Re: Java5 and FreeBSD

2004-10-01 Thread Dick Davies
* Adam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1005 02:05]:
> On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 01:46:51AM +0100, Dick Davies said:
> > * De Savant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1038 01:38]:
> > > I was looking around with this latest announcement of Sun's Java2 1.5, 
> > > since I was considering using FreeBSD on our server (amd64) instead of 
> > > Linux. I made my way to Sun's java page, and then to the newest Java2 
> > > Enterprise Edition 1.4 release. Yet no FreeBSD Java?
> > 
> > Sun have never released any VM for FreeBSD. The linux one will probably work
> > out of the box under the Linuxulator.
> 
> Don't they suck? :)

Well of course they do - they're Java VMs.
But they're no slower than a native one, and have the advantage of *existing* :)

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Re: Are there step-by-step VMWare instructions? (giving up)

2004-10-01 Thread Gary
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 11:09:15PM -0400 or thereabouts, bsdfsse wrote:
> 
> I give up on trying to get VMWare 3.2 to work on either FreeBSD 4.x or 
> 5.x.  Thank you to everyone who tried to help me.  After 5 full days of 
> trial and error on 3 machines, I think I can say it needs to be looked 
> at by a non-newby.

Just saw this.. There is a new kid on the block called. Serenity Virtual
Station, very similar to VMWare, but they have just released a version
specifically for FreeBSD.. This is beta software, (not free), and although
I have not tried it with FreeBSD yet (all my FreeBSD boxes currently are
servers), I have it running on one Linux box... it works   Perhaps this
might be an alternative for you. 

http://www.serenityvirtual.com/  for general info

and here for FreeBSD specific info

http://tinyurl.com/5as7a

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Re: about ports reinstall

2004-10-01 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Lila wrote:
Hi,
The php4 ports that I installed did not work with mysql,
it seems like it never able to configure to work with mysql.
No mysql info can be found with phpinfo().
I tried to reinstall php4 many times but no luck for me.
I want to ask is there a way to completely remove the
installed ports and related deps so that I can do a very
clean install of php4 and maybe with apache and mysql.
Thanks!
Regards,

$cd /usr/ports/lang/php4
$make deinstall clean
But ... I never saw that you posted with a problem.  There
have been a few changes lately that required some slightly
different installation methods ... perhaps you missed something?
Kevin Kinsey
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Re: NDIS problem on FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE (I think)....

2004-10-01 Thread Eric Schuele
Disregard my post/thread.

Found a typo in my /etc/dhclient.conf.  Fixed it problem went away.

thx

On Wednesday 29 September 2004 10:53 pm, Eric Schuele wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm not sure who to go to with this.  I managed to get everything
> installed the way I like it on my Dell laptop... including the
> miniPCI WLAN adapter using the NDIS wrapper for Windows Drivers.
>
> It appears to work flawlessly when I am within range of a WAP... but
> when I am at the office (where there are none)...  I occasionally get
> completely locked up.  If I leave it locked up for a minute or so, it
> dies and reboots itself. I might think it is my wired interface
> except I can run on it all night at home (WAP is present).  Guess I
> could try disabling my WAP at home and run wired.  But its a bit
> random so I could be like that for hours at home.
>
> It generally happens 2-3 times in an 8 hour period.  Saw it happen
> once when I manually ran dhclient.  If I manually unload the NDIS 
> modules after booting up... It never happens.  So I suspect the NDIS
> wrapper.
>
> I realize the work may not be completed on these wrappers... but
> though maybe if I could let the appropriate folks know... maybe they
> could fix it before it becomes a real problem.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
> Eric
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Re: Are there step-by-step VMWare instructions? (giving up)

2004-10-01 Thread bsdfsse
I give up on trying to get VMWare 3.2 to work on either FreeBSD 4.x or 
5.x.  Thank you to everyone who tried to help me.  After 5 full days of 
trial and error on 3 machines, I think I can say it needs to be looked 
at by a non-newby.

The only time I got it to run was with a 5.2-Release installation with 
networking disabled (following Christian's docs).  Every other 
configuration resulted in losing access to the hard-drive as soon as I 
hit the VM's "Power On" button.

I might try again if there is a known working solution, but for now I 
have to do a 6-week project on native Winblows.

I learned a ton, and wouldn't use any other OS on a server.  I hope to 
run it on my desktop soon.

thx.
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Re: NDISulator (aka. Project Evil) wmp54gs w. bcm4306

2004-10-01 Thread Eric Schuele
On Friday 01 October 2004 03:46 pm, K. Greenwood wrote:
> Quick question.  Where do queries regarding Bill
> Paul's NDISulator go?  I have seen some to current,
> hardware, mobile.
>
> Or even better, a howto (the best I have seen thus far
> is:)
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-January/01948
>6.html

  Google:
FreeBSD NDIS
  You'll get some good returns.

  Here are the two best 'HowTo's' I've found:
  http://tweakbsd.homeunix.org/guides/windoof-ndis-drivers.php
  http://www.xl0.org/FreeBSD/ndis.txt

  Here is my HowTo:  (i.e. that which worked for me, constructed from 
the sites referenced above)
===
wLAN (TrueMobile 1300)
===
  Download and build NDIS wrapper for Windows wLAN drivers
# cd /usr
# cvs -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/ncvs co src/sys/
modules/ndis src/sys/modules/if_ndis src/usr.sbin/ndiscvt src/sys/
compat/ndis src/sys/dev/if_ndis
# cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/ndiscvt/ && make && make install
# cd /usr/src/sys/modules/ndis && make && make install
# make load
# cd /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis
# cp /path/to/windows_driver.sys
# cp /path/to/windows_driver.inf
# rename old /usr/src/sys/dev/pccard/pccarddevs.h 
# ndiscvt -i windows_driver.inf -s windows_driver.sys -o 
pccarddevs.h
# ndiscvt -i windows_driver.inf -s windows_driver.sys -o 
ndis_driver_data.h
# make install
# re-rename old /usr/src/sys/dev/pccard/pccarddevs.h (needed for 
future kernel builds)

NOTE: It appears that if you later rebuild your kernel...
  you must _rebuild_ the above as well. Maybe just re-install?

  Add to /etc/rc.conf
ifconfig_ndis0="DHCP"
hostname="yourhostname"

  Add to /boot/loader.conf
ndis_load="YES"
if_ndis_load="YES"

  Edit /etc/dhclient.conf
timeout 10;
retry 10;
reboot 10;
select-timeout 5;
initial-interval 2;

interface "ndis0" {
  send dhcp-client-identifier "unx.unxlaptop.org";
  media "ssid Your_SSID channel 1 wepmode on wepkey 
0x57065YourWepKey753B5;
  request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, routers, 
domain-name-servers, domain-n;

}


HTH

>
>
>
>
>
> The following is extraneous info, if someone here can
> clue me in.
>
> I have a PCI Linksys WMP54GS (pciconf -vl as follows):
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:8:0  class=0x028000 card=0x00151737
> chip=0x432014e4 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
>
> vendor  =  'Broadcom Corporation'
> device  =  'BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller'
> class   =  network
>
>
> FreeBSD type (uname -a) as follows:
>
> FreeBSD workstation.domain.org 5.3-BETA6 FreeBSD
> 5.3BETA6 #0: Sat Sep 25 19:41:14 UTC 2004
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> i386
>
>
> The only device that I can find that looks like it is
> listed as
>
> pci0:  at device 8.0 (no driver attached)
>
>
> I copied over the win32exe from the linksys site, used
> a windows system and got the required files
> (BCMWL5.inf & bcmwl5.sys).  Address follows.
>
> http://www.linksys.com/download/driver.asp?dlid=132&osid=6
>
> And attempted the following, as per Mr. Paul's
> message.
>
> # cp foo.sys foo.inf /sys/modules/if_ndis
> # cd /sys/modules/ndis
> # make; make load
> # cd /sys/modules/if_ndis
> # ndiscvt -i foo.inf -s foo.sys -o ndis_driver_data.h
> # make; make load
>
> When I attempt to 'make load' the following message is
> displayed.
>
> ndis0:  SpeedBooster> mem 0xffef6000-0xffef7fff irq 11 at
> device 8.0 on pci 0
> ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.0
> ndis0: NDIS ERROR: c0001389 (unknown error)
> ndis0: NDIS NUMERRORS: 1
> ndis0: argptr: 0xc
> ndis0: init handler failed
> device_attach: ndis0 attach returned 6
>
> And kldstat lists the following:
>
> Id  Refs  Address  SizeName
> 1   6 0xc040   5b6c5c  kernel
> 2   1 0xc14f1000   53000   if_ndis.ko
> 3   1 0xc1544000   d000ndis.ko
>
>
> I have even attempted to enter ndis_load="YES" in the
> loader.conf, but to no avail.  Also, I have hand typed
> these in, so any mistakes are likely due to me typing
> in this message.
>
> If you have gotten to this point, thanks for your
> patience.  If you have a suggestion, even better!  But
> please, type slowly and use small words.  I have the
> capacity of an ill trained carp.
>
>
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Re: A packages question.

2004-10-01 Thread doug
thanks - I will try it this way

On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote:

> While this idea may seem good on the surface, it's really a very bad
> idea (and I speak from experience) to hand-modify your package
> database.  What you /should/ do instead is force the addition of the
> packages.  `pkg_add -f `
>
>
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 22:16:45 -0400 (EDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Neither XFree86 4.4 nor Xorg supports the video on my laptop while XFree86 4.3
> > works.
> >
> > I want to set up the package database to say XFree 4.4 is installed to see if I
> > can install the latest packages. Does anyone know that this will not work? Also
> > if I could get some pointer on how to modify the package db or where this may be
> > documented
> >

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Re: A packages question.

2004-10-01 Thread Eric Kjeldergaard
While this idea may seem good on the surface, it's really a very bad
idea (and I speak from experience) to hand-modify your package
database.  What you /should/ do instead is force the addition of the
packages.  `pkg_add -f `


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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Neither XFree86 4.4 nor Xorg supports the video on my laptop while XFree86 4.3
> works.
> 
> I want to set up the package database to say XFree 4.4 is installed to see if I
> can install the latest packages. Does anyone know that this will not work? Also
> if I could get some pointer on how to modify the package db or where this may be
> documented
> 
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A packages question.

2004-10-01 Thread doug
Neither XFree86 4.4 nor Xorg supports the video on my laptop while XFree86 4.3
works.

I want to set up the package database to say XFree 4.4 is installed to see if I
can install the latest packages. Does anyone know that this will not work? Also
if I could get some pointer on how to modify the package db or where this may be
documented


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Re: gnome 2.8 mime associations

2004-10-01 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 20:59, Anton Alin-Adrian wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>   I just installed gnome 2.8 from the marcuscom.com tinderbox, and 
> everything is great and neat, except mimes are completely broken.

Define, "completely broken."

> 
>   I reinstalled gnome-mime from ports, latest nautilus. The gnome-vfs from 
> the tinderbox is the latest.
> 
>   Apparantely gnome control center from the tinderbox does not come with the 
> capplet for manually setting mimes.

Read the GNOME online help.  The MIME system has changed in 2.8.  All
MIME changes must go through Nautilus.

> 
>   The mimes in /usr/X11R6/share.. appear to be allright, i tried copying 
> them in the $HOME/.gnome/mime-info/ dir but without effect.
> 
>   So not only that all mimes are broken, but I also can't add them manually. 
> (or i did it in the wrong way by using vi)
> 
>   If would really appreciate if anyone knows some possible fix for this and 
> shares it with me.

You need to provide more details than simply saying something is
broken.  Provide screenshots, expected behavior, files in question, and
steps to reproduce.

Joe

> 
>   Thanks a lot for your time.
> 
> Yours Sincerely,
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gnome 2.8 mime associations

2004-10-01 Thread Anton Alin-Adrian
Hello,
	I just installed gnome 2.8 from the marcuscom.com tinderbox, and 
everything is great and neat, except mimes are completely broken.

	I reinstalled gnome-mime from ports, latest nautilus. The gnome-vfs from 
the tinderbox is the latest.

	Apparantely gnome control center from the tinderbox does not come with the 
capplet for manually setting mimes.

	The mimes in /usr/X11R6/share.. appear to be allright, i tried copying 
them in the $HOME/.gnome/mime-info/ dir but without effect.

	So not only that all mimes are broken, but I also can't add them manually. 
(or i did it in the wrong way by using vi)

	If would really appreciate if anyone knows some possible fix for this and 
shares it with me.

Thanks a lot for your time.
Yours Sincerely,
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Re: /var/log/wtmp always reseting to 0

2004-10-01 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:52 PM -0400 10/1/04, questions wrote:
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Richard Lynch wrote:
 man logrotate
 > Probably the logs are getting rotated and old ones discarded.
   man logrotate does nothing
On FreeBSD, the utility is called newsyslog.
The entry would be in /etc/newsyslog.conf .
You should have an entry in there for /var/log/wtmp, but all that
will do is rotate the file.  It isn't going to truncate it.

__Snip Command Output_
   $ cd /var/log
   $ ls -al wtmp*
   -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  308 Oct  1 18:34 wtmp
   -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel0 Oct  1 05:48 wtmp.0
   -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel0 Oct  1 05:42 wtmp.1
   -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel0 Oct  1 05:36 wtmp.2
   -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel0 Oct  1 05:30 wtmp.3
   $
___End Snip__
Uh, it seems odd that all those files have a date of "Oct 1".
newsyslog should only rotate the file once on any given day,
not five times, once every six minutes.  Did someone change the
entry for newsyslog in /etc/crontab ?  The only reference to
newsyslog in /etc/crontab should look like:
# Rotate log files every hour, if necessary.
0   *   *   *   *   rootnewsyslog
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Re: Java5 and FreeBSD

2004-10-01 Thread Dick Davies
* De Savant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1038 01:38]:
> I was looking around with this latest announcement of Sun's Java2 1.5, 
> since I was considering using FreeBSD on our server (amd64) instead of 
> Linux. I made my way to Sun's java page, and then to the newest Java2 
> Enterprise Edition 1.4 release. Yet no FreeBSD Java?

Sun have never released any VM for FreeBSD. The linux one will probably work
out of the box under the Linuxulator.
 
> "This release of the J2EE 1.4 SDK and the Sun Java System Application 
> Server Platform Edition 8 is available for the following platforms:
> Solaris 9 (SPARC and x86)
> Sun Java Desktop System
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server
> Windows XP
> Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2.1, 3.0"
 
> That's odd, but Linux wasn't taken very seriously either for a long 
> time, so maybe it's under J2SE instead? Nope. Windows, Linux (x86), 
> Linux (amd64), Solaris (SPARC), and Solaris (x86). The same for 1.4 sdk 
> too. WTF, Right? Now I found:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/java/
> 
> This I'm guessing is not the J2EE that you read about in Sun's Java 
> books, but J2SE. So now I'm approaching my question. Will there ever be 
> plans to port J2EE to FreeBSD running as a server? 

J2EE is just a buttload of jarfiles, effectively. Install jboss from ports
and you have all the j2ee stuff you could ever want^W need^W , uh, put up with.


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Java5 and FreeBSD

2004-10-01 Thread De Savant
I was looking around with this latest announcement of Sun's Java2 1.5, 
since I was considering using FreeBSD on our server (amd64) instead of 
Linux. I made my way to Sun's java page, and then to the newest Java2 
Enterprise Edition 1.4 release. Yet no FreeBSD Java?

"This release of the J2EE 1.4 SDK and the Sun Java System Application 
Server Platform Edition 8 is available for the following platforms:
Solaris 9 (SPARC and x86)
Sun Java Desktop System
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Windows XP
Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2.1, 3.0"

That's odd, but Linux wasn't taken very seriously either for a long 
time, so maybe it's under J2SE instead? Nope. Windows, Linux (x86), 
Linux (amd64), Solaris (SPARC), and Solaris (x86). The same for 1.4 sdk 
too. WTF, Right? Now I found:

http://www.freebsd.org/java/
This I'm guessing is not the J2EE that you read about in Sun's Java 
books, but J2SE. So now I'm approaching my question. Will there ever be 
plans to port J2EE to FreeBSD running as a server? 

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RE: Quickie... Hopefully!

2004-10-01 Thread Richard Marriner
Kevin,

  This is exactly what is happening..  I have found though that if I give
the interface two Ips with ifconfig and set the default route to our newest
router (Cisco 7204) somehow I am able to do what I am wanting. (I guess the
Cisco is lots smarter than our Tiara..) I am aware that having two numbered
networks on one physical lan is not good practice, but this is only a
temporary solution and VLANs are planned for the near future.. As for our
daemons, most are running promiscuous to any IP, but I am aware I will need
to "double check" the configs..

Thank you very much for your reply..

Richard

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Glick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:54 PM
> To: 'Richard Marriner'
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Quickie... Hopefully!
> 
> Richard,
> 
> I've done the same thing a few times.  To get the full 
> description, check
> the ifconfig man page and look for "alias".  There's two 
> problems with doing
> this: first, BSD can't have two default routes.  Windows 
> allows you to set
> two default gateways, and it works because of the "Route 
> Discovery" built
> into it (this is why a windows machine can use a gateway 
> that's not on it's
> local subnet...but, that's another topic).  Second, if you've 
> got servers
> set to listen only on a specific IP (apache, etc) it still 
> won't work, even
> with the alias.
> 
> Example:
> 1.1.1.1-1.1.1.255 -->from ISP #1 \
> /-> 1.1.1.2
>   -->hub/switch --> 
> FreeBSD fxp0 
> 2.2.2.1-2.2.2.255 -->from ISP #2 /
> \-> 2.2.2.2
> 
> In the crude diagram above, both ISPs feeds end up coming 
> into a hub/switch
> that your BSD machine is plugged into.  The normal ifconfig 
> on the device is
> 1.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0.  You would then: "ifconfig 
> fxp0 inet 2.2.2.2
> netmask 255.255.255.0 alias" the device.  This will work, as 
> long as routing
> is setup correctly.  Any request for 2.2.2.2 from anywhere in 
> the world
> would end up at the same machine/interface as a request for 
> 1.1.1.2.  The
> problem lies in getting data out with the aliased address.  
> The default
> route on the machine would be 1.1.1.1 and all traffic goes 
> there.  If you
> have specific traffic that you want to go out with the 
> 2.2.2.2 address,
> you'd have to add routes for each DESTINATION IP:  "route add 
> -net 3.3.3.3
> -netmask 255.255.255.0 2.2.2.1" and so on.  BSD isn't smart 
> enough to do
> source based routing.  So the traffic will come into 2.2.2.2 
> via ISP #2, but
> the replies/ACKs will go out via ISP #1.  Any traffic 
> generated from the
> machine, without a specified SOURCE IP will go out as 
> 1.1.1.2, and get sent
> via the 1.1.1.1 gateway.
> 
> The other problem with the diagram above is that you've got 
> two subnets
> running on the same lan, which breaks most rules of 
> networking.  This can be
> remedied with a few vlans, but again, that's another topic.
> 
> Hope this helps.  I'm sure most of this info is correct, but 
> I'm more than
> willing to have somebody set me straight.
> 
> Kevin Glick
> ITS Manager
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Marriner
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Quickie... Hopefully!
> 
> Dear list,
> 
>Just wondering if there is anyway (preferably simple.) to 
> have two ip
> addresses on the same NIC that are different networks.  
> 
> A little background.  We are in the process of changing ISPs, 
> we now have
> two circuits going to two differnet ISPs.  Because of this 
> change we have to
> renumber our entire network.  Being an ISP ourselves we have 
> a handful of
> servers that run FreeBSD.  While trying to get one of our 
> test servers to
> talk to both networks from the internet we fail, I think 
> because even though
> your request is on the new numbers FreeBSD still trys routing 
> the response
> back through our old gateway.  Another question, I know in 
> Windows XP you
> can set two gateways, two ips, etc.  Can you do this in FBSD? 
>   Our windows
> boxes are talking fine on both networks.
> 
> Any help or suggestions appreciated...
> 
>Richard Dean Marriner II
> SYIX.COM  --=--  Network Administrator
> 530-755-1751x206 - richard at syix.com
> 
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Re: Platforms

2004-10-01 Thread David Gerard
Bill Moran wrote:
Windows users love Windows at first, then grow to hate it.
BSD users hate FreeBSD at first, but grow to love it.

Windows is a luxury car with all the electric devices and trim.
And it's all shoddy and breaks in a few months.
Unix is a Land Rover with NOTHING fitted. But everything you
install properly stays there and keeps working.
(Linux users hate FreeBSD until they realise the pain in their
forehead has mysteriously vanished.)
- d.
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RE: Quickie... Hopefully!

2004-10-01 Thread Kevin Glick
Richard,

I've done the same thing a few times.  To get the full description, check
the ifconfig man page and look for "alias".  There's two problems with doing
this: first, BSD can't have two default routes.  Windows allows you to set
two default gateways, and it works because of the "Route Discovery" built
into it (this is why a windows machine can use a gateway that's not on it's
local subnet...but, that's another topic).  Second, if you've got servers
set to listen only on a specific IP (apache, etc) it still won't work, even
with the alias.

Example:
1.1.1.1-1.1.1.255 -->from ISP #1 \
/-> 1.1.1.2
-->hub/switch --> FreeBSD fxp0 
2.2.2.1-2.2.2.255 -->from ISP #2 /
\-> 2.2.2.2

In the crude diagram above, both ISPs feeds end up coming into a hub/switch
that your BSD machine is plugged into.  The normal ifconfig on the device is
1.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0.  You would then: "ifconfig fxp0 inet 2.2.2.2
netmask 255.255.255.0 alias" the device.  This will work, as long as routing
is setup correctly.  Any request for 2.2.2.2 from anywhere in the world
would end up at the same machine/interface as a request for 1.1.1.2.  The
problem lies in getting data out with the aliased address.  The default
route on the machine would be 1.1.1.1 and all traffic goes there.  If you
have specific traffic that you want to go out with the 2.2.2.2 address,
you'd have to add routes for each DESTINATION IP:  "route add -net 3.3.3.3
-netmask 255.255.255.0 2.2.2.1" and so on.  BSD isn't smart enough to do
source based routing.  So the traffic will come into 2.2.2.2 via ISP #2, but
the replies/ACKs will go out via ISP #1.  Any traffic generated from the
machine, without a specified SOURCE IP will go out as 1.1.1.2, and get sent
via the 1.1.1.1 gateway.

The other problem with the diagram above is that you've got two subnets
running on the same lan, which breaks most rules of networking.  This can be
remedied with a few vlans, but again, that's another topic.

Hope this helps.  I'm sure most of this info is correct, but I'm more than
willing to have somebody set me straight.

Kevin Glick
ITS Manager
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Sterling Business Forms


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Marriner
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Quickie... Hopefully!

Dear list,

   Just wondering if there is anyway (preferably simple.) to have two ip
addresses on the same NIC that are different networks.  

A little background.  We are in the process of changing ISPs, we now have
two circuits going to two differnet ISPs.  Because of this change we have to
renumber our entire network.  Being an ISP ourselves we have a handful of
servers that run FreeBSD.  While trying to get one of our test servers to
talk to both networks from the internet we fail, I think because even though
your request is on the new numbers FreeBSD still trys routing the response
back through our old gateway.  Another question, I know in Windows XP you
can set two gateways, two ips, etc.  Can you do this in FBSD?   Our windows
boxes are talking fine on both networks.

Any help or suggestions appreciated...

   Richard Dean Marriner II
SYIX.COM  --=--  Network Administrator
530-755-1751x206 - richard at syix.com

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Re: /var/log/wtmp always reseting to 0

2004-10-01 Thread questions


On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Richard Lynch wrote:

> man logrotate
>
> Probably the logs are getting rotated and old ones discarded.
>
> Or, possibly, you haven't realized that the old logs are in /var/log/*.#
> where * matches the old log name, and # is 1 to N, for some N defined in
> logrotate configuration.

man logrotate does nothing =

Snip Command Output___
$ man logrotate
No manual entry for logrotate
End Snip_

Given that all wtmp.#.gz files have a 0 size would seem to indicate all
the files were emptied somehow?

__Snip Command Output_
$ cd /var/log
$ ls -al wtmp*
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  308 Oct  1 18:34 wtmp
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel0 Oct  1 05:48 wtmp.0
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel0 Oct  1 05:42 wtmp.1
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel0 Oct  1 05:36 wtmp.2
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel0 Oct  1 05:30 wtmp.3
$
___End Snip__

Also the end of month accounting report sent to root shows no logins at
all wound indicate the wtmp file must be resetting to 0 prior to the end
of the month account process taking place?

Dave

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Re: Quickie... Hopefully!

2004-10-01 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 03:36:52PM -0700, Richard Marriner wrote:
> Yes,  I have tried that, but it doesn't send the reply out the route that it
> received it on.

OK, please provide more details then.  I'd guess you're doing
something wrong, e.g. using the wrong subnet for the aliased address.

Kris


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Re: Quickie... Hopefully!

2004-10-01 Thread Glenn Sieb
Richard Marriner said the following on 10/1/2004 6:25 PM:
Dear list,
  Just wondering if there is anyway (preferably simple.) to have two ip
addresses on the same NIC that are different networks.  
 

First, I would test things out by adding an ifconfig alias (man 
ifconfig) and adding a new route to the new gateway IP (using the route 
command).

Then, once you're sure things are working, add an ifconfig alias in 
rc.conf. You probably want the *new* IP to be the non-alias address, and 
the *old* IP to be the alias. Make sure that defaultrouter is set in 
rc.conf to be the new gateway IP. You'll need to also add the route for 
the aliased IP to the route table using the route command. Then, test 
away--make sure traffic from both IP blocks makes it through! Traceroute 
is your friend! :)

(I'm not a total network geek, but IIRC, this is one way of doing what 
you're looking for. If there are better ways of doing this, I look 
forward to reading the replies and learning better ways! :) )

Best,
Glenn
--
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." 
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RE: Quickie... Hopefully!

2004-10-01 Thread Richard Marriner
Yes,  I have tried that, but it doesn't send the reply out the route that it
received it on.

Richard
 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Kris Kennaway
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:34 PM
> To: Richard Marriner
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Quickie... Hopefully!
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 03:25:07PM -0700, Richard Marriner wrote:
> > Dear list,
> > 
> >Just wondering if there is anyway (preferably simple.) 
> to have two ip
> > addresses on the same NIC that are different networks.  
> > 
> > A little background.  We are in the process of changing 
> ISPs, we now have
> > two circuits going to two differnet ISPs.  Because of this 
> change we have to
> > renumber our entire network.  Being an ISP ourselves we 
> have a handful of
> > servers that run FreeBSD.  While trying to get one of our 
> test servers to
> > talk to both networks from the internet we fail, I think 
> because even though
> > your request is on the new numbers FreeBSD still trys 
> routing the response
> > back through our old gateway.  Another question, I know in 
> Windows XP you
> > can set two gateways, two ips, etc.  Can you do this in 
> FBSD?   Our windows
> > boxes are talking fine on both networks.
> 
> Yes, there's nothing to it..use the 'ifconfig alias' command.
> 
> Kris
> 

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Symbios scsi and too large ata

2004-10-01 Thread Radu MOLNAR
Hello
I a computer wich has a Symbios scsi controller and a 40G ata drive. 
Because the computer's bios is too old it does notdetect the 40G drive.
So i tried to install FreeBSD on this box and failed miserably. 5.3BETA5 
would freeze on boot. Only prints 2 lines or so.

Then i tried 4.10. This one booted but doesnt see my scsi drive, only the 
ata one, on which ofcourse there is no point on instaling the system 
because it wont boot.

I read some documentation and saw that Symbios scsi controllers are 
supported in both 4.10 and 5.2.1 so i realy dont understand what the 
problem is.

In scsi bios utility it sais that the device uses irq 9. When doing kernel 
configuration on CLI mode i saw there is a device sio3 that uses the irq 9 
but it is not enabled.

I also booted OpenBSD on this box and it detected my scsi drive as sd0. 
But would really prefer running FreeBSD to Open so if you have any ideas 
pls tell me.

And if it is not possible to install the system on the scsi drive maybe 
some suggestions on how to boot the sistem from the ata drive which doesnt 
boot(some floppies or smth like that)

thanks
 Radu
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Re: Quickie... Hopefully!

2004-10-01 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 03:25:07PM -0700, Richard Marriner wrote:
> Dear list,
> 
>Just wondering if there is anyway (preferably simple.) to have two ip
> addresses on the same NIC that are different networks.  
> 
> A little background.  We are in the process of changing ISPs, we now have
> two circuits going to two differnet ISPs.  Because of this change we have to
> renumber our entire network.  Being an ISP ourselves we have a handful of
> servers that run FreeBSD.  While trying to get one of our test servers to
> talk to both networks from the internet we fail, I think because even though
> your request is on the new numbers FreeBSD still trys routing the response
> back through our old gateway.  Another question, I know in Windows XP you
> can set two gateways, two ips, etc.  Can you do this in FBSD?   Our windows
> boxes are talking fine on both networks.

Yes, there's nothing to it..use the 'ifconfig alias' command.

Kris


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Quickie... Hopefully!

2004-10-01 Thread Richard Marriner
Dear list,

   Just wondering if there is anyway (preferably simple.) to have two ip
addresses on the same NIC that are different networks.  

A little background.  We are in the process of changing ISPs, we now have
two circuits going to two differnet ISPs.  Because of this change we have to
renumber our entire network.  Being an ISP ourselves we have a handful of
servers that run FreeBSD.  While trying to get one of our test servers to
talk to both networks from the internet we fail, I think because even though
your request is on the new numbers FreeBSD still trys routing the response
back through our old gateway.  Another question, I know in Windows XP you
can set two gateways, two ips, etc.  Can you do this in FBSD?   Our windows
boxes are talking fine on both networks.

Any help or suggestions appreciated...

   Richard Dean Marriner II
SYIX.COM  --=--  Network Administrator
530-755-1751x206 - richard at syix.com

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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Simon Barner
Bill Moran wrote:
> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[...]

> > Then something has changed. So often flames start by a user simply 
> > asking a question that had he/she simply searched the list - would have 
> > found the answer covered many times over.
> 
> No.  Nothing has changed.  The official list policy has ALWAYS been to
> be polite.  And people have ALWAYS violated that policy.  And people
> like me have ALWAYS jumped in and made a point of the fact that this
> kind of thing is NOT acceptable.

[ outline of list charta ]

I absolutely agree with Bill. One of the most pleasant things about
FreeBSD mailing lists and the community as a whole is that you have
the feeling that you are talking to adult human beings you share an
interest / preference in operating system / profession / etc. with.

And I heared a lot of people support my opinion, esp. from newbies
trying FreeBSD for the first time. The professional and polite style
here has become rare in today's internet, where every Tom, Dick and
Harry thinks he needs to be kewl or insulting.

Simon


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Re: Platforms

2004-10-01 Thread Bill Moran
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> Thanks guys. And I most certainly will enjoy FreeBSD as Microsoft windows
> is really starting to get to me >:|

Acutally, you probably won't enjoy it at first.

My experience:

Windows users love Windows at first, then grow to hate it.

BSD users hate FreeBSD at first, but grow to love it.

The reason is that Windows is easy to use and learn, but once you understand
it, you start to realize all the problems and shortcomings it has.

FreeBSD (or any Unix-like system) doesn't pretent to be easy to learn.  It
_is_ learnable, it just takes some time.  But after 5 years of using FreeBSD
as my desktop computer, I'm _still_ learning new ways to use it to make
my work easier.  And I had it working better than Windows 5 years ago.

-- 
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Potential Technologies
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RE: Platforms

2004-10-01 Thread kaelthun
Thanks guys. And I most certainly will enjoy FreeBSD as Microsoft windows
is really starting to get to me >:|

Regards,

Jimmy

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about ports reinstall

2004-10-01 Thread Lila
Hi,
The php4 ports that I installed did not work with mysql,
it seems like it never able to configure to work with mysql.
No mysql info can be found with phpinfo().
I tried to reinstall php4 many times but no luck for me.
I want to ask is there a way to completely remove the
installed ports and related deps so that I can do a very
clean install of php4 and maybe with apache and mysql.
Thanks!
Regards,
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NDISulator (aka. Project Evil) wmp54gs w. bcm4306

2004-10-01 Thread K. Greenwood
Quick question.  Where do queries regarding Bill
Paul's NDISulator go?  I have seen some to current,
hardware, mobile.  

Or even better, a howto (the best I have seen thus far
is:)
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-January/019486.html





The following is extraneous info, if someone here can
clue me in.

I have a PCI Linksys WMP54GS (pciconf -vl as follows):

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8:0  class=0x028000 card=0x00151737
chip=0x432014e4 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00

vendor  =  'Broadcom Corporation'
device  =  'BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller'
class   =  network


FreeBSD type (uname -a) as follows:

FreeBSD workstation.domain.org 5.3-BETA6 FreeBSD
5.3BETA6 #0: Sat Sep 25 19:41:14 UTC 2004  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 
i386


The only device that I can find that looks like it is
listed as

pci0:  at device 8.0 (no driver attached)


I copied over the win32exe from the linksys site, used
a windows system and got the required files
(BCMWL5.inf & bcmwl5.sys).  Address follows.

http://www.linksys.com/download/driver.asp?dlid=132&osid=6

And attempted the following, as per Mr. Paul's
message.

# cp foo.sys foo.inf /sys/modules/if_ndis
# cd /sys/modules/ndis
# make; make load
# cd /sys/modules/if_ndis
# ndiscvt -i foo.inf -s foo.sys -o ndis_driver_data.h
# make; make load

When I attempt to 'make load' the following message is
displayed.

ndis0:  mem 0xffef6000-0xffef7fff irq 11 at
device 8.0 on pci 0
ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.0
ndis0: NDIS ERROR: c0001389 (unknown error)
ndis0: NDIS NUMERRORS: 1
ndis0: argptr: 0xc
ndis0: init handler failed
device_attach: ndis0 attach returned 6

And kldstat lists the following:

Id  Refs  Address  SizeName
1   6 0xc040   5b6c5c  kernel
2   1 0xc14f1000   53000   if_ndis.ko
3   1 0xc1544000   d000ndis.ko


I have even attempted to enter ndis_load="YES" in the
loader.conf, but to no avail.  Also, I have hand typed
these in, so any mistakes are likely due to me typing
in this message.

If you have gotten to this point, thanks for your
patience.  If you have a suggestion, even better!  But
please, type slowly and use small words.  I have the
capacity of an ill trained carp.



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Re: How do you duplicate a drive?

2004-10-01 Thread Remko Lodder
Matt Staroscik wrote:
I have a RAID mirror (2x 160GB) which I would like to back up onto a 
spare 160GB drive.

I do not have a hot-swap caddy so I was planning on powering down the 
system to get the backup drive in and out.

But once I have the new blank drive in, what is the best way to 
duplicate the RAID? Ideally I would like to create a disk that could 
boot the system (and rebuild the RAID) in case disaster strikes.

Can dd do this?
I am new to Unix disk operations... Many thanks in advance for the help.
I think that dd if=/dev/ of=/dev/ would work in 
duplicating the entire raid disk. I don't know if there are better ways, 
so if someone knows them, we would like to know ;)

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Re: Emulatof for win32 apps on FreeBSD (Was: )

2004-10-01 Thread Remko Lodder
Nicx wrote:
   Hello Guy's!
   Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
   ... Nicx
Try wine... and like others said, try to use the subject line please!
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Re: Backup/Restore

2004-10-01 Thread Jan Grant
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, Brian McCann wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:59:05 -0700 (PDT), Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Brian McCann wrote:
> > >  Hi all...I'm having a conceptual problem I can't get around and
> > > was hoping someone can change my focus here.  I've been backing up
> > > roughly 6-8 million small files (roughly 2-4k each) using dump, but
> > > restores take forever due to the huge number of files and directories.
> > >  Luckily, I haven't had to restore for an emergency yet...but if I
> > > need to, I'm kinda stuck.  I've looked at distributed file systems
> > > like CODA, but the number of files I have to deal with will make it
> > > choke.  Can anyone offer any suggestions?  I've pondered running
> > > rsync, but am very worried about how long that will take...
> > 
> > Do the files change a lot, or is it more like a few files added/changed
> > every day, and the bulk don't change?
> > 
> > If it's the latter, you could maybe get best performance from something
> > like Subversion (a CVS derivative).
> > 
> > Though I suspect rsync would also do well in that case.
> > 
> > If a ton of those files are changing all the time, try doing a test on
> > creating a tarball and then backing up the tarball.  That may be a simple
> > managable solution.  There are probably other more complex solutions of
> > which I am ignorant :-)
>
> I have the case where a new file is created about every second or two,
> nothing gets changed, but files get deleted occasionally (it's a mail
> server).  I thought of using tar, but it would be just as slow as dump
> I would think.  I've thought of breaking it up into chunks, but that
> still doesn't solve my speed issue...i'm beginning to consider using
> dd since it reads the actual disk bits, and just hope that a)I don't
> ever need one file and b) the system I restore to has at least or more
> space then the original server.  Any other thoughts anyone?

You might want to experiment with something like rsync to maintain a 
"live" (ie, on a FS) second copy. If you do this don't be put off by the 
initial rsync time (which may well take ages - tar or dump/restore may 
be faster to get the second copy in place initially). Rsync over such a 
large filesystem may take quite a while but the best bet is to actually 
try it to see if it meets your needs.

Obviously a restore of a mail repository is a pretty awful thing to have 
to do. Amongst other things, users can find the "ressurrection" of 
deleted mails to be a real pain. You might want to see if your mail repo 
can generate some kind of replay log - if so, this might be the best 
route for minimising the amount of time needed to synchronise mailstores 
and to get the closest fidelity out of the copy.

Breaking your mailstore into separate chunks may well help. Yes, the 
total time for a dump/restore may be close to your current state of 
play, but if you can split the partitions between machines then you have 
the option to perform these in parallel.

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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Josh Hansen
Chris wrote:
Nicx wrote:
   Hello Guy's!
   Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
   ... Nicx
    www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
   Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!

I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line
It would be nice if everyone used proper grammar and spelling as well.  ;)
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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Bill Moran
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bill Moran wrote:
> > Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Nicx wrote:
> >>
> >>>   Hello Guy's!
> >>>
> >>>   Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
> >>>   ... Nicx
> >>>    www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
> >>>   Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
> >>
> >>I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line
> > 
> > 
> > Those kind of comments are not welcome on this list.
> > 
> > When a poster violates the posting policy, it is customary to _politely_
> > direct him/her to a reference regarding the proper policy, i.e.
> > http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
> 
> Then something has changed. So often flames start by a user simply 
> asking a question that had he/she simply searched the list - would have 
> found the answer covered many times over.

No.  Nothing has changed.  The official list policy has ALWAYS been to
be polite.  And people have ALWAYS violated that policy.  And people
like me have ALWAYS jumped in and made a point of the fact that this
kind of thing is NOT acceptable.

I don't care how many flame wars have upset you.  This list can get
VERY frustrating at times ... since it's not moderated, people say a
lot of things, but that doesn't mean it's OK.  It just means that
nobody's going to get banned from the list because they have a bad
day.

On top of that, I'm pointing out ... once again, that OFFICIAL LIST POLICY
is posted at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html (there is a copy of
this on www.freebsd.org, but I don't feel like searching for it right
now)  and I quote:

"... If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer.

" If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format,
just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him
this message in reply, if you like."

> This is really no different then users that top post.
> Sorry folks, I'm not the "touchy-feely" type.
> Choose your verbiage - I call it as I see it.

I don't really care what "type" you are.  If you continually make
rude remarks to new posters, I will email postmaster@ with a corpus
of your rudeness, and request that you be banned on the basis that
it's against list policy.

As I said, we all have bad days, I'm no exception.  But admit that
you're having a bad day, apologize for it and move on.  If you
can't do that, you should follow grog's advice and "don't answer."

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well,

2004-10-01 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Bill Moran wrote:
> > Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Nicx wrote:
> >>
> >>>   Hello Guy's!
> >>>
> >>>   Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
> >>>   ... Nicx
> >>>    www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
> >>>   Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
> >>
> >>I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line
> > 
> > 
> > Those kind of comments are not welcome on this list.
> > 
> > When a poster violates the posting policy, it is customary to _politely_
> > direct him/her to a reference regarding the proper policy, i.e.
> > http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
> 
> Then something has changed. So often flames start by a user simply 
> asking a question that had he/she simply searched the list - would have 
> found the answer covered many times over.
> 
> This is really no different then users that top post.
> Sorry folks, I'm not the "touchy-feely" type.
> Choose your verbiage - I call it as I see it.

We don't appreciate people calling people names -- even if the person
started by calling themself that name  "'tard".   There is no need
to be offensive or to perpetuate offensive or inhumane language.

As for specific criticisms of behavior, done in reasonable language, they
are acceptable.

jerry

> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Chris
> 
> Beware of the physician who is great at getting
> out of trouble.
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Re: How do you duplicate a drive?

2004-10-01 Thread knowtree
> 
> I have a RAID mirror (2x 160GB) which I would like to back up onto a spare 
> 160GB drive.
> 
> I do not have a hot-swap caddy so I was planning on powering down the 
> system to get the backup drive in and out.
> 
> But once I have the new blank drive in, what is the best way to duplicate 
> the RAID? Ideally I would like to create a disk that could boot the system 
> (and rebuild the RAID) in case disaster strikes.
> 
> Can dd do this?

As far as I know (never having done it myself) yes, byte for byte.

Before you do that I suggest you read up on vinum, the FreeBSD mirroring
service. There is man vinum, and a lot more in the on-line handbook, and
even more in Greg Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD. Greg wrote vinum, BTW.

(Greg, no charge for the plug.)

Gary Dunn
Honolulu


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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Chris
Bill Moran wrote:
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Nicx wrote:
  Hello Guy's!
  Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
  ... Nicx
   www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
  Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line

Those kind of comments are not welcome on this list.
When a poster violates the posting policy, it is customary to _politely_
direct him/her to a reference regarding the proper policy, i.e.
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html
Then something has changed. So often flames start by a user simply 
asking a question that had he/she simply searched the list - would have 
found the answer covered many times over.

This is really no different then users that top post.
Sorry folks, I'm not the "touchy-feely" type.
Choose your verbiage - I call it as I see it.
--
Best regards,
Chris
Beware of the physician who is great at getting
out of trouble.
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Re: [OT] Anyone know a good counterpart to this list for Mac OS X?

2004-10-01 Thread lbland
On Sep 26, 2004, at 8:56 PM, Eric Crist wrote:
Sorry for the off-topic question.  I was wondering if anyone is aware 
of a good counterpart to this list for Mac OS X.  Possibly even 
containing people from this list who've moved to a Mac?  I just moved 
my primary workstation to a PowerBook G4 and I'm starting to have some 
techie questions that I can't quite figure out.
hi-
check out the few dozen lists available at:
http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo
thanks!-
-lance
Lance Bland
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VVI
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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Oct 1, 2004, at 3:24 PM, Bill Moran wrote:
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nicx wrote:
   Hello Guy's!
   Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on 
freeBSD?
   ... Nicx
    www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox 
www.hyperhosting.gr
   Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject 
line
Those kind of comments are not welcome on this list.
Maybe he was having a bad day and took one too many irritations like 
that to heart; I sometimes don't bother replying to top posters anymore 
in my emails or to lists just because it's irritating to me to keep 
going through jumbled headers and sorting crap out to get an actual 
idea of what is going on in an email.  Eventually I just pop it into 
the bit bucket...if it's important, they'll email again with hopefully 
a new email that's clean and free of crap.

Same with people that use reply-to to post their new message 
topics...so it gets threaded under a different subject that has NOTHING 
to do with the actual topic at hand.  So they screw up the threading.

AAARGH
then again, I break the 72-character wrapping.  Other people are really 
miffed at that in this list.  I wish someone would fix the Unix mailers 
to see this properly, because I'm using Mail.app and it's stupid after 
being drilled so often not to hit "enter" periodically for word 
processing.  Mail.app does put in wrapping, but it's using a type of 
word wrapping that is configurable...something from qualcomm, I want to 
say?...where messages would be dynamically wrapped to be more readable 
on variable display sizes.  Something about messages showing up 
properly in email editors on PCs to small displays like those on PDA's 
and cellphones.  If the mailer interprets this properly, every 
quotation is properly indented regardless of the size of the window.  
So I irritate people in that regard.

When everyone who emails me stops top posting and screwing up the 
threading or doing anything else to irritate my wonderful online 
experience, I'll manually wrap lines at 72 characters.

Anyway, yeah, it was wrong to be so harsh...but maybe he had *some* 
justification in mind at the time.

If you want to be rude to people, please don't associate yourself with
FreeBSD when you do it.
Yeah...take it to an advocacy forum! :-)
As to the OP's question, look at wine (http://www.winehq.com) ... 
although
I've never had much success with it, that's what it's supposed to do.
Try using vmware, or QEMU.  Or Plex86, or whatever they're calling that 
project now.  VM's tended to work much better for running Windows 
software than WINE has worked for me, but that's just my experience.

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Re: IP address conflicts

2004-10-01 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Sep 27, 2004, at 12:49 AM, Tim Aslat wrote:
In the immortal words of "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...

Once again, I must assume that these notebooks legitimately owned by
students and staff are NOT owned by the people that are changing the
IP numbers.
I actually think it's more than 1 culprit, and I couldn't be 100%
certain whether they are using their own notebooks or school machines
until I catch them in the act.
Do what spammers do...set up all the school machines to act as zombies 
and when you detect the asshats pulling their little trick, flood them 
with connection requests to poof them off the network :-)

If you have a situation where you KNOW who is doing it, and they are
getting away with this, with the full knowledge of the Dean and others
in the college,
then you may as well just start looking for another job.  If I was in
your shoes
I would.
Nobody is actually getting away with it, it's just frustrating not
knowing who.
Doesn't arpwatch look for the mac changes on the network, which could 
help you track down the MAC which is pulling the address when it 
shouldn't?  I see messages from arpwatch from some of our servers when 
DHCP leases change.  Will at least help you narrow down the 
suspects...If you get a MAC address, you can run a detailed NMap 
against them to try identifying platform information as well as get the 
make/model of their network card from the MAC.

That MAC, unless they're spoofing it, will give you evidence to use 
against them.

There's also Nessus you can use on the system once you narrow it 
down...see what if any vulnerabilities there may be.  Not that *I* 
advocate doing something like this.  I'd *never* advocate breaking into 
another machine just because it was causing problems on your network.

Once you have their MAC, you could also watch and see what address that 
MAC is magically changed to when the "attack" stops...then redirect 
their traffic using some ARP redirection (etherpeek? dsniff?) to 
redirect their requests through a local BSD machine acting as a gateway 
(forwarding packets).  Sniff the traffic for awhile until a username 
comes through when looking for POP mail or some other text-based 
requests, then you know who it is (or at least who's at that machine).  
It's your school's network, and usually there's policies in place 
saying that a user does not have guaranteed privacy to information 
going over school or university networks (or business networks, for 
that matter), especially if the hardware is school owned (and you don't 
really have a way of telling this with this attack, unless you have a 
list of MACs owned by the school and know for a fact that the user 
isn't spoofing the MAC).

Just some ideas I'd consider.
More than likely.  Unfortunately this is a legacy network held together
with band-aids and fencing wire.  I'm gradually making changes to the
infrastructure, but it all costs money and in this case, it definitely
won't happen overnight, but it is happening.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Can you contact your upstream provider for a couple static IPs or a 
static IP that you could use to subnet and NAT your servers for the 
public off the regular student network?  That way the idiots in your 
own network shouldn't be *able* to affect your web servers, mail 
servers, etc...

Of course, they could continue screwing with your internal servers, but 
at least this would reduce the damage they inflict.

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RE: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Tom Connolly
Here here!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:24 PM
To: Chris
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Subject: Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no
subject)

Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nicx wrote:
> >Hello Guy's!
> > 
> >Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
> >... Nicx
> > www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
> >Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
> 
> I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line

Those kind of comments are not welcome on this list.

When a poster violates the posting policy, it is customary to _politely_
direct him/her to a reference regarding the proper policy, i.e.
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html

If you want to be rude to people, please don't associate yourself with
FreeBSD when you do it.

As to the OP's question, look at wine (http://www.winehq.com) ... although
I've never had much success with it, that's what it's supposed to do.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Bill Moran
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nicx wrote:
> >Hello Guy's!
> > 
> >Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
> >... Nicx
> > www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
> >Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
> 
> I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line

Those kind of comments are not welcome on this list.

When a poster violates the posting policy, it is customary to _politely_
direct him/her to a reference regarding the proper policy, i.e.
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html

If you want to be rude to people, please don't associate yourself with
FreeBSD when you do it.

As to the OP's question, look at wine (http://www.winehq.com) ... although
I've never had much success with it, that's what it's supposed to do.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-10-01 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Sep 27, 2004, at 3:14 PM, Doug Hardie wrote:
On Sep 27, 2004, at 11:39, Nico Meijer wrote:
Regular folks don't understand how mail works. They have no clue
whatsoever. They don't _want_ to have a clue either. They are just
behaving like consumers, again. Do you *really* want to know what's 
on your plate at dinner? ;-) I do, maybe you too, but most people 
don't.

If I had a dime for every time I have had to discuss how mail delivery
actually works to Joe Average or his Windows NT/2000 systems
administrator... boy.
Again, I have many _very_ strong opinions on how email should be
managed, this is one of them.
I happen to have a very strong opinion on the grim state of humanity
in general and regular, everyday, Joe Average computer users in 
particular. I am therefore strongly biased. ;-)
When Joe Average computer user sends an order to Jane Trader to sell 
his stock in xxx because its the highest its ever been and that email 
sits in your secondary MX until after xxx falls to penny stock status, 
then Joe Average computer user will have plenty of world class lawyers 
on his doorstep with big dollar signs in their eyes.  They will have 
no problem convincing Joe Sub-Average juror (of which there will be 
more than enough to go around) that you were the cause of Joe Average 
computer users' loss of his entire retirement savings.  After all, you 
accepted the email and acknowledged it and failed to deliver it to 
Jane in a timely fashion.  Any technical arguments you make about the 
server down etc., will not faze the judge (who couldn't care less - he 
gets paid the same no matter who wins) or Joe Sub-Average juror who is 
only interested in who is putting on the better entertainment (you or 
the soap opera he is missing at home).
Joe Average was stupid to have only one way of verifying that this 
transaction took place...and failed...lacking verification, there 
should ALWAYS be a backup way to do a transaction involving large sums 
of cash to verify that transactions go through when the primary means 
of communication (like your email server) becomes unavailable.  If you 
don't, that's your fault.  Crap happens to any ISP and at some point 
your primary means of internet usage WILL go down.

Not the system admin's problem as long as the system admin wasn't 
knowingly negligent.

My domain was just changed over.  While my domain changed 
appropriately, my reverse DNS still isn't set right (the company that 
controls the IP block is about as responsive as a pack of slugs).  My 
postings to the freebsd question list have not been appearing, despite 
the fact that the changes seem to be working since late Saturday 
(except the afore-mentioned reverse dns lookups).  I can't really look 
into "fixing" this more until I know that the reversals are working 
properly to see if there's something else causing it.  I have gotten no 
bounces from the mail servers, no bounces from the list, NOTHING...my 
three or so postings have simply disappeared.  Can I sue someone?  I 
may have had a big issue on my servers to see help on before we lose 
lots of money... :-) (yes, I'm really having this problem right now, 
and I don't know how to get it fixed at the moment, even though I'm 
hoping it is just a reverse-DNS lookup issue and once the slugs get off 
their butts I'll start getting my posts back to the list again :-(

-Bart
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Re: [OT] Anyone know a good counterpart to this list for Mac OS X?

2004-10-01 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Sep 26, 2004, at 9:16 PM, Eric Crist wrote:
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On Sep 26, 2004, at 8:03 PM, Kevin Stevens wrote:
On Sep 26, 2004, at 17:56, Eric Crist wrote:
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Sorry for the off-topic question.  I was wondering if anyone is 
aware of a good counterpart to this list for Mac OS X.  Possibly 
even containing people from this list who've moved to a Mac?  I just 
moved my primary workstation to a PowerBook G4 and I'm starting to 
have some techie questions that I can't quite figure out.
If you want to post to a Mac list, I suggest taking a look at the 
X-Unix
list at: http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/X-Unix.html

KeS
I'm going to give this a shot.  Hopefully they're as professional as 
those on this list.  I've got high standards now a days. ;)
I'm looking for a decent list for Windows Server 2000 :-/  We have some 
terminal servers and file servers acting up with some quirks 
(surprise!).

For your question, I am subscribed to a pretty good MacOSX admin 
list...my rule lists the address as macosx-admin.omnigroup.com , so 
maybe I had subscribed from the omnigroup website :-)

-Bart
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Re: nat or ......?

2004-10-01 Thread Nagilum
..use a proxy like squid (/usr/ports/www/squid) .
probably easier than setting up NAT and sufficient if you only need 
http(s)/ftp(s).
Kind regards,
Alex.

metallarch wrote:
I made the ppp connection from windows to freebsd(tun0), and from freebsd to internet
(tun2)"at the same time"!
I have 2 modems
What can i do that i could browse internet on windows over freebsd?
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Re: I'm a 'tard - I don't know what a Subject line is (Was well, no subject)

2004-10-01 Thread Chris
Nicx wrote:
   Hello Guy's!
   Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
   ... Nicx
    www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
   Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
I would be sooo much nicer it 'tards would learn to use the subject line
--
Best regards,
Chris
It's better to retire too soon than too late.
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[no subject]

2004-10-01 Thread Nicx

   Hello Guy's!

   Is there any emulator that i  can run win32 apllications on freeBSD?
   ... Nicx
    www.ebox.gr - Dwrea'n E-mail µe 15MB mailbox www.hyperhosting.gr
   Apokty%ste to diko' sa*s web site µe dw%ro to domain name!
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Re: How do you duplicate a drive?

2004-10-01 Thread Steve Bertrand
>
> I have a RAID mirror (2x 160GB) which I would like to back up onto a
> spare
> 160GB drive.
>
> I do not have a hot-swap caddy so I was planning on powering down the
> system to get the backup drive in and out.
>
> But once I have the new blank drive in, what is the best way to
> duplicate
> the RAID? Ideally I would like to create a disk that could boot the
> system
> (and rebuild the RAID) in case disaster strikes.
>
> Can dd do this?

# man rsync

Steve

>
> I am new to Unix disk operations... Many thanks in advance for the
> help.
>
>
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How do you duplicate a drive?

2004-10-01 Thread Matt Staroscik
I have a RAID mirror (2x 160GB) which I would like to back up onto a spare 
160GB drive.

I do not have a hot-swap caddy so I was planning on powering down the 
system to get the backup drive in and out.

But once I have the new blank drive in, what is the best way to duplicate 
the RAID? Ideally I would like to create a disk that could boot the system 
(and rebuild the RAID) in case disaster strikes.

Can dd do this?
I am new to Unix disk operations... Many thanks in advance for the help.
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Re: fetchyahoo Failed: Couldn't get challenge to log in

2004-10-01 Thread Dan Finn
It's still working fine for me.


On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:36:12 -0700 (PDT), Huajian Luo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> --- Simon Barner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Huajian Luo wrote:
> > > hi,guys
> > >   I installed fetchyahoo and when I run fetchyahoo
> > > It told me
> > > 
> > > Logging in securely via SSL as
> > > Failed: Couldn't get challenge to log in, Try
> > again
> > > later,
> > >
> > > any comments on this?
> > > Thanks in advance!!!
> >
> > I remember to have read that they changed their
> > login interface, and
> > thus fetchyahoo needs to be updated.
> >
> > A PR is already in the queue, but since the ports
> > tree is currently
> > frozen, the update will take some time to take
> > place.
> >
> >
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/71804
> >
> > If you are very impatienty, you can try the
> > following:
> >
> > Edit the ports makefile, and change PORTVERSION to
> > 2.8.6.
> > Now run `make makesum && make build' and see if it
> > works.
> >
> > No guarantees, of course... ;-)
> >
> > Simon
> 
> Thanks for your information ,but I download the latest
> version 2.8.6 from its master site,the output is same
> as before, so maybe Yahoo changed his page again =(
> 
> Thanks anyway,
> huajian
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Re: pls give me more info about..

2004-10-01 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors- 
ftp.html

On Oct 1, 2004, at 12:57 PM, shimo mura wrote:
Hello Sir,
I need to know the site where available for me to make download  
freebsd 5.2.1 free and complete. Because i'm new and i really interest  
with the os and i want to learn more about it.

Pls give me more link for free dowload freebsd 5.2.1.
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"The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda

2004-10-01 Thread Greg Lehey
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation.  The result is that most leading edge
computer books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception.  Inevitably, a
number of bugs and changes have surfaced.

"The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its
predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD".  Two of these have been reprinted
with corrections.  I maintain a series of errata pages.  Start at
http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata
information.

Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing?  Please
let me know: I'm constantly updating it.

Greg
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How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions

2004-10-01 Thread Greg Lehey

How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
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Re: pls give me more info about..

2004-10-01 Thread bsdfsse
Pls give me more link for free dowload freebsd 5.2.1.
http://www.linuxiso.org/distro.php?distro=15
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pls give me more info about..

2004-10-01 Thread shimo mura
Hello Sir,
 
I need to know the site where available for me to make download freebsd 5.2.1 free and 
complete. Because i'm new and i really interest with the os and i want to learn more 
about it.
 
Pls give me more link for free dowload freebsd 5.2.1.
 
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Re: Good Outlook Calendar Replacement in ports?

2004-10-01 Thread Dee Gaans
I am currently using Evolution and it is great..  I
would recommend it..

DeeMan

--- "Andrew L. Gould" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Friday 01 October 2004 10:08 am, Benjamin
> Walkenhorst wrote:
> > On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:09:25 -0700
> >
> > Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Made my doc a committment to put appointments on
> FreeBSD, like I
> > > used to do at work on Windoze.  No more missed
> ones LOL.
> > >
> > > Is there a good desk app in ports that will do
> this? Doesnt have to
> > > be
> > >
> > > fancy, just work reliably.  Something that ran
> in background would
> > > be perfect.  And no- I'm not going to put them
> in as cron jobs 
> > > HAHA
> > >
> > > Thanks,  Rob
> >
> > KDE has Kontact. Also, Evolution comes to mind.
> > I think I remember there was a KDE app called
> korganizer, which also
> > had some functionality for managing appointments
> among several users.
> >
> > I have never worked with Kontact and Evolution and
> only little
> > experience with Korganizer on a single-user
> desktop.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Benjamin
> 
> I currently use jpilot, which doesn't do email; so
> I'm looking at 
> Evolution, which has tools for syncing palm pilots,
> as a possible 
> replacement.  I could not find syncing tools for
> Kontact.
> 
> Have fun,
> 
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Re: Gnome very very very slow ...

2004-10-01 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
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| Ok, thanks a lot, that worked (next I'll RTFM a bit more before asking
| (ashamed))
| I put net.inet.tcp.blackhole to 0 and as a miracle all the windows I was
| waiting appeared.
| Since, I can't understand, why it formerly worked.
| I made gnome work without lo0 (so 127.0.0.1 was unknown ...) and with
| tcp.blackhole at 2 and udp.blackhole at 1 ...
As that same FAQ says, FAM support is now enabled by default.  If you do
not configure FAM correctly, and you have TCP blackhole enabled, you
will get these huge hangs at login time.  You can either configure FAM,
or recompile gnomevfs2 without FAM support, then you can use TCP
blackhole all you want.
Joe
|
|
|
| Le Ven 01/10/2004 à 12:52, Simon Barner a écrit :
|
|>Hi,
|>
|>I guess you have to fix your hostname:
|>
|>http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q20
|>
|>Simon
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Re: Are there step-by-step VMWare instructions?

2004-10-01 Thread bsdfsse
bsdfsse wrote:
I'm going to try to install vmware2 instead of vmware3.  I put a call in 
to VMWare to get a 2.0 license.

I tried everything, I think.  I'm new to FreeBSD, so that is kind of 
working against me.

I will now try to dig up how to install vmware2 (I assume I don't have 
to  make quite some many changes).

vmware3 kept causing the DMA Read/Write errors when I turned on the vm 
machine.

thx
I didn't get very far with vmware2:


cpq24# cd /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2
cpq24# make install
===>  Building for vmware2-2.0.4.1142
===> vmmon-only
make -f Makefile.FreeBSD SMP=YES clean && make -f Makefile.FreeBSD SMP=YES
rm -f 
/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/export_syms 
vmmon_smp.ko vmmon_smp.kld memtrack.o phystrack.o task.o vmx86.o 
driver.o hostif.o linux_emu.o vmnet_linux.o @ machine symb.tmp tmp.o
Warning: Object directory not changed from original 
/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only
@ -> /usr/src/sys
machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include
cc -O -pipe 
-I/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/include 
-I/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/common

-
<>
-
/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd/driver.c:489: 
warning: 'FreeBSD_Driver_Poll' defined but not used
/usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/freebsd/driver.c:572: 
warning: 'FreeBSD_Driver_Ioctl' defined but not used
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2.
cpq24#


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Re: Are there step-by-step VMWare instructions?

2004-10-01 Thread bsdfsse
I'm going to try to install vmware2 instead of vmware3.  I put a call in 
to VMWare to get a 2.0 license.

I tried everything, I think.  I'm new to FreeBSD, so that is kind of 
working against me.

I will now try to dig up how to install vmware2 (I assume I don't have 
to  make quite some many changes).

vmware3 kept causing the DMA Read/Write errors when I turned on the vm 
machine.

thx
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Re: broken fs dump file

2004-10-01 Thread ict technician
On Friday 01 October 2004 12:49, Malcolm Kay wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 07:08 pm, ict technician wrote:
> > On Thursday 30 September 2004 17:19, Malcolm Kay wrote:
> > > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 06:15 pm, ict technician wrote:
> > > > I have a broken fs dump I need to fix. Is there a diagnostic/repair
> > > > tool I can use? I know about restore -N.
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > Dump was taken on 4.10. Restoring on 5.3BETA, although I can change
> > > > that.
> > >
> > > A question rather than an answer:
> > >   Is it valid to dump a ufs file system and try to restore it to a ufs2
> > >   system?
> > >
> > > Malcolm
> >
> > wrt dump:
> > on 5.x dump has to understand ufs2. However, you might choose to use ufs;
> > so it has to deal with that. Since dump does both, restore must do both.
> > QED :)
> >
> 
> I agree with the argument that dump must be able to dump a ufs fs
> that restore can restore to a ufs fs, and that dump must be able to dump a
> ufs2 fs that restore can restore to a ufs2 fs.
> 
> But to dump a ufs fs and restore it to a ufs2 fs is not the same thing,
> nor is it the 'normal' application for dump/restore.

Normal use is dump newfs restore. newfs now defaults to ufs2, so the default 
behavior (on 5.x) is to convert from ufs to ufs2. RTFM and note the absence 
of supporting evidence in any of the BUGS sections. I see no CAVEATS.

man 8 dump
man 8 restore
man 8 newfs

> Maybe this is quite a valid thing to do; I'd like to see an 'official' 
> statement to that effect -- I find your argument in relation to this
> situation unconvincing. Sorry about that. 
> 
> But you seem to be convinced by your investigation that the problem is
> elsewhere so at least tentitively I will accept that it is valid thing to do 
> even though I dismiss your argument.  

My problem is not that it doesn't restore. restore is quite happy to write out 
150,000 files. What it doesn't do is to recover from 3 faults in the file, 
leaving 100,000 files unrestored.

If these files were in some way "magic" (/dev ?) you might have a point, but 
they are MS word documents.

> 
> Malcolm
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
i j hart

ICT Technician
Cardinal Newman Catholic School & Community College
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Re: Good Outlook Calendar Replacement in ports?

2004-10-01 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Friday 01 October 2004 10:08 am, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:09:25 -0700
>
> Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Made my doc a committment to put appointments on FreeBSD, like I
> > used to do at work on Windoze.  No more missed ones LOL.
> >
> > Is there a good desk app in ports that will do this? Doesnt have to
> > be
> >
> > fancy, just work reliably.  Something that ran in background would
> > be perfect.  And no- I'm not going to put them in as cron jobs 
> > HAHA
> >
> > Thanks,  Rob
>
> KDE has Kontact. Also, Evolution comes to mind.
> I think I remember there was a KDE app called korganizer, which also
> had some functionality for managing appointments among several users.
>
> I have never worked with Kontact and Evolution and only little
> experience with Korganizer on a single-user desktop.
>
> Kind regards,
> Benjamin

I currently use jpilot, which doesn't do email; so I'm looking at 
Evolution, which has tools for syncing palm pilots, as a possible 
replacement.  I could not find syncing tools for Kontact.

Have fun,

Andrew Gould
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dynamic IPSEC: Holy grail sighted

2004-10-01 Thread Michael Kreykenbohm

I have a router/ FreeBSd with a network on the other side with a Dynamic IP.
At the other end is a static IP router/ FreeBsd box.

I was using a manually keyed encryption,
now I have the racoon to do the key negotiation.

I can change the static gif0 interfaces at the VPn dynamic router using the
dhclient-exit-loop.

But what about the server gif0 interface. The gif0 tunnel attributes want
the
VPN's router address, and I would need an "exit-hook" from racoon to set
this up,
more then just setting the SPD keys.


Any idea where to latch that from. I'v though about watchdogs (check the SPD
keys),
but is there a better way.


Michael Kreykenbohm

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OpenOffice freezing on 5.2-CURRENT

2004-10-01 Thread Your Name
Hi. i just installed OpenOffice 1.1.2 from a package;
i need to work with some PowerPoint presentations and
it seemed the best way.

It looked like the install went fine, but now i cant
seem to actually do anything with it. When it runs,
the initial screen comes up but if i select the "open"
dialog box it just freezes. Some other options go a
bit longer--i can choose "New->Presentation" and that
pops up an AutoPilot window, but after selecting one
or two things that freezes too. None of these give any
kind of crash report.

i did the install as suggested, and there wasnt
anything useful in the README (i did try to unset
SESSION_MANAGER as suggested--im running GNOME--but it
didnt work).

What do i do? And if i cant get this working is there
some other PowerPoint thing I can use, or a PowerPoint
to HTML converter?

Thanks!

Jen

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Re: pf for FreeBSD

2004-10-01 Thread Michael E . Conlen
On Sep 28, 2004, at 8:33 AM, shane mullins wrote:
   Why not just run OpenBSD if you want to use pf?  I use both Free 
and OpenBSD.  But, pf is much easier to set up on OpenBSD.  Just 
install OpenBSD, enable routing, enable pf in rc.conf and you are 
done.

I can tell you in my case OpenBSD doesn't provide drivers for the 
hardware I have.

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Re: Good Outlook Calendar Replacement in ports?

2004-10-01 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 05:09:25 -0700
Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Made my doc a committment to put appointments on FreeBSD, like I used
> to do at work on Windoze.  No more missed ones LOL.
> 
> Is there a good desk app in ports that will do this? Doesnt have to be
> 
> fancy, just work reliably.  Something that ran in background would be 
> perfect.  And no- I'm not going to put them in as cron jobs  HAHA
> 
> Thanks,  Rob
> 

KDE has Kontact. Also, Evolution comes to mind.
I think I remember there was a KDE app called korganizer, which also had
some functionality for managing appointments among several users.

I have never worked with Kontact and Evolution and only little
experience with Korganizer on a single-user desktop.

Kind regards,
Benjamin

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/var/log/wtmp always reseting to 0

2004-10-01 Thread questions


Howdy,
I'm running FreeBSD 4.10 my /var/log/wtmp file gets reset to 0 Kb
(as well as the wtmp.X.gz files) at the end/beginning of each month. I
noticed this last month when the monthly run output notice sent to roots
mail stated =
__Snip_
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: davez.org monthly run output

Doing login accounting:
total0.00

-- End of monthly output --
___End Snip___

At first I thought maybe a isolated case but this month the same thing
happened, the end of month accounting shows no logins and when I check the
log files they are all empty 0Kb prior to todays activity.

Anyone else seen this or have any ideas what may be wrong?

Thanks in advance for any help provided -

Dave
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RE: Pam_ldap

2004-10-01 Thread Bret Walker
The query you gave me worked.  I was able to see real name, home dir, ect.
I'm assuming since I can get that info, that I should be able to verify a
password too.

In my /usr/local/etc/ldap.conf file, I had binddb not bingdn.  Upon
changing this, I now get a different pam error.

It says:
"error: PAM: Authentication failure"

One step closer..



-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:41 AM
To: Bret Walker
Cc: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: Re: Pam_ldap


* Bret Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1023 15:23]:
> I have ldap.conf in /etc/ and in /usr/local/etc/ldap.conf


The one in /etc isn't doing anything, so get rid of it.

The  /usr/local/etc/ldap.conf should be holding the ad stuff
(what user to bind as , etc).

> I am able to log into the console as these users using the local
> password, but not using the ldap password.  All of my pam info is in
> /etc/pam.conf, I don't have /etc/pam.d.

Then you're on 4.X right? Shouldn't stop this working.

>
> sshd  authsufficient  pam_skey.so
> sshd  authsufficient  pam_opie.so no_fake_prompts
> sshd  authsufficient  pam_unix.so try_first_pass
> sshd  authsufficient  /usr/local/lib/pam_ldap.so
> try_first_pass debug
> sshd  account requiredpam_unix.so
> sshd  passwordrequiredpam_permit.so
> sshd  session requiredpam_permit.co
>
>
> All I see in the logs are messages saying:
> "error: PAM: User not known to the underlying authentication module"

Right, so sshd is using pam. That's something.

The error could mean several things, one of which is that the user doesn't
exist.

If you look through your ldap.conf, you  should have enough info to
pretend to be PAM.

use ldapsearch and try

ldapsearch -H "ldap:// -D ""
-W \
  =username

and enter the bindpw from ldap.conf

If you don't get the AD account  back, then your ldap.conf is screwed.

> I'm pretty sure the ldap.conf files are correct, because I've followed
> the instructions from several places to the T.

"The nice thing about definitive LDAP howtos is there are so many to
choose from" :)

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Re: Pam_ldap

2004-10-01 Thread Dick Davies
* Bret Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1023 15:23]:
> I have ldap.conf in /etc/ and in /usr/local/etc/ldap.conf


The one in /etc isn't doing anything, so get rid of it.

The  /usr/local/etc/ldap.conf should be holding the ad stuff 
(what user to bind as , etc).

> I am able to log into the console as these users using the local password,
> but not using the ldap password.  All of my pam info is in /etc/pam.conf,
> I don't have /etc/pam.d.

Then you're on 4.X right? Shouldn't stop this working.

> 
> sshd  authsufficient  pam_skey.so
> sshd  authsufficient  pam_opie.so no_fake_prompts
> sshd  authsufficient  pam_unix.so try_first_pass
> sshd  authsufficient  /usr/local/lib/pam_ldap.so
> try_first_pass debug
> sshd  account requiredpam_unix.so
> sshd  passwordrequiredpam_permit.so
> sshd  session requiredpam_permit.co
> 
> 
> All I see in the logs are messages saying:
> "error: PAM: User not known to the underlying authentication module"

Right, so sshd is using pam. That's something.

The error could mean several things, one of which is that the user doesn't exist.

If you look through your ldap.conf, you  should have enough info to pretend to be
PAM.

use ldapsearch and try 

ldapsearch -H "ldap:// -D "" -W \
  =username

and enter the bindpw from ldap.conf

If you don't get the AD account  back, then your ldap.conf is screwed.

> I'm pretty sure the ldap.conf files are correct, because I've followed the
> instructions from several places to the T.

"The nice thing about definitive LDAP howtos is there are so many to choose from" :) 

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alternative to 'top' in jail

2004-10-01 Thread Cerion Armour-Brown
Hi,
I have a jail with a freebsd jails provider...

What do people use as an alternative to 'top', inside a jail?
What else can I use to measure resource usage (cpu/ram)

Cheers,
Cerion
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legato networker

2004-10-01 Thread Patrick McNamee
Looked at google, archives, and ports but don't see 
anything recent regarding using Legato Networker 
backup system with FreeBSD. Anybody have any recent 
info about that, or is it just not supported?

tia

pm
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Re: Your Amazon.com Order

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Re: Pam_ldap

2004-10-01 Thread Dick Davies
Right, basically this is doing what I thought - just checking passwords
in AD without looking up user info, so the accounts need to exist on the bsd server
(that may become a real pain in the arse, by the way).

couple of quick checks;

1) the ldap.conf referred to should  be /usr/local/etc/ldap.conf *NOT* 
/etc/openldap/ldap.conf

2) can you log onto the console as these users? If you're sshing you may need
to edit /etc/pam.d/sshd, and not login.


3) what's in your logs? If you have the 'debug' flag on, something will be getting
written to - check /var/log/secure and /var/log/messages


* Bret Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1043 13:43]:
> It is here: http://www.netsys.com/pamldap/2002/04/msg00074.html
> 
> Thanks,
> Bret
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 4:31 AM
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> Cc: FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: Re: Pam_ldap
> 
> 
> * Bret Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1028 00:28]:
> > I've been trying all day to get pam_ldap to authenticate an ssh 
> > session against Active Directory.  I thought that I had found the 
> > perfect HOWTO
> > (read: one that didn't require nss_ldap), but its instructions didn't
> seem
> > to get it working on my system.
> > 
> > I've read that can authenticate to AD with pam_ldap alone, and I've 
> > read that you can't, as well.  Does anyone have any experience doing 
> > this w/o nss_ldap.  I'm running 4.10, and I don't think it has support 
> > for nss_ldap.
> > 
> > If anyone has any advice, I'd love to hear it.
> 
> You're not going to need nss_ldap if you just want to validate a password.
> But it sounds a bit odd to have existing users in /etc/passwd and only
> have the password itself from AD - and if the users don't exist in
> /etc/passwd the system won't be able to log them in.
> 
> What was the howto you used?

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Re: Your Amazon.com Order

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Re: ipfw console messages

2004-10-01 Thread Norm Vilmer
Subhro wrote:
Could we have a look at the syslof configuration file?
Regards
S.
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:09:40 -0500, Norm Vilmer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Norm Vilmer wrote:

I have been running a IPFW firewall on FreeBSD 4.10 for a few weeks
now. For some reason a few connection attempts are showing up on the
console rather than going to the log file. I can't seem to figure out
why. Any ideas?
I have tried adding the 'log' key word to every deny statement in my
IPFW firewall config file. For the most part all denied packets are
logged to /var/log/ipfw.log. But about 3-12 per night are not. These
also show up in the security run output email as kernel log messages.

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More info: my kernel is compiled with these option:
option  TCP_DROP_SYNFIN
option  ICMP_BANDLIM
option  IPFIREWALL
option  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
option  IPDIVERT
option  RANDOM_IP_ID

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I dont think it is a login problem. I made only one change to the 
syslog.conf file, I added

!ipfw
*.* /var/log/ipfw.log
Ok, I did an experiment. I added
${cmd} add 10 pass TCP from any to ${oif}
where oif is my outside/public ip.
Then I attempted an FTP connection to my public ip from
another machine.
This popped up on the console.
Connection attempt to TCP :21 from :3079 
flags:0x02

Now I get it , the message on the
console are connection attempts that get through the firewall but no
service is running on the port.
need to look at my rules
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Re: Error mounting Linux ext2fs drive

2004-10-01 Thread Damon Butler
Now here's the frustrating bit. Time has passed and the machine has been 
shut down and rebooted a few times. After that initial success, I have 
never been able to mount that [EMAIL PROTECTED] drive again. I invariably get a

   Operation not permitted
error. What gives? How can I retrieve my former happiness?
--Damon
this is the default error spewed out when the linux file system is not
clean. (I.E. it was not unmounted properly on the shutdown where it
ceased working)
This is the problem! Thank you! As soon as I rebuilt the journal (it's 
actually an ext3 filesystem) I could mount the drive again.

Happiness is a mounted hard drive.
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Terminal Services Question

2004-10-01 Thread gkullak
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 02:16:12AM -0500, Eric and Michelle Bjorkman wrote:
> Are Terminal Services supported by FreeBSD.  In that I mean is there a
> port already included that I will not have to buy a Terminal Services
> server application.  I'm looking for somthing like Novell that is free.
> Or do you know of project out there that can function like Novell?

Try reading XDM protocol that is for open XSession in another machines
like Terminal Services of Microsoft.
You must run X in your server (with XDM, KDM o GDM) and need a client like
Xmanager for Windows por example.

Like say Matthew J Seaman you must run only X application in your Windows
environment without need of run XDM in your server, only calling the
program through SSH or TELNET. Try with Xmanager too or find for PC X
Server in Google.

Sorry for my english.

Regards.


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IP - Interface Setup

2004-10-01 Thread Grant Peel
Hello all,
We have five servers. FreeBSD 4.4 on two, 4.7 on one, and 4.10 on two.
We have server IP addresses on all of them. We have came accross the 
situation where we have blocks of ips being used on more than one server. 
THe question is, for example, if I have a block of 60 IPs, 1.0.0.0 - 
1.0.0.60  with a netmask of 192, Do I need to specify that netmask on for 
the first IP on each server that uses one or more of those IPs or just the 
first one on any of the servers?

The servers are all connected to the same network segment, and are all 
behind the same switch.

TIA,
-Grant 

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RE: Platforms

2004-10-01 Thread JohnsoBS
An athlon XP is i386.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 1:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Platforms


Dear FreeBSD staff member,

I have no idea what all these platforms mean, I am especially confused by
the following 
statement: 

"operating system for x86 compatible (including Pentium and Athlon), amd64
compatible 
(including Opteron, Athlon 64"

And when I look to the left in the menu, I don't see x86 as a category. I am
currently 
employing an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ as a processor so I have no idea how to
proceed. What 
platform should I use for the processor I am using?

Thank you in advance, I am looking forward to using your OS =)

Regards,

Jimmy Koeman
Kaelthun Morganthis
Angelfeet Industries
Lead Artist
Creative Division
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Re: Backup/Restore

2004-10-01 Thread Brian McCann
I have the case where a new file is created about every second or two,
nothing gets changed, but files get deleted occasionally (it's a mail
server).  I thought of using tar, but it would be just as slow as dump
I would think.  I've thought of breaking it up into chunks, but that
still doesn't solve my speed issue...i'm beginning to consider using
dd since it reads the actual disk bits, and just hope that a)I don't
ever need one file and b) the system I restore to has at least or more
space then the original server.  Any other thoughts anyone?

Thanks again,
--Brian


On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:59:05 -0700 (PDT), Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Brian McCann wrote:
> >  Hi all...I'm having a conceptual problem I can't get around and
> > was hoping someone can change my focus here.  I've been backing up
> > roughly 6-8 million small files (roughly 2-4k each) using dump, but
> > restores take forever due to the huge number of files and directories.
> >  Luckily, I haven't had to restore for an emergency yet...but if I
> > need to, I'm kinda stuck.  I've looked at distributed file systems
> > like CODA, but the number of files I have to deal with will make it
> > choke.  Can anyone offer any suggestions?  I've pondered running
> > rsync, but am very worried about how long that will take...
> 
> Do the files change a lot, or is it more like a few files added/changed
> every day, and the bulk don't change?
> 
> If it's the latter, you could maybe get best performance from something
> like Subversion (a CVS derivative).
> 
> Though I suspect rsync would also do well in that case.
> 
> If a ton of those files are changing all the time, try doing a test on
> creating a tarball and then backing up the tarball.  That may be a simple
> managable solution.  There are probably other more complex solutions of
> which I am ignorant :-)
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Good Outlook Calendar Replacement in ports?

2004-10-01 Thread Rob
Made my doc a committment to put appointments on FreeBSD, like I used to 
do at work on Windoze.  No more missed ones LOL.

Is there a good desk app in ports that will do this? Doesnt have to be 
fancy, just work reliably.  Something that ran in background would be 
perfect.  And no- I'm not going to put them in as cron jobs  HAHA

Thanks,  Rob
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Re: Platforms

2004-10-01 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Jimmy,
Dear FreeBSD staff member,
This is a public mailing list. :-)
 I am currently
employing an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ as a processor so I have no idea how to proceed. What 
platform should I use for the processor I am using?
Get the i386 version.
Your closest ftp-mirror is probably:
ftp://ftp.nl.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/
Whatever you do, please read as much of the Handbook as you can before 
attempting an install.

HTH... Nico
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Trying to find ULE's benchmark program

2004-10-01 Thread Peter Bex
Hi list,

I'm in the process of preparing for an internship during which I will be
working on NetBSD's process scheduler.  Right now I'm gathering information
on the availability of existing scheduler benchmarking tools.

I've read Jeff Robertson's ULE paper, which mentions that a benchmarking
program was created for ULE called Late.  I would like to try this program
for my own testing and perhaps extend it a little.

According to the paper, Late can be found in the FreeBSD source tree.
I just checked out the tree using cvs (using no tags, so I assume that's
the current version), but I can't find this benchmarking program anywhere.

Could someone please give me a pointer to where I should look in the tree?
(or perhaps some other scheduler benchmarking programs you know of)

BTW, I am not subscribed to the list, so please CC me on your replies.

Thanks in advance,
Peter Bex
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Re: Platforms

2004-10-01 Thread Brent Archer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have no idea what all these platforms mean, I am especially confused by the following 
statement: 

"operating system for x86 compatible (including Pentium and Athlon), amd64 compatible 
(including Opteron, Athlon 64"

And when I look to the left in the menu, I don't see x86 as a category. I am currently 
employing an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ as a processor so I have no idea how to proceed. What 
platform should I use for the processor I am using?
You want i386 for your Athlon XP :)
For some reason the FreeBSD.org link under platforms/i386 points only to
the SMP project. I can understand your confusion. However, the 
introduction under the Platforms main link says:

	Here you will find a list of platforms that FreeBSD currently 	supports 
along with platforms currently being ported to (with the exception of 
x86, since most of the information on the remainder of the site already 
pertains to that platform).

So, everything you need to get started you can more than likely find in 
the FAQ and Handbook for your Athlon.

--bsa
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Re: broken fs dump file

2004-10-01 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 07:08 pm, ict technician wrote:
> On Thursday 30 September 2004 17:19, Malcolm Kay wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 06:15 pm, ict technician wrote:
> > > I have a broken fs dump I need to fix. Is there a diagnostic/repair
> > > tool I can use? I know about restore -N.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Dump was taken on 4.10. Restoring on 5.3BETA, although I can change
> > > that.
> >
> > A question rather than an answer:
> >   Is it valid to dump a ufs file system and try to restore it to a ufs2
> >   system?
> >
> > Malcolm
>
> wrt dump:
>   on 5.x dump has to understand ufs2. However, you might choose to use ufs;
> so it has to deal with that. Since dump does both, restore must do both.
> QED :)
>

I agree with the argument that dump must be able to dump a ufs fs
that restore can restore to a ufs fs, and that dump must be able to dump a ufs2
fs that restore can restore to a ufs2 fs.

But to dump a ufs fs and restore it to a ufs2 fs is not the same thing,
nor is it the 'normal' application for dump/restore.
Maybe this is quite a valid thing to do; I'd like to see an 'official' 
statement to that effect -- I find your argument in relation to this situation
unconvincing. Sorry about that. 

But you seem to be convinced by your investigation that the problem is elsewhere 
so at least tentitively I will accept that it is valid thing to do even though
I dismiss your argument. 

Malcolm



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Re: Platforms

2004-10-01 Thread Bill Moran
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Dear FreeBSD staff member,
> 
> I have no idea what all these platforms mean, I am especially confused by
> the following 
> statement: 
> 
> "operating system for x86 compatible (including Pentium and Athlon),
> amd64 compatible 
> (including Opteron, Athlon 64"

"x86" refers to "all platforms whose name ends in "86"", which is also
commonly called the i386 architecture, and includes the Pentium.  It also
includes technologies competing with Intel, such as AMD's series of
processors.

If you look at the list of platforms, you'll see that the other platforms
are very different from run-of-the-mill PC hardware: sparc, alpha, and the
new 64-bit versions of i386 (which aren't compatiable with i386)

> And when I look to the left in the menu, I don't see x86 as a category.
> I am currently 
> employing an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ as a processor so I have no idea how
> to proceed. What 
> platform should I use for the processor I am using?

That is an x86/i386 architecture system.

> Thank you in advance, I am looking forward to using your OS =)

Good luck, and enjoy FreeBSD.

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Platforms

2004-10-01 Thread kaelthun
Dear FreeBSD staff member,

I have no idea what all these platforms mean, I am especially confused by the 
following 
statement: 

"operating system for x86 compatible (including Pentium and Athlon), amd64 compatible 
(including Opteron, Athlon 64"

And when I look to the left in the menu, I don't see x86 as a category. I am currently 
employing an AMD Athlon XP 2200+ as a processor so I have no idea how to proceed. What 
platform should I use for the processor I am using?

Thank you in advance, I am looking forward to using your OS =)

Regards,

Jimmy Koeman
Kaelthun Morganthis
Angelfeet Industries
Lead Artist
Creative Division
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Re: Gnome very very very slow ...

2004-10-01 Thread Gregory Nou
Ok, thanks a lot, that worked (next I'll RTFM a bit more before asking
(ashamed))
I put net.inet.tcp.blackhole to 0 and as a miracle all the windows I was
waiting appeared.
Since, I can't understand, why it formerly worked.
I made gnome work without lo0 (so 127.0.0.1 was unknown ...) and with
tcp.blackhole at 2 and udp.blackhole at 1 ...



Le Ven 01/10/2004 à 12:52, Simon Barner a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I guess you have to fix your hostname:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q20
> 
> Simon

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Re: Gnome very very very slow ...

2004-10-01 Thread Simon Barner
Hi,

I guess you have to fix your hostname:

http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q20

Simon


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Re: Backup Mail Server Questions

2004-10-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 03:11:24PM -0700, Brent Wiese wrote:
 
> Is there a way to make the backup MX server understand that some mail is
> ultimately destined for it and try to deliver it locally?
> 
> Here would be an example:
> 
> Mydomain.com is MX'd to mail.mydomin.com, which handles email for all my
> users. On that server, I've set up an alias for support@ that is actually a
> forward to my ticket system box (ie: [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

So people would usually send e-mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' which
then gets automatically aliased to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'?

And you want a system like aliases, but that can rewrite destinations
based on matching stuff after the '@' sign, rather than just before it?

Hmmm... virtusertable should do the trick.  Try adding:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

to /etc/mail/virtusertable , and then run 'make' to rebuild the .db
tables.  You'll need:

FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable')

in your `hostname`.mc file, but that should already be there, as it's
a standard in freebsd.mc

This is analogous to the situation where you run a company spread over
multiple sites each with their own local mail server, but all using
the same e-mail domain: you'ld use virtusertable to redirect the
incoming e-mail to the appropriate site server for each user.

> In the event my main mail server is down, I'd like to use the
> tickets.mydomain.com box as the backup MX. Its already running SMTP to
> handle the tickets, so seems a logical choice. 

Yes, you should be able to use the tickets machine as a backup MX for
your domain as well as using the virtusertable stuff as above.
Indeed, if incoming e-mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] just happens to be
delivered to the tickets machine, you'll save a round trip to the main
server.
 
> What would be ideal is to have mail destined for support@ to be delivered
> locally. So, for example, a user can create a ticket saying the mail server
> is down (of course that is only useful if admins have off-site email
> addresses the ticket system notifies for redundancy, but that's easy
> enough).

That should work for your unix boxes where they use a local sendmail
instance for sending e-mail.  Windowzy stuff that speaks SMTP directly
to the server will need somehow to be told to connect to the backup MX
rather than the main server.  Hmmm... it may be possible to use VRRP
to do that automatically; you'ld have to experiment.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Gnome very very very slow ...

2004-10-01 Thread Grégory Nou
Hi again,

here is my new pb (well, actually I say new, but I think it's related)
I currently use Gnome, which was not fast, but after giving password in
the Gdm thing, loaded in say 20 seconds.
Now, I would say it's something like 20 minutes ...
I took my clock and and double clicked on "home" link on the desktop. I
wait for 37 minutes ...
I haven't tried another wm yet.
All this began to happen after I had to repair spwd.db 
The rest of the system has not change at all. And other applications
seems to have normal habit (less than 2 second to start)
The top doesn't show anything weird, I wasn't able to find the relevant
log file (at least there were no error on everything I looked at) and
nobody seems to had my problem according to google. Maybe there's a
devil and not a daemon in my computer :)

Thx

G.

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Re: upgrading openssl/openssh only using ports

2004-10-01 Thread Angelo Turetta
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Finn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:20 AM


> I want to upgrade OpenSSH/OpenSSL and I only want to have to use the
> ports tree to do this.  What is the best way to do this?  If possible
> I would like to over write my existing base installations of those two
> packages, or delete the base install ones if that's possible
> (preferably not by hand).  How should I do this?
>
> Thanks
> Dan

Build the ports with -DOPENxxx_OVERWRITE_BASE or, if you use portupgrade,
better put the following lines in your /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf
MAKE_ARGS section:

  'security/openssl*' => '-DOPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE',
  'security/openssh*' => '-DOPENSSH_OVERWRITE_BASE',

Then you must remember to use -DNO_OPENSSL and -DNO_OPENSSH when running
'make installworld' (I advice against using the flags during buildworld, it
gave me some problems at times)

Angelo.

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Re: nat or ......?

2004-10-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 12:36:30PM +0400, metallarch wrote:
> 
> I made the ppp connection from windows to freebsd(tun0), and from freebsd to internet
> (tun2)"at the same time"!
> I have 2 modems
> What can i do that i could browse internet on windows over freebsd?

That should certainly be feasible.

You will need to make the FreeBSD system be a gateway machine -- add:

gateway_enable="YES"

to /etc/rc.conf.

You'll need to run an instance of ppp for each modem, each with its
own separate configuration.

You will need to run NAT on the FreeBSD boxes' internet interface:
that's built into the ppp(8) server and can be specified on the
command line.

On the windows box side, all you need is the configuration that lets
you dial in as required.

Remember to adjust any firewall rulesets to allow traffic from your
windows machine out to the world at large, and for the responses to
come back again.

Running a caching recursive DNS server on the FreeBSD box would be a
good idea, as would running some sort of web proxying software,
although you will be able to get away without either of those.  Don't
expect a stellar web browsing experience from your windows box --
running through two PPP links is going to result in pretty horrendous
network latency.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: broken fs dump file

2004-10-01 Thread ict technician
On Thursday 30 September 2004 17:19, Malcolm Kay wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 06:15 pm, ict technician wrote:
> > I have a broken fs dump I need to fix. Is there a diagnostic/repair tool I
> > can use? I know about restore -N.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Dump was taken on 4.10. Restoring on 5.3BETA, although I can change that.
> >
> 
> A question rather than an answer:
>   Is it valid to dump a ufs file system and try to restore it to a ufs2
>   system?
> 
> Malcolm

wrt dump:
on 5.x dump has to understand ufs2. However, you might choose to use ufs; so
it has to deal with that. Since dump does both, restore must do both. QED :)

wrt files:
I don't think ufs2 was MFCd so you can't put a 4.x system on ufs2 and expect it
to work, if that's what you mean.

> 
> > Content is our Samba server home directories. I need to extract the data so
> > that I can copy it to our new 2k3 server. File is big (50Gb). A full
> > listing looks okay but the extract fails, apparently while skipping.
> >
> > supplementary question: How do I compile restore for debugging. I cannot
> > find 'the magic'.
> >
> > Thanks

Anyway:

Not sure it's official, but I did this:

cd /usr/src/sbin/restore
make clean
make DEBUG_FLAGS=-g

I tried again on a 4.10 box and it skips and resyncs 3 times and is missing three 
files; which
is at least consistent. 

So this looks distinctly like bad RAM. However...

md5 of the 50Gb file is consistent between the two boxes
memtest pass of 18hrs

Since the error is apparently in the "skip recovery" code, could this be a regression 
that
no-one (else) has noticed.

backup# gdb /usr/obj/usr/src/sbin/restore/restore
GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"...
(gdb) core-file restore.core
Core was generated by `restore'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.5...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.5
Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done.
Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1
#0  0x08050319 in getfile (fill=0x805070c , skip=0x805070c ) at 
/usr/src/sbin/restore/tape.c:728
728 if (readmapflag || spcl.c_addr[i]) {
(gdb) bt
#0  0x08050319 in getfile (fill=0x805070c , skip=0x805070c ) at 
/usr/src/sbin/restore/tape.c:728
#1  0x0805026a in skipfile () at /usr/src/sbin/restore/tape.c:700
#2  0x0804c809 in createfiles () at /usr/src/sbin/restore/restore.c:711
#3  0x0804a159 in main (argc=-1, argv=0xbfbfec68) at /usr/src/sbin/restore/main.c:278
(gdb) frame
#0  0x08050319 in getfile (fill=0x805070c , skip=0x805070c ) at 
/usr/src/sbin/restore/tape.c:728
728 if (readmapflag || spcl.c_addr[i]) {
(gdb) list
723 if (!gettingfile && setjmp(restart) != 0)
724 return;
725 gettingfile++;
726 loop:
727 for (i = 0; i < spcl.c_count; i++) {
728 if (readmapflag || spcl.c_addr[i]) {
729 readtape(&buf[curblk++][0]);
730 if (curblk == fssize / TP_BSIZE) {
731 (*fill)((char *)buf, (long)(size > TP_BSIZE ?
732  fssize : (curblk - 1) * TP_BSIZE + size));
(gdb) print i
$1 = 53650716
(gdb)

line no. seems consistent, value of i is not.

Cheers

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Re: Terminal Services Question

2004-10-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 02:16:12AM -0500, Eric and Michelle Bjorkman wrote:
> Are Terminal Services supported by FreeBSD.  In that I mean is there a 
> port already included that I will not have to buy a Terminal Services 
> server application.  I'm looking for somthing like Novell that is free.  
> Or do you know of project out there that can function like Novell?

The short answer is "yes".

The rather longer and more reasoned answer is that "Terminal Services"
as a distinct product is an artefact of the way Windows works.  Unix
and Linux systems (including MacOS X) have had true multiuser
capability from the start.  Similarly X windows was always designed to
be network transparent, so you can run any X application on a remote
machine and have it display on your local desktop[1].

That means that you can have a whole companies' worth of people all
logging into the same server to each run their own copy of an
application that displays on their personal desktop.  Those
applications can even include window managers or whole destop
environments if that's what you want.  No problem, so long as the
server is powerful enough.  What's more, it's just the standard way
the system works: no extra (and expensive) software required.

Cheers,

Matthew

[1] Although MacOS X doesn't use X Windows as it's native windowing
system, a) it comes with X as a standard feature and b) I believe that
you can do similar remote display things with the Cocoa layer: in
fact, it has a generic 'remote object method call' capability which
gives you even more possibilities.

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Re: Last Question On Which Release Is Best For Production

2004-10-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 10:12:36PM -0600, Michael G. Goodell wrote:

> My question is this: I currently run 5.1 (uname -a yields: 5.1-RELEASE-p17)
> and I read at the page http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html it states
> that 5.1 is Frozen and also states (not officially supported) - Does this
> mean that I am using a release that is not supported at all any longer and I
> should upgrade to 5.3 or will my 5.1 release still have security patches and
> such applied to it and eventually become production worthy. Am I just
> missing out on functionality by sticking with 5.1 and not moving up to 5.3?
> Moreover, *if* I choose to move to 5.3 (when it is ready for prime time) can
> I change my cvsupfile and then rebuild my kernel and world to the new 5.3
> release?

"5.1 is no longer supported" means that there is no guarrantee that
any security patches etc. will be applied to it.  Although individual
committers may well provide patches to 5.1 if they have the time and
the inclination, this cannot be relied upon.  Anyone still running 5.1
should upgrade as soon as possible.

5.1 will never be declared a production ready release.  First of all,
that's because it is a *RELEASE*.  Releases do not have development
work committed to them, not even to fix obvious bugs[1].  The only
things that would ever be fixed are security problems.  If you want
new code, you can either upgrade to a newer release, or track one of
the development branches (4-STABLE, 5-STABLE, CURRENT)

Secondly, it's a developer preview -- a snap shot of the upcoming 5.x
series of releases made solely for testing purposes.  Full scale
releases are guarranteed support for at least one year.  Developer
previews, on the other hand, just last until superceded by the next
preview, in this case 5.2.1-RELEASE. Even that is teetering on the rim
of consignment to the dustbin of history, with the impending
5.3-RELEASE. Right now, installing one of the 5.3-BETAs is in many
cases a better choice than installing 5.2.1-RELEASE. 5.3 however *is*
intended to be production ready, with all of the long term support
that implies.

You can use cvsup and buildworld to upgrade to 5.3-BETA right now, or
5.3-RELEASE when it becomes available.  However, you will need to read
/usr/src/UPDATING carefully, as that upgrade has a few gotchas!  It
just needs you to do some stuff you wouldn't normally do for a routine
buildworld so that everything will work smoothly.  If you're
inexperienced at using buildworld to maintain your system, make
serious consideration of just doing a reinstall from the 5.3 .iso
images.

Cheers,

Matthew

[1] With one exception: 4.10-RELEASE has been declared a 'security and
errata' branch.  All other releases are strictly 'security branches'.

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Re: Pam_ldap

2004-10-01 Thread Dick Davies
* Bret Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1028 00:28]:
> I've been trying all day to get pam_ldap to authenticate an ssh session
> against Active Directory.  I thought that I had found the perfect HOWTO
> (read: one that didn't require nss_ldap), but its instructions didn't seem
> to get it working on my system.
> 
> I've read that can authenticate to AD with pam_ldap alone, and I've read
> that you can't, as well.  Does anyone have any experience doing this w/o
> nss_ldap.  I'm running 4.10, and I don't think it has support for
> nss_ldap.
> 
> If anyone has any advice, I'd love to hear it.

You're not going to need nss_ldap if you just want to validate a password.
But it sounds a bit odd to have existing users in /etc/passwd and only have
the password itself from AD - and if the users don't exist in /etc/passwd
the system won't be able to log them in.

What was the howto you used?


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Re: Last Question On Which Release Is Best For Production

2004-10-01 Thread Simon Barner
Michael G. Goodell wrote:
> My question is this: I currently run 5.1 (uname -a yields: 5.1-RELEASE-p17)
> and I read at the page http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html it states
> that 5.1 is Frozen and also states (not officially supported) - Does this
> mean that I am using a release that is not supported at all any longer and I
> should upgrade to 5.3 or will my 5.1 release still have security patches and
> such applied to it and eventually become production worthy.

I'd say a two-fold "no". First, it's no longer a security branch, see
e.g. here  http://www.freebsd.org/security/#adv , and 5.1 is
definitively not production worthy. Lot's of improvements (regarding
stability, performance and features) went into FreeBSD 5 since then.

Just have a look at the freebsd-current mailing list archive, and see
how busy they are, and given the fact that 5.1 was released over one
year ago, you can imagine what has changed since then.

> Am I just
> missing out on functionality by sticking with 5.1 and not moving up to 5.3?
> Moreover, *if* I choose to move to 5.3 (when it is ready for prime time) can
> I change my cvsupfile and then rebuild my kernel and world to the new 5.3
> release?

Yes, but you should also rebuild all of your ports, for the following
reasons:
 - the default threading libs changed
 - a new version of gcc was imported (bringing an (binary) incompatible c++
   mangeling scheme)

You might also upgrade to FreeBSD 5.3-BETA6 now, which already is in a
very good condition, and update to 5.3-RELEASE as soon as it's released
(presumably on 17 October).

HTH,
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Re: 64-bit arithmetic in scripts?

2004-10-01 Thread Andrew
Dan Nelson has kindly explained everything:
> In the last episode (Oct 01), Andrew said:
> > Thanks! I haven't thought about using expr.
> >
> > How come that my expr(1) manpage has nothing to say about -e option?
> > In fact my expr(1) does not accept it. I have FreeBSD 4.10. I've
just
> > looked into a current manpage from www.freebsd.org, and it says
> > something about 4.x compatibility.
> >
> > What is the best way to go if I need to write scripts now, but I'm
> > planning to switch to 5.x later? Can I upgrade expr(1) now? If not,
> > what should I do?
>
> In 4.x, expr does 64-bit math by default.   Apparently POSIX requires
> that expr use whatever the systems' "signed long" size is, so the
> default was changed for 5.x, and -e was added to get the old
behaviour.
>
> If you want your script to work on both, you'll have to do a feature
> test.  I started out just testing expr and expr -e, but it sort of
> grew...  The following script will check the shell's math, two ways of
> calling expr, and finally fall back on calling bc.  As long as you
just
> use the basic math operators, quote your "*"'s, and put spaces between
> everything, all the methods should be compatible, and your script will
> work on any bourne-compatible shell :)
>
> #! /bin/sh
>
> if [ x$(( 65536 * 65536 )) = "x4294967296" ] ; then
>   shellarith() { echo $(( $@ )) ; }
>   MATH="shellarith"
> else
>   if [ x`expr 65536 "*" 65536` = "x4294967296" ] ; then
> MATH="expr"
>   else
> if [ x`expr -e 65536 "*" 65536 2>/dev/null` = x"4294967296" ] ;
then
>   MATH="expr -e"
> else
>   if [ x`echo 65536 "*" 65536 | bc` = "x4294967296" ] ; then
> bcfunc() { echo "$@" | bc ; }
> MATH="bcfunc"
>   else
> echo "Can't do 64-bit math noway nohow"
>   fi
> fi
>   fi
> fi
>
> echo "Using $MATH"
> bigval=`$MATH 65536 "*" 65536`
> echo $bigval

Thank you very much! I think, I'll just assign MATH="expr" and change it
to something else when I need it.

Best regards,
Andrew P.

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RE: IPFW Problem

2004-10-01 Thread Steven Adams
I don't have an internal network.

This is a server with 1 gigabit network card on a gig link.

Im really confussed on whats happing then, because web browsing still works
but its blocking come packets..

I host 60sites+ so I cant pin it down to one site or nothing.

Anyone have any other ideas?

Steven Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Fax: +61 2 94274857
Mobile +61 (0) 404 085644

-Original Message-
From: Subhro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 1 October 2004 12:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: IPFW Problem

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 22:32:16 +1000, Steven Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> When I add
> 
> $fwcmd add allow ip from any to any established
> 
> The messages go away, but when I remove it they come back, I ran a tcpdump
> it seems most of the packet just have ACK set?

If this works for you then the keep-state is definitely not working
for you. Because when a SYN comes in, the state is saved in the
firewall dynamic states so that subsequent ACKs corresponding to that
SYN gets through without any problem.



>===
> oif=bge0
> fwcmd=ipfw
> 
> $fwcmd -f flush
> 
> $fwcmd add check-state
> 
> $fwcmd add allow ip from any to any via lo0
> $fwcmd add deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8
> 
> $fwcmd add deny all from any to any frag in via $oif
> 
> $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to me
>
21,25,26,53,110,143,443,465,953,993,995,2082,2083,2086,2087,2089,2095,2096,2
> 627,,4-49452
> in via $oif keep-state setup
> $fwcmd add allow tcp from any to me 80 setup keep-state
> $fwcmd add allow udp from me 53 to any keep-state
> $fwcmd add allow udp from any to any 53 keep-state
> 
> $fwcmd add allow all from me to any out via $oif setup keep-state
> 
> $fwcmd add deny all from any to any 137,138,139,67,68 in
> 
> $fwcmd add deny log all from me to any 22
> $fwcmd add deny log all from any to any

change this to $fwcmd add deny log all from any to any in xmit $oif
BTW, any good reason not to trust your internal network from sending
data through the firewall?



Regards
S.

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Re: Funny one: "install" dumps core?

2004-10-01 Thread Andy Holyer
On 1 Oct 2004, at 04:49, Subhro wrote:
Its not the install script. Its basically make which is acting up.

No, it's install: when I type the install command manually I get the 
same seg fault, and the destination file is left size 0. Though I don't 
get a problem when I type install with no arguments...

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:03:04 +0100, Andy Holyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
I've managed to get the source and kernel out of sync (I blame a
confusion between "make world" and "make buildworld"). Now in trying 
to
install a port, I get "Segmentation Fault - Core dumped" when it gets
to the install process.

I could understand "ps" core dumping, but "install"? That's 
practically
a shell script! Has anyone seen this before? Any idea what the 
solution
is?

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