Re: How To Burn CDs

1999-08-21 Thread David O'Brien

 "Another possibility, if you have the RAM, is to use the team(1)
 program (it's in the ports) to buffer the data as it goes to the burner.

Any reason not to use ``cdrecord -fs=64m'' (or some simular size)

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Re: How To Burn CDs

1999-08-21 Thread David O'Brien

On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 01:04:47PM +0200, Werner Griessl wrote:

Werner, like you we all got 246 line email message.  You did not have to
quote the *ENTIRE* thing back to us just to add 3 lines.

If you don't have the time to trim, we don't have the time to read your
reply.
 
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Re: How To Burn CDs

1999-08-21 Thread Amancio Hasty

If you have the physical memory sure however if you don't then 
you will start swapping and most likely your cd recording will
fail.

Hence my recommendation for a small size buffer. 

And to the list.

Please keep the comments or suggestions rolling and hopefully
by early next we will have a nice "How To Burn CD " document.

Cheers


  "Another possibility, if you have the RAM, is to use the team(1)
  program (it's in the ports) to buffer the data as it goes to the burner.
 
 Any reason not to use ``cdrecord -fs=64m'' (or some simular size)
 
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Re: How To Burn CDs

1999-08-21 Thread Amancio Hasty

If you don't have the time to trim, we don't have the time to read your

Easy , Easy we are coming along fine so far so please keep 
the flame temperature down. If you are compelled or annoyed
at the poster send him private e-mail and possibly a pointer
to net - etiguette. If you do it nicely you may actually make
a long term friend ...

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Re: How To Burn CDs

1999-08-21 Thread David O'Brien

 If you have the physical memory sure however if you don't then 
 you will start swapping and most likely your cd recording will
 fail.
 
 Hence my recommendation for a small size buffer. 

Then there is no advantage in using `team' vs. ``cdrecord -fs=XX'', right?

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Re: How To Burn CDs

1999-08-21 Thread Wilko Bulte

As David O'Brien wrote ...
  "Another possibility, if you have the RAM, is to use the team(1)
  program (it's in the ports) to buffer the data as it goes to the burner.
 
 Any reason not to use ``cdrecord -fs=64m'' (or some simular size)

Any reason to? I mean, I never had to go over the default cdrecord
uses. But I only have a 2x writer and I generally create an iso image
file first.

YMMV

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Re: How To Burn CDs

1999-08-21 Thread David O'Brien

   "Another possibility, if you have the RAM, is to use the team(1)
   program (it's in the ports) to buffer the data as it goes to the burner.
  
  Any reason not to use ``cdrecord -fs=64m'' (or some simular size)
 
 Any reason to? I mean, I never had to go over the default cdrecord uses. 

Since the author was already suggesting the use of team(1) he obvisiously
wants a larger buffer.  I was mearly asking if there was something about
team(1) better than ``cdrecord -fs=XX''.

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Re: How To Burn CDs

1999-08-21 Thread Amancio Hasty

 Then there is no advantage in using `team' vs. ``cdrecord -fs=XX'', right?
 
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As far as I can tell there is no difference other one component less to use
and ease of use.


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Re: How To Burn CDs

1999-08-21 Thread Amancio Hasty

"Another possibility, if you have the RAM, is to use the team(1)
program (it's in the ports) to buffer the data as it goes to the burner.
   
   Any reason not to use ``cdrecord -fs=64m'' (or some simular size)
  
  Any reason to? I mean, I never had to go over the default cdrecord uses. 
 
 Since the author was already suggesting the use of team(1) he obvisiously
 wants a larger buffer.  I was mearly asking if there was something about
 team(1) better than ``cdrecord -fs=XX''.
 

To  me in the context of cdrecord, cdrecord's option "fs" and team are
about the same. Perhaps someone more  familiar with cdrecord fifo.c's 
circular buffer algorithm and team can express a different opinion.

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How To Burn CDs

1999-08-20 Thread Amancio Hasty

This is a summary of the information that I gather over the last 
few days with respect to CD recorders.


It appears that the preferred and better supported CD recorders are
scsi . To shorten the gap what is needed is for ATAPI cd recorders
to be integrated into CAM so that we may present a unified interface
to both ATAPI and SCSI CD drives. Post on -hackers if you are 
interested in working on such a project.



The rest of this document will deal with scsi cd recorders.


Software Tools :

cdrecord is used to  burn the CDs . cdrecord http home:
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdr
ecord.htm

cdrecord supports CD-R, CD-RW and Audio CD (Red Book) formants.

cdda2wav which is now bundled with cdrecord can extract audio CD tracks.

 cdrecord is part of the ports/sysutils collection.


toshais another scsi tool to extract CD audio tracks and it is
   in the ports/audio directory . tosha is native program to 
   FreeBSD. tosha was written by Oliver Fromme  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

cdd  another native freebsd program to extract CD audio tracks was
   written by Charles Henrich and is 
   part of the ports/audio collection.

mkisofs  is used to create an iso 9660 cd image. It is located 
 in the ports/sysutils collection


If one of the audio "rippers" does not work report the problem after
first making sure that the program does indeed support your
CD disk unit and then just try another one.


For a list of "reported to work" drives that work with cdrecord + cdd2wav see:
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cdw
riters-1.8.html

External vs. Internal I find that my YAMAHA CRW6416sz scsi cd 
recorder runs rather cool . Some members on the list have reported
that at least early models of their CD-Recorders run hot so they preferred
to have them external due to the heat problem and/or portability .



A little bit on cdrecord.

To determine which scsi recorder is installed in your system issue:

cdrecorder -scanbus

Cdrecord release 1.8a22 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling
scsibus0:
  0) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST34501W' '0017' Disk
  1) 'YAMAHA  ' 'CRW6416S' '1.0b' Removable CD-ROM
  2) *
  3) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST15150W' '0023' Disk
  4) *
  5) *
  6) *
  7) *
scsibus1:
100) *
101) *
102) *
103) *
104) *
105) 'UMAX' 'UMAX S-12   ' 'V2.0' Scanner
106) *
107) *

So my Yamaha CD recorder is scsi bus 0 , scsi address 1, lun 0.

I recommend sticking this information in /etc/default/record
cat /etc/default/cdrecord 
CDR_DEVICE=1,0

What this means is that every time that cdrecord runs it 
gets is device info from /etc/default/cdrecord .

If you feel somehow compel to always specify the scsi device in
cdrecord, the syntax is: -dev=bus,scsi address, lun or
  -dev=scsi address, lun

in my case is:

-dev=1,0 (the default scsi bus is 0)




I recommend for the first few times to use a CD-RW. They 
are more expensive than CD-R;however, for playing for the first
time with your scsi cd recorder they can actually probably
save you a lot of money.



Now that you have all your hardware and software in place what can you do 8)

To create an iso cd9660 with a CD-RW:
 mkisofs -R /mount/dir | cdrecord -blank=fast -v fs=6m speed=3 -

mkisofs pipes an ISO 9660 cd image to cdrecord.

cdrecord does the actual cd burning:
-blank=fastfirst it does a quick blank
-v verbose mode so you can see what is doing
fs=6m  forks a process and uses a 6MB buffer 
speed=3usually CD-RW can only be burned 
   as fast as 4X you will have to experiment
   with your cd recorder to see what speed
   works best.

Take a break pending upon the size of the image the process
can take 1/2 hour to just a few minutes so kick back and relax.


Here is session for creating audio cds.

mkdir cdtracks
cd cdtracks

cddwa2wav -B

This command generates tracks in the format of:
audio_nn.wav where nn is a track number . audio in .wav format
audio_nn.inf where nn is a track number . pregap info 



cdrecord -blank=fast -audio -useinfo audio*.wav

-blank=fast   blanks your CD-RW for CD-R don't include
  this command
-audiosets audio cd recording
-useinfo  use the pregap info generated by cdd2wav 
  *.inf files

Issues:

In the list there was an exchange of using the tool team for 
buffering vs cdrecord's own buffering scheme:

"Another possibility, if you have the RAM, is to use the team(1)
program 

RE: How To Burn CDs

1999-08-20 Thread Werner Griessl


On 20-Aug-99 Amancio Hasty wrote:
 This is a summary of the information that I gather over the last 
 few days with respect to CD recorders.
 
 
 It appears that the preferred and better supported CD recorders are
 scsi . To shorten the gap what is needed is for ATAPI cd recorders
 to be integrated into CAM so that we may present a unified interface
 to both ATAPI and SCSI CD drives. Post on -hackers if you are 
 interested in working on such a project.
 
 
 
 The rest of this document will deal with scsi cd recorders.
 
 
 Software Tools :
 
 cdrecord is used to  burn the CDs . cdrecord http home:
 http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cd
 r
 ecord.htm
 
   cdrecord supports CD-R, CD-RW and Audio CD (Red Book) formants.
 
 cdda2wav which is now bundled with cdrecord can extract audio CD tracks.
 
cdrecord is part of the ports/sysutils collection.
 
 
 toshais another scsi tool to extract CD audio tracks and it is
in the ports/audio directory . tosha is native program to 
FreeBSD. tosha was written by Oliver Fromme  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 cdd  another native freebsd program to extract CD audio tracks was
written by Charles Henrich and is 
part of the ports/audio collection.
 
 mkisofs  is used to create an iso 9660 cd image. It is located 
in the ports/sysutils collection
 
 
 If one of the audio "rippers" does not work report the problem after
 first making sure that the program does indeed support your
 CD disk unit and then just try another one.
 
 
 For a list of "reported to work" drives that work with cdrecord + cdd2wav
 see:
 http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/cd
 w
 riters-1.8.html
 
 External vs. Internal I find that my YAMAHA CRW6416sz scsi cd 
 recorder runs rather cool . Some members on the list have reported
 that at least early models of their CD-Recorders run hot so they preferred
 to have them external due to the heat problem and/or portability .
 
 
 
 A little bit on cdrecord.
 
 To determine which scsi recorder is installed in your system issue:
 
 cdrecorder -scanbus
 
 Cdrecord release 1.8a22 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling
 scsibus0:
   0) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST34501W' '0017' Disk
   1) 'YAMAHA  ' 'CRW6416S' '1.0b' Removable CD-ROM
   2) *
   3) 'SEAGATE ' 'ST15150W' '0023' Disk
   4) *
   5) *
   6) *
   7) *
 scsibus1:
 100) *
 101) *
 102) *
 103) *
 104) *
 105) 'UMAX' 'UMAX S-12   ' 'V2.0' Scanner
 106) *
 107) *
 
 So my Yamaha CD recorder is scsi bus 0 , scsi address 1, lun 0.
 
 I recommend sticking this information in /etc/default/record
 cat /etc/default/cdrecord 
 CDR_DEVICE=1,0
 
 What this means is that every time that cdrecord runs it 
 gets is device info from /etc/default/cdrecord .
 
 If you feel somehow compel to always specify the scsi device in
 cdrecord, the syntax is: -dev=bus,scsi address, lun or
 -dev=scsi address, lun
 
 in my case is:
 
 -dev=1,0 (the default scsi bus is 0)
 
 
 
 
 I recommend for the first few times to use a CD-RW. They 
 are more expensive than CD-R;however, for playing for the first
 time with your scsi cd recorder they can actually probably
 save you a lot of money.
 
 
 
 Now that you have all your hardware and software in place what can you do 8)
 
 To create an iso cd9660 with a CD-RW:
  mkisofs -R /mount/dir | cdrecord -blank=fast -v fs=6m speed=3 -
 
 mkisofs pipes an ISO 9660 cd image to cdrecord.
 
 cdrecord does the actual cd burning:
   -blank=fastfirst it does a quick blank
   -v verbose mode so you can see what is doing
   fs=6m  forks a process and uses a 6MB buffer 
   speed=3usually CD-RW can only be burned 
  as fast as 4X you will have to experiment
with your cd recorder to see what speed
  works best.
 
 Take a break pending upon the size of the image the process
 can take 1/2 hour to just a few minutes so kick back and relax.
 
 
 Here is session for creating audio cds.
 
 mkdir cdtracks
 cd cdtracks
 
 cddwa2wav -B
 
 This command generates tracks in the format of:
 audio_nn.wav where nn is a track number . audio in .wav format
 audio_nn.inf where nn is a track number . pregap info 
 
 
 
 cdrecord -blank=fast -audio -useinfo audio*.wav
 
   -blank=fast   blanks your CD-RW for CD-R don't include
 this command
 -audiosets audio cd recording
   -useinfo  use the pregap info generated by cdd2wav 
 *.inf files
 
 Issues:
 
 In the list 

Re: How To Burn CDs

1999-08-20 Thread Mikhail A. Sokolov

On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 01:04:47PM +0200, Werner Griessl wrote:
# 
# Don't forget cdrdao, it's able to read and burn "video(cdi)"-cd's.
# Successfully done here with a philips cdr2600 burner for a philips cdi player.
# It's also in ports.

From what I recall, tosha's been able to deal with vcd's as well, it's just they
usually start from track 2.

# Werner

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