Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-02-26 Thread Tony Finch

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 09:41:15AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
 
 A FreeBSD 1.X CVS tree has been found, which has it's first import as
 386BSD 0.1 + PK 024.  There are a couple minor points that need to be
 clarified from Caldera before it can be made public.

Has there been any more progress with this?

Tony.

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-02-26 Thread Nate Williams

  A FreeBSD 1.X CVS tree has been found, which has it's first import as
  386BSD 0.1 + PK 024.  There are a couple minor points that need to be
  clarified from Caldera before it can be made public.
 
 Has there been any more progress with this?

There have been no clarifications from Caldera, AFAIK.  At least,
nothing I've heard about. :(



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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-31 Thread David O'Brien

On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 10:00:03AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
  A FreeBSD 1.X CVS tree has been found, which has it's first import as
  386BSD 0.1 + PK 024.  There are a couple minor points that need to be
  clarified from Caldera before it can be made public.
 
 There are?  What are they?  Who's doing it?

I put a FreeBSD 1.x CVS tree in my Freefall home dir.
I would make it public, but I really don't have a good place to make it
so.

I am not sure if the CVS repo in my home dir contains all of the above.

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-30 Thread Wilko Bulte

On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 11:53:41PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nate Williams write
 s:
 
  Caldera's License Agreement:
  
  http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf
 
 Thanks.  However, this isn't as specific as I'd like it to be.  It
 implies that Net1/Net2 are now 'legal', but it doesn't give explicit
 release of said source code.
 
 Well, I have never heard claims that BSD was tainted by any USL
 release besides 32V, so this is good enough for me to put my 1.X
 tree up without fearing ugly lawyers.
 
 Now, where did all those CD's go...

If all else fails I have stored my FreeBSD 1.0 CD as a precious
gem ;) Cannot find the 386BSD 0.1 + PK024 QIC tape though :(

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-30 Thread Nate Williams

   Caldera's License Agreement:
   
   http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf
  
  Thanks.  However, this isn't as specific as I'd like it to be.  It
  implies that Net1/Net2 are now 'legal', but it doesn't give explicit
  release of said source code.
  
  Well, I have never heard claims that BSD was tainted by any USL
  release besides 32V, so this is good enough for me to put my 1.X
  tree up without fearing ugly lawyers.
  
  Now, where did all those CD's go...
 
 If all else fails I have stored my FreeBSD 1.0 CD as a precious
 gem ;) Cannot find the 386BSD 0.1 + PK024 QIC tape though :(

A FreeBSD 1.X CVS tree has been found, which has it's first import as
386BSD 0.1 + PK 024.  There are a couple minor points that need to be
clarified from Caldera before it can be made public.


Nate


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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-30 Thread Stijn Hoop

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 09:41:15AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
 A FreeBSD 1.X CVS tree has been found, which has it's first import as
 386BSD 0.1 + PK 024.  There are a couple minor points that need to be
 clarified from Caldera before it can be made public.

Just curious, but will this be folded in the main CVS tree, or will it be
available as a separate tree/cvsup dist? I'd imagine that the CVS hackery
needed to implement the former takes a lot of time...

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-30 Thread Nate Williams

  A FreeBSD 1.X CVS tree has been found, which has it's first import as
  386BSD 0.1 + PK 024.  There are a couple minor points that need to be
  clarified from Caldera before it can be made public.
 
 Just curious, but will this be folded in the main CVS tree, or will it be
 available as a separate tree/cvsup dist? I'd imagine that the CVS hackery
 needed to implement the former takes a lot of time...

It would be *way* too much work to fold it into the release.  You'd end
up with a completely different CVS tree, and have little/no gain from
doing it.

I also don't see the FreeBSD project making it available as a CVSup dist
either.  *IF* it's made publically available, I could see it as a port
or something like that.



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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

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On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 09:41:15AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
 A FreeBSD 1.X CVS tree has been found, which has it's first import as
 386BSD 0.1 + PK 024.  There are a couple minor points that need to be
 clarified from Caldera before it can be made public.

Just curious, but will this be folded in the main CVS tree, or will it be
available as a separate tree/cvsup dist? I'd imagine that the CVS hackery
needed to implement the former takes a lot of time...

It will not be folded in.

But if somebody were into a _real_ tour de force of history, they
would try to slurp all of the true UNIX's into a joint tree now,
CVS is probably not up to it, but perforce might be.

now _THAT_ would be usable history online... :-)


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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-30 Thread Stijn Hoop

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 06:57:37PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stijn Hoop writes:
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 09:41:15AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
  A FreeBSD 1.X CVS tree has been found, which has it's first import as
  386BSD 0.1 + PK 024.  There are a couple minor points that need to be
  clarified from Caldera before it can be made public.
 
 Just curious, but will this be folded in the main CVS tree, or will it be
 available as a separate tree/cvsup dist? I'd imagine that the CVS hackery
 needed to implement the former takes a lot of time...
 
 It will not be folded in.
 
 But if somebody were into a _real_ tour de force of history, they
 would try to slurp all of the true UNIX's into a joint tree now,
 CVS is probably not up to it, but perforce might be.
 
 now _THAT_ would be usable history online... :-)

Not to mention an incredably cool and insane job at the same time! (but
I'm not applying :)

Points noted, I'm anxious to see the code, whether as a port or something
else. To Caldera, a compliment in advance: thanks for letting this piece of
history get out!

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-30 Thread Greg Lehey

On Wednesday, 30 January 2002 at  9:41:15 -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
 Caldera's License Agreement:

 http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf

 Thanks.  However, this isn't as specific as I'd like it to be.  It
 implies that Net1/Net2 are now 'legal', but it doesn't give explicit
 release of said source code.

 Well, I have never heard claims that BSD was tainted by any USL
 release besides 32V, so this is good enough for me to put my 1.X
 tree up without fearing ugly lawyers.

 Now, where did all those CD's go...

 If all else fails I have stored my FreeBSD 1.0 CD as a precious
 gem ;) Cannot find the 386BSD 0.1 + PK024 QIC tape though :(

 A FreeBSD 1.X CVS tree has been found, which has it's first import as
 386BSD 0.1 + PK 024.  There are a couple minor points that need to be
 clarified from Caldera before it can be made public.

There are?  What are they?  Who's doing it?

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FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Tony Finch

Now that ancient unix has been relicensed with an old-style BSD licence,
is the FreeBSD-1.X cvs repository going to be made public?

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Finch writes:
Now that ancient unix has been relicensed with an old-style BSD licence,
is the FreeBSD-1.X cvs repository going to be made public?

I hope so.

Unless I'm convinced not to, my version will go online whenever I
find the CD it's on...

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Nate Williams

 Now that ancient unix has been relicensed with an old-style BSD licence,
 is the FreeBSD-1.X cvs repository going to be made public?

Out of curiousity, why?

And, where have you heard that it's been relicensed?



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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Dominic Marks

On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 03:37:13PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
  Now that ancient unix has been relicensed with an old-style BSD licence,
  is the FreeBSD-1.X cvs repository going to be made public?
 
 Out of curiousity, why?

Out of curiousity :)

Perhaps for the same reasons I spent a half an hour getting BSD 2.11
running on a PDP-11 emulator.

 And, where have you heard that it's been relicensed?
 

http://minnie.tuhs.org/PUPS/

 Quote:
 24th January 2002
 Caldera have released several of the Ancient UNIX versions under a
 BSD-style license. See their license agreement for more details.

Caldera's License Agreement:

http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf

 
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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Tony Finch

On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 10:47:04PM +, Dominic Marks wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 03:37:13PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
   Now that ancient unix has been relicensed with an old-style BSD licence,
   is the FreeBSD-1.X cvs repository going to be made public?
  
  Out of curiousity, why?
 
 Out of curiousity :)

Kirk was surprised by how popular the CSRG archives CDs are.

  And, where have you heard that it's been relicensed?
 
 http://minnie.tuhs.org/PUPS/

There's also a link from Caldera's own site
http://www.caldera.com/company/news/

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Miguel Mendez

On Tuesday 29 January 2002 23:37, Nate Williams wrote:

Hi,

 Out of curiousity, why?

Why not? It will be fun to have a look at it.

 And, where have you heard that it's been relicensed?


It was anounced some days ago, check the Caldera site.
(This too http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/01/24/0146248)

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Nate Williams

Now that ancient unix has been relicensed with an old-style BSD licence,
is the FreeBSD-1.X cvs repository going to be made public?
   
   Out of curiousity, why?
  
  Out of curiousity :)
 
 Kirk was surprised by how popular the CSRG archives CDs are.

I got one of those too. :)

   And, where have you heard that it's been relicensed?
  
  http://minnie.tuhs.org/PUPS/
 
 There's also a link from Caldera's own site
 http://www.caldera.com/company/news/

Thanks.  I'm going to wait and see what happens w/regards to the talking
heads on this, and if the consensus is that it's legal to post, I'll
upload the bits to freefall.


Nate

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nate Williams write
s:

 Caldera's License Agreement:
 
 http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf

Thanks.  However, this isn't as specific as I'd like it to be.  It
implies that Net1/Net2 are now 'legal', but it doesn't give explicit
release of said source code.

Well, I have never heard claims that BSD was tainted by any USL
release besides 32V, so this is good enough for me to put my 1.X
tree up without fearing ugly lawyers.

Now, where did all those CD's go...

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Tony Finch

On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 03:50:22PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
 
 Thanks.  However, this isn't as specific as I'd like it to be.  It
 implies that Net1/Net2 are now 'legal', but it doesn't give explicit
 release of said source code.

Doesn't the text at the start of the letter explicitly say that?

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Nate Williams

  Caldera's License Agreement:
  
  http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf
 
 Thanks.  However, this isn't as specific as I'd like it to be.  It
 implies that Net1/Net2 are now 'legal', but it doesn't give explicit
 release of said source code.
 
 Well, I have never heard claims that BSD was tainted by any USL
 release besides 32V, so this is good enough for me to put my 1.X tree
 up without fearing ugly lawyers.

Ahh, the advantages of being overseas, away from litigious lawyers. :)



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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Tony Finch

On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 03:55:04PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
 
 Thanks.  I'm going to wait and see what happens w/regards to the talking
 heads on this, and if the consensus is that it's legal to post, I'll
 upload the bits to freefall.

I'll note that this happened because of the efforts of the Unix
Heritage Society, and their archive (which until recently was
password-protected and required a free licence from SCO, like
the CSRG CDs) is now public. See http://www.tuhs.org/ and
http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2002-January/thread.html.

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nate Williams write
s:
  Caldera's License Agreement:
  
  http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf
 
 Thanks.  However, this isn't as specific as I'd like it to be.  It
 implies that Net1/Net2 are now 'legal', but it doesn't give explicit
 release of said source code.
 
 Well, I have never heard claims that BSD was tainted by any USL
 release besides 32V, so this is good enough for me to put my 1.X tree
 up without fearing ugly lawyers.

Ahh, the advantages of being overseas, away from litigious lawyers. :)

No not really, I just can't imagine who would be paying the laywers
now that Caldera has marched their standard on the OSS side.

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg

 Tony == Tony Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Tony I'll note that this happened because of the efforts of the
Tony Unix Heritage Society, and their archive (which until recently
Tony was password-protected and required a free licence from SCO,

... and prior to that, the US$100 version of the license. For which
they took my money, and then sent me someone elses license 8-P

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Greg Lehey

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 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:55:04 -0700
 From: Nate Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tony Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Dominic Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Nate Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?
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 Now that ancient unix has been relicensed with an old-style BSD licence,
 is the FreeBSD-1.X cvs repository going to be made public?

 Out of curiousity, why?

 Out of curiousity :)

 Kirk was surprised by how popular the CSRG archives CDs are.

 I got one of those too. :)

 And, where have you heard that it's been relicensed?

 http://minnie.tuhs.org/PUPS/

 There's also a link from Caldera's own site
 http://www.caldera.com/company/news/

 Thanks.  I'm going to wait and see what happens w/regards to the
 talking heads on this, and if the consensus is that it's legal to
 post, I'll upload the bits to freefall.

It's legal.  Here's the original message.  I'm also copying Dion
Johnson.  Dion, as I'm sure you're aware, we took the FreeBSD 1.x
sources offline because they were tainted with ATT code.  Now that
32V is free, there should be no further problem releasing them, right?

Greg

 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:03:37 -0800
 From: Dion Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   John Terpstra [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Liberal license for ancient UNIX sources

 Dear Warren, and friends,

 I'm happy to let you know that Caldera International has placed
 the ancient UNIX releases (V1-7 and 32V) under a BSD-style license.
 I've attached a PDF of the license letter hereto.  Feel free to
 propogate it as you see fit.

 I apologize that this has taken so long.  We do not have a well
 regulated archive of these ancient releases, so we must depend
 upon you UNIX enthusiasts, historians, and original authors to
 help the community of interested parties figure out exactly what
 is available, where, and how.

 Many thanks to Warren Toomey, of PUPS, and to Caldera's Bill
 Broderick, director of licensing services here.  Both of these
 gentlemen were instrumental in making this happen.  And thanks
 to our CEO, Ransom Love, whose vision for Caldera International
 prescribes cooperation and mutual respect for the open source
 communities.

 Of course, there are thousands of other people who should be
 acknowledged.  I regret I do not have time or wisdom to make
 a list of them all, but maybe someone does, or has.

 Anyway, here it is.  Feel free to write to us if you want to
 understand more about how/why Caldera International has released
 this code, or you have any other comments that we should hear.

 Sincerely,

 Dion L. Johnson II - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Product Manager and one of many open source enthusiasts in Caldera Intl.

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Tony Finch

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:05:20AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
 Nate Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks.  I'm going to wait and see what happens w/regards to the
  talking heads on this, and if the consensus is that it's legal to
  post, I'll upload the bits to freefall.
 
 It's legal.  Here's the original message.  I'm also copying Dion
 Johnson.  Dion, as I'm sure you're aware, we took the FreeBSD 1.x
 sources offline because they were tainted with ATT code.  Now that
 32V is free, there should be no further problem releasing them, right?

What about http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/2002-January/28.html
which concerns the Berkeley patches to the ATT code?

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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Dion Johnson

Greg,

Yes it is most certainly our intent to free up the ancient Unix
sources so that they can be used, essentially, for anything.
Caldera asks for some acknowledgement, and disclaims all the
usual stuff.

I cant completely answer the question about your archives since I
have not examined them and I dont know what other taint may be
present.  But as far as the ancient Unix, and the ATT source
license requirement is concerned, I think this part of the
problem has gone away.

Caldera really does want this to be a happy, open source party
of geek fun.  We are not looking to trick anyone with secret
legal viruses hidden in the code, or dark incantations buried
in the fine print. ;-)  

Write me if anyone has any questions or wants more reassurances.
-Dion

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On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:05:20AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
 - Forwarded message from Nate Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
  Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:55:04 -0700
  From: Nate Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Tony Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Dominic Marks [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  Nate Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?
  X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 14) Cuyahoga Valley XEmacs Lucid
 
  Now that ancient unix has been relicensed with an old-style BSD licence,
  is the FreeBSD-1.X cvs repository going to be made public?
 
  Out of curiousity, why?
 
  Out of curiousity :)
 
  Kirk was surprised by how popular the CSRG archives CDs are.
 
  I got one of those too. :)
 
  And, where have you heard that it's been relicensed?
 
  http://minnie.tuhs.org/PUPS/
 
  There's also a link from Caldera's own site
  http://www.caldera.com/company/news/
 
  Thanks.  I'm going to wait and see what happens w/regards to the
  talking heads on this, and if the consensus is that it's legal to
  post, I'll upload the bits to freefall.
 
 It's legal.  Here's the original message.  I'm also copying Dion
 Johnson.  Dion, as I'm sure you're aware, we took the FreeBSD 1.x
 sources offline because they were tainted with ATT code.  Now that
 32V is free, there should be no further problem releasing them, right?
 
 Greg
 
  Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:03:37 -0800
  From: Dion Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  John Terpstra [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Liberal license for ancient UNIX sources
 
  Dear Warren, and friends,
 
  I'm happy to let you know that Caldera International has placed
  the ancient UNIX releases (V1-7 and 32V) under a BSD-style license.
  I've attached a PDF of the license letter hereto.  Feel free to
  propogate it as you see fit.
 
  I apologize that this has taken so long.  We do not have a well
  regulated archive of these ancient releases, so we must depend
  upon you UNIX enthusiasts, historians, and original authors to
  help the community of interested parties figure out exactly what
  is available, where, and how.
 
  Many thanks to Warren Toomey, of PUPS, and to Caldera's Bill
  Broderick, director of licensing services here.  Both of these
  gentlemen were instrumental in making this happen.  And thanks
  to our CEO, Ransom Love, whose vision for Caldera International
  prescribes cooperation and mutual respect for the open source
  communities.
 
  Of course, there are thousands of other people who should be
  acknowledged.  I regret I do not have time or wisdom to make
  a list of them all, but maybe someone does, or has.
 
  Anyway, here it is.  Feel free to write to us if you want to
  understand more about how/why Caldera International has released
  this code, or you have any other comments that we should hear.
 
  Sincerely,
 
  Dion L. Johnson II - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Product Manager and one of many open source enthusiasts in Caldera Intl.
 
  Paul Hatch - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Public Relations Manager at Caldera International
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Re: FreeBSD-1.X public cvs?

2002-01-29 Thread Greg Lehey

On Tuesday, 29 January 2002 at 15:56:32 -0800, Dion Johnson wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:05:20AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote:
 On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:55:04 -0700, Nate Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And, where have you heard that it's been relicensed?

 http://minnie.tuhs.org/PUPS/

 There's also a link from Caldera's own site
 http://www.caldera.com/company/news/

 Thanks.  I'm going to wait and see what happens w/regards to the
 talking heads on this, and if the consensus is that it's legal to
 post, I'll upload the bits to freefall.

 It's legal.  Here's the original message.  I'm also copying Dion
 Johnson.  Dion, as I'm sure you're aware, we took the FreeBSD 1.x
 sources offline because they were tainted with ATT code.  Now that
 32V is free, there should be no further problem releasing them, right?

 Yes it is most certainly our intent to free up the ancient Unix
 sources so that they can be used, essentially, for anything.
 Caldera asks for some acknowledgement, and disclaims all the
 usual stuff.

 I cant completely answer the question about your archives since I
 have not examined them and I dont know what other taint may be
 present.  But as far as the ancient Unix, and the ATT source
 license requirement is concerned, I think this part of the
 problem has gone away.

Well, we restricted access to the repository only because of the USL
lawsuit, so I'm pretty confident that there's nothing else in there
which we know about.

 Caldera really does want this to be a happy, open source party of
 geek fun.  We are not looking to trick anyone with secret legal
 viruses hidden in the code, or dark incantations buried in the fine
 print. ;-)

Thanks :-)

Greg
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