Re: Cursor key navigation in tables

[Lin Sims]

The caveat here (as I just discovered) is that using those four Modify
lines apparently turns cursor key navigation in the regular text OFF.

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Heiko Haida i...@heiko-haida.de wrote:
 Hi Rick,

 I checked with my FM 8 and FM 9 installations - table navigation was OFF.

 Your suggestion is to add:

 Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right 
 Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left 
 Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up 
 Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down 

 In FM 8, I had a modification installed (Shlomo Perets' toolbar). I added
 these 4 lines to the existing custumui.cfg = table navigation via key
 arrows is now ON!

 In FM 9 there was no customui.cfg, so I created this file with these 4
 lines as the only content = table navigation is now ON!

 So everything's fine and working in these older FM-versions. Thank you!

 Best regards -

 Tino H. Haida, Berlin



 Hi Fred,



 I specifically tested the four I modified with FrameMaker 10 and they
 worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't test it with 9. Send me the modify
 sequences you tried and I will test them. It could be a problem specific to
 9, but maybe the syntax isn't exactly right. Thanks.



 Rick



 From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11 AM
 To: r...@rickquatro.com; syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com;
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 Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables



 Thanks Rick and Syed.

 In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg and
 tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to more
 convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed the
 KeySequence  definition, or added a Modify  command, those two MoveIP
 commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight both work,
 as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but not the two
 commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just have to use the
 move and select commands, because at least it's better than having to reach
 for the mouse every damn time.

 What's frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0,
 7.x and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when
 Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI on
 us with version 9.0. Sigh...

 I suppose I *should* report this bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it
 in the past has been an exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has
 taken me between one and two hours to accomplish something that should have
 taken 10-15 minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was
 moved to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug
 was that we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to
 work. Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent with
 how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker now behaved
 differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully designed procedures and
 processes no longer worked. I might have chalked it up to job security, but
 my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut down their operation here in
 New Jersey. But that's a story for another day...

 Thanks for your efforts, guys.

 Fred Ridder

 From: r...@rickquatro.com
 To: syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com;
 docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400

 Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and
 add
 these lines:

 Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right 
 Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left 
 Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up 
 Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down 


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RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Heidi Bailey]

Hi Rick,
I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, I 
have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you 
tell me which of the files in there is the right one:

Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...)
Mathcmds.cfg
Sample.cfg
Wincmds.cfg

Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?


Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a 
screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so it 
is a pain to have to reset this each time.
I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of 
setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames?

Thanks,
Heidi
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Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add
these lines:

Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right 
Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left 
Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up 
Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down 

Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using
the arrow keys.



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Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Lin Sims]

I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the fminit\configui folder
and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a different
email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer works in regular
text.

Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but with his death
it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe someone has a copy
they'd be willing to give you.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey hbai...@ocztechnology.com wrote:
 Hi Rick,
 I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, 
 I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can 
 you tell me which of the files in there is the right one:

 Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...)
 Mathcmds.cfg
 Sample.cfg
 Wincmds.cfg

 Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?


 Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
 Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a 
 screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so 
 it is a pain to have to reset this each time.
 I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of 
 setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames?

 Thanks,
 Heidi
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 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
 From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com
 To: 'Syed Zaeem Hosain' syed.hos...@aeris.net,  'Alison Craig'
 alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com,  'Fred Ridder' docu...@hotmail.com,
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 Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
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 Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add
 these lines:

 Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right 
 Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left 
 Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up 
 Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down 

 Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using
 the arrow keys.



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Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Mike Wickham]

I'm sure the folder name was just a typo on Rick's part. The folder is 
configui. Create a text file called customui.cfg to hold the commands.


The other files you mentioned can be edited, too, but it's best to put 
all your customizations in the customui.cfg file. FrameMaker reads it 
last, and overwrites definitions loaded from the other files. So if an 
entry doesn't work out, you can delete it and FrameMaker will return to 
default behavior without having to reenter the original values. It's 
much easier to test and make changes that way, and easier to move your 
customizations to future FM versions.


Mike Wickham

On 3/18/2013 8:40 AM, Heidi Bailey wrote:

Hi Rick,
I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, I 
have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you 
tell me which of the files in there is the right one:

Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...)
Mathcmds.cfg
Sample.cfg
Wincmds.cfg

Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?





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RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Heidi Bailey]

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: Harro de Jong [mailto:harro.dej...@triviewgroup.com]
Sent: 18 March 2013 13:50
To: Heidi Bailey
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame 
placement)

Heidi Bailey wrote:


 I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit
 folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no
 customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right 
 one:

 Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg
 Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg

 Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?

configui is the correct folder name. If customui.cfg doesn't exist, you can 
create it in this folder.


 Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
 Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place
 a screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames
 left-aligned, so it is a pain to have to reset this each time.
 I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some
 way of setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames?

No. I used to use QuicKeys to change this for all frames in a book, but sadly 
that isn't officially supported under Windows 7 anymore. Some people have got 
it to work though.

Harro de Jong
Triview

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RE: [JUNK] Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Heidi Bailey]

Oh, odd. I missed that - not helpful!
Thanks,
Heidi

-Original Message-
From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 March 2013 14:02
To: Heidi Bailey
Cc: r...@rickquatro.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [JUNK] Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing 
(graphic frame placement)
Importance: Low

I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the fminit\configui folder and it 
works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a different email, is that 
cursor navigation apparently no longer works in regular text.

Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but with his death it is, 
as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe someone has a copy they'd be 
willing to give you.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey hbai...@ocztechnology.com wrote:
 Hi Rick,
 I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, 
 I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can 
 you tell me which of the files in there is the right one:

 Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg
 Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg

 Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?


 Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
 Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a 
 screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so 
 it is a pain to have to reset this each time.
 I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of 
 setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames?

 Thanks,
 Heidi
 --

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 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
 From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com
 To: 'Syed Zaeem Hosain' syed.hos...@aeris.net,  'Alison Craig'
 alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com,  'Fred Ridder' docu...@hotmail.com,
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
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 Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

 Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor
 and add these lines:

 Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right  Modify
 MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left  Modify MoveIPToCellAbove
 KeySequence /Up  Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down 

 Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells
 using the arrow keys.



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RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Fred Ridder]

One solution to this is to define the KeySequence for navigation within a table 
to use one or more modifier keys (Shift, Ctrl, or Alt) in addition to the 
cursor keys. This change does not affect the function of the unmodified cursor 
keys in regular text. 

To specify a modifier key in a KeySequence string, just use a plus sign for 
Shift, a caret for Ctrl, or a tilde for Alt. The modifier key symbol(s) needs 
to appear at the start of the string with no space (i.e. immediately to the 
left of the slash). For example:
Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence ^/Down 
would define the keystroke combination for moving down a row in a table to be 
the Ctrl key plus the down arrow cursor key.

BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf 
that Adobe used to distribute in the Documentation directory of the FrameMaker 
installation. Unfortunately, this document was last updated for FrameMaker 7.0, 
and was no longer distributed with versions after 9.0.  I would hope that this 
file is still available somewhere on the Adobe website, but I suspect that may 
be over-optimistic. 

-Fred Ridder

 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:02:10 -0400
 Subject: Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic 
 frame placement)
 From: ljsims...@gmail.com
 To: hbai...@ocztechnology.com
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the fminit\configui folder
 and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a different
 email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer works in regular
 text.
 
 Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but with his death
 it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe someone has a copy
 they'd be willing to give you.
 
 On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey hbai...@ocztechnology.com 
 wrote:
  Hi Rick,
  I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit 
  folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg 
  file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right one:
 
  Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...)
  Mathcmds.cfg
  Sample.cfg
  Wincmds.cfg
 
  Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?
 
 
  Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
  Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a 
  screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, 
  so it is a pain to have to reset this each time.
  I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of 
  setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames?
 
  Thanks,
  Heidi
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  Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
  From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com
  To: 'Syed Zaeem Hosain' syed.hos...@aeris.net,  'Alison Craig'
  alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com,  'Fred Ridder' 
  docu...@hotmail.com,
  framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
  Message-ID: 001701ce21ea$9f464710$ddd2d530$@com
  Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii
 
  Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add
  these lines:
 
  Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right 
  Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left 
  Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up 
  Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down 
 
  Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using
  the arrow keys.



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RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Rick Quatro]

Klaus Daube has a bunch of good materials for later versions of FrameMaker.

http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker00.html

There is a link towards the bottom to Customising FrameMaker 11 (also valid
for FM-9 and 10). Klaus is very thorough and generous with his information.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
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r...@frameexpert.com




At 10:39 -0400 18/3/13, Fred Ridder wrote:

BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called
CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf that Adobe used to distribute in the
Documentation directory of the FrameMaker installation. Unfortunately, this
document was last updated for FrameMaker 7.0, and was no longer distributed
with versions after 9.0.  I would hope that this file is still available
somewhere on the Adobe website, but I suspect that may be over-optimistic.

I have a copy, but only the Mac version, which might not be the same.

Try this: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/8.0/customize_frame.pdf

-- 
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Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Shmuel Wolfson]

  
  
Good idea. 
  
  What are the symbols for the ALT, CTRL, SHIFT and Windows Key?
  
  Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

  
  On 18-Mar-13 4:39 PM, Fred Ridder wrote:


  
  
One solution to this is to define the KeySequence for navigation
within a table to use one or more modifier keys (Shift, Ctrl, or
Alt) in addition to the cursor keys. This change does not affect
the function of the unmodified cursor keys in regular text. 

To specify a modifier key in a KeySequence string, just use a
plus sign for Shift, a caret for Ctrl, or a tilde for Alt. The
modifier key symbol(s) needs to appear at the start of the
string with no space (i.e. immediately to the left of the
slash). For example:
Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence ^/Down 
would define the keystroke combination for moving down a row in
a table to be the Ctrl key plus the down arrow cursor key.

BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called
CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf that Adobe used to distribute in
the Documentation directory of the FrameMaker installation.
Unfortunately, this document was last updated for FrameMaker
7.0, and was no longer distributed with versions after 9.0. I
would hope that this file is still available somewhere on the
Adobe website, but I suspect that may be over-optimistic. 

-Fred Ridder

 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:02:10 -0400
   Subject: Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and
  another thing (graphic frame placement)
   From: ljsims...@gmail.com
   To: hbai...@ocztechnology.com
   CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
   
   I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the
  fminit\configui folder
   and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a
  different
   email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer
  works in regular
   text.
   
   Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but
  with his death
   it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe
  someone has a copy
   they'd be willing to give you.
   
   On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey
  hbai...@ocztechnology.com wrote:
Hi Rick,
I'd love to apply what you describe below. However,
  in my FM10 Fminit folder, I have a configui folder (no config
  folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of
  the files in there is the right one:
   
Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already
  mentioned...)
Mathcmds.cfg
Sample.cfg
Wincmds.cfg
   
Or do I need to create a config folder and a file
  called customui.cfg?
   
   
Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing
  Esc fif to place a screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need
  my graphic frames left-aligned, so it is a pain to have to
  reset this each time.
I hunted through the maker.ini file but found
  nothing. Is there some way of setting FM to always left-align
  new graphic frames?
   
Thanks,
Heidi
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
From: "Rick Quatro" r...@rickquatro.com
To: "'Syed Zaeem Hosain'"
  syed.hos...@aeris.net, "'Alison Craig'"
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com, "'Fred Ridder'"
  docu...@hotmail.com,
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
   
Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file
  in a text editor and add
these lines:
   
Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence
  /Right 
Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left
  
Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up
  
Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down
  
   
Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able
  to navigate cells using
the arrow keys.
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
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RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Fred Ridder]

Umm, I think I indicated that in my previous message. To designate modifier 
keys in a KeySequence string:
 - Shift key is +
 - Ctrl key is ^
 - Atl key is ~

AFAIK, FrameMaker does not support any use of the Windows key.

Note that when defining a KeySequence that uses a modifier key (or a 
combination of modifier keys), the modifier key(s) and the key that follows are 
pressed *in combination* rather than as a sequence of separate keystrokes. 
(Most existing KeySequence definitions start with the Esc key, which is denoted 
by \!, followed by several case-sensitive letters that are pressed in sequence.)

-Fred Ridder

Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:25:53 +0200
From: shmue...@gmail.com
To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame 
placement)


  

  
  
Good idea. 

  

  What are the symbols for the ALT, CTRL, SHIFT and Windows Key?

  

  Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

  

  On 18-Mar-13 4:39 PM, Fred Ridder wrote:



  
  
One solution to this is to define the KeySequence for navigation
within a table to use one or more modifier keys (Shift, Ctrl, or
Alt) in addition to the cursor keys. This change does not affect
the function of the unmodified cursor keys in regular text. 



To specify a modifier key in a KeySequence string, just use a
plus sign for Shift, a caret for Ctrl, or a tilde for Alt. The
modifier key symbol(s) needs to appear at the start of the
string with no space (i.e. immediately to the left of the
slash). For example:

Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence ^/Down 

would define the keystroke combination for moving down a row in
a table to be the Ctrl key plus the down arrow cursor key.



BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called
CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf that Adobe used to distribute in
the Documentation directory of the FrameMaker installation.
Unfortunately, this document was last updated for FrameMaker
7.0, and was no longer distributed with versions after 9.0.  I
would hope that this file is still available somewhere on the
Adobe website, but I suspect that may be over-optimistic. 



-Fred Ridder



 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:02:10 -0400

   Subject: Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and
  another thing (graphic frame placement)

   From: ljsims...@gmail.com

   To: hbai...@ocztechnology.com

   CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com

   

   I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the
  fminit\configui folder

   and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a
  different

   email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer
  works in regular

   text.

   

   Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but
  with his death

   it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe
  someone has a copy

   they'd be willing to give you.

   

   On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey
  hbai...@ocztechnology.com wrote:

Hi Rick,

I'd love to apply what you describe below. However,
  in my FM10 Fminit folder, I have a configui folder (no config
  folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of
  the files in there is the right one:

   

Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already
  mentioned...)

Mathcmds.cfg

Sample.cfg

Wincmds.cfg

   

Or do I need to create a config folder and a file
  called customui.cfg?

   

   

Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:

Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing
  Esc fif to place a screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need
  my graphic frames left-aligned, so it is a pain to have to
  reset this each time.

I hunted through the maker.ini file but found
  nothing. Is there some way of setting FM to always left-align
  new graphic frames?

   

Thanks,

Heidi

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Message: 11

Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400

From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com

To: 'Syed Zaeem Hosain'
  syed.hos...@aeris.net, 'Alison Craig'

alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com, 'Fred Ridder'
  docu...@hotmail.com,

framers@lists.frameusers.com

Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables

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  001701ce21ea$9f464710$ddd2d530$@com

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RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Combs, Richard]

Fred Ridder wrote:
 
 Umm, I think I indicated that in my previous message. To designate modifier
 keys in a KeySequence string:
  - Shift key is +
  - Ctrl key is ^
  - Atl key is ~
 
 AFAIK, FrameMaker does not support any use of the Windows key.

I don't know of any way to specify the Windows logo key in a KeySequence, but 
you can use /Apps to specify the Application key. For instance, my FM 7.2 
customui.cfg file (based on the original MicroType customization kit) contains 
the following shortcuts for table navigation: 

Modify MoveIPToColumnTop  KeySequence /Apps /Home 
Modify MoveIPToColumnBottom   KeySequence /Apps /End 
Modify MoveIPToPreviousCell   KeySequence /Apps /Left 
Modify MoveIPToNextCell   KeySequence /Apps /Right 
Modify MoveIPToCellAbove  KeySequence /Apps /Up 
Modify MoveIPToCellBelow  KeySequence /Apps /Down 

Note that the Application key and the key that follows are pressed in sequence 
(as indicated by the space between them). (Actually, it works if you hold the 
Application key while pressing the following key, but then you have to release 
the Application key and press it again before you can repeat the action.)

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Mike Wickham]

Find the file here:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker/online_manuals.html

This link also has a lot of FrameMaker info:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker.html

Mike Wickham

On 3/18/2013 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder wrote:
BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called 
CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf that Adobe used to distribute in the 
Documentation directory of the FrameMaker installation. Unfortunately, 
this document was last updated for FrameMaker 7.0, and was no longer 
distributed with versions after 9.0.  I would hope that this file is 
still available somewhere on the Adobe website, but I suspect that may 
be over-optimistic.


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RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

The sequence posted by Rick, and modified by Fred, worked for me in FrameMaker 
11 ... I decided to use the Alt key sequence that Fred outlined, because 
CTRL-arrow and shift-arrow has other cursor positioning purposes that I use in 
FrameMaker a lot.

My thanks to Rick, Fred and Richard (and others) who made this thread be the 
_most_ useful one of this year for me! :)

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Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Framers,

I have a FrameMaker 10 document that uses a custom TTF symbols font. The
symbols display fine in my FrameMaker document. When I Save As PDF, the
symbols become squares in the PDF. If I choose the Adobe PDF printer in
FrameMaker, make a .ps file and Distill it, the symbols come through fine. I
am using Distiller X. Any idea why the output would be different using Save
As versus .ps/Distill? Thanks in advance.

Rick

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RE: Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Robert,

I did select the Adobe PDF printer first, but still have the output problem.

Rick

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:47 PM
To: Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS
and distill

Before you saved as PDF, did you forget to select the Adobe PDF printer?

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 Hi Framers,

 I have a FrameMaker 10 document that uses a custom TTF symbols font. 
 The symbols display fine in my FrameMaker document. When I Save As 
 PDF, the symbols become squares in the PDF. ...

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Manually inserted xref markers don't work as expected

[Steve Rickaby]

It seems that cross-reference marker text has to be unique. 

Here's what I'm doing:

. In one document, manually inserting several xref markers, using the same 
marker text each time.

. Cross-referencing them from another document as page refs. 

All works as expected (i.e. the page refs show the expected page numbers) until 
I update the xrefs, at which point all the page refs default to the first page 
that contains any of the xref markers, i.e. to the first match of the marker 
text.

Looks like FrameMaker searches it's xref marker list unit the first one is 
found. Set them to use different text: it worked. 

I suppose this is consistent with the way in which FrameMaker handles other 
marker types.

Just proves that you learn something every day - if you aren't careful.

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RE: Manually inserted xref markers don't work as expected

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Steve,

Yes, Cross-Ref marker text must be unique within a document. Otherwise, how
would a particular Cross-Reference to that marker know which occurrence to
point to?

If you select a paragraph that contains a Cross-Ref marker and cut it and
paste it somewhere else in the document, the marker will be in the pasted
paragraph. But if you copy the paragraph and paste the copy somewhere else,
the Cross-Ref marker will not be in the pasted paragraph. FrameMaker does
not want to make a duplicate marker so it helps you out by not pasting the
marker.

Rick

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Subject: Manually inserted xref markers don't work as expected

It seems that cross-reference marker text has to be unique. 

Here's what I'm doing:

. In one document, manually inserting several xref markers, using the same
marker text each time.

. Cross-referencing them from another document as page refs. 

All works as expected (i.e. the page refs show the expected page numbers)
until I update the xrefs, at which point all the page refs default to the
first page that contains any of the xref markers, i.e. to the first match of
the marker text.

Looks like FrameMaker searches it's xref marker list unit the first one is
found. Set them to use different text: it worked. 

I suppose this is consistent with the way in which FrameMaker handles other
marker types.

Just proves that you learn something every day - if you aren't careful.

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RE: Manually inserted xref markers don't work as expected

[Steve Rickaby]

At 15:25 -0400 18/3/13, Rick Quatro wrote:

Yes, Cross-Ref marker text must be unique within a document. Otherwise, how
would a particular Cross-Reference to that marker know which occurrence to
point to?

If you select a paragraph that contains a Cross-Ref marker and cut it and
paste it somewhere else in the document, the marker will be in the pasted
paragraph. But if you copy the paragraph and paste the copy somewhere else,
the Cross-Ref marker will not be in the pasted paragraph. FrameMaker does
not want to make a duplicate marker so it helps you out by not pasting the
marker.

Amazing. After more than two decades, I am still nonplussed by the grace and 
elegance of this application (post-v8 GUIs notwithstanding).

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ANN: March 20th webinar on FrameMaker features for Word users: graphic objects in catalogs

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RE: What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

[Harro de Jong]

John Posada wrote
 
 I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has a TOC
 and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the 
 pagination
 starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also conceivable that I'll 
 eventually
 have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.
 
 Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the Index at 
 the
 end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?


Are both volumes in a single .book file? Or do you have separate .books for 
each volume? 

If it's one book: 
1. create the TOC and place it in Volume 1.
2. create an empty file where the TOC for volume 2 should go.
3. In this empty file, place the Volume 1 TOC as a text inset. 

If it's two books:
1. create a third book that contains both volumes. Make sure the page numbering 
settings are consistent with your volumes.. 
2. add a TOC to this book and generate it.
3. take this TOC and add it to both volumes as an ordinary (non-generated) FM 
file. 

In both cases, you may have to update the book multiple times until all the 
page numbers are correct. 


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RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Harro de Jong]

Heidi Bailey wrote:


 I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, 
 I
 have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you 
 tell me
 which of the files in there is the right one:
 
 Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg
 Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg
 
 Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?

configui is the correct folder name. If customui.cfg doesn't exist, you can 
create it in this folder. 


 Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
 Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a
 screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so 
 it is a
 pain to have to reset this each time.
 I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of 
 setting
 FM to always left-align new graphic frames?

No. I used to use QuicKeys to change this for all frames in a book, but sadly 
that isn't officially supported under Windows 7 anymore. Some people have got 
it to work though. 

Harro de Jong
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Re: What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

[Robert Lauriston]

You could have a third book including all non-generated files from
both books and incorporate its TOC and index by reference in the two
real books.

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:53 PM,  john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:
 Hi, guys...

 I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has a
 TOC and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the
 pagination starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also
 conceivable that I'll eventually have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.

 Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the Index
 at the end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?
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RE: Cursor key navigation in tables

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi all, 

I checked with alt-key + shift-key + arrow-keys, that
would work (alt/shift+arrow does not seem to have another function when
the cursor is placed in the text). 

Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight
KeySequence ~+/Right 
Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence ~+/Left

Modify MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence ~+/Up 
Modify
MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence ~+/Down  

Best regards - 

Tino H.
Haida, Berlin 

 Hi Rick, 
 
 I checked with my FM 8 and FM 9
installations - table navigation was OFF. 
 
 Your suggestion is to
add: 
 
 Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right 
 Modify
MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left 
 Modify MoveIPToCellAbove
KeySequence /Up 
 Modify MoveIPToCellBelow KeySequence /Down  


 In FM 8, I had a modification installed (Shlomo Perets' toolbar). I
added these 4 lines to the existing custumui.cfg = table navigation
via key arrows is now ON! 
 
 In FM 9 there was no customui.cfg, so
I created this file with these 4 lines as the only content = table
navigation is now ON! 
 
 So everything's fine and working in these
older FM-versions. Thank you! 
 
 Best regards - 
 
 Tino H. Haida,
Berlin 
 
 Hi Fred, 
 
 I specifically tested the four I modified
with FrameMaker 10 and they worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't
test it with 9. Send me the modify sequences you tried and I will test
them. It could be a problem specific to 9, but maybe the syntax isn't
exactly right. Thanks. 
 
 Rick 
 
 FROM: Fred Ridder
[mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
 SENT: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11
AM
 TO: r...@rickquatro.com; syed.hos...@aeris.net;
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 SUBJECT:
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables 
 
 Thanks Rick and Syed.
 

In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg
and tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to
more convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed
the KeySequence  definition, or added a Modify  command, those two
MoveIP commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight
both work, as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but
not the two commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just
have to use the move and select commands, because at least it's better
than having to reach for the mouse every damn time.
 
 What's
frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0, 7.x
and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when
Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI
on us with version 9.0. Sigh...
 
 I suppose I *should* report this
bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it in the past has been an
exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has taken me between one
and two hours to accomplish something that should have taken 10-15
minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was moved
to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug was
that we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to
work. Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent
with how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker
now behaved differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully
designed procedures and processes no longer worked. I might have chalked
it up to job security, but my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut
down their operation here in New Jersey. But that's a story for another
day...
 
 Thanks for your efforts, guys.
 
 Fred Ridder 
 

From: r...@rickquatro.com
 To: syed.hos...@aeris.net;
alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; docu...@hotmail.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in
tables
 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
 
 Open the
FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add

these lines:
 
 Modify MoveIPToCellAtRight KeySequence /Right

 Modify MoveIPToCellAtLeft KeySequence /Left 
 Modify
MoveIPToCellAbove KeySequence /Up 
 Modify MoveIPToCellBelow
KeySequence /Down 

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Re: Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Robert Lauriston]

Before you saved as PDF, did you forget to select the Adobe PDF printer?

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[Lin Sims]

The caveat here (as I just discovered) is that using those four Modify
lines apparently turns cursor key navigation in the regular text OFF.

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Heiko Haida  wrote:
> Hi Rick,
>
> I checked with my FM 8 and FM 9 installations - table navigation was "OFF".
>
> Your suggestion is to add:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> In FM 8, I had a modification installed (Shlomo Perets' toolbar). I added
> these 4 lines to the existing "custumui.cfg" => table navigation via key
> arrows is now ON!
>
> In FM 9 there was no "customui.cfg", so I created this file with these 4
> lines as the only content => table navigation is now ON!
>
> So everything's fine and working in these older FM-versions. Thank you!
>
> Best regards -
>
> Tino H. Haida, Berlin
>
>
>
> Hi Fred,
>
>
>
> I specifically tested the four I modified with FrameMaker 10 and they
> worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't test it with 9. Send me the modify
> sequences you tried and I will test them. It could be a problem specific to
> 9, but maybe the syntax isn't exactly right. Thanks.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11 AM
> To: rick at rickquatro.com; syed.hosain at aeris.net; alison.craig at 
> ultrasonix.com;
> framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
>
>
>
> Thanks Rick and Syed.
>
> In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg and
> tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to more
> convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed the
>  definition, or added a  command, those two MoveIP
> commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight both work,
> as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but not the two
> commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just have to use the
> move and select commands, because at least it's better than having to reach
> for the mouse every damn time.
>
> What's frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0,
> 7.x and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when
> Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI on
> us with version 9.0. Sigh...
>
> I suppose I *should* report this bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it
> in the past has been an exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has
> taken me between one and two hours to accomplish something that should have
> taken 10-15 minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was
> moved to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug
> was that "we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to
> work". Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent with
> how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker now behaved
> differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully designed procedures and
> processes no longer worked. I might have chalked it up to job security, but
> my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut down their operation here in
> New Jersey. But that's a story for another day...
>
> Thanks for your efforts, guys.
>
> Fred Ridder
>
>> From: rick at rickquatro.com
>> To: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net; Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com;
>> docudoc at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
>> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
>>
>> Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and
>> add
>> these lines:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
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Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Heidi Bailey]

Hi Rick,
I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, I 
have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you 
tell me which of the files in there is the right one:

Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...)
Mathcmds.cfg
Sample.cfg
Wincmds.cfg

Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?


Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a 
screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so it 
is a pain to have to reset this each time.
I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of 
setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames?

Thanks,
Heidi
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
From: "Rick Quatro" 
To: "'Syed Zaeem Hosain'" ,  "'Alison Craig'"
,  "'Fred Ridder'" ,

Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
Message-ID: <001701ce21ea$9f464710$ddd2d530$@com>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add
these lines:

>
>
>
>

Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using
the arrow keys.



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Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Lin Sims]

I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the fminit\configui folder
and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a different
email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer works in regular
text.

Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but with his death
it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe someone has a copy
they'd be willing to give you.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey  
wrote:
> Hi Rick,
> I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, 
> I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can 
> you tell me which of the files in there is the right one:
>
> Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...)
> Mathcmds.cfg
> Sample.cfg
> Wincmds.cfg
>
> Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?
>
>
> Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
> Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a 
> screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so 
> it is a pain to have to reset this each time.
> I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of 
> setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames?
>
> Thanks,
> Heidi
> --
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
> From: "Rick Quatro" 
> To: "'Syed Zaeem Hosain'" ,  "'Alison Craig'"
> ,  "'Fred Ridder'"  hotmail.com>,
> 
> Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
> Message-ID: <001701ce21ea$9f464710$ddd2d530$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"
>
> Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add
> these lines:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using
> the arrow keys.
>
>
>
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Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Mike Wickham]

I'm sure the folder name was just a typo on Rick's part. The folder is 
configui. Create a text file called customui.cfg to hold the commands.

The other files you mentioned can be edited, too, but it's best to put 
all your customizations in the customui.cfg file. FrameMaker reads it 
last, and overwrites definitions loaded from the other files. So if an 
entry doesn't work out, you can delete it and FrameMaker will return to 
default behavior without having to reenter the original values. It's 
much easier to test and make changes that way, and easier to move your 
customizations to future FM versions.

Mike Wickham

On 3/18/2013 8:40 AM, Heidi Bailey wrote:
> Hi Rick,
> I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, 
> I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can 
> you tell me which of the files in there is the right one:
>
> Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...)
> Mathcmds.cfg
> Sample.cfg
> Wincmds.cfg
>
> Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?
>
>

Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Heidi Bailey]

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: Harro de Jong [mailto:harro.dej...@triviewgroup.com]
Sent: 18 March 2013 13:50
To: Heidi Bailey
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame 
placement)

Heidi Bailey wrote:


> I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit
> folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no
> customui.cfg file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right 
> one:
>
> Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg
> Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg
>
> Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?

configui is the correct folder name. If customui.cfg doesn't exist, you can 
create it in this folder.


> Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
> Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place
> a screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames
> left-aligned, so it is a pain to have to reset this each time.
> I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some
> way of setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames?

No. I used to use QuicKeys to change this for all frames in a book, but sadly 
that isn't officially supported under Windows 7 anymore. Some people have got 
it to work though.

Harro de Jong
Triview

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[JUNK] Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Heidi Bailey]

Oh, odd. I missed that - not helpful!
Thanks,
Heidi

-Original Message-
From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 March 2013 14:02
To: Heidi Bailey
Cc: rick at rickquatro.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [JUNK] Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing 
(graphic frame placement)
Importance: Low

I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the fminit\configui folder and it 
works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a different email, is that 
cursor navigation apparently no longer works in regular text.

Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but with his death it is, 
as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe someone has a copy they'd be 
willing to give you.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey  
wrote:
> Hi Rick,
> I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, 
> I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can 
> you tell me which of the files in there is the right one:
>
> Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg
> Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg
>
> Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?
>
>
> Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
> Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a 
> screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so 
> it is a pain to have to reset this each time.
> I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of 
> setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames?
>
> Thanks,
> Heidi
> --
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
> From: "Rick Quatro" 
> To: "'Syed Zaeem Hosain'" ,  "'Alison Craig'"
> ,  "'Fred Ridder'"  hotmail.com>,
> 
> Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
> Message-ID: <001701ce21ea$9f464710$ddd2d530$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"
>
> Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor
> and add these lines:
>
> >  MoveIPToCellAtLeft >  > >
>
> Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells
> using the arrow keys.
>
>
>
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Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Fred Ridder]

One solution to this is to define the KeySequence for navigation within a table 
to use one or more modifier keys (Shift, Ctrl, or Alt) in addition to the 
cursor keys. This change does not affect the function of the unmodified cursor 
keys in regular text. 

To specify a modifier key in a KeySequence string, just use a plus sign for 
Shift, a caret for Ctrl, or a tilde for Alt. The modifier key symbol(s) needs 
to appear at the start of the string with no space (i.e. immediately to the 
left of the slash). For example:
>
would define the keystroke combination for moving down a row in a table to be 
the Ctrl key plus the down arrow cursor key.

BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf 
that Adobe used to distribute in the Documentation directory of the FrameMaker 
installation. Unfortunately, this document was last updated for FrameMaker 7.0, 
and was no longer distributed with versions after 9.0.  I would hope that this 
file is still available somewhere on the Adobe website, but I suspect that may 
be over-optimistic. 

-Fred Ridder

> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:02:10 -0400
> Subject: Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic 
> frame placement)
> From: ljsims.ml at gmail.com
> To: hbailey at ocztechnology.com
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the fminit\configui folder
> and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a different
> email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer works in regular
> text.
> 
> Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but with his death
> it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe someone has a copy
> they'd be willing to give you.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey  
> wrote:
> > Hi Rick,
> > I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit 
> > folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg 
> > file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right one:
> >
> > Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...)
> > Mathcmds.cfg
> > Sample.cfg
> > Wincmds.cfg
> >
> > Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?
> >
> >
> > Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
> > Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a 
> > screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, 
> > so it is a pain to have to reset this each time.
> > I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of 
> > setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Heidi
> > --
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
> > From: "Rick Quatro" 
> > To: "'Syed Zaeem Hosain'" ,  "'Alison Craig'"
> > ,  "'Fred Ridder'"  > hotmail.com>,
> > 
> > Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
> > Message-ID: <001701ce21ea$9f464710$ddd2d530$@com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add
> > these lines:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using
> > the arrow keys.




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[Heidi Bailey]

Thanks, I'll try this!
Cheers,
Heidi


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From: Fred Ridder [docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: 18 March 2013 14:39
To: ljsims.ml at gmail.com; Heidi Bailey
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame 
placement)

One solution to this is to define the KeySequence for navigation within a table 
to use one or more modifier keys (Shift, Ctrl, or Alt) in addition to the 
cursor keys. This change does not affect the function of the unmodified cursor 
keys in regular text.

To specify a modifier key in a KeySequence string, just use a plus sign for 
Shift, a caret for Ctrl, or a tilde for Alt. The modifier key symbol(s) needs 
to appear at the start of the string with no space (i.e. immediately to the 
left of the slash). For example:
>
would define the keystroke combination for moving down a row in a table to be 
the Ctrl key plus the down arrow cursor key.

BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf 
that Adobe used to distribute in the Documentation directory of the FrameMaker 
installation. Unfortunately, this document was last updated for FrameMaker 7.0, 
and was no longer distributed with versions after 9.0.  I would hope that this 
file is still available somewhere on the Adobe website, but I suspect that may 
be over-optimistic.

-Fred Ridder

> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:02:10 -0400
> Subject: Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic 
> frame placement)
> From: ljsims.ml at gmail.com
> To: hbailey at ocztechnology.com
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the fminit\configui folder
> and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a different
> email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer works in regular
> text.
>
> Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but with his death
> it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe someone has a copy
> they'd be willing to give you.
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey  
> wrote:
> > Hi Rick,
> > I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit 
> > folder, I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg 
> > file. Can you tell me which of the files in there is the right one:
> >
> > Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...)
> > Mathcmds.cfg
> > Sample.cfg
> > Wincmds.cfg
> >
> > Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?
> >
> >
> > Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
> > Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a 
> > screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, 
> > so it is a pain to have to reset this each time.
> > I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of 
> > setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Heidi
> > --
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
> > From: "Rick Quatro" 
> > To: "'Syed Zaeem Hosain'" , "'Alison Craig'"
> > , "'Fred Ridder'" ,
> > 
> > Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add
> > these lines:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using
> > the arrow keys.





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Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi Heidi,

Do you just import the file into an anchored frame?

You can also use a dedicated table with a single cell and without
borders. The width should be that of your text column. Use a
special paragraph format, e.g. figure in this table cell to hold the
anchored frame. Press ESC m p to shrinkwrap the anchored frame to
the size of the graphic. Then the anchored frame will be set to "At
Insertion Point". If you set the alignment of your figure paragraph
format to Left, all your anchored frames will be left aligned.
Additionally a table has a table title which you can use as figure title.
Very convenient to control.

Best regards

Winfried

> Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
> Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a
> screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so
> it is a pain to have to reset this each time.
> I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of
> setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames?
>
> Thanks,
> Heidi



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Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Steve Rickaby]

At 10:39 -0400 18/3/13, Fred Ridder wrote:

>BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf 
>that Adobe used to distribute in the Documentation directory of the FrameMaker 
>installation. Unfortunately, this document was last updated for FrameMaker 
>7.0, and was no longer distributed with versions after 9.0.  I would hope that 
>this file is still available somewhere on the Adobe website, but I suspect 
>that may be over-optimistic.

I have a copy, but only the Mac version, which might not be the same.

Try this: 

-- 
Steve

Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Rick Quatro]

Klaus Daube has a bunch of good materials for later versions of FrameMaker.

http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker00.html

There is a link towards the bottom to Customising FrameMaker 11 (also valid
for FM-9 and 10). Klaus is very thorough and generous with his information.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com




At 10:39 -0400 18/3/13, Fred Ridder wrote:

>BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called
CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf that Adobe used to distribute in the
Documentation directory of the FrameMaker installation. Unfortunately, this
document was last updated for FrameMaker 7.0, and was no longer distributed
with versions after 9.0.  I would hope that this file is still available
somewhere on the Adobe website, but I suspect that may be over-optimistic.

I have a copy, but only the Mac version, which might not be the same.

Try this: 

-- 
Steve

Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Shmuel Wolfson]

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[Fred Ridder]

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  > >

  > > Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file
  in a text editor and add

  > > these lines:

  > >

  > > >

  > > >

  > > >

  > > >

  > >

  > > Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able
  to navigate cells using

  > > the arrow keys.














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Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Combs, Richard]

Fred Ridder wrote:

> Umm, I think I indicated that in my previous message. To designate modifier
> keys in a KeySequence string:
> ?- Shift key is +
> ?- Ctrl key is ^
> ?- Atl key is ~
> 
> AFAIK, FrameMaker does not support any use of the Windows key.

I don't know of any way to specify the Windows logo key in a KeySequence, but 
you can use "/Apps" to specify the Application key. For instance, my FM 7.2 
customui.cfg file (based on the original MicroType customization kit) contains 
the following shortcuts for table navigation: 

>
>
>
>
>
>

Note that the Application key and the key that follows are pressed in sequence 
(as indicated by the space between them). (Actually, it works if you hold the 
Application key while pressing the following key, but then you have to release 
the Application key and press it again before you can repeat the action.)

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Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Mike Wickham]

Find the file here:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker/online_manuals.html

This link also has a lot of FrameMaker info:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker.html

Mike Wickham

On 3/18/2013 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder wrote:
> BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called 
> CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf that Adobe used to distribute in the 
> Documentation directory of the FrameMaker installation. Unfortunately, 
> this document was last updated for FrameMaker 7.0, and was no longer 
> distributed with versions after 9.0.  I would hope that this file is 
> still available somewhere on the Adobe website, but I suspect that may 
> be over-optimistic.
>
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[Matt Sullivan]

Here's the documentation link I referred to in my book:
http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/framemaker/

It has a few dozen manuals and reference PDF's, and appears to contain files 
not in the other 2 links

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
P: 714.960.6840 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On Mar 18, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Mike Wickham  wrote:

> Find the file here:
> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker/online_manuals.html
> 
> This link also has a lot of FrameMaker info:
> http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker.html
> 
> Mike Wickham
> 
> On 3/18/2013 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder wrote:
>> BTW, all of this is documented in a PDF called CustomizingfFrameProducts.pdf 
>> that Adobe used to distribute in the Documentation directory of the 
>> FrameMaker installation. Unfortunately, this document was last updated for 
>> FrameMaker 7.0, and was no longer distributed with versions after 9.0.  I 
>> would hope that this file is still available somewhere on the Adobe website, 
>> but I suspect that may be over-optimistic. 
>> 
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Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

The sequence posted by Rick, and modified by Fred, worked for me in FrameMaker 
11 ... I decided to use the Alt key sequence that Fred outlined, because 
CTRL-arrow and shift-arrow has other cursor positioning purposes that I use in 
FrameMaker a lot.

My thanks to Rick, Fred and Richard (and others) who made this thread be the 
_most_ useful one of this year for me! :)

Z

Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Framers,

I have a FrameMaker 10 document that uses a custom TTF symbols font. The
symbols display fine in my FrameMaker document. When I Save As PDF, the
symbols become squares in the PDF. If I choose the Adobe PDF printer in
FrameMaker, make a .ps file and Distill it, the symbols come through fine. I
am using Distiller X. Any idea why the output would be different using Save
As versus .ps/Distill? Thanks in advance.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com

Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Robert,

I did select the Adobe PDF printer first, but still have the output problem.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 2:47 PM
To: Rick Quatro; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS
and distill

Before you saved as PDF, did you forget to select the Adobe PDF printer?

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro  wrote:
> Hi Framers,
>
> I have a FrameMaker 10 document that uses a custom TTF symbols font. 
> The symbols display fine in my FrameMaker document. When I Save As 
> PDF, the symbols become squares in the PDF. ...

Manually inserted xref markers don't work as expected

[Steve Rickaby]

It seems that cross-reference marker text has to be unique. 

Here's what I'm doing:

. In one document, manually inserting several xref markers, using the same 
marker text each time.

. Cross-referencing them from another document as page refs. 

All works as expected (i.e. the page refs show the expected page numbers) until 
I update the xrefs, at which point all the page refs default to the first page 
that contains any of the xref markers, i.e. to the first match of the marker 
text.

Looks like FrameMaker searches it's xref marker list unit the first one is 
found. Set them to use different text: it worked. 

I suppose this is consistent with the way in which FrameMaker handles other 
marker types.

Just proves that you learn something every day - if you aren't careful.

-- 
Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet]

Manually inserted xref markers don't work as expected

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Steve,

Yes, Cross-Ref marker text must be unique within a document. Otherwise, how
would a particular Cross-Reference to that marker know which occurrence to
point to?

If you select a paragraph that contains a Cross-Ref marker and cut it and
paste it somewhere else in the document, the marker will be in the pasted
paragraph. But if you copy the paragraph and paste the copy somewhere else,
the Cross-Ref marker will not be in the pasted paragraph. FrameMaker does
not want to make a duplicate marker so it "helps you out" by not pasting the
marker.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com



-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 3:17 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Manually inserted xref markers don't work as expected

It seems that cross-reference marker text has to be unique. 

Here's what I'm doing:

. In one document, manually inserting several xref markers, using the same
marker text each time.

. Cross-referencing them from another document as page refs. 

All works as expected (i.e. the page refs show the expected page numbers)
until I update the xrefs, at which point all the page refs default to the
first page that contains any of the xref markers, i.e. to the first match of
the marker text.

Looks like FrameMaker searches it's xref marker list unit the first one is
found. Set them to use different text: it worked. 

I suppose this is consistent with the way in which FrameMaker handles other
marker types.

Just proves that you learn something every day - if you aren't careful.

--
Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet]
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Manually inserted xref markers don't work as expected

[Steve Rickaby]

At 15:25 -0400 18/3/13, Rick Quatro wrote:

>Yes, Cross-Ref marker text must be unique within a document. Otherwise, how
>would a particular Cross-Reference to that marker know which occurrence to
>point to?
>
>If you select a paragraph that contains a Cross-Ref marker and cut it and
>paste it somewhere else in the document, the marker will be in the pasted
>paragraph. But if you copy the paragraph and paste the copy somewhere else,
>the Cross-Ref marker will not be in the pasted paragraph. FrameMaker does
>not want to make a duplicate marker so it "helps you out" by not pasting the
>marker.

Amazing. After more than two decades, I am still nonplussed by the grace and 
elegance of this application (post-v8 GUIs notwithstanding).

-- 
Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet]

What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

[Harro de Jong]

John Posada wrote
> 
> I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has a TOC
> and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the 
> pagination
> starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also conceivable that I'll 
> eventually
> have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.
> 
> Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the Index at 
> the
> end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?


Are both volumes in a single .book file? Or do you have separate .books for 
each volume? 

If it's one book: 
1. create the TOC and place it in Volume 1.
2. create an empty file where the TOC for volume 2 should go.
3. In this empty file, place the Volume 1 TOC as a text inset. 

If it's two books:
1. create a third book that contains both volumes. Make sure the page numbering 
settings are consistent with your volumes.. 
2. add a TOC to this book and generate it.
3. take this TOC and add it to both volumes as an ordinary (non-generated) FM 
file. 

In both cases, you may have to update the book multiple times until all the 
page numbers are correct. 


Harro de Jong
Triview

Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)

[Harro de Jong]

Heidi Bailey wrote:


> I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, 
> I
> have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can you 
> tell me
> which of the files in there is the right one:
> 
> Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) Mathcmds.cfg
> Sample.cfg Wincmds.cfg
> 
> Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg?

configui is the correct folder name. If customui.cfg doesn't exist, you can 
create it in this folder. 


> Oh, and while I'm emailing the list:
> Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a
> screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so 
> it is a
> pain to have to reset this each time.
> I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of 
> setting
> FM to always left-align new graphic frames?

No. I used to use QuicKeys to change this for all frames in a book, but sadly 
that isn't officially supported under Windows 7 anymore. Some people have got 
it to work though. 

Harro de Jong
Triview

What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

[Robert Lauriston]

You could have a third book including all non-generated files from
both books and incorporate its TOC and index by reference in the two
real books.

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:53 PM,   wrote:
> Hi, guys...
>
> I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has a
> TOC and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the
> pagination starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also
> conceivable that I'll eventually have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.
>
> Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the Index
> at the end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?

Cursor key navigation in tables

[Heiko Haida]

Hi all, 

I checked with "alt-key + shift-key + arrow-keys", that
would work (alt/shift+arrow does not seem to have another function when
the cursor is placed in the text). 

>
>
>
> 

Best regards - 

Tino H.
Haida, Berlin 

> Hi Rick, 
> 
> I checked with my FM 8 and FM 9
installations - table navigation was "OFF". 
> 
> Your suggestion is to
add: 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > 
>

> In FM 8, I had a modification installed (Shlomo Perets' toolbar). I
added these 4 lines to the existing "custumui.cfg" => table navigation
via key arrows is now ON! 
> 
> In FM 9 there was no "customui.cfg", so
I created this file with these 4 lines as the only content => table
navigation is now ON! 
> 
> So everything's fine and working in these
older FM-versions. Thank you! 
> 
> Best regards - 
> 
> Tino H. Haida,
Berlin 
> 
>> Hi Fred, 
>> 
>> I specifically tested the four I modified
with FrameMaker 10 and they worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't
test it with 9. Send me the modify sequences you tried and I will test
them. It could be a problem specific to 9, but maybe the syntax isn't
exactly right. Thanks. 
>> 
>> Rick 
>> 
>> FROM: Fred Ridder
[mailto:docudoc at hotmail.com] 
>> SENT: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11
AM
>> TO: rick at rickquatro.com; syed.hosain at aeris.net;
alison.craig at ultrasonix.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> SUBJECT:
RE: Cursor key navigation in tables 
>> 
>> Thanks Rick and Syed.
>> 
>>
In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg
and tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to
more convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed
the  definition, or added a  command, those two
MoveIP commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight
both work, as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but
not the two commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just
have to use the move and select commands, because at least it's better
than having to reach for the mouse every damn time.
>> 
>> What's
frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0, 7.x
and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when
Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI
on us with version 9.0. Sigh...
>> 
>> I suppose I *should* report this
bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it in the past has been an
exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has taken me between one
and two hours to accomplish something that should have taken 10-15
minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was moved
to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug was
that "we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to
work". Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent
with how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker
now behaved differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully
designed procedures and processes no longer worked. I might have chalked
it up to job security, but my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut
down their operation here in New Jersey. But that's a story for another
day...
>> 
>> Thanks for your efforts, guys.
>> 
>> Fred Ridder 
>> 
>>>
From: r...@rickquatro.com
>>> To: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net;
Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com; docudoc at hotmail.com;
framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>> Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in
tables
>>> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400
>>> 
>>> Open the
FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add
>>>
these lines:
>>> 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >

-- 


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Br?sseler Str.
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Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Robert Lauriston]

Before you saved as PDF, did you forget to select the Adobe PDF printer?

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro  wrote:
> Hi Framers,
>
> I have a FrameMaker 10 document that uses a custom TTF symbols font. The
> symbols display fine in my FrameMaker document. When I Save As PDF, the
> symbols become squares in the PDF. ...

What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

[David Artman]

In Structured FrameMaker:

* Put all the files in one "super book"
* Set the Pagination and Numbering settings, particularly the Volume
settings
* Generate a single TOC and Index for the super book
* Place TOC and Index in both sub-books
* Print to PDF
* Split into separate PDFs in Acrobat

You'll probably want to money with the Index specification, as
multi-book indexing references can be... trying.

This will work in any version of FrameMaker that supports Volume naming
and numbering (7.0+, IIRC).

The Structured method is totally different (and I only know IBMIDDOC's
method, not DITA/FM-XML).

HTH;
David

 Original Message 
Subject: What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple
places of a book?
From: john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
Date: Thu, March 14, 2013 3:53 pm
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 

Hi, guys...

I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has
a
TOC and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the
pagination starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also
conceivable that I'll eventually have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.

Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the
Index
at the end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?

Thanks

John Posada

Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and distill

[Dov Isaacs]

Rick and I discussed this over the phone.

The problem appears to be associated with not using the RGB option when using 
the "save as PDF" option.

When you don't use the RGB option, FrameMaker uses the old UNIX FrameMaker 
PostScript generator instead of using the Windows PostScript driver via GDI. 
Apparently that UNIX PostScript generator code had some problems mapping 
characters in Rick's symbol font. It could have been a missing mapping table in 
the font itself.

- Dov

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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 11:47 AM
To: Rick Quatro; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Custom font renders different when saving as PDF vs print PS and 
distill


Before you saved as PDF, did you forget to select the Adobe PDF printer?



On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro mailto:rick at rickquatro.com>> wrote:

> Hi Framers,

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> I have a FrameMaker 10 document that uses a custom TTF symbols font. The

> symbols display fine in my FrameMaker document. When I Save As PDF, the

> symbols become squares in the PDF. ...
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What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

[john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com]

Making it a text insert seems to have worked fine, including the TOC
hyperlinks in each copy of the TOC.


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John Posada wrote
>
> I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has
a TOC
> and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the
pagination
> starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also conceivable that
I'll eventually
> have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.
>
> Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the
Index at the
> end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?


Are both volumes in a single .book file? Or do you have separate .books for
each volume?

If it's one book:
1. create the TOC and place it in Volume 1.
2. create an empty file where the TOC for volume 2 should go.
3. In this empty file, place the Volume 1 TOC as a text inset.

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