FreeBSD-MBR is not working

2004-08-10 Thread Stevan Tiefert
Hello list,

when I install FreeBSD alone on my computer the system is booting normally. 
When I install Windows 98 before and then installing FreeBSD and boot 
afterwards the computer, the FreeBSD-MBR offers the menue to boot the 
systems, but every stroke on the keyboard causes a "beep", the countdown to 
boot the last system is not active and only Ctrl+Alt+Del is possible.

1. Maybe I should say that I installed my FreeBSD with the option:
set hw.ata.ata_dma="0"
at the loader prompt, because my HDD is not understanding UDMA/33 and higher 
and I had to configure that manually.
2. Maybe I should say that, if I use the "standard"-MBR from Windows 98 the 
Windows is starting. That is the reason that I think that maybe something is 
wrong with the FreeBSD-MBR.

Any solutions for this scenario?

Bye
Stevan Tiefert

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gcc34 Question - Request for help

2004-08-10 Thread SP Network Solutions
Hi there,

I have just install the gcc 3.4 into my FreeBSD 4.10 via the ports/lang

after make, make check and make install it shows that all install...

but when I type : gcc -v it still show my old version 2.95.4

My question is: How do I go about in making my machine to use the new gcc34?

What will be the next step after "make install" ?

Anyone can help??...I'm confuse and this is not the first time I come accross as I 
have the same problem with my gcc33.

Thank you

Sincerely

Adrian
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mod_python testing using mptest.py failed on FreeBSD5.2.1

2004-08-10 Thread Suhaimi Jamalludin
Hi All,

Need your advice on mod_python.
I'm running FreeBSD5.2.1, apache+mod_ssl-1.3.31+2.8.19
and mod_python-2.7.10. I have
done the configuration seting on http.conf and restart
my apache.
Apache runing fine, however during my mod_python
testing I got  this
error in my httpd-error.log.

Error Message:
 make_obcallback(): could not import
mod_python.apache.
 make_obcallback(): could not call init.
 [Tue Aug 10 11:57:32 2004] [error] [client
10.1.4.118] python_handler:
make_obcallback returned no obCallBack!

Can somebody advice me please.
Appreciate your help.

regards,
suhaimi

My step-by-step for mod_python on FreeBSD5.2.1
-
1) Installed python
 # cd /usr/ports/lang/python
 # make -DWITHOUT_THREADS install clean

2) Installed mod_python
 # cd /usr/ports/www/mod_python
 # make -DWANT_EAPI install clean

3) Modify apache configuration file
 #vi /usr/local/etc/apache/http.conf
 add below line at the end of the http.conf
 snip-
 
   AddHandler python-program .py
   PythonHandler mptest
   PythonDebug On
 
 snap-

4) Create mptest.py
 # vi /usr/local/www/cgi-bin/modpython/mptest.py
 add below line in mptest.py
 snip-
 from mod_python import apache

 def handler(req):
 req.write("Hello World!")
 return apache.OK
 snap-
5) Restart Apache
 # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache restart
6) Open Mozilla Web Browser type the mod_python test
file as below.

 http://10.1.4.8/cgi-bin/modpython/mptest.py

 Browser output:
 Internal Server Error
 The server encountered an internal error or
misconfiguration and was
unable to complete your request.
 Please contact the server administrator,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and inform
them of the time the error occurred, and anything you
might have done
that may have caused the error.
 More information about this error may be available in
the server error
log.

7) Check apache log file
 # tail /var/log/httpd-error.log
   [Tue Aug 10 11:57:24 2004] [notice] caught SIGTERM,
shutting down
 [Tue Aug 10 11:57:28 2004] [notice] Apache configured
-- resuming
normal operations
 [Tue Aug 10 11:57:28 2004] [notice] Accept mutex:
flock (Default: flock)
 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
 make_obcallback(): could not import
mod_python.apache.
 make_obcallback(): could not call init.
 [Tue Aug 10 11:57:32 2004] [error] [client
10.1.4.118] python_handler:
make_obcallback returned no obCallBack!

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Re: Graphical Problem FX5500

2004-08-10 Thread Stevan Tiefert
On Wednesday 11 August 2004 01:42, emre kurt wrote:
> I have a Nvidia Geforce FX5500 graphics card and
> xf86config
> program gives error everytime.And also i cant use
> graphical config tool
> because i see black screen. How can i configure my
> graphical
> environment ? Thanks for your interests
>
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Hello emre kurt,

use:
xf86config
instead!

Bye
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RE: Porting new Software into FreeBSD

2004-08-10 Thread Eric Crist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> have not yet found a way to port it into FreeBSD ports. Can any body
>> tell me how its done. Are there any documentation on how to do this?
>>
>> The new software is called RURS (Remote Unix Recovery Service).
Simply
>> said, it is the same as WINDOWS Gost utility.
>
> we already have dd and rsh. it's of course not the same as
> WINDOWS Gost (or maybe ghost). it's much better and fer much
> easier to use. ___

IMHO, It shouldn't be about what we (the freebsd community) already
have, but what others have to offer.  Please just help point him in the
right direction (I don't know in this case), rather than say, 'We
already have something like that, go away.'  This RURS application *may*
be better in some ways than dd or rsh alone.

Thanks for being a part of the community.

Eric F Crist


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Re: Porting new Software into FreeBSD

2004-08-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
> have not yet found a way to port it into FreeBSD ports. Can any body tell me
> how its done. Are there any documentation on how to do this?
>
> The new software is called RURS (Remote Unix Recovery Service). Simply said,
> it is the same as WINDOWS Gost utility.

we already have dd and rsh. it's of course not the same as WINDOWS Gost
(or maybe ghost). it's much better and fer much easier to use.
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RE: upgrade

2004-08-10 Thread Eric Crist
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rail mail
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 12:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: upgrade
>
>
> moved from slowlaris to freebsd for a web server. it is in a
> production environment.
>
> will a binary upgrade catch all the security updates? should
> I expect anything to break? (at least web server, ftp and ssh)
>
> besides time and effort, how does cvsup and build world
> compare to binary upgrade?
>
> should I run the upgrade from sysinstall from disk, or throw
> in a cd and use that sysinstall?
>
> the quick and dirty of the system is
> running 5.1 on a dual xeon, hot swap scsi disks, tape drive
>
> thanks

Congratulations on the move to FreeBSD.  I think you will find it was a
wise move!

The difference between a binary upgrade and an upgrade via CVS or cvsup
is the time between creation of the sources.  Binary upgrades generally
come out durning major releases, for example, from 4.9 to 4.10.  Any
security patches added between that time were only available with a
CVS/cvsup upgrade, followed by a system rebuild.

If you're looking for an install-time answer to your third question, I
usually download a 'mini' .ISO and install via FTP, to catch the most
recent version of the 4.x branch.  Then I immediately follow with a
cvsup and a make world, followed by a new kernel build.  This ensures I
have the best sources and most current security patches (that are
stable).

As to your last question, although I quoted 4.x branch sources/binaries,
this all applies the same to the 5.x and beyond.

Hope this was a help.

Eric F Crist


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upgrade

2004-08-10 Thread Rail mail
moved from slowlaris to freebsd for a web server. it is in a
production environment.

will a binary upgrade catch all the security updates? should I expect
anything to break? (at least web server, ftp and ssh)

besides time and effort, how does cvsup and build world compare to
binary upgrade?

should I run the upgrade from sysinstall from disk, or throw in a cd
and use that sysinstall?

the quick and dirty of the system is
running 5.1 on a dual xeon, hot swap scsi disks, tape drive

thanks
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Re: Monitor Resolution???

2004-08-10 Thread Oliver Fuchs
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Hakim Z. Singhji wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> I have a question that may be trivial to most however, I don't seem to know how to 
> modify my monitor resolution. I am using FreeBSD without X windows install.  Text 
> only and the font and overall resolution is 'HUGE'.  I recently installed 4.10 (last 
> night) but I don't know where I went wrong with this? Thanks in advance for your 
> help.
> 

An acceptable resolution is VESA_800x600 (I do not think that the kernel can
do more at the moment?). 

To enable it you have to recompile your kernel with
option SC_PIXEL_MODE enabled (so you can use the raster text mode).

Then load the vesa support with kldload vesa and try 
"vidconrtol -g 100x37 VESA_800x600".

If it is o.k. for you put in your /etc/rc.conf file:
allscreens_flags="-g 100x37 VESA_800x600" 
and add to /boot/loader.conf:
vesa_load="YES" 
to load the vesa module at startup.

Oliver
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Re: Help!

2004-08-10 Thread Lucas Holt
its probably not the drives, but rather the IDE controller.  Make sure 
the chipset is supported, and that the bios settings are correct.  Also 
make sure the drives are jumpered correctly.

On Aug 11, 2004, at 12:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a problem with FreeBSD: it doesn't detect my IDE drives though
they're pretty known.
My HD is a Seagate Barracuda of 40GB and my CDROM is a LG 52x.

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Re: Graphical Problem FX5500

2004-08-10 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:42:44 -0700 (PDT)
emre kurt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a Nvidia Geforce FX5500 graphics card and
> xf86config 
> program gives error everytime.And also i cant use
> graphical config tool 
> because i see black screen. How can i configure my
> graphical 
> environment ? Thanks for your interests

try xf86cfg -textmode
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5.2.1 hang during install attempt.

2004-08-10 Thread Egon Spengler
My box is currently running 4.9, and 4.10 boots to sysinstall without 
difficulty on this box
dmesg output:
 AMD Features=0xc044
real memory  = 268435456 (262144K bytes)
avail memory = 257081344 (251056K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc040b000.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
Using $PIR table, 6 entries at 0xc00fa040
npx0:  on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0:  on motherboard
pci0:  on pcib0
agp0:  mem 
0xa000-0xa3ff
at device 0.0 on pci0
pcib1:  at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
pci1:  at 0.0 irq 3
pci1:  at 0.1
rl0:  port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 
0x8030-0x803000ff ir
q 3 at device 3.0 on pci0
rl0: Ethernet address: 00:48:54:5b:7a:c9
miibus0:  on rl0
rlphy0:  on miibus0
rlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
rl1:  port 0x2400-0x24ff mem 
0x8040-0x804
000ff irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci0
rl1: Ethernet address: 00:10:b5:ec:d6:b0
miibus1:  on rl1
rlphy1:  on miibus1
rlphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
pcm0:  port 0x2890-0x2893,0x2800-0x283f mem 
0x8020-0x
80207fff irq 5 at device 5.0 on pci0
pcm0: 
isab0:  at device 20.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
atapci0:  port 0x2880-0x288f at device 20.1 
on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0:  port 0x2840-0x285f irq 11 at device 
20.2 on p
ci0
usb0:  on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1:  port 0x2860-0x287f irq 11 at device 
20.3 on p
ci0
usb1:  on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ukbd0: Chicony Compaq Internet Keyboard, rev 1.10/1.02, addr 2, iclass 3/1
kbd0 at ukbd0
uhid0: Chicony Compaq Internet Keyboard, rev 1.10/1.02, addr 2, iclass 3/1
pci0:  (vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3057) at 20.4
orm0:  at iomem 
0xc-0xc,0xe9000-0xebfff,0xec000-0xe on
isa0
pmtimer0 on isa0
fdc0:  at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0:  at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
ppc0:  at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold
plip0:  on ppbus0
lpt0:  on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0:  on ppbus0
IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding 
enabled,
default to deny, logging limited to 10 packets/entry by default
ad0: 28629MB  [58168/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66
ad1: 5495MB  [11166/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA33
acd0: CD-RW  at ata1-master UDMA33
acd1: DVD-ROM  at ata1-slave UDMA33
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a
drm0:  port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 
0x8000-0x8000,0x8800-
0x8fff irq 3 at device 0.0 on pci1
info: [drm] AGP at 0xa000 64MB
info: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.8.0 20020828 on minor 0
info: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode
When attempting to install 5.2.1, the install hangs (after using ANY of 
the menu offerings) at the following point (verbose logging enabled):
pci_cfgintr: 1:0 INTA BIOS IRQ3
   found->vendor=0x1002, dev=0x5961, revid=0x01
   bus=1, slot=0, func=0
   class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1
   cmdreg=0x0007, statreg=0x02b0, cachelnsz=8 (dwords)
   lattimer=0x42 (1980ns), mingnt=0x08 (2000ns), 
maxlat=0x00(0ns)
   intpin=a, irq=3
   powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0
   map[10]: type 3, range 32, base , size 27, 
memory disabled
and there it sits, requiring hard reboot to start up again. It appears 
to be related to the irq 3, which both one nic and my video card share, 
but as I indicated, 4.9 is installed, and 4.10 will boot to sysinstall 
with no problems. I have googled using the various info and nothing 
pertinent appears regarding this. Assistance would be greatly appreciated.

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Help!

2004-08-10 Thread luisgerardorxti
I have a problem with FreeBSD: it doesn't detect my IDE drives though
they're pretty known.

My HD is a Seagate Barracuda of 40GB and my CDROM is a LG 52x.



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Can I select a single package with PortMnager

2004-08-10 Thread Peter Ryan
Hi Mike,

I see from my digging around that you
are the author of portmanager, so I hope
its ok to send questions in your direction.

I have KDE installed as a package, and
I assume that its dependency openldap also
came as part of the package.

Can I use portmanager to upgrade the 
package ?

Also, can I select just one, eg KDE.

When I did portmanager -s it ran through
all the ports (packages ?) that I 
installed.

I am new to this, and am still confused
about the difference between ports and
packages. (confused about what I can
upgrade in a package that came as a
package compared to a package that came
from a port)

Thanks
Peter
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RE: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread JJB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 2004-08-10 22:02, Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>>> On 2004-08-10 18:14, JJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [
...badly
>>> quoted stuff... ] I apologize in advance if I jump in in what
might
>>> sound like a knit-picking manner.  However, if this "fix"
produces
>>> messages like the one above, where all the usual mutilation of
>>> Outlook regarding quoting and wrapping the text is clearly
>>> visible...
>>>
>>> it's not a fix :-(
>>
>> Giorgos-- it would be reasonable to assume that JJB was using the
>> tool he speaks of, only that would not be correct; oe-quotefix
>> doesn't work with Outlook itself:
>>
>> ] From: JJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> ] Subject: RE: Top posting solution
>> ] Message-id:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> ] X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
>> ] X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0)
>>
>> [ Only someone condemned to support Windows users would want to
>> understand the relationship between Outlook and OE in more
detail,
>> so suffice it to say that the two are much more different than
one
>> might expect from the shared name. ]
>
> Thanks for the clarification!  I was sleepy when I replied and
somehow
> missed the important yet subtle detail.  I do know the differences
of
> Outlook and OE.  I regularly have to read email formatted [or
should I
> say "unformatted"?] by Outlook 2003 for my $realjob and I've used
both
> Outlook and OE in the past.
>
> I just felt it was a bit funny to find a message in support of
> Outlook that exhibited exactly the sort of malformed output that
> Outlook is known for. What I wrote wasn't meant to be an offense
to
> JJB who's one of the regular posters and *does* contribute a lot
to
> helping others :-)
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Final closing comments on this thread.

I like many people who are FreeBSD users in one form or another have
to use the MS/Windows email clients in the process of earning a
living. This is just the reality of working today in the IT field. I
have always top posted to this list because that's how office
outlook worked. I had previously seen the fix for outlook express
and did not find out about the office outlook fix until the fix
author replied to my questions about his web site today.

I just though there might be more office outlook users on this list
who did not know about the bottom posting fix and posted the start
of this thread just as an innocent information transfer kind of
thing.

I was not implying any preference to top or bottom posting. I
personally prefer reading a thread composed of all bottom posting or
all top posting. When they are intermixed the flow is very hard to
follow. Since the majority of posts to this list are bottom posted I
though that now that I have a fix for my office outlook to bottom
post, I would start using it to do my part to make the threads I
post into easier to read and follow the flow of the conversation.











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Re: wedged

2004-08-10 Thread Ryan
To update your system, you should use the following procedure:

# make buildworld
# make buildkernel KERNCONF=CONFIG-FILE
# make installkernel KERNCONF=CONFIG-FILE
# reboot
You should boot in single user mode (using boot -s from loader prompt for
example). Then run:

# mergemaster -p
# make installworld
# mergemaster
# reboot
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From: "Gary Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:52 PM
Subject: wedged


>
> People,
>
> This morning I cvsup's the -current src for my laptop.
> When I try to "config GENERIC", eithr directly or by typing
> make buildkernel, I get an error from /usr/sbin/config
> that it is not in sync with the kernel.  I think it
> complains that it is 500012 where I need 500013.
>
> I tried cd'ing to /usr/sbin/config and doing a make
> install clean.  Stumbled into a lex error and the build
> quits.  Any thoughts on what to try next??  I'm
> doing a buildworld just in case buildkernel reaches into
> soome newly build binary.  Otherwise, could somebody
> with a working config -CURRENT binary email it my way.
>
> (I'm not sure what the lex error is or why is halts
> the build; possibly the makefile/*mk stuff is set up
> to die at any err.)
>
> Ideas, guys?  and, tia, of course,
>
> gary
>
>
>
> -- 
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Re: error during "make buildkernel" in 5.2.1

2004-08-10 Thread Ryan
To update your system, you should use the following procedure:

# make buildworld
# make buildkernel KERNCONF=TRITON
# make installkernel KERNCONF=TRITON
# reboot
You should boot in single user mode (using boot -s from loader prompt for
example). Then run:

# mergemaster -p
# make installworld
# mergemaster
# reboot
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Subject: RE: error during "make buildkernel" in 5.2.1


> From: Mike
> >
> > This is my first foray into 5.2.1.  I installed and ran cvsup
> (standard
> > and for ports).  I went to build the kernel and and "make buildkernel"
> > died.  Here is the error message.  Any comments or hints would be
> helpful.
> >
> > # make buildkernel KERNEL=TRITON
> >
> > ...
>
> I believe that should be:
>
> make buildkernel KERNCONF=TRITON
>
> --
> Danny MacMillan
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Re: anyone have Samba3 and KDE on same 4.10 box ?

2004-08-10 Thread Peter Ryan
> On Tuesday 10 August 2004 05:12 pm, Peter Ryan wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Do you have Samba3 and KDE on the same 4.10 Box ?
> >
> > How did you manage to install Samba3 ?
> >
> > I get version conflicts with openldap.
> > KDE is using 2.1.30 and Samba 3 wants 2.2.xx
> >
> > I cant seem to delete KDE cleanly, and I
> > cant delete openldap.
> >
> > I think I am back to reinstalling from scrach
> > again, but now I am worried where I get a KDE
> > using the 2.2 version of openldap.
> >
> > Any pointers welcomed with much relief.
> > Peter

> 
> Before you wipe all of your ports I suggest you try a current
> cvsup to get them all up to date then load and 
> run /usr/ports/sysutils/portmanager.
> 
> -Mike
> 

Thanks Mike, I will try that.

Sounds like it might help.

Regards
Peter
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RE: error during "make buildkernel" in 5.2.1

2004-08-10 Thread Dan MacMillan
From: Mike
>
> This is my first foray into 5.2.1.  I installed and ran cvsup
(standard
> and for ports).  I went to build the kernel and and "make buildkernel"
> died.  Here is the error message.  Any comments or hints would be
helpful.
>
> # make buildkernel KERNEL=TRITON
>
> ...

I believe that should be:

make buildkernel KERNCONF=TRITON

--
Danny MacMillan

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Re: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-08-10 22:02, Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >On 2004-08-10 18:14, JJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [ ...badly quoted stuff... ]
> >I apologize in advance if I jump in in what might sound like a
> >knit-picking manner.  However, if this "fix" produces messages like the
> >one above, where all the usual mutilation of Outlook regarding quoting
> >and wrapping the text is clearly visible...
> >
> >it's not a fix :-(
>
> Giorgos-- it would be reasonable to assume that JJB was using the tool he
> speaks of, only that would not be correct; oe-quotefix doesn't work with
> Outlook itself:
>
> ] From: JJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ] Subject: RE: Top posting solution
> ] Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ] X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
> ] X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0)
>
> [ Only someone condemned to support Windows users would want to understand
> the relationship between Outlook and OE in more detail, so suffice it to
> say that the two are much more different than one might expect from the
> shared name. ]

Thanks for the clarification!  I was sleepy when I replied and somehow
missed the important yet subtle detail.  I do know the differences of
Outlook and OE.  I regularly have to read email formatted [or should I
say "unformatted"?] by Outlook 2003 for my $realjob and I've used both
Outlook and OE in the past.

I just felt it was a bit funny to find a message in support of Outlook that
exhibited exactly the sort of malformed output that Outlook is known for.
What I wrote wasn't meant to be an offense to JJB who's one of the regular
posters and *does* contribute a lot to helping others :-)

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Re: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread Chuck Swiger
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On 2004-08-10 18:14, JJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ ...badly quoted stuff... ]
I apologize in advance if I jump in in what might sound like a
knit-picking manner.  However, if this "fix" produces messages like the
one above, where all the usual mutilation of Outlook regarding quoting
and wrapping the text is clearly visible...
it's not a fix :-(
Giorgos-- it would be reasonable to assume that JJB was using the tool he 
speaks of, only that would not be correct; oe-quotefix doesn't work with 
Outlook itself:

] From: JJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
] Subject: RE: Top posting solution
] Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
] X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
] X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0)
[ Only someone condemned to support Windows users would want to understand the 
relationship between Outlook and OE in more detail, so suffice it to say that 
the two are much more different than one might expect from the shared name. ]

Anyway, the oe-quotefix utility actually does do a pretty good job of fixing 
the braindead quoting of Outlook Express.  But I'd much rather use Mozilla 
than Outlook from the standpoints of both security and only mildly broken mail 
composition by comparision.  But then, I'd rather use Mail.app than Mozilla. 
For that matter, I'd rather use Emacs with fill-mode on and fill-column set to 
76-- for two levels of quoting and a space to fit into 80-cols without 
wrapping-- to actually compose ASCII text than anything else.

oe-quotefix behaves very much like what M-q (fill-paragraph) does in Emacs.
--
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RE: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread Eric Crist
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJB
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:46 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG
> Subject: Top posting solution
>
> To
> all you Unix hard liners, Please instead of
> complaining to the top posters, it would be so much nicer if
> you just informed the MS/Windows top poster of the above
> links so they know about the solution to fix their email
> clients to adhere to the Unix email format used on this list.
>
> Thanks for you attention
>

What I have found works for me is to compose a message that I would find
easy to read.  I know this doesn't mean everyone is able to read it as
well as others, or myself, but I've got a better chance, I've found, if
I edit the message to contain only the pertinent information to my
reply.

This does not always apply to messages between two or three people, as
it is helpful to maintain a thread, and it's not as likely to get munged
up through many edits.

It's really very simple.  It doesn't matter to me if the reply is top or
bottom posted, as long as I'm able to ascertain the meaning or questions
being posed.  If I can read it, I will generally respond.  If I want my
message replied to, I create it in such as way that people don't
generally find it difficult to read.

Thanks!

Eric F Crist


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Re: Outbound SMTP filtering

2004-08-10 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Nick Rogness wrote:
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Warren Block wrote:

greylist-milter and clamav-milter are doing well for me.  They both scan 
outbound mail, although I'm not sure if it's possible to set clamav-milter 
to scan only outbound mail.
I guess I'm looking for more of a commercial solution.  That is, I
don't want to have to perform a lot of administration of adding
filters and virus signatures constantly.
milter-greylist (I always get that backwards) handles itself--it's a 
very effective anti-spam measure with about zero maintenance.  See

http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting
clamav-milter includes freshclam, a daemon which automatically updates 
virus signatures.  The most maintenance I've done is to portupgrade them 
when new versions come out.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: order of starting services at boot?

2004-08-10 Thread Duane Winner

Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Aug 10), Duane Winner said:
Can anybody explain to me how FreeBSD 5.2.1 controls the start order
of the scripts in /etc/rc.d ?
I've looked all over and am having trouble gleening what controls this.

The rc manpage explains rc.d/ and the magic keywords used inside its
scripts.
Ugh. I kept seeing that but kept thinking I was misunderstanding since 
the lines began with '#' and couldn't get over thinking they were 
comments only. Thanks.
 

For instance, if I would like to start ipfw before dhclient (right
now dhclient starts, then ipfw starts), how would I accomplish this?

Add "ipfw" to dhclient's REQUIRE line.  This change was made to
-current, so when 5.3 ships it'll already do what you want :)
That's good news. So, I take it then I'm not some sort of freak for 
wanting to do this? :)

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RE: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread Eric Crist
CRAP.  HERE WE GO AGAIN.


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JJB
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:46 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG
> Subject: Top posting solution
>
>
> Over the years I have seen many posts on this list where Unix
> hard liners complain about people posting their replies to
> the top of the email messages on this list.
>
> The fact of life is all the Unix mail clients adhere to the
> Unix email format of posting the reply to the bottom of the
> email while indenting with a quote character.
>
> Top posting came along when MS/Windows came on the market
> with their own email clients: Outlook express which is the
> email client built into Internet explorer and the MS/Office
> Outlook email client.
>
> There is a little known fix for MS/Outlook express and
> MS/Office Outlook email clients that change the behavior of
> these MS/Windows email clients so they adhere to the Unix
> email format of posting the reply to the bottom of the email
> while indenting with a quote character.
>
> Information and fix download can be found at these URLs.
>
>  MS/Outlook express http://home.cs.tum.edu/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>
>  MS/Office Outlook
> http://home.cs.tum.edu/~jain/software/outlook-> quotefix/
>
> To
> all you Unix hard liners, Please instead of
> complaining to the top posters, it would be so much nicer if
> you just informed the MS/Windows top poster of the above
> links so they know about the solution to fix their email
> clients to adhere to the Unix email format used on this list.
>
> Thanks for you attention
>
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CRAP. HERE WE GO AGAIN.


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Re: Clothing

2004-08-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-08-10 17:17, Jacob Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you have any hoodies featuring the BSD daemon? If
> not, are there any plans to manufacture them in the future?

You might find interesting the clothing items on these pages:

http://mall.daemonnews.org/tshirts.html
http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/
http://www.thinkgeek.com/apparel/

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Re: php5 & libgd

2004-08-10 Thread antenneX
From: "Marc Cabanatuan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:31 PM
Subject: php5 & libgd


> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> ive grabbed php5 and attempted to grab phpMyAdmin from ports and in
> doing so (php5 works fine) I receive the error 'Unknown extension gd.'
> I recently discoevered that php was split from the core and its
> extensions, however in enabling 'gd' in php5-extensions, i still
> receive the same error.
> % make install clean
> Unknown extension gd.
> *** Error code 1
> Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions.
>
> Is gd located in ports? What is the recommended way of grabbing libgd
> and installing it? pkg_add? Any help with this would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> m

I'm having the same trouble with php4 -- the gd fails everytime.

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Re: wedged

2004-08-10 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 07:57:55PM -0400, Ryan wrote:
> Read /usr/src/UPDATING
> For Proper Use Of Recompiling System
> 
> Also
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
> 

I assume you're referring to my needing gcc-3.4. (The note
from 28jul04.)  I thought that built with 5.2.1, p9 a few days 
ago.  But, no, I'm still at 3.3.  --Well, live n' learn, 
I guess.  thanks for the clue!

gary


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Re: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-08-10 18:14, JJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kevin Stevens wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, JJB wrote:
> >
> >> The fact of life is all the Unix mail clients adhere to the Unix
> >> email format of posting the reply to the bottom of the email
> while
> >> indenting with a quote character.
> >
> > Not true.  Pine doesn't, for example.  It begins a reply with the
> > cursor at the very top of the message body.
> >
> >> Top posting came along when MS/Windows came on the market with
> their
> >> own email clients: Outlook express which is the email client
> built

[...]

> > Please provide a cite/ref to the "Unix email format" as something
> more
> > concrete than your personal definition.  And more concrete than
> RFC
> > 1855, whose second sentence reads: "This memo does not specify an
> > Internet standard of any kind."
>
> So your a hard core purest on the other side of the coin. You can
> nit pick about wording all you want. It still does not detract from
> the fact that there is an 'FIX' to change the behavior of MS/windows
> top posting. As always, the reader has the chose in how they want to
> reply to posts on this list, top or bottom posting.

I apologize in advance if I jump in in what might sound like a
knit-picking manner.  However, if this "fix" produces messages like the
one above, where all the usual mutilation of Outlook regarding quoting
and wrapping the text is clearly visible...

it's not a fix :-(

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Re: error during "make buildkernel" in 5.2.1

2004-08-10 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 5:15 PM -0700 8/10/04, Mike wrote:
Greetings:
This is my first foray into 5.2.1.  I installed and ran cvsup
(standard and for ports).  I went to build the kernel and and
"make buildkernel" died.  Here is the error message.  Any
comments or hints would be helpful.
Did you just install 5.2.1 from the CD?  Or are you trying to
upgrade some older release to 5.2.1 via cvsup?  What lines were
in the cvsup control file that you used?
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Clothing

2004-08-10 Thread Jacob Jennings
Do you have any hoodies featuring the BSD daemon? If
not, are there any plans to manufacture them in the future?



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anyone have Samba3 and KDE on same 4.10 box ?

2004-08-10 Thread Peter Ryan
Hi,

Do you have Samba3 and KDE on the same 4.10 Box ?

How did you manage to install Samba3 ?

I get version conflicts with openldap.
KDE is using 2.1.30 and Samba 3 wants 2.2.xx

I cant seem to delete KDE cleanly, and I
cant delete openldap.

I think I am back to reinstalling from scrach
again, but now I am worried where I get a KDE
using the 2.2 version of openldap.

Any pointers welcomed with much relief.
Peter
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error during "make buildkernel" in 5.2.1

2004-08-10 Thread Mike
Greetings:
This is my first foray into 5.2.1.  I installed and ran cvsup (standard 
and for ports).  I went to build the kernel and and "make buildkernel" 
died.  Here is the error message.  Any comments or hints would be helpful.

# make buildkernel KERNEL=TRITON
/usr/src/sys/modules/agp/../../pci/agp_nvidia.c: In function 
`agp_nvidia_attach':
/usr/src/sys/modules/agp/../../pci/agp_nvidia.c:27: error: insn does not 
satisfy its constraints:
(insn 702 701 1789 34 ./agp_if.h:23 (set (reg:SI 0 ax)
(plus:SI (plus:SI (reg/v:SI 0 ax [orig:197  ] [197])
(mem:SI (plus:SI (reg/f:SI 6 bp)
(const_int -36 [0xffdc])) [0 
apbase+0 S4 A8]))
(const_int -1 [0x]))) 134 {*lea_1} 
(insn_list 694 (nil))
(nil))
/usr/src/sys/modules/agp/../../pci/agp_nvidia.c:27: internal compiler 
error: in reload_cse_simplify_operands, at postreload.c:378
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/agp.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TRITON.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
Thanks,
Michael
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Re: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread David Kelly
On Aug 10, 2004, at 4:58 PM, Kevin Stevens wrote:
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, JJB wrote:
The fact of life is all the Unix mail clients adhere to the Unix
email format of posting the reply to the bottom of the email while
indenting with a quote character.
Not true.  Pine doesn't, for example.  It begins a reply with the 
cursor
at the very top of the message body.
"Cursor at the top on reply" is correct. Its correct because that is 
where one should start *editing*, is very rarely where one should start 
*typing*. Blaming the situation on Microsoft is too simplistic.

The #1 problem I have with top-posters is that they fail to read the 
entire message they are re-sending. Had they bothered to read the whole 
thing they would have deleted the illegible bulk. But then again if 
they would actually read their own message in its entirety they'd know 
it was a mess with everything out of order and badly formatted and 
learn to properly trim and reply with inserted comments.

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Re: wedged

2004-08-10 Thread Ryan
Read /usr/src/UPDATING
For Proper Use Of Recompiling System

Also
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Kline" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:52 PM
Subject: wedged


>
> People,
>
> This morning I cvsup's the -current src for my laptop.
> When I try to "config GENERIC", eithr directly or by typing
> make buildkernel, I get an error from /usr/sbin/config
> that it is not in sync with the kernel.  I think it
> complains that it is 500012 where I need 500013.
>
> I tried cd'ing to /usr/sbin/config and doing a make
> install clean.  Stumbled into a lex error and the build
> quits.  Any thoughts on what to try next??  I'm
> doing a buildworld just in case buildkernel reaches into
> soome newly build binary.  Otherwise, could somebody
> with a working config -CURRENT binary email it my way.
>
> (I'm not sure what the lex error is or why is halts
> the build; possibly the makefile/*mk stuff is set up
> to die at any err.)
>
> Ideas, guys?  and, tia, of course,
>
> gary
>
>
>
> -- 
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Unix
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Re: Outbound SMTP filtering

2004-08-10 Thread draconius
You dont need to add signatures with clamav...thats what crontab is for!
I have my mailserver scanning all inbound and outbound messages for spam 
and viruses, and I don't allow outbound spam/viruses, and filter all 
incoming spam into a spam folder for each user, and delete mail with 
viruses and banned filenamesso I think if you were looking for a 
good way to go, clam antivirus and spamassassin, running with postfix, 
qmail, or gasp possibly sendmail if you really wanted to go that route

Cheers
Nick Rogness wrote:
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Warren Block wrote:
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Nick Rogness wrote:
I am looking for an Outbound SMTP filtering solution to prevent SPAM 
and Virii from being sent through our SMTP relay machine (FreeBSD 
running sendmail).

A plugin module for sendmail or maybe some external appliance?  Just 
outbound SMTP traffic only.  Any suggestions?

greylist-milter and clamav-milter are doing well for me.  They both 
scan outbound mail, although I'm not sure if it's possible to set 
clamav-milter to scan only outbound mail.

I guess I'm looking for more of a commercial solution.  That is, I
don't want to have to perform a lot of administration of adding
filters and virus signatures constantly.
Maybe I need to look more at a commerical appliance?  Anyone have
any recommendations?  I just want a Outbound solution!
Nick Rogness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread David Kelly
On Aug 10, 2004, at 5:20 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
It would actually be much nicer if people would return to literacy
standards that existed, not only in the computer world, before
Microsoft came along.  I've long given up actively trying to help
people write literate mail.  I just ignore their messages.  That's not
helpful either, except to me.
I got fed up with the top posters on other lists expecting ME to help 
THEM in spite of blatantly ignoring my instructions on how to properly 
reply. So I use the following .signature which accurately and briefly 
states my position. I won't "honor" them with a reply, however the door 
is wide open if I believe they need a bit of "dishonoring."

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wedged

2004-08-10 Thread Gary Kline

People,

This morning I cvsup's the -current src for my laptop.
When I try to "config GENERIC", eithr directly or by typing
make buildkernel, I get an error from /usr/sbin/config 
that it is not in sync with the kernel.  I think it
complains that it is 500012 where I need 500013.

I tried cd'ing to /usr/sbin/config and doing a make
install clean.  Stumbled into a lex error and the build
quits.  Any thoughts on what to try next??  I'm
doing a buildworld just in case buildkernel reaches into
soome newly build binary.  Otherwise, could somebody 
with a working config -CURRENT binary email it my way.

(I'm not sure what the lex error is or why is halts 
the build; possibly the makefile/*mk stuff is set up
to die at any err.)

Ideas, guys?  and, tia, of course,

gary



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Re: Porting new Software into FreeBSD

2004-08-10 Thread Bill Moran
"Alex B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello everybody:
> 
> I'm almost done writing a new software for FreeBSD. The only thing is that i 
> have not yet found a way to port it into FreeBSD ports. Can any body tell me 
> how its done. Are there any documentation on how to do this?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/index.html

> The new software is called RURS (Remote Unix Recovery Service). Simply said, 
> it is the same as WINDOWS Gost utility.

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Graphical Problem FX5500

2004-08-10 Thread emre kurt
I have a Nvidia Geforce FX5500 graphics card and
xf86config 
program gives error everytime.And also i cant use
graphical config tool 
because i see black screen. How can i configure my
graphical 
environment ? Thanks for your interests




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Re: Outbound SMTP filtering

2004-08-10 Thread Nick Rogness
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Warren Block wrote:
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Nick Rogness wrote:
I am looking for an Outbound SMTP filtering solution to prevent SPAM 
and Virii from being sent through our SMTP relay machine (FreeBSD 
running sendmail).

A plugin module for sendmail or maybe some external appliance?  Just 
outbound SMTP traffic only.  Any suggestions?
greylist-milter and clamav-milter are doing well for me.  They both scan 
outbound mail, although I'm not sure if it's possible to set 
clamav-milter to scan only outbound mail.
I guess I'm looking for more of a commercial solution.  That is, I
don't want to have to perform a lot of administration of adding
filters and virus signatures constantly.
Maybe I need to look more at a commerical appliance?  Anyone have
any recommendations?  I just want a Outbound solution!
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Porting new Software into FreeBSD

2004-08-10 Thread Alex B
Hello everybody:
I'm almost done writing a new software for FreeBSD. The only thing is that i 
have not yet found a way to port it into FreeBSD ports. Can any body tell me 
how its done. Are there any documentation on how to do this?

The new software is called RURS (Remote Unix Recovery Service). Simply said, 
it is the same as WINDOWS Gost utility.

Thank you
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php5 & libgd

2004-08-10 Thread Marc Cabanatuan
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ive grabbed php5 and attempted to grab phpMyAdmin from ports and in
doing so (php5 works fine) I receive the error 'Unknown extension gd.'
I recently discoevered that php was split from the core and its
extensions, however in enabling 'gd' in php5-extensions, i still
receive the same error.
% make install clean
Unknown extension gd.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions.
Is gd located in ports? What is the recommended way of grabbing libgd
and installing it? pkg_add? Any help with this would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks,
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RE: 5.2.1-p9 kernel hang (unknown reason, but more info)

2004-08-10 Thread Dave Stephens
I know this may seem a silly suggestion after all the info you've dug up, 
but it almost sounds like a bad power supply.  I've seen virtually identical 
problems with my old dual P2/333 box and it turned out to be the AT 
Motherboard power connectors from the power supply that were screwed up and 
making a flakey connection.

http://life.trollserver.com/image/dsc00332.jpg - very burnt AT connector
http://life.trollserver.com/image/dsc00333.jpg - visible scarring on the 
motherboard itself

The electrical engineer explanation is:  The power connector was making a 
crappy connection on one or more of the 5v lines, the others carried the 
load.  Burning caused by the excessive current caused other 5v lines to fail 
and the load on the remaining got higher still...  Queue the cascade effect 
to utter failure (and nearly a fire.)  After getting the power connectors 
replaced on the power supply and polishing the motherboard pins it worked 
well for a while and then started acting like your descriptions.  The 
eventual solution (keep in mind this was an old AT board and that this 
solution is not recommended for the hardware you/the data center have) was 
to cut the power connectors off completely and solder them directly to the 
motherboard.  no more flakey power issues.  :)

dave
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(note: I'm not subscribed to the list with this email, but I couldn't send 
this large mail by my webmail)

Hey list,
Recently my server started failing daily, I though it was because of high 
loads. Now it even goes down if completely idle after a few hours.

I *still* don't have the panic message (lazy datacenter lol) but I booted 
the server with verbose enabled and got the list of hardware. I also removed 
any optimizations in sysctl stuff I had added (maxfiles, maxprocs, ipc 
stuff, etc, all defaults now)

The server ran fine for the first 20 days or so, then it kept dying on a 
daily basis. Unfortunately i still don't have the panic message. But if 
someone can give some hints based on hardware list+dmesg+mptable, it would 
help. I've been shooting in the dark so far..

Here is the dmesg (long):
Frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
Calibrating TSC clock ... TSC clock: 2800121436 Hz
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2800.12-MHz 686-class CPU)
 Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf25  Stepping = 5
 
Features=0xbfebfbff
 Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
real memory  = 4088397824 (3899 MB)
Physical memory chunk(s):
0x1000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages)
0x0010 - 0x003f, 3145728 bytes (768 pages)
0x00c29000 - 0xef64, 4003622912 bytes (977447 pages)
avail memory = 3973623808 (3789 MB)
APIC ID: physical 0, logical 0:0
APIC ID: physical 1, logical 0:1
APIC ID: physical 6, logical 0:2
APIC ID: physical 7, logical 0:3
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00fdb70
bios32: Entry = 0xfdb80 (c00fdb80)  Rev = 0  Len = 1
pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xf+0xdba1
pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00f4420
pnpbios: Entry = f:32c4  Rev = 1.0
Other BIOS signatures found:
ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
ioapic0: intpin 0 -> ExtINT (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 1 -> irq 1 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 2 -> irq 2 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 3 -> irq 3 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 4 -> irq 4 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 5 -> irq 5 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 6 -> irq 6 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 7 -> irq 7 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 8 -> irq 8 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 9 -> irq 9 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 10 -> irq 10 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 11 -> irq 11 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 12 -> irq 12 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 13 -> irq 13 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 14 -> irq 14 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 15 -> irq 15 (edge, activehi)
ioapic1: Assuming intbase of 16
ioapic1: intpin 0 -> irq 16 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 1 -> irq 17 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 2 -> irq 18 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 3 -> irq 19 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 4 -> irq 20 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 5 -> irq 21 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 6 -> irq 22 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 7 -> irq 23 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 8 -> irq 24 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 9 -> irq 25 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 10 -> irq 26 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 11 -> irq 27 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 12 -> irq 28 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 13 -> irq 29 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 14 -> irq 30 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 15 -> irq 31 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: Assuming intbase of 32
ioapic2: intpin 0 -> irq 32 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 1 -> irq 33 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 2 -> irq 34 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 3 -> irq 35 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 4 -> 

Re: Outbound SMTP filtering

2004-08-10 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Nick Rogness wrote:
I am looking for an Outbound SMTP filtering solution to prevent SPAM and 
Virii from being sent through our SMTP relay machine (FreeBSD running 
sendmail).

A plugin module for sendmail or maybe some external appliance?  Just outbound 
SMTP traffic only.  Any suggestions?
greylist-milter and clamav-milter are doing well for me.  They both scan 
outbound mail, although I'm not sure if it's possible to set 
clamav-milter to scan only outbound mail.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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RE: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread Kevin Stevens
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, JJB wrote:

> So your a hard core purest on the other side of the coin.

You know absolutely nothing about my position on this subject other than
what you infer from the formatting of the posts I've made.  The fact that
I reject specious argument from incorrect facts is irrelevant to how I
feel about top posting.

> You can nit pick about wording all you want. It still does not detract
> from the fact that there is an 'FIX' to change the behavior of
> MS/windows top posting. As always, the reader has the chose in how they
> want to reply to posts on this list, top or bottom posting.

Or whether to use a spell/grammar checker, of course.  Might as well
switch fires.

KeS
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Re: order of starting services at boot?

2004-08-10 Thread James Skinner
Yeah. I guess that ipfw isn't started like that. Durr. I didn't reallt read
the original post.

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> In the last episode (Aug 10), Duane Winner said:
> > Can anybody explain to me how FreeBSD 5.2.1 controls the start order
> > of the scripts in /etc/rc.d ?
> >
> > I've looked all over and am having trouble gleening what controls this.
>
> The rc manpage explains rc.d/ and the magic keywords used inside its
> scripts.
>
> > For instance, if I would like to start ipfw before dhclient (right
> > now dhclient starts, then ipfw starts), how would I accomplish this?
>
> Add "ipfw" to dhclient's REQUIRE line.  This change was made to
> -current, so when 5.3 ships it'll already do what you want :)
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Re: burncd: ioctl(CDIOCSTART): Device busy

2004-08-10 Thread Iain Dooley
More of a question, really.  Why are you using 'fstat -n'?  The -n option 
would appear to print only device numbers, not device names - therefore 
grepping for 'acd' will be fruitless, correct?.
okay, so fstat | grep cd doesn't reveal anything either.
cheers
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hi there, i'm running freebsd 4.10 with a kodak CR-R drive.
i can mount CD-ROM's in the drive with no problems, but when i insert a
blank CD-R (cdr not cdrw... i checked!!) into the drive and attempt burncd
i get the error
burncd: ioctl(CDIOCSTART): Device busy
i tried "fstat -n | grep acd" but no programs appear to be using the
drive. the light on the CD drive keeps blinking orange too, indicating
that it is trying to read the drive or something similar, but i have not
issued any 'mount /cdrom' command.
i found a similar problem in the lists archive posted by a guy named
willian denton last year, but couldn't find any resolution to the problem.
i emailed him to find out if he ever solved his problem but have not yet
received a reply. [actually, i have now received a reply... he said he never 
solved the problem, he just bought a new drive. my drive works fine in other 
machines, and i can mount CD-ROM's with it, so i don't think it is broken]

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2003-October/004262.html
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Re: order of starting services at boot?

2004-08-10 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Aug 10), Duane Winner said:
> Can anybody explain to me how FreeBSD 5.2.1 controls the start order
> of the scripts in /etc/rc.d ?
> 
> I've looked all over and am having trouble gleening what controls this.

The rc manpage explains rc.d/ and the magic keywords used inside its
scripts.
 
> For instance, if I would like to start ipfw before dhclient (right
> now dhclient starts, then ipfw starts), how would I accomplish this?

Add "ipfw" to dhclient's REQUIRE line.  This change was made to
-current, so when 5.3 ships it'll already do what you want :)

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Re: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread Chris
Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On Tuesday, August 10, 2004 05:45:58 PM -0400 JJB 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Over the years I have seen many posts on this list where Unix hard
liners complain about people posting their replies to the top of the
email messages on this list.
The fact of life is all the Unix mail clients adhere to the Unix
email format of posting the reply to the bottom of the email while
indenting with a quote character.
Not true.  Pine doesn't.  Mulberry doesn't.  I don't believe Evolution 
does.  I'm pretty sure the Firefox solution (don't recall the name) 
doesn't.
Thunderbird gives you the option
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Re: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
Here's a good reason to top-post: I'm referring to the message as a
whole, rather than to the content.

This message came in while I was writing my previous message in this
thread.  It shows *exactly* the points I was referring to.  Yes, the
reply is posted at the bottom, but the quoted text is mutilated beyond
what anybody could have believed 20 years ago.  Your reply appears to
refer to the last paragraph only (I suppose; I can't read the
message), but you've (mis)quoted it in its entirety.

A question to you: do you like the appearance of this message?  Or do
you do it because it's too difficult to write a tidy reply?  I suspect
the latter, and that's the point I'm trying to make.  I do
occasionally have to use "Outlook", and I find it incredibly painful
to use.

On Tuesday, 10 August 2004 at 18:14:41 -0400, JJB wrote:
> Kevin Stevens wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, JJB wrote:
>>
>>> The fact of life is all the Unix mail clients adhere to the Unix
>>> email format of posting the reply to the bottom of the email
> while
>>> indenting with a quote character.
>>
>> Not true.  Pine doesn't, for example.  It begins a reply with the
>> cursor at the very top of the message body.
>>
>>> Top posting came along when MS/Windows came on the market with
> their
>>> own email clients: Outlook express which is the email client
> built
>>> into Internet explorer and the MS/Office Outlook email client.
>>
>> Not true.  See above.
>>
>>> There is a little known fix for MS/Outlook express and MS/Office
>>> Outlook email clients that change the behavior of these
> MS/Windows
>>> email clients so they adhere to the Unix email format of posting
> the
>>> reply to the bottom of the email while indenting with a quote
>>> character.
>>
>> "Fix" is a loaded term which presumes that something is broken.
>>
>>> To all you Unix hard liners, Please instead of complaining to the
>>> top posters, it would be so much nicer if you just informed the
>>
>> It would actually be much nicer if they'd just quit trying to
> enforce
>> their preferences on others.
>>
>>> MS/Windows top poster of the above links so they know about the
>>> solution to fix their email clients to adhere to the Unix email
>>> format used on this list.
>>
>> Please provide a cite/ref to the "Unix email format" as something
> more
>> concrete than your personal definition.  And more concrete than
> RFC
>> 1855, whose second sentence reads: "This memo does not specify an
>> Internet standard of any kind."
>>
>> KeS
>
> So your a hard core purest on the other side of the coin. You can
> nit pick about wording all you want. It still does not detract from
> the fact that there is an 'FIX' to change the behavior of MS/windows
> top posting. As always, the reader has the chose in how they want to
> reply to posts on this list, top or bottom posting.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread Gary
Hi Paul,
--On Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:13 PM -0500 Paul Schmehl 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

But I'm trying to think why someone would be posting to a freebsd list
from a Windows box
Because some of us are working in part on building / servicing a 
predominantly Windows network during the day, while reading mail on my 
FreeBSD mail/
DNS/IMAPS server as is the case now 

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Re: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Tuesday, 10 August 2004 at 14:58:02 -0700, Kevin Stevens wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, JJB wrote:
>
>> The fact of life is all the Unix mail clients adhere to the Unix
>> email format of posting the reply to the bottom of the email while
>> indenting with a quote character.
>
> Not true.  Pine doesn't, for example.  It begins a reply with the cursor
> at the very top of the message body.

In fact, the entire concept is flawed.  You should be able to write
text anywhere you want in a reply.  Even most Microsoft-oriented MUAs
allow that.

>> There is a little known fix for MS/Outlook express and MS/Office
>> Outlook email clients that change the behavior of these MS/Windows
>> email clients so they adhere to the Unix email format of posting the
>> reply to the bottom of the email while indenting with a quote
>> character.

Yes, I refer to it at http://www.lemis.com/email/fixing-outlook.html.
Unfortunately, it doesn't address the basic problems with "Outlook".

> "Fix" is a loaded term which presumes that something is broken.

I think that "Outlook" is broken.  Putting the text in the right
relative place doesn't help much if it's so difficult to write
well-formatted messages that most people don't bother.  What any good
MUA needs is a text editor (or, preferably, an interface to one) that
makes it easy to send well-formatted messages.

>> To all you Unix hard liners, Please instead of complaining to the
>> top posters, it would be so much nicer if you just informed the
>> [truncated by sender]
>
> It would actually be much nicer if they'd just quit trying to
> enforce their preferences on others.

It would actually be much nicer if people would return to literacy
standards that existed, not only in the computer world, before
Microsoft came along.  I've long given up actively trying to help
people write literate mail.  I just ignore their messages.  That's not
helpful either, except to me.

>> MS/Windows top poster of the above links so they know about the
>> solution to fix their email clients to adhere to the Unix email
>> format used on this list.
>
> Please provide a cite/ref to the "Unix email format" as something
> more concrete than your personal definition.  And more concrete than
> RFC 1855, whose second sentence reads: "This memo does not specify
> an Internet standard of any kind."

RFC 1055 is a good start.  What matter is that the second sentence
states (obviously incorrectly for an RFC)?  It seems that you'd reject
anything which isn't concrete enough for your own way of thinking.
Certainly I don't think of a "Unix email format" (or even a "UNIX
email format"); I just like to be able to read messages which don't
make themselves painful to read, that don't contain lots of irrelevant
junk, and that don't give me the impression that the sender is only
semi-literate.  For more details, you might like to take a look at
http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html, though I suppose you'll
find a reason to reject it.

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Re: does a working driver exist for the nForce2 MCP nic?

2004-08-10 Thread stheg olloydson

it was said:
> >>
> >>Out of general principle, I would like to get the
> >>onboard NIC working on an MSI K7N2 Delta-L mobo. I
> >>have checked the archives and googled this issue.
> I
> >>found A LOT of discussion. To sum up, Bill Paul
> was
> >>trying to get nVidia to cooperate, but they were
> >>having none of it. According to
> >>http://www.onthenet.com.au/~q/nvnet/ a driver is
> >>available via ports/net/nvnet, but my fresh
> install of
> >>5.2.1-Release doesn't have that port. I can pull
> it
> >>from the site, but before I needlessly mung my
> system,
> >>does anyone know if it works? If it was in ports
> >>before, why is it gone now?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >You need up update your port tree.
> >  
> >
> 
> Seems likely.  Although the port was added in
> December
> and tagged in both 4.10-RELEASE and HEAD at that
> time,
> it must not have MFC'ed->RELENG_5 until after 5.2.1
> was
> released (in January, IIRC), therefore a CDROM ports
> tree
> of 5.2.1 wouldn't include nvnet.
> 
> It is there now.  I don't know if it works.  Grit
> your teeth and
> hang on!  (Seriously, I really doubt it'd be in
> there if there were
> any serious problems at all, but YMMV)
> 
> Kevin Kinsey
> 

Hello,

Thanks for the reply. I thought this might be the
case. Just making sure my belt and braces (or
suspenders as the case may be) are tight.

Regards,

Stheg



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RE: Problem: ipf - /dev/kmem errors

2004-08-10 Thread Dave Patterson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I'm currently using a generic pc running, that is acting as a
> router.
>> The routing works fine, but ipfilter does not.
>> Pentium III (801.82-MHz 686-class CPU)
>> memory  = (128 MB)
>>
>> 5.2-CURRENT #1
>>
>> here is part of my kernel config file :
>>> --snip--<
>> # IPF stuff
>> options PFIL_HOOKS  # pfil(9) framework
>> options IPFILTER
>> options IPFILTER_LOG
>> options INVARIANTS  #Enable calls of extra
> sanity
>> checking
>>> --snip--<
>>
>> the kernel seems to load the module {from dmesg}
>> IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized.  Default = pass all, Logging =
> enabled
>>
>> yet when I try and verify which rulesets are loaded, I get kmem
>> errors.
>>
>> # ipfstat
>> ioctl(SIOCGETFS): Invalid argument
>> openkmem:open: No such file or directory
>>
>>
>>
>> I did read that in 5.x /dev/kmem was changed/removed for security,
> if
>> thats the case what is the facility that ipfilter uses ?
>>
>> thanks for any help,
>> D
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> Just because you compiled ipfilter into the kernel does not mean
> that you have enabled it to start.
>
> You need the follow statements in /etc/rc.conf to activate IPF at
> boot time.
>
> ipfilter_enable="YES" # Start ipf firewall
> ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf.rules"   # loads rules definition text file
>   # IE: not script file with rules
> in it
>
> ipmon_enable="YES"# Start IP monitor log
> ipmon_flags="-Ds" # D = start as daemon
>   # s = log to syslog
>   # v = log tcp window, ack, seq
>   # n = map IP & port to names
>
>
>
> If you have a LAN behind this firewall that uses the reserved
> private IP address ranges, then you need to add the following to
> enable NAT functionality.
>
> gateway_enable="YES"  # Enable as LAN gateway
> ipnat_enable="YES"# Start ipnat function
> ipnat_rules="/etc/ipnat.rules"# rules definition file for ipnat
>
Thanks for the reminder, I neglected to include that in my original email.
 I do have the above mentioned options in my /etc/rc.conf:
# -- ipf stuff --
ipfilter_enable="YES"
ipfilter_program="/sbin/ipf"
ipfilter_rules="/etc/ipf/ipf.conf"
ipnat_enable="YES"
ipnat_program="/sbin/ipnat"
ipnat_rules="/etc/ipf/ipnat.conf"
ipmon_enable="YES"
ipmon_program="/sbin/ipmon"
ipmon_flags="-Ds"   # typically "-Ds" or "-D /var/log/ipflog"
# -- end ipf stuff --

I also checked the kernel to see which modules where loaded currently :
# kldstat -v
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 1   11 0xc040 2f65bc   kernel
Contains modules:
Id Name
 1 IP Filter: v3.4.35
 2 isa/ata
 
 ...
Im still getting same kmem error tho,

# ipfstat
ioctl(SIOCGETFS): Invalid argument
openkmem:open: No such file or directory

any Idea why I don't have the device /dev/kmem ?
# ls /dev/k*
/dev/kbd0@ /dev/klog

thanks again,
-D


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Re: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Tuesday, August 10, 2004 05:45:58 PM -0400 JJB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Over the years I have seen many posts on this list where Unix hard
liners complain about people posting their replies to the top of the
email messages on this list.
The fact of life is all the Unix mail clients adhere to the Unix
email format of posting the reply to the bottom of the email while
indenting with a quote character.
Not true.  Pine doesn't.  Mulberry doesn't.  I don't believe Evolution 
does.  I'm pretty sure the Firefox solution (don't recall the name) doesn't.

But I'm trying to think why someone would be posting to a freebsd list from 
a Windows box

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RE: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread JJB
Kevin Stevens wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, JJB wrote:
>
>> The fact of life is all the Unix mail clients adhere to the Unix
>> email format of posting the reply to the bottom of the email
while
>> indenting with a quote character.
>
> Not true.  Pine doesn't, for example.  It begins a reply with the
> cursor at the very top of the message body.
>
>> Top posting came along when MS/Windows came on the market with
their
>> own email clients: Outlook express which is the email client
built
>> into Internet explorer and the MS/Office Outlook email client.
>
> Not true.  See above.
>
>> There is a little known fix for MS/Outlook express and MS/Office
>> Outlook email clients that change the behavior of these
MS/Windows
>> email clients so they adhere to the Unix email format of posting
the
>> reply to the bottom of the email while indenting with a quote
>> character.
>
> "Fix" is a loaded term which presumes that something is broken.
>
>> To all you Unix hard liners, Please instead of complaining to the
>> top posters, it would be so much nicer if you just informed the
>
> It would actually be much nicer if they'd just quit trying to
enforce
> their preferences on others.
>
>> MS/Windows top poster of the above links so they know about the
>> solution to fix their email clients to adhere to the Unix email
>> format used on this list.
>
> Please provide a cite/ref to the "Unix email format" as something
more
> concrete than your personal definition.  And more concrete than
RFC
> 1855, whose second sentence reads: "This memo does not specify an
> Internet standard of any kind."
>
> KeS

So your a hard core purest on the other side of the coin. You can
nit pick about wording all you want. It still does not detract from
the fact that there is an 'FIX' to change the behavior of MS/windows
top posting. As always, the reader has the chose in how they want to
reply to posts on this list, top or bottom posting.






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Re: localtime question

2004-08-10 Thread Mipam
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

> On 2004-08-10 18:45, Mipam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > #include 
> > #include 
> >
> > int main(void)
> > {
> > struct timeval tv;
> > struct timeval tv_current;
> > if (gettimeofday(&tv_current, NULL) == -1)
> >err(1, "Could not get local time of day");
> > tv.tv_sec = tv_current.tv_sec-86400;
> > printf("%s\n", ctime(&tv.tv_sec));
> > return 0;
> > }
> 
> Hmmm, now that I noticed.  You don't need to add a trailing '\n' to the
> string of ctime().  It already has one:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:11]/home/keramida$ ./a.out
> Mon Aug  9 20:11:30 2004
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:11]/home/keramida$

Thanks, for the help, i'll remove the \n and get on the sorting part now 
:-)
Bye,

Mipam.
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Re: Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread Kevin Stevens
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, JJB wrote:

> The fact of life is all the Unix mail clients adhere to the Unix
> email format of posting the reply to the bottom of the email while
> indenting with a quote character.

Not true.  Pine doesn't, for example.  It begins a reply with the cursor
at the very top of the message body.

> Top posting came along when MS/Windows came on the market with their
> own email clients: Outlook express which is the email client built
> into Internet explorer and the MS/Office Outlook email client.

Not true.  See above.

> There is a little known fix for MS/Outlook express and MS/Office
> Outlook email clients that change the behavior of these MS/Windows
> email clients so they adhere to the Unix email format of posting the
> reply to the bottom of the email while indenting with a quote
> character.

"Fix" is a loaded term which presumes that something is broken.

> To all you Unix hard liners, Please instead of complaining to the
> top posters, it would be so much nicer if you just informed the

It would actually be much nicer if they'd just quit trying to enforce
their preferences on others.

> MS/Windows top poster of the above links so they know about the
> solution to fix their email clients to adhere to the Unix email
> format used on this list.

Please provide a cite/ref to the "Unix email format" as something more
concrete than your personal definition.  And more concrete than RFC 1855,
whose second sentence reads: "This memo does not specify an Internet
standard of any kind."

KeS
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RE: Error With Kernel Module IPFILTER

2004-08-10 Thread JJB
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> I've found out from two different kernel configs
> that after properly compling kernel with  IPFILTER support
> it causes the system not to boot. Its hard to say, what exactly it
> does, cause its not a local system.
>
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You should look at your kernel source because you removed or added
something more that the statements to enable ipfilter and that is
what is causing your problem.

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Top posting solution

2004-08-10 Thread JJB
Over the years I have seen many posts on this list where Unix hard
liners complain about people posting their replies to the top of the
email messages on this list.

The fact of life is all the Unix mail clients adhere to the Unix
email format of posting the reply to the bottom of the email while
indenting with a quote character.

Top posting came along when MS/Windows came on the market with their
own email clients: Outlook express which is the email client built
into Internet explorer and the MS/Office Outlook email client.

There is a little known fix for MS/Outlook express and MS/Office
Outlook email clients that change the behavior of these MS/Windows
email clients so they adhere to the Unix email format of posting the
reply to the bottom of the email while indenting with a quote
character.

Information and fix download can be found at these URLs.

 MS/Outlook express
http://home.cs.tum.edu/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

 MS/Office Outlook
http://home.cs.tum.edu/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/

To all you Unix hard liners, Please instead of complaining to the
top posters, it would be so much nicer if you just informed the
MS/Windows top poster of the above links so they know about the
solution to fix their email clients to adhere to the Unix email
format used on this list.

Thanks for you attention

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Re: Replacing Bind8x with Bind9

2004-08-10 Thread Joshua Lewis
   BIND 9 requires a good source of randomness to operate.
   It also requires configuration of rndc, including a
   "secret" key.  If you are using FreeBSD 4.x, visit
   http://people.freebsd.org/~dougb/randomness.html for
   information on how to set up entropy gathering. Users
   of FreeBSD 5.x do not need to perform this step. If
   you are running BIND 9 in a chroot environment, make
   sure that there is a /dev/random device in the chroot.

   The easiest, and most secure way to configure rndc is
   to run 'rndc-confgen -a' which will generate the proper
   conf file, with a new random key, and appropriate file
   permissions.


I guess I really need a bind9 on FreeBSD doc. That can answer all my
questions. I can't find anything that suites my needs on ISC.ORG. Has
anyone come across a well written bind9 doc?

I purchased the Complete FreeBSD book and several others they however
don't cover Bind9 nor does the handbook. I bought the BIND9 and DNS from
Oriley however that will be a few more weeks of reading. I am in need to
get BIND, POSTFIX, MySQL , APACHE, installed quickly. Any sources of well
written docs are welcome.

Thank you,
Joshua Lewis



uidzero I > Joshua Lewis wrote:
>
>>I received this error when running your instructions.
>>
>>apollo# make PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9=yes install clean
>>Dependency warning: used OpenSSL version contains known vulnerabilities
>>Please update or define either WITH_OPENSSL_BASE or WITH_OPENSSL_PORT
>>*** Error code 1
>>
>>I understand that it says a dependancy a problem. But I just ran cvsup no
>>more then an hour ago. Is there something I am missing?
>>
>>Thanks for any help
>>
>>
>>Thank you,
>>Joshua Lewis
>>
>>
>>
>>Michael Sharp
>>
>>
>>>read the /usr/ports/dns/bind9 Makefile and use the
>>>'PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9'
>>>option to make.
>>>
>>>make PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9=yes install clean
>>>
>>>In rc.conf
>>>--
>>>named_enable="YES"
>>>named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named"
>>>named_flags="-c /usr/local/etc/namedb/named.conf -u bind"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>and you can also put NO_BIND= true in /etc/make.conf so that base BIND
>>>isn't build when you make world.
>>>
>>>Definetly consider chrooting or jailing BIND
>>>
>>>Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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> make PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9=yes WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes install clean
>
> Michael
>
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Re: order of starting services at boot?

2004-08-10 Thread James Skinner
Just number them like so:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ls -l /usr/local/etc/rc.d/
total 32
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   248 Oct  6  2003 010.pkgtools.sh
-rwxr-x--x  1 root  wheel   391 Jan 28  2004 020.xinetd.sh
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1720 May 31 10:17 030.svscan.sh
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   646 Jul  3 12:03 040.apache.sh
-rwxr-x---  1 root  wheel   549 Apr 17 11:23 050.mysql-server.sh
-rwxr-x---  1 root  wheel   181 Apr 17 11:55 055.mysql-client.sh
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel   756 Jun 29 14:26 060.snmpd.sh
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel44 May 31 14:46
075.courier-imap-imapd-ssl.sh ->
/usr/local/libexec/courier-imap/imapd-ssl.rc
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel40 May 31 14:59 080.courier-imap-imapd.sh ->
/usr/local/libexec/courier-imap/imapd.rc
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1853 May 28 12:29 100.squid.sh

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- Original Message - 
From: "Duane Winner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:09 PM
Subject: order of starting services at boot?


> Hello,
>
> Can anybody explain to me how FreeBSD 5.2.1 controls the start order of
> the scripts in /etc/rc.d ?
>
> I've looked all over and am having trouble gleening what controls this.
>
> For instance, if I would like to start ipfw before dhclient (right now
> dhclient starts, then ipfw starts), how would I accomplish this?
>
> Thanks,
> Duane
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Re: Replacing Bind8x with Bind9

2004-08-10 Thread uidzero
Joshua Lewis wrote:
I received this error when running your instructions.
apollo# make PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9=yes install clean
Dependency warning: used OpenSSL version contains known vulnerabilities
Please update or define either WITH_OPENSSL_BASE or WITH_OPENSSL_PORT
*** Error code 1
I understand that it says a dependancy a problem. But I just ran cvsup no
more then an hour ago. Is there something I am missing?
Thanks for any help
Thank you,
Joshua Lewis

Michael Sharp
 

read the /usr/ports/dns/bind9 Makefile and use the
'PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9'
option to make.
make PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9=yes install clean
In rc.conf
--
named_enable="YES"
named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named"
named_flags="-c /usr/local/etc/namedb/named.conf -u bind"

and you can also put NO_BIND= true in /etc/make.conf so that base BIND
isn't build when you make world.
Definetly consider chrooting or jailing BIND
Michael
   

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make PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9=yes WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes install clean
Michael 

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Error With Kernel Module IPFILTER

2004-08-10 Thread Ryan
I've found out from two different kernel configs
that after properly compling kernel with  IPFILTER support
it causes the system not to boot. Its hard to say, what exactly it does, cause its not 
a local system.

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order of starting services at boot?

2004-08-10 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
Can anybody explain to me how FreeBSD 5.2.1 controls the start order of 
the scripts in /etc/rc.d ?

I've looked all over and am having trouble gleening what controls this.
For instance, if I would like to start ipfw before dhclient (right now 
dhclient starts, then ipfw starts), how would I accomplish this?

Thanks,
Duane
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re: Replacing Bind8x with Bind9

2004-08-10 Thread Joshua Lewis
I received this error when running your instructions.

apollo# make PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9=yes install clean
Dependency warning: used OpenSSL version contains known vulnerabilities
Please update or define either WITH_OPENSSL_BASE or WITH_OPENSSL_PORT
*** Error code 1

I understand that it says a dependancy a problem. But I just ran cvsup no
more then an hour ago. Is there something I am missing?

Thanks for any help


Thank you,
Joshua Lewis



Michael Sharp
> read the /usr/ports/dns/bind9 Makefile and use the
> 'PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9'
> option to make.
>
> make PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9=yes install clean
>
> In rc.conf
> --
> named_enable="YES"
> named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named"
> named_flags="-c /usr/local/etc/namedb/named.conf -u bind"
>
>
>
> and you can also put NO_BIND= true in /etc/make.conf so that base BIND
> isn't build when you make world.
>
> Definetly consider chrooting or jailing BIND
>
> Michael
>
>

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re: Replacing Bind8x with Bind9

2004-08-10 Thread Joshua Lewis
> Definetly consider chrooting or jailing BIND

Would you be able to point me at a doc that explains what jailing and or
chrooting a program does. Something that shows how and when it is used. I
have seen specific examples for individual programs. However I would like
to learn how and why it works and understand how to do it for all of my
programs. Especially what the difference is between jailing and chrooting


Thank you,
Joshua Lewis



Michael Sharp
> read the /usr/ports/dns/bind9 Makefile and use the
> 'PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9'
> option to make.
>
> make PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9=yes install clean
>
> In rc.conf
> --
> named_enable="YES"
> named_program="/usr/local/sbin/named"
> named_flags="-c /usr/local/etc/namedb/named.conf -u bind"
>
>
>
> and you can also put NO_BIND= true in /etc/make.conf so that base BIND
> isn't build when you make world.
>
> Definetly consider chrooting or jailing BIND
>
> Michael
>
>

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Re: ports, mailman and mail-gid.

2004-08-10 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Tuesday, August 10, 2004 03:20:10 PM -0400 Graham Dunn 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you're using portupgrade, edit /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf to
include
  MAKE_ARGS = {
  'mail/mailman*' => 'MAIL_GID=mailman'
  }
OK, great.  Thanks for that.
But here's what I don't understand.  If you run make options in the port, 
you get --with-mail-gid=foo.  So why is it MAIL_GID=foo in the 
pkgtools.conf file?  Is this in the handbook somewhere?  Or in the man 
pages?  Cause obviously I'm confused about how you determine the precise 
syntax so this actually works.

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Problem: ipf - /dev/kmem errors

2004-08-10 Thread Dave Patterson
Hello everyone,

I'm currently using a generic pc running, that is acting as a router. The
routing works fine, but ipfilter does not.
Pentium III (801.82-MHz 686-class CPU)
memory  = (128 MB)

5.2-CURRENT #1

here is part of my kernel config file :
>--snip--<
# IPF stuff
options PFIL_HOOKS  # pfil(9) framework
options IPFILTER
options IPFILTER_LOG
options INVARIANTS  #Enable calls of extra sanity
checking
>--snip--<

the kernel seems to load the module {from dmesg}
IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized.  Default = pass all, Logging = enabled

yet when I try and verify which rulesets are loaded, I get kmem errors.

# ipfstat
ioctl(SIOCGETFS): Invalid argument
openkmem:open: No such file or directory



I did read that in 5.x /dev/kmem was changed/removed for security, if
thats the case what is the facility that ipfilter uses ?

thanks for any help,
D
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Re: Monitor Resolution???

2004-08-10 Thread Glyn Tebbutt
On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 20:27, Hakim Z. Singhji wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I have a question that may be trivial to most however, I don't seem to know how to 
> modify my monitor resolution. I am using FreeBSD without X windows install.  Text 
> only and the font and overall resolution is 'HUGE'.  I recently installed 4.10 (last 
> night) but I don't know where I went wrong with this? Thanks in advance for your 
> help.
> 
> HZS
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Hi There

http://mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/vidctrl.html

has some info on the subject i have tired myself on 5.2 -CURRENT but i
kept making
the system panic

Enjoy

Glyn


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Re: linking

2004-08-10 Thread Mark
Thanks for the help.

now for a buildworld. 

On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 02:37:10PM -0400, Gary Mulder wrote:
> 
> >
> >Say you want to move /usr/local to live in /muz, where you have scads of
> >space.   Do the following.
> >  (I have my own naming convention that helps me keep track of things
> >   you can name things as you like - but try to be mnemonic).
> 
> or alternatively do (and preferably from single user mode, with a "mount 
> -a" to mount all of the fs):
> 
> cd /usr
> tar cf - ./local | (cd /muz; tar xf -)
> find ./local -type f -exec cksum {} \; > /var/tmp/cksums_usr
> cd /muz
> find ./local -type f -exec cksum {} \; > /var/tmp/cksums_muz
> diff /var/tmp/cksums_*
> 
> (the cksum output files should be identical...)
> 
> rm -r /usr/local
> ln -s /muz/local /usr/local
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
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Re: Monitor Resolution???

2004-08-10 Thread Hakim Z. Singhji
Thanks Matthew... once again :)

Cheers

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Subject: Re: Monitor Resolution???

On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 03:27:35PM -0400, Hakim Z. Singhji wrote:

> I have a question that may be trivial to most however, I don't seem to know how to 
> modify my monitor resolution. I am using FreeBSD without X windows install.  Text 
> only and the font and overall resolution is 'HUGE'.  I recently installed 4.10 (last 
> night) but I don't know where I went wrong with this? Thanks in advance for your 
> help.

vidcontrol(1)

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Monitor Resolution???

2004-08-10 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 03:27:35PM -0400, Hakim Z. Singhji wrote:

> I have a question that may be trivial to most however, I don't seem to know how to 
> modify my monitor resolution. I am using FreeBSD without X windows install.  Text 
> only and the font and overall resolution is 'HUGE'.  I recently installed 4.10 (last 
> night) but I don't know where I went wrong with this? Thanks in advance for your 
> help.

vidcontrol(1)

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Outbound SMTP filtering

2004-08-10 Thread Dancho Penev
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 05:49:27PM -0600, Nick Rogness wrote:
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 17:49:27 -0600 (MDT)
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Subject: Outbound SMTP filtering
I am looking for an Outbound SMTP filtering solution to prevent SPAM and 
Virii from being sent through our SMTP relay machine (FreeBSD running 
sendmail).

A plugin module for sendmail or maybe some external appliance?  Just 
outbound SMTP traffic only.  Any suggestions?
You may try mail/smtp-vilter.
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Monitor Resolution???

2004-08-10 Thread Hakim Z. Singhji
Hello All,

I have a question that may be trivial to most however, I don't seem to know how to 
modify my monitor resolution. I am using FreeBSD without X windows install.  Text only 
and the font and overall resolution is 'HUGE'.  I recently installed 4.10 (last night) 
but I don't know where I went wrong with this? Thanks in advance for your help.

HZS
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Re: ports, mailman and mail-gid.

2004-08-10 Thread Julien Gabel
>>> I'm trying to get the mailman port installed with mail-gid=mailman
>>> (because I'm running Postfix), but I'm having zero success.

>> If you don't use postfix virtual and aliases files, the group needs to
>> be 'nobody'.

> But I *do* use virtual and aliases files.  The group needs to be mailman.

Ok.

>> I usually use:
>>  # portinstall -rR -m'MAIL_GID=nobody' mailman

> Hmmm..I've been using % make install clean to install the ports and
> portupgrade to upgrade them.

Ok, so have you tried:
 # make MAIL_GID=nobody install clean

The "-m" option to portupgrade/portinstall is just what will be passed
to make as argument(s).

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Re: i think i've broken portinstall

2004-08-10 Thread Vince Hoffman


On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Matthew Seaman wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 01:16:40PM +0100, Vince Hoffman wrote:
> > I just went to install netcat and portinstal seems to have broken, not
> > sure when or how though.
> >
> > the process i use (as normal)
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [/root] [12:30]
> > #cd /usr/ports/net/netcat/
> >
> > 
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [/usr/ports/net/netcat] [12:30]
> > #portinstall netcat
> > ** No such installed package nor such port called 'netcat' is found.
> >
> > fair enough this happens sometimes. so...
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [/usr/ports/net/netcat] [12:30]
> > #portinstall net/netcat
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [/usr/ports/net/netcat] [12:30]
> > #
> >
> > ok i dont understand what happened here.
> > I have a cron job update my ports tree by cvsup every night then run a
> > portsdb -Uu after each update, a manual portsdb -Uu gives me
> >
> > a bunch of errors from MailScanner and others (dependency list incomplete
> > errors so not too big a deal.)
> > but also lots (more than a couple of screenfuls) of lines like this
> >
> > /usr/ports/INDEX-5:10775:Port info line must consist of 10 fields.
> > /usr/ports/INDEX-5:10776:Port info line must consist of 10 fields.
> > /usr/ports/INDEX-5:10777:Port info line must consist of 10 fields.
> > /usr/ports/INDEX-5:10778:Port info line must consist of 10 fields.
> > /usr/ports/INDEX-5:10779:Port info line must consist of 10 fields.
> >
> > should i just blow away my ports tree and re-CVSUP the whole thing ?
>
> Do you have an up to date version of portupgrade ? Latest is:
>
> % pkg_info -I portupgrade\*
> portupgrade-20040701_3 FreeBSD ports/packages administration and management tool 
> s
>
> And you should have a similar recent version of the Makefiles under
> /usr/ports/Mk: specifically, you should have bsd.port.subdir.mk v 1.55
>
> Looks like your portupgrade and the ports Makefiles are out of synch
> with respect to the change in the format of the INDEX{,-5} files that
> happened recently.  That means the number of fields in the INDEX went
> from 10 to 13.
>
>   Cheers,
>
>   Matthew

Doh, that would be the problem then, I thought i'd updated it but that
must have been on my laptop.
Many thanks,
Vince

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Re: ports, mailman and mail-gid.

2004-08-10 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Tuesday, August 10, 2004 08:36:18 PM +0200 Julien Gabel 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm trying to get the mailman port installed with mail-gid=mailman
(because I'm running Postfix), but I'm having zero success.
If you don't use postfix virtual and aliases files, the group needs to
be 'nobody'.
But I *do* use virtual and aliases files.  The group needs to be mailman.
I usually use:
 # portinstall -rR -m'MAIL_GID=nobody' mailman
Hmmm..I've been using % make install clean to install the ports and 
portupgrade to upgrade them.

Read the following for more details:
 /usr/local/share/doc/mailman/FreeBSD-post-install-notes
I'll read it again.
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Re: ports, mailman and mail-gid

2004-08-10 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Tuesday, August 10, 2004 01:29:52 PM -0500 uidzero 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Paul Schmehl wrote:
cd  /usr/ports/mail/mailman
vi Makefile
MAIL_GID?=  mailnull
change to
MAIL_GID?=  mailman
"Makefile" line 68 of 157 --43%-- col 16-21
This isn't what I'm looking for.  (I've already done this.)  What I'm 
looking for is the answer to the question, "How do you do port installs 
correctly when you need to include make options?"

I know how to skirt the system.  I want to know how to *use* the system the 
correct way.  I have this silly idea that the ports maintainers and the 
guys that write the code for FBSD might actually know a little more than I, 
and perhaps I should use the system the way they've designed it.

Silly me.
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Re: linking

2004-08-10 Thread Gary Mulder

Say you want to move /usr/local to live in /muz, where you have scads of
space.   Do the following.
  (I have my own naming convention that helps me keep track of things
   you can name things as you like - but try to be mnemonic).
or alternatively do (and preferably from single user mode, with a "mount 
-a" to mount all of the fs):

cd /usr
tar cf - ./local | (cd /muz; tar xf -)
find ./local -type f -exec cksum {} \; > /var/tmp/cksums_usr
cd /muz
find ./local -type f -exec cksum {} \; > /var/tmp/cksums_muz
diff /var/tmp/cksums_*
(the cksum output files should be identical...)
rm -r /usr/local
ln -s /muz/local /usr/local
Gary

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Re: ports, mailman and mail-gid.

2004-08-10 Thread Julien Gabel
> I'm trying to get the mailman port installed with mail-gid=mailman
> (because I'm running Postfix), but I'm having zero success.

If you don't use postfix virtual and aliases files, the group needs to
be 'nobody'.

> I've tried make --with-mail-gid=mailman, --DWITH-MAIL-GID=mailman,
> -DWITH_MAIL-GID=mailman and several other combinations of the above. No
> matter what I do, the damn thing makes with mail-gid=mailnull.

I usually use:
 # portinstall -rR -m'MAIL_GID=nobody' mailman

Read the following for more details:
 /usr/local/share/doc/mailman/FreeBSD-post-install-notes

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Re: ports, mailman and mail-gid

2004-08-10 Thread uidzero
Paul Schmehl wrote:
I'm trying to get the mailman port installed with mail-gid=mailman 
(because I'm running Postfix), but I'm having zero success.

I've tried make --with-mail-gid=mailman, --DWITH-MAIL-GID=mailman, 
-DWITH_MAIL-GID=mailman and several other combinations of the above.  
No matter what I do, the damn thing makes with mail-gid=mailnull.

What am I doing wrong?  And how can I know how to do make options on 
ports? (For example, snort won't work unless I use -DWITH_FOO, but 
other ports seem to want --WITH_WHATEVER.

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cd  /usr/ports/mail/mailman
vi Makefile
MAIL_GID?=  mailnull
change to
MAIL_GID?=  mailman
"Makefile" line 68 of 157 --43%-- col 16-21
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Re: How Did You Create /usr/bin/[shell]

2004-08-10 Thread Ryan
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Hello All,

I wanted to know if people did things differently from how I set up certain
packages.  You see I left all my packages in the ports folder and created
soft-links in '/etc' for instance or '/usr/bin/'.

Did any of you do this differently, I haven't experienced any problems
however I was wondering is there a better way.  Thanks in advance!!!



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ports, mailman and mail-gid

2004-08-10 Thread Paul Schmehl
I'm trying to get the mailman port installed with mail-gid=mailman (because 
I'm running Postfix), but I'm having zero success.

I've tried make --with-mail-gid=mailman, --DWITH-MAIL-GID=mailman, 
-DWITH_MAIL-GID=mailman and several other combinations of the above.  No 
matter what I do, the damn thing makes with mail-gid=mailnull.

What am I doing wrong?  And how can I know how to do make options on ports? 
(For example, snort won't work unless I use -DWITH_FOO, but other ports 
seem to want --WITH_WHATEVER.

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Re: How Did You Create /usr/bin/[shell]

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Hello All,

I wanted to know if people did things differently from how I set up certain
packages.  You see I left all my packages in the ports folder and created
soft-links in '/etc' for instance or '/usr/bin/'.

Did any of you do this differently, I haven't experienced any problems
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How Did You Create /usr/bin/[shell]

2004-08-10 Thread Hakim Singhji
Hello All,

I wanted to know if people did things differently from how I set up certain
packages.  You see I left all my packages in the ports folder and created
soft-links in '/etc' for instance or '/usr/bin/'.

Did any of you do this differently, I haven't experienced any problems
however I was wondering is there a better way.  Thanks in advance!!!





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Re: linking

2004-08-10 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> My /usr has grown short of room, so noobie question, will " ln -s /muz/newusr /usr" 
> allow the system to use the new space or must I do something else?? This is a 5.2rc1 
> box in need of updating. =) 

Well, yes, sort of.  It won't just add the space to the current space.
You would have to move the current /usr filesystem over to that
filesystem and then make a link to it.  Then the new space would
replace the previous space as where /usr lives.

Possibly a better way to deal with it is to pull out a couple of the
larger directory trees in /usr and move them to the new space and
link them.   Some good candidates might be /usr/local, /usr/src and/or
 /usr/ports.  If you have put users home directories in there, in 
someplace such as /usr/home, then that might also be a good one to move.

You can check space usage for directory trees with  du(1)
  cd /usr
  du -sk *

Say you want to move /usr/local to live in /muz, where you have scads of
space.   Do the following.
  (I have my own naming convention that helps me keep track of things
   you can name things as you like - but try to be mnemonic).

  cd /usr/local
  tar cvf /muz/local.tar
  cd /muz
  mkdir usr.local
  cd usr.local
  tar xvf ../local.tar
  cd /usr
  mv local local.old
  ln -s /muz/usr.local local
Now go check and make sure you got things right - do   cd /usr/local
and look around and make sure stuff is there.   a pwd should show
you to be in /muz/usr.local when you to cd /usr/local. 
Then clean up.
  cd /usr/local
  pwd (just to check and be sure it is /muz/usr.local)
  rm local.tar
  cd /usr
  rm -rf local.old
voila, you just freed up the /usr/local space from /usr and put it in /muz

Do the same for /usr/ports and whatever else makes sense.

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How Did You Create /usr/bin/[shell]

2004-08-10 Thread Hakim Singhji
Hello All,

I wanted to know if people did things differently from how I set up certain packages.  
You see I left all my packages in the ports folder and created soft-links in '/etc' 
for instance or '/usr/bin/'.

Did any of you do this differently, I haven't experienced any problems however I was 
wondering is there a better way.  Thanks in advance!!!




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5.2.1-p9 kernel hang (unknown reason, but more info)

2004-08-10 Thread Hugo Silva
(note: I'm not subscribed to the list with this email, but I couldn't 
send this large mail by my webmail)

Hey list,
Recently my server started failing daily, I though it was because of 
high loads. Now it even goes down if completely idle after a few hours.

I *still* don't have the panic message (lazy datacenter lol) but I 
booted the server with verbose enabled and got the list of hardware. I 
also removed any optimizations in sysctl stuff I had added (maxfiles, 
maxprocs, ipc stuff, etc, all defaults now)

The server ran fine for the first 20 days or so, then it kept dying on a 
daily basis. Unfortunately i still don't have the panic message. But if 
someone can give some hints based on hardware list+dmesg+mptable, it 
would help. I've been shooting in the dark so far..

Here is the dmesg (long):
Frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
Calibrating TSC clock ... TSC clock: 2800121436 Hz
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2800.12-MHz 686-class CPU)
 Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf25  Stepping = 5
 
Features=0xbfebfbff
 Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
real memory  = 4088397824 (3899 MB)
Physical memory chunk(s):
0x1000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages)
0x0010 - 0x003f, 3145728 bytes (768 pages)
0x00c29000 - 0xef64, 4003622912 bytes (977447 pages)
avail memory = 3973623808 (3789 MB)
APIC ID: physical 0, logical 0:0
APIC ID: physical 1, logical 0:1
APIC ID: physical 6, logical 0:2
APIC ID: physical 7, logical 0:3
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00fdb70
bios32: Entry = 0xfdb80 (c00fdb80)  Rev = 0  Len = 1
pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xf+0xdba1
pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00f4420
pnpbios: Entry = f:32c4  Rev = 1.0
Other BIOS signatures found:
ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0
ioapic0: intpin 0 -> ExtINT (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 1 -> irq 1 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 2 -> irq 2 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 3 -> irq 3 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 4 -> irq 4 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 5 -> irq 5 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 6 -> irq 6 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 7 -> irq 7 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 8 -> irq 8 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 9 -> irq 9 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 10 -> irq 10 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 11 -> irq 11 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 12 -> irq 12 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 13 -> irq 13 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 14 -> irq 14 (edge, activehi)
ioapic0: intpin 15 -> irq 15 (edge, activehi)
ioapic1: Assuming intbase of 16
ioapic1: intpin 0 -> irq 16 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 1 -> irq 17 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 2 -> irq 18 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 3 -> irq 19 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 4 -> irq 20 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 5 -> irq 21 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 6 -> irq 22 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 7 -> irq 23 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 8 -> irq 24 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 9 -> irq 25 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 10 -> irq 26 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 11 -> irq 27 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 12 -> irq 28 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 13 -> irq 29 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 14 -> irq 30 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 15 -> irq 31 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: Assuming intbase of 32
ioapic2: intpin 0 -> irq 32 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 1 -> irq 33 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 2 -> irq 34 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 3 -> irq 35 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 4 -> irq 36 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 5 -> irq 37 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 6 -> irq 38 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 7 -> irq 39 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 8 -> irq 40 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 9 -> irq 41 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 10 -> irq 42 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 11 -> irq 43 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 12 -> irq 44 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 13 -> irq 45 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 14 -> irq 46 (level, activelo)
ioapic2: intpin 15 -> irq 47 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: Assuming intbase of 48
ioapic3: intpin 0 -> irq 48 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 1 -> irq 49 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 2 -> irq 50 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 3 -> irq 51 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 4 -> irq 52 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 5 -> irq 53 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 6 -> irq 54 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 7 -> irq 55 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 8 -> irq 56 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 9 -> irq 57 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 10 -> irq 58 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 11 -> irq 59 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 12 -> irq 60 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 13 -> irq 61 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 14 -> irq 62 (level, activelo)
ioapic3: intpin 15 -> irq 63 (level, activelo)
ioapic1: intpin 13 

Re: localtime question

2004-08-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-08-10 18:45, Mipam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #include 
> #include 
>
> int main(void)
> {
> struct timeval tv;
> struct timeval tv_current;
> if (gettimeofday(&tv_current, NULL) == -1)
>err(1, "Could not get local time of day");
> tv.tv_sec = tv_current.tv_sec-86400;
> printf("%s\n", ctime(&tv.tv_sec));
> return 0;
> }

Hmmm, now that I noticed.  You don't need to add a trailing '\n' to the
string of ctime().  It already has one:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:11]/home/keramida$ ./a.out
Mon Aug  9 20:11:30 2004

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:11]/home/keramida$

Bye

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Re: localtime question

2004-08-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-08-10 18:45, Mipam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Try calling ctime() with the address of tv.tv_sec:
> >
> > printf("%s\n", ctime(&tv.tv_sec));
>
> #include 
> #include 
>
> int main(void)
> {
> struct timeval tv;
> struct timeval tv_current;
> if (gettimeofday(&tv_current, NULL) == -1)
>err(1, "Could not get local time of day");
> tv.tv_sec = tv_current.tv_sec-86400;
> printf("%s\n", ctime(&tv.tv_sec));
> return 0;
> }
>
> Does the job, thanks!
> At compile time i get:
>
> tijd.c: In function `main':
> tijd.c:11: warning: passing arg 1 of `ctime' from incompatible pointer type

That's because struct timeval's members are `long' not time_t.

printf("%s\n", ctime((const time_t *) &tv.tv_sec));

Add  to your includes too and sort them in this order:

#include 
#include 
#include 

System headers first, the rest afterwards; each list sorted
alphabetically unless there is a good reason to do otherwise.

This becomes handy when there are long lists of headers as it's easy to
spot and fix duplicate includes :-)

> Only thing left is another format like: 2004 Aug  9 18:44:04
> Any hints?

You'd have to use strftime() and a local buffer for that.

Cheers

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Re: localtime question

2004-08-10 Thread Mipam
> Note that it's a good idea to explicitly specify that main() does
> nothing to its argument with:
> 
> int
> main(void)
> {
> ...
> }
> 
> and that main() has to `return' some value that fits in an `int' as its
> definition says it should.
> 
> > But at compilation it complains:
> >
> > tijd.c: In function `main':
> > tijd.c:15: warning: passing arg 1 of `ctime' makes pointer from integer without a 
> > cast
> >
> > What am i doing wrong?
> 
> You're passing the "value" of tv.tv_sec in a function that expects a
> pointer to it.
> 
> % man ctime
> 
>  char *
>  ctime(const time_t *clock);
> 
> The value you passed to ctime() is not an address of a constant time_t
> object but the value of the time_t object itself.  The compiler detects
> that a conversion from an integral type to a pointer needs to take place
> and warns you about it.
> 
> This is not a fatal error (c.f. the rationale of the ANSI C99 standard,
> which specifies that pointers might be converted to integral values and
> back to the same pointer type without losing any information).  However,
> it is usually a very common mistake (forgetting to pass a reference to
> the object and passing the object itself).  This is why you get warned.
> 
> Try calling ctime() with the address of tv.tv_sec:
> 
> printf("%s\n", ctime(&tv.tv_sec));

#include 
#include 

int main(void)
{
struct timeval tv;
struct timeval tv_current;
if (gettimeofday(&tv_current, NULL) == -1)
   err(1, "Could not get local time of day");
tv.tv_sec = tv_current.tv_sec-86400;
printf("%s\n", ctime(&tv.tv_sec));
return 0;
}

Does the job, thanks!
At compile time i get:

tijd.c: In function `main':
tijd.c:11: warning: passing arg 1 of `ctime' from incompatible pointer 
type

But it works:
Mon Aug  9 18:44:04 2004
nicely the time of yesterday.
Only thing left is another format like: 2004 Aug  9 18:44:04
Any hints?
Bye,

Mipam.
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RE: 5. boot freebsd in verbose mode - question

2004-08-10 Thread JJB
ee loader.conf  # Edit file
Add this line to file
boot_verbose="YES" # The word "YES" is in upper case letters.
Save your file & reboot


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hugo Silva
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 5. boot freebsd in verbose mode - question

Hi,

Is there a way to turn this option on while the system is running,
or make
it the default option on the next reboot?

Regards



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ps/2 mouse not detected when no keyboard is present

2004-08-10 Thread Olivier SMEDTS

Hello all,

Here is my problem. I've got a fanless computer with a FreeBSD 5.2.1
embedded in a CompactFlash card. On this appliance, I must plug a PS/2
mouse but NO keyboard. When I boot the appliance with a keyboard and a
mouse, no problem, atkbdc0 is detected, with atkbd0 and psm0 on it. The
problem is that when I boot with no keyboard, the controller (atkbdc0)
isn't detected any more, so the mouse (psm0) isn't detected ; dmesg
doesn't show atkbdc, atkbd or psm.

Does anyone know what can I do ? I must be able to boot with a mouse but
no keyboard. I tried setting different flags for atkbd0 in device.hints.
Maybe there's a way with the kernel, sysctl or device.hints, or
something else, to have an atkbd0 "detected" even with no keyboard
plugged in. Or to force the detection of the controller atkbdc0, on
which is the mouse.

Thanks for any answer, I really need help, I didn't find something
similar on google and I don't know what to do for now. I think it's a
problem with the way   atkbdc works so I didn't included a specific
dmesg, but if you want more info, dont't hesistate to ask.

Olivier
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5. boot freebsd in verbose mode - question

2004-08-10 Thread Hugo Silva
Hi,

Is there a way to turn this option on while the system is running, or make
it the default option on the next reboot?

Regards



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Re: localtime question

2004-08-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-08-10 16:49, Mipam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried to display the time from yesterday by this little program
>
> #include 
> #include 
>
> time_t tval;
>
> int main()
> {
> struct timeval tv;
> struct timeval tv_current;
>
> if (gettimeofday(&tv_current, NULL) == -1)
> err(1, "Could not get local time of day");
>
> tv.tv_sec = tv_current.tv_sec-86400;
> printf("%s\n", ctime(tv.tv_sec));
> }

Note that it's a good idea to explicitly specify that main() does
nothing to its argument with:

int
main(void)
{
...
}

and that main() has to `return' some value that fits in an `int' as its
definition says it should.

> But at compilation it complains:
>
> tijd.c: In function `main':
> tijd.c:15: warning: passing arg 1 of `ctime' makes pointer from integer without a 
> cast
>
> What am i doing wrong?

You're passing the "value" of tv.tv_sec in a function that expects a
pointer to it.

% man ctime

 char *
 ctime(const time_t *clock);

The value you passed to ctime() is not an address of a constant time_t
object but the value of the time_t object itself.  The compiler detects
that a conversion from an integral type to a pointer needs to take place
and warns you about it.

This is not a fatal error (c.f. the rationale of the ANSI C99 standard,
which specifies that pointers might be converted to integral values and
back to the same pointer type without losing any information).  However,
it is usually a very common mistake (forgetting to pass a reference to
the object and passing the object itself).  This is why you get warned.

Try calling ctime() with the address of tv.tv_sec:

printf("%s\n", ctime(&tv.tv_sec));

- Giorgos

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Re: Replacing Bind8x with Bind9

2004-08-10 Thread Paul Mather
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 22:36:54 -0700, "Joshua Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> How to I totaly replace Bind8x on my 5.2.1 system?

I run BIND 9 chroot on a 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 system.  I installed it from
ports (/usr/ports/dns/bind9).

Basically, to replace the base BIND 8 installation, you need to append
the following to your /etc/make.conf:

 PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9=YES
 NO_BIND=true

Then, cd to /usr/ports/dns/bind9 and do a "make install clean" to
install it.  The  PORT_REPLACES_BASE_BIND9 will cause the port
installation to overwrite the base version.  The NO_BIND will prevent
your ports version being overwritten when you next build and install
world.

I don't believe the chroot startup support in /etc/rc.d/named for 5.2.1
works for BIND 9, as it's designed for BIND 8.  Setting up chroot for
BIND 9 is a little more involved (from what I recall) than for BIND 8. 
I do believe there is a small tutorial out there somewhere.  (I ran
across one when I was setting up my BIND 9.)

Of course, you will also need to configure BIND 9.  It is stricter than
BIND 8, and will fail to startup on certain configuration errors that
once were treated as warnings.

> Is there a command to run to replace bind8 durring install?

I don't believe there is.

> Do I need to make changes to my startup files?

Yes---depending on whether you are running chroot or not.  You may also
need to mount a devfs via /etc/fstab to get certain required devices
like /dev/random (again, if you're running chroot).

BIND 9 will be the default in 5.3, due out in early October.

Cheers,

Paul.
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"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
 deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
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Re: "make/install buildworld" without Perl being reinstalled?

2004-08-10 Thread Ryan
Hello, :)

Please check out
/etc/defaults/make.conf
For examples.

Below can be used in /etc/make.conf to prevent building of programs
in a build/install world.

# To avoid building various parts of the base system:
#NO_CVS=true# do not build CVS
#NO_BIND=   true# do not build BIND
#NO_FORTRAN=true# do not build g77 and related libraries
#NO_I4B=true# do not build isdn4bsd package
#NO_IPFILTER=   true# do not build IP Filter package
#NO_LPR=true# do not build lpr and related programs
#NO_MAILWRAPPER=true# do not build the mailwrapper(8) MTA selector
#NO_MODULES=true# do not build modules with the kernel
#NO_OBJC=   true# do not build Objective C support
#NO_OPENSSH=true# do not build OpenSSH
#NO_OPENSSL=true# do not build OpenSSL (implies NO_OPENSSH)
#NO_SENDMAIL=   true# do not build sendmail and related programs
#NO_SHAREDOCS=  true# do not build the 4.4BSD legacy docs
#NO_TCSH=   true# do not build and install /bin/csh (which is tcsh)
#NO_X=  true# do not compile in XWindows support (e.g. doscmd)
#NOCRYPT=   true# do not build any crypto code
#NOGAMES=   true# do not build games (games/ subdir)
#NOINFO=true# do not make or install info files
#NOLIBC_R=  true# do not build libc_r (re-entrant version of libc)
#NOMAN= true# do not build manual pages
#NOPERL=true# do not build perl. Disables OpenSSL optimizations
#NOPROFILE= true# Avoid compiling profiled libraries
#NOSECURE=  true# do not build crypto code in secure/ subdir
#NOSHARE=   true# do not go into the share subdir
#NOUUCP=true# do not build uucp related programs

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

Also make sure to checkout the file /usr/src/UPDATING
for changes and proper methods to recompiling everything or upgrading.



Ryan,

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From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: "make/install buildworld" without Perl being reinstalled?


> Dear Sirs:
>
> Is there a way I can do a "make/install buildworld" without Perl being
> reinstalled? Not that I want it gone, I just want it to remain totally
> untouched.
>
> I think I am going to give an upgrade to 8.10R a try (reluctantly), from
> 4.9R; but I cannot afford to have my rather comprehensive Perl modules
> messed with/deleted/upgraded/whatever. In fact, I rather not do a
> "make/install buildworld" at all. That is, I rather not have any userland
> program touched, like sendmail, etc. Basically, I just want to upgrade the
> kernel (and use the upgraded ata(4) driver, to have support for the VIA
> 8237).
>
> I came up with the following supfile:
>
> *default host=cvsup.uk.freebsd.org
> *default base=/usr
> *default prefix=/usr
> *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_10
> *default delete use-rel-suffix
> *default compress
> src-all
>
> Will this do what I want?
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Mark
>
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