Re: The FreeBSD Foundation
On Friday 24 December 2004 01:07 am, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Now, as for the Foundation's status as a charity: I'll start with asking you a simple question: Setting aside the legal definitions, what in your mind IS a charity, exactly? Hey look - I don't need a lecture about charity, and I'm not disputing that the foundation is legally classified as a charity. I never said that you were disputing the legal definition. But clearly you are disputing the idea that it is a charity. Yes, I am disputing that. It is not a charity except in the tax avoidance sense of the word. You are attempting to twist the words and their meaning to support your agenda. Under your selective interpretation of the definition, one could claim virtually anything as a gift for public benevolent purposes. It's bullshit, Ted, and you may deny it here in this forum, but you know it is. In my mind, I would consider it more like a not-for-profit organization; charities are organizations that help the needy - people who can't help themselves. Well, that is why I made the Robin Hood remark. I will point out that the FreeBSD Foundation in fact uses the actual term public charity on their website. And certainly the Foundation doesen't attempt to pass itself off as using the money to help the poor. I am aware that many people don't view a charity as anything more than a needy-person-helping apparatus. However I urge you to examine your view of the idea of 'need' There are many people out there also who feel that much of the 'need' served by charities isn't really need it is choice. Many people are incensed that some charities feed alcoholic bums that spend their nights sleeping in the streets. Many would weigh the 'need' of FreeBSD to have a good Java implementation against the 'need' of an alcoholic to continue to be fed day after day without quitting drinking, and feel that the FreeBSD need was greater. alcoholic bums?! Is this another example of your interpretation of charity? Are you really asking anyone to accept you as an authority on what charity means when you refer to alcoholics as bums? In case you forgot to read the _entire_ definition of charity, Ted, try # 4: 4 : lenient judgment of others. Frankly, I find your arrogance annoying. I'll say it again: I support FreeBSD through CD purchases, and would consider an outright cash donation. I think the project is a good thing, and I also think it serves the public good. But it's not a charity, and neither is the Foundation that supports the project. I don't think you're a good spokesman for the project or the Foundation, and I wish you'd drop this thread now. Jay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
On 12/24/04 12:09 AM, Nikolas Britton sat at the `puter and typed: Chris wrote: Nikolas Britton wrote: From a business perspective we look amateurish. As opposed to, say, Microsoft? Everyone pushing this new image crap keeps forgetting one thing. This isn't a business. This is VOLUNTEERS working on their *own* time using their *own* resources to provide useful technology. Not a business. Who cares if we *look* amateurish? Anyone who can't see through the haze of Microsoft FUD to realize it's a serious OS gets what they deserve anyway. I have held off thus far... I haven't :) I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an outsider the website and Image conveys a real lack of professionalism, which is not true. No you don't - would you prefer multi-colored windows? A penguin? What? hmm?, fuck no I hate penguins (esp Linux ones), there's nothing wrong with chucky Except his name isn't Chucky. He has no name, he's just Beastie. Google it, it's come up before. And I don't really think there's a struggle between *BSD and Linux. They're both Open Source sets of projects with basically the same goal, just with different paths. And I think Beastie is still better than a penguin or a blowfish. I DO think RedHat spends a bit too much money on marketing and image, and passing that expense on to the end user in whatever way they can, and this is why they've been on the receiving end of what I consider the lowest form of insult in the market - the next Microsoft. Are we looking into the geo-political correctness as in the like as the NetBSD project took? No, just a better image in the enterprises and data centers of the world. Seems to me the datacenters around the world don't really care if they're choosing FreeBSD over WinBlows, which many are. I'm looking at the start page for FreeBSD right now and here are the things I do not like about it (please don't be offended if I step on toe's and ego's, I am only trying to better FreeBSD): Here we go - Let's just re engineer life as we know it. Lets also not offend gays, users of color, males, females, users of religion, users of no religion, users of Windows, users of Linux, users of DOS, users of NetWare, etc, etc, etc. How did you extrapolate that from what I said? I guess I did step your toe's and ego, I was only trying to give constructive criticism. Yes, maybe you were, but it's become clear in the last 3 or 4 years of following this list that constructive criticism is more welcome in relation to improving technology, not marketing strategy. 1. The FreeBSD logo is crap, I disagree completely. not beastie (he's a keeper!!!, I'll hunt you down and do bad things to you if you take him away!), I agree completely. Just the black wannabe (and badly done) 3D effect FreeBSD part, really, I hate it. Redo the whole logo in photoshop with a bold, antialiased modern web font: (Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Century Gothic, etc.) and forget the whole 3D effect as that is so 90s. Generally all of your logo designs are unprofessional (the logos at the bottom of the page: FreeBSD MALL, UseNix, Daemon News, and Powered by FreeBSD for example) You will do no such thing - see above, read the threads on the NetBSD site as to the redoing of the logo I DON'T want it redesigned (like NetBSD did) just re-done... same logo just better looking, image is everything you know. Here's your chance to offer more than just criticism - put one you like together and see if it's accepted by those in a position to make the decision. 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading Style Sheets?) Still reads the same to me. CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? No, it's a web standard: http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ also it would be a good idea to look into XHTML: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ Yes, but not a necessary technology to deliver the info. Adding those technologies to dress up the page will add to the overall size of the pages. Seems to me keeping it simple is still the best way to run a volunteer/donation based organization. I don't need the info on a silver and gilt platter, I just need the darn info. 3. The color scheme is not complementary anyone who has been to art school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read up about basic color theory here: http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever here of Cascading Style Sheets??) Again, Silver and gilt platters are only eye candy. If I need that, I'll install the xmms(?) module. Guess what mate - most of us are NOT into art. Yes I can tell, I was trying to offer some helpfull tips Uncalled for. Helpful tips like these are not always welcome because they do little but add work to the already
Re: Mystery message from mystery cron
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 24 December 2004 07:59, John Conover wrote: Root's inbox gets the message at the bottom about every half hour, or so. There is nothing in /var/cron/tabs, so I can't find out what's causing it. This runs from an entry in /etc/crontab. Inspect /var/log/cron to find out what goes wrong with the script /usr/libexec/save-entropy. - -- Christian Hiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBy9Bm09WjGjvKU74RAtgtAJ49gn5EyW93eHCdyBeg1Xabeu+FLQCfTj7Z L2KIlkPotS0Y23aMPcvLy/A= =tsAo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The FreeBSD Foundation
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:37, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: Jay Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:32 PM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation Yes - I buy from FreeBSD mall which I thought was run by Walnut Creek. I've had this subscription since 3.0 or 3.1... the cd's keep coming. I'd say if the new owners aren't giving the project the same cut as the previous owners, then maybe consider doing something else??? The story here actually begins back in 1978 when 1BSD was created by UCB's CSRG as a fork of UNIX6. The BSD project continued at UCB for snip Wow, that was a great bit of history, Ted. I love reading about the history of FreeBSD unix, almost as much as I love using FreeBSD! Cheers, -- Ian GPG Key: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/imoore/imoore.asc pgpeYlMdGZBMk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:44 pm, Nikolas Britton wrote: Michael C. Shultz wrote: I hate to see FreeBSD to something like my once favorite news site (www.antiwar.com) did. Early on they had a website that wasn't at all artistic, but they always had links to great news stories and updated those several time a day. A while back they re-did the site into a politically correct artsie fashion as you are suggestion FreeBSD do. Ever since that so called upgrade many of there links remain for days at a time and none are updated more than once a day, my guess is the site with all of its wonderful graphics is a real pain in the butt to update now. I seldom visit the site because it is no longer usefull. So for me it seems it is not the artwork that brings me to a site, rather it is the quality of content and FreeBSD's content quality is good right now, I hope no one messes it up. I agree with you there, content if the be-all end-all on the web. And I'm not suggesting we turn the freebsd site into an arty website with spiffy graphics and flash crap all over the place, in fact I want the opposite. I advocate minimalism with a clean cohesive style that doesn't get in the way of content yet conveys a professional image of who we are to outsiders and prospective users. As long as the artwork does not get in the way of content, and you don't mess with beastie I say have at it if it means so much to you. That is sort of what FreeBSD is all about, you got an idea you know will make it better and you perserver with it long enough eventually one of the *powers that be* might incorporate it. Takes patience but if you really love the OS and never give up maybe you'll be the web site designer someday. -Mike Who me?, no, I just use wiki's for my sites and edit the templates, I'm to lazy to do it any other way as It's a pain in the ass to keep an html site updated. all I have to do is login to my websites and start type'n, use it to store most of my public notes and stuff like that because it's easier then opening up a text editor. With wiki's you have built in revision control, rich text formating and easy to remember text formating rules, the ability to search in documents and for the documents you've missed placed, hyperlinking documents to documents, and can backup the database to your computer with the single click of the mouse button. If you've never tried one you should I was just trying to help freebsd buy a new suit so he can hang with the big boys, I don't even know how or why this thread got started but... Anyone who messes with beastie is a dead man! if you don't like him you know where the door is at, don't let it hit you in the ass on the way out. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
On Friday 24 December 2004 01:09 am, Nikolas Britton wrote: [snipped] As long as the artwork does not get in the way of content, and you don't mess with beastie I say have at it if it means so much to you. That is sort of what FreeBSD is all about, you got an idea you know will make it better and you perserver with it long enough eventually one of the *powers that be* might incorporate it. Takes patience but if you really love the OS and never give up maybe you'll be the web site designer someday. -Mike Who me?, no, I just use wiki's for my sites and edit the templates, I'm to lazy to do it any other way as It's a pain in the ass to keep an html site updated. I made this point earlier, you just gave a pretty good reason to leave the site alone IMHO. all I have to do is login to my websites and start type'n, use it to store most of my public notes and stuff like that because it's easier then opening up a text editor. With wiki's you have built in revision control, rich text formating and easy to remember text formating rules, the ability to search in documents and for the documents you've missed placed, hyperlinking documents to documents, and can backup the database to your computer with the single click of the mouse button. If you've never tried one you should I was just trying to help freebsd buy a new suit so he can hang with the big boys, FreeBSD is the big boy. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Who me?, no, I just use wiki's for my sites and edit the templates, I'm to lazy to do it any other way as It's a pain in the ass to keep an html site updated. I've kept quiet up until now but I'm afraid I have to step in and respectfully disagree here. If a site is hard to update, that indicates poor design and lack of forethought rather than anything else. XHTML, CSS and a little bit of PHP or Perl are all that is needed to create a clean, beautiful and above all, maintainable site. As a nice example, take a look at this site to see how minimal and readable XHTML can be if done properly (look at the source): http://www.csszengarden.com/ Plain HTML is often mistakenly viewed as simpler and easier but that couldn't be further from the truth. A combination of XHTML and CSS allows you to seperate formatting from page arrangement and make your life much easier. :) Have a good christmas, list. :) Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3
I did it on a 5.2.1 machine and loaded Exim from the ports tree. That gives full instructions on what to turn off/on in the rc.conf and a little rc script to start exim at boot. What's not working? -- Martin On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:47:15 -0800, comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated document. Thanks! == -comm rwx.ca ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems booting my computer
A few days ago I tried to compile and install FreeBSD 5.3-p2 from a FreeBSD 5.3-p1 Everething worked until I wanted to make installword. I switched to single mode, and during the installation my computer stoped and shaw me a error (I don't remember it). I had to reboot, and booting process stopped with some hexadecimal characters and with the string BTX Halted. I downloaded the second disc of FBSD 5.3 release, and I could fix the disk, and I could copy /boot/kernel directory from cd to my disk. But when I try to boot up my computer it stops with this message: Mounting root from ufs: /dev/ad1s1a pid 49 (sh), uid 0: exited on signal 4 Dec 23... init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to single user mode Enter root password, or ^D to go multi-user Password: Enter full path name for shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: And it doesn't matter what type of shell I want to use, it stops with the same message (pid # (...), uid 0: exited ...) What can I do? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail running on localhost 25?
Hello, Use: sendmail_enable=none This will disable all sendmail processes. On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:55 pm, John Conover wrote: I just installed 5.2.1, and after installing qmail, I still have sendmail running on localhost 25; even though I have sendmail_enable=NO in /etc/conf. Where is it launched? I don't see it in any /etc/rc* files. Thanks, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java [was: Re: Switching FreeBSD machines]
Skylar Thompson wrote: On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 12:20:09PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: to give you a confidence boost, I very recently built jdk14 on a 5.3-RELEASE machine *by the instructions*, and it built without problems, and apps were able to find it afterwards. If that's all that's keeping from starting from scratch, don't worry about java; it's not that bad. Does anyone know if JDK1.5 is going to be supported by FreeBSD? I have some JDK1.5 apps that I've written for Linux that I would like to run on FreeBSD. I've been unsuccessful in getting JDK1.5 running through Linux emulation too. Alexey Zelkin just announced on [EMAIL PROTECTED] that he had succeeded in porting JDK-1.5 to the extent that it is now self-hosting: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-java/2004-December/003286.html Public beta testing releases are expected in January. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3
comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated document. In my experience, it should be pretty straightforward. There are a couple of things which are not done automagically by the port, IIRC - * adding the lines exim_enable=YES sendmail_enable=NONE to /etc/rc.conf * editing /etc/mail/mailer.conf to read something like sendmail /usr/local/sbin/exim send-mail /usr/local/sbin/exim mailq /usr/local/sbin/exim -bp newaliases/usr/bin/true hoststat/usr/local/sbin/sendmail purgestat /usr/local/sbin/sendmail * killing the sendmail daemon and starting exim (use /usr/local/etc/rc.d/exim.sh start to start exim) There may be a few other things you need to do, but the port tends to remind you of such things along the way. Running the install from a script(1) session is useful too, just in case useful messages scroll off the top of the screen too quickly. The port also supplies nice and straightforward instructions to add spam and virus filtering to the delivery process. Nice for those of us serving Microsoft desktops. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ First, we kill all the spammers The Usenet Bard, Twice-forwarded tales ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows?
Brian Astill wrote: On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:13 am, Matthew Seaman wrote: Ah. A crucial bit of information that was missing from the original post. Standard practice in that case is to create a partition on the system with a filesystem that both OSes can read and write. Between Windows and FreeBSD that boils down to msdosfs, or in Windows-speak FAT32. (FAT12 and FAT16 are also supported, but why on earth would you want to use them if FAT32 works?) Sounds fine - BUT! M$ being M$ even different versions of Windoze cannot read different M$ files. eg WinNT cannot read FAT32. The NTFS in XP is different from that in WinNT. Other versions of Windoze cannot read either of the NTFS versions. The only universal is FAT16, which limits you to 2G partitions. So ... if your flavour of Windoze can read FAT32, a FAT32 partition is a very good idea because all the commonly-available unices can read it as well. If it can't ... the options aren't so good. I'd think ext2 would be the only workable alternative to FAT16, but neither is desirable. BTW, I haven't found one, but does anyone have a way to make WinNT read FAT32? You know, every time I think I'm becoming too cynical about the Windows world, all I need to do is read a post like this, and remind myself that it is impossible to be /too/ cynical about Windows. The only possible reason M$ could have for withdrawing FAT32 support completely from their product line is to make it harder for people to interoperate with free-Unixoid systems. A move which must be based on the arrogant belief that they have the world clasped so firmly by the short-and-curlies that it will do /anything/ other than give up using Windows. That is a very curious idea. People want their computers to interoperate. There's a huge effort going into making that happen in the Free-Unix world. If M$ starts trying to remove all of the functionality that permits that, then one day they are going to wake up and find that their userbase has decamped to running the sort of systems where they can actually get stuff done... It would be comical if it wasn't so tragic. M$ needs to learn the lessons of history: there have been any number of corporate giants who have achieved some sort of transitory pre-eminence in computing and then faded right away. (Where is DEC nowadays? Just a small part of a sub-division of HP) And the start of their downfall was because they tried to lock their customers into their proprietary systems, instead of competing on equal terms. Anyhow, this really is getting off-topic for [EMAIL PROTECTED] and should have gone to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead. Followup-to: set appropriately. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
LoadBalancer With FreeBSD
Hi Everybody , Do you know any load balancer program for FreeBSD like linux LVS . I checked ports and find out morebalance-0.3 and loadd-0.8 ?! Anybody use those programs?! I want make a load balance on my frontend servers ?! Could you give me advise about using hardware-load-balancer or software-load-balancer ?! And I wonder How many connection can handle FreeBSD box ?! Because hardware load-balancer can up to 2.000.000 connection per box. I think that with PIII and 512 machine I can handle ?! Thanks Vahric MUHTARYAN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems booting my computer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 24 December 2004 11:18, Darksidex wrote: A few days ago I tried to compile and install FreeBSD 5.3-p2 from a FreeBSD 5.3-p1 Everething worked until I wanted to make installword. I switched to single mode, and during the installation my computer stoped and shaw me a error (I don't remember it). I had to reboot, and booting process stopped with some hexadecimal characters and with the string BTX Halted. I downloaded the second disc of FBSD 5.3 release, and I could fix the disk, and I could copy /boot/kernel directory from cd to my disk. But when I try to boot up my computer it stops with this message: Mounting root from ufs: /dev/ad1s1a pid 49 (sh), uid 0: exited on signal 4 Dec 23... init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to single user mode Enter root password, or ^D to go multi-user Password: Enter full path name for shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: You can try to run the statically linked version of sh and try to repair your system. It's path is /rescue/sh. Possibly ld-elf.so.1 is missing in /libexec. I would try to mount the disc2.iso and copy it from there. In worst case I would copy /bin, /lib, /libexec, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/lib, /usr/libexec (eventually /usr/libdata and /boot) from the live-filesystem-cd over to your system. Before you start to copy the files over, run the command '/rescue/chflags -R noschg *' on each of the paths in question to remove all system immutable flags). After your have fixed your system, re-cvsup sources and do a rebuild and reinstall of world and kernel. - -- Christian Hiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] | OpenPGP KeyID 0x3BCA53BE OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBy/1J09WjGjvKU74RAl4VAJwKM4kuVXFVQDdH3dNc6m+JdB1SCgCcCkxe aAtJdPgj3Azu/LC1qGG05N0= =dwiM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Armada 17xx, ACPI thermal management broken.
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 03:09:14AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote: When I try it with Linux it worked, in fact, here is a patch for kernel 2.6.7: https://kilobyte.dyndns.info/linux/armada_1700_dsdt_linux-2.6.7.diff.bz2 Ok, I will test this on my 1750 right after christmas, as soon as I find the time. merry christmas! Uwe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:27:31 +0100 jsha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes and users to the rest of the world. You know that you write this a t a time where a lot of people are visiting their family and don't have email access or don't read the mailinglists? At least this is the case for a lot of FreeBSD committers. Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time for a complete revamp of the visual aesthetics of the FreeBSD project. Even if a lot of committers won't/can't answer now: there are people which agree with you (maybe not all, but you know what we say about bikesheds, don't you?). The current logo and everything pertaining to it has long since lost its modern touch. I believe that if this image is strenghtened, so is the way outsiders view the FreeBSD project and the way they would judge it compared to other open source operating systems. 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks We had an discussion a while ago about this. The way I understand the conclusion is: we have a mascot, but no logo (we may use our mascot like other people use a logo ATM). And we want to keep the mascot. We may be interested in a logo, but a logo is a bikeshed topic. Since we're more developers than designers, nobody stepped up to proceed on this topic (at least I don't know about it if someone proceeded further). If you want to put your energy into creating a logo, there will be people which listen to you. like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very disappointed when I heard that the new NetBSD logo was in effect. This is a little bit harsh. I suggest to stay with facts and suggestions. Keep such rants for your personal pleasure, we don't need them. 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy -- without being ugly. The doc team is progressing in this direction... at least if I read the content between the lines of commit logs right. I think they try to separate the content from the design at the moment (the prerequisite to use the full power of CSS). I suggest to get in contact with them to not reinvent the wheel. 3. The installation, even though it's text-only, could also be improved by simple restructuring to act more cognitive and human-centered than previously. Everything pertaining to the eye is important to improve. Yes. AFAIK the Freesbie project is integrating the bsdinstaller (the installer DragonFly uses) ATM. We will see how this works out and depending on this there may be interest to integrate the installer into FreeBSD. 4. There should be some kind of FreeBSD business card and letterhead available to all that support this project. Even if there are some people which don't think this is needed, I like this idea. In may day to day job I'm working as a consultant, so I know where/how/why this may be beneficial (or not). How do I know though, that if I manage to pull together a team to work on this refined vision, that we won't be totally ignored even though we produce the most magnificent result? We can't guarantee that any of your work will be adopted, but I don't think your work will be ignored (be prepared to get a lot of critique... positive and negative one). Bye, Alexander. -- The best things in life are free, but the expensive ones are still worth a look. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD Jails Perl: Reading /proc ...
I'm trying to read /proc/*/status, specifically to find what processes belong to what jail ... but, doing 'direct views' on it tends to generate errors since processes come-n-go ... So, I loaded p5-Proc-ProcessTable, since it looked the closest to what I'm looking for, but it doesn't report 'hostname': uid: 80 gid: 80 pid: 21271 ppid: 21267 pgrp: 21267 sess: 21267 flags: noflags utime: 73.00 stime: 331.00 time: 404.00 wchan: lockf start: 1101753695.00 euid: 80 egid: 80 fname: httpd state: lockf ttydev: ttynum: -1 cmndline: /usr/local/sbin/httpd priority: 0 Not sure how hard it would be to add this to Proc::ProcessTable ... but is there another way that I should be doing this? Thanks ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikolas Britton wrote: 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading Style Sheets?) CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? Actually, no. Nikolas is right here. The sans serif fonts look much better and are more readable on the monitor. Times looks better on paper. 3. The color scheme is not complementary anyone who has been to art school or taken design classes will know what I talking about, read up about basic color theory here: http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html (again, ever here of Cascading Style Sheets??) Guess what mate - most of us are NOT into art. Get real. Deal with the OS, not the look and feel of the site. Do I really care if a design has passion blue opposed to blue? The fact that we don't know a lot about art and design is not a good excuse for reacting badly to anyone that says so. Nikolas, there is an effort to redesign the web site, using CSS as much as possible for style layout, making sure that the entire site has a consistent look and feel. Your comments show that you know a bit about design. If you believe you can help with such an effort, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and assist the team who works on the web site. Do you really thing techies are THAT into pastels? If you want to re design something (Actually - is sounds like you have been watching way too much TLC) then get a gig on Monster House. 4. I like the Beastie logo on the boot loader screen but ASCII art is unprofessional... It would be better if you made the color ASCII beastie the default. Who cares?!?! It's resource friendly tho... ``Who cares?'' is exactly the sort of bad PR that Nikolas is right about. Please avoid inflammatory material, if possible :-/ Nikolas, there is a good reason why the ASCII art logo is not using colors by default. Many people use FreeBSD with a serial console, and sending colors over a serial port connection is a bit silly: annoying an a waste of precious serial connection bandwidth. This is why the loader logo doesn't use fancy colors by default. - Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is this new hard drive going to be useless with freebsd?
Good day, I currently have this setup at home and its working fine with FreeBSD 4.10. Motherboard: Jetway 830CH Hard Drive: 10 Gb Samsung Video Card: SiS on-board Processor:AMD Athlon 1200 Mhz (this is not an Athlon XP) Memory: 256 mb PC100 SDRAM I bought a new 80 Gb Seagate 7200 rpm Hard Drive and installed it on the primary master my pc. The access mode for my hard drive Primary Master: ST380011A in BIOS which shows these choices is set to Auto: CHS LBA Large Auto I boot into FreeBSD 5.3 cd and proceed with the installation. Some time after choosing the X-User in the installation method, it ended up failing to install some packages(perl and xorg). Still, it says, Congratulations... FreeBSD is now installed... (and I'm really hoping that nothing went wrong with the base system, and thinking to just install perl and xorg later). I removed the cd, and boot the pc. The kernel boots silently until this error message showed up: ad0 Warning_Read_DMA UDMA ICRC error(retrying request) LBA=1518639 ad0: Failure_Read_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84 ICRC, ABORTED LBA=1518639 spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure:(error=5) bp0xc65fe2ec vp0xc16f7d68 size: 32768,resid:32768,a_count:37268, valid: 0x0 nread:0, reqpage:7, pindex:61, pcount:8 vm_fault:pager read error, pid 55(sh) pid 55(sh),uid 0:exited on signal 11 Dec 24 17:28:39 init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to single user mode Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: After pressing return key, the same error message appeared. I tried reinstalling it again but this time, I selected LBA access mode in BIOS. I also choose minimal installation. It successfully installed withouth any package extraction or cd read error problem. Again, I removed the cd, rebooted the pc praying that this time I will be able to see some login prompt... then waiting... and waiting... and then.. Grrr!! Waaa! ad0 Warning_Read_DMA UDMA ICRC error(retrying request) LBA=1518639 ad0: Failure_Read_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84 ICRC, ABORTED LBA=1518639 spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure:(error=5) bp0xc65fe2ec vp0xc16f7d68 size: 32768,resid:32768,a_count:37268, valid: 0x0 nread:0, reqpage:7, pindex:61, pcount:8 vm_fault:pager read error, pid 55(sh) pid 55(sh),uid 0:exited on signal 11 Dec 24 17:28:39 init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to single user mode Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: Do you know what's causing this problem. I'm thinking maybe my new hard drive is not compatible with my other pc peripherals (because I have 5.3 running on the same hard drive specs in my office workstation but together with a newer board and processor). I haven't tried installing FreeBSD 4.10 on it yet, because I'm really looking forward to using 5.3. I really need some good advice here. I can't afford to upgrade the rest of my pc because its like a chain reaction, once I upgrade the board..., the processor, memory and video card shall have to be upgraded too due to compatibility issues. Any cheeper idea? Thank you very much for any advice. I'm really hoping to be able to use my new hard drive soon. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel page faulting
Alright, I'm a step forward in getting this 486 upgraded from 5.0 to 5.3 but things aren't getting any easier. For those that don't remember, I've been trying to build a kernel and world on my Pentium 4 and install it on a 486 but make was calling a bad system call while installing the new kernel. Well the old make was calling the new one in /usr/obj which was compiled for the new kernel. Since I didn't have it installed yet, I compiled the new make for the old kernel and managed to installkernel. I wish I could say that's where the problems ended. When I rebooted to the new kernel, it dumped a lot of information to the screen and rebooted. It was too fast for me to read, but I did catch the last line which said page fault. I set dumpdev in loader.conf but it didn't dump the core. I guess it hadn't reached the point where it could yet. Now I think this is because I'm compiling on a 686 for a 486 because the kernel on the 686 is from the same source code and works fine. I put CPUTYPE=i486 in my make command and even halted the compilation to verify it was passing -march=i486 to gcc. Yet it still page faults... I tried setting NO_CPU_CFLAGS too but same thing. I've been struggling with this computer for about a week now. If anyone can help me get this kernel and world installed, I would be extremely grateful. __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ppbus programming / porting freenomad to FreeBSD
Hi all, I'm trying to port 'freenomad' (an abandoned sourceforge project) from Linux to FreeBSD. The software uses the Linux parallel port framework (parport) to setup a simple IEEE 1284 ECP session. It seems like the equivalent functionality is provided by FreeBSD's ppbus(4). However, I can't find any documentation/example code for using ppbus from a userland application. Specifically, the Linux app does the following: 1. open(/dev/parport0, O_RDWR) 2. Claim the port (Linux ioctl PPCLAIM) 3. Negotiate ECP (Linux ioctl PPNEGOT with arg. IEEE1284_MODE_ECP) Before reading or writing it sets the parallel port direction 4. ioctl( fd, PPDATADIR, direction ) (direction=0/1) 5. write() or read() using the handle returned by open() On exit 6. Release the port: ioctl( fd, PPRELEASE ) 7. close(fd) I need to find the equivalent code for FreeBSD and would appreciate any pointers you might have. Thanks, Nimrod. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash - superuser
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:54:51PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: Then the thing to do is create another root account and make the default shell for that one be bash, leaving the root root be /bin/sh. So for those of us that want to go back to the way things should be, (leaving root shell be /bin/sh) I fire up vipw and change this: root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/usr/local/bin/bash to this: root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/sh Right? Then I keep using sudo all the time. But if I need to do some big work as root, I can su to root and get bash simply by typing: /usr/local/bin/bash Right? Just want to be clear on this. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager
On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page =1 I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb -Uu. It errored out, telling me that I shouldn't use my refuse file that stopped the non- english docs and ports from being loaded on my HD. In trying to understand this issue, I found portmanager, and it looks like it would perform the same function as portupgrade. My questions: Is there a way around the refuse file prohibition, perhaps with portmanager? Does portmanager replace portupgrade? portmanager doesn't require the INDEX files to keep ports up to date, so the refuse file is a non issue with it. -Mike Sounds good. What's the downside, if any, to using portmanager instead of portupgrade? All of your ports will be built with the correct dependencies, they will work better leaving you less to complain about in the mail lists and so you will become bored. Because everything is working exactly as it should you may begin to think you are a Maytag repair man, nothing much to do, just always setting around waiting for something to break. I don't use portmanager myself, but isn't it the case that portmanager rebuilds not just ports that have newer versions in the ports tree, but also all ports that recursively depend on those ports. I just updated kdehier with portupgrade in about a minute. The whole of KDE depends on kdehier, so presumably portmanager would have taken several days, and kdehier isn't particularly unusual. I would see that as a major downside. When it's necessary UPDATING will suggest running portupgrade -rf to force rebuilding. That kind of UPDATING entry is in a small minority, which suggests to me that most of the problems with ports don't stem from the sequence of their updating, so I can't see how portmanager is any kind of magic-bullet. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pioneer DVR-108 can burn DVDs, can't mount them!
Hi Ian, What do you mean by when you say you mount them as a SCSI device. Which device is that? Thanks, On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:22:16 +1030, Ian Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:58, David Vincelli wrote: Hi, I'm using FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE with a custom kernel I just compiled a few days ago to have the atapicam device (the only difference with the stock kernel). I added hw.ata.atapi_dma=1 to /boot/loader.conf, and indeed the device is accessed in UltraDMA mode 2. My DVD burner is a Pioneer DVR-108 with the latest firmware at this time (1.18). I can burn DVDs using growisofs but I get a vague input/output error when I try to mount them. (mount failed: input/output error, if I recall correctly). The command I use to mount is: mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt. It seems I cannot mount DVDs at all, even originals. I was wondering if the drive was defective so I tried it under a windows environment and it could read the DVDs fine, even the ones I created under FreeBSD. I'd give you a full listing of the full error that would swamp the (real) console when I tried to mount the DVDs but I don't have access to the box right now. It was a scsi error. asq 8,3 is one of them from what I remember :) Has anyone seen this before? Hi Vince, I bought the same DVD drive a few weeks ago it works just fine on my 5.3-RELEASE system. I can watch DVDs, mount a DVD-ROM I've burnt a DVD-RW successfully. There's nothing special in my kernel except ATAPICAM support. I mount it as a SCSI device, so maybe it's worth trying that on your system? Cheers, -- Ian GPG Key: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/imoore/imoore.asc -- David Vincelli ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pioneer DVR-108 can burn DVDs, can't mount them!
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:28:20AM -0500, David Vincelli wrote: Hi, I'm using FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE with a custom kernel I just compiled a few days ago to have the atapicam device (the only difference with the stock kernel). I added hw.ata.atapi_dma=1 to /boot/loader.conf, and indeed the device is accessed in UltraDMA mode 2. My DVD burner is a Pioneer DVR-108 with the latest firmware at this time (1.18). I can burn DVDs using growisofs but I get a vague input/output error when I try to mount them. (mount failed: input/output error, if I recall correctly). The command I use to mount is: mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt. It seems I cannot mount DVDs at all, even originals. I was wondering if the drive was defective so I tried it under a windows environment and it could read the DVDs fine, even the ones I created under FreeBSD. I'd give you a full listing of the full error that would swamp the (real) console when I tried to mount the DVDs but I don't have access to the box right now. It was a scsi error. asq 8,3 is one of them from what I remember :) Could you paste the command you used to burn your DVDs ? Marc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash - superuser
On Friday 24 December 2004 09:53 am, Andy Firman wrote: On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:54:51PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: Then the thing to do is create another root account and make the default shell for that one be bash, leaving the root root be /bin/sh. So for those of us that want to go back to the way things should be, (leaving root shell be /bin/sh) I fire up vipw and change this: root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/usr/local/bin/bash to this: root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/sh Right? Then I keep using sudo all the time. But if I need to do some big work as root, I can su to root and get bash simply by typing: /usr/local/bin/bash Right? Just want to be clear on this. Thanks. I think that should do it. If you wanted root to use bash all the time, couldn't you compile/install a static version into /bin/? I've never done it; but I know that NetBSD has some statically linked shells in their ports (pkgsrc) that install to /bin/, so I would think it should be possible. Best of luck, Andrew Gould ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is this new hard drive going to be useless with freebsd?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Jayson Alvarez Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 20:27 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is this new hard drive going to be useless with freebsd? Good day, I currently have this setup at home and its working fine with FreeBSD 4.10. Motherboard: Jetway 830CH Hard Drive: 10 Gb Samsung Video Card: SiS on-board Processor:AMD Athlon 1200 Mhz (this is not an Athlon XP) Memory: 256 mb PC100 SDRAM I bought a new 80 Gb Seagate 7200 rpm Hard Drive and installed it on the primary master my pc. The access mode for my hard drive Primary Master: ST380011A in BIOS which shows these choices is set to Auto: CHS LBA Large Auto I boot into FreeBSD 5.3 cd and proceed with the installation. Some time after choosing the X-User in the installation method, it ended up failing to install some packages(perl and xorg). Still, it says, Congratulations... FreeBSD is now installed... (and I'm really hoping that nothing went wrong with the base system, and thinking to just install perl and xorg later). I removed the cd, and boot the pc. The kernel boots silently until this error message showed up: ad0 Warning_Read_DMA UDMA ICRC error(retrying request) LBA=1518639 ad0: Failure_Read_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84 ICRC, ABORTED LBA=1518639 spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure:(error=5) bp0xc65fe2ec vp0xc16f7d68 size: 32768,resid:32768,a_count:37268, valid: 0x0 nread:0, reqpage:7, pindex:61, pcount:8 vm_fault:pager read error, pid 55(sh) pid 55(sh),uid 0:exited on signal 11 Dec 24 17:28:39 init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to single user mode Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: I suspect a bad Drive Cable. Could you tell us about how you have installed the drives? I mean master slave-configuration,etc Regards S. Indian Institute of Information Technology Subhro Sankha Kar Block AQ-13/1, Sector V Salt Lake City PIN 700091 India smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: sendmail running on localhost 25?
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 03:26:15AM -0700, James typed: Hello, Use: sendmail_enable=none This will disable all sendmail processes. This will also disable those annoying daily, weekly and montly messages recieved from cronjobs. Who wants to read about your disks filling up, attempts to break into your server and other futilities anyway ;-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Great suggestions, everyone! Now, can we PLEASE move this thread off of -questions. It doesn't belong here. Thank you. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail running on localhost 25?
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 03:26:15 -0700, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Use: sendmail_enable=none This will disable all sendmail processes. Please don't top-post. Also, the above is deprecated, and the pertinent documentation shows the following: sendmail_enable=NO sendmail_submit_enable=NO sendmail_outbound_enable=NO sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is this new hard drive going to be useless with freebsd?
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:42:32 +0530, Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Jayson Alvarez Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 20:27 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is this new hard drive going to be useless with freebsd? Good day, I currently have this setup at home and its working fine with FreeBSD 4.10. Motherboard: Jetway 830CH Hard Drive: 10 Gb Samsung Video Card: SiS on-board Processor:AMD Athlon 1200 Mhz (this is not an Athlon XP) Memory: 256 mb PC100 SDRAM I bought a new 80 Gb Seagate 7200 rpm Hard Drive and installed it on the primary master my pc. The access mode for my hard drive Primary Master: ST380011A in BIOS which shows these choices is set to Auto: CHS LBA Large Auto I boot into FreeBSD 5.3 cd and proceed with the installation. Some time after choosing the X-User in the installation method, it ended up failing to install some packages(perl and xorg). Still, it says, Congratulations... FreeBSD is now installed... (and I'm really hoping that nothing went wrong with the base system, and thinking to just install perl and xorg later). I removed the cd, and boot the pc. The kernel boots silently until this error message showed up: ad0 Warning_Read_DMA UDMA ICRC error(retrying request) LBA=1518639 ad0: Failure_Read_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84 ICRC, ABORTED LBA=1518639 spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure:(error=5) bp0xc65fe2ec vp0xc16f7d68 size: 32768,resid:32768,a_count:37268, valid: 0x0 nread:0, reqpage:7, pindex:61, pcount:8 vm_fault:pager read error, pid 55(sh) pid 55(sh),uid 0:exited on signal 11 Dec 24 17:28:39 init: /bin/sh on /etc/rc terminated abnormally, going to single user mode Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: I suspect a bad Drive Cable. Could you tell us about how you have installed the drives? I mean master slave-configuration,etc Or it could be a problem with the broken DMA on 5.3 that countless others have posted to this list about? -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3
On 24 Dec 2004 11:33:53 +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated document. In my experience, it should be pretty straightforward. There are a couple of things which are not done automagically by the port, IIRC - * adding the lines exim_enable=YES sendmail_enable=NONE to /etc/rc.conf Although this is deprecated. Please use the following rather than sendmail_enable=NONE: sendmail_enable=NO sendmail_submit_enable=NO sendmail_outbound_enable=NO sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
does FreeBSD support nvidia ethernet?
Hello, Gurus. I have EPOX 8rda3 motherboard based on nvidia2 chipset with 2 ethernet interfaces. One is well known -- rtl8139. It works (great). The other is based on nvidia chipset. And I do not know what to do to activate it in FreeBSD. What driver support this ethernet interface. Thanks, Alexei ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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como activar el scroll del mouse ps/2. How activate ps/2 mouse scroll - ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I think there's more FreeBSD installations than Apple installations, way, way more. Obscurity is in the eye of the beholder. And talk is cheap. The FreeBSD documentation team has already asked the FreeBSD community to do a site redesign, see here: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html#website-css Nobody has stepped up to do it. Since your so hot to redesign the site why don't you e-mail them and get going on doing it instead of talking about it? Errr... Not so. Admittedly, this was posted just a few days ago, but people are working on CSS-izing the FreeBSD.org web site: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2004-December/006616.html Elsewhere on this thread there has been some talk about organizing a design competition to see who can come up with the best concept for the site. Strikes me that a good way to do that would be along the lines of this competition to redesign the W3.org site: http://w3mix.web-graphics.com/entries.php ie. take the existing content and write a style sheet to present it in the best possible way. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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como activar el scroll del mouse ps/2. How activate ps/2 mouse scroll - ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Matthew Seaman wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I think there's more FreeBSD installations than Apple installations, way, way more. Obscurity is in the eye of the beholder. And talk is cheap. The FreeBSD documentation team has already asked the FreeBSD community to do a site redesign, see here: http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/current.html#website-css Nobody has stepped up to do it. Since your so hot to redesign the site why don't you e-mail them and get going on doing it instead of talking about it? Errr... Not so. Admittedly, this was posted just a few days ago, but people are working on CSS-izing the FreeBSD.org web site: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2004-December/006616.html Elsewhere on this thread there has been some talk about organizing a design competition to see who can come up with the best concept for the site. Strikes me that a good way to do that would be along the lines of this competition to redesign the W3.org site: http://w3mix.web-graphics.com/entries.php ie. take the existing content and write a style sheet to present it in the best possible way. Cheers, Matthew I'm going to be drawing up the rules for the competition soon. I think the best way to do it would indeed be to just create an HTML 4.01 Strict-compliant page and ask people to do CSS for it -- as might be done for csszengarden.com. Kind regards, Devon H. O'Dell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pioneer DVR-108 can burn DVDs, can't mount them!
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 11:09:51AM -0500, David Vincelli wrote: Exactly as from the handbook. I blanked a DVD-RW using: # dvd+rw-format -blank=full /dev/cd0 I burned a DVD-RW, using: # growisofs -Z /dev/cd0 -J -R /usr/backup and I tried a DVD+R, using: # growisofs -Z /dev/cd0 -J -R /usr/backup Note that I can't mount regular DVDs either (the only thing I had on hand was a ms Office 2003 DVD). You mean you cannot mount any DVDs? You use something like: mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /cdrom or mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom ? Could you try with hw.ata.atapi_dma=0 in /boot/loader.conf Marc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash - superuser
On Friday 24 December 2004 16:06, Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Friday 24 December 2004 09:53 am, Andy Firman wrote: On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:54:51PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: Then the thing to do is create another root account and make the default shell for that one be bash, leaving the root root be /bin/sh. So for those of us that want to go back to the way things should be, (leaving root shell be /bin/sh) I fire up vipw and change this: root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/usr/local/bin/bash to this: root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/sh Right? Then I keep using sudo all the time. But if I need to do some big work as root, I can su to root and get bash simply by typing: /usr/local/bin/bash Right? Just want to be clear on this. Thanks. I think that should do it. If you wanted root to use bash all the time, couldn't you compile/install a static version into /bin/? I've never done it; but I know that NetBSD has some statically linked shells in their ports (pkgsrc) that install to /bin/, so I would think it should be possible. Best of luck, Andrew Gould I've always been curious as to why you can't(shouldn't?) just change the shell that root uses. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help
How activate ps/2 mouse scroll Add following lines into your XF86Config in section InputDevice. Option Buttons 5 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 -- Danny Koenig BSD User Group Berlin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pioneer DVR-108 can burn DVDs, can't mount them!
That's exactly what I mean (I can't mount any DVDs at all). I tried with both devices, they both fail. mount: Input/Output error. I'll try with dma disabled on atapi devices (I assume hw.ata.atpai_dma=0 means disable dma for atapi devices) when I have access to the box - it's at work and the office is closed. I think some chipset on my motherboard is left uncofigured though. I'll post the dmesg when I get back to work (jan 3rd). I'll also post that lovely error message. Thanks for your help. On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:42:57 +0100, Marc Fonvieille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean you cannot mount any DVDs? You use something like: mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /cdrom or mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom ? Could you try with hw.ata.atapi_dma=0 in /boot/loader.conf Marc -- David Vincelli ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: your mail
Lilith B. extolled: como activar el scroll del mouse ps/2. How activate ps/2 mouse scroll If the mouse itself works, but the mouse scroll wheel does not, just add the following to your mouse definition in your X config file: Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Example Mouse definition (Logitech USB Scroll mouse): Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection -- ___ Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. === Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. = Contents: I:Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction === This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the questions (the hackers). Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions == When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (obviously, substitute your mail address for [EMAIL PROTECTED]). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send how to questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since then, I have changed it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I were to try to remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD. Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager
RW wrote: On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page =1 I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb -Uu. It errored out, telling me that I shouldn't use my refuse file that stopped the non- english docs and ports from being loaded on my HD. In trying to understand this issue, I found portmanager, and it looks like it would perform the same function as portupgrade. My questions: Is there a way around the refuse file prohibition, perhaps with portmanager? Does portmanager replace portupgrade? portmanager doesn't require the INDEX files to keep ports up to date, so the refuse file is a non issue with it. -Mike Sounds good. What's the downside, if any, to using portmanager instead of portupgrade? All of your ports will be built with the correct dependencies, they will work better leaving you less to complain about in the mail lists and so you will become bored. Because everything is working exactly as it should you may begin to think you are a Maytag repair man, nothing much to do, just always setting around waiting for something to break. I don't use portmanager myself, but isn't it the case that portmanager rebuilds not just ports that have newer versions in the ports tree, but also all ports that recursively depend on those ports. I just updated kdehier with portupgrade in about a minute. The whole of KDE depends on kdehier, so presumably portmanager would have taken several days, and kdehier isn't particularly unusual. I would see that as a major downside. When it's necessary UPDATING will suggest running portupgrade -rf to force rebuilding. That kind of UPDATING entry is in a small minority, which suggests to me that most of the problems with ports don't stem from the sequence of their updating, so I can't see how portmanager is any kind of magic-bullet. So portmanager rebuilds whether it needs it or not, and portupgrade only rebuilds when there is a later distribution of the software? The distinction between the two is not clear to me. This is my first try to update ports, and I want to set up a procedure for updating that I can follow in the future. Jay ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help
Geo B. wrote: como activar el scroll del mouse ps/2. How activate ps/2 mouse scroll - ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Add this option to the xorg(xfree) conf file Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash - superuser
On Dec 24, Josh Paetzel launched this into the bitstream: On Friday 24 December 2004 16:06, Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Friday 24 December 2004 09:53 am, Andy Firman wrote: On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:54:51PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: Then the thing to do is create another root account and make the default shell for that one be bash, leaving the root root be /bin/sh. So for those of us that want to go back to the way things should be, (leaving root shell be /bin/sh) I fire up vipw and change this: root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/usr/local/bin/bash to this: root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/sh Right? Then I keep using sudo all the time. But if I need to do some big work as root, I can su to root and get bash simply by typing: /usr/local/bin/bash Right? Just want to be clear on this. Thanks. I think that should do it. If you wanted root to use bash all the time, couldn't you compile/install a static version into /bin/? I've never done it; but I know that NetBSD has some statically linked shells in their ports (pkgsrc) that install to /bin/, so I would think it should be possible. Best of luck, Andrew Gould I've always been curious as to why you can't(shouldn't?) just change the shell that root uses. Josh that's been the backbone of this particular thread over the last few days. I'd check the archives and follow the entire thread all the way through, in order to view the (rather eloquent) arguments for and against that have been posted. FWIW (and that's maybe not much) at installation time I use the default shell when su'd, but when I get a new box up and reasonably configured I switch root shell to bash. Notwithstanding all the reasons raised wherein it's thought that you shouldn't I've honestly never run into a problem with it - thus far anyway. If eventually I do, well there y'go I guess, I'll rethink the matter through if (or when) the bad things happen. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash - superuser
On Friday 24 December 2004 10:52 am, Josh Paetzel wrote: -snip- I've always been curious as to why you can't(shouldn't?) just change the shell that root uses. I think it has to do with the fact that some shells executables are in /bin and others are in /usr/local/bin. Root users should use a shell in /bin so that if something goes wrong and the /usr partition doesn't get mounted during bootup, root can still use its default shell. Andrew Gould ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mkfifo: No such file or directory
I want to use my printer which is on a windoze computer to use on my intire network ( most FreeBSD computers ) so I read this http://www.freebsddiary.org/samba.php . As it is explained I did: mkfifo /dev/smbprint but I got this : bash-3.00# cd /dev/ bash-3.00# mkfifo smbprint mkfifo: smbprint: No such file or directory bash-3.00# Why can't I make an extra fifo ? Frank Staals ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:02:30 -0800, Jay O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RW wrote: On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html?page =1 I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb -Uu. It errored out, telling me that I shouldn't use my refuse file that stopped the non- english docs and ports from being loaded on my HD. In trying to understand this issue, I found portmanager, and it looks like it would perform the same function as portupgrade. My questions: Is there a way around the refuse file prohibition, perhaps with portmanager? Does portmanager replace portupgrade? portmanager doesn't require the INDEX files to keep ports up to date, so the refuse file is a non issue with it. -Mike Sounds good. What's the downside, if any, to using portmanager instead of portupgrade? All of your ports will be built with the correct dependencies, they will work better leaving you less to complain about in the mail lists and so you will become bored. Because everything is working exactly as it should you may begin to think you are a Maytag repair man, nothing much to do, just always setting around waiting for something to break. I don't use portmanager myself, but isn't it the case that portmanager rebuilds not just ports that have newer versions in the ports tree, but also all ports that recursively depend on those ports. I just updated kdehier with portupgrade in about a minute. The whole of KDE depends on kdehier, so presumably portmanager would have taken several days, and kdehier isn't particularly unusual. I would see that as a major downside. When it's necessary UPDATING will suggest running portupgrade -rf to force rebuilding. That kind of UPDATING entry is in a small minority, which suggests to me that most of the problems with ports don't stem from the sequence of their updating, so I can't see how portmanager is any kind of magic-bullet. So portmanager rebuilds whether it needs it or not, and portupgrade only rebuilds when there is a later distribution of the software? The distinction between the two is not clear to me. I believe that what the responder was trying to get across is that portmanager handles the dependencies for you, where portupgrade will only handle dependencies if you spcify the appropriate flags on the command line, such as: # portupgrade -rR This is my first try to update ports, and I want to set up a procedure for updating that I can follow in the future. I've used portupgrade much more than portmanager. Portupgrade has never steered my wrong, when I have read /usr/src/UPDATING and followed the proper procedures. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: does FreeBSD support nvidia ethernet?
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:38:51 +0300, alexei kozlov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Gurus. I have EPOX 8rda3 motherboard based on nvidia2 chipset with 2 ethernet interfaces. One is well known -- rtl8139. It works (great). The other is based on nvidia chipset. And I do not know what to do to activate it in FreeBSD. What driver support this ethernet interface. I believe the appropriate driver lives in: /usr/ports/net/nvnet -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash - superuser
On 2004-12-24 15:38, Colin J. Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 24, Josh Paetzel launched this into the bitstream: I've always been curious as to why you can't(shouldn't?) just change the shell that root uses. Josh that's been the backbone of this particular thread over the last few days. I'd check the archives and follow the entire thread all the way through, in order to view the (rather eloquent) arguments for and against that have been posted. FWIW (and that's maybe not much) at installation time I use the default shell when su'd, but when I get a new box up and reasonably configured I switch root shell to bash. Notwithstanding all the reasons raised wherein it's thought that you shouldn't I've honestly never run into a problem with it - thus far anyway. If eventually I do, well there y'go I guess, I'll rethink the matter through if (or when) the bad things happen. There is a case that even a statically linked bash may fail, leaving you with a system that can only boot in single user mode: - When the system ABI changes in a way that ports *are* broken, even if compiled statically. The system ABI (application binary interface) may change in an incompatible way only if you're running CURRENT and the internals of some library change drastically. This should *never* affect the binaries built as part of the recommended buildworld/buildkernel cycle, which means that /bin/csh and /bin/sh should still work. Applications compiled from the Ports _may_ break though. Even if statically linked. Having said that, I have been using `exec bash -l' as the first command after I su to root for a long time now, and it only broke once (when the stdin/stdout/stderr changes where made to libc). - Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 04:27:51PM -0500, Brian Astill wrote: Could this conversation please be moved to -advocacy and ONLY to -advocacy? Seconded. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Error sending email with mutt
On 2004-12-24 13:04, Alfredo Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am running freebsd 5.3 Release I am trying to send emails with Mutt and I am getting this message: SMTP 552 sorry, You envelop sender domain must exist Does anybody knows what it means and how I can fix it? Add this option to your .muttrc file: set envelope_from=yes # set envelope-from address from From: header See if that fixes the problem. You are probably trying to post with mutt through the MTA of your machine without having a resolvable host/domain. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated document. snip Although this is deprecated. Please use the following rather than sendmail_enable=NONE: sendmail_enable=NO sendmail_submit_enable=NO sendmail_outbound_enable=NO sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO Where do you see this: sendmail_enable=NONE labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to be the case, in the documentation I have accessed. To the OP: the query you make is an FAQ, and the basic answers are in the Exim documentation, with a specific section on FreeBSD. You can find the answers by installing the HTML docs via the port, or at exim.org. Do you have the docs for exim installed on your local machine? The two questions you will likely need are 9201 and 9202, as well as the handbook documentation telling you how to change your MTA. That is in chapter 22. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS fstab and ipfw
Hi all, I can't boot my machine with out using the noauto switch on my nfs mount, presumeably, because ipfw has'nt set up a tule to allow lo0 access. I have read some things about nfs_mount and wonder if the -i -s switch can be used in fstab on the nfs mount, or if there exists a switch that can be used to allow it to try to mount the nfs in the background and allow the sytem to continue booting. -Grant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:17:57 -0500, Joe Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated document. snip Although this is deprecated. Please use the following rather than sendmail_enable=NONE: sendmail_enable=NO sendmail_submit_enable=NO sendmail_outbound_enable=NO sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO Where do you see this: sendmail_enable=NONE labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to be the case, in the documentation I have accessed. I 'see this' in man rc.sendmail(8): sendmail_enable (str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system boot time. If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon to listen for incoming network mail. This does not preclude a sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback interface. The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be used. It will be removed in a future release. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mkfifo: No such file or directory
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 06:16:06PM +, Frank Staals wrote: I want to use my printer which is on a windoze computer to use on my intire network ( most FreeBSD computers ) so I read this http://www.freebsddiary.org/samba.php . As it is explained I did: mkfifo /dev/smbprint but I got this : bash-3.00# cd /dev/ bash-3.00# mkfifo smbprint mkfifo: smbprint: No such file or directory bash-3.00# Why can't I make an extra fifo ? You forgot to mention what version of FreeBSD you're running; if it's 5.x, you can't create random files in /dev because it's not a general-purpose filesystem (i.e. the documentation you're reading is out of date). Kris pgp2Ec31RCYyX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: NFS fstab and ipfw
On 2004-12-24 13:25, Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I can't boot my machine with out using the noauto switch on my nfs mount, presumeably, because ipfw has'nt set up a tule to allow lo0 access. I have read some things about nfs_mount and wonder if the -i -s switch can be used in fstab on the nfs mount, or if there exists a switch that can be used to allow it to try to mount the nfs in the background and allow the sytem to continue booting. That doesn't sound right. The order of the rc.d scripts is set up to allow NFS mounts: : gothmog:/root# rcorder /etc/rc.d/* | egrep -e 'ipfw|mount' : /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal : /etc/rc.d/ipfw : /etc/rc.d/mountcritremote : /etc/rc.d/mountd : gothmog:/root# Are you sure you are not blocking NFS mounts in your firewall ruleset? - Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gnome-cd: connecting to cddb server as user
Freebsd 4.11-pre, gnome-lite 2.8.1. using gnome-cd to listen to cd's in my user acct, but it wont connect to the cddb server to pull down cd info. It does when I do it as root, however. The only error I see is this: ** (gnome-cd:671): WARNING **: could not contact cddb server how to fix --Karl _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 12:31:37PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:17:57 -0500, Joe Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated document. snip Although this is deprecated. Please use the following rather than sendmail_enable=NONE: sendmail_enable=NO sendmail_submit_enable=NO sendmail_outbound_enable=NO sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO Where do you see this: sendmail_enable=NONE labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to be the case, in the documentation I have accessed. I 'see this' in man rc.sendmail(8): sendmail_enable (str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system boot time. If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon to listen for incoming network mail. This does not preclude a sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback interface. The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be used. It will be removed in a future release. You mean this man rc.sendmail? RC.SENDMAIL(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual NAME rc.sendmail -- sendmail(8) startup script DESCRIPTION The rc.sendmail script is used by /etc/rc at boot time to start sendmail(8). It is meant to be sendmail(8) specific and not a generic script for all MTAs. Contrast with the handbook entry, for changing the MTA for a given machine: 22.4 Changing Your Mail Transfer Agent 22.4.4 Replacing sendmail as the System's Default Mailer Which addresses the OPs original request, I think: ...some documentation to fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I don't interpret the NONE directive as deprecated, for the mailer.conf wrapper, which is what should be used to ...fully move... from sendmail to Exim, AFAICT. man mailer.conf and man mailwrapper. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:05:30 -0500, Joe Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 12:31:37PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:17:57 -0500, Joe Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: comm/JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated document. snip Although this is deprecated. Please use the following rather than sendmail_enable=NONE: sendmail_enable=NO sendmail_submit_enable=NO sendmail_outbound_enable=NO sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO Where do you see this: sendmail_enable=NONE labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to be the case, in the documentation I have accessed. I 'see this' in man rc.sendmail(8): sendmail_enable (str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system boot time. If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon to listen for incoming network mail. This does not preclude a sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback interface. The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be used. It will be removed in a future release. You mean this man rc.sendmail? RC.SENDMAIL(8) FreeBSD System Manager's Manual Yes, man rc.sendmail(8). I guess I'm really not sure what your malfunction is, Joe. What do you not understand about 'deprecated' and 'will be removed in a future release'? BTW, I really don't care to discuss it any further; if you have any additional information for the OP, by all means, give it. Otherwise, have a happy holiday, and drop it. -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS fstab and ipfw
I may have left out a key piece of info: I am not using a ipfw.rules sh script. I am using Webmin, which loads the ipfw.rules in the rc.local file. I don't know alot about the order of operations as far as the rc files go, but assume the rc.local is of the last ones to run, likely after mounts normally take place. Are there any background or timeout switches that can be used on nfs mounts in the fstab? -Grant - Original Message - From: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 1:53 PM Subject: Re: NFS fstab and ipfw On 2004-12-24 13:25, Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I can't boot my machine with out using the noauto switch on my nfs mount, presumeably, because ipfw has'nt set up a tule to allow lo0 access. I have read some things about nfs_mount and wonder if the -i -s switch can be used in fstab on the nfs mount, or if there exists a switch that can be used to allow it to try to mount the nfs in the background and allow the sytem to continue booting. That doesn't sound right. The order of the rc.d scripts is set up to allow NFS mounts: : gothmog:/root# rcorder /etc/rc.d/* | egrep -e 'ipfw|mount' : /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal : /etc/rc.d/ipfw : /etc/rc.d/mountcritremote : /etc/rc.d/mountd : gothmog:/root# Are you sure you are not blocking NFS mounts in your firewall ruleset? - Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager
On Friday 24 December 2004 07:54 am, RW wrote: On Friday 24 December 2004 07:38, Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:16 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 23 December 2004 10:01 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote: I'm running 5.3 RELEASE and trying to learn. I did a ports cvsup. Following the Dru Lavigne article on portupgrade at http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html? page =1 I installed portupgrade and then ran portsdb -Uu. It errored out, telling me that I shouldn't use my refuse file that stopped the non- english docs and ports from being loaded on my HD. In trying to understand this issue, I found portmanager, and it looks like it would perform the same function as portupgrade. My questions: Is there a way around the refuse file prohibition, perhaps with portmanager? Does portmanager replace portupgrade? portmanager doesn't require the INDEX files to keep ports up to date, so the refuse file is a non issue with it. -Mike Sounds good. What's the downside, if any, to using portmanager instead of portupgrade? All of your ports will be built with the correct dependencies, they will work better leaving you less to complain about in the mail lists and so you will become bored. Because everything is working exactly as it should you may begin to think you are a Maytag repair man, nothing much to do, just always setting around waiting for something to break. I don't use portmanager myself, but isn't it the case that portmanager rebuilds not just ports that have newer versions in the ports tree, but also all ports that recursively depend on those ports. That is indeed the case with portmanager. Sometimes it is a waste of time to rebuild everthing when a dependency changes, and sometimes it is the right thing to do, portmanager assumes it is always the right thing to do. One way this has proved to be a benefit is I've never had to run the special scripts when gnome is updated because after running portmanager everything is already up to date. I just updated kdehier with portupgrade in about a minute. The whole of KDE depends on kdehier, so presumably portmanager would have taken several days, and kdehier isn't particularly unusual. I would see that as a major downside. Here is from misc/kdehier/pkg_descr: Utility port which installs a hierarchy of common KDE directories So what if this port changes the location of some KDE directories? If you don't also update KDE then add or update something like kdepim, maybe kdepim will expect files in one place due to kdehier but kdelibs will have them in another because you never rebuilt kdelibs when kdeheir changed locations around. So even if kde takes several days to build, so what, I still use my system no problem for other things while portmanager is running, when its done I'll restart X or reboot to get all the new libraries loaded and press on. In the past year I've never had so much as one kde app crash where when I used portupgrade it was a fairly regular occurrence. While I don't personally use gnome I keep it on my system, and when ever I see everyone complaining that it doesn't work I give it a try, and it always does for me. As far as UPDATING goes, the first entry in it is 20040204, from that point to today the only thing I've had to follow in it is was the change to mpeg4ip 2004. When it's necessary UPDATING will suggest running portupgrade -rf to force rebuilding. That kind of UPDATING entry is in a small minority, which suggests to me that most of the problems with ports don't stem from the sequence of their updating, so I can't see how portmanager is any kind of magic-bullet. Perhaps you should actually try it instead of just assuming. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS fstab and ipfw
Please don't post the reply on top of what you're replying and trim your replies a bit, keeping only what's relevant :-/ On 2004-12-24 14:11, Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2004-12-24 13:25, Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't boot my machine with out using the noauto switch on my nfs mount, presumeably, because ipfw has'nt set up a tule to allow lo0 access. That doesn't sound right. The order of the rc.d scripts is set up to allow NFS mounts: : gothmog:/root# rcorder /etc/rc.d/* | egrep -e 'ipfw|mount' : /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal : /etc/rc.d/ipfw : /etc/rc.d/mountcritremote : /etc/rc.d/mountd : gothmog:/root# Are you sure you are not blocking NFS mounts in your firewall ruleset? I may have left out a key piece of info: Indeed. I am not using a ipfw.rules sh script. I am using Webmin, which loads the ipfw.rules in the rc.local file. I don't know alot about the order of operations as far as the rc files go, but assume the rc.local is of the last ones to run, likely after mounts normally take place. Then it's webmin that's giving you trouble. This is *NOT* a good way to load the firewall rules. The rc.local script runs always after all the other startup scripts have finished. This is too late in the boot sequence to load firewall rules, because network services may have bumped into problems with the default firewall policy already. The carefully crafted set of dependencies that the startup scripts use ensures that this won't happen, but you have to work *with* the system and not against it as webmin does. I think I understand why a web-based interface would find it easier to bypass the canonical way of setting up a firewall ruleset with FreeBSD, but it still sucks a bit. One way to load the ipfw rules at the right moment is to load ipfw from the /etc/rc.conf file: firewall_enable=YES firewall_quiet=YES firewall_logging=YES firewall_type=/etc/ipfw.rules Then write your rules in /etc/ipfw.rules just as you would pass them to the command line of ipfw(8), i.e.: add pass udp from any to any via fxp0 This will load the firewall rules *before* any attempt to mount NFS shared directories is made, and it will all Just Work(TM). Are there any background or timeout switches that can be used on nfs mounts in the fstab? Read the mount_nfs(8) manpage. Pay careful attention to the description of the -b option :-) Note that forking off a background process that will attempt to asynchronously mount a filesystem is NOT good for all the filesystems. It may be useful at times, but it's dangerous to use for filesystems like /usr or /var. If you fork off a mount_nfs process in /etc/rc.d/mountcritremote and let that script finish ``normally'', the rest of the startup scripts will assume that /usr is already mounted and attempt to access files within it. They will, of course, fail miserably and you'll end up with an incomplete or half-working boot. Definitely, not a good idea. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dell WLAN 1450 laptop wireless card driver needed
I'm looking for a driver that supports the Dell Wireless WLAN 1450 Dual- Band card for laptops. If anyone can point me in the right direction, please let me know. Thanks in advance! Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army. * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mkfifo: No such file or directory
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 06:16:06PM +, Frank Staals wrote: I want to use my printer which is on a windoze computer to use on my intire network ( most FreeBSD computers ) so I read this http://www.freebsddiary.org/samba.php . As it is explained I did: mkfifo /dev/smbprint but I got this : bash-3.00# cd /dev/ bash-3.00# mkfifo smbprint mkfifo: smbprint: No such file or directory bash-3.00# Why can't I make an extra fifo ? You forgot to mention what version of FreeBSD you're running; if it's 5.x, you can't create random files in /dev because it's not a general-purpose filesystem (i.e. the documentation you're reading is out of date). Kris I am running 5.3 Stable, how can I configure FreeBSD that I can use the printer on the windows pc Frank ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mkfifo: No such file or directory
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 21:08:19 +, Frank Staals [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running 5.3 Stable, how can I configure FreeBSD that I can use the printer on the windows pc Please read the official documentation: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing.html -- Joshua Lokken Open Source Advocate ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome-cd: connecting to cddb server as user
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 11:02 -0800, Karl Agee wrote: Freebsd 4.11-pre, gnome-lite 2.8.1. using gnome-cd to listen to cd's in my user acct, but it wont connect to the cddb server to pull down cd info. It does when I do it as root, however. The only error I see is this: ** (gnome-cd:671): WARNING **: could not contact cddb server how to fix What messages are printed to stdout/stderr when this happens? Make sure that ~/.cddb* are all owned by you. If things are still failing, get a binary sniffer trace of the CDDB conversation. Joe --Karl _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Text Filter
Hi, Where can I get advanced Text Filter for printer Dell AIO A960 . Thanks, Leon. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Printer
Hi, I have tried to configure printer by KDE. When I start to print it gave me an error: The rlpr executable could not be found in you path. Check your installation. What should I do? What should I install? Where I can find this file? Thanks, Leon. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash - superuser
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: This is a particularly tenacious rumour. I've been using bash as my root shell on many different UNIX platforms for nearly 14 years, and I've never had any problems. I've also never seen any substantiated problems reported anywhere. Besides, when your favourite shell is hosed, you most likely cannot log in anyways, since usually root login is disabled for sshd. And then it's about the only case when it's getting tough.. when it's a machine that's hosted somewhere in a rack at a hosing provider, probably one of the most common situations today in business environments. When one has physical access to the machine, it's a non-issue. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Answers: Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date
Three weeks ago I posted notification of my article Keeping FreeBSD Up-To-Date. Today I am happy to announce the publication at TaoSecurity.com of Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date: http://www.taosecurity.com/keeping_freebsd_applications_up-to-date.html The new article takes the same case-based approach I used in the first paper. The article's sections include: - Introduction - Installation Using Source Code - Installation Using the FreeBSD Ports Tree - Installation Using Precompiled Packages - Updating Applications Installed from Source Code - Updating Packages by Deletion and Addition - Updating the Ports Tree, Part 1 - Manually Updating a Package Using the Ports Tree - Updating Packages with Portupgrade, Part 1 - Updating Packages with Portupgrade, Part 2 - Updating the Ports Tree, Part 2 - My Common Package Update Process - Creating Packages on One System and Installing Them Elsewhere - Addressing Security Issues in Packages - Conclusion - Acknowledgements - References Sections show commands to run, explanations of what they do, sample output, applications versions, and pros and cons of each upgrade method. Please send feedback to taosecurity at gmail dot com. Thank you, Richard Bejtlich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: checksum mismatch on hicolor-icon-theme-0.5
I had downloaded the latest version (hicolor-icon-themes-0.5.tar.gz), and it was even the exact same size as the file that Ports was requesting, so I didn't think that redownloading it would do any good. Well, out of desperation, I did (delete the current file and download a new one), and that fixed everything. I don't know why or how, but it did. Thanks for your help! Chandler On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:28:19 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 12:20:26PM -0800, Chandler May wrote: Hi, I've been unable to compile a very large number of programs because of a checksum mismatch on hicolor-icon-theme-0.5.tar.gz. If you already have a local copy of this file, you may need to remove it and re-fetch an updated copy. Use 'make distclean' from the port directory to remove all distfiles for the port so you can re-fetch them. Ports refuses to connect to any FTP or HTTP servers for the download, Verify that your ports collection is complete and up-to-date. This kind of problem is usually fixed very quickly. and will not recognize the file when I download it manually and put it in distfiles. Are you sure you're putting it in the right directory? Compare carefully to the error message. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FAQ: What constitutes an inappropriate posting? Was: Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:11:31PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote: I guess I'm really not sure what your malfunction is, Joe. What do you not understand about 'deprecated' and 'will be removed in a future release'? BTW, I really don't care to discuss it any further; if you have any additional information for the OP, by all means, give it. Otherwise, have a happy holiday, and drop it. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/article.html#ETIQUETTE 2 Mailing List Etiquette 2.2. What constitutes an inappropriate posting? Personal attacks are discouraged. As good net.citizens, we should try to hold ourselves to high standards of behavior. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
portupgrade time, xorg ports
Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM. This is my first experience using portupgrade. I ran cvsup successfully for ports-all. I ran pkg_version -v. It showed a total of 28 ports, 20 needed updating. Of those, 16 were xorg- ports; the others were xterm, freetype2, imake and png. I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times to fetch X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz, each time taking over an hour, and when the file failed, it failed showing a checksum mismatch. I tried it again today, and it was able to fetch the three remaining files. SLOW. I have a DSL connection, and usually see 1.5MB speeds or more. Two of the files came in at 6kBps, one at 26 kBps. This Portupgrade session, including downloading the files detailed below, took 3 hours and 38 minutes; 1.5 hours was spent just downloading the three files. From the script file of the session: = X11R6.8.1-src(#).tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg. = Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R6.8.1/tars/ files fetched and time for download: filesizeend speedtime X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz29MB 6510 Bps 80 min X11R6.8.1-src6.tar.gz 3106kB 6298 Bps 8 min X11R6.8.1-src2.tar.gz 5672kB 26 kBps 4 min I have two questions: -Is this typical to see such slow download speeds and for the portupgrade process to take so much time? -I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present? Jay O'Brien Rio Linda, California USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports
Jay O'Brien wrote: hi, Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM. - cut for brevity -I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present? a fresh FreeBSD 5.3 has xorg by default instead of XFree86 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Answers: Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:14:16 -0500, Richard Bejtlich wrote Three weeks ago I posted notification of my article Keeping FreeBSD Up-To-Date. Today I am happy to announce the publication at TaoSecurity.com of Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date: http://www.taosecurity.com/keeping_freebsd_applications_up-to-date.html The new article takes the same case-based approach I used in the first paper. The article's sections include: - Introduction - Installation Using Source Code - Installation Using the FreeBSD Ports Tree - Installation Using Precompiled Packages - Updating Applications Installed from Source Code - Updating Packages by Deletion and Addition - Updating the Ports Tree, Part 1 - Manually Updating a Package Using the Ports Tree - Updating Packages with Portupgrade, Part 1 - Updating Packages with Portupgrade, Part 2 - Updating the Ports Tree, Part 2 - My Common Package Update Process - Creating Packages on One System and Installing Them Elsewhere - Addressing Security Issues in Packages - Conclusion - Acknowledgements - References Sections show commands to run, explanations of what they do, sample output, applications versions, and pros and cons of each upgrade method. Please send feedback to taosecurity at gmail dot com. Thank you, Richard Bejtlich Hi Richard, It looks good. It's nice to have a piece of documentation regarding this subject all on one page. However, you should be aware that most information, if not all, can be found in the handbook as well. I truely praise the handbook, but it's size can be rather annoying when to find something. It has an online search function, of course, but for offline use it can be a little maze from time to time. So I like things like this. It has similair quality of the handbook but all subjects in one page. Great. However, it would be nice if you actually wrapped the text to make it readable. Preferably based on resolution if possible. And it requires some cosmetic attention as well. Type commands in differen colours, for example. Make important notes larger, use a different colour again, or give them a special font. Also, it would be nice if you went a little bit deeper into the commands. For example, you use portugrade -varR. Elaborate what they do. At least, I would like to know it if I was the newbie reading it. Other then that, it looks fine. I didn't read everything though, but from what I've seen it looks nice. Cheers, Jorn. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Supported CDRW listing for 5.3
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:11:04 -0600 Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to be in the market for a new CDRW soon - I thought there was a list of supported devices. There certainly isnt a mention in the 5.3 Hardware Notes. Nearly any CDRW drive should work. My only suggestions is to advoid liteon. I've seen many problems with liteon drives having problems spining up to speed. I have a DVD+CDRW combo that works nicely. It will flake occasionally if hw.ata.atapi_dma=1. Forget what type and dmesg just shows it as CDRW ATAPI COMBO48XMAX/VER 1.10, but it is nice. I also have a nice Toshiba DVDR drive. In dmesg it shows up as DVDR TOSHIBA ODD-DVD SD-R5272/1030. It great. Not had any problem with it what so ever. I would really suggest in looking into a drive like this. More room, fast, and pretty cheap now. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDM problems on fresh install of 5.3
Hi, I just installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a Dell Latitude, and installation went without a hitch. While trying to configure KDM for graphical login, though, I ran into some problems. startx works fine as both root and as a regular user. However, when I run KDM and enter my username and password all that loads is another instance of KDM. This is very frustrating. The same issue occurs when I try XDM, so I think the problem is with BSD and not KDE. I've searched around for a solution to this, and though I've seen that a lot of other people have had the same problem, I have not found any help solving it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash - superuser
--On Friday, December 24, 2004 6:53 AM -0900 Andy Firman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So for those of us that want to go back to the way things should be, (leaving root shell be /bin/sh) I fire up vipw and change this: root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/usr/local/bin/bash to this: root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/sh Right? Correct. Then I keep using sudo all the time. But if I need to do some big work as root, I can su to root and get bash simply by typing: /usr/local/bin/bash Right? Correct. However, there's one more thing you need to know. When you use su, if you type % su, you become root, but you are using *your* path. If you want to use root's path, type %su -. That makes you root *with* root's path, and makes things much easier for you. Then just type % bash at the prompt, and you are using bash as your shell. The only gotcha (if you want to call it that) is that you have to type % exit twice to stop being root - once to get out of bash, and the second time to exit your su - session. Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:54:04PM -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote: I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times to fetch X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz, each time taking over an hour, and when the file failed, it failed showing a checksum mismatch. I tried it again today, and it was able to fetch the three remaining files. SLOW. I have a DSL connection, and usually see 1.5MB speeds or more. Two of the files came in at 6kBps, one at 26 kBps. This Portupgrade session, including downloading the files detailed below, took 3 hours and 38 minutes; 1.5 hours was spent just downloading the three files. From the script file of the session: = X11R6.8.1-src(#).tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg. = Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R6.8.1/tars/ files fetched and time for download: filesizeend speedtime X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz29MB 6510 Bps 80 min X11R6.8.1-src6.tar.gz 3106kB 6298 Bps 8 min X11R6.8.1-src2.tar.gz 5672kB 26 kBps 4 min I have two questions: -Is this typical to see such slow download speeds Sometimes; it's not unusual for a popular ftp site to be heavily loaded. There are various variables you can set to control fetching from different sites; see the ports(7) manpage and the comments in bsd.port.mk. and for the portupgrade process to take so much time? X is a large set of applications, so it's going to take a little while to compile it all :-) -I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present? I don't understand what you're asking here. Kris pgpmUhip9lJCM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mkfifo: No such file or directory
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 09:08:19PM +, Frank Staals wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 06:16:06PM +, Frank Staals wrote: I want to use my printer which is on a windoze computer to use on my intire network ( most FreeBSD computers ) so I read this http://www.freebsddiary.org/samba.php . As it is explained I did: mkfifo /dev/smbprint but I got this : bash-3.00# cd /dev/ bash-3.00# mkfifo smbprint mkfifo: smbprint: No such file or directory bash-3.00# Why can't I make an extra fifo ? You forgot to mention what version of FreeBSD you're running; if it's 5.x, you can't create random files in /dev because it's not a general-purpose filesystem (i.e. the documentation you're reading is out of date). Kris I am running 5.3 Stable, how can I configure FreeBSD that I can use the printer on the windows pc I don't know, you should try to read the samba documentation or ask for help in a samba forum. Kris pgpq50b16bHXX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Answers: Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date
--On Friday, December 24, 2004 4:14 PM -0500 Richard Bejtlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three weeks ago I posted notification of my article Keeping FreeBSD Up-To-Date. Today I am happy to announce the publication at TaoSecurity.com of Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date: http://www.taosecurity.com/keeping_freebsd_applications_up-to-date.html Richard, I'd like to thank you for all the work you do on behalf of the community creating documentation for FreeBSD users. I greatly appreciate it. I'd also like to thank Matthew Seaman, Joshua Lokken, and all the other regulars who contribute so much, selflessly, to help those of us who are still apprentices. You may not hear it often, but the work you do, without any compensation other than thanks like this, is greatly appreciated. Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ifconfig for WLAN using WEP
--On Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:49 AM -0600 Scott Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As it turns out, this was the right question to ask, for which I thank Paul. Glad I was able to help. I interpret the above as meaning that the Broadband interface is the dial-up interface, the Local Area interface is the real Ethernet interface (not connected physically), the 1394 interface is the infrared port as Ethernet- over-FireWire (fwe0), and the Dell 1450 card is indeed the wireless interface. Looking through the boot messages from FreeBSD 5.2.1, I don't see anything that looks like the Dell wireless card being detected. I've looked through all the man pages for the various interface types and haven't seen anything that looks appropriate. If anyone reading this can suggest what to do next, please do. What happens when you type % ifconfig wi0 up and then type % ifconfig? Do you see the interface? Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dell WLAN 1450 laptop wireless card driver needed
--On Friday, December 24, 2004 1:54 PM -0600 Scott Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a driver that supports the Dell Wireless WLAN 1450 Dual- Band card for laptops. If anyone can point me in the right direction, please let me know. It's probably the wi driver, which should be in the default build of modern FreeBSD. Look at man wi(4) and man wicontrol(8). What do you see when you type % wicontrol -i wi0 -o? Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Text Filter
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:46:48 -0500 Leon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Where can I get advanced Text Filter for printer Dell AIO A960 Check out the apsfilter port. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CUPS server
Hi, How can I check if SUPS server is running? If it is not running , how can I Install it, and configure? Thanks, Leon. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikolas Britton wrote: 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading Style Sheets?) CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? Actually, no. Nikolas is right here. The sans serif fonts look much better and are more readable on the monitor. Times looks better on paper. Times New Roman was designed for a single purpose: to remain readable even when smudged or printed on low-quality paper. It does not really look good on any medium, but it's less bad than most other fonts on newsprint. Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this discussion. Responding to Nikolas: Arial and Verdana are Windows fonts which is not necessarily installed on www.freebsd.org's readers' machines (though it is available in ports). Conversely, Helvetica is generally not available in Windows. CSS defines 'sans-serif' as a generic alias for whichever sans-serif font looks best on each particular platform (it maps to Arial in Windows, and Helvetica or similar in X); likewise, it defines 'serif' as a generic alias for serif fonts (it maps to Times New Roman in Windows, and a variety of Roman fonts in X depending on the browser and on what fonts are available). DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tarball
Hi, What is the tarball? How can I extract it? Where I can extract it from? Thanks, Leon. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikolas Britton wrote: 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading Style Sheets?) CSS? Isnt that a bit outdated? Isnt that more a Windows thing? Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this discussion. Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was then that I lost interest in web devel. Besides - web devel isn't my bag, so I really don't think that I need to have or get a clue. One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to drive the car. -- Best regards, Chris You can't expect to hit the jackpot if you don't put a few nickles in the machine. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pioneer DVR-108 can burn DVDs, can't mount them!
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 02:25, David Vincelli wrote: On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:22:16 +1030, Ian Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:58, David Vincelli wrote: Hi, I'm using FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE with a custom kernel I just compiled a few days ago to have the atapicam device (the only difference with the stock kernel). I added hw.ata.atapi_dma=1 to /boot/loader.conf, and indeed the device is accessed in UltraDMA mode 2. My DVD burner is a Pioneer DVR-108 with the latest firmware at this time (1.18). I can burn DVDs using growisofs but I get a vague input/output error when I try to mount them. (mount failed: input/output error, if I recall correctly). The command I use to mount is: mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt. It seems I cannot mount DVDs at all, even originals. I was wondering if the drive was defective so I tried it under a windows environment and it could read the DVDs fine, even the ones I created under FreeBSD. I'd give you a full listing of the full error that would swamp the (real) console when I tried to mount the DVDs but I don't have access to the box right now. It was a scsi error. asq 8,3 is one of them from what I remember :) Has anyone seen this before? Hi Vince, I bought the same DVD drive a few weeks ago it works just fine on my 5.3-RELEASE system. I can watch DVDs, mount a DVD-ROM I've burnt a DVD-RW successfully. There's nothing special in my kernel except ATAPICAM support. I mount it as a SCSI device, so maybe it's worth trying that on your system? Hi Ian, What do you mean by when you say you mount them as a SCSI device. Which device is that? It's /dev/cdx (or cd1 if it's the second cd drive). You need to have device ATAPI_CAM device scbus device cd in your kernel in order to do this. That will allow the gui cd burning apps like k3b cdbakeoven to burn cds using cdrecord, though you can still use burncd if you prefer. Cheers, -- Ian Moore GPG Key: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/imoore/imoore.asc pgpqYDXpYUB4h.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: CUPS server
Leon schrieb: Hi, How can I check if SUPS server is running? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps ax | grep cups 696 ?? Ss 0:03.87 /usr/local/sbin/cupsd ^ If it is not running , how can I Install it, and configure? cd /usr/ports/print/cups make install clean Thanks, Leon. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] !DSPAM:41cc9a1d244924116313389! -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this discussion. Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was then that I lost interest in web devel. Besides - web devel isn't my bag, so I really don't think that I need to have or get a clue. CSS is a W3 standard, but was originally designed by the CTO of Opera Software, a company which is one of Microsoft's more vocal detractors and which recently received a large settlement in a lawsuit regarding Microsoft's (alleged) intentional efforts to make their website render poorly in Opera's browser. IE handles CSS1 badly, and CSS2 almost not at all. Calling it a Windows thing severely misrepresents the facts. One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to drive the car. One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tarball
Leon schrieb: Hi, What is the tarball? for example that's a tarball: /usr/ports/distfiles/samba-3.0.9.tar.gz actually it is 'gzipped' to shrink its size. How can I extract it? a standard tarball: tar xpvf my-tarball.tar a gzipped tarball: tar xpvfz my-tarball.tar.gz a bzipped tarball: tar xpvfj my-tarball.tar.bz2 Where I can extract it from? Thanks, Leon. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] !DSPAM:41cc9dca320125380216915! -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards Daniel S. Haischt Wan't a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Device Driver
All, Lets supose that I am having a device that does not have support in the FreeBSD Kernel. How is the procedure to compile and use a device driver for FreeBSD ? There is some place and documents to learn how to do that ? Thanks a lot, Giuliano ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Answers: Keeping FreeBSD Applications Up-To-Date
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 23:00:25 +0100, Jorn Argelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Richard, It looks good. However, it would be nice if you actually wrapped the text to make it readable. Hi Jorn, I realized I missed a closing tag when I posted the file. It should render properly now. Thank you for your feedback! Richard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDM problems on fresh install of 5.3
A couple of problems that might cause this have been discussed recently in the freebsd-kde mailing list. One of them involved not having the correct KDE startup files in /usr/local/share/config/kdm (where kdmrc lives, apparently) and another had to do with commands in the shell startup scripts failing (such as user .profile or system /etc/profile). I've also seen this happen when a previous attempt to start X failed and left trash in the user's home directory and in the /tmp directory. I think the command to create the kdm startup files is genkdmconf; however, there are no associated man pages with it but it should be documented on the kde.org Web site. Mike Squires On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Peter McMahan wrote: Hi, I just installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a Dell Latitude, and installation went without a hitch. While trying to configure KDM for graphical login, though, I ran into some problems. startx works fine as both root and as a regular user. However, when I run KDM and enter my username and password all that loads is another instance of KDM. This is very frustrating. The same issue occurs when I try XDM, so I think the problem is with BSD and not KDE. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager
That is indeed the case with portmanager. Sometimes it is a waste of time to rebuild everthing when a dependency changes, and sometimes it is the right thing to do, portmanager assumes it is always the right thing to do. One way this has proved to be a benefit is I've never had to run the special scripts when gnome is updated because after running portmanager everything is already up to date. Interesting. While I certainly don't mind a tool doing what's right, this issue which also exists with NetBSD's pkg_chk is the primary reason why I'm almost about to give up on it; it's just feasable to perform full system upgrades properly. Having your primary workstation half unusable for three days while the whole universe is rebuilding is not very nice... One possible solution I have considered for pkg_chk that may also work for portmanager is to set up a build environment in a chroot where everything is properly upgraded. Either for building packages for all upgraded ports such that the ports installed on the real system can then be upgraded quickly using the packages; or alternatively by perhaps maintaining two separate target directories such that one is being used by normal applications while the other one is being built. One could then make the switch atomically by re-mounting /usr/local (or /usr/pkg in NetBSDs case). Is this even feasable? Is portmanager intended to fully replace portupgrade in the long run? If so I would, as a user, very much value being able to upgrade all ports without disabling the machine in question. As it stands now, I much prefer portupgrade to NetBSD's pkg_chk for exactly this reason, even if portupgrade requires manual tweaking sometimes. -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.scode.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
