Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
I finally got everything set up as far as having my vt220 being my console and being able to drop into DDB by hitting the break key. It turns out that as part of my setup I was using MFS for /tmp. When I did a CVSup and make world on the 29th, I decided to comment out the MFS mount point. I have not had a hang since then. So the question is are there known problems with MFS? -Reggie Alfred == Alfred Perlstein bri...@hotjobs.com writes: On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Reginald S. Perry wrote: I have been having these X lockups with the linux netscape 4.5 running. I may have exacerbated it when I installed the linux realplayer and macromedia flash plugins. I would like to have a methodology to help debug this, but I have just this one system to use as the debug system. I do also have a vt220 which I could set up if that would help. The key here is that for me it locks the system up completely. I cannot telnet in remotely and the ctrl-alt-esc key sequence does not work so its unclear to me how to debug this. Tell me what I would need to help debug it, and I will try to be of some help. Ill attach my dmesg output. -Reggie options DDB options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER #a BREAK on a comconsole goes to options INVARIANTS options INVARIANT_SUPPORT device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 flags 0x30 tty irq 3 vector siointr my 'sio2' is setup with special flags to make it always be the consol. look in lint for more hints. when the machine locks: send a break: if on vt220: F5 using tip/cu: ~% take a look at 'ps' and copy it down to see what's up. you may also want to enable crash dumps, look in rc.conf and set your 'dumpdevice' to your swap partition. then you can type 'panic' and get a core image of the system to look at. on the next reboot you can 'kdb' the kernel and then type 'bt' to get a backtrace. i have a vt320 for vanity purposes :), but i suggest you use a serial line into an xterm on another box if you can, ddb isn't the nicest interface and being able to cut and paste in and out of ddb in an xterm is nice. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:46:18 +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: Yer kidding right? A program that _needs_ 100 MB or more? Surely yer kidding... I haven't seen a program in normal corporate/home use that justifies the memory usage of 100 MB or more including NetScape's Navigator/Communicator. You haven't had to provide an ISP-grade news or proxy service yet, have you? :-) Ignoring that comment, since I assume you meant I haven't seen an end-user application in..., it _is_ conceivable that the way Netscape keeps track of its cache _does_ mean an inevitable requirement for enormous amounts of memory. I still don't think we're getting any closer to the question Why is Netscape unstable on CURRENT when it worked fine for me on STABLE? The problem seems to be that those who know enough to offer a useful answer don't seem to be seeing the instability reported. So if this thread isn't going to be dropped, the focus should probably be shifted to What information should we request from people who have this problem? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:46:18 +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: Yer kidding right? A program that _needs_ 100 MB or more? Surely yer kidding... I haven't seen a program in normal corporate/home use that justifies the memory usage of 100 MB or more including NetScape's Navigator/Communicator. You haven't had to provide an ISP-grade news or proxy service yet, have you? :-) Ignoring that comment, since I assume you meant I haven't seen an end-user application in..., it _is_ conceivable that the way Netscape keeps track of its cache _does_ mean an inevitable requirement for enormous amounts of memory. I still don't think we're getting any closer to the question Why is Netscape unstable on CURRENT when it worked fine for me on STABLE? The problem seems to be that those who know enough to offer a useful answer don't seem to be seeing the instability reported. So if this thread isn't going to be dropped, the focus should probably be shifted to What information should we request from people who have this problem? Ciao, Sheldon. If you have Netscape problems, it would be worthwhile to try removing -DVM_STACK from src/sys/compile/BLAH/Makefile and doing a make clean all install. I am pretty certain this is the cause of Netscape crashing, at least on startup... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message Brian Feldman_ __ ___ ___ ___ gr...@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ _ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 10:20:14AM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: I still don't think we're getting any closer to the question Why is Netscape unstable on CURRENT when it worked fine for me on STABLE? The problem seems to be that those who know enough to offer a useful answer don't seem to be seeing the instability reported. So if this thread isn't going to be dropped, the focus should probably be shifted to What information should we request from people who have this problem? Ciao, Sheldon. If you have Netscape problems, it would be worthwhile to try removing -DVM_STACK from src/sys/compile/BLAH/Makefile and doing a make clean all install. I am pretty certain this is the cause of Netscape crashing, at least on startup... Anything is possible. FWIW, though, I've been running with -DVM_STACK enabled for over a month, and I use Netscape 4.5 everyday, and never had a problem. -- Richard Seamman, Jr. email: d...@tar.com 5182 N. Maple Lanephone: 414-367-5450 Chenequa WI 53058 fax: 414-367-5852 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 10:02:31AM -0600, Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: If you have Netscape problems, it would be worthwhile to try removing -DVM_STACK from src/sys/compile/BLAH/Makefile and doing a make clean all install. I am pretty certain this is the cause of Netscape crashing, at least on startup... Anything is possible. FWIW, though, I've been running with -DVM_STACK enabled for over a month, and I use Netscape 4.5 everyday, and never had a problem. One other thing... -DVM_STACK has been the default for only about 36 hours now. -- Richard Seamman, Jr. email: d...@tar.com 5182 N. Maple Lanephone: 414-367-5450 Chenequa WI 53058 fax: 414-367-5852 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 10:20:14AM -0500, Brian Feldman wrote: On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: I still don't think we're getting any closer to the question Why is Netscape unstable on CURRENT when it worked fine for me on STABLE? The problem seems to be that those who know enough to offer a useful answer don't seem to be seeing the instability reported. So if this thread isn't going to be dropped, the focus should probably be shifted to What information should we request from people who have this problem? Ciao, Sheldon. If you have Netscape problems, it would be worthwhile to try removing -DVM_STACK from src/sys/compile/BLAH/Makefile and doing a make clean all install. I am pretty certain this is the cause of Netscape crashing, at least on startup... Anything is possible. FWIW, though, I've been running with -DVM_STACK enabled for over a month, and I use Netscape 4.5 everyday, and never had a problem. Netscape 4.08 here, never had VM_STACK being used before most recent kernel. I booted with a new kernel to find out netscape sig11d on start-up. Then I booted /kernel.old and Netscape worked fine. So I booted a brand-new kernel without VM_STACK and Netscape runs. Go figure? :) The old kernel had not VM_STACK. Anyhoo, I'm making world in hopes of getting rid of that damned ps error. -- Richard Seamman, Jr. email: d...@tar.com 5182 N. Maple Lanephone: 414-367-5450 Chenequa WI 53058 fax: 414-367-5852 Brian Feldman_ __ ___ ___ ___ gr...@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ _ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
Just another data point. I just updated my 2xPII/300 system to 4.0-CURRENT last night (Tues Jan 26), and I'm running Netscape 4.5 just fine - no crashes od any odd behavior at all. VM_STACK is defined, I have 256Mb RAM, and 256Mb swap (which is currently untouched since the reboot) striped across 2 disks. A make -j8 buildworld also succeeded early this morning at about 5am. Softupdates is turned on for all disks and all partitions except /tmp which is async mfs. -- Parag Patel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 11:04:22AM -0800, Parag Patel wrote: Just another data point. I just updated my 2xPII/300 system to 4.0-CURRENT last night (Tues Jan 26), and I'm running Netscape 4.5 just fine - no crashes od any odd behavior at all. VM_STACK is defined, I have 256Mb RAM, and 256Mb swap (which is currently untouched since the reboot) striped across 2 disks. A make -j8 buildworld also succeeded early this morning at about 5am. Softupdates is turned on for all disks and all partitions except /tmp which is async mfs. In private mail, Brian Feldman has indicated his problem was NOT the VM_STACK option, but was another configuration problem that he since fixed. -- Richard Seamman, Jr. email: d...@tar.com 5182 N. Maple Lanephone: 414-367-5450 Chenequa WI 53058 fax: 414-367-5852 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Reginald S. Perry wrote: I have been having these X lockups with the linux netscape 4.5 running. I may have exacerbated it when I installed the linux realplayer and macromedia flash plugins. I would like to have a methodology to help debug this, but I have just this one system to use as the debug system. I do also have a vt220 which I could set up if that would help. The key here is that for me it locks the system up completely. I cannot telnet in remotely and the ctrl-alt-esc key sequence does not work so its unclear to me how to debug this. Tell me what I would need to help debug it, and I will try to be of some help. Ill attach my dmesg output. -Reggie options DDB options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER #a BREAK on a comconsole goes to options INVARIANTS options INVARIANT_SUPPORT device sio0at isa? port IO_COM1 tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1at isa? port IO_COM2 flags 0x30 tty irq 3 vector siointr my 'sio2' is setup with special flags to make it always be the consol. look in lint for more hints. when the machine locks: send a break: if on vt220: F5 using tip/cu:~% take a look at 'ps' and copy it down to see what's up. you may also want to enable crash dumps, look in rc.conf and set your 'dumpdevice' to your swap partition. then you can type 'panic' and get a core image of the system to look at. on the next reboot you can 'kdb' the kernel and then type 'bt' to get a backtrace. i have a vt320 for vanity purposes :), but i suggest you use a serial line into an xterm on another box if you can, ddb isn't the nicest interface and being able to cut and paste in and out of ddb in an xterm is nice. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
RE: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
-Original Message- From: Reginald S. Perry [mailto:pe...@zso.dec.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 7:35 AM To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Andrew Gordon; curr...@freebsd.org; Matthew Dillon Subject: Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system I have been having these X lockups with the linux netscape 4.5 running. I may have exacerbated it when I installed the linux realplayer and macromedia flash plugins. I would like to have a methodology to help debug this, but I have just this one system to use as the debug system. I do also have a vt220 which I could set up if that would help. The key here is that for me it locks the system up completely. I cannot telnet in remotely and the ctrl-alt-esc key sequence does not work so its unclear to me how to debug this. Tell me what I would need to help debug it, and I will try to be of some help. Ill attach my dmesg output. I've had the problem recently and in the past where the system locks up completely and a lot of the time the speaker starts a continuous beep. Locks up solid, requires a power-cycle. It's not a new problem, it used to happen a lot on my dual processor box and I've had it happen a few time this week on my single processor dev box. The hardware is very different on both boxes and compared to yours so the cause must be somewhere fairly generic. I *think* Netscape was in use every time but I can't see how netscape itself can be directly responsible for a system lockup, it must be tickling some interrupt problem. Paul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 04:21:16PM -0800, Amancio Hasty ha...@rah.star-gate.com wrote: http://www.developer.com/experts/expertspanel.html click on Bar's Guide to the the Interactive Fiction and after the page finishes loading click Back on Netscape's tool bar. Instant core -dump. You are right. I'm running previously called 3.0-CURRENT and Netscape Navigator 4.5. Sources are from Dec.29 1998. Also I'm getting coredumps when loading a huge page containing tables(table) and then using back. It always crashes when going back, not on initial loading. Why ? -- Vallo Kallaste va...@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
I think this is the first step to show the bug . The next step is to pray that the netscape developer is listening so he can fix it . I think is odd that the bug doesn't happen with the linux version of netscape. Cheers, Amancio On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 04:21:16PM -0800, Amancio Hasty ha...@rah.star-gate.com wrote: http://www.developer.com/experts/expertspanel.html click on Bar's Guide to the the Interactive Fiction and after the page finishes loading click Back on Netscape's tool bar. Instant core -dump. You are right. I'm running previously called 3.0-CURRENT and Netscape Navigator 4.5. Sources are from Dec.29 1998. Also I'm getting coredumps when loading a huge page containing tables(table) and then using back. It always crashes when going back, not on initial loading. Why ? -- Vallo Kallaste va...@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
I've a feeling that somewhere there is a memory problem. Netscape-specific perhaps, but I suspect otherwise due to what I've seen. For example: the one machine that I have which will constantly dump core when Netscape is run is an HP Vectra. I've tried 3.0, 2.2.8, all current patches, etc. Core dump. Yet when I loaded Linux, it worked without incident. I have not yet tried Linux emulation, but will give it a shot. I suspected that perhaps the netscape binary needed to be recompiled against a current system. Why? System calls are updated, etc. There might be something really funky going on. The fact that it's stripped of debugging symbols doesn't help much -- but perhaps someone more adept at debugging might take a moment to look into it. Forrest To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
On Sun, 24 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of my system so much as once. Why the wide disparity in experience, I wonder? One variable may be available memory. On my system, with default datasize limit of 16M from login.conf, Netscape coredumps very frequently. With datasize unlimited, Netscape eats all the available swap (this system is 64M real 128M swap) and kills the system that way. I currently run Netscape with datasize set to 64M, pending a new disc for more swap! In this configuration, Netscape either coredumps or starts behavhing oddly about once every 3 days, but at least I can just restart it rather than needing to reboot after a swap outage. Colour depth also has an effect - changing from 8-bit to 32-bit on the X server seems to have made this worse (as you might expect). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
Nate Williams writes: I am current as of today 4.0, I have communicator 4.5 downloaded some time ago (November more or less) directly from netscape and installed in /usr/local/netscape with a link to /usr/local/bin/netscape and I have been using it all day with no problems. My intranet if full of java and haven't had a problem, knock on wood:-) I just downloaded a 9M file after reading your mail to see if that would cause a problem and it didn't. Netscape is as stable as ever on FreeBSD Current 4.0 for me. That bothers me:-) I wonder why? I'm running 2.2-stable, so maybe that's a difference. Me too... (I get crashes running Java) -Archie ___ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:28:10 GMT, Andrew Gordon wrote: One variable may be available memory. On my system, with default datasize limit of 16M from login.conf, Netscape coredumps very frequently. Aha! That figures. Since I upgraded to CURRENT, with its login.conf which defaults to unlimited resources, my frequent netscape core dumps have gone away. I hadn't realized why until now. Suggestion: wwhen people complain about Netscape, ask them to mail us back the output of ``ulimit -a''. Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
:One variable may be available memory. On my system, with default datasize :limit of 16M from login.conf, Netscape coredumps very frequently. With :datasize unlimited, Netscape eats all the available swap (this system is :64M real 128M swap) and kills the system that way. I currently run :Netscape with datasize set to 64M, pending a new disc for more swap! In :this configuration, Netscape either coredumps or starts behavhing oddly :about once every 3 days, but at least I can just restart it rather than :needing to reboot after a swap outage. : :Colour depth also has an effect - changing from 8-bit to 32-bit on the X :server seems to have made this worse (as you might expect). I've been using netscape on a 24bit color system for well over a year and have never had a serious memory leak problem or X session ( or machine ) crashing due to it. I don't leave the netscape window open all the time, though... I tend to exit out of it when I'm not using it. -Matt Matthew Dillon dil...@backplane.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: :One variable may be available memory. On my system, with default datasize :limit of 16M from login.conf, Netscape coredumps very frequently. With I've been using netscape on a 24bit color system for well over a year and have never had a serious memory leak problem or X session ( or machine ) crashing due to it. I don't leave the netscape window open all the time, though... I tend to exit out of it when I'm not using it. -Matt Matthew Dillon dil...@backplane.com Just to clarify: 1) I'm not sure I would necesarily accuse Netscape of having a leak: what with caching pages in RAM and the allocation policy of whatever malloc they use, maybe it really needs this much and would stabilise at some size of 100M+ - I just don't have the swap space to find out. 2) I have never seen a system crash as such. However, having the X server killed due to out-of-swap leaves the console fouled up and so could easily be mis-described as a crash. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
Aha! That figures. Since I upgraded to CURRENT, with its login.conf which defaults to unlimited resources, my frequent netscape core dumps have gone away. I hadn't realized why until now. Suggestion: wwhen people complain about Netscape, ask them to mail us back the output of ``ulimit -a''. My login.conf has unlimited for everything for myself and netscape still crashes/locks up. And I have 64M/175swap so I dont think its running out of memory. --- E-Mail: Luke l...@aus.org Sent by XFMail -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
My setup is about the same. I just modified all my login.conf defaults to be unlimited/infinity. Still the same crappy core dumps. Forrest On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 08:47:29PM -0500, Luke wrote: Aha! That figures. Since I upgraded to CURRENT, with its login.conf which defaults to unlimited resources, my frequent netscape core dumps have gone away. I hadn't realized why until now. Suggestion: wwhen people complain about Netscape, ask them to mail us back the output of ``ulimit -a''. My login.conf has unlimited for everything for myself and netscape still crashes/locks up. And I have 64M/175swap so I dont think its running out of memory. --- E-Mail: Luke l...@aus.org Sent by XFMail -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
Вы писали: Nate Williams writes: I am current as of today 4.0, I have communicator 4.5 downloaded some time ago (November more or less) directly from netscape and installed in /usr/local/netscape with a link to /usr/local/bin/netscape and I have been using it all day with no problems. My intranet if full of java and haven't had a problem, knock on wood:-) I just downloaded a 9M file after reading your mail to see if that would cause a problem and it didn't. Netscape is as stable as ever on FreeBSD Current 4.0 for me. That bothers me:-) I wonder why? I'm running 2.2-stable, so maybe that's a difference. Me too... (I get crashes running Java) And me too.. Now netscape(with java too...) works for me, but after disabling splash... I can not understand it... I cvsupedrebuilded system at 25-jan-1999.. -- Best wishes, Eugeny http://coredumped.null.ru coredum...@coredumped.null.ru ICQ#: 5885106 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
On 26-Jan-99 Andrew Gordon wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: :One variable may be available memory. On my system, with default :datasize :limit of 16M from login.conf, Netscape coredumps very frequently. With I've been using netscape on a 24bit color system for well over a year and have never had a serious memory leak problem or X session ( or machine ) crashing due to it. I don't leave the netscape window open all the time, though... I tend to exit out of it when I'm not using it. This would indicate that it might have to do then with prolonged exposure to memory and the memory-system(s) (swap, paging). Is there anyway to monitor the syscalls and the amount of memory used and released by each call Matt? Hope ye see where I'm getting at... 1) I'm not sure I would necesarily accuse Netscape of having a leak: what with caching pages in RAM and the allocation policy of whatever malloc they use, maybe it really needs this much and would stabilise at some size of 100M+ - I just don't have the swap space to find out. Yer kidding right? A program that _needs_ 100 MB or more? Surely yer kidding... I haven't seen a program in normal corporate/home use that justifies the memory usage of 100 MB or more including NetScape's Navigator/Communicator. 2) I have never seen a system crash as such. However, having the X server killed due to out-of-swap leaves the console fouled up and so could easily be mis-described as a crash. I wonder if X could be the originator of the problems, my guess is it can't since Linux uses the same X and I haven't heard any complaints from that corner. Also it's nice that the program dumps core, but afaik without debug symbols it's not much use. --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven It's a Dance of Energy, asmodai(at)wxs.nl when the Mind goes Binary... Network/Security Specialist http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai BSD picoBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
I have been having these X lockups with the linux netscape 4.5 running. I may have exacerbated it when I installed the linux realplayer and macromedia flash plugins. I would like to have a methodology to help debug this, but I have just this one system to use as the debug system. I do also have a vt220 which I could set up if that would help. The key here is that for me it locks the system up completely. I cannot telnet in remotely and the ctrl-alt-esc key sequence does not work so its unclear to me how to debug this. Tell me what I would need to help debug it, and I will try to be of some help. Ill attach my dmesg output. -Reggie Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Jan 17 09:52:17 PST 1999 r...@trane.lambdawerks.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/TRANE Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (586-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x543 Stepping=3 Features=0x8003bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,APIC,MMX real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) config pnp 1 0 os enable irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388 config pnp 1 1 os disable config pnp 1 2 os enable port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20 config pnp 1 3 os disable config quit avail memory = 127401984 (124416K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee0 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee0 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec0 Preloaded elf kernel kernel at 0xf02f3000. Preloaded userconfig_script /kernel.config at 0xf02f309c. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: Intel 82439 rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: Intel 82371SB PCI to ISA bridge rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: Intel PIIX3 Bus-master IDE controller rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1 vga0: Matrox MGA 2164W graphics accelerator rev 0x00 int a irq 18 on pci0.18.0 bt0: Buslogic Multi-Master SCSI Host Adapter rev 0x08 int a irq 17 on pci0.19.0 bt0: BT-958 FW Rev. 5.06I Ultra Wide SCSI Host Adapter, SCSI ID 7, 192 CCBs fxp0: Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Ethernet rev 0x02 int a irq 16 on pci0.20.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:90:bb:52 Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL009e [0x9e008c0e] Serial 0x0d9191f1 Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 wdc1 not found at 0x170 bt: unit number (1) too high bt1 not found at 0x330 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa snd0: SoundBlaster 16 4.16 sbxvi0 at drq 5 on isa snd0: SoundBlaster 16 4.16 sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa snd0: SoundBlaster MPU-401 opl0 at 0x388 on isa snd0: Yamaha OPL3 FM awe0 at 0x620 on isa awe0: SoundBlaster EMU8000 MIDI (RAM4096k) Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2 Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! sa0 at bt0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 sa0: HP C1533A 9608 Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 8) da0 at bt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: IBM DCAS-34330W !# S65A Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C) da1 at bt0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da1: IBM DCAS-34330W !# S65A Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C) changing root device to da0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted vinum: loaded cd0 at bt0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 cd0: TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5701TA 0167 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 8) cd0: cd present [296322 x 2048 byte records] ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates Asmodai == Asmodai Jeroen writes: On 26-Jan-99 Andrew Gordon wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: :One variable may be
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
I've given up on Netscape. On some FreeBSD-based machines I have, it just core dumps... on others it works. Nobody seems to know (or care) why, so I would suggest following the development of Gzilla and Amaya. Of course, it would be immensely helpful if we knew what mysterious person within netscape provided the port to begin with (Hey, now there's a great idea) so we might ask some questions. But, that's what you get for free... On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 03:01:38PM -0500, Luke wrote: I built 4.0 and after getting over the libcrypt thing it worked ok. But now every copy of netscape I have [5, all freebsd] freezes the system, waiting, switching to ttyv* dont help. and it doesnt dump core or syslog anything. Im not exactly sure what info would be helpful. Anyways other than netscape it works great --- E-Mail: Luke l...@aus.org Sent by XFMail -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
I've given up on Netscape. On some FreeBSD-based machines I have, it just core dumps... on others it works. Nobody seems to know (or care) why, so I would suggest following the development of Gzilla and Amaya. Of course, it would be immensely helpful if we knew what mysterious person within netscape provided the port to begin with (Hey, now there's a great idea) so we might ask some questions. But, that's what you get for free... If you are having a problem with Netscape for FreeBSD, then just try the Linux version. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
On 24-Jan-99 Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: I've given up on Netscape. On some FreeBSD-based machines I have, it just core dumps... on others it works. Nobody seems to know (or care) why, so I would suggest following the development of Gzilla and Amaya. Of course, it would be immensely helpful if we knew what mysterious person within netscape provided the port to begin with (Hey, now there's a great idea) so we might ask some questions. But, that's what you get for free... If you are having a problem with Netscape for FreeBSD, then just try the Linux version. I was thinking of doing that, since FreeBSD can run BSDi,SCO, Linux etc binaries, [I dont have Linux emulation installed (or even looked into)] which one would be the best to try. It's become tiring since netscape forces hitting the reset switch. I shouldnt be complaining :) I had 3.0-RELEASE and just had to have that new number .. --- E-Mail: Luke l...@aus.org Sent by XFMail -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of my system so much as once. Why the wide disparity in experience, I wonder? On 24-Jan-99 Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: I've given up on Netscape. On some FreeBSD-based machines I have, it just core dumps... on others it works. Nobody seems to know (or care) why, so I would suggest following the development of Gzilla and Amaya. Of course, it would be immensely helpful if we knew what mysterious person within netscape provided the port to begin with (Hey, now there's a great idea) so we might ask some questions. But, that's what you get for free... If you are having a problem with Netscape for FreeBSD, then just try the Linux version. I was thinking of doing that, since FreeBSD can run BSDi,SCO, Linux e tc binaries, [I dont have Linux emulation installed (or even looked into)] which one would be the best to try. It's become tiring since netscape forces hittin g the reset switch. I shouldnt be complaining :) I had 3.0-RELEASE and just had to have that new number .. --- E-Mail: Luke l...@aus.org Sent by XFMail -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of my system so much as once. Why the wide disparity in experience, I wonder? On my system, running the FreeBSD 4.0[678] or 4.5 version, the setting of MOZILLA_NO_ASYNC_DNS makes a noticeable difference. With MOZILLA_NO_ASYNC_DNS turned off, Netscape uses normal name lookup inside the netscape process itself. In 2.2.[78] this worked fine, in 3.0 I get frequent hangs if the name lookups take too long. I can avoid the hangs if I make sure that the name to IP address is in my local name server cache (for instance by doing a manual nslookup or similar on the name). This is of course rather cumbersome. With MOZILLA_NO_ASYNC_DNS turned on, Netscape starts a separate (huge, resource consuming) asynchronous DNS lookup daemon. But I don't get the hangs. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
Jordan K. Hubbard writes: I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of my system so much as once. Why the wide disparity in experience, I wonder? Do you ever run Java applets? Netscape 4.5 seems to work fine until running Java, which kicks off some sort of time bomb. Death is not immediate, but it is guaranteed. -Archie ___ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
http://www.developer.com/experts/expertspanel.html click on Bar's Guide to the the Interactive Fiction and after the page finishes loading click Back on Netscape's tool bar. Instant core -dump. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of my system so much as once. Why the wide disparity in experience, I wonder? Do you ever run Java applets? Netscape 4.5 seems to work fine until running Java, which kicks off some sort of time bomb. Death is not immediate, but it is guaranteed. Agreed. However, I disabled Java, and I can also get death anytime I try to download a file using netscape. Not fun. In the interim I'm back to using 3.07, which is rock-solid but doesn't support all of the java that I'd like it to. ;( Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
Nate Williams wrote: I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of my system so much as once. Why the wide disparity in experience, I wonder? Do you ever run Java applets? Netscape 4.5 seems to work fine until running Java, which kicks off some sort of time bomb. Death is not immediate, but it is guaranteed. Agreed. However, I disabled Java, and I can also get death anytime I try to download a file using netscape. Not fun. In the interim I'm back to using 3.07, which is rock-solid but doesn't support all of the java that I'd like it to. ;( Nate I am current as of today 4.0, I have communicator 4.5 downloaded some time ago (November more or less) directly from netscape and installed in /usr/local/netscape with a link to /usr/local/bin/netscape and I have been using it all day with no problems. My intranet if full of java and haven't had a problem, knock on wood:-) I just downloaded a 9M file after reading your mail to see if that would cause a problem and it didn't. Netscape is as stable as ever on FreeBSD Current 4.0 for me. That bothers me:-) I wonder why? ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: 4.0-Current, netscape halts system
I really don't understand the problems that everyone is having, myself. I've been running netscape (communicator 4.5) in -current for ages now and just switched to 4.0 without any problems. My netscape still continues to function just fine and has never crashed any of my system so much as once. Why the wide disparity in experience, I wonder? Do you ever run Java applets? Netscape 4.5 seems to work fine until running Java, which kicks off some sort of time bomb. Death is not immediate, but it is guaranteed. Agreed. However, I disabled Java, and I can also get death anytime I try to download a file using netscape. Not fun. I am current as of today 4.0, I have communicator 4.5 downloaded some time ago (November more or less) directly from netscape and installed in /usr/local/netscape with a link to /usr/local/bin/netscape and I have been using it all day with no problems. My intranet if full of java and haven't had a problem, knock on wood:-) I just downloaded a 9M file after reading your mail to see if that would cause a problem and it didn't. Netscape is as stable as ever on FreeBSD Current 4.0 for me. That bothers me:-) I wonder why? I'm running 2.2-stable, so maybe that's a difference. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
