RE: windows 2000 & FreeBSD?

[Mark-Nathaniel Weisman]

I just finished another XP with 4.7 install, and my two cents for what
their worth. When I did this last install, I simply installed 4.7 on the
first have of a 10GB drive, then loaded XP on the second part. Once
completed, I had to use the rewrite on the mbr using /stand/sysinstall.
Under this operation, I have a copy of disk0 (I think) that contains the
load point for each partition. Each partition then contains a copy, XP
has one, BSD has one. Using the fdisk option under /stand/sysinstall I
was able to rewrite the master boot record. Works like a champ, I'm even
mounting the XP secondary drive to pull files off of it from time to
time! I love this OS!

His Faithful Servant,
Mark

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Alternate boot

[Rafael Sierra]

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Checking Loaded Applications

[Mark-Nathaniel Weisman]

Hey all,
  Is there a command that I'm overlooking that would provide a list of
all "installed" applications on my 4.7 box? I know I can get a smaller
list from each port, and I can locate all the different apps, but I want
to document all the version numbers and such and don't know where to
look. Any Help?

His Faithful Servant,
Mark

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Re: windows 2000 & FreeBSD?

[Jason Hunt]

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

> Yes, of course.  You can even use the Windows 2000 boot menu to boot
> your FreeBSD installation.  I've done it recently, and it works fine :)
>

FYI, I tried booting FreeBSD from the Win2k loader and it wouldn't work.
The machine would just reboot when I tried to load FreeBSD, but Windows
loaded properly.  My HD is 80 gigs, with the first 40 gigs for Win2k and
the other 40 for FreeBSD.  Maybe the Win2k boot loader won't load your OS
if the partition starts before the 1024th cylinder?  Just speculating ..

I ended up just installing the FreeBSD boot loader (booteasy).  I was
really hesitant at first because I was not sure if booteasy would be able
to boot Win2k and I could not find anyone who gave detailed information
about their setup.  After just going ahead and installing booteasy
anyways, I saw that Win2k's loader is not stored in the MBR and instead it
will "co-exist" (it's stored on the Win2k partition) with booteasy.

Basically, install Win2k, install FreeBSD and the boot manager, and then
you're done.

Hope this helps.


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[erickcheung]

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Re: L0phtcrack

[kenzo]

I did thought about reinstalling the OS.  In the past with 2000, I had to do
this and it kept all the files, but this is not my computer and I don't
think that the person would like very much if I erased everything.
I forgot to mention that it was a laptop and the OS was preinstalled.  Yes,
otherwise I would of pulled the hard drive and put it in another machine.
I remember seeing some adapters that you could take a laptop hardrive and
connect it to a reular IDE cable and power supply on a tower.  That was
along time ago and I don't even know where I could find something like that
anymore.  especially if I don't even know what it's called.

Another reason why, I wasn't too excited about reloading, is now a day, the
laptops are partitioned funny.  They come with an extra fat partition, and
if you remove that or mess it up, you can't even use the recovery disk that
comes with them. It happened to one of my friends.  He was made his
partition bigger erasing that one, and he coudn't use the recovery disk
anymore.  they had to send him the all the disks , ( 3 I think. ).

I finaly found where the l0phtcrack program was located in FBSD, but when I
run it, it says that it's an Invalid format.

Now If I use one of those hash recovery programs, it shows the username and
the hases, but I dont' even know what to do with that.

I starting to think that this is a lost cause.


- Original Message -
From: "Derrick Ryalls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 10:36 PM
Subject: RE: L0phtcrack


Unless your friend encrypted his data, he shouldn't need a password
cracker.  By encrypt, I mean the XP built in encrypt per user method
under advanced properties.  In that case, then only the password will
save the data.  If the data is just sitting there on the NTFS drive,
recovery can be "easy":

Method 1: Pull drive out of machine, put in a working xp box as slave.
Extra drive contents should be readable as normal.

Method 2: Reinstall the O/S without formatting.  This repaints the O/S
and gives you a chance to assign admin password.  All user data should
be safe.*

*I claim no responsibility for data, especially if you accidentally
repartition the box.

Good luck.

-Derrick

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kenzo
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 3:34 PM
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: L0phtcrack
>
>
> Sorry guys, I didn't mean to be so rude.  I just took the
> first couple replies the wrong way. Busy day and MX records
> not resolving correclty and stuff. I know that it sound
> suspicious to ask how to crack the windows password, but that
> is what I need to do, and I really don't have $300 bucks to
> pay for the new version of  l0phcrack. Again the reason why I
> need this, is because a friend of mine forgot his windows XP
> admin password. and since it was the only account on there,
> he can't get back in.  He can't affort to reload, because he
> got stuff on it that he need for school projects and stuff.
> I don't really know exactly what he's got in it, but he asked
> me if it was possible to retrieve the password or reset it.
> I told him it was possible and I've been trying for the last
> 2 days to do it. I tried the linux boot disk that suppose to
> reset the admin password, but that didn't work.  I think it
> only works on 2000. then I booted from a win98 boot disk,
> then use dos ntfs to copy the sam file to a floppy and tried
> to use john to crack it. It sais that there's 0 passwords,
> But when I use a hash retriever, it list all the accounts. I
> noticed that there was a version of l0phtcrack on freebsd
> /usr/ports/security/l0phtcrack, and wanted to see if that
> helped, but I can't seem to find where it installs it and how
> I would use it. OK, I hope it was something like what you
> wanted to hear, even though it still sounds suspicious and I
> understand that. I'm an Admin myself.  And for using hotmail
> accountComputer 101, never use your real or company
> e-mail address to post on forums,  just attracks crackers. I
> guess it just depends on the person, I just prefer to use
> different e-mail accounts for work and personal stuff. I
> guest if you guys think that it's wrong to do so, please let
> me know why, cause I really can't think of any reasons.
> Again, sorry guys I didn't mean to offend you.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jimi Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Kenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 7:12 PM
> Subject: RE: L0phtcrack
>
>
> > Not thatasking how to crack Windows passwords from a
> hotmail email
> > box is just highly suspicious.  Acting angry when you get
> questioned
> > about it
> is
> > even more so.  I also point out that I'm not the one needing an
> > answer. There is an answer to your question, we just want more
> > information about
> who
> > you are and  why you want to know.  If you want to c

RE: L0phtcrack

[Derrick Ryalls]

Unless your friend encrypted his data, he shouldn't need a password
cracker.  By encrypt, I mean the XP built in encrypt per user method
under advanced properties.  In that case, then only the password will
save the data.  If the data is just sitting there on the NTFS drive,
recovery can be "easy":

Method 1: Pull drive out of machine, put in a working xp box as slave.
Extra drive contents should be readable as normal.

Method 2: Reinstall the O/S without formatting.  This repaints the O/S
and gives you a chance to assign admin password.  All user data should
be safe.*

*I claim no responsibility for data, especially if you accidentally
repartition the box.

Good luck.

-Derrick

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kenzo
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 3:34 PM
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: L0phtcrack
> 
> 
> Sorry guys, I didn't mean to be so rude.  I just took the 
> first couple replies the wrong way. Busy day and MX records 
> not resolving correclty and stuff. I know that it sound 
> suspicious to ask how to crack the windows password, but that 
> is what I need to do, and I really don't have $300 bucks to 
> pay for the new version of  l0phcrack. Again the reason why I 
> need this, is because a friend of mine forgot his windows XP 
> admin password. and since it was the only account on there, 
> he can't get back in.  He can't affort to reload, because he 
> got stuff on it that he need for school projects and stuff.  
> I don't really know exactly what he's got in it, but he asked 
> me if it was possible to retrieve the password or reset it.  
> I told him it was possible and I've been trying for the last 
> 2 days to do it. I tried the linux boot disk that suppose to 
> reset the admin password, but that didn't work.  I think it 
> only works on 2000. then I booted from a win98 boot disk, 
> then use dos ntfs to copy the sam file to a floppy and tried 
> to use john to crack it. It sais that there's 0 passwords, 
> But when I use a hash retriever, it list all the accounts. I 
> noticed that there was a version of l0phtcrack on freebsd 
> /usr/ports/security/l0phtcrack, and wanted to see if that 
> helped, but I can't seem to find where it installs it and how 
> I would use it. OK, I hope it was something like what you 
> wanted to hear, even though it still sounds suspicious and I 
> understand that. I'm an Admin myself.  And for using hotmail 
> accountComputer 101, never use your real or company 
> e-mail address to post on forums,  just attracks crackers. I 
> guess it just depends on the person, I just prefer to use 
> different e-mail accounts for work and personal stuff. I 
> guest if you guys think that it's wrong to do so, please let 
> me know why, cause I really can't think of any reasons. 
> Again, sorry guys I didn't mean to offend you.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jimi Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Kenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 7:12 PM
> Subject: RE: L0phtcrack
> 
> 
> > Not thatasking how to crack Windows passwords from a 
> hotmail email 
> > box is just highly suspicious.  Acting angry when you get 
> questioned 
> > about it
> is
> > even more so.  I also point out that I'm not the one needing an 
> > answer. There is an answer to your question, we just want more 
> > information about
> who
> > you are and  why you want to know.  If you want to continue 
> in this vein,
> > I'll be happy to accomodate you.   Flame mail doesn't 
> really bother me.
> If
> > you want to offer a decent and reasonable explanation, I'll 
> be happy 
> > to
> help
> > you.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ms. Jimi Thompson
> >
> > Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
> governed
> > by those who are dumber. - Plato
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kenzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:56 PM
> > To: Jimi Thompson
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: L0phtcrack
> >
> >
> > Well sorry for being cheap and not buying my own domain, or maybe I 
> > don't want to use my real E-mail for forums because they can get 
> > pretty big, and
> I
> > don't want the world to know my real E-mail.
> > And I assum myrealbox is a better one? doesn't seem much 
> better to me.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jimi Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 6:39 PM
> > Subject: RE: L0phtcrack
> >
> >
> > > Especially coming from a hotmail email address..
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Ms. Jimi Thompson
> > >
> > > Those who are too smart to engage in politics are 
> punished by being
> > governed
> > > by those who are dumber. - Plato
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of

Re: Gnome login

[Joe Marcus Clarke]

On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, socketd wrote:

>
> On 23 Dec 2002, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
>
> > > So my question is "How do I start gnome without that window popping
> > up?"
> >
> > All you need in ~/.xinitrc to start GNOME is:
> >
> > exec /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session
>
> Like I said, if I delete the "login" line I get:
>
> main# startx
>
> Free86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System
> (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
> Release Date: 3 September 2002
> If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
> newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
> reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE i386 [ELF]
> Module Loader present
> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
>  (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
>  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Tue Dec 24 00:46:57 2002
> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
>
> waiting for X server to shut down Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to :0 broken
> (explicit kill or server shutdown).
>
> xinitrc look like this:
> main# more .xinitrc
> #!/bin/sh
> # $Xorg: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:30 cpqbld Exp $
>
> userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
> usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
> sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources
> sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap
>
> # merge in defaults and keymaps
>
> if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
> xrdb -merge $sysresources
> fi
>
> if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
> xmodmap $sysmodmap
> fi
>
> if [ -f $userresources ]; then
> xrdb -merge $userresources
> fi
>
> if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
> xmodmap $usermodmap
> fi
>
> # start some nice programs
> gaim &
>
> exec gnome-session &
> #xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 &
> #xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 &
> #xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 &
> exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login
>
> Hope this helps :-)

Maybe you should listen to me.

ALL YOU NEED IS THE FOLLOWING LINE...PERIOD!

exec /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session

If you add a '&' to the end, IT WILL NOT WORK!  If you want to add other
stuff to the file, the gnome-session line should be the last line in the
file.

Joe

>
> br
> socketd
>
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Re: List etiquette

[Mike Jeays]

Cliff Sarginson wrote:


On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 08:39:17PM -0500, John Bleichert wrote:
 

On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, Dan Nelson wrote:
   

Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 18:38:37 -0600
Subject: Re: List etiquette

In the last episode (Dec 22), Mike Jeays said:
 

Many times I have asked questions on this list, and had helpful
replies from one or more people.  My usual practice is to reply to
them directly and thank them, and tell them whether their idea
helped.  This avoids cluttering up the list with "thank-you"
messages, but may look as though I haven't bothered to even listen.

Should one post such replies to the list?
   

It's a good idea, so that people reading the thread later have
confirmation that the suggestion actually was the correct solution.

 

Yes, this is important, I think a thread with an affirmative onclusion
should be registered on the list. Someone in the future may not know you
need to wear a penguin suite and sing the Hallelulah Chorus when you
wish to install Port X.

On a second note, if while waiting for an answer, and you discover it
yourself then post the answer, close the ticket so to speak.

 

Agreed - by having a solution confirmation in the archives of this list, 
it makes searching the archives a little easier and more believable. Not 
that I minded the private 'danke' :)

   

Secondly, an occasional question goes unanswered - perhaps because no
one thought it was interesting enough to reply. Is it acceptable to
post it again after a few days?
   

I'd wait a week before reposting, and then try to ask the question a
different way, or provide more info.

 

Yup, unfortunately you will always believe that someone *does* know the
answer to your question, so re-posting a week or so later sometimes
works. If it does not, then you are perhaps asking on the wrong list or
the people who know are all holidaying in the Seychelles on the huge
profits they make from answering questions on FreeBSD :)

 

Ocassionally there will be no response because nobody knows the answer 
*or* it's been answered ad nauseum in the archives. Re-posting with an 
update, however, does keep the archives up to date.

   

Private thank you's are nice.,but I think some people will find it
enough that you have acknowledged the solution proposed works in the
public forum. Of course there is a class of questions for which you will
get a shell and an awk and a perl and a sed and a python and a ruby
answer, often many of all of them. Hee hee ,,, 

 

OK, thanks for the advice from all of you.  I will follow it in future.  
A useful discussion.



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Re: newfs -i and -f options with vinum

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Monday, 23 December 2002 at 21:46:43 -0600, Hari Bhaskaran wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 10:14:16AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> information in the disk label is not binding.  I'd strongly advise
>> against a 2048 byte block size, though; it buys you nothing in
>> comparison with a 4096 byte block size, but it can result in
>> marginally reduced performance.  In general, unless you have a very
>> good reason, stick to the default 16k/2k block and frag sizes.
>
> Isn't block size (-b) different from bytes-per-inode (-i) ?

Yes, my bad.  I misread.  In this case, it's the default, so you don't
need to specify it.

> Or am I confused?. BTW, after doing some google-ing, I settled for
> newfs -v -i 4096 (only for the partition where I saved mails) Others
> use newfs -v with the default settings.

If that reflects the average size of your files, that's fine.

Greg
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Re: Power off problem [from Dec-08-2002]

[James Pole]

On Tue, 2002-12-24 at 15:50, Peter Leftwich wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> > Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 16:02, Christian Chen wrote:
> > >>So not only do you have to make sure you've added device apm0, you also
> > >>have to delete/comment the "disable" part:
> > Doh!
> 
> > > No, you don't:
> > > 2@pyanfar:5001 Z$ cat /boot/kernel.conf
> > > di fd1
> > > en apm0   <---
> > > q
> > Doh!! *slaps forehead*
> > Thanks guys. All the boxen here powering down fine now...
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Michael Nottebrock
> 
> I added "en apm0" to my /boot/kernel.conf and have this in "dmesg:"
> 
> apm0:  on motherboard
> apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2
> 
> But when I run `shutdown -p now` I still have to kill the power to the box.
> Isn't the fix above supposed to quell my having to do so?  Do I still have
> to boot up into the bios and change a setting do you think?  Thanks, and
> please include my email address as a To or CC.  Have fine holidays!
> 

Have you got apmd_enable="YES"in rc.conf?

- James

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Re: newfs -i and -f options with vinum

[Hari Bhaskaran]

On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 10:14:16AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> information in the disk label is not binding.  I'd strongly advise
> against a 2048 byte block size, though; it buys you nothing in
> comparison with a 4096 byte block size, but it can result in
> marginally reduced performance.  In general, unless you have a very
> good reason, stick to the default 16k/2k block and frag sizes.

Isn't block size (-b) different from bytes-per-inode (-i) ?
Or am I confused?. BTW, after doing some google-ing, I settled
for newfs -v -i 4096 (only for the partition where I saved mails)
Others use newfs -v with the default settings.

> 
> Greg
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How to force fresh install of a port, esp. KDE?

[Carolyn Longfoot]

How can I install a port without reference to already installed portions of 
it, so that it blindly installs everything it needs, regardless of what may 
or may not already be there? I think I messed up KDE and ended up installing 
some parts by themselves but it still misses obscure files, like 
kartsdispatcher.h (even though I have arts installed).
KDE is obviously a very fat port with lots of components and I'm hoping a 
forced fresh install will fix my problems. I have no idea how to clean up 
the mess otherwise, since it's impossible to locate all the files and ports 
that the KDE 'make install', plus my manual fiddling,  have already 
installed.

Cheers,
Caro



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possible problems in bootup

[Asenchi]

Hello,

I am having what seem to be problems in the boot process.  When it gets to
the ata0 device it sits for about a minute then continues like normal.  Is
this supposed to happen, am I doing something that I just don't know about
to make this happen?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Curt Micol


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Re: How do you suspend and resume a remote shell session?

[Paul A. Scott]

For an X app? watch won't.

> From: "Mr. Groups"
> The watch command should accomplish this as well. I
> use it all the time to open a terminal session at the
> console from remote. BSDVault has a good page on how
> to set up the snoop device:
> http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=66
> 
 However what I'm really trying to achieve is to
>> keep X apps alive when
 running them remotely, and be able to connect and
>> disconnect at will and
 still have the app up and running, exactly where
>> you left it.

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Re: Power off problem [from Dec-08-2002]

[Peter Leftwich]

On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> Brandon S Allbery KF8NH wrote:
> > On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 16:02, Christian Chen wrote:
> >>So not only do you have to make sure you've added device apm0, you also
> >>have to delete/comment the "disable" part:
> Doh!

> > No, you don't:
> > 2@pyanfar:5001 Z$ cat /boot/kernel.conf
> > di fd1
> > en apm0 <---
> > q
> Doh!! *slaps forehead*
> Thanks guys. All the boxen here powering down fine now...
> --
> Regards,
>   Michael Nottebrock

I added "en apm0" to my /boot/kernel.conf and have this in "dmesg:"

apm0:  on motherboard
apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2

But when I run `shutdown -p now` I still have to kill the power to the box.
Isn't the fix above supposed to quell my having to do so?  Do I still have
to boot up into the bios and change a setting do you think?  Thanks, and
please include my email address as a To or CC.  Have fine holidays!

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Re: Gnome login

[socketd]

On 23 Dec 2002, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

> > So my question is "How do I start gnome without that window popping
> up?"
> 
> All you need in ~/.xinitrc to start GNOME is:
> 
> exec /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session

Like I said, if I delete the "login" line I get:

main# startx

Free86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 3 September 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE i386 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Tue Dec 24 00:46:57 2002
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"

waiting for X server to shut down Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to :0 broken
(explicit kill or server shutdown).

xinitrc look like this:
main# more .xinitrc 
#!/bin/sh
# $Xorg: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:30 cpqbld Exp $

userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources
sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap

# merge in defaults and keymaps

if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
xrdb -merge $sysresources
fi

if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
xmodmap $sysmodmap
fi

if [ -f $userresources ]; then
xrdb -merge $userresources
fi

if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
xmodmap $usermodmap
fi

# start some nice programs
gaim &

exec gnome-session &
#xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 &
#xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 &
#xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 &
exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login  

Hope this helps :-)

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RE: L0phtcrack

[Sean J. Countryman]

Truly your absolute best bet, completely guaranteed to work perfectly, is a
tool called ERD Commander...  Last I checked, it was around $2000 though...
The last company I worked as a tech for had bought it.  It basically is a CD
that allows you to single user boot a Winbox and access the entire registry
hive directly.  You can do basically anything to the box once you boot it
with ERD commander, including change the Admin password

- SJC


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig M.
Luchtefeld
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 6:40 PM
To: 'Kenzo'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: L0phtcrack


For L0phtcrack to work, in my experience, you have to have some kind of
administrator priv's on the box you're doing it on anyway, making this a
rather moot point.  You can use the pwdump utility that they suggest to
remotely hash the SAM, but, again, this requires an administrator
password.

Here's a link to a site that will give you a utility to do it, but it
costs money:  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/product.cfm?id=265

Good luck.

pini0n

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kenzo
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 5:34 PM
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: L0phtcrack


Sorry guys, I didn't mean to be so rude.  I just took the first couple
replies the wrong way. Busy day and MX records not resolving correclty
and stuff. I know that it sound suspicious to ask how to crack the
windows password, but that is what I need to do, and I really don't have
$300 bucks to pay for the new version of  l0phcrack. Again the reason
why I need this, is because a friend of mine forgot his windows XP admin
password. and since it was the only account on there, he can't get back
in.  He can't affort to reload, because he got stuff on it that he need
for school projects and stuff.  I don't really know exactly what he's
got in it, but he asked me if it was possible to retrieve the password
or reset it.  I told him it was possible and I've been trying for the
last 2 days to do it. I tried the linux boot disk that suppose to reset
the admin password, but that didn't work.  I think it only works on
2000. then I booted from a win98 boot disk, then use dos ntfs to copy
the sam file to a floppy and tried to use john to crack it. It sais that
there's 0 passwords, But when I use a hash retriever, it list all the
accounts. I noticed that there was a version of l0phtcrack on freebsd
/usr/ports/security/l0phtcrack, and wanted to see if that helped, but I
can't seem to find where it installs it and how I would use it. OK, I
hope it was something like what you wanted to hear, even though it still
sounds suspicious and I understand that. I'm an Admin myself.  And for
using hotmail accountComputer 101, never use your real or company
e-mail address to post on forums,  just attracks crackers. I guess it
just depends on the person, I just prefer to use different e-mail
accounts for work and personal stuff. I guest if you guys think that
it's wrong to do so, please let me know why, cause I really can't think
of any reasons. Again, sorry guys I didn't mean to offend you.


- Original Message -
From: "Jimi Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 7:12 PM
Subject: RE: L0phtcrack


> Not thatasking how to crack Windows passwords from a hotmail email

> box is just highly suspicious.  Acting angry when you get questioned
> about it
is
> even more so.  I also point out that I'm not the one needing an
> answer. There is an answer to your question, we just want more
> information about
who
> you are and  why you want to know.  If you want to continue in this
vein,
> I'll be happy to accomodate you.   Flame mail doesn't really bother
me.
If
> you want to offer a decent and reasonable explanation, I'll be happy
> to
help
> you.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ms. Jimi Thompson
>
> Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
governed
> by those who are dumber. - Plato
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kenzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:56 PM
> To: Jimi Thompson
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: L0phtcrack
>
>
> Well sorry for being cheap and not buying my own domain, or maybe I
> don't want to use my real E-mail for forums because they can get
> pretty big, and
I
> don't want the world to know my real E-mail.
> And I assum myrealbox is a better one? doesn't seem much better to me.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jimi Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 6:39 PM
> Subject: RE: L0phtcrack
>
>
> > Especially coming from a hotmail email address..
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ms. Jimi Thompson
> >
> > Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
> governed
> > by thos

Re: L0phtcrack

[Nathan Kinkade]

On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 05:34:13PM -0600, Kenzo wrote:
> Sorry guys, I didn't mean to be so rude.  I just took the first couple
> replies the wrong way. Busy day and MX records not resolving correclty and
> stuff.
> I know that it sound suspicious to ask how to crack the windows password,
> but that is what I need to do, and I really don't have $300 bucks to pay for
> the new version of  l0phcrack.
> Again the reason why I need this, is because a friend of mine forgot his
> windows XP admin password. and since it was the only account on there, he
> can't get back in.  He can't affort to reload, because he got stuff on it
> that he need for school projects and stuff.  I don't really know exactly
> what he's got in it, but he asked me if it was possible to retrieve the
> password or reset it.  I told him it was possible and I've been trying for
> the last 2 days to do it.
> I tried the linux boot disk that suppose to reset the admin password, but
> that didn't work.  I think it only works on 2000.
> then I booted from a win98 boot disk, then use dos ntfs to copy the sam file
> to a floppy and tried to use john to crack it.
> It sais that there's 0 passwords, But when I use a hash retriever, it list
> all the accounts.
> I noticed that there was a version of l0phtcrack on freebsd
> /usr/ports/security/l0phtcrack, and wanted to see if that helped, but I
> can't seem to find where it installs it and how I would use it.
> OK, I hope it was something like what you wanted to hear, even though it
> still sounds suspicious and I understand that.
> I'm an Admin myself.  And for using hotmail accountComputer 101, never
> use your real or company e-mail address to post on forums,  just attracks
> crackers.
> I guess it just depends on the person, I just prefer to use different e-mail
> accounts for work and personal stuff.
> I guest if you guys think that it's wrong to do so, please let me know why,
> cause I really can't think of any reasons.
> Again, sorry guys I didn't mean to offend you.

As a last resort, I suppose you could yank the drive out of the XP box,
put it in your FreeBSD box, mount it and copy off any critical files, then
resintall XP.  Does XP actually trash user data on a system reinstall?
I don't recall older versions of Windows doing that.  I would think that
you could safely reinstall the system without user data loss, as long as
the data was not in some odd, and inappropriate, system directory.  I
could be wrong about this though.

Nathan

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RE: L0phtcrack

[Craig M. Luchtefeld]

For L0phtcrack to work, in my experience, you have to have some kind of
administrator priv's on the box you're doing it on anyway, making this a
rather moot point.  You can use the pwdump utility that they suggest to
remotely hash the SAM, but, again, this requires an administrator
password.

Here's a link to a site that will give you a utility to do it, but it
costs money:  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/product.cfm?id=265

Good luck.

pini0n

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kenzo
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 5:34 PM
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: L0phtcrack


Sorry guys, I didn't mean to be so rude.  I just took the first couple
replies the wrong way. Busy day and MX records not resolving correclty
and stuff. I know that it sound suspicious to ask how to crack the
windows password, but that is what I need to do, and I really don't have
$300 bucks to pay for the new version of  l0phcrack. Again the reason
why I need this, is because a friend of mine forgot his windows XP admin
password. and since it was the only account on there, he can't get back
in.  He can't affort to reload, because he got stuff on it that he need
for school projects and stuff.  I don't really know exactly what he's
got in it, but he asked me if it was possible to retrieve the password
or reset it.  I told him it was possible and I've been trying for the
last 2 days to do it. I tried the linux boot disk that suppose to reset
the admin password, but that didn't work.  I think it only works on
2000. then I booted from a win98 boot disk, then use dos ntfs to copy
the sam file to a floppy and tried to use john to crack it. It sais that
there's 0 passwords, But when I use a hash retriever, it list all the
accounts. I noticed that there was a version of l0phtcrack on freebsd
/usr/ports/security/l0phtcrack, and wanted to see if that helped, but I
can't seem to find where it installs it and how I would use it. OK, I
hope it was something like what you wanted to hear, even though it still
sounds suspicious and I understand that. I'm an Admin myself.  And for
using hotmail accountComputer 101, never use your real or company
e-mail address to post on forums,  just attracks crackers. I guess it
just depends on the person, I just prefer to use different e-mail
accounts for work and personal stuff. I guest if you guys think that
it's wrong to do so, please let me know why, cause I really can't think
of any reasons. Again, sorry guys I didn't mean to offend you.


- Original Message -
From: "Jimi Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 7:12 PM
Subject: RE: L0phtcrack


> Not thatasking how to crack Windows passwords from a hotmail email

> box is just highly suspicious.  Acting angry when you get questioned 
> about it
is
> even more so.  I also point out that I'm not the one needing an 
> answer. There is an answer to your question, we just want more 
> information about
who
> you are and  why you want to know.  If you want to continue in this
vein,
> I'll be happy to accomodate you.   Flame mail doesn't really bother
me.
If
> you want to offer a decent and reasonable explanation, I'll be happy 
> to
help
> you.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ms. Jimi Thompson
>
> Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
governed
> by those who are dumber. - Plato
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kenzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:56 PM
> To: Jimi Thompson
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: L0phtcrack
>
>
> Well sorry for being cheap and not buying my own domain, or maybe I 
> don't want to use my real E-mail for forums because they can get 
> pretty big, and
I
> don't want the world to know my real E-mail.
> And I assum myrealbox is a better one? doesn't seem much better to me.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jimi Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 6:39 PM
> Subject: RE: L0phtcrack
>
>
> > Especially coming from a hotmail email address..
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ms. Jimi Thompson
> >
> > Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
> governed
> > by those who are dumber. - Plato
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stacey 
> > Roberts
> > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:30 PM
> > To: Kenzo
> > Cc: FreeBSD Questions
> > Subject: Re: L0phtcrack
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 22:24, Kenzo wrote:
> > > Anyone here use the l0phtcrack version that comes with FBSD 4.7? 
> > > Is it capable of cracking SAM files from XP computers? I installed

> > > it, but I can't seem to find how to use it. I tried John and that 
> > > didn't get me anywhere.
> > >
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make iso.1 bootable image problem

[Happy Clown]

Hi,

I just made a custom release of 4-stable to use for making installing 
FreeBSD workstations easier in our engineering dept. Basically, the proces I 
followed was:

Edited /usr/src/release/sysinstall/Makefile to call a specific config file 
relevant for our dept for sysinstall. Then...

> cd /usr/src
> make buildworld
> cd release
> make release NODOC=YES CHROOTDIR=/usr/release CVSROOT=/home/ncvs 
BUILDNAME=4.PP-RELEASE RELEASETAG=RELENG_4

All functioned fine with no catastrophic errors and /usr/release seemed 
populated with the relevant files.

Then added a packages directory to the /usr/release/R/cdrom/disc1/ directory 
containing the relevant packages for that sysinstall config file.

Then
> chroot /usr/release
> cd /usr/src/release
> make iso.1

This also went through ok.

My problem is... the ISO images created don't appear to be bootable. At 
least they're not recognised as such by the burning software I'm using 
(Nero... OK, I'm burning them on a windows machine :-/ that's where the 
burner is).

Am I missing any options with the make iso.1 command or any other steps to 
make these ISO images bootable? Any helpful suggestions from anyone?

Thanks,
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Re: Mail clients

[Andreas Ntaflos]

On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 05:21:22PM -0500, Ernest H. Rice wrote:
> 
> Si u decided to try and use another mail program.
> k-mail doesnt look for my email in /var/mail/... which is a problem
> 

Have you set your $MAIL environment variable to /var/mail/$USERNAME? Also, I
am sure you can tell kmail where to look for new mail, although I don't know
much about that program since I've never used it myself. The default place is
/var/mail/$USERNAME though.

regards
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Re: GNOME 2.0 Desktop Beta 3 from Sun Microsystems

[Joe Marcus Clarke]

On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 18:58, Joe Gwozdecki wrote:
> Is it possible to get the GNOME 2.0 Desktop Beta 3 from Sun Microsystems going in 
>FreeBSD?
> They are only offering it for Solaris 8 and 9.  If you did get it going, would 
>appreciate
> it if you could tell me how?

Install /usr/ports/x11/gnome2.  It's GNOME 2.0.2, though, and not the
old beta.

Joe

> 
> Joe Gwozdecki
> Houston, Texas
> 
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GNOME 2.0 Desktop Beta 3 from Sun Microsystems

[Joe Gwozdecki]

Is it possible to get the GNOME 2.0 Desktop Beta 3 from Sun Microsystems going in 
FreeBSD?
They are only offering it for Solaris 8 and 9.  If you did get it going, would 
appreciate
it if you could tell me how?

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Re: L0phtcrack

[Pierrick Brossin]

Kenzo wrote:


I tried the linux boot disk that suppose to reset the admin password, but
that didn't work.  I think it only works on 2000.


I assume that if you altered the password file of Windows XP the wrong
way (the way your linux boot disk does it) you crashed 'em !
Since it was created for 2000 and not XP you maybe overrided the admin
password with some data Windows XP won't even reconize now.

Have you thought about this ?

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Low level formating for IDE

[Doug Reynolds]

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 18:43:52 +0200 (EET), Dmitry Ternovoy wrote:

>Hallo! Help me please. How can I do low level format IDE disk on FreeBSD 4.7?

I am sure you can, but you are better off to goto the manufacture's
website, and download their diagnostic utility for that purpose


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Re: email addresses used for lists [was: L0phtcrack]

[Kurt Bigler]

on 12/23/02 3:34 PM, Kenzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And for using hotmail accountComputer 101, never
> use your real or company e-mail address to post on forums,  just attracks
> crackers.
> I guess it just depends on the person, I just prefer to use different e-mail
> accounts for work and personal stuff.
> I guest if you guys think that it's wrong to do so, please let me know why,
> cause I really can't think of any reasons.
> Again, sorry guys I didn't mean to offend you.

I currently create a new email address for every category of mailing list
that I join.

I know others use special accounts for mailing lists which refuse to receive
any mail that doesn't come from one of the lists that they associate with
the account (or else they accomplish the filtering in their email client).

A word of warning:  When I first joined freebsd-questions, I joined with my
"main" preferred only-for-friends spam-safe email address by mistake.  Being
lazy, I waited a few hours to correct that, unjoining, and rejoining with
the desired address.  But ever since then I get matching paired spams on the
two addresses:  the one I used by mistake for a few hours, and the one that
I use at the moment ONLY for freebsd-questions.

Fortunately I get only 1 or 2 spams a day like this, but I'm afraid it will
grow and I will have to give up my main email address, or get deeply into
spam filtering, which so far I have avoided.

Regards,
Kurt Bigler


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Re: newfs -i and -f options with vinum

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Sunday, 22 December 2002 at 18:41:13 -0600, Hari Bhaskaran wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need to create a partition that will be used to
> store large number of small files (qmail Maildir)
> I normally (without vinum in the picture) do this via
>
> newfs -i 2048 -f 512 /dev/...
>
> So when using newfs to create an fs via vinum, I am assuming
> I have to specify -i and -f options in addition to -v.
> However, I noticed that these options where also specified
> under disklabel for the entire vinum drive
> (I saw fsize and bsize - which I assume
> will be fragment size and block size).
>
> So my questions is:-
>
>Is it possible to specify these settings only for one
>volume (where I store my mail files)? Does it mean I
>can ignore the settings that I saw in disklabel (-e)?

These settings don't apply to volumes, they apply to file systems.
Yes, you can set them individually for each file system.  The
information in the disk label is not binding.  I'd strongly advise
against a 2048 byte block size, though; it buys you nothing in
comparison with a 4096 byte block size, but it can result in
marginally reduced performance.  In general, unless you have a very
good reason, stick to the default 16k/2k block and frag sizes.

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Re: L0phtcrack

[Kenzo]

Sorry guys, I didn't mean to be so rude.  I just took the first couple
replies the wrong way. Busy day and MX records not resolving correclty and
stuff.
I know that it sound suspicious to ask how to crack the windows password,
but that is what I need to do, and I really don't have $300 bucks to pay for
the new version of  l0phcrack.
Again the reason why I need this, is because a friend of mine forgot his
windows XP admin password. and since it was the only account on there, he
can't get back in.  He can't affort to reload, because he got stuff on it
that he need for school projects and stuff.  I don't really know exactly
what he's got in it, but he asked me if it was possible to retrieve the
password or reset it.  I told him it was possible and I've been trying for
the last 2 days to do it.
I tried the linux boot disk that suppose to reset the admin password, but
that didn't work.  I think it only works on 2000.
then I booted from a win98 boot disk, then use dos ntfs to copy the sam file
to a floppy and tried to use john to crack it.
It sais that there's 0 passwords, But when I use a hash retriever, it list
all the accounts.
I noticed that there was a version of l0phtcrack on freebsd
/usr/ports/security/l0phtcrack, and wanted to see if that helped, but I
can't seem to find where it installs it and how I would use it.
OK, I hope it was something like what you wanted to hear, even though it
still sounds suspicious and I understand that.
I'm an Admin myself.  And for using hotmail accountComputer 101, never
use your real or company e-mail address to post on forums,  just attracks
crackers.
I guess it just depends on the person, I just prefer to use different e-mail
accounts for work and personal stuff.
I guest if you guys think that it's wrong to do so, please let me know why,
cause I really can't think of any reasons.
Again, sorry guys I didn't mean to offend you.


- Original Message -
From: "Jimi Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 7:12 PM
Subject: RE: L0phtcrack


> Not thatasking how to crack Windows passwords from a hotmail email box
> is just highly suspicious.  Acting angry when you get questioned about it
is
> even more so.  I also point out that I'm not the one needing an answer.
> There is an answer to your question, we just want more information about
who
> you are and  why you want to know.  If you want to continue in this vein,
> I'll be happy to accomodate you.   Flame mail doesn't really bother me.
If
> you want to offer a decent and reasonable explanation, I'll be happy to
help
> you.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ms. Jimi Thompson
>
> Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
governed
> by those who are dumber. - Plato
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kenzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:56 PM
> To: Jimi Thompson
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: L0phtcrack
>
>
> Well sorry for being cheap and not buying my own domain, or maybe I don't
> want to use my real E-mail for forums because they can get pretty big, and
I
> don't want the world to know my real E-mail.
> And I assum myrealbox is a better one? doesn't seem much better to me.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jimi Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 6:39 PM
> Subject: RE: L0phtcrack
>
>
> > Especially coming from a hotmail email address..
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ms. Jimi Thompson
> >
> > Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
> governed
> > by those who are dumber. - Plato
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stacey Roberts
> > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:30 PM
> > To: Kenzo
> > Cc: FreeBSD Questions
> > Subject: Re: L0phtcrack
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 22:24, Kenzo wrote:
> > > Anyone here use the l0phtcrack version that comes with FBSD 4.7?
> > > Is it capable of cracking SAM files from XP computers?
> > > I installed it, but I can't seem to find how to use it.
> > > I tried John and that didn't get me anywhere.
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
> >
> > I could swear I saw a thread with this subject on FreeBSD forums
> > recently..,
> >
> > I could well imagine that if this is indeed the same source, that more
> > than a few people would have looked at the content and thought twice
> > about responding:-)
> >
> > Why would you want to do this? Personally, I figure its prudent to ask.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Stacey
> > --
> > Stacey Roberts
> > B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science
> >
> > Web: www.vickiandstacey.com
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Mail clients

[Stacey Roberts]

On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 22:21, Ernest H. Rice wrote:
> First I apologize for not being able to solve this myself
> I am running FreeBSD 4.6.2 with LINUX compatabilities.
> 
> I have email being picked up off the 'net' via fetchmail, and that works fine.
> 
> I have used Netscape (linux 4.79 communicator) but it has some problems with
> email - in particular printing to my laserjet. I can print regular web pages 
> (like cnn etc, but email often just produces the headers and no text.)
> 
> Si u decided to try and use another mail program.
> k-mail doesnt look for my email in /var/mail/... which is a problem
> 
> I want a graphical interface - like netscapes mail agent - on FreeBSD 
> that will use my regular mailfiles as input
> 

I use Mozilla mail at work (on RH £inux workstation) and that pretty
much works okay. Prints e-mail okay for me on £inux, and I can't see why
it won't do just as well under FreeBSD.

On FreeBSD, I use Evolution, but this is with the the Gnome-1.4 desktop
exclusively. If you've ever seen MS Outlook, evolution's pretty much the
closest mail client I've ever seen to it - and its free.

I'm not sure of how stable Evolution would be under KDE, but I imagine
there should be some docs for it at the Ximian site
(http://www.ximian.com).

Hope this helps.

Stacey

> Suggestions?
> 
> Thanks! and Happy Holidays
> 
> 
> Ernie Rice
> 
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Disk Problems

[Jimi Thompson]

Dmitry,

If you have the smart start CD that came with the server, it will have those
utiliies on it.  If you do not, I suggest that you visit Compaq/HP's web
site, download the CD, burn it and use that.  It contains a utility to
create a "system partition" on one of the drives.  I HIGHLY recommend doing
this on ANY Compaq server that you have.  It gives you access to all sorts
of diagnostic and repair tools that are designed to talk to things like your
BIOS, the firmware on your System Board, RAID controller, RIBLOE, and even
your hard drives.

Thanks,

Ms. Jimi Thompson

Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed
by those who are dumber. - Plato

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dmitry Ternovoy
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:


it is IDE. As it all the same to make? (Disk low level format or other
format)

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Mail clients

[Ernest H. Rice]

First I apologize for not being able to solve this myself
I am running FreeBSD 4.6.2 with LINUX compatabilities.

I have email being picked up off the 'net' via fetchmail, and that works fine.

I have used Netscape (linux 4.79 communicator) but it has some problems with
email - in particular printing to my laserjet. I can print regular web pages 
(like cnn etc, but email often just produces the headers and no text.)

Si u decided to try and use another mail program.
k-mail doesnt look for my email in /var/mail/... which is a problem

I want a graphical interface - like netscapes mail agent - on FreeBSD 
that will use my regular mailfiles as input

Suggestions?

Thanks! and Happy Holidays


Ernie Rice

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RE: L0phtcrack

[Jimi Thompson]

Not thatasking how to crack Windows passwords from a hotmail email box
is just highly suspicious.  Acting angry when you get questioned about it is
even more so.  I also point out that I'm not the one needing an answer.
There is an answer to your question, we just want more information about who
you are and  why you want to know.  If you want to continue in this vein,
I'll be happy to accomodate you.   Flame mail doesn't really bother me.  If
you want to offer a decent and reasonable explanation, I'll be happy to help
you.

Thanks,

Ms. Jimi Thompson

Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed
by those who are dumber. - Plato

-Original Message-
From: Kenzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:56 PM
To: Jimi Thompson
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: L0phtcrack


Well sorry for being cheap and not buying my own domain, or maybe I don't
want to use my real E-mail for forums because they can get pretty big, and I
don't want the world to know my real E-mail.
And I assum myrealbox is a better one? doesn't seem much better to me.


- Original Message -
From: "Jimi Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 6:39 PM
Subject: RE: L0phtcrack


> Especially coming from a hotmail email address..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ms. Jimi Thompson
>
> Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
governed
> by those who are dumber. - Plato
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stacey Roberts
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:30 PM
> To: Kenzo
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: Re: L0phtcrack
>
>
> On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 22:24, Kenzo wrote:
> > Anyone here use the l0phtcrack version that comes with FBSD 4.7?
> > Is it capable of cracking SAM files from XP computers?
> > I installed it, but I can't seem to find how to use it.
> > I tried John and that didn't get me anywhere.
> >
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
>
> I could swear I saw a thread with this subject on FreeBSD forums
> recently..,
>
> I could well imagine that if this is indeed the same source, that more
> than a few people would have looked at the content and thought twice
> about responding:-)
>
> Why would you want to do this? Personally, I figure its prudent to ask.
>
> Regards,
>
> Stacey
> --
> Stacey Roberts
> B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science
>
> Web: www.vickiandstacey.com
>
>
>
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Re: L0phtcrack

[Stacey Roberts]

On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 22:57, Stephen Hovey wrote:
> Ive used such utilities in the past..
> 

Same here. Various border-penetration tools and passwd crackers that run
fortnightly, are used by my team at work. I don't disagree with their
existence, nor stated terms of usage. 

The poster has already answered the followup question in my original
reply.., which was very good of him.

Regards,

Stacey


> Basically, the only way a legit admin can secure things, is if they have
> access to the same tech the bad guys use.. otherwise they can never be
> really certain they have things shored up.
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, paul beard wrote:
> 
> > Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Why would you want to do this? Personally, I figure its prudent to ask.
> > > 
> > It does have some legitimate uses, according to this page ( 
> > http://www.atstake.com/research/lc/ ):
> > 
> > > Consider that at one of the largest technology companies, where
> > > policy required that passwords exceed 8 characters, mix cases,
> > > and include numbers or symbols...
> > > 
> > > * L0phtCrack obtained 18% of the passwords in 10 minutes 
> > > * 90% of the passwords were recovered within 48 hours on a Pentium
> > > II/300 
> > > * The Administrator and most Domain Admin passwords were
> > > cracked
> > > 
> > > It doesn't have to be this way. Crack-resistant passwords are
> > > achievable and practical. But password auditing is the only
> > > sure way to identify user accounts with weak passwords. LC4
> > > offers an easy and adaptable way to address this threat and
> > > find vulnerable passwords.
> > 
> > > Take it from a 1998 Microsoft security bulletin:
> > > 
> > > "consider evaluating a tool such as L0phtcrack 2.0 for
> > > assisting in checking the quality of user passwords."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Paul Beard: seeking UNIX/internet engineering work
> > 
> > 8040 27th Ave NE Seattle WA 98115 / 206 529 8400
> > 
> > "Laughter is the closest distance between two people."
> > -- Victor Borge
> > 
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Re: L0phtcrack

[Stacey Roberts]

On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 22:50, Kenzo wrote:
> Want to do what?
> Put the same or similar questions on two different forums?
> If this forum and freebsd forum are the same forums, then I'm sorry, but if
> they're not, I don't see why it's wrong to ask the same question at two
> different places.
> 
> Or are you asking why I would want to crack a SAM file.  If you read the
> other forum, you would remember that it's for a friend who can't afford to
> lose any info on the laptop.  Like I said, I tried different things and
> couldn't get them to retrieve the password. I wish It was that easy to just
> reload, but it's not.
> 
> 

Dude,
Don't sweat it. I mean you no harm, whatsoever - honest!

The point of my original reply was intended only to nudge you into doing
what you've done with this post - provide some background, that's all.

I also see nothing wrong with posting to different forums to catch the
broadest range of views, and my reply carefully avoided any suggestions
otherwise.

I do hope you get an answer, just like everyone else that posts here.

Regards,

Stacey

> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stacey Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Kenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: L0phtcrack
> 
> 
> > On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 22:24, Kenzo wrote:
> > > Anyone here use the l0phtcrack version that comes with FBSD 4.7?
> > > Is it capable of cracking SAM files from XP computers?
> > > I installed it, but I can't seem to find how to use it.
> > > I tried John and that didn't get me anywhere.
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
> >
> > I could swear I saw a thread with this subject on FreeBSD forums
> > recently..,
> >
> > I could well imagine that if this is indeed the same source, that more
> > than a few people would have looked at the content and thought twice
> > about responding:-)
> >
> > Why would you want to do this? Personally, I figure its prudent to ask.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Stacey
> > --
> > Stacey Roberts
> > B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science
> >
> > Web: www.vickiandstacey.com
> >
> 
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Re: L0phtcrack

[Stephen Hovey]

Ive used such utilities in the past..

Basically, the only way a legit admin can secure things, is if they have
access to the same tech the bad guys use.. otherwise they can never be
really certain they have things shored up.

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, paul beard wrote:

> Stacey Roberts wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Why would you want to do this? Personally, I figure its prudent to ask.
> > 
> It does have some legitimate uses, according to this page ( 
> http://www.atstake.com/research/lc/ ):
> 
> > Consider that at one of the largest technology companies, where
> > policy required that passwords exceed 8 characters, mix cases,
> > and include numbers or symbols...
> > 
> > * L0phtCrack obtained 18% of the passwords in 10 minutes 
> > * 90% of the passwords were recovered within 48 hours on a Pentium
> > II/300 
> > * The Administrator and most Domain Admin passwords were
> > cracked
> > 
> > It doesn't have to be this way. Crack-resistant passwords are
> > achievable and practical. But password auditing is the only
> > sure way to identify user accounts with weak passwords. LC4
> > offers an easy and adaptable way to address this threat and
> > find vulnerable passwords.
> 
> > Take it from a 1998 Microsoft security bulletin:
> > 
> > "consider evaluating a tool such as L0phtcrack 2.0 for
> > assisting in checking the quality of user passwords."
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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cdrecord problems: too many coasters

[paul beard]

I have been trying to make some audio CDs from wav files and keep 
running into difficulties that aren't apparent until its too late.

Symptomatically, here's what happens. I burn the CD with cdrecord, 
specifying that the files are audio files (I have played them with 
wavplay and they're fine). I get one track to record, but all 
subsequent tracks won't play in a CD player or computer. I just 
noise (sounds like the digital equivalent of a record skipping).

here's the command I have used:

sudo /usr/local/bin/cdrecord -pad -audio -vv speed=0 -eject 
dev=0,1,0 *wav

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Re: L0phtcrack

[Kenzo]

Well sorry for being cheap and not buying my own domain, or maybe I don't
want to use my real E-mail for forums because they can get pretty big, and I
don't want the world to know my real E-mail.
And I assum myrealbox is a better one? doesn't seem much better to me.


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From: "Jimi Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 6:39 PM
Subject: RE: L0phtcrack


> Especially coming from a hotmail email address..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ms. Jimi Thompson
>
> Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
governed
> by those who are dumber. - Plato
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stacey Roberts
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:30 PM
> To: Kenzo
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: Re: L0phtcrack
>
>
> On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 22:24, Kenzo wrote:
> > Anyone here use the l0phtcrack version that comes with FBSD 4.7?
> > Is it capable of cracking SAM files from XP computers?
> > I installed it, but I can't seem to find how to use it.
> > I tried John and that didn't get me anywhere.
> >
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
>
> I could swear I saw a thread with this subject on FreeBSD forums
> recently..,
>
> I could well imagine that if this is indeed the same source, that more
> than a few people would have looked at the content and thought twice
> about responding:-)
>
> Why would you want to do this? Personally, I figure its prudent to ask.
>
> Regards,
>
> Stacey
> --
> Stacey Roberts
> B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science
>
> Web: www.vickiandstacey.com
>
>
>
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Re: L0phtcrack

[Kenzo]

Want to do what?
Put the same or similar questions on two different forums?
If this forum and freebsd forum are the same forums, then I'm sorry, but if
they're not, I don't see why it's wrong to ask the same question at two
different places.

Or are you asking why I would want to crack a SAM file.  If you read the
other forum, you would remember that it's for a friend who can't afford to
lose any info on the laptop.  Like I said, I tried different things and
couldn't get them to retrieve the password. I wish It was that easy to just
reload, but it's not.




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From: "Stacey Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kenzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: L0phtcrack


> On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 22:24, Kenzo wrote:
> > Anyone here use the l0phtcrack version that comes with FBSD 4.7?
> > Is it capable of cracking SAM files from XP computers?
> > I installed it, but I can't seem to find how to use it.
> > I tried John and that didn't get me anywhere.
> >
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
>
> I could swear I saw a thread with this subject on FreeBSD forums
> recently..,
>
> I could well imagine that if this is indeed the same source, that more
> than a few people would have looked at the content and thought twice
> about responding:-)
>
> Why would you want to do this? Personally, I figure its prudent to ask.
>
> Regards,
>
> Stacey
> --
> Stacey Roberts
> B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science
>
> Web: www.vickiandstacey.com
>

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Re: Default XFree86 version in FBSD 4.7 Rel

[Stacey Roberts]

On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 22:40, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Stacey Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hi,
> >   Forgive me if this is blindingly obvious somewhere in the handbook,
> > but I can't find it just about now.
> > 
> > Which version of XFree86 is installed by default at system installation
> > time? Its been some time since I installed from scratch, and as I always
> > get the CD Sets, I have 4.7 Release to hand.
> > 
> > The machines I have were all initially installed (from CD) with 4.3 Rel
> > & 4.5 Rel, and upgraded from then onwards. I recall that XFree86-3x.x
> > was the default version included for those releases, but I'm wondering
> > if this has since changed to XFree86-4.x.
> > 
> > Thanks for the time.
> 
> The first paragraph of the handbook section titled "Installing
> XFree86" includes the statement: "XFree86 4.X is now the default
> version of the X Window System on FreeBSD."
> 
> I don't recall the precise FreeBSD release where this became the case.

Hi Lowell,
   Thanks for the reply. Got that!

Cheers.

Stacey

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Re: L0phtcrack

[paul beard]

Stacey Roberts wrote:



Why would you want to do this? Personally, I figure its prudent to ask.


It does have some legitimate uses, according to this page ( 
http://www.atstake.com/research/lc/ ):

Consider that at one of the largest technology companies, where
policy required that passwords exceed 8 characters, mix cases,
and include numbers or symbols...

* L0phtCrack obtained 18% of the passwords in 10 minutes 
* 90% of the passwords were recovered within 48 hours on a Pentium
II/300 
* The Administrator and most Domain Admin passwords were
cracked

It doesn't have to be this way. Crack-resistant passwords are
achievable and practical. But password auditing is the only
sure way to identify user accounts with weak passwords. LC4
offers an easy and adaptable way to address this threat and
find vulnerable passwords.


Take it from a 1998 Microsoft security bulletin:

"consider evaluating a tool such as L0phtcrack 2.0 for
assisting in checking the quality of user passwords."




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Re: Default XFree86 version in FBSD 4.7 Rel

[Lowell Gilbert]

Stacey Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>   Forgive me if this is blindingly obvious somewhere in the handbook,
> but I can't find it just about now.
> 
> Which version of XFree86 is installed by default at system installation
> time? Its been some time since I installed from scratch, and as I always
> get the CD Sets, I have 4.7 Release to hand.
> 
> The machines I have were all initially installed (from CD) with 4.3 Rel
> & 4.5 Rel, and upgraded from then onwards. I recall that XFree86-3x.x
> was the default version included for those releases, but I'm wondering
> if this has since changed to XFree86-4.x.
> 
> Thanks for the time.

The first paragraph of the handbook section titled "Installing
XFree86" includes the statement: "XFree86 4.X is now the default
version of the X Window System on FreeBSD."

I don't recall the precise FreeBSD release where this became the case.

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RE: L0phtcrack

[Jimi Thompson]

Especially coming from a hotmail email address..

Thanks,

Ms. Jimi Thompson

Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed
by those who are dumber. - Plato

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Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:30 PM
To: Kenzo
Cc: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: Re: L0phtcrack


On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 22:24, Kenzo wrote:
> Anyone here use the l0phtcrack version that comes with FBSD 4.7?
> Is it capable of cracking SAM files from XP computers?
> I installed it, but I can't seem to find how to use it.
> I tried John and that didn't get me anywhere.
>
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I could swear I saw a thread with this subject on FreeBSD forums
recently..,

I could well imagine that if this is indeed the same source, that more
than a few people would have looked at the content and thought twice
about responding:-)

Why would you want to do this? Personally, I figure its prudent to ask.

Regards,

Stacey
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Re: L0phtcrack

[Stacey Roberts]

On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 22:24, Kenzo wrote:
> Anyone here use the l0phtcrack version that comes with FBSD 4.7?
> Is it capable of cracking SAM files from XP computers?
> I installed it, but I can't seem to find how to use it.
> I tried John and that didn't get me anywhere.
> 
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I could swear I saw a thread with this subject on FreeBSD forums
recently..,

I could well imagine that if this is indeed the same source, that more
than a few people would have looked at the content and thought twice
about responding:-)

Why would you want to do this? Personally, I figure its prudent to ask.

Regards,

Stacey
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B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science

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Default XFree86 version in FBSD 4.7 Rel

[Stacey Roberts]

Hi,
  Forgive me if this is blindingly obvious somewhere in the handbook,
but I can't find it just about now.

Which version of XFree86 is installed by default at system installation
time? Its been some time since I installed from scratch, and as I always
get the CD Sets, I have 4.7 Release to hand.

The machines I have were all initially installed (from CD) with 4.3 Rel
& 4.5 Rel, and upgraded from then onwards. I recall that XFree86-3x.x
was the default version included for those releases, but I'm wondering
if this has since changed to XFree86-4.x.

Thanks for the time.

Regards,

Stacey
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L0phtcrack

[Kenzo]

Anyone here use the l0phtcrack version that comes with FBSD 4.7?
Is it capable of cracking SAM files from XP computers?
I installed it, but I can't seem to find how to use it.
I tried John and that didn't get me anywhere.

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Compaq ML310 integrated ATA100 RAID controller supported?

[James Long]

One of the smaller offices where I work is looking to replace a decrepit
P90 desktop running FreeBSD with newer server hardware.  They got a quote
from a vendor who wants to sell them a Compaq Proliant ML310 with two
40G ATA100 drives on a controller which does RAID 1 in hardware.

I looked at the supported hardware list on freebsd.org to see whether
the integrated ATA RAID controller in a Compaq ML310 is supported by
FreeBSD.  I see no mention of it, but I am not giving up yet.

I have not found any information on Compaq's web site as to what 
chipset or manufacturer Compaq uses to implement this ATA RAID control-
ler.  Any leads as to the technical info of the controller chipset, and 
the degree of compatibility with any existing (or forthcoming) FreeBSD 
drivers would be appreciated.

What I have found is the name of the driver, "MegaIDE," and some various
links to RedHat-ish tech support articles, such as:

http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/15976.html

If anyone is anyone running an ML310 with the integrated ATA RAID, I'd 
be grateful to know what device it uses, and any installation considera-
tions arise from use of the integrated ATA RAID.

Thanks in advance,

Jim


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mpd VPN Routing

[Chris BeHanna]

Has anyone managed to connect two LANs via an mpd tunnel and get
packets to flow from one LAN to another?  Something like this:


  Home LAN---Home Firewallmpd tunnelOffice Peer---Office LAN

I can reach any host on the office LAN from the home firewall over
the mpd tunnel, but hosts behind the home firewall cannot do more than
ping the local end of the mpd tunnel.

I have tried a few things, including:

routing table entries for the office LAN on Home LAN hosts,
pointing to the remote end of the mpd tunnel, with a routing
table entry to reach the remote end of the tunnel via the
local end of the tunnel

ipfw add pass all from any to any via ng1

(ng1 is the mpd tunnel interface)

Is this even possible?

Thanks,
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Re: How do you suspend and resume a remote shell session?

[Mr. Groups]

The watch command should accomplish this as well. I
use it all the time to open a terminal session at the
console from remote. BSDVault has a good page on how
to set up the snoop device: 
http://bsdvault.net/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=66

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> 
> > From: Matthew Seaman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 10:03:30PM +1100, Andrew
> Cutler wrote:
> > 
> >> However what I'm really trying to achieve is to
> keep X apps alive when
> >> running them remotely, and be able to connect and
> disconnect at will and
> >> still have the app up and running, exactly where
> you left it.
> 
> Oh, NOW you tell us. :)
> 
> > 
> > vnc can do that.  You run vnc in server mode on
> your FreeBSD machine
> > and the vnc client gives you an X desktop in a
> window that you can
> > connect to or disconnect from at will.
> 
> Good call.
> 
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Re: mount problems.

[David Nicholas Kayal]

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, John Bleichert wrote:

> Did you build this drive in another box and then swap it over to the box
> it's in now? Sounds like the bootloader doesn't know where your drive is
> (which is common if you swap in a root drive). Assuming you're using
> the standard FreeBSD bootloader, have you tried re-initializing the MBR
> with fdisk? Can't remember the switch, see the fdisk man page.

I built this drive in the same machine that it is in now.  I have tried
re-initializing the MBR using fdisk, as per your suggestion, using the -B
argument.  The system still does not boot up correctly.

In addition, I am using the standard FreeBSD bootloader.

Here is some more info in hopes of trying to resolve this:
> sudo fdisk -b bootcode
Password:
*** Working on device /dev/ad0 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=525 heads=64 sectors/track=63 (4032 blks/cyl)

parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=525 heads=64 sectors/track=63 (4032 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 63, size 2116737 (1033 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
end: cyl 524/ head 63/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:

The data for partition 3 is:

The data for partition 4 is:

>


>
> Just a thought - this has happened to me when moving hard drives around.
>
> JB
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Re: problem

[Aleksey I. Yurlov]

Hi, there...
Didn't really sure can this helps...

I had the problem like this with specific Compaq SCSI adapter. (sorry, 
didn't remember now it's numbers...etc)
I reach out this problem by the way below:
1. Install fbsd on another pc (in my situation I have it on my desktop)
2. Build custom kernel with those SCSI adapters drivers
3. Put custom kernel into boot floppy.

After that I start installation of fbsd as always and that's all...
Custom directives for kernel of my SCSI adapter I found in the 
"/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT".

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Andrew Knapp wrote:
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:14:12 -0800
Steve Sizemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 02:27:55PM -0500, Hanauer wrote:


I have and Dell PowerEdge 2600 and need to install FreeBSD
Problem: This machine have SCSI PERC4/Di and the FreeBSD
not
support this hardware.

Can everyone help me?

Tks


Have you actually tried this, and found that it doesn't work?

Despite the fact that it's not mentioned in the docs, it does
appear in the amr device driver. I've ordered such a server,
under the assumption that it would work - haven't yet had
a chance to test it.

Steve



We just got a PowerEdge 2650 here at work, and it is working like a charm. Everything was recognized off the boot disks and I was able to install FBSD fine.  I'm almost certain it contained a PERC4/Di.

-Andy

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simple xdm setup

[Shvetima Gulati]

Hi all,
  I want to set up my X configuration as follows:

1) I want all clients (people) to log in to machine 'Server'using the GUI
login.This brings them to their desktop. Typically these people are on
windows machines running X servers such as eXceed or X-Win32. Some might
be tunneling through ssh (port forwarding)so they would need to connect to
local displays?
2) There is no physical keyboard or mouse attached to 'Server'
3) for administration purposes the command line is adequate, so there is
no need for a GUI console.

Essentially I want the PCs to function like dumb terminals running X
displays. This is a fairly common scenario right ? How do I set up xdm for
this?

I searched the web but clear info was very sparse for FreeBSD (I am on
4.6.2).

All pointers/help appreciated.
Thanks,
Shv.




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Re: printing over the network

[Garance A Drosihn]

At 8:02 PM +0200 12/21/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 > Are you using lpd or lprng (have to get that out of the way)

lpd


 Is lpd running / listening? - Show me


iulian#ps -ax | grep lpd
4544  ??  Is 0:00.01 lpd


 What does "lpc status all" return?


Nothing


What version of freebsd are you running?

if 'lpc status all' returns nothing, then that indicates that
lpd/lpc believes you have no printers defined.

What do you get from:
   chkprintcap
?  When lpd starts up, are there any messages written to
/var/log/messages?

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adaptec 2400A revisited.

[Matthew Bettinger]

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Hello,

Reinstalled FreeBSD on an ASUS K7V 133 with 6 60 gig drives and an adaptec 
2400A raid card.  This has got to bethe pickiest bios I have ever come 
across.  Anyway I have the card doing raid 5 and the device is showing up and 
it's appearing as 175+ gigs under it's own mount point. 

Everything appeared to be ok until I put it under some very heavy loads.
The machine has 768 megs of ram 1024 megs of swap and GENERIC kernel.

BSD is on it's own disk and I proceeded to build world  while cp'ing  some 
very large directories to the raided disks.  On top of that I threw in a few 
large untar and gunzips on the raided drives . 

After a while the machine locked up.  

Where should I look to try to hunt down the problem of the machine locking up 
nder heavy loads?  Are there any log files created that would lead me to 
believe it ran out of memory?  Right now I can't do much with the machine 
until I know exactly why it locked up.  

Thank you in advance.

Matthew Bettinger
Champion Elevators, Inc.
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Re: Error: Command returned status 36

[Alex]

Dear/Beste daniel,

Sunday, December 22, 2002, 12:35:59 AM, you wrote:

> I am trying to set up FreeBSD 4.7 on a very old COMPAQ 486 machine 
> with a 120MB harddrive via an FTP install.

> Each time I get through the setup and it tries to creat the root 
> filesystem I get the following message:

> Unable to make new root filesystem on dev/ad0s1a!
> Command returned status 36

> Can you give me any ideas what I can do to fix this, or is it just 
> my harddrive is too small?

Your harddisk is very small. This could prove to fail the installation
due to lack of space. It should however not make it impossible to make
a new root system. (You did change the defaults did you?) You could
try and find out what type of hardware you have (harddisk and what IO
card) check those against the hardware notes. (can be found at
www.freebsd.org)

I consider the following to be the absolute lowest possible for
FreeBSD 4.x:
/   64M
/usr300M - 350M
/var24M

My file system
Unix1# df
Filesystem  1K-blocks Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a12899062206   5646652%/
/dev/ad0s1e   2299550  1207988  90759857%/usr
/dev/ad1s1e25799877178  16018233%/var
/dev/ad1s1f25799822694  21466610%/tmp
/dev/ad1s1g   3096462  1678610 117013659%/disk1
/dev/ad1s1h  25901740 21707792 212181091%/disk2


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Jenoptik JD2100f camera and FreeBSD?

[David Gerard]

This camera looks tempting. The software it comes with is for Windows and
MacOS 9, of course. It's not listed by name on the gphoto2 list, though
other Jenoptik cameras are. And it apparently works with Linux as a USB
drive:

http://www.steinionline.de/lol/JD2100f_en.htm

- which suggests that working with FreeBSD should be at least *feasible*.

So. Has anyone used this camera with FreeBSD? Or, at least, related
Jenoptik cameras? I have FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE here.

The camera itself is here:

http://www.tesco.com/electrical/product.asp?7285715

99 pounds for a 2.1 megapixel camera with CompactFlash. Not too bad at all.


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Re: problem

[Andrew Knapp]

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:14:12 -0800
Steve Sizemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 02:27:55PM -0500, Hanauer wrote:
> > I have and Dell PowerEdge 2600 and need to install FreeBSD
> > Problem: This machine have SCSI PERC4/Di and the FreeBSD
> >  not
> > support this hardware.
> > 
> > Can everyone help me?
> > 
> > Tks
> 
> Have you actually tried this, and found that it doesn't work?
> 
> Despite the fact that it's not mentioned in the docs, it does
> appear in the amr device driver. I've ordered such a server,
> under the assumption that it would work - haven't yet had
> a chance to test it.
> 
> Steve

We just got a PowerEdge 2650 here at work, and it is working like a charm. Everything 
was recognized off the boot disks and I was able to install FBSD fine.  I'm almost 
certain it contained a PERC4/Di.

-Andy

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Re: Linneighbourhood [was: About Evolution]

[Shantanu Mahajan]

+++ Mark-Nathaniel Weisman [freebsd] [21/12/02 20:33 -0900]:
| Hey all,
|   Does anyone know if there is a ported copy of Evolution for FreeBSD? =
| Or LinNeighborHood? I need both of those apps to work, and I get tons of =
| errors with both of these apps when I try to install them under FreeBSD =
| v4.5 with KDE. Any help?
| 
|   His Servant,=20
|   Mark Weisman
| 
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In konqueror try
smb://machine/shared_directory

(plz. check the exact syntax.)

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squidGuard problem: %n and %i empty

[David S. Jackson]

Hi,

The manual of the squidGuard forwarder/redirector says:

 squidGuard can do runtime string substitutions in the redirectors.
 Therefor the character "%" has special meaning in the redirector
 URLs:

 ...snip...

 %a is replaced with IP address of the client.
 %n is replaced with the domainname of the client or "unknown" if 
   not available.
 %i is replaced with the user ID (RFC931) or "unknown" if not 
   available.

 ...snip...

However, when I call a cgi with this redirector command in
squidguard.conf:

 ...snip...
http://192.168.0.10/cgi-bin/squidGuard.cgi?clientaddr=%a&clientname=%n&clientuser=%i&clientgroup=%s&targetgroup=%t&url=%u
 ...snip...

what actually gets to the cgi on the above IP number is:

 ...snip...

192.168.0.110 - - [23/Dec/2002:10:33:42 -0500] "GET
/cgi-bin/squidGuard.cgi?clientaddr=192.168.0.101&clientname=&clientuser=&clientgroup=net-clients&targetgroup=adult&url=http://www.playboy.com/
 HTTP/1.0" 403 2469
  ...snip...

As you can see, the %i and %n have empty values.

Does this %i and %n info never make it to squidGuard because squid
removes it?  Is there a squid configuration option I should reset?  For
my testing purposes there are no other proxies chained together.
Otherwise, any input would be welcome.

TIA!

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Re: Sysinstall project?

[Miguel Mendez]

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:39:05 -0500
"Brian J. McGovern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[current@ removed]

Hi,

> I was just going through the list of projects at the FreeBSD website. I
> didn't see one for the installer. I was curious if anyone was working on
> an upgrade/replacement for sysinstall... I know of Jordan's paper on the 
> subject, et al, but curious if anyone was doing anything more than maintaining
> our existing sysinstall.

http://www.freebsd.org/projects/libh

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Re: mount problems.

[John Bleichert]

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, David Nicholas Kayal wrote:
> Subject: Re: mount problems.
> 
> Is there an http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-replys.html?
> 
> Here is a copy of my fstab file:
> 
> > more fstab
> # See the fstab(5) manual page for important information on automatic mounts
> # of network filesystems before modifying this file.
> #
> # DeviceMountpoint  FStype  Options Dump
> Pass#
> /dev/ad0s1b noneswapsw  0   0
> /dev/ad0s1a /   ufs rw  1   1
> proc/proc   procfs  rw  0   0
> >
> 
> The system will boot up once I type in the following at the mountroot
> prompt.
> 
> ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
> 


Did you build this drive in another box and then swap it over to the box 
it's in now? Sounds like the bootloader doesn't know where your drive is 
(which is common if you swap in a root drive). Assuming you're using 
the standard FreeBSD bootloader, have you tried re-initializing the MBR 
with fdisk? Can't remember the switch, see the fdisk man page.

Just a thought - this has happened to me when moving hard drives around.

JB

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Re: mount problems.

[David Nicholas Kayal]

Is there an http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-replys.html?

Here is a copy of my fstab file:

> more fstab
# See the fstab(5) manual page for important information on automatic mounts
# of network filesystems before modifying this file.
#
# DeviceMountpoint  FStype  Options Dump
Pass#
/dev/ad0s1b noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/ad0s1a /   ufs rw  1   1
proc/proc   procfs  rw  0   0
>

The system will boot up once I type in the following at the mountroot
prompt.

ufs:/dev/ad0s1a

I am just trying to figure out why I need to type that in.

here is a snip of dmesg:
ad0: 1033MB  [2100/16/63] at ata0-master BIOSPIO

Manual root filesystem specification:
  :  Mount  using filesystem 
   eg. ufs:/dev/da0s1a
  ?  List valid disk boot devices
 Abort manual input

mountroot> ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a

My goal is to have the system automatically boot up should the power be
recycled.

Just for grins:

> uname -a
FreeBSD irrigation.yayproductions.com 4.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #0:
Wed Oct  9 15:08:34 GMT 2002
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

I read the message:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-questions&m=104060845629617

But it seems that the person is having another problem all together.

Thanks for your help.

David

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Roman Neuhauser wrote:

> # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 11:40:36 -0800:
> > For the past two freebsd installations I've done, I've run into a problem
> > where they system, upon booting, throws me into a manual root filesystem
> > specification prompt where I need to manually type the file system and the
> > device I wish to boot off of.
> >
> > Yet when I check things such as /etc/fstab everything seems to be set up
> > correctly.
> >
> > Any assistance would be appreciated.
>
> 1) http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> 2) doesn't it have something to do with shuffling the disks after
> the install?
>
> I can't decipher whether a) you know how to get from there and just
> wonder about the cause, or b) you are actually looking for
> support.
>
> If a), I don't know. If b), the procedure has been described on the
> list just a few hours ago:
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-questions&m=104060845629617
>
> If it's something completely unrelated, then sorry for wasting your
> time. :)
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Re: mount problems.

[Roman Neuhauser]

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 11:40:36 -0800:
> For the past two freebsd installations I've done, I've run into a problem
> where they system, upon booting, throws me into a manual root filesystem
> specification prompt where I need to manually type the file system and the
> device I wish to boot off of.
> 
> Yet when I check things such as /etc/fstab everything seems to be set up
> correctly.
> 
> Any assistance would be appreciated.

1) http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

2) doesn't it have something to do with shuffling the disks after
the install?

I can't decipher whether a) you know how to get from there and just
wonder about the cause, or b) you are actually looking for
support.

If a), I don't know. If b), the procedure has been described on the
list just a few hours ago:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-questions&m=104060845629617

If it's something completely unrelated, then sorry for wasting your
time. :)

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Re: problem

[Steve Sizemore]

On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 02:27:55PM -0500, Hanauer wrote:
> I have and Dell PowerEdge 2600 and need to install FreeBSD
> Problem: This machine have SCSI PERC4/Di and the FreeBSD
>  not
> support this hardware.
> 
> Can everyone help me?
> 
> Tks

Have you actually tried this, and found that it doesn't work?

Despite the fact that it's not mentioned in the docs, it does
appear in the amr device driver. I've ordered such a server,
under the assumption that it would work - haven't yet had
a chance to test it.

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Re: Hard Drive Low Level Format (was No Subject)

[Mark]

- Original Message -
From: "Jud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dmitry Ternovoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: Hard Drive Low Level Format (was No Subject)


> On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:50:06 +0200 (EET), Dmitry Ternovoy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > it is IDE. As it all the same to make? (Disk low level format or other
> > format)
>
> Jerry McAllister is right: You want to back up your critical data
> *now*.  OK, who is the manufacturer? The reason I ask is to find
> the manufacturer's diagnostic and low level formatting utilities on the
> Web -  or you can do this yourself.


I am no hard disk guru, but last thing I remember is that a low-level format
on an IDE disk is a sure way to hose your entire disk. I'd say, strip all
pertinent data off of it, and get yourself a new hard disk. Better for you,
better for your data. :)

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Re: Hard Drive Low Level Format (was No Subject)

[Jud]

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:50:06 +0200 (EET), Dmitry Ternovoy 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

it is IDE. As it all the same to make? (Disk low level format or other 
format)

Jerry McAllister is right: You want to back up your critical data *now*.  
OK, who is the manufacturer?  The reason I ask is to find the 
manufacturer's diagnostic and low level formatting utilities on the Web - 
or you can do this yourself.
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mount problems.

[David Nicholas Kayal]

For the past two freebsd installations I've done, I've run into a problem
where they system, upon booting, throws me into a manual root filesystem
specification prompt where I need to manually type the file system and the
device I wish to boot off of.

Yet when I check things such as /etc/fstab everything seems to be set up
correctly.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thank you.
David



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undelete or ffsrecover

[Goedeke Michels]

Hello,

First of all, if this is the wrong group, please redirect me to a more 
appropiate place.

I am trying to recover some files I have accidentally deleted. However, 
ffsrecov continuously complains about a corrupt super block and misssing 
magic. The filesystems are ok, however (as long as you trust fsck) and 
mount without problems.
I've also come across undelete(2), but since I have no clue about C, I 
did not get very far with this (just put a main() { ... } around the 
example. Compiled, but did not do anything).
I am running 4.7 stable (~week old) with soft-updates enabled 
filesystems on an intel box.

Most info I found on the web said "no chance", but have been quite old 
and the appearance of an undelete function raised some hope.

Is there any way of getting those files back ? There has been no write 
activity on that partition since and now its mounted read-only. I do 
have the inode of the parent folder (which contents I am missing) and 
the names of the top level files and directories.

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Re: once last try

[Roman Neuhauser]

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 18:46:50 +0100:
> # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 12:16:34 -0500:
> > Thanks for taking the time. That helps me understand a lot.
> 
> no problem as long as you keep it on the list. see my sig.

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heh, not this one, but the one below. :)

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[no subject]

[Dmitry Ternovoy]

it is IDE. As it all the same to make? (Disk low level format or other format)

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Re: once last try

[Roman Neuhauser]

don't top-post please.
limit quoting to relevant context, please.

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 12:16:34 -0500:
> Thanks for taking the time. That helps me understand a lot.

no problem as long as you keep it on the list. see my sig.
 
> A while back I setup Postfix on my FreeBSD box at home to handle my 
> mail, mainly so I could use spamassassin. I was not certain what to 
> put in the postfix main.cf file for the hostname parameter. for some 
> reason jimarnold.org worked even though that domain lives on another 
> server.

there's so many misconfigured MTAs out there that the rest mostly
accepts any babbling if it at least vaguely resembles SMTP. :)
example, $config_directory/sample-smtpd.cf regarding EHLO/HELO
restrictions:

The default is to permit everything.

> at home i'm behind a freebsd firewall (192.168.0.1 internally and 
> 204.210.211.15 as you pointed out).
> The freebsd box and mail server lives on 192.168.0.2 and my mac is at 
> 192.168.0.4.
> 
> since i don't have a FQDN for my home setup what would you recommend 
> i use for my hostname when it comes to postfix's hostname parameter? 
> the hostname for the freebsd box is simply:
> hostname="spike"

[ 93 lines of useless cruft snipped. don't waste my bandwidth! ]

is your outside IP static, or DHCP?

static:

a) 1. put hostname="a11d015.neo.rr.com" in /etc/rc.conf
   2. let postfix get it from gethotname()
b) 1. leave /etc/rc.conf as it is
   2. put myhostname = a11d015.neo.rr.com in
  $config_directory/main.cf

DHCP:

can't really help, but ISTR the DHCP client can update it's hostname
from the server. if this is true:

1. configure DHCP to update the hostname from the server
2. put myhostname = a11d015.neo.rr.com in $config_directory/main.cf

but I might be on crack.

if you can get your Postfix to EHLO a11d015.neo.rr.com, you've
covered the biggest obstacle in talking to mx1.freebsd.org.

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Re:

[Jud]

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:17:36 +0200 (EET), Dmitry Ternovoy 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well! I have very many bad sectors! How can I do to get rid from them?


Who is the manufacturer of the hard drive?  Is it SCSI or IDE?
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Re: your mail

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> Well! I have very many bad sectors! How can I do to get rid from them?

Unfortunately, if you are seeing bad sectors, it probably means that
you have already used up all the spare remapping sectors - this 
happens in the background without you knowing it.If this is
true, it also probably means that the disk is rapidly going bad 
and just doing a low level format might buy you only a few days
reprieve before it dies altogether.   

So, your best bet by far is to rescue as much important data from
the disk as possible now and get a new disk.  Forget the low level
format.   It is too late for that.

jerry


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[no subject]

[Dmitry Ternovoy]

Well! I have very many bad sectors! How can I do to get rid from them?

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Re: once last try

[Albertus Magnus]

On Monday 23 December 2002 11:49, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
 
>> Anyway, as of now, using KDE Kmail, I have tried three different
> > MTA's: two ISP's and sendmail on my own FBSD box connected to the
> > cable modem. In each case they supply (to freebsd.org) the correct
> > hostname which resolves to the correct IP address, and vice versa. 
> > Yet only one gets through.  I'm not sure why... the only errors I
> > get are something like "connection refused" or "service
> > unavailable" or something equally non-specific.
> >
>
> > Maybe I should check some of the spam that does get through, and
> > see how they do it ;-)
>
> more interesting: post the bounces.
>

OK, we'll try this one and see if it gets through, or bounces.  It's 
been a while since I played around with these things.  As I recall, the 
bounce messages weren't too informative, though

Albert

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FW:

[Mike]

 


Google brings back many tools for this 

http://www.storage.ibm.com/hdd/support/download.htm  has some that I
imagine can be ran from a boot disk.

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Ternovoy
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 


Hi! My BIOS not have tools for low level format (Compaq ProLiant)

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Telephony tools

[Mike]

I am looking for some tools so I can use my FreeBSD box to take messages
when I am away. I have found some caller ID stuff but little else.

Any sites know?

Hey it's my firewall on the net might as be a telemarketer zapper as
well


Cheers

M;)


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Re: once last try

[Roman Neuhauser]

don't top-post, please.
your MUA wraps text badly. fixed.

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 08:51:19 -0800:
> From: "Roman Neuhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[ ~25 lines of useless cruft snipped ]

> > Received: from ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com (ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com [65.24.7.36])
> > by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0731D43EDC
> > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 06:06:52 -0800 (PST)
> > (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > Received: from jimarnold.org (a11d015.neo.rr.com [204.210.211.15])
> > by ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gBNE6bjX002754;
> > Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:06:37 -0500 (EST)
> > Received: from [192.168.0.4] (mac [192.168.0.4])
> > by jimarnold.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
> > id C95AF369C; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:06:37 -0500 (EST)

[ ~50 lines of useless cruft snipped ]

> You get the below from a mail -v destaddress, maillog or what?  I would try
> the above mail -v tactic if you havent yet.

are you talking about the Received: headers? I got them from the
message, of course.

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Re:

[Brian]

if scsi the controller should have that capability, if ide a tool to set all
bits to zeros should be available on the drive manufacturer's site.

Bri

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Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 8:55 AM


> Hi! My BIOS not have tools for low level format (Compaq ProLiant)
>
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Re: once last try

[Roman Neuhauser]

don't top-post, please

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 08:47:23 -0800:
> From: "Fuzzy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I use roadrunner home with freebsd as my server
> > providing nat for 2 rfc1918 lans and serving as a smtp
> > and pop server for a handfull of virtual domains.
> >
> > Roadrunner may have started refusing what thinks
> > are relay requests. Since I don't use their smtp server
> > it hasn't affected me.
> >
> > could you use your office's smtp server when sending
> > out email with the office headers?
>
> your smtp server should always be the one for the net you are on,

which could be your ISP's server.

> I know of many occasions where people tried to use isp mail servers
> from their office whcich wasnt served by the above isp.  Most isps
> have been blocking this type of traffic for a few years now.

i'm not sure what type of traffic you're exactly talking about.

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Re: your mail

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> Hi! My BIOS not have tools for low level format (Compaq ProLiant)

Well, it depends on what you mean by low level format.
Probably you don't really want to do that anyway.  

There are a couple of good articles out there on the subject.  
I don't remember the URLs, but a search should get them.  

jerry


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[no subject]

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Hi! My BIOS not have tools for low level format (Compaq ProLiant)

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Re: your mail

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> Hallo! Help me please. How can I do low level format IDE disk on FreeBSD 4.7?

Use the BIOS tools.  There generally isn't such a thing beyond that
whether in FreeBSD or other OS.

jerry

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Re: once last try

[Brian]

You get the below from a mail -v destaddress, maillog or what?  I would try
the above mail -v tactic if you havent yet.

Bri

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Subject: Re: once last try


> # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 09:05:13 -0500:
> > ># [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 03:23:36 -0800:
> > >> OK. I have tried unsuscribing to this mailing list and
> > >> re-subscribing to it and then sending e-mails to it to
> > >> test but my e-mails never make it. I know this e-mail
> > >> will make it to the list but this account is not the
> > >> one im having problems with. I'm having problems with
> > >> my POP account. if someone could help me figure out
> > >> what the problem is i would appreciate it. I dont get
> > >> any error messages back either when i try to send
> > > > e-mails to this list from my POP account.
> >
> > I have the same problem as you. I am no longer able to send questions
> > in via my regular POP account. It suddenly stopped working a few
> > months back as far as I can tell. Once I unsubscribed from the list I
> > could THEN post a question.
> >
> > I use RoadRunner cable modem but use my work email address as the
> > return email address.  Roman, are you saying that's why I cannot post
> > to the list?
>
> because you use a RoadRunner cable modem or because you use your
> work address? neither is relevant. what is relevant is the MTA that
> talks to mx1.freebsd.org.the
>
> take a look at this (read bottom up):
>
> Received: from ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com (ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com [65.24.7.36])
> by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0731D43EDC
> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 06:06:52 -0800
(PST)
> (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Received: from jimarnold.org (a11d015.neo.rr.com [204.210.211.15])
> by ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id
gBNE6bjX002754;
> Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:06:37 -0500 (EST)
> Received: from [192.168.0.4] (mac [192.168.0.4])
> by jimarnold.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
> id C95AF369C; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:06:37 -0500 (EST)
>
> you typed this message on a box with IP 192.168.0.4.
>
> that machine has no idea what its name might be, and so (properly)
> sent "[192.168.0.4]" as an argument to the EHLO/HELO command in SMTP
> conversation with 204.210.211.15 (who's internal IP is not recorded
> in the above headers).
>
> 204.210.211.15 thinks its name is jimarnold.org (i don't think so.
> jimarnold.org resolves only to 216.201.16.227), and that's how it
> introduces itself in SMTP conversation with ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com.
> this box knows jimarnold.org's real name is a11d015.neo.rr.com, but
> it doesn't mind this lie.
>
> ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com knows it's real name, and that's what it uses in
> SMTP conversation with mx1.freebsd.org; that in turn sees the other
> side is honest, and has DNS ok both ways: ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com is
> 65.24.7.36, which is ohsmtp01.ogw.rr.com.
>
> voila, your message got through. should you bypass your provider's
> MTA your messges would get rejected; or, to be precise, your MTA
> would be rejected as mx1.freebsd.org would refuse to talk to it.
>
> reason? probably the larges source of spam is people with cable or
> xDSL connections. those computers most frequently don't fit the
> mx1's requirements regarding DNS (as opposed to ISP's servers, which
> do; if they don't, the ISP is clueless)
>
> > I don't see how this helps fight spam if I can post to the list from
> > an account that is no longer subscribed to the list.
>
> questions@ is advertised as a help forum (on CD's etc), and
> freebsd.org's postmasters probably think most of the people who
> seek FreeBSD-related help don't have the capacity to subscribe to a
> mailing list. :)
>
> > Plus, I have to believe there are many, many people like me who use
> > their work email addresses as their return email address from other
> > ISP's
>
> MTA's couldn't care less about your messages' headers. all that
> counts is the IPs, DNS names, and SMTP envelopes.
>
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Re: once last try

[Roman Neuhauser]

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 10:52:59 -0500:
> On Monday 23 December 2002 07:35, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
> > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 03:23:36 -0800:
> > > OK. I have tried unsuscribing to this mailing list and
> > > re-subscribing to it and then sending e-mails to it to
> > > test but my e-mails never make it. I know this e-mail
> > > will make it to the list but this account is not the
> > > one im having problems with. I'm having problems with
> > > my POP account. if someone could help me figure out
> > > what the problem is i would appreciate it. I dont get
> > > any error messages back either when i try to send
> > > e-mails to this list from my POP account.
> >
> > The freebsd.org MTA is somewhat anal about the properties of the
> > other side of the SMTP connection. The name sent in EHLO/HELO
> > must resolve to the address of the host, and its IP address must
> > resolve to that name. This is a very successful anti-spam measure. It
> > unfortunately also causes some collateral damage.

> But it seems to me that there's more to it than you've described above.  

might be. all I know about mx1.freebsd.org is what I observed (plus
what others have said on the list, which might just as well be
anecdotal evidence like mine).

> For example, ISTR that when I was using Pegasus Mail (Windows) I had to 
> change its settings so as not to put "@localhost" in the message-ID 
> header (or some such thing... I don't remember exactly).

yes. that is against RFC 822, so mx1.freebsd.org (or
hub.freebsd.org) *just might* reject such a message.
 
> Anyway, as of now, using KDE Kmail, I have tried three different MTA's: 
> two ISP's and sendmail on my own FBSD box connected to the cable modem.  
> In each case they supply (to freebsd.org) the correct hostname which 
> resolves to the correct IP address, and vice versa.  Yet only one gets 
> through.  I'm not sure why... the only errors I get are something like 
> "connection refused" or "service unavailable" or something equally 
> non-specific.
> 
> Could it be that freebsd.org checks farther back in the chain than just 
> the MTA that is talking to it?  Or is it something else?

*might*, but it probably doesn't. more likely there's something
wrong with the other two MTA's (from mx1's POV at least).

but, given that they already do header checks, they might as well
check if one of the Received: hops is an open relay, and reject the
message if so. that would keep the lists clear of spammers that are
smart enough to route their shit through more than one MTA so that
the one that talks to mx1.freebsd.org is deemed ok.
 
> Maybe I should check some of the spam that does get through, and see how 
> they do it ;-)

more interesting: post the bounces.

BTW, here's an instance of the situation we're talking about:

Out: 554 Service unavailable; [217.36.194.32] blocked using bl.spamcop.net,
reason: Blocked - see http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml?217.36.194.32
In:  HELO bigfoot.com  
Out: 503 Error: access denied for  
host217-36-194-32.in-addr.btopenworld.com[217.36.194.32]   
In:  MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Out: 503 Error: access denied for  
host217-36-194-32.in-addr.btopenworld.com[217.36.194.32]   
In:  RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Out: 503 Error: access denied for  
host217-36-194-32.in-addr.btopenworld.com[217.36.194.32]   
Out: 421 Error: too many errors
 
as an added bonus, this spammer's MTA ignored the 554 it got instead
of the server greeting, the server closed the session forcefully
after a configured limit of errors.

and... I reported this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] here's the outcome:

Session aborted, reason: too many errors
 Out: 220 mail.bellavista.cz ESMTP Postfix  
 In:  EHLO plutonium
 Out: 504 : Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname 
 In:  HELO plutonium
 Out: 504 : Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname 
 In:  QUIT  
 Out: 221 Bye   
 
it's not shown here, but plutonium should've been
plutonium.btinternet.com. 

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Re: once last try

[Brian]

your smtp server should always be the one for the net you are on, I know of
many occasions where people tried to use isp mail servers from their office
whcich wasnt served by the above isp.  Most isps have been blocking this
type of traffic for a few years now.

Bri

- Original Message -
From: "Fuzzy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jim Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Roman Neuhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: once last try


>
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Jim Arnold wrote:
>
> > I have the same problem as you. I am no longer able to send questions
> > in via my regular POP account. It suddenly stopped working a few
> > months back as far as I can tell. Once I unsubscribed from the list I
> > could THEN post a question.
> >
> > I use RoadRunner cable modem but use my work email address as the
> > return email address.  Roman, are you saying that's why I cannot post
> > to the list?
> >
>
> Observation:
>
> I use roadrunner home with freebsd as my server
> providing nat for 2 rfc1918 lans and serving as a smtp
> and pop server for a handfull of virtual domains.
>
> Roadrunner may have started refusing what thinks
> are relay requests. Since I don't use their smtp server
> it hasn't affected me.
>
> could you use your office's smtp server when sending
> out email with the office headers?
>
> fuz
>
>
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--> fgets error on NTLM squid

[Alex Carlos Braga Antão]

Hello,
   I installed Squid here (FreeBSD 4.7 - RELEASE), and I am usgin NTLM to authenticate 
my
users. I got the last STABLE version of squid on 17.20.2002.
   The problem is that when I  run squid -k reconfigure, I get an error message for 
EACH
ntlm_auth process I have on memory. The error message is:
 fgets() failed! dying. errno=35 (Resource temporarily unavailable)

Does anyone have any help ?
Thanks...

=
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==
  Analista de Sistemas e Suporte
Virago XV250s (índia) - Brasília,DF
 - ICQ:5144629
http://motoviagens.pagina.de http://e-modelismo.pagina.de
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Re: Gnome login

[Joe Marcus Clarke]

On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 07:47, socketd wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I have installed gnome2 on my FreeBSD 4.7 computer.
> In /root/.xinitrc I have this linie:
> exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login
> 
> The above linie create a login window, but I don't want that.
> If I delete this linie or put an & behind it, gnome will start and
> terminate.
> If I close the window gnome will terminate.
> 
> So my question is "How do I start gnome without that window popping up?"

All you need in ~/.xinitrc to start GNOME is:

exec /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session

Joe

> 
> br
> socketd
> 
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[no subject]

[Dmitry Ternovoy]

Hallo! Help me please. How can I do low level format IDE disk on FreeBSD 4.7?

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Re: how to check a revision of a file

[Matthew Seaman]

On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 03:59:31PM +0100, Didier Wiroth wrote:

> I was reading this security advisorie:
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-02:43.bind.asc
> 
> At the end of the file you can read for example this information:
> src/contrib/bind/CHANGES
>   RELENG_41.1.1.7.2.8
>   RELENG_4_7  1.1.1.7.2.7.2.1
>   RELENG_4_6  1.1.1.7.2.6.2.2
>   RELENG_4_5  1.1.1.7.2.4.4.2
>   RELENG_4_4  1.1.1.7.2.4.2.2
> src/contrib/bind/bin/named/db_defs.h
>   RELENG_41.1.1.2.2.6
>   RELENG_4_7  1.1.1.2.2.5.2.1
>   RELENG_4_6  1.1.1.2.2.4.2.2
>   RELENG_4_5  1.1.1.2.2.3.4.2
>   RELENG_4_4  1.1.1.2.2.3.2.2
> etc...
> I'm using 4.7-Release and I was wondering if my sources where uptodate! I
> looked at my /usr/src/contrib/bind... files but I could not find any kind of
> "Revision" numbers for example db_defs.h started with:
>  *  from db.h   4.16 (Berkeley) 6/1/90
>  *  $Id: db_defs.h,v 8.47 2002/05/18 01:02:53 marka Exp $
>  */
> There were no "revision" annotations anywhere in the file:
> 
> How do you find out if you have the correct sources of the files before
> recompiling and installing?

Usually all you need to do is find the $FreeBSD label in the file, eg.

% grep -F '$FreeBSD' /usr/src/UPDATING
$FreeBSD: src/UPDATING,v 1.73.2.76 2002/11/20 16:56:45 bmah Exp $

Any file originating from the FreeBSD project will have a revision
label like that, as will many files imported from other sources.

However, as you correctly observe, some contributed sources don't
contain the revision label.  In this case you've got to go to a
FreeBSD cvs repository and grab a copy of the appropriate version of
the file and compare it directly with what you have on your system.

eg.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/contrib/bind/CHANGES?rev=1.1.1.7.2.8

Download the appropriate version, and diff(1) it against the version
in your source tree.  If it's the same, then you're happy.  If there
are differences, you're going to have to use the cvsweb.cgi interface
to see if it corresponds to an earlier or later version of the file
than shown in the advisory, and act accordingly.

Alternatively, look at the dates that fixes were applied as notified
in the advisory: if you last cvsup'd using one of the listed tags
after the given date (and did a {build,install}world cycle) then
you're in the clear.

In the specific case you mention, 4.7-RELEASE does contain the
vulnerability in question.  Those are the files in CVS tagged with
RELENG_4_7_0_RELEASE.  Your best option is probably to upgrade to
4.7-RELEASE-p2 which is the latest version on the RELENG_4_7 branch
and contains only minimal changes (all of which are security fixes)
compared to 4.7-RELEASE.


Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: FreeBSD Terminal Server?

[Marcel Stangenberger]

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Kevin Greenidge wrote:

> That's exactly what I'm looking for. What documents
> and software were used to set it up?
>

only XFree86 is used. I used the one from the ports collection.

To set it up read this website http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/xauth-9.html

The setup mentioned there is based on linux, but it works the same for
FreeBSD. Once setup you can access it from any unix/linux/BSD workstation
without trouble. You can also access it thru windows with the help of
X-Win32 or eXceed.

If you need any help with the setup don't be afraid to ask me :-)

Good luck,

Marcel


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Re: once last try

[Albertus Magnus]

On Monday 23 December 2002 07:35, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
> # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 03:23:36 -0800:
> > OK. I have tried unsuscribing to this mailing list and
> > re-subscribing to it and then sending e-mails to it to
> > test but my e-mails never make it. I know this e-mail
> > will make it to the list but this account is not the
> > one im having problems with. I'm having problems with
> > my POP account. if someone could help me figure out
> > what the problem is i would appreciate it. I dont get
> > any error messages back either when i try to send
> > e-mails to this list from my POP account.
>
> The freebsd.org MTA is somewhat anal about the properties of the
> other side of the SMTP connection. The name sent in EHLO/HELO
> must resolve to the address of the host, and its IP address must
> resolve to that name. This is a very successful anti-spam measure. It
> unfortunately also causes some collateral damage.

Roman,

Excuse me for jumping in to this, but I'm also one who is also confused 
by all the hoops needed to successfully gain the favor of the 
freebsd.org MTA.  Thanks for your clear and detailed explanation (here 
and in another post).

But it seems to me that there's more to it than you've described above.  
For example, ISTR that when I was using Pegasus Mail (Windows) I had to 
change its settings so as not to put "@localhost" in the message-ID 
header (or some such thing... I don't remember exactly).

Anyway, as of now, using KDE Kmail, I have tried three different MTA's: 
two ISP's and sendmail on my own FBSD box connected to the cable modem.  
In each case they supply (to freebsd.org) the correct hostname which 
resolves to the correct IP address, and vice versa.  Yet only one gets 
through.  I'm not sure why... the only errors I get are something like 
"connection refused" or "service unavailable" or something equally 
non-specific.

Could it be that freebsd.org checks farther back in the chain than just 
the MTA that is talking to it?  Or is it something else?

Maybe I should check some of the spam that does get through, and see how 
they do it ;-)

Regards,
Albert

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Re: more question

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2002-12-23 11:19, osama zekry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sorry but i want know how can i creat database in freebsd server
> i heard that i can creat database using postgre sql
> how can i get a tutorial that teach me postgre sql

PostgreSQL has very good documentation about their database software
on their web site.  Try looking at http://www.postgresql.org/

> how can i using telnet to connect to freebsd and manage it
> sorry for more question

I'm not sure I understand this question.  Could you rephrase?

There's nothing really magic about being connected to a FreeBSD server
through telnet, that makes things different than the way things are
done through one of the normal console terminals.

- Giorgos


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Re: once last try

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2002-12-23 09:05, Jim Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 03:23:36 -0800:
> > OK. I have tried unsuscribing to this mailing list and
> > re-subscribing to it and then sending e-mails to it to test but
> > my e-mails never make it. I know this e-mail will make it to the
> > list but this account is not the one im having problems with. I'm
> > having problems with my POP account. If someone could help me
> > figure out what the problem is i would appreciate it.
>
> I have the same problem as you. I am no longer able to send
> questions in via my regular POP account. It suddenly stopped working
> a few months back as far as I can tell. Once I unsubscribed from the
> list I could THEN post a question.
>
> I use RoadRunner cable modem but use my work email address as the
> return email address.  Roman, are you saying that's why I cannot
> post to the list?

Are you getting some sort of error back when you post to the list?
If yes, then please post the *exact* error message as it usually
contains hints about the cause of the rejection.

> Now I have to jump through flaming hoops of fire so I can both
> subscribe to the list and post to it.

Or just trying to post with a setup that is broken in some manner.

> Guess I'm not buying into this theory...

If you post more details about the specific error that causes your
messages to be rejected, I'm sure the helpful folks on the list will
be eager to help you set things up.

- Giorgos


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Re: once last try

[Roman Neuhauser]

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-12-23 10:42:58 -0500:
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Jim Arnold wrote:
> > I have the same problem as you. I am no longer able to send questions
> > in via my regular POP account. It suddenly stopped working a few
> > months back as far as I can tell. Once I unsubscribed from the list I
> > could THEN post a question.
> >
> > I use RoadRunner cable modem but use my work email address as the
> > return email address.  Roman, are you saying that's why I cannot post
> > to the list?
> 
> Observation:
> 
>   I use roadrunner home with freebsd as my server
> providing nat for 2 rfc1918 lans and serving as a smtp
> and pop server for a handfull of virtual domains.
> 
>   Roadrunner may have started refusing what thinks
> are relay requests. Since I don't use their smtp server
> it hasn't affected me.
> 
>   could you use your office's smtp server when sending
> out email with the office headers?

this is not the problem. roadrunner relays just fine as evidenced by
headers in Jim's messages to the list.

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Re: FreeBSD Terminal Server?

[Kevin Greenidge]

That's exactly what I'm looking for. What documents
and software were used to set it up?



--- Marcel Stangenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Kevin Greenidge wrote:
> 
> > I am going to setup a Terminal Server and was
> > wondering if there are any projects like
> > http://ltsp.org i would rather use freebsd than
> linux
> > if possible. Any suggestions are appriciated.
> >
> 
> the link gives me a DNS error so i can't see what
> you want to build. But i
> have a terminal server based on XFree86 running here
> without problems.
> 
> I run all applications from the server and the
> filesystem i access is also
> on the server.
> 
> Marcel
> 
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Re: About Samba

[Kevin Greenidge]

Ok by looking at this document I think I see my
mistake. I did not create any samba users. I don't
know what lead me to thinking I could actually look at
the server without adding a samba user & password. 



--- Scott Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 05:59:17AM -0800, Kevin
> Greenidge wrote:
> > I installed FreeBSD 4.7 over the weekend and am
> having
> > the toughest time getting Samba working. 
> > 
> > I have up and running on the server but I cannot
> see
> > any of the Samba shares from my WinXP box. I can
> ping
> > the Samba box from winXP so I know it's there. I
> used
> > Webmin to configure Samba and don't remember it
> being
> > this much trouble when I installed Samba in the
> past. 
> 
> Sometimes, the trouble is in smb.conf with encrypted
> passwords.
> It's commented out by default and has to be
> uncommented. (or you can
> hack the registry on each MS box).  
> 
> I have a beginner's page on samba, which although
> Linux oriented, 
> might be of use at 
> http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/samba.html
> 
> Also, you'll find in
> /usr/local/share/doc/samba/textdocs something
> called DIAGNOSIS which might be helpful, it's a good
> troubleshooting
> guide.
> 
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make hierarchy

[FreeBSD-questions]

Hello all,

the other day i tried to build a jail, which didn`t work out.
I had started by updating all sources with 'releng=4'. this is what i did.
 D=/here/is/the/jail
 cd /usr/src
 make hierarchy DESTDIR=$D
 make obj
 make depend
 make all

everything went well up till 'make all'. it gave errorcode 1. it
couldn`t set my max.writespeed with burn.c if i recall correctly.
So i tried it with downloading all sources with releng=4_7.
Did all the previous steps and it gave me another errorcode 1.
So i thought it would be the best thing to get the sources with
releng=4_7_0 and do it all over again.
When i got to make hierarchy DESTDIR=$D it said: don`t know how to
make hierarchy. stopped.

I's really like to try and build a jail, but i`m kinda stuck in the
process. Does anyone know what to do or how to solve this?
Thanks.

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how to check a revision of a file

[Didier Wiroth]

Hey,

I was reading this security advisorie:
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-02:43.bind.asc

At the end of the file you can read for example this information:
src/contrib/bind/CHANGES
  RELENG_41.1.1.7.2.8
  RELENG_4_7  1.1.1.7.2.7.2.1
  RELENG_4_6  1.1.1.7.2.6.2.2
  RELENG_4_5  1.1.1.7.2.4.4.2
  RELENG_4_4  1.1.1.7.2.4.2.2
src/contrib/bind/bin/named/db_defs.h
  RELENG_41.1.1.2.2.6
  RELENG_4_7  1.1.1.2.2.5.2.1
  RELENG_4_6  1.1.1.2.2.4.2.2
  RELENG_4_5  1.1.1.2.2.3.4.2
  RELENG_4_4  1.1.1.2.2.3.2.2
etc...
I'm using 4.7-Release and I was wondering if my sources where uptodate! I
looked at my /usr/src/contrib/bind... files but I could not find any kind of
"Revision" numbers for example db_defs.h started with:
 *  from db.h   4.16 (Berkeley) 6/1/90
 *  $Id: db_defs.h,v 8.47 2002/05/18 01:02:53 marka Exp $
 */
There were no "revision" annotations anywhere in the file:

How do you find out if you have the correct sources of the files before
recompiling and installing?

Thanks a lot
Didier



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Re: IDE CD-RW and burncd

[Warren Block]

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Alexander Popkov wrote:

> I have a trouble with writing CD-R(W) on FreeBSD 4.7
> 
> i am use IDE CD RW and `burncd` utility to write, but for any
> operation `burncd` report error:
> 
> scylla# burncd -f /dev/acd0c blank
> burncd: open(/dev/acd0c): Operation not permitted
> 
> What i do incorrectly ?

> INFO: ls -lo /dev/acd*
> crw-r-  4 root  operator  - 117,   0 Dec 23 14:54 /dev/acd0c
  ^^ 
This says that only the owner (root) has write access to acd0c.  So you
can either log in as root or change the permissions on the device.

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