Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Thank you! I will try this out and let you know how it goes. Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > On Jan 10, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Reng Winfried > wrote: > > Hi Tammy, > > I just read your post about line breaks. > > What you can do: > In the paragraph designer in the Advanced tab change the Minimum > and Maximum values of your TOC paragraphs: > Minimum 200 % > Maximum 125 % > This will create an automatic line break shortly before the right end of the > lines. > I have this setting for many years now, and only very rarely do I have to add > a manual line break. > You can change the values to get the line break earlier or later. > Just experiment a little bit. > > Best regards > > Winfried > > -Original Message- > From: Framers > On Behalf > Of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 9:26 PM > To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' > > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue > > ... > Right now, when I have lines that don't wrap correctly in my TOC (based on > the length of the text for a tag), I am going through and manually adding the > needed breaks, but of course, this is tedious work and I loathe doing it > every time I produce a final book because either I forget to do it or I miss > a line or two. > > Wasn't there a script "out there somewhere?" that magically did this for you? > > If anyone remembers this script and can point me in the right direction > (other than off a cliff which is what I feel like doing right now), I would > most appreciate it. > > TIA, > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Hi Tammy, I just read your post about line breaks. What you can do: In the paragraph designer in the Advanced tab change the Minimum and Maximum values of your TOC paragraphs: Minimum 200 % Maximum 125 % This will create an automatic line break shortly before the right end of the lines. I have this setting for many years now, and only very rarely do I have to add a manual line break. You can change the values to get the line break earlier or later. Just experiment a little bit. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 9:26 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue ... Right now, when I have lines that don't wrap correctly in my TOC (based on the length of the text for a tag), I am going through and manually adding the needed breaks, but of course, this is tedious work and I loathe doing it every time I produce a final book because either I forget to do it or I miss a line or two. Wasn't there a script "out there somewhere?" that magically did this for you? If anyone remembers this script and can point me in the right direction (other than off a cliff which is what I feel like doing right now), I would most appreciate it. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
This was a very bad decision to have this "functionality." I'm truly amazed that they would think this is a good feature. Having lots of partially broken links in my PDF is not worth whatever they think they are gaining in terms of functionality. If they really think this is such an important feature, they could at least put in an option in the settings to opt out of this feature, and not have broken links. If they make this one change, I'm going to ask my company to pay for a new version, which I haven't done in years. On 17-Dec-21 8:58 PM, [1]r...@rickquatro.com wrote: This is not really a bug but a "feature," at least according to the FrameMaker d ocumentation. I posted some information, including screenshots, on the Adobe For ums. [2]https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker-discussions/broken-toc-links/m-p/12 602277#M73178 Rick -Original Message- From: Framers [3] On B ehalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 1:47 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. [4] Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue Great news! Thanks to Rick! This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA bug, that n eeds formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM [5] wrote: Hi Everyone, OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC). Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the character didn't begin the link, all was OK. Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this little gem anyway. Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience. Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays. TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com [6]www.spectrumwritingllc.com -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. [8] Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem paragraphs, to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try deleting or; hiding the bad ones one with a condition. Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit. Have you tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials, then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide it, to ignore the placeholder, and regen. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < [9]tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . . And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port in a storm. . . Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my rescue in these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear back from him, and learn what the obvious problem it is. . . Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point I’m so frustrated) but not to me! Thanks! Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible [10] wrote: Tammy, I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried everything I would have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation), but as a workaround, can you manually create these links in Acrobat after the fact? To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch... Good luck! -Lise On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < [11]tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: Hi Craig, No there is no difference in the character formatting between these five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC. All the EquationCaption paragraph tags are formatted identically without any overrides or additional character settings. But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely welcome them. Thank you! Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede [12] wrote: Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of these 5 lines being used for the TOC? Craig Ed From: Framers on behalf of [14]tamm...@s
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Is it possible that there is some character formatting that you aren't noticing? Even if by mistake you applied italics to a space in between words it would mess it up. Try selecting the entire heading (in the document, and removing all local formatting.) On 17-Dec-21 5:36 PM, tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com wrote: Hi Craig, No there is no difference in the character formatting between these five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC. All the EquationCaption paragraph tags are formatted identically without any overrides or additional character settings. But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely welcome them. Thank you! Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede wrote: Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of these 5 lines being used for the TOC? Craig Ed From: Framers on behalf of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] TOC issue OK, Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing to solve this issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss. I have a book for which I am generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary paragraph tags for the TOC and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as hyperlinks as they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are deader than a door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries is an active hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is also an active hyperlink. I have done the following: 1. Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it. 2. Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags - the text is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing for them.) 3. Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the book to check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text that was causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions turned on, I still have the issue. 4. Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly above and directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and regenerated and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5 remain stubbornly dead. 5. All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that maybe there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant graphics and regenerated and again, the links are still dead. I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small section in an otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so there's nothing common about this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book as no other sections are giving me this problem. I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc. Regards, TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com> ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Are you saying that we are like the answer to the crossword clue "people who date themselves?" namely, introverts! I love English; it's so precise. :) On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 7:50 PM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > OK so yeah we’re really dating ourselves here on this list. The last > release that Chris had for the ToC Breaker . . . Drumroll please. It was > FrameMaker 11 - yep, you read that right. > > Anyway I’ve already reached out to Rick Quatro and have popped another > idea in his head for another script. > > Thank you everyone once again! > > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > > > On Dec 17, 2021, at 3:21 PM, tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < > tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > > > > Yes, that is the name that I remember! > > Thank you!!! > > > > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > > > >> On Dec 17, 2021, at 3:18 PM, Peter Gold > wrote: > >> > >> Cudspan's "tocbreaker" might be the magic tool. Try a web search. > >> > >>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:06 PM Heiko Haida > wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If you prepare a title text with some nonbreaking spaces (that do not > >>> bother in the place where the title is) according to your idea how this > >>> should look like in the TOC, the text then will always keep together in > >>> the TOC when regenerated. > >>> This may help, or at least may help for most of the lines in the TOC. > >>> > >>> Of course, this is not such a good idea if the text has to be > translated > >>> to other languages where the line breaks have to be set differently. > >>> > >>> Best regards --- Tino H. Haida, Berlin > >>> > >>> tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com: > >>> > >>>> OK, Rick's script saved my bacon yet again, and while I am on a roll, > I > >>>> am gonna' get greedy and ask if someone can refresh the fuzzy recesses > >>>> of my aging mind. > >>>> > >>>> Right now, when I have lines that don't wrap correctly in my TOC > (based > >>>> on the length of the text for a tag), I am going through and manually > >>>> adding the needed breaks, but of course, this is tedious work and I > >>>> loathe doing it every time I produce a final book because either I > >>>> forget to do it or I miss a line or two. > >>>> > >>>> Wasn't there a script "out there somewhere?" that magically did this > >>>> for you? > >>>> > >>>> If anyone remembers this script and can point me in the right > direction > >>>> (other than off a cliff which is what I feel like doing right now), I > >>>> would most appreciate it. > >>>> > >>>> TIA, > >>>> > >>>> TVB > >>>> > >>>> Tammy Van Boening > >>>> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com > >>>> www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1] > >>>> > >>>> -Original Message- > >>>> From: Framers >>>> bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On > >>>> Behalf Of Peter Gold > >>>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:47 AM > >>>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > >>>> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue > >>>> > >>>> Great news! Thanks to Rick! > >>>> > >>>> This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA > >>>> bug, that > >>>> needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks. > >>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Everyone, > >>>> > >>>> OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do > >>>> contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem > >>>> to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago > >>>> and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) > >>>> punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the > >>>> ToC). > >>>> > >>>> Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of > >>>&
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
OK so yeah we’re really dating ourselves here on this list. The last release that Chris had for the ToC Breaker . . . Drumroll please. It was FrameMaker 11 - yep, you read that right. Anyway I’ve already reached out to Rick Quatro and have popped another idea in his head for another script. Thank you everyone once again! Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > On Dec 17, 2021, at 3:21 PM, tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com > wrote: > > Yes, that is the name that I remember! > Thank you!!! > > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > >> On Dec 17, 2021, at 3:18 PM, Peter Gold wrote: >> >> Cudspan's "tocbreaker" might be the magic tool. Try a web search. >> >>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:06 PM Heiko Haida wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> If you prepare a title text with some nonbreaking spaces (that do not >>> bother in the place where the title is) according to your idea how this >>> should look like in the TOC, the text then will always keep together in >>> the TOC when regenerated. >>> This may help, or at least may help for most of the lines in the TOC. >>> >>> Of course, this is not such a good idea if the text has to be translated >>> to other languages where the line breaks have to be set differently. >>> >>> Best regards --- Tino H. Haida, Berlin >>> >>> tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com: >>> >>>> OK, Rick's script saved my bacon yet again, and while I am on a roll, I >>>> am gonna' get greedy and ask if someone can refresh the fuzzy recesses >>>> of my aging mind. >>>> >>>> Right now, when I have lines that don't wrap correctly in my TOC (based >>>> on the length of the text for a tag), I am going through and manually >>>> adding the needed breaks, but of course, this is tedious work and I >>>> loathe doing it every time I produce a final book because either I >>>> forget to do it or I miss a line or two. >>>> >>>> Wasn't there a script "out there somewhere?" that magically did this >>>> for you? >>>> >>>> If anyone remembers this script and can point me in the right direction >>>> (other than off a cliff which is what I feel like doing right now), I >>>> would most appreciate it. >>>> >>>> TIA, >>>> >>>> TVB >>>> >>>> Tammy Van Boening >>>> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com >>>> www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1] >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Framers >>> bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On >>>> Behalf Of Peter Gold >>>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:47 AM >>>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue >>>> >>>> Great news! Thanks to Rick! >>>> >>>> This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA >>>> bug, that >>>> needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks. >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> >>>> OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do >>>> contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem >>>> to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago >>>> and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) >>>> punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the >>>> ToC). >>>> >>>> Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of >>>> the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was >>>> taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the >>>> character didn't begin the link, all was OK. >>>> >>>> Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will >>>> solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user >>>> (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about >>>> this little gem anyway. >>>> Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post >>>> to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn >>>> so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Yes, that is the name that I remember! Thank you!!! Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > On Dec 17, 2021, at 3:18 PM, Peter Gold wrote: > > Cudspan's "tocbreaker" might be the magic tool. Try a web search. > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:06 PM Heiko Haida wrote: >> >> >> >> If you prepare a title text with some nonbreaking spaces (that do not >> bother in the place where the title is) according to your idea how this >> should look like in the TOC, the text then will always keep together in >> the TOC when regenerated. >> This may help, or at least may help for most of the lines in the TOC. >> >> Of course, this is not such a good idea if the text has to be translated >> to other languages where the line breaks have to be set differently. >> >> Best regards --- Tino H. Haida, Berlin >> >> tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com: >> >>> OK, Rick's script saved my bacon yet again, and while I am on a roll, I >>> am gonna' get greedy and ask if someone can refresh the fuzzy recesses >>> of my aging mind. >>> >>> Right now, when I have lines that don't wrap correctly in my TOC (based >>> on the length of the text for a tag), I am going through and manually >>> adding the needed breaks, but of course, this is tedious work and I >>> loathe doing it every time I produce a final book because either I >>> forget to do it or I miss a line or two. >>> >>> Wasn't there a script "out there somewhere?" that magically did this >>> for you? >>> >>> If anyone remembers this script and can point me in the right direction >>> (other than off a cliff which is what I feel like doing right now), I >>> would most appreciate it. >>> >>> TIA, >>> >>> TVB >>> >>> Tammy Van Boening >>> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com >>> www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1] >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Framers >> bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On >>> Behalf Of Peter Gold >>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:47 AM >>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue >>> >>> Great news! Thanks to Rick! >>> >>> This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA >>> bug, that >>> needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks. >>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM wrote: >>> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do >>> contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem >>> to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago >>> and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) >>> punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the >>> ToC). >>> >>> Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of >>> the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was >>> taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the >>> character didn't begin the link, all was OK. >>> >>> Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will >>> solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user >>> (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about >>> this little gem anyway. >>> Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post >>> to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn >>> so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can >>> come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience. >>> >>> Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays. >>> >>> TVB >>> >>> Tammy Van Boening >>> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com >>> www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1] >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Framers >> bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On >>> Behalf Of Peter Gold >>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM >>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue >>> >>> Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem >
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Cudspan's "tocbreaker" might be the magic tool. Try a web search. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 4:06 PM Heiko Haida wrote: > > > If you prepare a title text with some nonbreaking spaces (that do not > bother in the place where the title is) according to your idea how this > should look like in the TOC, the text then will always keep together in > the TOC when regenerated. > This may help, or at least may help for most of the lines in the TOC. > > Of course, this is not such a good idea if the text has to be translated > to other languages where the line breaks have to be set differently. > > Best regards --- Tino H. Haida, Berlin > > tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com: > > > OK, Rick's script saved my bacon yet again, and while I am on a roll, I > > am gonna' get greedy and ask if someone can refresh the fuzzy recesses > > of my aging mind. > > > > Right now, when I have lines that don't wrap correctly in my TOC (based > > on the length of the text for a tag), I am going through and manually > > adding the needed breaks, but of course, this is tedious work and I > > loathe doing it every time I produce a final book because either I > > forget to do it or I miss a line or two. > > > > Wasn't there a script "out there somewhere?" that magically did this > > for you? > > > > If anyone remembers this script and can point me in the right direction > > (other than off a cliff which is what I feel like doing right now), I > > would most appreciate it. > > > > TIA, > > > > TVB > > > > Tammy Van Boening > > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com > > www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1] > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Framers > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On > > Behalf Of Peter Gold > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:47 AM > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > > > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue > > > > Great news! Thanks to Rick! > > > > This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA > > bug, that > > needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks. > > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do > > contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem > > to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago > > and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) > > punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the > > ToC). > > > > Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of > > the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was > > taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the > > character didn't begin the link, all was OK. > > > > Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will > > solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user > > (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about > > this little gem anyway. > > Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post > > to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn > > so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can > > come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience. > > > > Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays. > > > > TVB > > > > Tammy Van Boening > > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com > > www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1] > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Framers > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On > > Behalf Of Peter Gold > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > > > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue > > > > Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem > > paragraphs, to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, > > try > > deleting or; hiding the bad ones one with a condition. > > > > Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit. > > Have you tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book > > materials, > > then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide > > it, to ignore the placeholder, and regen. > > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com <
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
If you prepare a title text with some nonbreaking spaces (that do not bother in the place where the title is) according to your idea how this should look like in the TOC, the text then will always keep together in the TOC when regenerated. This may help, or at least may help for most of the lines in the TOC. Of course, this is not such a good idea if the text has to be translated to other languages where the line breaks have to be set differently. Best regards --- Tino H. Haida, Berlin tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com: OK, Rick's script saved my bacon yet again, and while I am on a roll, I am gonna' get greedy and ask if someone can refresh the fuzzy recesses of my aging mind. Right now, when I have lines that don't wrap correctly in my TOC (based on the length of the text for a tag), I am going through and manually adding the needed breaks, but of course, this is tedious work and I loathe doing it every time I produce a final book because either I forget to do it or I miss a line or two. Wasn't there a script "out there somewhere?" that magically did this for you? If anyone remembers this script and can point me in the right direction (other than off a cliff which is what I feel like doing right now), I would most appreciate it. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1] -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:47 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue Great news! Thanks to Rick! This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA bug, that needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM wrote: Hi Everyone, OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC). Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the character didn't begin the link, all was OK. Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this little gem anyway. Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience. Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays. TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com [1] -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem paragraphs, to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try deleting or; hiding the bad ones one with a condition. Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit. Have you tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials, then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide it, to ignore the placeholder, and regen. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . . And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port in a storm. . . Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my rescue in these frustrating situations, so I'm waiting to hear back from him, and learn what the obvious problem it is. . . Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point I'm so frustrated) but not to me! Thanks! Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible wrote: Tammy, I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried everything I would have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation), but as a workaround, can you manually create these links in Acrobat after the fact? To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch... Good luck! -Lise On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: Hi Craig, No there is no difference in the character formatting between these five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC. All the EquationCaption paragraph tags are
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
OK, Rick's script saved my bacon yet again, and while I am on a roll, I am gonna' get greedy and ask if someone can refresh the fuzzy recesses of my aging mind. Right now, when I have lines that don't wrap correctly in my TOC (based on the length of the text for a tag), I am going through and manually adding the needed breaks, but of course, this is tedious work and I loathe doing it every time I produce a final book because either I forget to do it or I miss a line or two. Wasn't there a script "out there somewhere?" that magically did this for you? If anyone remembers this script and can point me in the right direction (other than off a cliff which is what I feel like doing right now), I would most appreciate it. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com > -Original Message- > From: Framers bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On > Behalf Of Peter Gold > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:47 AM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue > > Great news! Thanks to Rick! > > This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA bug, that > needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks. > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM wrote: > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do > > contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem > > to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago > > and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) > > punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC). > > > > Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of > > the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was > > taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the > > character didn't begin the link, all was OK. > > > > Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will > > solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user > > (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this > little gem anyway. > > > > Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post > > to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn > > so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can > > come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience. > > > > Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays. > > > > TVB > > > > Tammy Van Boening > > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com > > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Framers > > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On > > > Behalf Of Peter Gold > > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM > > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue > > > > > > Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem > > paragraphs, > > > to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try > > > deleting > > or; > > > hiding the bad ones one with a condition. > > > > > > Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit. > > > Have > > you > > > tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials, > > > then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide > > > it, to > > ignore the > > > placeholder, and regen. > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < > > > tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . . > > > > And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port > > > > in a storm. . . > > > > > > > > Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my > > > > rescue in these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear > > > > back from him, and learn what the obvious problem it is. . . > > > > > > > > Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point > > > > I’m so > > > > frustrated) but not to me! > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my i
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Well, besides the obvious typo in that instruction paragraph from Adobe, for whatever reason, it reads in circles to me. At this point, I am calling it good and waiting for my rescue script. Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com > -Original Message- > From: Framers bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On > Behalf Of r...@rickquatro.com > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 11:59 AM > To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' > > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue > > This is not really a bug but a "feature," at least according to the FrameMaker > documentation. I posted some information, including screenshots, on the > Adobe Forums. > > https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker-discussions/broken-toc- > links/m-p/12602277#M73178 > > Rick > > -Original Message- > From: Framers bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Peter > Gold > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 1:47 PM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue > > Great news! Thanks to Rick! > > This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA bug, that > needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks. > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM wrote: > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do > > contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem > > to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago > > and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) > > punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC). > > > > Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of > > the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was > > taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the > > character didn't begin the link, all was OK. > > > > Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will > > solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user > > (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this > little gem anyway. > > > > Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post > > to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn > > so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can > > come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience. > > > > Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays. > > > > TVB > > > > Tammy Van Boening > > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com > > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Framers > > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On > > > Behalf Of Peter Gold > > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM > > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue > > > > > > Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem > > paragraphs, > > > to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try > > > deleting > > or; > > > hiding the bad ones one with a condition. > > > > > > Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit. > > > Have > > you > > > tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials, > > > then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide > > > it, to > > ignore the > > > placeholder, and regen. > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < > > > tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . . > > > > And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port > > > > in a storm. . . > > > > > > > > Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my > > > > rescue in these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear > > > > back from him, and learn what the obvious problem it is. . . > > > > > > > > Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point > > > > I’m so > > > > frustrated) but not to me! > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > >
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
This is not really a bug but a "feature," at least according to the FrameMaker documentation. I posted some information, including screenshots, on the Adobe Forums. https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker-discussions/broken-toc-links/m-p/12602277#M73178 Rick -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 1:47 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue Great news! Thanks to Rick! This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA bug, that needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do > contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem > to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago > and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) > punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC). > > Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of > the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was > taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the > character didn't begin the link, all was OK. > > Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will > solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user > (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this > little gem anyway. > > Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post > to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn > so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can > come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience. > > Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays. > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > > > -Original Message- > > From: Framers > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On > > Behalf Of Peter Gold > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > > > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue > > > > Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem > paragraphs, > > to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try > > deleting > or; > > hiding the bad ones one with a condition. > > > > Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit. > > Have > you > > tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials, > > then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide > > it, to > ignore the > > placeholder, and regen. > > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < > > tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . . > > > And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port > > > in a storm. . . > > > > > > Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my > > > rescue in these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear > > > back from him, and learn what the obvious problem it is. . . > > > > > > Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point > > > I’m so > > > frustrated) but not to me! > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Tammy, > > > > I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried > > > > everything I > > > would > > > > have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation), > > > > but as a workaround, can you manually create these links in > > > > Acrobat after the > > > fact? > > > > To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch... > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > -Lise > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com > > > >> < tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Hi Craig, > > > >> > > > >> No there is no difference in the
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Great news! Thanks to Rick! This is definitely a bug, or at least a documentation omission, AKA bug, that needs formal reporting, Someone please report it. Thanks. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 12:31 PM wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do > contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem to > recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago and > ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) punctuation > characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC). > > Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of the > link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was taught > incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the character didn't > begin the link, all was OK. > > Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will solve > the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user (especially me), > and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this little gem anyway. > > Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post to > this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn so many > little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can come only from > tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience. > > Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays. > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > > > -Original Message- > > From: Framers > bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On > > Behalf Of Peter Gold > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > > > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue > > > > Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem > paragraphs, > > to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try deleting > or; > > hiding the bad ones one with a condition. > > > > Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit. Have > you > > tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials, then > > regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide it, to > ignore the > > placeholder, and regen. > > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < > > tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . . > > > And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port in > > > a storm. . . > > > > > > Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my rescue > > > in these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear back from him, > > > and learn what the obvious problem it is. . . > > > > > > Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point I’m so > > > frustrated) but not to me! > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Tammy, > > > > I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried everything I > > > would > > > > have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation), but as > > > > a workaround, can you manually create these links in Acrobat after > > > > the > > > fact? > > > > To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch... > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > -Lise > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < > > > >> tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Hi Craig, > > > >> > > > >> No there is no difference in the character formatting between these > > > >> five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC. > > > >> > > > >> All the EquationCaption paragraph tags are formatted identically > > > without > > > >> any overrides or additional character settings. > > > >> > > > >> But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely > > > >> welcome them. > > > >> > > > >> Thank you! > > > >> > > > >> Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. >
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Hi Everyone, OK, as someone asked offlist, yes, some of these equation titles do contain non-alphanumeric characters. .. (Their response to my: I seem to recall that I ran up against a similar problem about 15 years ago and ultimately tracked it down to prohibited (but not documented) punctuation characters in the headings that weren't appearing in the ToC). Other ones do contain a character formatting change in the middle of the link (not at the beginning as Craig asked), so I obviously was taught incorrectly or remember incorrectly that as long as the character didn't begin the link, all was OK. Long story short - Rick Quatro is going to revamp a script that will solve the issue and save the day yet again for another FM user (especially me), and I can stop banging my head on the wall - about this little gem anyway. Thank you everyone for your responses. Every single time that I post to this list, I not only get the answer that I need but I also learn so many little tidbits and extra gems of knowledge about FM that can come only from tribal knowledge and everyone's years of experience. Have safe, healthy, and happy holidays. TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com > -Original Message- > From: Framers bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc@lists.frameusers.com> On > Behalf Of Peter Gold > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 10:26 AM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > Subject: Re: [Framers] TOC issue > > Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem paragraphs, > to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try deleting or; > hiding the bad ones one with a condition. > > Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit. Have you > tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials, then > regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide it, to ignore > the > placeholder, and regen. > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < > tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > > > > > > > What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . . > > And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port in > > a storm. . . > > > > Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my rescue > > in these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear back from him, > > and learn what the obvious problem it is. . . > > > > Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point I’m so > > frustrated) but not to me! > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > > > > > On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible > wrote: > > > > > > Tammy, > > > I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried everything I > > would > > > have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation), but as > > > a workaround, can you manually create these links in Acrobat after > > > the > > fact? > > > To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch... > > > > > > Good luck! > > > -Lise > > > > > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < > > >> tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Craig, > > >> > > >> No there is no difference in the character formatting between these > > >> five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC. > > >> > > >> All the EquationCaption paragraph tags are formatted identically > > without > > >> any overrides or additional character settings. > > >> > > >> But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely > > >> welcome them. > > >> > > >> Thank you! > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > > >> > > >>>> On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of > > >>> these 5 > > >> lines being used for the TOC? > > >>> > > >>> Craig Ed > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> From: Framers > hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> > > >> on behalf of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com < > > >> tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> > > >>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM > > >>> To:
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Have you tried duplicating, by copying and pasting the problem paragraphs, to see if they retain the problem gremlins? If they don't, try deleting or; hiding the bad ones one with a condition. Perhaps the problem material falls on some kind of border or limit. Have you tried creating a placeholder chapter ahead of the book materials, then regenerating? If that fixes it, resett the numberings or hide it, to ignore the placeholder, and regen. On Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 10:55 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > > > What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . . > And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port in a > storm. . . > > Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my rescue in > these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear back from him, and > learn what the obvious problem it is. . . > > Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point I’m so > frustrated) but not to me! > > Thanks! > > > > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > > > On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible wrote: > > > > Tammy, > > I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried everything I > would > > have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation), but as a > > workaround, can you manually create these links in Acrobat after the > fact? > > To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch... > > > > Good luck! > > -Lise > > > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < > >> tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Craig, > >> > >> No there is no difference in the character formatting between these five > >> entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC. > >> > >> All the EquationCaption paragraph tags are formatted identically > without > >> any overrides or additional character settings. > >> > >> But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely welcome > >> them. > >> > >> Thank you! > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > >> > >>>> On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede wrote: > >>> > >>> Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of these 5 > >> lines being used for the TOC? > >>> > >>> Craig Ed > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Framers hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> > >> on behalf of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com < > >> tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> > >>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM > >>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > >>> Subject: [Framers] TOC issue > >>> > >>> OK, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing to solve > >> this > >>> issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss. I have a book for which I am > >>> generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary paragraph tags for the > >> TOC > >>> and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as hyperlinks > >> as > >>> they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are deader > >> than a > >>> door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries is an > >> active > >>> hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is also an > active > >>> hyperlink. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I have done the following: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 1. Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it. > >>> 2. Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags - the > >> text > >>> is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing for > them.) > >>> 3. Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the book > to > >>> check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text that was > >>> causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions turned on, I still > have > >>> the issue. > >>> 4. Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly above > >> and > >>> directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and > >> regenerated > >>> and the tag above and bel
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
What I NEED to do is just punt this project. . . And yes I agree with you I should not have to do that but any port in a storm. . . Rick Quatro wants to look at the TOC and he always rides to my rescue in these frustrating situations, so I’m waiting to hear back from him, and learn what the obvious problem it is. . . Well, obvious to him (and probably everybody else at this point I’m so frustrated) but not to me! Thanks! Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Lise Bible wrote: > > Tammy, > I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried everything I would > have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation), but as a > workaround, can you manually create these links in Acrobat after the fact? > To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch... > > Good luck! > -Lise > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < >> tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Craig, >> >> No there is no difference in the character formatting between these five >> entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC. >> >> All the EquationCaption paragraph tags are formatted identically without >> any overrides or additional character settings. >> >> But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely welcome >> them. >> >> Thank you! >> >> Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. >> >>>> On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede wrote: >>> >>> Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of these 5 >> lines being used for the TOC? >>> >>> Craig Ed >>> >>> ____________ >>> From: Framers >> on behalf of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com < >> tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> >>> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM >>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >>> Subject: [Framers] TOC issue >>> >>> OK, >>> >>> >>> >>> Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing to solve >> this >>> issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss. I have a book for which I am >>> generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary paragraph tags for the >> TOC >>> and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as hyperlinks >> as >>> they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are deader >> than a >>> door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries is an >> active >>> hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is also an active >>> hyperlink. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have done the following: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it. >>> 2. Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags - the >> text >>> is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing for them.) >>> 3. Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the book to >>> check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text that was >>> causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions turned on, I still have >>> the issue. >>> 4. Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly above >> and >>> directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and >> regenerated >>> and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5 remain >>> stubbornly dead. >>> 5. All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that maybe >>> there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant graphics and >>> regenerated and again, the links are still dead. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small section in an >>> otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so there's nothing common about >>> this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book as no other >>> sections are giving me this problem. >>> >>> >>> >>> I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> TVB >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Tammy Van Boening >>> >>> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com >>> >>> www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumw
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Yup. Sigh. Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > On Dec 17, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Mike Wickham wrote: > > Have you tried a MIF wash? > > Mike Wickham > >> On 12/17/2021 8:48 AM, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote: >> OK, >> >> >> Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing to solve this >> issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss. I have a book for which I am >> generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary paragraph tags for the TOC >> and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as hyperlinks as >> they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are deader than a >> door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries is an active >> hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is also an active >> hyperlink. >> >> >> I have done the following: >> >> >> 1.Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it. >> 2.Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags - the text >> is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing for them.) >> 3.Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the book to >> check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text that was >> causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions turned on, I still have >> the issue. >> 4.Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly above and >> directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and regenerated >> and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5 remain >> stubbornly dead. >> 5.All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that maybe >> there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant graphics and >> regenerated and again, the links are still dead. >> >> >> I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small section in an >> otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so there's nothing common about >> this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book as no other >> sections are giving me this problem. >> >> >> I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> TVB >> >> >> >> >> Tammy Van Boening >> >> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com >> >> www.spectrumwritingllc.com >> >> >> ___ >> >> This message is from the Framers mailing list >> >> Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >> Archives located at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >> Subscribe and unsubscribe at >> http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Have you tried a MIF wash? Mike Wickham On 12/17/2021 8:48 AM, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote: OK, Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing to solve this issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss. I have a book for which I am generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary paragraph tags for the TOC and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as hyperlinks as they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are deader than a door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries is an active hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is also an active hyperlink. I have done the following: 1. Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it. 2. Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags - the text is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing for them.) 3. Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the book to check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text that was causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions turned on, I still have the issue. 4. Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly above and directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and regenerated and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5 remain stubbornly dead. 5. All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that maybe there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant graphics and regenerated and again, the links are still dead. I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small section in an otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so there's nothing common about this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book as no other sections are giving me this problem. I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc. Regards, TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Tammy, I have no Frame advice to offer (I am sure you've tried everything I would have tried, and I'd be equally frustrated in your situation), but as a workaround, can you manually create these links in Acrobat after the fact? To be clear, you shouldn't HAVE to do this, but in a pinch... Good luck! -Lise On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 9:36 AM tammyvb spectrumwritingllc.com < tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > Hi Craig, > > No there is no difference in the character formatting between these five > entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC. > > All the EquationCaption paragraph tags are formatted identically without > any overrides or additional character settings. > > But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely welcome > them. > > Thank you! > > Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > > > On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede wrote: > > > > Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of these 5 > lines being used for the TOC? > > > > Craig Ed > > > > > > From: Framers > on behalf of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com < > tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> > > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM > > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Subject: [Framers] TOC issue > > > > OK, > > > > > > > > Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing to solve > this > > issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss. I have a book for which I am > > generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary paragraph tags for the > TOC > > and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as hyperlinks > as > > they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are deader > than a > > door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries is an > active > > hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is also an active > > hyperlink. > > > > > > > > I have done the following: > > > > > > > > 1. Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it. > > 2. Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags - the > text > > is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing for them.) > > 3. Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the book to > > check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text that was > > causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions turned on, I still have > > the issue. > > 4. Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly above > and > > directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and > regenerated > > and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5 remain > > stubbornly dead. > > 5. All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that maybe > > there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant graphics and > > regenerated and again, the links are still dead. > > > > > > > > I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small section in an > > otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so there's nothing common about > > this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book as no other > > sections are giving me this problem. > > > > > > > > I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > TVB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tammy Van Boening > > > > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com > > > > www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com> > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > ___ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/list
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Hi Craig, No there is no difference in the character formatting between these five entries and any of the other same type of entries in the TOC. All the EquationCaption paragraph tags are formatted identically without any overrides or additional character settings. But if you have any other ideas or thoughts I would definitely welcome them. Thank you! Sent from my iPhone. Blame Steve Jobs for any typos. > On Dec 17, 2021, at 8:23 AM, Craig Ede wrote: > > Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of these 5 lines > being used for the TOC? > > Craig Ed > > > From: Framers on > behalf of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: [Framers] TOC issue > > OK, > > > > Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing to solve this > issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss. I have a book for which I am > generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary paragraph tags for the TOC > and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as hyperlinks as > they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are deader than a > door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries is an active > hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is also an active > hyperlink. > > > > I have done the following: > > > > 1. Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it. > 2. Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags - the text > is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing for them.) > 3. Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the book to > check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text that was > causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions turned on, I still have > the issue. > 4. Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly above and > directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and regenerated > and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5 remain > stubbornly dead. > 5. All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that maybe > there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant graphics and > regenerated and again, the links are still dead. > > > > I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small section in an > otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so there's nothing common about > this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book as no other > sections are giving me this problem. > > > > I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc. > > > > Regards, > > > > TVB > > > > > > > > Tammy Van Boening > > Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com > > www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com> > > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] TOC issue
Is there any kind of character formatting at the beginning of these 5 lines being used for the TOC? Craig Ed From: Framers on behalf of tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 8:48 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] TOC issue OK, Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing to solve this issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss. I have a book for which I am generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary paragraph tags for the TOC and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as hyperlinks as they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are deader than a door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries is an active hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is also an active hyperlink. I have done the following: 1. Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it. 2. Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags - the text is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing for them.) 3. Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the book to check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text that was causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions turned on, I still have the issue. 4. Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly above and directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and regenerated and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5 remain stubbornly dead. 5. All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that maybe there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant graphics and regenerated and again, the links are still dead. I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small section in an otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so there's nothing common about this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book as no other sections are giving me this problem. I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc. Regards, TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com<http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com> ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] TOC issue
OK, Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing to solve this issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss. I have a book for which I am generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary paragraph tags for the TOC and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as hyperlinks as they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are deader than a door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries is an active hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is also an active hyperlink. I have done the following: 1. Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it. 2. Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags - the text is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing for them.) 3. Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the book to check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text that was causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions turned on, I still have the issue. 4. Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly above and directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and regenerated and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5 remain stubbornly dead. 5. All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that maybe there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant graphics and regenerated and again, the links are still dead. I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small section in an otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so there's nothing common about this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book as no other sections are giving me this problem. I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc. Regards, TVB Tammy Van Boening Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com www.spectrumwritingllc.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com