Re: c question

2010-04-09 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Leinier Cruz Salfran wrote:


hello all

i want to know your oppinions about this:

- use a matrix is faster than use a linked list?


yes.




example:

char *szColumnName[10];
unsigned short iColumnAge[10];


struct _llList {
 struct _llList *prev, *next;
 char szName[64];
 unsigned short iAge;
};
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Re: our little daemon abused as symbol of the evil

2010-02-09 Thread KAYVEN RIESE



On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:


Bernd Walter ti...@cicely7.cicely.de writes:




You can *not* lose copyright through dilution, only trademarks.

At worst, you might lose an infringement suit if the defendant can show
that you knew about *that particular case* long before you filed suit,
but it would not invalidate your copyright, nor would it diminish your
standing in other suits against other infringers.


Isn't what we are looking at here defamation of character??  Our beloved 
Daemon is being accused of browser history stealing!





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Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail

2009-11-20 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Julian Elischer wrote:

xorquew...@googlemail.com wrote:

On 2009-11-18 23:19:14, Julian Elischer wrote:



Wine is an exceptional bit of software, in many ways.



  http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine

  FreeBSD currently lacks support for 32bit ports on a 64bit system.
   However, with a little bit of effort you can build and use the 32 bit
   wine executable on an amd64 system (Diablo 2 works just fine).

His instructions show an essentially identical setup to mine (apart
from the fact that he's running a chroot and I'm running a jail).


jail may not alow you to do the LDT system calls.

have you tried a chroot?


Is there any reason to fear Microsoft viruses infecting Wine programs? Is 
that why he is using a jail?  Would there be a greater danger of virus 
infection with chroot?







Even any ideas on how to debug this would help.

xw


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RE: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail - for stupid peaple only

2009-11-20 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Fulano Tal wrote:



neither I believe I was sober, bleh :P



Underdog - planning to write a book now


S00per!  {:D what's it gonna be called?






Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:43:17 -0800
From: jul...@elischer.org
To: gatinhodosseusson...@hotmail.com
CC: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Wine on amd64 in 32 bit jail - for stupid peaple only

Fulano Tal wrote:

Use IPMI to read architecture information is easy, but a nice ploy

is to sed-out i386 and amd64 related #ifdefs, and have nightmares with
chains... sorry, I mean You will have a bi-archtecture system after
some work with a cool new personalized tables compatible with 32 and
64 images. You will have the honorable scout's ribbon of scratch a
file system in your chest after stark in short, something like an
homunculus with AB positive blood type.





good luck.




ps.: Do I waste time sending replies that maybe will not help

anybody, with idiot thoughs like: hey guys, what about we taylor an
prototype of an a.i. managed not human operating system, that is not
so simple to be handled by any simple person except for a few seconds
at every century by prodigy minds more exceptional than any existing
mythological wisdom, and without any crt and hack objects or strange
acpi boring dependencies that nobody want to explain, just to perform
the simple task of running other two kernels, like a freebsd code at
cpu0 and a slackware code at cpu1, and have triple-eyed super-kernel
force balancing shared jobs of an world wide clustered extensible system?



nevermind.



Didn't your mother tell you to not eat other people's medications?


:-)

Julian

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Re: writing a FreeBSD C library

2009-11-04 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Harald Servat wrote:


Oh, yes! You're right DES. They look the same to me here in the web-browser
:)


Oh, no. shoulda used a serif font!  {:P



Oliver, regarding the Dag-Erling correction, the -I option in gcc refers to
include header files (typically files ended with .h), not for naming
libraries as I mentioned.

Regards.

2009/11/4 Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no


Harald Servat redcr...@gmail.com writes:

  In addition, the -l X option in the gcc compiler looks for libX.[a|so]

in

the all specified paths defined by -L, so in your first command
  gcc -o aprog aprog.c -I ~/mylib/
  you're making gcc to look for for something called lib~/mylib/.[a|so]
which I doubt it can be found.


You're confusing -l with -I...  but the rest of your email is correct.

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Hackers Documentation

2008-05-25 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


A couple of people on this list came to an agreement that hackers
is appropriately understood as being for developers.

Well.  I made my decision to subscribe based on the documentation
here:

http://tinyurl.com/623qw

Namely:

freebsd-hackers General technical discussion

Googling hackers gives me 42.4 million hits.

Wikipedia gives:

* Hacker (computing) has a spectrum of meanings:
  o Hacker (computer security), someone who breaks computer and
network security
  o Hacker (free and open source software), a programmer in the
free software and open source movement
  o Hacker (hobbyist), an enthusiastic home computer hobbyist.

Hmm.. I think I at very least belong to that third category.  Personally,
I take issue with the first defintion, but the facts are that most
laypersons understand hackers in that way.  I would say it is a
cracker who breaks into a computer and not a hacker.  Somebody 
instilled this idea in me, I forget who.


Anyway.  I won't belabor this point further here.  Thank you for
your time.

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Re: kldxref oh oh

2008-05-24 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


On Sat, 24 May 2008, Robert Watson wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2008, KAYVEN RIESE wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2008, KAYVEN  RIESE wrote:

kldxref: file isn't dynamically-linked
kldxref: file isn't dynamically-linked
kldxref: file isn't dynamically-linked
kv_bsd#make kernel



From the 7.0 errata notes:


[20080307] Source upgrades from FreeBSD 6.X to FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE will 
generate warnings from kldxref(8) during the installkernel step. These 
warnings are harmless and can be ignored.


Thank you very much for showing me I should have RTFM in a very nice
way.



Robert N M Watson
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge
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/usr/src/Makefile instructions

2008-05-23 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


My professor told me about instructions being in /usr/src/Makefile
for rebuilding my world.  I feel better about following them because
they are close to the command line to me and can't be out of date, right?

I am looking at this list of makes:

# check-old   - List obsolete directories/files/libraries.
# check-old-dirs  - List obsolete directories.
# check-old-files - List obsolete files.
# check-old-libs  - List obsolete libraries.
# delete-old  - Delete obsolete directories/files/libraries.
# delete-old-dirs - Delete obsolete directories.
# delete-old-files- Delete obsolete files.
# delete-old-libs - Delete obsolete libraries.
#


I am wondering if I should try these out, or will it just be
taken care of with the cannonical methods.  I seem to have lots
of big problems with my configuration.. I don't know.  Things
work, but dmesg has errors, and many ports fail and their makes,
even if they succeed have errors and warnings.

If I delete-old-.. will I be messing things up?

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Re: libz.so no found

2008-05-23 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Fri, 23 May 2008, Daniel O'Connor wrote:


On Fri, 23 May 2008, KAYVEN RIESE wrote:

okay, so I don't have a shortcut key for freeBSD-hacker.. I went into
my freeBSD saved box, grabbed the first email, replied to all,
deleted everything including the subject, and despite having revised
the subject, your sooperphreekiness found out I was muddling around
in the deally bobber?  Is that what you are talking about then?  So
in the future, I should know that editing the subject line will not
suffice to make a new thread?

If so, sorry.  I get it now.


Your mail client sets the In-Reply-To header to the message ID of the
email you pulled out of your saved folder.

Mail clients use this header to track what thread a message is in (even
if someone changed the subject).


Thanks. This makes things clear.  I'm sorry that I felt scolded
by the confusing barrage (I guess at least a couple of you thought
this should have been obvious to me).



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Warning during make buildworld

2008-05-23 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


There was one about mktemp()

./gengtype
warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined
warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined
warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined
warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined
warning: structure `loop' used but not defined
warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined
warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined
warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined
warning: structure `VEC_cp_token_position_heap' used but not defined
warning: structure `c_arg_info' used but not defined
warning: structure `c_switch' used but not defined
warning: structure `et_node' used but not defined
warning: structure `loop' used but not defined
warning: structure `ipa_reference_vars_info_d' used but not defined
warning: structure `reg_info_def' used but not defined
warning: structure `value_set' used but not defined
touch gtype-desc.h


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Re: /usr/src/Makefile instructions

2008-05-23 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


On Fri, 23 May 2008, Tom Evans wrote:

On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 05:49 -0700, KAYVEN RIESE wrote:




I've redirected this to questions@, as this seems more like a 'User
question/technical support' rather than 'General technical discussion'.
Please try to keep the mailing lists on topic.


That list is too busy.  I find I don't have to unsubscribe to
hackers, and it doesn't seem as hard core to misinterpret
what hackers are, than say ports or acpi

I realized that make delete-old and make delete-old-libs
are both part of the cannonical, I guess because I am going
RELENG_6_3 to RELENG_7

On that note, was I given misinformation when I was advised
that it would be impossible to upgrade RELENG_6_2 directly to
RELENG_7 ?



Cheers

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Re: /usr/src/Makefile instructions

2008-05-23 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Fri, 23 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




On that note, was I given misinformation when I was advised
that it would be impossible to upgrade RELENG_6_2 directly to
RELENG_7 ?


Close to implausible, perhaps? That would indeed be the case, unless you
truly are longing for a major workout, either with mergemaster et al, or
both with mergemaster and the ports. The former case, which assumes you
don't have many ports installed, is often a no-brainer: install a fresh
system. The latter case may be somewhat more complicated: install a fresh
system for the least effort on your side, or go the update route if you need
to keep your system up and usable during the process.


I didn't really understand that and I don't understand why I am a bad
person for spamming my idiotic thoughts on the matter, but in any case
this is moot because I am up an runing RELENG_6_3 and making kernel
after editing the stable-supfiles RELENG_6_3 to RELENG_7 let's all
cross our fingers that communication has just happened.


I should note that I always took the update trail, and never regretted it
afterwards (well, if only so slightly). For instance, my workstation lived
through 5.2.1-R, 6.2-R, RELENG_6, and finally RELENG_7, all with the aid of
cvsup. The process is straightforward, well-designed and easily executed
(thanks to the developers), but problems often pop-up with ports
(especially such messy ones as Gnome, etc) which take lots of time to
correct.


I am feeling better about cvsup and even mergemaster nowadays. Thank
you very much for your support.



So, in summary, a sane person should probably go with clean system update.



Is that what I am doing? Umm.. maybe not.  I have all these errors that
I don't understand and that people ignore but I have a browser and
a terminal, so I feel like a functioning pile of carbon compounds.


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Nah.. hackers needs the publicity!



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Re: /usr/src/Makefile instructions

2008-05-23 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
 mmcbus_if.c card_if.c power_if.c pci_if.c pcib_if.c ppbus_if.c 
uart_if.c usb_if.c g_part_if.c isa_if.c bus_if.c cpufreq_if.c device_if.c 
linker_if.c serdev_if.c agp_if.c acpi_if.c ata_if.h eisa_if.h miibus_if.h 
mmcbr_if.h mmcbus_if.h card_if.h power_if.h pci_if.h pcib_if.h ppbus_if.h 
uart_if.h usb_if.h g_part_if.h isa_if.h bus_if.h cpufreq_if.h device_if.h 
linker_if.h serdev_if.h agp_if.h acpi_if.h  aicasm* y.tab.h aic7xxx_seq.h 
aic7xxx_reg.h aic7xxx_reg_print.c  aic79xx_seq.h aic79xx_reg.h 
aic79xx_reg_print.c miidevs.h  pccarddevs.h usbdevs.h usbdevs_data.h 
opt_ah.h

rm -f .depend machine
cd /usr/src/sys/modules; 
MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules KMODDIR=/boot/kernel 
DEBUG_FLAGS=-g MACHINE=i386 KERNBUILDDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 
make  cleandir

=== 3dfx (cleandir)
=== 3dfx_linux (cleandir)
=== aac (cleandir)
=== aac/aac_linux (cleandir)
rm -f export_syms aac_linux.ko aac_linux.kld aac_linux.o 
aac_linux.ko.debug aac_linux.ko.symbols

rm -f @ machine
rm -f .depend GPATH GRTAGS GSYMS GTAGS
=== accf_data (cleandir)




So, in summary, a sane person should probably go with clean system update.



== netgraph/l2tp (cleandir)
== netgraph/lmi (cleandir)
== netgraph/mppc (cleandir)
== netgraph/nat (cleandir)
== netgraph/netflow (cleandir)
== netgraph/netgraph (cleandir)
== netgraph/one2many (cleandir)
== netgraph/ppp (cleandir)
== netgraph/pppoe (cleandir)
== netgraph/pptpgre (cleandir)
== netgraph/pred1 (cleandir)
== netgraph/rfc1490 (cleandir)
== netgraph/socket (cleandir)
== netgraph/source (cleandir)
== netgraph/split (cleandir)
== netgraph/sppp (cleandir)
== netgraph/sync_ar (cleandir)
== netgraph/sync_sr (cleandir)
== netgraph/tag (cleandir)
== netgraph/tcpmss (cleandir)
== netgraph/tee (cleandir)





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sr/src/sys/modules/cd9660_iconv
= cdce (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/cdce created for 
/usr/src

ys/modules/cdce
= ce (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/ce created for 
/usr/src/s

/modules/ce
= ciss (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/ciss created for 
/usr/src

ys/modules/ciss
= cm (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/cm created for 
/usr/src/s

/modules/cm
= cmx (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/cmx created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/cmx

= coda (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/coda created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/coda

= coda5 (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/coda5 created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/coda5

= coff (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/coff created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/coff

= coretemp (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/coretemp created 
for /usr/src/sys/modules/coretemp

= cp (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/cp created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/cp

= cpufreq (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/cpufreq created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/cpufreq

= crypto (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/crypto created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/crypto

= cryptodev (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/cryptodev created 
for /usr/src/sys/modules/cryptodev

= cs (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/cs created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/cs

= ctau (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/ctau created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/ctau

= cue (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/cue created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/cue

= cxgb (obj)
= cxgb/cxgb (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/cxgb/cxgb created 
for /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgb/cxgb

= cxgb/cxgb_t3fw (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/cxgb/cxgb_t3fw 
created for /usr/src/sys/modules/cxgb/cxgb_t3fw

= cx (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/cx created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/cx

= dc (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/dc created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/dc

= dcons (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/dcons created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/dcons

= dcons_crom (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/dcons_crom created 
for /usr/src/sys/modules/dcons_crom

= de (obj)
sr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC/modules/usr/src/sys/modules/de created for 
/usr/src/sys/modules/de

= digi (obj)
= digi/digi (obj)









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Re: /usr/src/Makefile instructions

2008-05-23 Thread KAYVEN RIESE



On Fri, 23 May 2008, Oliver Fromme wrote:

KAYVEN RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tom Evans wrote:



  I've redirected this to questions@, as this seems more like a 'User
  question/technical support' rather than 'General technical discussion'.
  Please try to keep the mailing lists on topic.

 That list is too busy.  I find I don't have to unsubscribe to
 hackers, and it doesn't seem as hard core to misinterpret
 what hackers are, than say ports or acpi

Well, hackers usually means developers, i.e. people
hacking on the FreeBSD code.  Therefore I'm afraid I
have to agree with Tom:  Your questions should better
go to the questions list.


ergo: because obviously I am a flumming idiot.  I thought hacker
was something you took eucalyptus fro.



 I realized that make delete-old and make delete-old-libs
 are both part of the cannonical, I guess because I am going
 RELENG_6_3 to RELENG_7

I always use make delete-old, as instructed in the
/usr/src/UPDATING file, and it has never bitten me.
Please have a look at that file; the important part
starts at the section titled To rebuild everything.



Actually, after composing this I kicked myself, because
/usr/src/Makefile has clearly instructed me to do
make delete-old after make installworld and I think
I will throw caution to the wind and append -U to my
subsequent mergemaster followed by make delete-old-libs



 On that note, was I given misinformation when I was advised
 that it would be impossible to upgrade RELENG_6_2 directly to
 RELENG_7 ?

Nothing is impossible!, as Dr. Farnsworth from the
Futurama series used to say.  :-)



Oh well.  Water under the bridge.  I expect to someday edit
this to RELENG_7_1 or the like when freebsd.org says so and
following the instructions in /usr/src/Makefile again.



But seriously ...  I think going from 6.2 to 7.0 should
work fine.  However, the official notion is that updates
across major versions have to be supported only for the
latest stable release.  Any other configurations might
work, but it's not guaranteed.  If it fails, you're not
expected to complain or ask for help, but instead try
the officially supported way (i.e. first update to the
latest stable on your existing branch, then update
across the major version boundary).  If that still fails,
you may complain and ask for help.



Interesting.  No.  Fascinitating.  Captian Kirk, I believe
this star will supernova in approximately 12 days, 13 hours,
34 minutes and 23.3425 seconds.



Note that it is IMPORTANT to rebuild *all* of your ports
when you update from 6.x to 7.x.  (This holds true for
any major version update.)  If you don't do this, you
will get library dependency collisions, i.e. port A uses
libc.so.7 and depends on port B, but port B still links
against the older libc.so.6.  Things will break sooner
or later.  That's why you should rebuild *all* ports
after updating to 7.x.  (You can keep older ports only
if you are absolutely sure that they are not part of any
dependencies, and never will be.)



My habit is to run cvsup standard-supfile followed by
cvsup ports-supfile.  IS that a dumb thing to do?



In your previous mail you mentioned:
 Things work, but dmesg has errors,

Would you please tell us what those errors are?  We might
be able to help you, but only if you tell us.



I told the ACPI folks and they told me nicely that my appropriate
post was too much of a hassle to bother with.  Some ding dong
was attaching after the fact of the wing ding and the fact that
the errors occured between the wing and the ding was irrelevant
since the dong ding subsequent to the ding ding recalibrated the
whosits in an adequate fashion before reaching single user mode.



 and many ports fail and their makes

Again:  Please post messages and everything relevant to
the problems.  There are really people on these lists
that are willing to help, but we need as much information
as possible in order to be able to help.

Best regards
  Oliver



Well.. I reckon I mights a git up thah gumpshun whenis I's gonna
get tootin' on sumptin that gits mah goat subsequently.


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kldxref oh oh

2008-05-23 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


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kv_bsd#


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Re: kldxref oh oh

2008-05-23 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Fri, 23 May 2008, KAYVEN  RIESE wrote:



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kv_bsd#make kernel

--

Kernel build for GENERIC started on Fri May 23 20:38:21 PDT 2008

--
=== GENERIC
mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/sys

--

stage 1: configuring the kernel

--
cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf; 
PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin 
config  -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC

Kernel build directory is /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Don't forget to do ``make cleandepend  make depend''

--

stage 2.1: cleaning up the object tree





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kv_bsd#


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Re: libz.so no found

2008-05-22 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Wed, 21 May 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:


On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:13:43PM -0700, KAYVEN RIESE wrote:

kv_bsd#cd /usr/ports/distfiles
kv_bsd#mv /usr/home/kayve/Nessus-3.2.0-fbsd7.tbz .
kv_bsd#pkg_add Nessus-3.2.0-fbsd7.tbz
pkg_add: package VisualOS-1.0.5_3 has no origin recorded
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libz.so.4 not found, required by
nessusd


First and foremost, you hijacked an existing thread by replying to it
with regards to a completely different issue.  Please don't do this, it
confuses mail clients which follow thread references.  Please don't hit
reply on unrelated messages and start a new/unrelated discussion.


i don't know wtf you are talking about these are all my threads.



Secondly, the missing library error shown above would happen on machines
running FreeBSD 6.x or earlier.  /lib/libz.so.4 exists on RELENG_7.



i am still on freeBSD 6.3  is this a serious problem?


Another possibility is that something completely destroyed ld.so's
shared library cache path.  Of course, you'd be seeing all sorts of
programs reporting missing libraries, and not just nexxus.



so running freeBSD 6.3 is a fatal problem, or just extraneously
irrelevant?


If the startup script for nessus calls ldconfig or uses
$LD_LIBRARY_PATH, that could explain the missing library.

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Re: libz.so no found

2008-05-22 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


On Thu, 22 May 2008, Bert JW Regeer wrote:

On May 22, 2008, at 10:19 , KAYVEN RIESE wrote:

On Wed, 21 May 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:13:43PM -0700, KAYVEN RIESE wrote:


i don't know wtf you are talking about these are all my threads.


You clicked reply, or something along those lines on a previous message sent 
to the mailling list, thereby copying over some crucial information into the 
header of said email:


In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

For mail clients that do threading, and show the conversation more as one 
would expect on a message board, your emails now look as if they belong 
underneath the topic named Hifn 7955 doesn't work with FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE, 
which is annoying to most of us who would want your messages to show up in a 
new thread context. Next time, please just email hackers@ directly, and do 
not hi-jack the thread.



okay, so I don't have a shortcut key for freeBSD-hacker.. I went into
my freeBSD saved box, grabbed the first email, replied to all, deleted
everything including the subject, and despite having revised the subject,
your sooperphreekiness found out I was muddling around in the deally
bobber?  Is that what you are talking about then?  So in the future, I
should know that editing the subject line will not suffice to make a
new thread?

If so, sorry.  I get it now.




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nessus gtk yields empty scan

2008-05-21 Thread KAYVEN RIESE
 several options to scan for ports. There is the built-in 
wrapper for NMAP, widely acknowledged as the best port scanner around. 
There is also an internal scanner and a custom ping scan. As with plug-in 
selection, port scanning is very dependent on the situation. For a simple 
scan, the internal sync scan using default parameters with pings 
enabled, found on the Perf tab of the Unix GUI and the Port scan tab of 
NessusWX, is sufficient. Figures 8 and 9, below, show the internal SYN 
scan option using NessusWX and the Unix GUI client, respectively:


Figure 8: Configuring the internal SYN scan for a simple port scan on 
NessusWX
Figure 8: Configuring the internal SYN scan for a simple port scan on 
NessusWX


Figure 9: Configuring the internal SYN scan for a simple port scan on the 
Unix Client
Figure 9: Configuring the internal SYN scan for a simple port scan on the 
Unix Client


4.3 Identify targets
The final task is to identify your targets. This is done on the targets 
tab. Targets can be specified as a single IP Address, as a subnet or as a 
range of IP addresses. I normally try to break them down into logical 
groups. It is typically easier to deal with smaller groups at one time. 
Figures 10 and 11 show how to select targets in both client environments:


Figure 10: Specifying Targets in the Unix GUI
Figure 10: Specifying Targets in the Unix GUI

Figure 11: Target Selection in NessusWX
Figure 11: Target Selection in NessusWX

4.4 Start a scan
With your Nessus client and server in hand you are ready to scan systems. 
To start a scan in the Unix GUI just click Start Scan at the bottom of 
the window. In NessusWX, right click the desired session and select 
Execute. Properly used, Nessus can and will pinpoint problems and provide 
solutions. However, misused it can and will crash systems, cause the loss 
of data, and possibly cost you your job. As with anything powerful, there 
comes risk and responsibilities. Scanned systems sometimes will crash. 
Don't scan any system without permission. I suggest your first scan be 
against your own isolated test system. Future articles will lead you 
thorough a scan, sort out false positives and talk about stealth and 
firewall scanning. Figures 12, 13 and 14 show a scan using NessusWX.


Figure 12: Starting a scan in NessusWX
Figure 12: Starting a scan in NessusWX

Figure 13: Starting a scan in NessusWX
Figure 13: Starting a scan in NessusWX

Figure 14: NessusWX scan in Progress
Figure 14: NessusWX scan in Progress
5.0 Conclusion
Nessus is an excellent tool that will greatly aid your ability to test and 
discover known security problems. As has been mentioned several times in 
this article, the power that Nessus gives you should be used wisely as it 
can render production systems unavailable with some of the more dangerous 
plus-ins. For more information on Nessus, visit the official Nessus site 
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libz.so no found

2008-05-21 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


kv_bsd#cd /usr/ports/distfiles
kv_bsd#mv /usr/home/kayve/Nessus-3.2.0-fbsd7.tbz .
kv_bsd#pkg_add Nessus-3.2.0-fbsd7.tbz
pkg_add: package VisualOS-1.0.5_3 has no origin recorded
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libz.so.4 not found, required by 
nessusd


 - Please run /usr/local/nessus/sbin/nessus-adduser to add an admin user
 - Register your Nessus scanner at http://www.nessus.org/register/ to 
obtain

   all the newest plugins
 - You can start nessusd by typing /usr/local/etc/rc.d/nessusd.sh start
kv_bsd#/usr/local/etc/rc.d/nessusd.sh start
 Nessus/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libz.so.4 not found, required 
by nessusd

kv_bsd#


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Many Nessus startup errors

2008-05-21 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


I am not generating reports

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/nessus/nessus.vhtml

During startup, 20K plugins try to load.  A lot of them fail
or something:

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/nessus/p5210017.vhtml
http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/nessus/p5210018.vhtml

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Re: Failure to Project OOImpress

2008-03-15 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Paul B. Mahol wrote:


Was it connected prior or after Xorg startup?


I think we connected prior.  Should we have?  I had my
computer turned off, and I booted it up. The projector
was on during boot.  I thought the boot process would
take care of it but it didn't.



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Couldn't connect to projector for presentation.

I was supposed to give a class presentation and we tried to hook
my computer  into the 15 pin female joint (sorry I forget what it is
called three rows of 5 pins each on the computer, hooking to 15 pins
on the wire) that I guess is usually a monitor connector.  The professor
kept saying hit function-f8 but that didn't go.

I am running gnome on freeBSD

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -a
FreeBSD kv_bsd 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 10:40:27 UTC
2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$


He said it was all about BIOS, but we were trying to hit func-f8 during
gnome running, so I thought
I would get a second opinion.

Here is a link with pictures of the model decal:

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/dmesg/index.vhtml

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Failure to Project OOImpress

2008-03-14 Thread KAYVEN RIESE



Couldn't connect to projector for presentation.

I was supposed to give a class presentation and we tried to hook 
my computer  into the 15 pin female joint (sorry I forget what it is 
called three rows of 5 pins each on the computer, hooking to 15 pins

on the wire) that I guess is usually a monitor connector.  The professor
kept saying hit function-f8 but that didn't go.

I am running gnome on freeBSD

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FreeBSD kv_bsd 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 10:40:27 UTC 
2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$


He said it was all about BIOS, but we were trying to hit func-f8 during 
gnome running, so I thought

I would get a second opinion.

Here is a link with pictures of the model decal:

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/dmesg/index.vhtml

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Re: Is it possible that modern wireless card only supports WPA and not WEP or this is a bug in the driver?

2008-02-27 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Sam Leffler wrote:


Yuri wrote:

I have a Linksys PCI wireless card that is being attached by ral driver:
ral0: Ralink Technology RT2561S mem 0xcffe8000-0xcffe irq 17 at 
device

10.0 on pci0
ral0: MAC/BBP RT2561C, RF RT2527
ral0: Ethernet address: 00:18:f8:2e:40:25
ral0: [ITHREAD]

But when I do 'ifconfig ral0 list caps' it returns:
ral0=2181e500IBSS,HOSTAP,TXPMGT,SHSLOT,SHPREAMBLE,MONITOR,WPA1,WPA2,BGSCAN
and WEP isn't there.

This looks amazing since WEP is older and very widespread.


I am about to do a talk on WEP versus WPA for a course in internet
security.  I became acquainted with the protocols through a
60 minutes story.

http://tinyurl.com/2wucm3

WEP is not fully secure.  WPA or WPA2 is the improvement.  The
above story notes that American businesses are in arears with
respect to properly upgrading the wireless routers that they
use for financial processing.



So how can I tell if this card can't really support WEP or it's the driver 
that

can't support it?



WEP is always supported.  The WEP capability bit means the driver uses the 
hardware.  Many driver writers were too lazy to implement full driver support 
and just fall back on the host to do crypto.



Also command:
ifconfig ral0 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid freebsdap wepmode 
on

weptxkey 3 wepkey 3:0x3456789012 authmode open mode 11g mediaopt hostap
succeeds though CAPS doesn't have WEP.
Isn't this a bug?




No, see above.

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Re: Is it possible that modern wireless card only supports WPA and not WEP or this is a bug in the driver?

2008-02-27 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Yuri wrote:

KAYVEN RIESE wrote:




WEP is not fully secure.  WPA or WPA2 is the improvement.  The
above story notes that American businesses are in arears with
respect to properly upgrading the wireless routers that they
use for financial processing.


Sorry, Your response has nothing to do with the question.


I tend to beg to differ.  Backward compatibility standards imply
the answer to your question (that was actually already answered
anyway).  I considered it relevant to realize the importance of
WPA upgrade.  Sorry if you already knew that and I wasted your
time.




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Java 1.6 Berkeley Oracle DB XML Bioinformatics

2008-02-27 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


I am in a whirlwind of re(?)installation confusion
revolving around making sure I have prerequisites
for a Bioinformatics progam.

Here is that program's installation page:

http://www.fruitfly.org/annot/apollo/install.html

I selected the Any UNIX to get this script called
apolloinst.bin that seems to just set up a bunch of
environment variables.  I got a JVM error

[:: clip command line ::]

zip232.tar.gz
kv_bsd#sh ./apolloinst.bin
Preparing to install...
Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
running this program.
kv_bsd#echo $PATH
/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin
kv_bsd#cp apolloinst.bin /usr/home/kayve
kv_bsd#uname -a
FreeBSD kv_bsd 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 10:40:27 UTC 
2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

kv_bsd#

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Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: sdf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

[::end clip::]

kv_bsd# is root prompt [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ is user prompt.

I was told to add the line JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/bin/java
to the script, but in the meantime I have been distracted
by reinstalling java.  Since my error message diagnostic
java [garbage] above shows that I do have a java, the
JVM error made me feel like reinstalling java (spurious
and impulsive, I know).

My Java 1.6 port installation has been proceeding for
over 30 hours now!  In the meanwhile, I decided to add
the Berkeley Oracle DB port, but got distracted by the
possibilities 1)vanilla (??) 2) Java DB or 3) XML DB

Are these three possibilities to all be installed, or
only one of them?   Anyway, with the java 1.6 make
still running (I know, nuts.. but fatal?) I decided
to make install clean /usr/ports/databases/dbXML and got this
message:

kv_bsd#cd dbXML/
kv_bsd#make install clean
===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
= dbXML-Core-1.0b2.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
= Attempting to fetch from 
http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/dbxml-core/.
dbXML-Core-1.0b2.tar.gz   100% of 4799 kB  293 kBps 
00m00s

===  Extracting for dbXML-1.0b2_2
= MD5 Checksum OK for dbXML-Core-1.0b2.tar.gz.
= SHA256 Checksum OK for dbXML-Core-1.0b2.tar.gz.
===  Patching for dbXML-1.0b2_2
===  Applying FreeBSD patches for dbXML-1.0b2_2
===  Configuring for dbXML-1.0b2_2
===  Installing for dbXML-1.0b2_2
===   dbXML-1.0b2_2 depends on file: /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/bin/java - not 
found
===Verifying install for /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/bin/java in 
/usr/ports/java/jdk13

===  jdk-1.3.1p9_8 :

 Due to licensing restrictions, certain files must be fetched manually.

 Please open 
http://www.sun.com/software/communitysource/j2se/java2/download.xml

 in a web browser and follow the Download link for the
 Java(TM) 2 SDK 1.3.1.  You will be required to log in and register,
 but you can create an account on this page.  After registration and
 accepting the Sun Community Source License, download the SCSL Source 
file,

 j2sdk-1_3_1-src.tar.gz.

 In addition, please download the patchset, bsd-jdk131-patches-9.tar.gz, 
from

 http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/jdk13.html.

 Then place the downloaded files in /usr/ports/distfiles and restart the 
build.


.*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/databases/dbXML.
kv_bsd#pwd
/usr/ports/databases/dbXML
kv_bsd#


Okay.  To boil it down, what is happening with Java 1.6, should
I kill it, and is it the right thing to get these older patches
and put them in /usr/ports/distfiles..

Oh, also, here are the patches I currently have for the jdks:

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/usr/ports/distfiles/bsd-jdk14-patches-8.tar.gz
/usr/ports/distfiles/bsd-jdk16-patches-3.tar.bz2
/usr/ports/distfiles/bsd-jdk16-patches-4.tar.bz2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

Does it make sense to keep patches for different versions, and
e.g. the jdk patch 3 and patch4 both being there, does that
make sense?  Is it okay to just get all that patches?  Is
it best to only have the most recent patch?  Does this depend
on other ports like dbXML that may NEED something in PARTICULAR
from a older patch from the current version or from an older
version?


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Re: usleep

2008-02-25 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


On Mon, 25 Feb 2008, Sharad Chandra wrote:

, [Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:]
| Am Freitag, 22. Februar 2008 11:28:42 schrieb Sharad Chandra:

I was looking some where and i found process switching time is around 10ms.
That means time slice is 10ms. say some peace of code just called usleep or
nanosleep and scheduling occurs so at least it will take 10 ms. I didn't find
sleeping more than 10 ms if usec = 1 to few us.



I hope I am not pandering the obvious here, but the metric prefix m 
stands for milli.


   1sec  = 1 000msec  1 000 000 usec



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Re: usleep

2008-02-22 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:


Am Freitag, 22. Februar 2008 11:28:42 schrieb Sharad Chandra:

Does usleep work for you? i just saw it is implemented over nanosleep
which passes a struct timeval to select.


Quoting from POSIX:


The usleep() function will cause the calling thread to be suspended from
execution until either the number of real-time microseconds specified by the
argument useconds has elapsed or a signal is delivered to the calling thread
and its action is to invoke a signal-catching function or to terminate the
process. The suspension time may be longer than requested due to the
scheduling of other activity by the system.



oh.. you DID say microseconds  .. i was going to assume complete 
ignorance in pointing out that u is used because it looks remotely

like the greek letter mu which is the metric abbreviation for micro
wich is 10^-6

hope i am not being real obvious.



See the last sentence, specifically.

So, yes, the behaviour you're seeing is pretty much expected, simply because
_user_ processes are scheduled in timeslices, which depend on the HZ setting
of the kernel.

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Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-27 Thread KAYVEN RIESE




On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Mike Meyer wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:55:53 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Mike Meyer wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:24:36 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:

KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:




thing, it's a fact of line in a multi-platform Unix environment.

my reason for bringing the whole thing up was based on the idea
that this person might be used to using *.rpm all the time


Well, maybe. But consider the context: they're looking at moving from
GNU/Linux to FreeBSD, so they're probably familiar with more than one
GNU/Linux distro, so there's a good chance they'ev seen more than just
rpms for system software distribution. Further, they're looking at



noticed that the binaries for other platforms weren't in rpms. Since
they're programmers, they've probably downloaded source distributions,
which are almost invariable tarballs of some sort or another.

In other words, the chances that they've only seen rpm file
distributions would seem to be vanishingly small, so there are things
that are far more likely to disrupt them - like the difference in



i feel like i have noticed some sites that only have rpms.  this is
more like the type of serious concern that i was concocting in my
own tiny mind.  however, if you simply note that its part of the
linux compatibility packages, then my concern is absolutely
unfounded and i will shut up  {:}




If you feel you have to mention it, then you should really talk about
the tools, not the formats: GNU/Linux distros tend to use rpm* or apt*
tools for installing and managing software packages, whereas FreeBSD
uses the pkg* tools.


and this
would be a difference he would experience moving to

freeBSD, if

this was the case.  if this is not the case for him, as you seem
to be implying, then.. well.. still.. he must know to avoid
*.rpm distributions in any case unless he installs a *.rpm compatibility
tool.  is that part of the linux-compat stuff that freeBSD has?


Just out of curiosity, where do you expect to find software for
FreeBSD in an rpm format? I don't think they exist, so *avoiding* them
wont' be a problem. Possibly wasting time looking for them might be,
but again, that seems really unlikely given the context, so there are
more important things to suggest they not waste time on, like
wandering how they upgrade just part of the base system.

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Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-26 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:


KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

i don't recognize that as what i said, but i was trying to make the
point that BSD DOESn't use rpm compression, and that was a point i
was trying to make in terms of comparison/contrast


I'm not sure what you mean by rpm compression, since rpm is not a
compression algorithm but a set of tools and a file format (based on
gzipped cpio archives) used by those tools.


gzip is compression.  okay it is an archiver.  all i know is that
standard old boys unix uses *.tgz which is a mix of compression
and archiving with tar.  i have only encountered rpm sporatically
because i have not done a lot of linux, but i know that when you
enounter a package to be installed it seemed to me *.rpm is an
alternative to *.tgz



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embedding pdf viewers in firefox

2008-01-26 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


kv_bsd# uname -a
FreeBSD kv_bsd 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 10:40:27 UTC 
2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

kv_bsd#

as you can see, i am running the freeBSD OS.  i have a gnome desktop.  i 
usually run firefox browser (i note that gnome has built in browser called 
ephinany).  i am dissatisfied with the fact that if i browse to a webpage 
that contains pdf content that i am  forced to save the file.
there seems to be an indigenous application that fires up when i double 
click the file. it is called evince 0.6.1 postScript and PDF File viewer 
using poppler 0.5.4  (cairo).  if i need to install something new that is 
fine, but i want to have some embedded application that

will view pdf content in situ instead of this cumbersome operation.

i posted that on a site called experts-exchange and got
this response:

danielcc:
if you are just viewing them from a search engine you can tell google to 
let them view as html which is nice... something else thats nice that you 
might be interested in is the firefox pdf veiwer plug in 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/636 ... you should just 
have to click open and view the file



this is not feeling right to me.  any advice?



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Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-26 Thread KAYVEN RIESE



On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Mike Meyer wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:24:36 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:

KAYVEN  RIESE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:




.rpm is a package format, and comes with a tool set for using it. Most
(all?) GNU/Linux systems come with tools for dealing with it, but they
all also come with tools for dealing with .tgz. Some GNU/Linux distros
use .rpm to distribute their software, but not all do. I don't think
any Unix systems have adopted it; most of them have packaging systems
that predate .rpm, and they're all different. Different package
formats for vendor software isn't a GNU/Linux vs. FreeBSD or Unix
thing, it's a fact of line in a multi-platform Unix environment.



my reason for bringing the whole thing up was based on the idea
that this person might be used to using *.rpm all the time and this
would be a difference he would experience moving to freeBSD, if
this was the case.  if this is not the case for him, as you seem
to be implying, then.. well.. still.. he must know to avoid
*.rpm distributions in any case unless he installs a *.rpm compatibility
tool.  is that part of the linux-compat stuff that freeBSD has?




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Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-25 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:


Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

GNU/Linux isn't tied to rpm's;


Actually, rpm is part of the Linux Standard Base specification, which
all major distributions implement.  Debian derivatives use dpkg, but
still have a full set of rpm tools.  Most distributions have higher-
level package management tools built on top of either rpm (like yum) or
dpkg (like apt), and in most cases the lower-level tools are only used
if something goes wrong.


i don't recognize that as what i said, but i was trying to make the
point that BSD DOESn't use rpm compression, and that was a point i
was trying to make in terms of comparison/contrast




there are other packaging systems in use by different distros,
including at least one that is based on the BSD ports system.


s/based on/inspired by/ if you're thinking of Gentoo.

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Re: firefox flash plug in woes

2008-01-25 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Braulio José Solano Rojas wrote:


On Fri, 25 de Enero de 2008, 1:31 pm, KAYVEN  RIESE wrote:


i have been told that freeBSD does not go well with
flash plugins for browsers, which is quite a ubiquitous
technology in websites.  is there any progress on this?
i have freeBSD 6.2-STABLE and gnome desktop


I think this subject is for questions not for hackers.  Anyway, install
Firefox for Linux from ports (I think DesktopBSD should come with this one
by default).  You will do fine with that.  By the way, I do Web
development and I always try to create accesible sites (like the current
FreeBSD.org site), therefore I tend to really hate Flash.  If you can
avoid it, do it.  Good luck!


i wanna goto youtube! {:}  i already have firefox installed, is there
a special port for linux firefox?  i better deinstall my existing firefox?





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firefox flash plug in woes

2008-01-25 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


i have been told that freeBSD does not go well with
flash plugins for browsers, which is quite a ubiquitous
technology in websites.  is there any progress on this?
i have freeBSD 6.2-STABLE and gnome desktop

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Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


I thought freeBSD 7 was still current bleeding edge?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:


william wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thanks for enlightening me on different aspects. Actually I found there are
many exciting network stack projects/overhaul happening in FreeBSD 8. I just
want to gear up myself and see what I can do. I have got 6.3 installed and
tweaking some of the kernel modification and compilation process so that i
can get myself acquainted to the software development process.


You should really, really upgrade to 7.  Nobody is doing any serious
work on 6 (beyond merging bug fixes back from 7); all the exciting work
happens in 8, and kernel patches against 8 will very rarely apply
cleanly to 6.


It seems that Juniper favors the even number FreeBSD's.


Only because 5 was a dog.  They probably stuck with 4 for a while, then
switched to 6 once they had ascertained that it was significantly more
stable than 5.  I would be surprised if they skipped 7.


So get to know about FB8 could be ahead of them :)


I very much doubt it.  Juniper employs several veteran FreeBSD
developers (and so does Cisco, for that matter).

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Re: FreeBSD hacker 101

2008-01-24 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


Aren't the ports collection something that makes freeBSD stand out
very differently than linux?  also, no rpm, and the pkg_add utility.
updating operating system with cvsup?  buildworld?  all these things
are different starkly, or are they not?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Xin LI wrote:


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

william wong wrote:

Hi,

Are there any docments or pointers to get me started hacking around my
6.3asap? Building toochains, submitting patches etc or i just
follow most
of the conventions in the Linux kernel development community?


I think it's nothing that different.  A typical way is that you find
something you are not happy with, i.e. what you think FreeBSD is lacking
of, do some proof of concept work, discuss it in the mailing list,
refine your work, submit patch, become a committer :-)

The only difference as far as I can tell is that FreeBSD tends to have
stricter code style guidelines (the only exceptions are what we call
vendor code which is maintained outside, this includes toolchains,
device drivers that is supported by vendors, in order to make future
upgrades easier).  However, unlike some other bad code style guidelines,
FreeBSD's coding style is very well documented (as in style(9)), and
following the guideline will make your code easier to read (e.g. think
about how to find the implementation with grep(1)?  Yes, grep ^function.).

We eager to see contributions from all aspects, but if you have no idea
for your own, or is looking for something to give a shot, you can check
out our projects idea page at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/ideas/ .

Small contributions, like making more documentation about various
sysctl's, etc. are more suitable for those who just started to learn
about the code and can not invest a lot of whole bunch of time on
FreeBSD (yet), are welcomed as well.

Another good start is to query our PR database (
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi ) and see if there is
something you have interest, but there is no fix, or there is a fix but
stayed for a long time and push them.

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insufficient power for Xcraft HD enclosure

2008-01-18 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


i got an Xcraft HD enclosure for real cheap (you get what you pay for, 
oops)


http://www.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?act=detailtbcate=32id=3219

it comes with a silly barebones manual that tells you to slide it in
and screw the screw or some such, not very helpful.  it also with a
USB connector that has one junction fitting the device coupled to
what i am calling a daisy chain of two USB connectors.  i have taken
pictures of all these things and put it on the web:

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/index.vhtml
there are a total of over 1000 pix, mostly dmesg, but
crucial ones

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/dmesg/PB12001901.vhtml

showing my model #M6800N ASUS notebook

travelstar hitachi decal

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/jumpers/PC170027.vhtml

and an album of 28  photos closeups of the guts of the enclosure

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/jumpers/index.vhtml

BIOS doesn't see the HD

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/bioshd/index.vhtml

and the first of a series of pictures documenting experiments
with plugging the two USB junctions into the laptop

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/bioshd/p1100033.vhtml

it hangs differently depending on the USB connection configuration.
i have been told that it is meant to draw power via the USB connections,
but that the power of my laptop is insufficient to spin the drive.
can anyone offer any ideas, perhaps an external power source, is
it possible to buy such an accessory without spending the equivalent
an entire computer, hopefully less than $30, i don't know?

i was told to futz with the jumpers but i am not sure how to do
that.


TeRReF:
No, no. Unscrewing will ruin the HD for sure. These settings:
http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/jumpers/PC170031.vhtml

relate to the group of 4 pins you see here (the group on the left):
http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/jumpers/PC170021.vhtml

As you can see on the first pic, there is a little rectangular device that 
is used to connect two pins so you can alter the settings. No rectangular 
device at all means the HD is set to master for instance.


I think the current setting is the right one. If you still have that 
rectangular thingy, you could try the other two settings.





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mplayer failure /usr/ports/UPDATING entry 20070519

2008-01-18 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


i am trying to install plugins for my firefox browser

kv_bsd# uname -a
FreeBSD kv_bsd 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 10:40:27 UTC 
2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

kv_bsd#

i am running gnome2

my make ran into the following error:

===Verifying install for /usr/local/libdata/xorg/libraries in 
/usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries

/usr/X11R6 exists, but it is not a symlink. Installation cannot proceed.
This looks like an incompletely removed old version of X.  In the current 
version, /usr/X11R6 must be a symlink if it exists at all.Please read 
/usr/ports/UPDATING (entry of 20070519) for the procedure to upgrade X.org 
related ports.*** Error code 1


Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xorg-libraries.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer.
kv_bsd#

i followed a bunch of the instructions in /usr/ports/UPDATING entry 
20070519.. one failure was here:


kv_bsd# /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -Rf LibXft
** No such installed package: LibXft
kv_bsd#

i ignored it and went to the next step. i haven't done anything
about gstreamer, i THINK.. pkgdb -F seemed to go allright..
but then when i was using mergebase.sh  i noted that all of
the crucial varialbles were blank:

Enter 'yes' to continue, anything else will exit script:
Aborted.
kv_bsd# echo $X11BASE $LOCALBASE $BACKUPDIR
X11BASE: Undefined variable.
kv_bsd# echo $LOCALBASE $BACKUPDIR
LOCALBASE: Undefined variable.
kv_bsd# echo $BACKUPDIR
BACKUPDIR: Undefined variable.
kv_bsd# sh /usr/ports/Tools/scripts/mergebase.sh


that didn't feel right.. but i hit yes.. but then i
got to here:

Enter 'yes' to continue, anything else will exit script: yes
CONFLICTING FILES:
./man/whatis
./share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
./share/gnome/applications/mimeinfo.cache
./share/mime/XMLnamespaces
./share/mime/aliases
./share/mime/globs
./share/mime/magic
./share/mime/mime.cache
./share/mime/subclasses

Files that exist both in /usr/local and /usr/X11R6 have been found as 
shown above. Merging will not continue.
While some such files are safe to remove as they will be regenerated (like 
/usr/X11R6/man/whatis), some you might want to move away somewhere safe, 
and some might point to conflicts in ports.
For this script to continue, you need to either move these files away from 
/usr/X11R6 or delete them. If you don't know what to do about a particular 
file, ask on [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.

The list is saved in /tmp/mergebase.KRqFzl0P.
kv_bsd#


i decided i had a headache.  should i just press on anyway?

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Re: quest for USB only mouse operation

2007-12-28 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


darn  {:( no go.  here is what i have in there now

moused_enable=YES
#moused_ums_enable=NO
#moused_port=/dev/ums0
#moused_type=auto

logged on, i can fix it with these two commands:

killall moused
moused -p /dev/ums0

or wait.. i can't.  i'm confused again:

kv_bsd# killall moused
kv_bsd# moused -p /dev/ums0
kv_bsd# killall moused
kv_bsd# moused -p /dev/psm0
moused: unable to open /dev/psm0: Device busy
kv_bsd# killall moused
No matching processes were found
kv_bsd# moused -p /dev/psm0
moused: unable to open /dev/psm0: Device busy
kv_bsd# moused -p /dev/ums0
kv_bsd#

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Callum Gibson wrote:


On 26Dec07 10:38, KAYVEN RIESE wrote:

moused_enable=YES
moused_port=/dev/ums0
moused_type=auto


Have you tried (in /etc/rc.conf):

moused_psm_enable=NO
moused_ums_enable=YES

which should disable moused on the /dev/psm0 port but leave it running
on the usb port.

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Re: quest for USB only mouse operation

2007-12-28 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007, Callum Gibson wrote:



moused_enable=YES
moused_psm_enable=NO


both mice are on after reboot  {:(


BTW, are you testing this at the console rather than in X11? Get it working
there first, as there are additional settings which could affect things
once you start X.


i'm not sure how to do this.  gnome comes up on startup.



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Re: quest for USB only mouse operation

2007-12-28 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007, Callum Gibson wrote:


On 28Dec07 14:09, KAYVEN RIESE wrote:

Ok, as far as I can tell you want a moused on ums, but not psm.

}It seems to me that it gets confusing, depending on how rc.conf is
}set on startup, but from dmesg output that seems to be the case:
}kv_bsd# dmesg | grep psm
}psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
}psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
}psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
}kv_bsd# dmesg | grep ums
}ums0: vendor 0x Macally Optigo USB Mouse, rev 1.10/6.30, addr 2, iclass
}3/1
}ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.

Those are just devices, not moused's. If you ps axw | grep moused you
can see the moused processes, one for each device.


i understand that, but i was giving this information to beat the dead
horse about the fact that psm0 for lack of a better guess is the touchpad,
while the information on ums0 matches brandnames printed on my USB mouse
(in addition to it being labeled USB)

here is an online photo album with 3 pictures showing this information:

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/mousie/index.vhtml

in case yer interested  {:)




BTW, are you testing this at the console rather than in X11? Get it
working
there first, as there are additional settings which could affect things
once you start X.

}gnome fires up on startup.. umm.. i have to control backspace out or
}something?  {:P i am a little newbie-ish on some of this stuff, sorry.

My replies will be a bit sporadic now - got to have breakfast and get on
with the day.

Ok, let's determine that there is only one moused running to start with
using the ps method above and worry about X later. If you can get it down
to one moused at boot you will be half way there. If you find the touchpad
still operates after that, then X is going to the psm device direct.



oh jeez

kv_bsd# ps axw | grep moused
  957  ??  Ss 0:01.58 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0
 1066  p1  RV 0:00.00 grep moused (csh)
kv_bsd#


i just realized that the mice are currently working correctly..

{:/ but this has happened before..

kv_bsd# head -12 /etc/rc.conf

# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sun Dec  2 03:03:56 2007
# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sun Dec  2 10:47:16 2007
# Created: Sun Dec  2 10:47:16 2007
# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
# Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
linux_enable=YES
moused_enable=YES
moused_psm0_port=/dev/null
#moused_port=/dev/ums0
#moused_type=auto
kv_bsd#

it's probably fine that you are going to go sporadic on me for
the moment because i don't feel like rebooting at the moment.




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Re: Synaptics

2007-12-26 Thread KAYVEN RIESE


I have a USB mouse and I want to disable my touchpad.

I am going to resend my post, I had originally posted to
freebsd-hardware but now I am going to post to
freebsd-hackers

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007, Giulio Ferro wrote:


Donnie wrote:

On Dec 12, 10:51 am, Giulio Ferro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Unfortunately those settings are already specified in /e
tc/X11/xorg.conf in the
section InputDevice for thetouchpad.

If you look in the /usr/ports/x11-drivers/synaptics/pkg-message it's all
already there



I had the same problem, but finally happened on this solution:
despite what the pkg-message says, in xorg.conf you have to specify
both a non-existent mouse and the touchpad, in addition to following
all the other pkg-message directions.  So, my xorg.conf has:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 AlwaysCore
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
InputDeviceSynaptics_Touchpad CorePointer
EndSection

### Note that touchpad MUST be CorePointer and non-existent mouse must
be AlwaysCore ###

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
EndSection

Section InputDevice
  IdentifierSynaptics_Touchpad
  Driversynaptics
  OptionSendCoreEvents
  OptionDevice  /dev/psm0
  OptionProtocolpsm
  OptionTouchpadOff   0
  OptionLeftEdge  1700
  OptionRightEdge 5300
  OptionTopEdge   1700
  OptionBottomEdge4200
  OptionFingerLow   25
  OptionFingerHigh  30
  OptionMaxTapTime  180
  OptionMaxTapMove  220
  OptionVertScrollDelta 100
  OptionMinSpeed0.06
  OptionMaxSpeed0.06
  OptionAccelFactor 0.0010
  OptionHorizScrollDelta100
  OptionUpDownScrolling   on
  OptionUpDownRepeat  on
  OptionLeftRightScrollingon
  OptionLeftRightRepeat   on
  OptionSHMConfig   on
EndSection

Good luck!

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Doesn't work, sorry. The server starts, but the mouse pointer isn't moving.

Anyway I'm not sure this is the right way to do thinks. I'd dearly like to 
listen from

the maintainer, maybe it can shed some light on the /dev/input/event issue...

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Re: quest for USB only mouse operation

2007-12-26 Thread KAYVEN RIESE

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, KAYVEN  RIESE wrote:



i have an ASUS laptop that i have photodocumented excessively:

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/index.vhtml

e.g. model decal:

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/dmesg/PB12001901.vhtml

i am trying to disable the touchpad mouse that i accidentally
brush and instead make my Macally Optigo

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/mousie/index.vhtml

USB mouse the only way to move my gnome pointer (i hope
i shouldn't have tried the gnome list, but this seems
sort of hardware-y)

at the command line this operation was successsful:


killall moused
moused -p /dev/ums0

here is a process display (prompt is kv_bsd#)

kv_bsd# ps -A | grep moused
 527  ??  Ss 0:02.02 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I 
/var/run/moused.ums0.pid

 718  ??  Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto
kv_bsd#

the goal here, is to getting this working on startup. we tried
editing a config file catted below:

kv_bsd# cat /etc/rc.conf

# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sun Dec  2 03:03:56 2007
# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Sun Dec  2 10:47:16 2007
# Created: Sun Dec  2 10:47:16 2007
# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
# Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
linux_enable=YES
moused_enable=YES
moused_port=/dev/ums0
moused_type=auto
gdm_enable=YES
sshd_enable=YES
ntpdate_flags=ntp1.mainecoon.com
ntpdate_enable=YES
usbd_enable=YES
ifconfig_bge0=inet 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0
defaultrouter=192.168.0.1
hostname=kv_bsd
tcp_extensions=YES
kv_bsd#


but that caused the touchpad to be dominant, i.e. the USB
mouse no longer works at all.

(an aside.. before someone tells me to do it in the
BIOS, i don't think i can.  however, i have taken pictures
of all the windows of my BIOS here:

http://www.monkeyview.net/id/965/fsck/bios/index.vhtml)

tried this:

echo /usr/bin/killall moused ; sleep 1 ; /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0  
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/usbmouse


here is some dmesg info:

kv_bsd# dmesg | grep mouse
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
kv_bsd#


what follows is cut from dmesg

psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0

more dmesg.. that's the mousie i want right there

ums0: vendor 0x Macally Optigo USB Mouse, rev 1.10/6.30, addr 2, iclass 
3/1

ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.

and this didn't work either:


System-Preferences-Sessions

THen the Startup Programs tab, the Add button and then add this one:
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/usbmouse


more things i tried

kv_bsd# ps -A | grep mouse
 529  ??  Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I 
/var/run/mou

 959  p0  I+ 0:00.01 vi /usr/local/etc/rc.d/usbmouse
kv_bsd# ps -A | grep mouse
 529  ??  Is 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/ums0 -t auto -I 
/var/run/moused.ums0.pid

 959  p0  I+ 0:00.01 vi /usr/local/etc/rc.d/usbmouse
 963  p1  S+ 0:00.00 grep mouse
kv_bsd# dmseg | grep ums
dmseg: Command not found.
kv_bsd# dmesg | grep ums
ums0: vendor 0x Macally Optigo USB Mouse, rev 1.10/6.30, addr 2, iclass 
3/1

ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir.
kv_bsd# moused -p /dev/ums0
moused: unable to open /dev/ums0: Device busy
kv_bsd# moused -p /dev/psm0
moused: unable to open /dev/psm0: Device busy
kv_bsd#

i hope i wasn't too lengthy about it  {:P

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