Re: VMware 3 on FreeBSD?
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:20:12AM +0100, Bruce M Simpson wrote: Having said that though, I have had 3.0 running as well as 2.0, under ^^ Can you elaborate a bit more please? Probably your definition of 'running' is less strict than mine. Mark -- Mark Santcroos RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.ripe.net/home/mark/ New Projects Group/TTM To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware 3 on FreeBSD?
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 12:37:47PM +0200, Mark Santcroos wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:20:12AM +0100, Bruce M Simpson wrote: Having said that though, I have had 3.0 running as well as 2.0, under ^^ Can you elaborate a bit more please? Probably your definition of 'running' is less strict than mine. As in, just dumped the executables onto the box, and had it run - I haven't attempted to run any guest OSes yet. The USB functionality looks like it's going to need either a userland ELF redirection (via the LD_PRELOAD mechanism) to 'pretend' to field Linux usdevfs requests. Either that or we're going to need to port (hack, spit) usbdevfs. The userland solution is probably quicker to punt out and code (map open/ioctl and other syscalls, match by path, onto /dev/ugen*) than porting usbdevfs. Joe Karthausen is talking about making this a project (porting 3.1). Less talk more rock? :-) BMS To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware 3 on FreeBSD?
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:23:51PM +0100, Bruce M Simpson wrote: On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 12:37:47PM +0200, Mark Santcroos wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:20:12AM +0100, Bruce M Simpson wrote: Having said that though, I have had 3.0 running as well as 2.0, under ^^ Can you elaborate a bit more please? Probably your definition of 'running' is less strict than mine. As in, just dumped the executables onto the box, and had it run - I haven't attempted to run any guest OSes yet. You have it running?! I'm still struggling to get a vmmon module, without which vmware spits out this indefinitely: VMware Workstation Error: Could not open /dev/vmmon: No such file or directory. Please make sure that the kernel module `vmmon' is loaded. Press Enter to continue... I've tried grabbing the sources for the 2.x vmware modules but a lot of patches fail... The USB functionality looks like it's going to need either a userland ELF redirection (via the LD_PRELOAD mechanism) to 'pretend' to field Linux usdevfs requests. Either that or we're going to need to port (hack, spit) usbdevfs. The userland solution is probably quicker to punt out and code (map open/ioctl and other syscalls, match by path, onto /dev/ugen*) than porting usbdevfs. Way above my head :) Joe Karthausen is talking about making this a project (porting 3.1). Less talk more rock? :-) Trying to, but not succeeding... --Stijn -- I wish there was a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence. There's a knob called `brightness', but it doesn't work. -- Gallagher msg36676/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: VMware 3 on FreeBSD?
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 03:31:59PM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote: You have it running?! I'm still struggling to get a vmmon module, without [snip] Ah. I installed the vmware2 port, *then* the vmware3 rpm (using rpm2cpio). This just used the existing vmmon module. I assume more tweaking will be necessary as was the case for vmware2. [snip] Way above my head :) This is purely speculation as to how USB devices might be handled. BMS To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware 3 on FreeBSD?
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:54:06PM +0100, Bruce M Simpson wrote: On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 03:31:59PM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote: You have it running?! I'm still struggling to get a vmmon module, without [snip] Ah. I installed the vmware2 port, *then* the vmware3 rpm (using rpm2cpio). This just used the existing vmmon module. I assume more tweaking will be necessary as was the case for vmware2. I'll try that tomorrow. The sources for the vmmon-module are a bit different at least, so I'm surprised it works, but I'm ready to give it a try :) [snip] Way above my head :) This is purely speculation as to how USB devices might be handled. Maybe someone more in the know can port the usbdevfs (as an aside, is that a Linuxism? Why not use a standard devfs?) --Stijn -- Beware of he who would deny you access to information. For in his heart he thinks himself your master. -- Sid Meyer, Sid Meyer's Alpha Centauri msg36678/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: VMware 3 on FreeBSD?
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 04:30:30PM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote: This is purely speculation as to how USB devices might be handled. Maybe someone more in the know can port the usbdevfs (as an aside, is that a Linuxism? Why not use a standard devfs?) usbdevfs is a Linuxism. devfs's semantics are totally different. Porting it would allow Linux native applications, such as VMware and Linux-compiled userland USB drivers, to operate under FreeBSD. It would also mean that proprietary USB devices could be operated within guest operating systems, and perhaps reverse engineered more easily. I think this is one of the things Joe was driving at. BMS To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware 3 on FreeBSD?
Ah. I installed the vmware2 port, *then* the vmware3 rpm (using rpm2cpio). This just used the existing vmmon module. I assume more tweaking will be necessary as was the case for vmware2. Does vmware3 really work with 'vmmon' version2? --- VMware Workstation Error: Could not get vmmon module version: Resource temporarily unavailable. You have an incorrect version of the `vmmon' kernel module. Try reinstalling VMware Workstation. --- 02.09.2002; 19:46:04 [SorAlx] http://cydem.zp.ua/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware 3 on FreeBSD?
You might get it to run under Linux emulation... I've never tried it though. The VMWare documentation for even version 3.1 indicates FreeBSD support as a client OS only. I assume you knew that, but I wanted to save you the trouble of a possible wild-goose-chase id you didn't. Good luck! -Richard On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 02:30:54PM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote: Hi, sent this to -questions a week ago, got no response, so I'm asking again here: is it possible to run VMware 3 on -STABLE? If so, how? I noticed there is no port like there is for VMware 2, so that's why I'm asking. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware 3 on FreeBSD?
On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 11:09:57AM -0400, Richard Stanaford wrote: The VMWare documentation for even version 3.1 indicates FreeBSD support as a client OS only. If you check the small print, that's what it says. Having said that though, I have had 3.0 running as well as 2.0, under -STABLE, using COMPAT_LINUX. BMS To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware 3 on FreeBSD?
Of course we run Vmware 2 under emulation. So vmware 3 MUST be run under emulation. As has been said before, it probably runs but the setup program looks for too many linux specifics and doesn't generate a good config file. It just takes someone to figure out what it needs. On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Richard Stanaford wrote: You might get it to run under Linux emulation... I've never tried it though. The VMWare documentation for even version 3.1 indicates FreeBSD support as a client OS only. I assume you knew that, but I wanted to save you the trouble of a possible wild-goose-chase id you didn't. Good luck! -Richard On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 02:30:54PM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote: Hi, sent this to -questions a week ago, got no response, so I'm asking again here: is it possible to run VMware 3 on -STABLE? If so, how? I noticed there is no port like there is for VMware 2, so that's why I'm asking. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: VMware 3 on FreeBSD?
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 02:30:54PM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote: Hi, sent this to -questions a week ago, got no response, so I'm asking again here: is it possible to run VMware 3 on -STABLE? If so, how? I noticed there is no port like there is for VMware 2, so that's why I'm asking. It's possible, but as far as I know no-one's unravelled the vmware3 install script yet. The vmware3 binary run, but complains that it's not got a valid configuration file. That file I believe is written by the install script which is a shell script that knows about all things linux, but about no things FreeBSD. If you'd like to work on this please get in touch with me off list. Joe -- As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. - Albert Einstein, 1921 msg36510/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature