Table Footnotes

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Carla,
AFAIK, table footnotes have always behaved that way. We also have tables
in our manuals that span several pages and all of the footnotes are at
the bottom of the table. My big pet peeve is when the table is long
enough that the footnotes flip to the top of the next page, without
taking the last row of the table with them. That just looks dumb.


Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek,
Carla
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 2:18 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Table Footnotes

I haven't used table footnotes in ages, but I have a need for them in a
current document.

Am I losing my mind, or have they always appeared only at the *end* of
the table, even when it spans pages? Pretty darn inconvenient if you've
got a footnote on the first page of the table and have to go 2 pages
later to find out what it means...

I can't seem to find a setting to change this.

-Carla

RE: Numbers appended to file name

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

By implanted do you mean cut and pasted or drag and dropped?
I had one writer who loved to do both with screen shots. His documents
are the ones I'm fixing now.
What about graphics on your master pages, such as logos and the likes?
I had some there too.

Berny

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Murray Moore
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:23 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Numbers appended to file name

No, no OLE graphics here. Nearly all screen shots are imported by
reference, with the odd screen shot  implanted in the file. I have not
noticed any gray boxes.

/\/\
Murray


Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:51:25 -0400
From: Gagne, Bernard (Bolton) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Numbers appended to file name
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
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Hi Murray,
FrameMaker is adding the funky alphanumeric extension to your Frame file
because it has changed substantially from the original. I suspect some
of your graphics are not being saved. I have seen that error a lot
lately, especially since our IT dept installed XP SP3 on our machines.
Do you use OLE for any of your graphics in your manuals? If so you may
be dismayed to find they have likely all been blown away. Check the new
files for gray boxes where graphics should be. I found that the first
time I opened a document with OLE images, the images appeared fine when
I first opened the file but if I tried to save the file, I got the
graphics have not been saved error message and the alphanumeric
extension on the file. The only solution to the problem was to eliminate
all OLE graphics and replace them with images imported by reference.
This bug was introduced with XP SP3 and there are no fixes that I know
of (and certainly none planned for Frame 6).
Best of luck.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Murray Moore
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:19 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Numbers appended to file name

I am having a problem using mif2go to save FM files as rtf, but I am
suspicious that the problem is with FM.

Recently I have noticed that when I save a FM file some times I get an
error message, something like graphics have not been saved; the saved
file's name is filename.fm.threelettersorcharacters, e,g,
filename.fm.1A2. I have to delete the 1A2 manually.

I just saved 03 DB Management.fm as 03DBManagement.fm because the mif2go
Help says spaces are bad in a file name to be converted, but what
resulted was 03DBManagement.fm.701.

(Never have I had a problem saving a FM file with spaces in its name as
RTF using mif2togo, eg, 03 DB Management.fm, but I was following the
mif2go Help
instructions.)

Why am I getting these three-letter-and-number-combination suffixes when
I save a FM file?

FM 6.0p405
XP Pro 2002 SP 3
Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz 2.80GHz, 0.99GB RAM

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga
(If you fly to Toronto you land in Mississauga) 
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Numbers appended to file name

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

By "implanted" do you mean cut and pasted or drag and dropped?
I had one writer who loved to do both with screen shots. His documents
are the ones I'm fixing now.
What about graphics on your master pages, such as logos and the likes?
I had some there too.

Berny

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Murray Moore
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:23 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Numbers appended to file name

No, no OLE graphics here. Nearly all screen shots are imported by
reference, with the odd screen shot  implanted in the file. I have not
noticed any gray boxes.

/\/\
Murray


Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:51:25 -0400
From: "Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)" <bga...@husky.ca>
Subject: RE: Numbers appended to file name
To: 
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Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

Hi Murray,
FrameMaker is adding the funky alphanumeric extension to your Frame file
because it has changed substantially from the original. I suspect some
of your graphics are not being saved. I have seen that error a lot
lately, especially since our IT dept installed XP SP3 on our machines.
Do you use OLE for any of your graphics in your manuals? If so you may
be dismayed to find they have likely all been blown away. Check the new
files for gray boxes where graphics should be. I found that the first
time I opened a document with OLE images, the images appeared fine when
I first opened the file but if I tried to save the file, I got the
"graphics have not been saved" error message and the alphanumeric
extension on the file. The only solution to the problem was to eliminate
all OLE graphics and replace them with images imported by reference.
This bug was introduced with XP SP3 and there are no fixes that I know
of (and certainly none planned for Frame 6).
Best of luck.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Murray Moore
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:19 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Numbers appended to file name

I am having a problem using mif2go to save FM files as rtf, but I am
suspicious that the problem is with FM.

Recently I have noticed that when I save a FM file some times I get an
error message, something like "graphics have not been saved"; the saved
file's name is filename.fm.threelettersorcharacters, e,g,
filename.fm.1A2. I have to delete the 1A2 manually.

I just saved 03 DB Management.fm as 03DBManagement.fm because the mif2go
Help says spaces are bad in a file name to be converted, but what
resulted was 03DBManagement.fm.701.

(Never have I had a problem saving a FM file with spaces in its name as
RTF using mif2togo, eg, 03 DB Management.fm, but I was following the
mif2go Help
instructions.)

Why am I getting these three-letter-and-number-combination suffixes when
I save a FM file?

FM 6.0p405
XP Pro 2002 SP 3
Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz 2.80GHz, 0.99GB RAM

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga
(If you fly to Toronto you land in Mississauga) 

RE: Numbers appended to file name

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Murray,
FrameMaker is adding the funky alphanumeric extension to your Frame file
because it has changed substantially from the original. I suspect some
of your graphics are not being saved. I have seen that error a lot
lately, especially since our IT dept installed XP SP3 on our machines.
Do you use OLE for any of your graphics in your manuals? If so you may
be dismayed to find they have likely all been blown away. Check the new
files for gray boxes where graphics should be. I found that the first
time I opened a document with OLE images, the images appeared fine when
I first opened the file but if I tried to save the file, I got the
graphics have not been saved error message and the alphanumeric
extension on the file. The only solution to the problem was to eliminate
all OLE graphics and replace them with images imported by reference.
This bug was introduced with XP SP3 and there are no fixes that I know
of (and certainly none planned for Frame 6).
Best of luck.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Murray Moore
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:19 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Numbers appended to file name

I am having a problem using mif2go to save FM files as rtf, but I am
suspicious that the problem is with FM.

Recently I have noticed that when I save a FM file some times I get an
error message, something like graphics have not been saved; the saved
file's name is filename.fm.threelettersorcharacters, e,g,
filename.fm.1A2. I have to delete the 1A2 manually.

I just saved 03 DB Management.fm as 03DBManagement.fm because the mif2go
Help says spaces are bad in a file name to be converted, but what
resulted was 03DBManagement.fm.701.

(Never have I had a problem saving a FM file with spaces in its name as
RTF using mif2togo, eg, 03 DB Management.fm, but I was following the
mif2go Help
instructions.)

Why am I getting these three-letter-and-number-combination suffixes when
I save a FM file?

FM 6.0p405
XP Pro 2002 SP 3
Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz 2.80GHz, 0.99GB RAM

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga
(If you fly to Toronto you land in Mississauga)
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Numbers appended to file name

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Murray,
FrameMaker is adding the funky alphanumeric extension to your Frame file
because it has changed substantially from the original. I suspect some
of your graphics are not being saved. I have seen that error a lot
lately, especially since our IT dept installed XP SP3 on our machines.
Do you use OLE for any of your graphics in your manuals? If so you may
be dismayed to find they have likely all been blown away. Check the new
files for gray boxes where graphics should be. I found that the first
time I opened a document with OLE images, the images appeared fine when
I first opened the file but if I tried to save the file, I got the
"graphics have not been saved" error message and the alphanumeric
extension on the file. The only solution to the problem was to eliminate
all OLE graphics and replace them with images imported by reference.
This bug was introduced with XP SP3 and there are no fixes that I know
of (and certainly none planned for Frame 6).
Best of luck.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Murray Moore
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:19 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Numbers appended to file name

I am having a problem using mif2go to save FM files as rtf, but I am
suspicious that the problem is with FM.

Recently I have noticed that when I save a FM file some times I get an
error message, something like "graphics have not been saved"; the saved
file's name is filename.fm.threelettersorcharacters, e,g,
filename.fm.1A2. I have to delete the 1A2 manually.

I just saved 03 DB Management.fm as 03DBManagement.fm because the mif2go
Help says spaces are bad in a file name to be converted, but what
resulted was 03DBManagement.fm.701.

(Never have I had a problem saving a FM file with spaces in its name as
RTF using mif2togo, eg, 03 DB Management.fm, but I was following the
mif2go Help
instructions.)

Why am I getting these three-letter-and-number-combination suffixes when
I save a FM file?

FM 6.0p405
XP Pro 2002 SP 3
Pentium D CPU 2.80GHz 2.80GHz, 0.99GB RAM

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga
(If you fly to Toronto you land in Mississauga)
___

RE: FM8 crashes

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

I had to add my two-cents.
We had three systems running FM8 on XP SP2. Two had 1 GB of RAM, one had
2 GB.
We had all the updates to Frame 8. We found FM8 would crash several
times a day, and always whenever we used an MS Office app. The most
frequent culprit was trying to open a mail attachment.
Recently, one of us got a new system with a Core2Duo processor and 2 GB
or RAM. No more crashes.
We're currently lobbying for the other two systems to be upgraded.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lea Rush
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 2:31 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM8 crashes

I haven't run FM 8 (same version, standalone unstructured) very much
since I upgraded, but I will say that I have Outlook open constantly and
haven't seen any FM or Outlook issues. I'm running on Vista, Core2 Duo
2.20 GHz, 3 GB RAM.

Just a datum,
Lea

_

Lea Rush
Software and Documentation Specialist
Astoria-Pacific International
PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015
PH: 800-657-3010
FAX:  503-655-7367

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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:19 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM8 crashes

XP SP2, Pentium 1.5 GHz, 2 GB RAM
Tech Com Suite 1.3, FM 8.0p277

With Outlook and FM open, FM seems to crash for no reason and I often
get very sluggish performance in Outlook. Users around me report no slow
down in their Outlook.

Has anyone else had problems running FM8 concurrently with MS Office or
other programs? Would a faster processor make a significant difference?

Thanks,
Charlie Kyle
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FM8 crashes

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

I had to add my two-cents.
We had three systems running FM8 on XP SP2. Two had 1 GB of RAM, one had
2 GB.
We had all the updates to Frame 8. We found FM8 would crash several
times a day, and always whenever we used an MS Office app. The most
frequent culprit was trying to open a mail attachment.
Recently, one of us got a new system with a Core2Duo processor and 2 GB
or RAM. No more crashes.
We're currently lobbying for the other two systems to be upgraded.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lea Rush
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 2:31 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM8 crashes

I haven't run FM 8 (same version, standalone unstructured) very much
since I upgraded, but I will say that I have Outlook open constantly and
haven't seen any FM or Outlook issues. I'm running on Vista, Core2 Duo
2.20 GHz, 3 GB RAM.

Just a datum,
Lea

_

Lea Rush
Software and Documentation Specialist
Astoria-Pacific International
PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015
PH: 800-657-3010
FAX:  503-655-7367

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Kyle
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:19 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM8 crashes

XP SP2, Pentium 1.5 GHz, 2 GB RAM
Tech Com Suite 1.3, FM 8.0p277

With Outlook and FM open, FM seems to crash for no reason and I often
get very sluggish performance in Outlook. Users around me report no slow
down in their Outlook.

Has anyone else had problems running FM8 concurrently with MS Office or
other programs? Would a faster processor make a significant difference?

Thanks,
Charlie Kyle

RE: Framers Digest, Vol 34, Issue 25

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

 
I got it too, but I attributed it to Tony sending in HTML or some such
that the list is blocking.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:10 PM
To: Tony Marek; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Framers Digest, Vol 34, Issue 25

This is the second empty msg I've gotten from Tony in the last couple
days. 

I recently changed by subscription options to receive msgs. 

I'm trying to figure out which end has the problem. 

Has this happened to anyone else? 

Thanks,

Charlie Kyle

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Framers Digest, Vol 34, Issue 25

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

I got it too, but I attributed it to Tony sending in HTML or some such
that the list is blocking.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Kyle
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:10 PM
To: Tony Marek; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Framers Digest, Vol 34, Issue 25

This is the second empty msg I've gotten from Tony in the last couple
days. 

I recently changed by subscription options to receive msgs. 

I'm trying to figure out which end has the problem. 

Has this happened to anyone else? 

Thanks,

Charlie Kyle

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Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:36 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Framers Digest, Vol 34, Issue 25

RE: FM and png format

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

The only proviso I can think of is to make sure the *.png files are not
saved as Indexed color if you don't want to have hundreds of color
definitions added to your Frame document.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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Lutz
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:41 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM and png format

Dear Framers,

My customer asks whether it's OK to provide the screenshots for his
manual in png format. I have no objections, so far, but just to be sure:
are there any particular drawbacks/shortcomings/pitfalls I have to
consider regarding this format?

TIA!

Lutz

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FM and png format

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

The only proviso I can think of is to make sure the *.png files are not
saved as Indexed color if you don't want to have hundreds of color
definitions added to your Frame document.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Plueckhahn,
Lutz
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:41 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM and png format

Dear Framers,

My customer asks whether it's OK to provide the screenshots for his
manual in png format. I have no objections, so far, but just to be sure:
are there any particular drawbacks/shortcomings/pitfalls I have to
consider regarding this format?

TIA!

Lutz

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RE: The Mystery Wrap

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Frank,
I suspect Distiller is changing your Helvetica to Times New Roman when
you PDF because you do not actually have the Helvetica font on your
system. It is likely residing on your physical printer and Windows is
making available in your Frame font menu. When you print to Adobe PDF,
or save as PDF, it cannot embed a font that is not on your system. Since
the default font for missing fonts is Times New Roman, that is what you
see in the finished PDF.
You need to make Adobe PDF your default printer in FrameMaker. Even if
you had Helvetica installed on your system, the wrapping issue might
persist. This is due to the difference in font metrics between Distiller
and the physical printer. Each interpret font widths and letter spacing
differently, causing lines to wrap unexpectedly.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dodd, Frank J
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:45 PM
To: Framer's List
Subject: The Mystery Wrap


 When converting a framemaker document to an adobe PDF I suddenly get
sentences that wrap onto the next line. 
The only item I can attribute this to is the fact that adobe converts
all the Helvetica fonts in my FM file to Times new roman 
Does anybody have any idea :
Why the change to another font?
Why the mystery wrap?
How to change all the fonts in every style to Arial in one fell swoop?

Frank
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The Mystery Wrap

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Frank,
I suspect Distiller is changing your Helvetica to Times New Roman when
you PDF because you do not actually have the Helvetica font on your
system. It is likely residing on your physical printer and Windows is
making available in your Frame font menu. When you print to Adobe PDF,
or save as PDF, it cannot embed a font that is not on your system. Since
the default font for missing fonts is Times New Roman, that is what you
see in the finished PDF.
You need to make Adobe PDF your default printer in FrameMaker. Even if
you had Helvetica installed on your system, the wrapping issue might
persist. This is due to the difference in font metrics between Distiller
and the physical printer. Each interpret font widths and letter spacing
differently, causing lines to wrap unexpectedly.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dodd, Frank J
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:45 PM
To: Framer's List
Subject: The Mystery Wrap


 When converting a framemaker document to an adobe PDF I suddenly get
sentences that wrap onto the next line. 
The only item I can attribute this to is the fact that adobe converts
all the Helvetica fonts in my FM file to Times new roman 
Does anybody have any idea :
Why the change to another font?
Why the mystery wrap?
How to change all the fonts in every style to Arial in one fell swoop?

Frank
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RE: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Bodvar,
Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it
distills successfully?
I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and
it has always come down to a problematic EPS image.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bodvar
Bjorgvinsson
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

Thanks Art,

I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT
file, so no problem there.
About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are
running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary
applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a
book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one
offending graphic.

Bodvar


On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 OK,
 It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text.
 Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the 
 C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling 
 without opening any unnecessary applications?

 ***
 What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you 
 doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling?

 Art

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when

 printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always 
 crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps 
 file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the

 first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body
format).
 There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the 
 chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot 
 of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs.

 I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a 
 new file, but the result is always the same.

 I am on a tight schedule with this.

 Any suggestions?

 Thanks beforehand,

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
 Air Atlanta Icelandic

 --
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FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Bodvar,
Have you tried removing the EPS on page 6 of chapter 4 and seeing if it
distills successfully?
I have had issues such as you describe, right down to missing text, and
it has always come down to a problematic EPS image.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bodvar
Bjorgvinsson
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 8:31 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Re: FM Crash chapter 4 page 5

Thanks Art,

I have a script that runs at shutdown that deletes the FNTCACHE.DAT
file, so no problem there.
About unnecessary apps, there is always a lot of processes that are
running, but, yes, I have after reboot deleted all unnecessary
applications before printing again to ps. And only Friday I processed a
book 2,5 times larger without a glitch -- i.e. after I had changed one
offending graphic.

Bodvar


On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Art Campbell 
wrote:
> OK,
> It sounds as if you have two problems, crashing and missing text.
> Have you applied the standard fix for missing text: deleting the 
> C:\WINDOWS\system32\FNTCACHE.DAT and rebooting? And then distilling 
> without opening any unnecessary applications?
>
> ***
> What version of Acrobat / Distiller are you using, and why are you 
> doing a two-step process, printing a PS file and then distilling?
>
> Art
>
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson 
wrote:
>> This is weird. I am working on a nonstructured FM (7.2) book and when

>> printing to ps with bookmarks (and tagged or untagged) it always 
>> crashes on the same spot, page 5 of Chapter 4. I can distill the ps 
>> file and it looks fine all the way through chapter 3, but even on the

>> first page of chapter 4 a lot of text is missing (mainly body
format).
>> There are no offending imported graphics. The first graphic of the 
>> chapter is on page 6 (eps from Illustrator). However there is a lot 
>> of graphics in chapter 3, mainly eps's, but also tifs.
>>
>> I have MIF-washed Chapter 4, copied the contents of Chapter 4 into a 
>> new file, but the result is always the same.
>>
>> I am on a tight schedule with this.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks beforehand,
>>
>> Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
>> Air Atlanta Icelandic
>>
>> --
>> "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so
ingenious."
>>  -- Edsel Murphy, dec.
>
> --
> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent

> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
>  DoD 358
>



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RE: Converting to Word

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Frank,
If you're stuck having to do it with the existing tools, the only way I
have found of doing it consistently is to remove all graphics from the
Frame docs and export to RTF. You then open the RTF docs in Word, clean
up the formatting and re-import all your graphics.
Yes, it's a PITA.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:09 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Converting to Word


 I have a small set of documents that I wish to convert to Microsoft
Word format. They are work instructions with graphics attached - no
external links. I have tried the Save as technique and it just locks up
Framemaker. 

Short of retyping the documents does anybody know of a way to convert
them to MS Word. We are not allowed to purchase outside software or
plugins to make the process easier. 

\God forbid we do something that makes us more efficient. That's
sarcasm.


Frank
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Converting to Word

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Frank,
If you're stuck having to do it with the existing tools, the only way I
have found of doing it consistently is to remove all graphics from the
Frame docs and export to RTF. You then open the RTF docs in Word, clean
up the formatting and re-import all your graphics.
Yes, it's a PITA.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Dodd, Frank J
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:09 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Converting to Word


 I have a small set of documents that I wish to convert to Microsoft
Word format. They are work instructions with graphics attached - no
external links. I have tried the Save as technique and it just locks up
Framemaker. 

Short of retyping the documents does anybody know of a way to convert
them to MS Word. We are not allowed to purchase outside software or
plugins to make the process easier. 

\God forbid we do something that makes us more efficient. That's
sarcasm.


Frank
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RE: FM 8.0 Image color glitch

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Valerie,
Are any of the problem images rotated in your Frame document? In other
words, they display in landscape mode in Photoshop, and you turn them 90
degrees to portrait mode in Frame.
In my experience that produces the effect you describe.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Valerie Lipow
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:30 PM
To: Framers
Subject: FM 8.0 Image color glitch

I have a weird problem with images (.jpg) imported by reference or
copied into FM: the image colors are very strange. For example, a white
(blank) background displays as either magenta or black (or green).
Flesh-colored hues display as royal blue. Black displays as white. Green
displays as orange. I could go on, but you get the idea.

In addition, when the document is printed to the Acrobat Distiller, the
result PDF document shows the weird colors, not the original colors as
verified in PaintShop Pro AND in Photoshop.

I have looked at the Color Views dialog, but don't know what to change,
if anything. Selecting Black and White views does not help, nor does
print color as grayscale. In the File Import dialog, I am using the
default As Color.

I have never seen this kind of problem before. Any advice?

Thanks in advance,

--
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FM 8.0 Image color glitch

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Valerie,
Are any of the problem images rotated in your Frame document? In other
words, they display in landscape mode in Photoshop, and you turn them 90
degrees to portrait mode in Frame.
In my experience that produces the effect you describe.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Valerie Lipow
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:30 PM
To: Framers
Subject: FM 8.0 Image color glitch

I have a weird problem with images (.jpg) imported by reference or
copied into FM: the image colors are very strange. For example, a white
(blank) background displays as either magenta or black (or green).
Flesh-colored hues display as royal blue. Black displays as white. Green
displays as orange. I could go on, but you get the idea.

In addition, when the document is printed to the Acrobat Distiller, the
result PDF document shows the weird colors, not the original colors as
verified in PaintShop Pro AND in Photoshop.

I have looked at the Color Views dialog, but don't know what to change,
if anything. Selecting Black and White views does not help, nor does
print color as grayscale. In the File Import dialog, I am using the
default As Color.

I have never seen this kind of problem before. Any advice?

Thanks in advance,

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vallipow at gmail.com
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RE: OS X 10.4.11 -- can't import files from Word

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

At the risk of starting the whining again, the eval version of Frame 8
won't run in Mac OS X. 
I suspect Louise's only option is to try saving as RTF and opening the
file in Frame. The fact that it is French as opposed to English should
make no difference since French uses the standard font set.
Bonne chance.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:45 AM
To: Louise Moritsugu
Cc: Framers List
Subject: Re: OS X 10.4.11 -- can't import files from Word

Ignoring the question of language compatibility...

The easiest way to open a Word file in Frame is not to... Instead, save
Word as an RTF and open that.  (Note that I'm saying Open -- not Import.
Import implies that the file is imported as an object within Frame,
which isn't what you should be trying to do.)

However, FM 6 is kind of an antique version, so the import filters
aren't as robust as the either 7.x or the current 8.0's --- they've been
updated and changed several times. You may also have problems with
native Word import because the Word files could have originated in a
version that was still in the future when FM 6 was shipping.

If the RTF doesn't give you better results, I'd try downloading the FM
8 eval version and see if that works better...

Art

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Louise Moritsugu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hi,

  I'm just starting a French version of an English book I completed a  
 few months ago.

  The Eng was done in FM 6.0 on OSX 10.3.x (9?).

  I'm trying to do the French in FM 6.O on OSX 10.4.11.

  I can open FrameMaker alright, but it won't import the French Word  
 files. The error message reads:

  Mastersoft Error: From -Side Converter returned error 3

  I've reinstalled Framemaker.

  The Frameusers site is down until Mon, so I can't search the
archives.

  The usual way I do these books is to import from Word because the  
 files have retained the FM the style tags. I could cut and paste, I  
 suppose, but that will double my work time. And, of course, I'm  
 behind schedule.

  Any ideas on how to fix this or am I out of luck? Reinstall OSX 3?

  Thanks,

  Louise


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OS X 10.4.11 -- can't import files from Word

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

At the risk of starting the whining again, the eval version of Frame 8
won't run in Mac OS X. 
I suspect Louise's only option is to try saving as RTF and opening the
file in Frame. The fact that it is French as opposed to English should
make no difference since French uses the standard font set.
Bonne chance.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:45 AM
To: Louise Moritsugu
Cc: Framers List
Subject: Re: OS X 10.4.11 -- can't import files from Word

Ignoring the question of language compatibility...

The easiest way to open a Word file in Frame is not to... Instead, save
Word as an RTF and open that.  (Note that I'm saying Open -- not Import.
Import implies that the file is imported as an object within Frame,
which isn't what you should be trying to do.)

However, FM 6 is kind of an antique version, so the import filters
aren't as robust as the either 7.x or the current 8.0's --- they've been
updated and changed several times. You may also have problems with
native Word import because the Word files could have originated in a
version that was still in the future when FM 6 was shipping.

If the RTF doesn't give you better results, I'd try downloading the FM
8 eval version and see if that works better...

Art

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Louise Moritsugu 
wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  I'm just starting a French version of an English book I completed a  
> few months ago.
>
>  The Eng was done in FM 6.0 on OSX 10.3.x (9?).
>
>  I'm trying to do the French in FM 6.O on OSX 10.4.11.
>
>  I can open FrameMaker alright, but it won't import the French Word  
> files. The error message reads:
>
>  "Mastersoft Error: From -Side Converter returned error 3"
>
>  I've reinstalled Framemaker.
>
>  The Frameusers site is down until Mon, so I can't search the
archives.
>
>  The usual way I do these books is to import from Word because the  
> files have retained the FM the style tags. I could cut and paste, I  
> suppose, but that will double my work time. And, of course, I'm  
> behind schedule.
>
>  Any ideas on how to fix this or am I out of luck? Reinstall OSX 3?
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Louise


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and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson  No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358

RE: Fonts for Turkish?

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

 
Hi Milan,
We're creating manuals in Turkish, or rather our localization vendor is
doing it for us. Our manuals use Myriad Pro and Myriad Pro Condensed,
both of which are OpenType fonts and have the necessary glyphs for
Turkish.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada



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Davidovic
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:30 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Fonts for Turkish?

Tried this already on techwr-l, with no replies. As I'm working in Frame
perhaps some of you can reply.

Are any of you creating documents in Turkish? If so, what font(s) are
you using?

Thanks.

--
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http://altmilan.blogspot.com
http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
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Fonts for Turkish?

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Milan,
We're creating manuals in Turkish, or rather our localization vendor is
doing it for us. Our manuals use Myriad Pro and Myriad Pro Condensed,
both of which are OpenType fonts and have the necessary glyphs for
Turkish.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada



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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Milan
Davidovic
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 9:30 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Fonts for Turkish?

Tried this already on techwr-l, with no replies. As I'm working in Frame
perhaps some of you can reply.

Are any of you creating documents in Turkish? If so, what font(s) are
you using?

Thanks.

--
Milan Davidovic
http://altmilan.blogspot.com
http://stctorcomp.blogspot.com
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RE: Globally changing cross-reference styles

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

David,
You should get the FindChangeSpecial plugin from Rick Quatro. It allows
you to map a cross-reference format to another one. I've used it
extensively and it has saved me hours of painstaking labor.
Check it out at
http://frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kuhn
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:17 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Suzette Cormier
Subject: Globally changing cross-reference styles

There was a change in the style used for all our headings, from numbered
sections to non-numbered.
One results is that we need to reapply all the cross-reference styles.
So far we have been doing it manually. 
Am I missing something?
Is there a way to globally change cross-reference styles without
purposely corrupted the template by redefining the existing Styles.

If any Adobe people are listening: The options in the Find dropdown list
are great. But the Change options are very limited. Shouldn't the Change
options mirror the Find options?

David Kuhn
Technical Writer, PBG


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Globally changing cross-reference styles

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

David,
You should get the FindChangeSpecial plugin from Rick Quatro. It allows
you to map a cross-reference format to another one. I've used it
extensively and it has saved me hours of painstaking labor.
Check it out at
http://frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Kuhn
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:17 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Suzette Cormier
Subject: Globally changing cross-reference styles

There was a change in the style used for all our headings, from numbered
sections to non-numbered.
One results is that we need to reapply all the cross-reference styles.
So far we have been doing it manually. 
Am I missing something?
Is there a way to globally change cross-reference styles without
purposely corrupted the template by redefining the existing Styles.

If any Adobe people are listening: The options in the Find dropdown list
are great. But the Change options are very limited. Shouldn't the Change
options mirror the Find options?

David Kuhn
Technical Writer, PBG


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+1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile)

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RE: Recovery

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

I usually do the same thing, except I change the recover in the
filename to something like a date. That way Frame doesn't complain that
it sees a recovery file and opens the two files without any hassle.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

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O'Neill
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:12 PM
To: Harold Winberg; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Recovery

Here's what I would do:

1) Back up a copy of both the original and the recovered versions to
someplace safe.
2) Open the recovered version in FrameMaker.
3) Open the original version in FrameMaker (might have to force it).
4) Compare the differences between the two versions using FrameMaker's
compare feature. (File- Utilities- Compare Documents)  Select the
Summary and Composite Documents option when doing so.
5) See which version has the most up-to-date information. Save that
version over the original version.

Note: I just sort of developed this method by intuition. I'd be glad to
hear if anyone does something different/there are problems with my
method/easier ways to determine whether or not to go with a recovery
version of a .fm file.

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Winberg
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 2:59 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Recovery

Hello Framers

 

I am building a Book and got the Book Error Report saying Couldn't open
file because a more recent autosaved or recovered version exists.

 

There is a recovered version in the folder.

 

What is the safe thing to do??

 

Les Winberg

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Recovery

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

I usually do the same thing, except I change the "recover" in the
filename to something like a date. That way Frame doesn't complain that
it sees a recovery file and opens the two files without any hassle.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael
O'Neill
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 4:12 PM
To: Harold Winberg; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Recovery

Here's what I would do:

1) Back up a copy of both the original and the recovered versions to
someplace safe.
2) Open the recovered version in FrameMaker.
3) Open the original version in FrameMaker (might have to force it).
4) Compare the differences between the two versions using FrameMaker's
compare feature. (File-> Utilities-> Compare Documents)  Select the
"Summary and Composite Documents" option when doing so.
5) See which version has the most up-to-date information. Save that
version over the original version.

Note: I just sort of developed this method by intuition. I'd be glad to
hear if anyone does something different/there are problems with my
method/easier ways to determine whether or not to go with a recovery
version of a .fm file.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harold
Winberg
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 2:59 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Recovery

Hello Framers



I am building a Book and got the Book Error Report saying Couldn't open
file because a more recent autosaved or recovered version exists.



There is a recovered version in the folder.



What is the safe thing to do??



Les Winberg

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RE: imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Are you creating the EPS with a TIFF preview?
FrameMaker needs the TIFF preview to display on screen. 

Berny Gagne
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Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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Subject: imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

Hi all,

 

(FM 7.2 on Windows)

 

I am trying to import an Adobe Illustrator .eps file into FrameMaker 7.2
but it comes in as a gray box. Is there a way to have it appear as
intended? And why does it come in as a gray box?

 

I know this has been mentioned before but I couldn't dig through the
archives easily.

 

 

Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354

 

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imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Are you creating the EPS with a TIFF preview?
FrameMaker needs the TIFF preview to display on screen. 

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:07 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: imported illustrator images appear as gray boxes

Hi all,



(FM 7.2 on Windows)



I am trying to import an Adobe Illustrator .eps file into FrameMaker 7.2
but it comes in as a gray box. Is there a way to have it appear as
intended? And why does it come in as a gray box?



I know this has been mentioned before but I couldn't dig through the
archives easily.





Jon Harvey

Manager, Desktop Documentation

CambridgeSoft Corporation

100 CambridgePark Drive

Cambridge, MA 02140

(617) 588-9354



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RE: Can HTML Help Display in Other Languages (like Russian)?

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

WebWorks 9.2's inability to handle Russian and Chinese (among many
others) was the chief reason my company abandoned it as a solution for
HTML Help. It worked just fine with standard Latin character based
languages, but we also needed a solution that worked with Cyrillic,
Greek, and Asian languages.
I would not recommend it.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada



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Subject: Can HTML Help Display in Other Languages (like Russian)?

Hi, Framers.

 

After spending the morning Googling this topic with not much to show for
my efforts, I realized I should have checked with the brethren to start
with.  I don't know all the details yet (the project is just beginning)
but I'm hearing that they'll want HTML Help displayed in Spanish and
Russian, and maybe Chinese.  Will FrameMaker 7.0 and WebWorks 9.2 handle
all the different characters and number, currency, and date formats
associated with these languages?  And can these languages be displayed
okay in HTML Help?

 

Thanks!

Ed Lightle
Sr. Technical Writer
Command Alkon
614-799-0600 ext. 5225
www.commandalkon.com
outbind://160-4F674D983274F44DB728ECC7702687A607005939B5FCA0AB5
E47BE45F5D06BAAD4570006D8CBB55F2A482771FC41AB74F6ACA4037AFF0
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Can HTML Help Display in Other Languages (like Russian)?

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

WebWorks 9.2's inability to handle Russian and Chinese (among many
others) was the chief reason my company abandoned it as a solution for
HTML Help. It worked just fine with standard Latin character based
languages, but we also needed a solution that worked with Cyrillic,
Greek, and Asian languages.
I would not recommend it.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada



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[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Ed Lightle
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:48 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can HTML Help Display in Other Languages (like Russian)?

Hi, Framers.



After spending the morning Googling this topic with not much to show for
my efforts, I realized I should have checked with the brethren to start
with.  I don't know all the details yet (the project is just beginning)
but I'm hearing that they'll want HTML Help displayed in Spanish and
Russian, and maybe Chinese.  Will FrameMaker 7.0 and WebWorks 9.2 handle
all the different characters and number, currency, and date formats
associated with these languages?  And can these languages be displayed
okay in HTML Help?



Thanks!

Ed Lightle
Sr. Technical Writer
Command Alkon
614-799-0600 ext. 5225
www.commandalkon.com
  



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radical revamping of techpubs

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

In my opinion, the developer is the most ill-suited person to be writing
the documentation. Their knowledge of the product is frequently too deep
for the average user and the end result is often woefully inadequate for
said average user. The fact that the developers are not native-English
speakers merely adds insult to injury.
Was this some pencil-pusher's idea of a cost cutting measure? Did he
factor in the cost of all the additional phone support that will now be
required? Or is your firm one of those that charges from the first
minute for any support?

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of mulholland4
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:55 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: radical revamping of techpubs

Hi,
I would like to see what the group thinks of this scenario for writing
documentation within a company?

1. Remove all existing tech writing staff from techpubs.
2. Replace these with software developers and specialists who know the
software inside out and get them to write all of the documentation.
These would now be known as Developer-techwriters. (It should be noted
that none of these people has English as a first language, despite this
being the primary market for the documentation.) 3. Hire editing staff
to edit only the language and grammar of the documents written by the
software specialists.

The reasoning behind this scenario is; that this saves money as the
developers know the software, and it is really cheap to get university
students to come in and edit.

I won't make comments on this just now as i'm sure there are many of us
who just want to run screaming!

thanks
Mulholland
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RE: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Just a shot in the dark here, but were your page and column breaks
applied via manual overrides (using SpecialPage Break), and did you
recently re-import your document formats? If so, you blew them away by
re-importing the template.
Manual overrides are rarely the way to go if you want any kind of
formatting consistency. You need to create paragraph tags with the
column break and page break built-in.

Berny Gagne
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Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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Subject: Re: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Natalie Bircher wrote:
 Does anyone know why I would lose page and column breaks? 
 


In the words of a favourite reference librarian of mine, when speaking
to patrons with ill-formed questions:

Could you please be a little more vague?

Natalie!!  You are a technical writer.  Please provide some context,
lots of details, your OS and FM version, etc. so your audience knows
what the heck you are talking about.

thanks,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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On the contrary.
-- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he seemed a little 
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Why am I losing page and column breaks?

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Just a shot in the dark here, but were your page and column breaks
applied via manual overrides (using Special>Page Break), and did you
recently re-import your document formats? If so, you blew them away by
re-importing the template.
Manual overrides are rarely the way to go if you want any kind of
formatting consistency. You need to create paragraph tags with the
column break and page break built-in.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:53 AM
To: natalieb at backstreetmedia.com
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Why am I losing page and column breaks?

Natalie Bircher wrote:
> Does anyone know why I would lose page and column breaks? 
> 


In the words of a favourite reference librarian of mine, when speaking
to patrons with ill-formed questions:

"Could you please be a little more vague?"

Natalie!!  You are a technical writer.  Please provide some context,
lots of details, your OS and FM version, etc. so your audience knows
what the heck you are talking about.

thanks,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

"On the contrary."
-- Henrik Ibsen (last words, after a nurse said he "seemed a little 
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Problems with the trial version of FrameMaker 8

[Gagne, Bernard \(Bolton\)]

Good morning (EDT) all,
We have tried several times this morning to download the trial version
of Frame 8 from the Adobe site. Each time we met with the same end
result; the file fails to decompress.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem before I
go blame our network firewall.
Were all on P4 machines running XP Pro (2.6+ GHz, 1 GB RAM, 80+ GB HD).
Thank you.
Berny Gagne 
Lead Writer 
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. 
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

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Problems with the trial version of FrameMaker 8

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Good morning (EDT) all,
We have tried several times this morning to download the trial version
of Frame 8 from the Adobe site. Each time we met with the same end
result; the file fails to decompress.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem before I
go blame our network firewall.
Were all on P4 machines running XP Pro (2.6+ GHz, 1 GB RAM, 80+ GB HD).
Thank you.
Berny Gagne 
Lead Writer 
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. 
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

RE: Mac Keyboard Commands

[Gagne, Bernard \(Bolton\)]

I thought I would point out that, since Ron is working with Parallels on
the Mac, Frame is running in Windows and will respond to Windows
shortcuts, not Mac ones.
He needs a way of interpreting Windows keyboard shortcuts on a Mac
keyboard. Mind you, the Esc command should work just fine.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 2:26 PM
To: Ron Miller
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Commands

Ron Miller wrote:
 Hi:
 I 'm working in Frame 7.1 running Windows in Parallels on a Mac Book
Pro.
 
 I can't seem to select a row in a table and I'm wondering if someone 
 could give me the Mac keyboard command to select a row in a table.
 
 Thanks,
 Ron


See the Help topic, Quick Reference (Mac OS), Working with Tables.

regards,


--
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Mac Keyboard Commands

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

I thought I would point out that, since Ron is working with Parallels on
the Mac, Frame is running in Windows and will respond to Windows
shortcuts, not Mac ones.
He needs a way of interpreting Windows keyboard shortcuts on a Mac
keyboard. Mind you, the Esc command should work just fine.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 2:26 PM
To: Ron Miller
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Mac Keyboard Commands

Ron Miller wrote:
> Hi:
> I 'm working in Frame 7.1 running Windows in Parallels on a Mac Book
Pro.
> 
> I can't seem to select a row in a table and I'm wondering if someone 
> could give me the Mac keyboard command to select a row in a table.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ron


See the Help topic, "Quick Reference (Mac OS), Working with Tables."

regards,


--
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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RE: Does anyone have an EDD for the Bible?

[Gagne, Bernard \(Bolton\)]

It was Mel Brooks' History of the World - Part 1 and it's a classic
bit.
I recently watched it with my kids and they loved it.
Some things never go out of style.

Berny Gagne

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
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Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:46 PM
To: Lin Surasky; Stuart Rogers
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Does anyone have an EDD for the Bible?

I saw that, and was also thinking about it. I think it was a Monty
Python film. Moses was walking down the mountain holding three tablets.
He says, I give you the 15... and then one tablet drops and breaks. So
he amends his statement and says, I give you the ten commandments.
Someone should have told Moses about creating backups! 


Thank you,

 
Gillian Flato



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Behalf Of Lin Surasky
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:14 PM
To: Stuart Rogers
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

Actually, according to an historical film I saw as a child, there were
actually three tablets, but one fell off the mountain and was never
replaced 

Now THAT's an editing job! 

 -Original Message-
 From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:06 PM
 To: Lin Surasky
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?
 
 Lin Surasky wrote:
   
  I'm sorry. We're having a tool discussion on another
 thread, and I'm
  afraid that this stone/chisel suggestion is going to end up
 as the top
  choice!
  
  (Would it be better than RoboHelp for creating documentation?)
  ;-)
 
 I think this early PDF (Portable Decree Format) has been abandoned, as

 it turned out to be surprisingly fragile -- the first deliverables 
 were damaged by the carrier and had to be replaced.
 
 --
 Stuart Rogers
 Technical Communicator
 Phoenix Geophysics Limited
 Toronto, ON, Canada
 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
 
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FM v. RoboHelp

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

In all of this, one thought occurred to me and it regards the upcoming
release of Frame 8 later this year.
Since RoboHelp is now an Adobe product, what are the odds Adobe will
drop WebWorks and adopt RH as the chosen output method for CHM with
FrameMaker? It would seem an ideal solution, with Flare nipping at their
heels.
Did I just add more fuel to the fire?

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada


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From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Rene Stephenson
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:02 PM
To: Lin Surasky; John Sgammato; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM v. RoboHelp

You could really stir the pot by throwing ePublisher in the mix as a
single-sourcing solution.There's an import utility available for
ePublisher that can take any RH project and convert it to MIF, retaining
links and mapping formats as you determine in the interface. Depending
on the size of the RH project and whether there are multiple RH projects
to merge into a single-source ePub project with multiple
versions/translations/localization as output, it could take hours or a
few weeks to complete... BUT it would be a one-time hit. Then set it up
with AutoMap to create the PDFs in sequence whenever you'd like (even
while you're asleep). Just food for thought...conceding, of course, that
Mif2Go is more cost-effective.

Rene

Lin Surasky  wrote: Very true. However, I
didn't mention that there are 4  writers on the team who ARE using RH to
create content, and not only aren't  complaining, but one of them will
fight as hard to keep RH as I will to keep FM.  We're in different
countries, with an international audience, so it's divided as  to what
our customers want. Which is why I think FM is perfect: We can delliver
BOTH PDF and CHM easily.

 I guess I just need to keep repeating  that...

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Does anyone have an EDD for the Bible?

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

It was Mel Brooks' "History of the World - Part 1" and it's a classic
bit.
I recently watched it with my kids and they loved it.
Some things never go out of style.

Berny Gagne

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From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Gillian Flato
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 4:46 PM
To: Lin Surasky; Stuart Rogers
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Does anyone have an EDD for the Bible?

I saw that, and was also thinking about it. I think it was a Monty
Python film. Moses was walking down the mountain holding three tablets.
He says, "I give you the 15..." and then one tablet drops and breaks. So
he amends his statement and says, "I give you the ten commandments."
Someone should have told Moses about creating backups! 


Thank you,


Gillian Flato



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From: framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+gflato=nanometrics.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Lin Surasky
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:14 PM
To: Stuart Rogers
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?

Actually, according to an historical film I saw as a child, there were
actually three tablets, but one fell off the mountain and was never
replaced 

Now THAT's an editing job! 

> -Original Message-
> From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:06 PM
> To: Lin Surasky
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Does anyones have an EDD for the Bible?
> 
> Lin Surasky wrote:
> >  
> > I'm sorry. We're having a tool discussion on another
> thread, and I'm
> > afraid that this stone/chisel suggestion is going to end up
> as the top
> > choice!
> > 
> > (Would it be better than RoboHelp for creating documentation?)
> > ;-)
> 
> I think this early PDF (Portable Decree Format) has been abandoned, as

> it turned out to be surprisingly fragile -- the first deliverables 
> were damaged by the carrier and had to be replaced.
> 
> --
> Stuart Rogers
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> Toronto, ON, Canada
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
> 
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RE: Faster scrolling

[Gagne, Bernard \(Bolton\)]

Hi Natalie,
You could always hide the graphics when you don't need to view them.
The keyboard shortcut is Esc+v+v (make sure to type lowercase v).
The same through menus is View  Options... and uncheck Graphics in
the dialog box.

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We have graphic-intensive docs and it takes forever to scroll through
the doc. Is there a way to speed things up?

 

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Faster scrolling

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Natalie,
You could always hide the graphics when you don't need to view them.
The keyboard shortcut is Esc+v+v (make sure to type lowercase "v").
The same through menus is "View > Options..." and uncheck "Graphics" in
the dialog box.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
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We have graphic-intensive docs and it takes forever to scroll through
the doc. Is there a way to speed things up?



Natalie Bircher

Technical Writer

BackStreet Media

Phone: 320-843-4337 

Fax: 320-842-4236

Email:  
natalieb at backstreetmedia.com



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RE: CorelDraw Embedded Graphics

[Gagne, Bernard \(Bolton\)]

I would hasten to add EPS (with TIFF preview) to that list. You never
want to downgrade a vector graphic by rasterizing it. I have also had no
problems with PDF import into Frame, although the last time I checked
there were some problems with getting clean PDFs from Corel's own export
filters. I find it best to print to Adobe PDF directly.

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Subject: Re: CorelDraw Embedded Graphics

At 12:54 PM -0500 5/29/07, Lise Bible wrote:
I've not had the greatest luck using CorelDraw graphics directly in 
Frame--most of the manuals I've been editing recently were created by 
my predecessor and the graphics were linked tif's which were originally

AutoCAD drawings opened in CorelDraw, edited, then exported as tif's. 
However, regarding trying other output formats, recently I tried 
exporting graphics from CorelDraw as wmf's, choosing text in the 
export text as dialog box (as opposed to curves). Seems to work well 
for me.

HTH,
Lise Bible

I would  not use a metafile like wmf. There are always gotcha's hiding
in them, and they sometimes don't reproduce well. Using a pure graphic
format would be better, like png, gif, tiff, or the like.

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RE: First Time Framer!

[Gagne, Bernard \(Bolton\)]

 
A benevolent God would give us FrameMaker 9 with InDesign's
typographical engine on Mac OS X.
Let's see what Adobe gives us.  ;-)

Berny

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At 10:42 -0500 30/5/07, Kenneth C. Benson wrote:

Frame considers only one line at a time. ID understands that it can
break URLs at slashes and periods; Frame allows you to define break
characters, but once you've allowed (for example) breaks after slashes,
you have no way to disallow 1/2 from breaking, except to fool around
with tracking until the line breaks in a different place... The
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CorelDraw Embedded Graphics

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

I would hasten to add EPS (with TIFF preview) to that list. You never
want to downgrade a vector graphic by rasterizing it. I have also had no
problems with PDF import into Frame, although the last time I checked
there were some problems with getting clean PDFs from Corel's own export
filters. I find it best to print to Adobe PDF directly.

Berny Gagne
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Bolton, Ontario, Canada

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To: Lise Bible; framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Re: CorelDraw Embedded Graphics

At 12:54 PM -0500 5/29/07, Lise Bible wrote:
>I've not had the greatest luck using CorelDraw graphics directly in 
>Frame--most of the manuals I've been editing recently were created by 
>my predecessor and the graphics were linked tif's which were originally

>AutoCAD drawings opened in CorelDraw, edited, then exported as tif's. 
>However, regarding trying other output formats, recently I tried 
>exporting graphics from CorelDraw as wmf's, choosing text in the 
>"export text as" dialog box (as opposed to curves). Seems to work well 
>for me.
>
>HTH,
>Lise Bible

I would  not use a metafile like wmf. There are always gotcha's hiding
in them, and they sometimes don't reproduce well. Using a pure graphic
format would be better, like png, gif, tiff, or the like.

Scott

First Time Framer!

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

A benevolent God would give us FrameMaker 9 with InDesign's
typographical engine on Mac OS X.
Let's see what Adobe gives us.  ;-)

Berny

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To: Kenneth C. Benson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: First Time Framer!

At 10:42 -0500 30/5/07, Kenneth C. Benson wrote:

>Frame considers only one line at a time. ID understands that it can
break URLs at slashes and periods; Frame allows you to define break
characters, but once you've allowed (for example) breaks after slashes,
you have no way to disallow 1/2 from breaking, except to fool around
with tracking until the line breaks in a different place... The
difference is dramatic.

A benevolent God would give us FrameMaker 9 with InD's typographical
engine.

Are you listening, Adobe?

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Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

For the tables you could always import the HTML into Word and export the
tables out as RTF. 

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
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Bolton, Ontario, Canada

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Of Pat Christenson
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:38 PM
To: framers List
Subject: Re: Importing HTML into FrameMaker?

That would help.

I think tables are probably going to be the nightmarish part.

Pat

On Apr 20, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Art Campbell wrote:

> I'd at least think about importing the HTML source, rather than 
> cut-and-pasting from a browser window. If you did that, you should be 
> able to do a series of find-and-replaces based on your tags
> (=Heading1) for both paragraphs and characters, and then finish 
> cleaning up with wildcard based deletions.
>
> Art
>
> On 4/20/07, Pat Christenson  wrote:
>> Hi all -
>>
>> I have a client who wants to import HTML docs into FrameMaker. My 
>> guess is that this will be a copy-and-paste with a lot of manual 
>> cleanup. Anybody have any ideas on how to make this less painful?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Pat Christenson

RE: Background with JPEG

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

 
And we all know how well it works when you leave runarounds turned on.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

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To: mathieu jacquet
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Background with JPEG

Well,

No, FM doesn't support transparency. However, you might run into a
disagreement on whether it's broken or not. As whoever you quoted
mentioned, the tradeoff seems to be support for runarounds or
transparency, and they picked runarounds.

Art

On 3/20/07, mathieu jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I come back to what you both said about transparency after reading 
 this technical note by Adobe :

  Transparent Color in Images Is White in FrameMaker

 Adobe FrameMaker doesn't support transparency in image files (for 
 example, EPS, TIFF, GIF, or JPEG). When you import an image, 
 FrameMaker maps any transparent pixels to white to enable irregular 
 text runarounds. If FrameMaker did not map transparent areas of images

 to white, text runarounds would not work correctly with the image

 (http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=317850)

 So, does FrameMaker support transparency at all or not ? Apparently, 
 versions affected by this technical note are 5.0 to 7.0...WAs it fixed

 with the 7.2 version ?

 Thank you for you help,

 Mathieu.


 From: Sean Pollock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Background with JPEG
 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:18:06 +
 
 
 
 EPS with transparency applied always works well if you don't mind the

 larger file size.
 
 --Sean Pollock
 UGS Corp.
 
 
 
 
 From:  Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:  mathieu jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC:  framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject:  Re: Background with JPEG
 Date:  Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:50:31 -0500
  The short answer is no, because (besides being a poor choice for 
  any publishing use other than www) transparency isn't supported.
  
  If you have Photoshop or a similar program, you can isolate the 
  background from your subject and set it to white and still use
.jpg.
  
  If you want true transparency, you need to pick a graphic file 
  format that supports it: Photoshop's own format, GIF, or another...
  
  Art
  
  On 2/27/07, jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi
 all,
  
  when you import jpeg images (pictures of spare parts), is it 
  possible not to have a white or greyish square background appear ?
  
  Do you import in another format or is there a trick to have the 
  background disappear ?
  
  Thank you all,
  
  Mathieu.
  
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RE: Strange PDF Problem

[Gagne, Bernard \(Bolton\)]

 
Hi Nancy,
The only time I've seen the links get destroyed in the way you are
describing is when I chose to create a book with one PDF file per
chapter.
In situations like that, if I were to rename a file, the links to it
would be broken.
But never internal links, and never with a book saved as a single PDF,
with no external links.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

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Hi Alan,
 
I get the same results when I do either: change the name after saving,
or putting in a name different than the book name while I'm saving as
pdf.
 
Nancy
 
 
In a message dated 3/20/2007 4:32:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Nancy,

From your original description, Dianne is right. As I  read it, you
described that you had made the pdf, changed its name, then  found the
links were subsequently broken.

Are you actually saying  that you set the output name prior to the pdf
being made, using the Save As  dialog? If so, what happens if you print
to  pdf?

Alan


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But  shouldn't I be able to enter in a file name different from the
book   
file
 when I choose File--Save As? Or do I always have to use the  book
name.  
This
 has worked in the past.

  Thanks,
 Nancy



 In a message dated  3/20/2007 3:52:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:

 Hi  Nancy,

 This is not a strange  problem. It is the way that Acrobat is
designed.  
The
 links  contain the filenames that exist when you creat  them.  You  
 cannot change the external name of the file afterward and  expect  the

 internal
link
 names to change too.  It doesn't   happen.  Your observation is
correct.
 Acrobat is looking for  the  original file names.

 The solution is to decide on  the final file names  before you save as

 PDF from  Frame.

 Hope this helps.

 Diane   Gaskill
 ==

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 Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:40  AM
 To:  framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Strange PDF  Problem


 Hi  all,

 We are  experiencing a strange pdf problem. We have several Frame  
 books
that
 we create pdf's from. We're using Frame 7.2 and I select  the  Save As
feature
 and  then save as pdf. The problem  happens when we  change the name 
 of the pdf
 file to   anything different than the  name of the book file (with the
.pdf
  extension).  Many of the links in  the index and TOC say that the  
 pdf file does not exist  because it  seems to be  looking for the name

 of the book file (with the
  .pdf   extension) and not the new name of the pdf  file.

 Has anyone else had  this problem?

  Thanks,
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Background with JPEG

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

And we all know how well it works when you leave runarounds turned on.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

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[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:15 AM
To: mathieu jacquet
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Background with JPEG

Well,

No, FM doesn't support transparency. However, you might run into a
disagreement on whether it's broken or not. As whoever you quoted
mentioned, the tradeoff seems to be support for runarounds or
transparency, and they picked runarounds.

Art

On 3/20/07, mathieu jacquet  wrote:
> I come back to what you both said about transparency after reading 
> this technical note by Adobe :
>
> " Transparent Color in Images Is White in FrameMaker
>
> Adobe FrameMaker doesn't support transparency in image files (for 
> example, EPS, TIFF, GIF, or JPEG). When you import an image, 
> FrameMaker maps any transparent pixels to white to enable irregular 
> text runarounds. If FrameMaker did not map transparent areas of images

> to white, text runarounds would not work correctly with the image"
>
> (http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=317850)
>
> So, does FrameMaker support transparency at all or not ? Apparently, 
> versions affected by this technical note are 5.0 to 7.0...WAs it fixed

> with the 7.2 version ?
>
> Thank you for you help,
>
> Mathieu.
>
>
> >From: "Sean Pollock" 
> >To: art.campbell at gmail.com, bobitch at hotmail.com
> >CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> >Subject: Re: Background with JPEG
> >Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:18:06 +
> >
> >
> >
> >EPS with transparency applied always works well if you don't mind the

> >larger file size.
> >
> >--Sean Pollock
> >UGS Corp.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >From:  "Art Campbell" 
> >To:  "mathieu jacquet" 
> >CC:  framers at lists.frameusers.com
> >Subject:  Re: Background with JPEG
> >Date:  Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:50:31 -0500
> > >The short answer is "no," because (besides being a poor choice for 
> > >any publishing use other than www) transparency isn't supported.
> > >
> > >If you have Photoshop or a similar program, you can isolate the 
> > >background from your subject and set it to white and still use
.jpg.
> > >
> > >If you want true transparency, you need to pick a graphic file 
> > >format that supports it: Photoshop's own format, GIF, or another...
> > >
> > >Art
> > >
> > >On 2/27/07, jacquet  wrote:
> > >>Hi
> >all,
> > >>
> > >>when you import jpeg images (pictures of spare parts), is it 
> > >>possible not to have a white or greyish square background appear ?
> > >>
> > >>Do you import in another format or is there a trick to have the 
> > >>background disappear ?
> > >>
> > >>Thank you all,
> > >>
> > >>Mathieu.
> > >>
> > >>_
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> > >Vincent
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Strange PDF Problem

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Nancy,
The only time I've seen the links get destroyed in the way you are
describing is when I chose to create a book with one PDF file per
chapter.
In situations like that, if I were to rename a file, the links to it
would be broken.
But never internal links, and never with a book saved as a single PDF,
with no external links.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

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From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 4:43 PM
To: alan at alphabyte.co.nz
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Strange PDF Problem


Hi Alan,

I get the same results when I do either: change the name after saving,
or putting in a name different than the book name while I'm saving as
pdf.

Nancy


In a message dated 3/20/2007 4:32:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
alan at alphabyte.co.nz writes:

Nancy,

RE: PDF to framemaker

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

I frequently get Word files with embedded graphics from our engineers. The
best way I have found to get the content in Frame has been to save the Word
file as both HTML and TXT. I then extract the graphics from the HTML
graphics folder, import the TXT, and reformat according to our template.
I never try to replicate the format of the Word doc. Since our engineers
rarely use styles, all I ever end up with in the RTF is a bunch of
overrides.
Just my $0.02 worth.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Diane Gaskill
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:03 PM
To: Dov Isaacs; Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker

Embedded graphics in Word do not come across with the text.  In fact, most
RTF files with graphics in them crash the filter.  It simily stops.  After a
few seconds, it displays an error message about not being able to continue.
This happens with anything except very small files (one or two pages).  Yes,
I realize that Word has many problems (ok, it's full of bugs) and that is
one of the reasons we are switching to FM.

Does Adobe have any recommendations for prepping the word file before trying
to import it?  When previoiusly trying to convert files, I've removed all
the graphics and that helped a lot.  But I assume we shouldn't have to do
that if the filter worked as it is supposed to.

Diane

-Original Message-
From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:33 AM
To: Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker


You could/should be a bit more specific about what you mean by Adobe fixing
up the RTF to FM filter. If you are finding bugs, by all means officially
report them!

You should be aware that many of the RTF to anything else
conversion issues do relate to inconsistencies between how Microsoft itself
produces and/or interprets RTF in various versions and releases of Word.
Even within a particular version of Word, you can see discrepancies. Many of
these have to do with character encodings, especially anything other than
base ASCII characters! This is especially true if you are copying text from
old Word documents from times prior to that in which Unicode was supported.

- Dov


 -Original Message-
 From: Diane Gaskill
 Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:29 PM

 Hi all,

 Speaking of converters, I was wondering if Adobe might ever consider 
 fixing up the RTF to FM and FM to RTF filters that come with Frame.  
 Especially the RTF to FM filter.  It would be SO helpful to companies 
 like mine who are about to convert their docsets, including many large 
 manuals (up to 800 pages, believe it or not) from Word to FM.  It 
 would have made the job of convincing management a lot easier to 
 switch to Frame if we didn't have to pay an outside vendor to do this 
 for us.

 Seems like it would be a profitable thing to do, considering that more 
 companies would be likely to by Frame if they had an easy way to get 
 there from Word.

 Diane

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PDF to framemaker

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

I frequently get Word files with embedded graphics from our engineers. The
best way I have found to get the content in Frame has been to save the Word
file as both HTML and TXT. I then extract the graphics from the HTML
graphics folder, import the TXT, and reformat according to our template.
I never try to replicate the format of the Word doc. Since our engineers
rarely use styles, all I ever end up with in the RTF is a bunch of
overrides.
Just my $0.02 worth.

Berny Gagne
Lead Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

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From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Diane Gaskill
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:03 PM
To: Dov Isaacs; Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker

Embedded graphics in Word do not come across with the text.  In fact, most
RTF files with graphics in them crash the filter.  It simily stops.  After a
few seconds, it displays an error message about not being able to continue.
This happens with anything except very small files (one or two pages).  Yes,
I realize that Word has many problems (ok, it's full of bugs) and that is
one of the reasons we are switching to FM.

Does Adobe have any recommendations for prepping the word file before trying
to import it?  When previoiusly trying to convert files, I've removed all
the graphics and that helped a lot.  But I assume we shouldn't have to do
that if the filter worked as it is supposed to.

Diane

-Original Message-
From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isa...@adobe.com]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:33 AM
To: Diane Gaskill; Rick Quatro; framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: PDF to framemaker


You could/should be a bit more specific about what you mean by Adobe "fixing
up the RTF to FM filter." If you are finding bugs, by all means officially
report them!

You should be aware that many of the "RTF to anything else"
conversion issues do relate to inconsistencies between how Microsoft itself
produces and/or interprets RTF in various versions and releases of Word.
Even within a particular version of Word, you can see discrepancies. Many of
these have to do with character encodings, especially anything other than
base ASCII characters! This is especially true if you are copying text from
old Word documents from times prior to that in which Unicode was supported.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Diane Gaskill
> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 7:29 PM
>
> Hi all,
>
> Speaking of converters, I was wondering if Adobe might ever consider 
> fixing up the RTF to FM and FM to RTF filters that come with Frame.  
> Especially the RTF to FM filter.  It would be SO helpful to companies 
> like mine who are about to convert their docsets, including many large 
> manuals (up to 800 pages, believe it or not) from Word to FM.  It 
> would have made the job of convincing management a lot easier to 
> switch to Frame if we didn't have to pay an outside vendor to do this 
> for us.
>
> Seems like it would be a profitable thing to do, considering that more 
> companies would be likely to by Frame if they had an easy way to get 
> there from Word.
>
> Diane

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RE: Any way of applying a custom master page to final even page i n component file

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

One caveat concerning the procedure below. If you happen to have a
multi-page table the default LH master will get applied. It appears the
Apply Master Page function does not recognize paragraph tags present in
tables.
Anyone find out differently? It would solve a problem I've been having.

Berny Gagné
Lead Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 


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Subject: RE: Any way of applying a custom master page to final even page in
component file

Hedley Finger wrote: 

 Occasionally a chapter file ends on a right page (odd-numbered). 
 Because the pagination is set to even number of pages, the default 
 Left master is applied to the final left page (even-numbered) of the 
 chapter.  We would like to apply a special master page devoid of 
 running heads and feet, except for the page number.

Uh oh, we're getting perilously close to an intentionally left blank
thread. Dan Emory, I promise to restrain myself if you will, too! ;-)

Hedley, someone once suggested a bass-ackwards way to do it with master page
mapping. Specify a custom left master page invoked by the presence of any
pgf format. Set up the default Left page the way you want the final left
page to look. If there is no pgf on the page to trigger the custom master
page, FM will use the default. 

I haven't used master page mapping at all, so I can't vouch for the process,
but it sounds like it should work. Whether it's more or less fussy than
using MasterPage Tools or a FrameScript, I can't say. They all sound too
fussy for my tastes, so my empty left pages use the same master page as the
non-empty ones. :-)

HTH!
Richard


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RE: FONT CONUNDRUM

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

 
Hi Michael,

WGL Assistant works great but it also creates font instances labelled as
FONTNAME CYR, FONTNAME Greek, etc. Windows XP created the ones for Arial and
Times New Roman to help non-Unicode compliant apps, like Framemaker, display
and print documents using the non-Latin based glyphs in the font sets.

Berny Gagné
Lead Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

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Stuart Rogers
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:35 AM
To: Michael Zaichenko
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FONT CONUNDRUM

Michael Zaichenko wrote:
 Hello Framers,
 I once already posted this question but never got any sensible answer. 
 Posting it again in hopes someone actually came across a solution to 
 this conundrum.
 XP SP2, FM 7.1 non-structured.
 Unicode fonts like arial, times new roman and courier do not display 
 any other map than Latin. Meaning Arial is one font on a system. In 
 FrameMaker it appears as Arial CYR, Arial Baltic, Arial Greek, Arial 
 TUR, etc. Same for the rest of the mentioned fonts. In theory when one 
 changes it to the needed version the font picks up the needed map and 
 displays say Greek or Baltic characters. When I was on Win2000 this 
 was not an issue - in XP I can't get a stable result. I have about 16 
 different machines and half of them have this problem - others don't.
 All have installations of the same XP system and SP2. Problem seems to 
 stem from Windows itself as I tried practically everything to fix it 
 and be able to use unicode fonts without creating a whole bunch of 
 fonts to replace them. But where it Windows it is I don't know.
 Any thoughts?
 Michael
 P.S. I'm fighting this one for over a year and couldn't come up with 
 anything sensible. Help me out of this misery please
 

You may find a solution with WGL Assistant: http://wgl.typ.pl/

HTH,

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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
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FONT CONUNDRUM

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Michael,

WGL Assistant works great but it also creates font instances labelled as
FONTNAME CYR, FONTNAME Greek, etc. Windows XP created the ones for Arial and
Times New Roman to help non-Unicode compliant apps, like Framemaker, display
and print documents using the non-Latin based glyphs in the font sets.

Berny Gagn?
Lead Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

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From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Stuart Rogers
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:35 AM
To: Michael Zaichenko
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FONT CONUNDRUM

Michael Zaichenko wrote:
> Hello Framers,
> I once already posted this question but never got any sensible answer. 
> Posting it again in hopes someone actually came across a solution to 
> this conundrum.
> XP SP2, FM 7.1 non-structured.
> Unicode fonts like arial, times new roman and courier do not display 
> any other map than Latin. Meaning Arial is one font on a system. In 
> FrameMaker it appears as Arial CYR, Arial Baltic, Arial Greek, Arial 
> TUR, etc. Same for the rest of the mentioned fonts. In theory when one 
> changes it to the needed version the font picks up the needed map and 
> displays say Greek or Baltic characters. When I was on Win2000 this 
> was not an issue - in XP I can't get a stable result. I have about 16 
> different machines and half of them have this problem - others don't.
> All have installations of the same XP system and SP2. Problem seems to 
> stem from Windows itself as I tried practically everything to fix it 
> and be able to use unicode fonts without creating a whole bunch of 
> fonts to replace them. But where it Windows it is I don't know.
> Any thoughts?
> Michael
> P.S. I'm fighting this one for over a year and couldn't come up with 
> anything sensible. Help me out of this misery please
> 

You may find a solution with WGL Assistant: http://wgl.typ.pl/

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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RE: Translation questions

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

 
Hi Alexandra,
Considering the amount of time you've just spent tagging your Frame files
with the changed text, not to mention the amount of correcting you did to
the Spanish files once they were returned by your translator, do you still
think the lowest bidder saved your company any money?
Before my company wised up, we used to send our translators a Frame file
containing only the changes made in our manuals. This was time consuming in
two ways: creating the file and reintegrating the translated text into the
translated manuals. With 18 supported languages it was a full time job for
me.
The idea of having a translation database, or translation memory, is to
identify text that already exists in translated form and separating it from
text requiring localization. In a proper work flow you should never have to
go through what you just did. Did you communicate the corrections to your
translators after the first round of localization? No translator is perfect,
that's why we have our translations proofread by our technicians at our
regional offices. Any corrections they suggest go back to the translators,
and eventually get added to the translation database. There should never be
an issue of an out-of-date translation database unless you flip between two
different translators with different databases. Any changes made to your
manuals have to go back to the translator.
We finally sourced a translation company that makes very efficient use of
translation memory. We send them the complete manuals in native Frame
format, along with all the graphics for the manual. We get back translated
Frame and PDF files ready to print and send along to our customers.
As an aside, if you've made extensive use of generated files (TOC, Index),
autonumbering, cross-references, conditional text, etc. in Frame, I wouldn't
even contemplate migrating all of that to Word. You'll want to slit your
wrists trying to get that piece of ordure to do what Frame does. Just my
two-cents.
Best of luck.

Berny Gagné
Lead Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Alexandra Duffy
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 12:12 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Translation questions

Hello,

FM 6.0 unstructured
ePro WWH 5.0

We recently translated our documentation set (two manuals, about 1,600
pages) into Spanish. This wasn't a very smooth process, but it was
accomplished by sending our .mif files to the translator, who uses TRADOS.
The translator was selected based on the lowest bid.
The translator did create the database files that are used for facilitating
future translation; however, once we got the files back from them, there
were so many errors and changes required that we question the usefulness of
the database files. Our Spanish FrameMaker files are now significantly
different from the files that they gave to us.

Now we are moving on to the next version of our software, and facing
difficulties understanding how to mark what has changed since the last
version, and translate only the new/changed text. What we ended up doing is
comparing our English files in FrameMaker, and, using the CMP files, added
the new/changed text into the Spanish files, marked with a Translation
condition. This was a huge chore. I just KNOW that others do not do it this
way. The managers are not happy with the amount of time this took, and we
aren't happy because it was very tedious.

I have read the white paper about translation that is often mentioned, but
the process is still not clear to me. I don't really know what TRADOS can do
and how the translators use it with .mif files. (The PTBs claim that TRADOS
works *much better* with Word, and why do use FrameMaker anyway?) I also
know that many of you have switched to structured FrameMaker to solve some
translation issues (like these?) but at the moment, switching to structured
with our small, very busy dept.
is cost- and time-prohibitive.

If you are still using unstructured FrameMaker and translating your text
through several versions, I would like to know:

* What your companies do to mark text that has changed? How do you move the
translation up to the next version?
* Can't translators take the latest mif files from you and use TRADOS to
identify what has changed?
* What if the database from the translator is out-of-date? Can't they build
a new one based on new files?
* Is there really a difference in this process (re:TRADOS) if we used Word?

I think we're making this way harder than it needs to be and would
appreciate your input.
Please, can you CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], as I am on the digest.

Thanks,

Alexandra Duffy
Senior Technical Writer
Nemetschek NA
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Translation questions

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Alexandra,
Considering the amount of time you've just spent tagging your Frame files
with the changed text, not to mention the amount of correcting you did to
the Spanish files once they were returned by your translator, do you still
think the lowest bidder saved your company any money?
Before my company wised up, we used to send our translators a Frame file
containing only the changes made in our manuals. This was time consuming in
two ways: creating the file and reintegrating the translated text into the
translated manuals. With 18 supported languages it was a full time job for
me.
The idea of having a translation database, or translation memory, is to
identify text that already exists in translated form and separating it from
text requiring localization. In a proper work flow you should never have to
go through what you just did. Did you communicate the corrections to your
translators after the first round of localization? No translator is perfect,
that's why we have our translations proofread by our technicians at our
regional offices. Any corrections they suggest go back to the translators,
and eventually get added to the translation database. There should never be
an issue of an out-of-date translation database unless you flip between two
different translators with different databases. Any changes made to your
manuals have to go back to the translator.
We finally sourced a translation company that makes very efficient use of
translation memory. We send them the complete manuals in native Frame
format, along with all the graphics for the manual. We get back translated
Frame and PDF files ready to print and send along to our customers.
As an aside, if you've made extensive use of generated files (TOC, Index),
autonumbering, cross-references, conditional text, etc. in Frame, I wouldn't
even contemplate migrating all of that to Word. You'll want to slit your
wrists trying to get that piece of ordure to do what Frame does. Just my
two-cents.
Best of luck.

Berny Gagn?
Lead Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Alexandra Duffy
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 12:12 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Translation questions

Hello,

FM 6.0 unstructured
ePro WWH 5.0

We recently translated our documentation set (two manuals, about 1,600
pages) into Spanish. This wasn't a very smooth process, but it was
accomplished by sending our .mif files to the translator, who uses TRADOS.
The translator was selected based on the lowest bid.
The translator did create the database files that are used for facilitating
future translation; however, once we got the files back from them, there
were so many errors and changes required that we question the usefulness of
the database files. Our Spanish FrameMaker files are now significantly
different from the files that they gave to us.

Now we are moving on to the next version of our software, and facing
difficulties understanding how to mark what has changed since the last
version, and translate only the new/changed text. What we ended up doing is
comparing our English files in FrameMaker, and, using the CMP files, added
the new/changed text into the Spanish files, marked with a Translation
condition. This was a huge chore. I just KNOW that others do not do it this
way. The managers are not happy with the amount of time this took, and we
aren't happy because it was very tedious.

I have read the white paper about translation that is often mentioned, but
the process is still not clear to me. I don't really know what TRADOS can do
and how the translators use it with .mif files. (The PTBs claim that TRADOS
works *much better* with Word, and why do use FrameMaker anyway?) I also
know that many of you have switched to structured FrameMaker to solve some
translation issues (like these?) but at the moment, switching to structured
with our small, very busy dept.
is cost- and time-prohibitive.

If you are still using unstructured FrameMaker and translating your text
through several versions, I would like to know:

* What your companies do to mark text that has changed? How do you move the
translation up to the next version?
* Can't translators take the latest mif files from you and use TRADOS to
identify what has changed?
* What if the database from the translator is out-of-date? Can't they build
a new one based on new files?
* Is there really a difference in this process (re:TRADOS) if we used Word?

I think we're making this way harder than it needs to be and would
appreciate your input.
Please, can you CC: aduffy at nemetschek.net, as I am on the digest.

Thanks,

Alexandra Duffy
Senior Technical Writer
Nemetschek NA
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2 blank pages

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Another possibility I have encountered is disconnected text flows. The tell
tale sing is a lonely "End of flow" marker at the top of the last page (or
sometimes the next-to-last page.

Regards, 

Berny Gagn?
Lead Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

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From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:35 AM
To: Shmuel Wolfson
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: 2 blank pages

Pagination is probably being controlled by the book file... so you checked
the settings for both the Index and the file that follow it?

If you're using Delete Pages to remove the two pages, when are they
reappearing? When you regenerate the Index, Update the book, or some other
time?

If you add a new Index to the book and update, does it also have extra
pages?

Art

On 9/14/06, Shmuel Wolfson  wrote:
> I have an Index with 2 blank pages at the end. I tried every 
> possibility under Pagination, Delete Blank pages, etc. Any ideas?
>
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Importing images from a CAD system

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

I am in the process of educating the engineers I work with over this issue.
They are in the habit of giving me a JPEG image when I request a line
drawing. JPEG was never intended for anything other than continuous tone
images. When a line drawing gets exported to a JPEG, the line quality
suffers horribly.
I ask them to export to CGM, which I import into Adobe Illustrator and
convert to either EPS or leave as a native AI file. The resulting file can
then be imported into Frame just fine and I don't lose on the line quality
or scalability.

Berny Gagn?
Lead Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 


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From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Gillian Flato
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 2:06 PM
To: b_downing at verizon.net; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Importing images from a CAD system

Bill,


The hardware tech writers at my company use Solidworks creations in their
Frame docs. They told me that they don't use the DXF file because they are
so large. Our engineers create them for 11 x 17 paper. They always convert
the DXF file to a high-res JPEG and then import to Frame and scale it down.
So yes, they lose the vector. 


Thanks,

Gillian Flato



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Behalf Of b_downing at verizon.net
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:15 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Importing images from a CAD system

I have a project where I may need to import wireframe images (basically,
perspective line drawings) from a Solidworks CAD system into a Frame 7.0
document. Assuming that vector format will produce the best resolution, has
anyone had any problems importing DXF images directly into Frame? Or is it
better to convert to another format first? 

Thanks,

-Bill Downing
b_downing at verizon.net
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RE: More...Error message: can't rename file. The newer version ha s an odd suffix

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Red,
It may seem obvious, but has anyone checked the file and/or server
permissions to see if you have free and unrestricted access? 

Berny Gagné
Lead Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 


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The red fox
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:12 PM
To: Framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: More...Error message: can't rename file. The newer version has an
odd suffix

More info on this issue.

After much frustration, I tried a few things and have learned that this
issue only happens when I am accessing the files from our network server.  I
tested this by creating a new test book on the server and adding a few
chapters to it.  Same problem.  I then copied the test book directory to my
local hard drive and had no problem.  I was immediately able to save each
chapter.  

At this point, bottom line is I cannot save any files when i am accessing
them from the network server.  I continuously get the below error message.

Also I tried using both FM 6.0 and 7.2.  I have the same problem with both,
so it's not an FM version issue.

I have not worked on these files in about 6 months, but the path to them has
not changed as they have many text insets.  

I cannot imagine what would have changed on our network to cause this.
Anyone have any idea?

My concern is moving the files because of the high number of text insets
with x-ref's!


--- The red fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Framers:
 
 I have numerous FM 6.0 books and I am now using FM7.2.
  Whenever I open/modify and save a file now I get the following 
 message.
 
 'The document was saved to a temporary file, but FrameMaker cannot 
 rename it to have the correct name.
 The newer version has an odd suffix.'
 
 FM is creating suffixes like:  .2A8,  3D7 etc. 
 NOTE: 
 I am not renaming the file, I am just making normal modifications to 
 content and trying to save it.
 
 Anyone know what's going on?  This is a pain in butt!
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 
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More...Error message: can't rename file. The newer version ha s an odd suffix

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Red,
It may seem obvious, but has anyone checked the file and/or server
permissions to see if you have free and unrestricted access? 

Berny Gagn?
Lead Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
The red fox
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 6:12 PM
To: Framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: More...Error message: can't rename file. The newer version has an
odd suffix

More info on this issue.

After much frustration, I tried a few things and have learned that this
issue only happens when I am accessing the files from our network server.  I
tested this by creating a new test book on the server and adding a few
chapters to it.  Same problem.  I then copied the test book directory to my
local hard drive and had no problem.  I was immediately able to save each
chapter.  

At this point, bottom line is I cannot save any files when i am accessing
them from the network server.  I continuously get the below error message.

Also I tried using both FM 6.0 and 7.2.  I have the same problem with both,
so it's not an FM version issue.

I have not worked on these files in about 6 months, but the path to them has
not changed as they have many text insets.  

I cannot imagine what would have changed on our network to cause this.
Anyone have any idea?

My concern is moving the files because of the high number of text insets
with x-ref's!


--- The red fox  wrote:

> Hi Framers:
> 
> I have numerous FM 6.0 books and I am now using FM7.2.
>  Whenever I open/modify and save a file now I get the following 
> message.
> 
> 'The document was saved to a temporary file, but FrameMaker cannot 
> rename it to have the correct name.
> The newer version has an odd suffix.'
> 
> FM is creating suffixes like:  .2A8,  3D7 etc. 
> NOTE: 
> I am not renaming the file, I am just making normal modifications to 
> content and trying to save it.
> 
> Anyone know what's going on?  This is a pain in butt!
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> 
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RE: FIles of old FM versions

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi everyone,
If I'm not mistaken, for that technique to work you must have at least one
document open in Frame. It can be a new blank document.
Regards,

Berny Gagné
Lead Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Peter Gold
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FIles of old FM versions

Hi, Klaus:

Do you see any messages when you try to open the file?

FrameMaker 7.x can read FrameMaker files as far back as 4.x, I believe. 
Your file may be corrupted. One technique that might help is called
OpenHeroic. This bypasses FrameMaker's validation checks that are usually
performed when opening a file. You perform it with these keystrokes:

* Tap and release Escape
* Tap and release lowercase o
* Tap and release uppercase H
* Locate the file in the openFile dialog box.

Klaus Daube wrote:
I came across the problem of opening an FM 5.5.6 file in FM 7 - which
is not
possible. Fortunately the file was short and I could reconstruct it
from its
paper form. Anyhow some content had to be updated.

How to get really old FM versions (set of diskettes)?

With a virtual environment or an old Windows 3.1 machine some
bootstrapping
process should be possible.

Do you know of other means to read an old FM file?

Well there still is the problem of reading it physically (a diskette
format
no more in use, MO disks etc.). I guess that things must be
reconstructed
from printed matter (scan, ocr, ...)

BTW does anyone know the details of the header information? What does
the
letter J in MakerFile 6.0J  denote? FM 7.2 puts MakerFile 7.0H into
the
file.

Thanks for your ideas

Klaus Daube



Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich

Technical documentation  consultancy; On-line and paper

Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78

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FIles of old FM versions

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi everyone,
If I'm not mistaken, for that technique to work you must have at least one
document open in Frame. It can be a new blank document.
Regards,

Berny Gagn?
Lead Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

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From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Peter Gold
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:42 AM
To: frame at daube.ch; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FIles of old FM versions

Hi, Klaus:

Do you see any messages when you try to open the file?

FrameMaker 7.x can read FrameMaker files as far back as 4.x, I believe. 
Your file may be corrupted. One technique that might help is called
"OpenHeroic." This bypasses FrameMaker's validation checks that are usually
performed when opening a file. You perform it with these keystrokes:

* Tap and release Escape
* Tap and release lowercase o
* Tap and release uppercase H
* Locate the file in the openFile dialog box.

Klaus Daube wrote:
>I came across the problem of opening an FM 5.5.6 file in FM 7 - which
is not
>possible. Fortunately the file was short and I could reconstruct it
from its
>paper form. Anyhow some content had to be updated.
>
>How to get really old FM versions (set of diskettes)?
>
>With a virtual environment or an old Windows 3.1 machine some
bootstrapping
>process should be possible.
>
>Do you know of other means to read an old FM file?
>
>Well there still is the problem of reading it physically (a diskette
format
>no more in use, MO disks etc.). I guess that things must be
reconstructed
>from printed matter (scan, ocr, ...)
>
>BTW does anyone know the details of the header information? What does
the
>letter J in   denote? FM 7.2 puts  into
the
>file.
>
>Thanks for your ideas
>
>Klaus Daube
>
>
>
>Docu + Design Daube; Sch??racher 11; CH-8053 Z??rich
>
>Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
>
>Phone:  +41-44-422 86 25  FAX: +41-44-422 82 78
>
>E-mail: ddd at daube.ch  Web: www.daube.ch/
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RE: Changing colors for table rules

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Scott,
You need to edit the ruling styles from the Custom Ruling and Shading menu
(TableCustom Ruling and Shading).
Choose the rule you wish to modify and click the Edit Ruling Style button.
You can edit all the line parameters, including color, from there. You can
even create new rule styles.

Berny Gagné
Lead Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada  


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Scott White
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:46 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Changing colors for table rules

Frame experts:
Is there a way to change the default black colors for table rules and
borders to another color? I would want colors that will print correctly in a
four-color job. I have looked high and low and haven't discovered anything I
can use to do that. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
--
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Media Production Manager
Implentation Coordinator
AlaMark Technologies
210-704-8239
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Changing colors for table rules

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Scott,
You need to edit the ruling styles from the "Custom Ruling and Shading" menu
(Table>Custom Ruling and Shading).
Choose the rule you wish to modify and click the "Edit Ruling Style" button.
You can edit all the line parameters, including color, from there. You can
even create new rule styles.

Berny Gagn?
Lead Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada  


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From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Scott White
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 9:46 AM
To: Framers
Subject: Changing colors for table rules

Frame experts:
Is there a way to change the default black colors for table rules and
borders to another color? I would want colors that will print correctly in a
four-color job. I have looked high and low and haven't discovered anything I
can use to do that. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
--
Scott White
Media Production Manager
Implentation Coordinator
AlaMark Technologies
210-704-8239
swhite at alamark.com


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RE: Help! My postscript file won't distill

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Becky,
Your Frame files wouldn't happen to be referencing any PDFs for graphics,
would they? If one of those is encrypted it could result in the error you're
describing. Then again, is it even possible to use such a file as a graphic?
Anyone?

Berny Gagné
Sr. Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

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Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:17 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Help! My postscript file won't distill

Every time I try to print a Framemaker book to postscript (or save as PDF) I
get the message - This PostScript file was created from an encrypted PDF
file.
Redistilling encrypted PDF is not permitted. 

I have checked all of the security settings and there is no security
settings. What is causing this, and how can I remove the security settings?
Thanks very much for anyone's help!

Becky Frasure
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Help! My postscript file won't distill

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Becky,
Your Frame files wouldn't happen to be referencing any PDFs for graphics,
would they? If one of those is encrypted it could result in the error you're
describing. Then again, is it even possible to use such a file as a graphic?
Anyone?

Berny Gagn?
Sr. Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

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[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Rebecca.L.Frasure at aphis.usda.gov
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:17 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Help! My postscript file won't distill

Every time I try to print a Framemaker book to postscript (or save as PDF) I
get the message - This PostScript file was created from an encrypted PDF
file.
Redistilling encrypted PDF is not permitted. 

I have checked all of the security settings and there is no security
settings. What is causing this, and how can I remove the security settings?
Thanks very much for anyone's help!

Becky Frasure
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RE: Adobe FrameMaker 7.2p158 update: Polnisch, Tschechisch, Slowa kisch!!

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

 
Does anyone here know what Adobe means by Code point correction? We
localize our manuals into several Eastern European languages (Czech, Polish,
Lithuanian, Hungarian), as well as Russian and Greek. Does this mean that
previously problematic character mappings have been fixed?

Berny Gagné
Sr. Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:24 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Adobe FrameMaker 7.2p158 update: Polnisch, Tschechisch,
Slowakisch!!

Hi,

Just for info: There is a new FrameMaker update.
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3332

--
 
Adobe FrameMaker 7.2p158 update for Windows - English, French, German, and
Japanese

This download updates the English, French, German, and Japanese language
versions of Adobe® FrameMaker® 7.2b144 software (released in December
2005) to version 7.2p158.

The FrameMaker 7.2p158 patch for Windows® includes the following
corrections:

* Code point correction providing added support for missing characters on
Cyrillic, Central European, and Baltic code pages for Windows.

* Fixed capability to drag and drop files from Windows Explorer onto the
FrameMaker Book window.

* Various fixes related to Undo, WMF/EMF filter, PDF conversion, DITA, and
XML schema.

* Added limited support for URL paths (e.g., http://...) in import and
export XML workflows for schema. The schema URL will need to map to a local
path (on disk) using the entity catalog file. The syntax for mapping is the
following: SYSTEM http://url...; local path of schema.
Whenever you have an HTTP path for the schema file, FrameMaker will refer to
the local mapped file on the disk and will use this schema file for
processing. This support is not extended to schema in include, import, and
redefine elements. The URL path mapping support should not be used in
import XML fragment workflows.

--

More infos abaout these missing characters:
http://www.itl.de/media/pdf/one-world/One-World-Publishing-V1.2.0-En.pdf
(section 5.3.3 FrameMaker limitations with Eastern European languages)

Best regards

Winfried
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Adobe FrameMaker 7.2p158 update: Polnisch, Tschechisch, Slowa kisch!!

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Does anyone here know what Adobe means by "Code point correction"? We
localize our manuals into several Eastern European languages (Czech, Polish,
Lithuanian, Hungarian), as well as Russian and Greek. Does this mean that
previously problematic character mappings have been fixed?

Berny Gagn?
Sr. Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

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From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Reng, Winfried
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:24 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Adobe FrameMaker 7.2p158 update: Polnisch, Tschechisch,
Slowakisch!!

Hi,

Just for info: There is a new FrameMaker update.
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3332

--

Adobe FrameMaker 7.2p158 update for Windows - English, French, German, and
Japanese

This download updates the English, French, German, and Japanese language
versions of Adobe? FrameMaker? 7.2b144 software (released in December
2005) to version 7.2p158.

The FrameMaker 7.2p158 patch for Windows? includes the following
corrections:

* Code point correction providing added support for missing characters on
Cyrillic, Central European, and Baltic code pages for Windows.

* Fixed capability to drag and drop files from Windows Explorer onto the
FrameMaker Book window.

* Various fixes related to Undo, WMF/EMF filter, PDF conversion, DITA, and
XML schema.

* Added limited support for URL paths (e.g., http://...) in import and
export XML workflows for schema. The schema URL will need to map to a local
path (on disk) using the entity catalog file. The syntax for mapping is the
following: SYSTEM "http://url...; "local path of schema".
Whenever you have an HTTP path for the schema file, FrameMaker will refer to
the local mapped file on the disk and will use this schema file for
processing. This support is not extended to schema in include, import, and
redefine elements. The URL path mapping support should not be used in
"import XML fragment" workflows.

--

More infos abaout these missing characters:
http://www.itl.de/media/pdf/one-world/One-World-Publishing-V1.2.0-En.pdf
(section 5.3.3 "FrameMaker limitations with Eastern European languages")

Best regards

Winfried

RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Personally, I find the whole idea of clicking Start to shutdown somewhat
counter-intuitive, and could somebody tell me why I have to use the
three-finger salute to get my login screen in XP Pro? Once I power up,
what else could I possibly want to do with my computer? It should
automatically default to the login screen.
Just my two-cents' (Canadian) worth.

Berny Gagné
Sr. Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

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Grant Hogarth
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 12:00 PM
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Cc: Free Framers List
Subject: RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

Versionitis strikes again!
A rigorous (and repeated) application of QA is the only known pallative
-- there is no cure.
Grant

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Emory
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:56 AM
To: Framers List
Cc: Free Framers List
Subject: OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

I was helping a friend who'd just acquired her first computer, an E-Machine
with Windows XP.

I was demonstrating how to get help, and showed how she could type in a
search phrase and get a list of all the help topics containing that phrase.
So, to demonstrate how to properly shut down the computer, I entered the
search phrase Turn Off. Sure enough, all the help topics containing that
phrase appeared, and I selected theTurn Off The Computer topic. Here are
the instructions which appeared under that
topic:

Click Start, click Shut Down, and then in the drop-down list click Shut
Down

The only part of that instruction which is correct is Click Start.

o There is no Shut Down option under Start. It's called Turn Off Computer.

o There is no drop-down list under the Turn Off Computer dialog.
Instead, there are 3 buttons.

o There is no button option under Turn Off Computer called Shut Down
Instead there are three button
options: Stand By, Turn Off, and Restart.

Dan Emory  Associates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design  Database Publishing 
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Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Personally, I find the whole idea of clicking "Start" to shutdown somewhat
counter-intuitive, and could somebody tell me why I have to use the
"three-finger salute" to get my login screen in XP Pro? Once I power up,
what else could I possibly want to do with my computer? It should
automatically default to the login screen.
Just my two-cents' (Canadian) worth.

Berny Gagn?
Sr. Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Grant Hogarth
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 12:00 PM
To: Framers List
Cc: Free Framers List
Subject: RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

Versionitis strikes again!
A rigorous (and repeated) application of QA is the only known pallative
-- there is no cure.
Grant

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Emory
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:56 AM
To: Framers List
Cc: Free Framers List
Subject: OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

I was helping a friend who'd just acquired her first computer, an E-Machine
with Windows XP.

I was demonstrating how to get help, and showed how she could type in a
search phrase and get a list of all the help topics containing that phrase.
So, to demonstrate how to properly shut down the computer, I entered the
search phrase "Turn Off." Sure enough, all the help topics containing that
phrase appeared, and I selected the"Turn Off The Computer" topic. Here are
the instructions which appeared under that
topic:

"Click Start, click Shut Down, and then in the drop-down list click Shut
Down"

The only part of that instruction which is correct is "Click Start."

o There is no Shut Down option under Start. It's called "Turn Off Computer."

o There is no drop-down list under the "Turn Off Computer" dialog.
Instead, there are 3 buttons.

o There is no button option under "Turn Off Computer" called "Shut Down"
Instead there are three button
options: "Stand By", "Turn Off", and "Restart."

Dan Emory & Associates 
FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing 

Kerning of space in FrameMaker

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Greg,
This is just a stab in the dark but is FrameMaker capable of recognizing the
modified kerning? FrameMaker is Unicode blind and as such cannot see
anything beyond the standard ANSI 256 characters.
After the registry song and dance I had to do to get it to recognize
Cyrillic and Baltic glyphs in my Myriad Pro fonts, I'm not so sure it's
capable of reading the kerning changes, so it defaults to the standard for
that font.
InDesign and Word, on the other hand, are Unicode savvy, so I'm not
surprised they sees the changes. Is this an OpenType font by any chance?

Berny Gagn?
Sr. Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding Systems
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Typesetting
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:24 PM
To: 'Fred Ridder'
Cc: FrameUsers
Subject: RE: Kerning of space in FrameMaker

Fred, 

Thanks, but I am not talking about the on-screen appearance. I did not know
about this ini file setting, however, what I am referring to is the actual
PDF and hardcopy appearance. 

And it only concerns the space character. Like I add 30 units of kerning
between the f and the space (inside the font with FontLab) and this added
kerning does not show up even if I turn on the kerning pairs in FrameMaker. 

However, this kerning does show up in InDesign or Microsoft Word.

Best, Greg

-Original Message-
From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:37 PM
To: typeset at goldeneraproductions.org
Subject: RE: Kerning of space in FrameMaker

Are you talking about on-sreeen appearance? In hard copy? In PDF?
If the kerning is OK in print and/or PDF, you need to look at the
DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics item in your maker.ini file to see whether it's
equated to Off or On.

Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


>From: "Typesetting" 
>To: "FrameUsers" 
>Subject: Kerning of space in FrameMaker
>Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 10:34:58 -0800
>
>Dear Framers,
>
>I have found (I believe it is) a bug) in FrameMaker in regards to 
>kerning pairs.
>
>I have FontLab and I, for example, kerned two characters which are the 
>f and the space. I did that because the f was "leaning over" to the 
>right and was touching the first letter of the word. For example: "of 
>How" where f touched the H even though there was space entered in 
>between.
>
>So I opened the font and fixed the kerning pair of the f and the space. 
>It looked great.
>
>I install the font and the characters are still crashing. Of course the 
>Pair Kern was turned ON.
>
>Then I checked the same thing in MS Word and InDesign and when the 
>kerning was turned on, the kerning pair I did inside the font was 
>applied and showed up.
>
>But not in FrameMaker.
>
>Does anyone know about this and know how to handle it? Any plug-ins or 
>FrameScript for this?
>
>Any data would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Best, Greg
>

Phantom Images-Frame 7.2

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

I have seen that happen occasionally as well. I discovered that switching to
the reference pages and back to the body pages clears it up.
Don't ask me why...

Berny Gagne 
Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd.
Bolton, Ontario, Canada

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From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
DeFlorio, Dominick
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 1:50 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Phantom Images-Frame 7.2


After deleting, for example, a text box and callout arrow, from an anchored
frame, a phantom image of the object is sometimes left behind.
It is as visually clear as the deleted object.  I know the actual object is
gone, but the phantom image remains.  I've tried "refresh"
(control-L) and saving the document, but can't clear the image(s) until I
close and then reopen the document.  Is there an easier way to clear the
phantom image?

Dominick A. DeFlorio
Senior Technical Writer
Plug Power, Inc.
968 Albany-Shaker Road
Latham, NY 12110
(518) 738-0389

RE: INTERNAL ERROR message

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Murray,
You appear to be the victim of an old and well documented bug. You need to
download a patch at the following address.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1425


Berny Gagne 
Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding systems Ltd
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Murray Moore
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:04 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: INTERNAL ERROR message

I can not open a nine-chapter book.

I respond to the unavailable fonts warning by clicking the OK button.

I respond to the Looking for [missing screen shot] by updating the Document
to Use New Path.

When I click Continue, I see an INTERNAL ERROR message.

Similarly, when I choose Skip This File, and when I choose Ignore All
Missing Files, I also see the same INTERNAL ERROR message.

I am using FrameMaker  SGML Version 6.0p357, XP Pro 2002 SP 2.

The problem is unique to this book

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga Ontario Canada
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INTERNAL ERROR message

[Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)]

Hi Murray,
You appear to be the victim of an old and well documented bug. You need to
download a patch at the following address.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1425


Berny Gagne 
Technical Writer
Husky Injection Molding systems Ltd
Bolton, Ontario, Canada 


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+bgagne=husky...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+bgagne=husky.ca at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Murray Moore
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:04 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: INTERNAL ERROR message

I can not open a nine-chapter book.

I respond to the unavailable fonts warning by clicking the OK button.

I respond to the Looking for [missing screen shot] by updating the Document
to Use New Path.

When I click Continue, I see an INTERNAL ERROR message.

Similarly, when I choose Skip This File, and when I choose Ignore All
Missing Files, I also see the same INTERNAL ERROR message.

I am using FrameMaker & SGML Version 6.0p357, XP Pro 2002 SP 2.

The problem is unique to this book

/\/\
Murray
Mississauga Ontario Canada