date:20070502

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Victor Engmark
 Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 12:28 AM
 To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey
 Cc: FreeBSD Questions
 Subject: Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

 On 5/1/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Monday, 30 April 2007 at 11:02:54 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote:
   I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to
   find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude
   D610.

   I've tried the values presented in MonitorsDB

 http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/src/hwdata/MonitorsDB
 ?view=markup

   for Dell 1400x1050 Laptop Display Panel, which are HorizSync
   31.5-90.0 and VertRefresh 59.0-75.0, but I get a warning in
   /var/log/Xorg.0.log for both of them saying they are not within DDC
   ranges.

   I've tried looking around the Dell web pages, but I haven't found any
   pages mentioning these parameters (not too surprising, really).

   I've tried to leave these settings out, but even then I get a warning:
   (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 60-66.3158kHz not
 within DDC hsync
   ranges.

   I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the other warnings I get
   during startup:
   (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
   and
   (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed.

  This, along with the follow-ups, reminds me of a problem I had with a
  Dell Inspiron 5100 some years ago.  In that case, X didn't map the
  video BIOS correctly, and so it wasn't able to read the information
  from the BIOS.  The information includes things like the panel
  geometry, which in my case was being reported as 65535x65535 pixels.
  In your case we have:

# From Xorg.0.log
DisplaySize  286 214

  That's clearly wrong too.

 It's equal to the values in the
 documentationhttp://support.euro.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/l
 atd610/en/ug_en/specs.htm,
 rounded off to integers.

I feel the need to remind folks that the concept of refresh rates is
completely meaningless with LCD panels.  Flatpanels do not have a single
scan gun that draws lines at a specific time and rate of speed across a
phosphor.

The computer in the LCD panel takes the video input at a range of refresh
rates, and converts it to a bitmapped image that is fed to the display
crystals.  You can use whatever horizontal and vertical refresh rates
you want, as long as they are in the table that the LCD panel's computer
can decode, the resulting output is the same.

I also will remind people that the pixel counts as resolution on flatpanels
also have no meaning.  A flat panel has a fixed natural resolution.  Any
other resolution that you feed to it is either dithered up or dithered
down to match the actual resolution by the display computer in the flat
panel.

Ted

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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

2007-05-02 Thread Victor Engmark


On 5/2/07, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I feel the need to remind folks that the concept of refresh rates is
completely meaningless with LCD panels.  Flatpanels do not have a single
scan gun that draws lines at a specific time and rate of speed across a
phosphor.



Well, the rates are both related to the video card, not the display. I'm not
sure how the card feeds the image to an LCD display, but I guess that would
depend on the enforced horizontal sync and vertical refresh rates. In any
case, it's useful to have these rates if I should ever have the need to
attach the card to an external CRT display.

The computer in the LCD panel takes the video input at a range of refresh

rates, and converts it to a bitmapped image that is fed to the display
crystals.  You can use whatever horizontal and vertical refresh rates
you want, as long as they are in the table that the LCD panel's computer
can decode, the resulting output is the same.



Even though LCD displays don't flicker, it's useful to set the refresh as
high as the panel is able to display, to get smooth transitions.

I also will remind people that the pixel counts as resolution on flatpanels

also have no meaning.  A flat panel has a fixed natural resolution.  Any
other resolution that you feed to it is either dithered up or dithered
down to match the actual resolution by the display computer in the flat
panel.



I'm well aware of that, but I would still like my video card and screen to
perform to the best of their abilities, in order to display the biggest
amount of data per second possible, without frying. Anything else is a waste
of resources.

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RE: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

 -Original Message-
 From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:08 PM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: John Levine; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

 You're making it sound as if greylisting is a terrible idea

NO. I'm making it sound like greylisting is NOT the world's answer to
stopping spam.  It's NOT a miracle cure, it is NOT the last, best hope
for peace.

I'm making it sound like greylisting is just one more tool in the box
to stop spam - not espically better than many other tools, it has it's
good points and it's bad points, as do all the other tools.

Obviously you have a severe problem with this.  All I can say to that
is if you put all your spamfighting eggs in one basket, your foolish.

 because
 once your failure system won't notify you for some unspecified period
 of time.

Give it a rest.  That is one wart on greylisting.  There are others.  Just
as there are warts on all other spamfighting tools.

  I, and others most likely, are saying that it wouldn't take
 much for you to get it working just fine whether the cell carrier
 used it or not.  And even then, you haven't made a case that ISPs or
 businesses still couldn't use it

Right, because it was never my intention to make a case for NOT using it.

It was my original intention to show that greylisting worked because it
allows the blacklists time to get the submitter in their lists, not because
all spammers cannot tolerate greylisting delays because they are sending
spam so fast.  Which is what one of the OP's claimed was how greylisting
worked.

I then added to this later on the intention to show that depending on
greylisting alone will not work in the long haul, because it is easy
to program around it.  Which the spammers will do once a majority of sites
use greylisting, and indeed, many spammers are already starting to do
right now.

...the inconvenience you point out
 still could be worked around simply by doing what I suggested before,
 registering legit by periodically sending a quick message, and if you
 get charged for a short short message like that, then you probably
 need a new cell plan if that is pushing you over your free time, or
 start having your employer compensate you for using your personal
 equipment for business use.

yah yah yah whatever.  As I said before, you are so lost and hung up on
the monitoring example that you have completely misinterpreted everything
that I've said.  The point was not to get sidetracked into this stupid
monitoring example discussion.  The point was to discuss the merits and
problems of greylisting.

I frankly think that you are so in love with greylisting that you are
deliberately trying to AVOID a discussion of it's merits - because you
cannot bear to hear anything bad about it.

In summary, I run several busy mailservers, all that use greylisting.  I
have used greylisting for quite a while.  You can believe that or not.
I am stating that categorically, greylisting at the current time is
a quick hack, that in the majority of cases works, but it's effectiveness
has already started down the road to rapid decline, and every month I
am seeing more and more spam go right past it and get tagged by spamassassin
as being from a blacklisted spam emitter.  That DOES NOT MEAN that you
should NOT use it - no more than it means you should not use things like
SPF records as counters in a point-based spamfiltering system - it merely
means that it's getting less effective every day.

Ted

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RE: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Victor Engmark
 Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:06 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: FreeBSD Questions
 Subject: Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

 On 5/2/07, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I feel the need to remind folks that the concept of refresh rates is
  completely meaningless with LCD panels.  Flatpanels do not have a single
  scan gun that draws lines at a specific time and rate of speed across a
  phosphor.

 Well, the rates are both related to the video card, not the
 display. I'm not
 sure how the card feeds the image to an LCD display, but I guess
 that would
 depend on the enforced horizontal sync and vertical refresh rates.

If your using a VGA connection then yes it does depend on the refresh
rates.  But the refresh rate has no meaning after the signal is processed
by the LCD panel's computer.

 In any
 case, it's useful to have these rates if I should ever have the need to
 attach the card to an external CRT display.

 The computer in the LCD panel takes the video input at a range of refresh
  rates, and converts it to a bitmapped image that is fed to the display
  crystals.  You can use whatever horizontal and vertical refresh rates
  you want, as long as they are in the table that the LCD panel's computer
  can decode, the resulting output is the same.

 Even though LCD displays don't flicker, it's useful to set the refresh as
 high as the panel is able to display, to get smooth transitions.

Try different rates, I think you will find that once you get above 70 Hz
you won't be able to see any difference.

 I also will remind people that the pixel counts as resolution on
 flatpanels
  also have no meaning.  A flat panel has a fixed natural resolution.  Any
  other resolution that you feed to it is either dithered up or dithered
  down to match the actual resolution by the display computer in the flat
  panel.

 I'm well aware of that, but I would still like my video card and screen to
 perform to the best of their abilities, in order to display the biggest
 amount of data per second possible, without frying. Anything else
 is a waste
 of resources.

I think you misunderstand.  If an LCD panel has a resolution of 1024x768 and
you feed it 1280x1024, even though the panel can handle it, you still only
get 1024x768 on the panel.  In fact, you get worse because all of the
sharp lines are blurred by the dithering down of 1280x1024 to 1024x768.

And the human eye cannot see distinct pictures at refresh rates beyond about
30-40 frames per second.  You may see flicker, but the human eye cannot even
distinguish that, much beyond 65-70Hz.

Speeding things up is equivalent to putting a blue fan with pretty lights
that light up when it runs, inside a computer power supply.  You can't
see the difference, but I guess spending the extra money or just knowing
it's there, is comfort food.

What you really want in an LCD panel is a panel with the highest actual
resolution
as possible, and ignore the refresh rate.  But that's expensive.  Which is
why so many people have crappy LCD panels.

It never ceases to amaze me that people will take a perfectly good, sharp,
CRT monitor that can do 1600 x 1400 or some such and toss it out and replace
it with an LCD panel that is the same diagonal size but cannot do better
than
1024x768, and think they have a better display.

I suspect your confusing things like font size with screen resolution which
is a
common thing for people to do.

Ted

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Re: can't zip large files 2gb

2007-05-02 Thread Giorgos Keramidas

On 2007-05-01 15:58, David Banning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am attempting to zip large files that are 2GB - 3GB.

 uname -a;

 FreeBSD 3s1.com 4.11-STABLE FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #7

 I have tried gzip, bzip2 from the ports and rzip.

 All give no errors on zipping, but will not unzip, siting CRC
 errors.

 Is there a maximum file size for zipping? Is my system too old?
 Maybe a file or library that all zip programs depend on that is
 corrupt?

A lot of the features related to file sizes and other attributes
of the files stored on a disk depend highly on the type of file
system used on the disk.

What file system does the destination directory live in?

- Giorgos

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RE: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Kinsey
 Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:57 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions
 Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept
 Office 98 + Publisher?

 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

  When I wrote my book Addison Wesley used Quark internally, but required
  me to submit my manuscript -on paper-.  They then retyped it, sent me
  the proofs (which had enormous numbers of typos in them) I corrected and
  sent back.

  I asked them if I gave them the manuscript in Quark source files if they
  would take that, (because I had access to a pirated copy of Quark and
  figured I would import what I had written my book in) and they would
  not.  They required a paper manuscript.

  Thus, use whatever you want to write your book - if your going to get it
  published most likely your publisher will not be using what your using.

 :-D

 --- a good insight.  Team written books with some of today's publishers
 are even worse --- some friends of mine had a tome published with plenty
 of errors, including Microsoft Word auto-corrections inside their code
 blocks (I will grant that the publisher wasn't quite Addison-Wesley in
 stature).

 It's pretty easy to understand why many people choose to publish their
 work privately these days.

:-)

Actually, that's not it.  Excuse my ranting but there's several bad things
driving private publishing these days.

The publishers got the scent of blood with the Harry Potter books, in
some ways those books ruined the book publishing industry.  Before, nobody
thought a mere book could garner that kind of money.  Today, they all think
this and so are all looking for the next Harry Potter series.  As a result
the publishing companies are buying manuscripts that they think are going to
be big sellers based on what their marketing people think is selling, and
not caring if the work is crap or not.  Good work that would likely have a
niche market is being turned down, crappy work that they think is widely
appealing is being published.

And for example my book - well, it did make money.  But, not a lot of
it.  20 years ago, all the publishing houses wanted was for a book to
make money, they didn't care if it was a lot of money as long as it made
some.  They made their living off of a huge stable of books, all not
making a lot of money, but making some.  But, today, it's not good enough
for a book to make some money, it has to make a phenominal amount of
money.

That's not to say that AW treated me badly, quite the contrary.  But,
once my book had it's run, and they had a reading on what they could
make off of the FreeBSD market, they had no further interest in any
more FreeBSD books.  At least, for then.  (that was 7 years ago, of
course)  No doubt if I were to decide to write a Linux book
they would probably be very interested.  Of course, such a book would
have to be aimed at desktop users, and that's not my interest area.

I suspect that eventually when another decade has gone by and we don't
see another Harry Potter series rearing it's head out of the unknown
muck, the publishing houses will get back to the work of just looking
for good works for large and small markets, developing up and coming
authors, and all the stuff they used to do B.H.P.  I might put my foot
back into the water at that time, as well.

Ted

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RE: A good server motherboard.

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher
 Prance
 Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:02 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: A good server motherboard.

 If you were to build a server using FreeBSD 6.2 , basically for home use,
 serving media files, small web server, basically a very small load, which
 motherboard would you recommend?  Mid range as far as price is concerned.

Recently my father's home system's disk died, he wanted a faster system
so I convinced him to buy a new MB, ram, HD and CPU and let me install it
in his case (he had recently replaced the power supply with an ATX II
supply) and reload Win2K on it, rather than go out and buy a new system
with Vista preloaded, and then have to deal with 3/4 of his software
not working and having to be upgraded.

I deliberately selected the cheapest motherboard the local computer
store had in stock - $89 it was.  AMD Seperon CPU.  Gig of ram, 80GB
disk, etc.  Manucturer was FIC or Elitegroup, I can't recall which.

I was stunned and amazed at how advanced, how good, the board is.  Easy
to setup, no problem loading software, didn't have to use special drivers,
and stable as a rock.  And a host of features.

I took his old board, a 2 year old Elitegroup something or other, AMD Duron,
and
made a BSD server out of that.  Also, stable as a rock.

I have to conclude that these days even the cheapest motherboards are
far better than the most expensive boards were 10 years ago.

Ted

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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

2007-05-02 Thread Victor Engmark


On 5/2/07, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Victor Engmark
 On 5/2/07, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The computer in the LCD panel takes the video input at a range of
refresh
  rates, and converts it to a bitmapped image that is fed to the display
  crystals.  You can use whatever horizontal and vertical refresh rates
  you want, as long as they are in the table that the LCD panel's
computer
  can decode, the resulting output is the same.

 Even though LCD displays don't flicker, it's useful to set the refresh
as
 high as the panel is able to display, to get smooth transitions.

Try different rates, I think you will find that once you get above 70 Hz
you won't be able to see any difference.



But then my card / screen may be fried.

And the human eye cannot see distinct pictures at refresh rates beyond about

30-40 frames per second.  You may see flicker, but the human eye cannot
even
distinguish that, much beyond 65-70Hz.



http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm - Interesting
reading in that respect. Screens still have a long way to go.

The rest of the mail looks like trolling, so I'll just leave those parts
alone. I only need one of the following three:

  - Reference documentation where the capabilities of my screen is
  explained.
  - A working method for finding this information on my own.
  - A good explanation for why I should ignore the X.org warnings.


--
Victor Engmark
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur - What is said in Latin, sounds
profound
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Re: A good server motherboard.

2007-05-02 Thread Danny Woods

On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 08:58:19PM +0200, Andreas Rudisch wrote:
 On Tue, 01 May 2007 17:01:48 +0200, Christopher Prance  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 If you were to build a server using FreeBSD 6.2 , basically for home use,
 serving media files, small web server, basically a very small load, which
 motherboard would you recommend?  Mid range as far as price is concerned.
 
 What about one of these: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/
 
 I have been running a VIA Epia PD for a couple of years now as a home
 server/router without any problems.
 
 Andreas

I'll second that.  I have a EPIA-M board with a fanless 533 C3 that's been 
running pretty much constantly (moves aside) for the past four or five years.  
It's not going to break any speed records, but it quite happily works as a Web 
server, Subversion repository, mail hub, torrent node and file server without 
any trouble at all.

Cheers,
Danny.
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NTP broadcast with autokey setup

2007-05-02 Thread Vince

Hi all,
I've been trying to follow the instructions to setup autokey
authentication at http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Support/ConfiguringAutokey
using IFF Parameters.
As yet i havent been able to get this working and I'm not sure why,
Does anyone have a working server and client config they would be
willing to share, or better yet a methodology to follow.


Thanks,
Vince
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7TB Storage in Files ?

2007-05-02 Thread Frans Haarman

Hello,

I was hoping some of the readers are using Virtualdisk within FreeBSD (
mdconfig -a -f my-virtualdisk.vdisk ) .
We have a huge storage partition, currently 7.2TB (4.8 in use).

I want to split the storage into virtualdisk so we can be more flexibile
with dumping, snapshoting, and moving
contracts to some other storage.

Whats the biggest virtualdisk you have seen in production ?  The
biggest directory we now have is 840GB.
We suspect it wil grow to 1.5TB in the coming months. Putting all that
in a virtualdisk, well, maybe its smarter
To dedicated a partition for so much data. But that's because I havent
got much experience with such big
Virtual disks.

However we still have many smaller directories which are between 50GB 
300GB. Somehow that seems more
safe to put in a virtualdisk. It's probably my ignorance talking ;)


Any feedback is welcome!
Cheers, FH. 
Frans Haarman 
De Giessen Automatisering B.V.



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Re: BSDstats: Minor Update to Port ...

2007-05-02 Thread Lars Kristiansen


RW skrev:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:10:27 +0200
Lars Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Marc G. Fournier skrev:



I've just made a slight change to the port so that it adds a
bsdstats.sh script to /usr/local/etc/rc.d that can be enabled
in /etc/rc.conf so that it runs on system reboot ...

The script that prompts you to enable will auto-enable boottime
reporting if you enable monthly reporting as well ...

It adds half a minute or so to startup-time.

So I changed  the line:
run_rc_command $1
to:
run_rc_command $1 

To force it to background.
Is this correct action in rc-scripts?


A much better solution is to install sysutils/anacron instead; fix the
problem, not the symptom.


Thank you for answering.
Are you saying that the rc-system should not be used for setting a 
program to background to be able to continue booting?


In that case maybe a simple entry like this in /etc/crontab will do:
@reboot  /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics -nodelay

I do not think only the bsdstats script is enough to want to install 
anacron.


--
Regards,
Lars




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Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

2007-05-02 Thread Bart Silverstrim

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:08 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: John Levine; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

You're making it sound as if greylisting is a terrible idea

NO. I'm making it sound like greylisting is NOT the world's answer to
stopping spam.  It's NOT a miracle cure, it is NOT the last, best hope
for peace.

If that is the case, you didn't understand me either...I believe that at 
this point it takes layers to try stopping spam and viruses, and there 
are tradeoffs to be made.  It isn't a cure and I don't think I professed 
it was.

Obviously you have a severe problem with this.  All I can say to that
is if you put all your spamfighting eggs in one basket, your foolish.

Curious...where did I say that was all I was using?

Give it a rest.  That is one wart on greylisting.  There are others.  Just
as there are warts on all other spamfighting tools.

Um...you were bringing it up and focusing on it.  Every time you claimed 
what a terrible thing this was for your monitoring system, I would say 
it's not as big a problem as you were making it out to be.

  I, and others most likely, are saying that it wouldn't take

much for you to get it working just fine whether the cell carrier
used it or not.  And even then, you haven't made a case that ISPs or
businesses still couldn't use it

Right, because it was never my intention to make a case for NOT using it.

That wasn't how it appeared.  You disparaged it every time as to why it 
wouldn't work for you if XYZ happened, so it very much appeared that you 
didn't want it.

It was my original intention to show that greylisting worked because it
allows the blacklists time to get the submitter in their lists, not because
all spammers cannot tolerate greylisting delays because they are sending
spam so fast.  Which is what one of the OP's claimed was how greylisting
worked.

I would disagree on the blacklisting part.  I think that a lot of the 
bulk software *doesn't* retry, a lot of it is spoofing headers so mail 
isn't going back to where it would if the sender were legitimate, etc.

Having to send mail to a location more than once means expending 2 
connects instead of 1.  It's a very small tax, but it's one I'm willing 
to impose if it makes their lives one tenth of one percent more of a hassle.

I then added to this later on the intention to show that depending on
greylisting alone will not work in the long haul, because it is easy
to program around it.  Which the spammers will do once a majority of sites
use greylisting, and indeed, many spammers are already starting to do
right now.

Like I said...if it taxes their resources even one tenth of one percent, 
I'm for it.

yah yah yah whatever.  As I said before, you are so lost and hung up on
the monitoring example that you have completely misinterpreted everything
that I've said.  

Then why did you keep harping on it after I and others pointed out why 
your complaint wasn't such a show stopper?

The point was not to get sidetracked into this stupid
monitoring example discussion.  The point was to discuss the merits and
problems of greylisting.

Then start doing that.  You said it wouldn't work in all cases, because 
XYZ.  We said, hey, that's not a big deal because ABC.  You continued to 
harp on XYZ.  Try bringing up DEF next time.

I frankly think that you are so in love with greylisting that you are
deliberately trying to AVOID a discussion of it's merits - because you
cannot bear to hear anything bad about it.

I'm interested in knowing where in my discussions I said it was the only 
thing to use, the only one I DO use, and that it was a cureall that I 
loved so much.  I was personally looking at trying to combine SA, 
greylisting, and tarpitting, along with filtering by headers and 
stripping or sanitizing attachments/HTML if possible.  You never even 
TRIED to bring up any other solution nor did you discuss the 
effectiveness of other methods when combined.  If you did, point it out. 
 At most, as I recall, you mentioned SA was more effective than 
greylisting (so?  Combine them.  Greylisting helps lower the system load 
when a message does get to SA).  You pointed out you use greylisting and 
it was dying out in effectiveness, and you gave an example that hinted 
if certain businesses use it your world would fall apart because you 
wouldn't be notified in time and your customers would leave you in droves.

In summary, I run several busy mailservers, all that use greylisting.  I
have used greylisting for quite a while.  You can believe that or not.

As I recall, I asked you how you have it set up on your system(s) since 
you previously said you ran it and saw the effect diminishing.  It seems 
to me that you're almost making things up as to what I've said or not 
said, since I never implied you were lying or that I didn't

RE: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

2007-05-02 Thread John L


NO. I'm making it sound like greylisting is NOT the world's answer to
stopping spam.  It's NOT a miracle cure, it is NOT the last, best hope
for peace.


Sigh.  You might want to read the paper Experiences with Greylisting 
from the 2005 CEAS conference.



It was my original intention to show that greylisting worked because it
allows the blacklists time to get the submitter in their lists, not because
all spammers cannot tolerate greylisting delays because they are sending
spam so fast.


This claim has often been made by people who do not have much experience 
with greylisting.  It's not true, and repeating it won't make it true. 
See the paper above for some actual data which shows that the overwhelming 
majority of spammers don't retry, unrelated to blacklists.



I then added to this later on the intention to show that depending on
greylisting alone  will not work in the long haul,


Nobody but you is making this absurd claim.  Please stop.

R's,
John
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Re: freebsd installation server (nfs/ftp/http) local network

2007-05-02 Thread Watanabe Kazuhiro

Hello.

Did you read the following document?

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html

At Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:01:07 -0700,
Anuj Singh wrote:
 Hiee,
 it is not on a public network, all i am trying to know how to do it, I do
 the same method for installing linux os, I exported FreeBSD6.2 ISO images
 via nfs. it didn't worked. Do I need to extract the files? to install
 freebsd via nfs, or ftp or http over a local network.
 regards
 anugunj anuj
 
 On 4/29/07, Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  anujgunj anuj singh wrote:
   Hiee,
   I have ISO images on network pc, I want to perform a network
   installation using nfs OR ftp OR http.
   Plus what is the best way of installation (package selection) to not to
   switch cd's between 2 cd's.
   regards
   anugunj anuj
  
   On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 23:37 +0400, Reshmakov Roman wrote:
   Hiee,
   I need to create a nfs/ftp/http installation server threw which I can
   install FreeBSD on other local machines. I have ISO images of
   FreeBSD6.2.
   How to create any or all nfs/ftp/http installation server. I went
  threw
   man pages it shows me CDROM sharing network installation. I want to
   install with ISO images on hard-disk.
   Thanks and regards
   anugunj anuj
   Use dump/restore and Fix-it from installation CD-ROM. I use this
   method and install new server over 20-30 min.
 
  All will equally serve the purpose of helping you install the files on
  your target machine. NFS is the least computing intensive option though
  and doesn't require additional components to be installed in order to
  use an NFS server. I would suggest not using this though if concerned
  about security issues, i.e. your machine is running on a
  unsecured/public network.
 
  -Garrett
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Re: upgrade

2007-05-02 Thread Jerry McAllister

On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 01:26:22PM +0100, RW wrote:

 On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:12:48 -0400
 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 10:54:52PM -0400, kalin mintchev wrote:
  
   
   hello...
   
   how painful is to upgrade srcs from 6 to 6.2? all backup and stuff?
  
  Not very painful, though I would definitely recommend a backup.
  Even though the upgrade process is quite reliable, it is easy to
  make a mistake or change your mind about something in the middle
  and so you might want your old files.
 
 Personally I just backup /etc, which contains the configuration for
 the base system. It's possible to mess-up these file within
 mergemaster, and it would be a pain to recreate them. Everything else
 is reinstallable, or user data, and the threat to the latter
 isn't much greater than when upgrading ports.

Your choice.   I would back up the user data too, but...

jerry

 
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Re: Clustered file system

2007-05-02 Thread Jerry McAllister

On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 11:44:26PM +0200, Rico Secada wrote:

 Hi
 
 We are expanding at work and I am messing around with different setups.
 
 I need a file system that will *look* like its just on one machine, 
 like when mounting with NFS, but because of the large amount of data, 
 I really need to expand the files to several servers.

Well, that sounds like AFS.   Check out OpenAFS and Arla - Arla is
just a client, not the server.   OpenAFS does both, but may not
handle the most recent FreeBSD versions.   I haven't kept up lately.

Also, you might want to check out ZFS and see if it suits  your 
needs.   I understand it will be available in FreeBSD in 7.xx.
It comes from SUN.

 
 Also I need some kind of security.

AFS does authentication and has ACLs.

jerry
 
 I haven't set something like this up before so all kind of friendly 
 advice would be greatly appriciated. What solution is recommended?
 
 Best regards
 Rico
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 fdisk = bad disk geometry ?

2007-05-02 Thread Lowell Gilbert

Theorem [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm having trouble setting up a new RAID5 array.  It's a RocketRAID
 1740 with 4x 500G disks, in RAID5 this gives approx. 1.5T of space.
 It looks like it's operating properly on /dev/da0 .

 Unfortunately, when I go to FDISK this via /usr/sbin/sysinstall I see
 the same error over and over and over trying to set my disk to the
 right cycls / heads / sectors.

 here are 2 screenshots of the messages :

 http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/theorem21/manual_set_err.jpg
 http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y260/theorem21/repeat_set_err.jpg

 Even trying to set the disk manually gives the repeat_set_err.jpg,
 so I can't possibly have a correct disk geometry.

 Can anyone help me out ?  Any suggestions are welcome, I don't know if
 ignoring this is the best option.

There is more information in the FAQ, but yes, you should be able to
ignore it if the system seems to be working fine.
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RE: A good server motherboard.

2007-05-02 Thread Tom Marchand

 -- Original message --
From: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  Prance
  Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:02 AM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: A good server motherboard.

  If you were to build a server using FreeBSD 6.2 , basically for home use,
  serving media files, small web server, basically a very small load, which
  motherboard would you recommend?  Mid range as far as price is concerned.

 Recently my father's home system's disk died, he wanted a faster system
 so I convinced him to buy a new MB, ram, HD and CPU and let me install it
 in his case (he had recently replaced the power supply with an ATX II
 supply) and reload Win2K on it, rather than go out and buy a new system
 with Vista preloaded, and then have to deal with 3/4 of his software
 not working and having to be upgraded.

 I deliberately selected the cheapest motherboard the local computer
 store had in stock - $89 it was.  AMD Seperon CPU.  Gig of ram, 80GB
 disk, etc.  Manucturer was FIC or Elitegroup, I can't recall which.

 I was stunned and amazed at how advanced, how good, the board is.  Easy
 to setup, no problem loading software, didn't have to use special drivers,
 and stable as a rock.  And a host of features.

 I took his old board, a 2 year old Elitegroup something or other, AMD Duron,
 and
 made a BSD server out of that.  Also, stable as a rock.

 I have to conclude that these days even the cheapest motherboards are
 far better than the most expensive boards were 10 years ago.

 Ted

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no-name motherboard and I have had no problems.  It's been running FreeBSD for 
a couple of months now with no problems.
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Installed an Intel pro1000 yesterday

2007-05-02 Thread Jonathan Horne

I picked up a dual pro1000 off ebay the other day, and finally installed it
in my server last night.  The em interfaces show up normally, but one
feature that I enjoyed from the fxp that I was previously using, was the it
properly supported WoL without doing anything special.  I have a similar
pro1000 card in a windows server, that works with WoL as expected, and
considering the family lineage, I was kinda expecting the em to work with
WoL right off the bat.

The fxp0 is still in the machine (onboard), but I would rather not keep it
plugged in just for the luxury of being able to wake this box up... I wish
the em would work like I want!

Anyone have some suggestions on getting the em to understand the magic
packets?

Thanks,
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Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?

Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 The publishers got the scent of blood with the Harry Potter books, in
 some ways those books ruined the book publishing industry.  Before, nobody
 thought a mere book could garner that kind of money.  Today, they all think
 this and so are all looking for the next Harry Potter series.  As a result
 the publishing companies are buying manuscripts that they think are going to
 be big sellers based on what their marketing people think is selling, and
 not caring if the work is crap or not.  Good work that would likely have a
 niche market is being turned down, crappy work that they think is widely
 appealing is being published.

This has nothing to do with Harry Potter, it started long before that.

 I suspect that eventually when another decade has gone by and we don't
 see another Harry Potter series rearing it's head out of the unknown
 muck, the publishing houses will get back to the work of just looking
 for good works for large and small markets, developing up and coming
 authors, and all the stuff they used to do B.H.P.

I doubt it.  You know why?  Because the publishers are at the mercy of
retailers, and retailers - especially supermarkets and large chains -
aren't in the business of selling books, they are in the business of
selling *a* book.  You know which book I mean: the one that's piled
waist high on a pallet right inside the door.

Everything else in the store is a loss.  A book doesn't have to stay
on the shelf very long for the hypothetical profit to be eaten up by
the cost of storing it and of tying up your cash in inventory.  They
might as well glue the books to the shelves, and save the cost of
processing a hypothetical sale and restocking.

The pallet is *it*.

Customers don't seem to mind - when you're looking for something to
read on the train or give away as a present or you just want to be
able to follow the conversation around the water cooler at work, you
rarely go further than the pallet.  The odds are, that's the book your
colleagues are discussing anyway.

This is the same phenomenon that, in the game industry, killed the
combat flight simulator and almost killed the adventure game.  It's
not that people don't buy them, it's that retailers don't want to sell
them because they don't sell in large volumes immediately upon their
release.

It's slightly better for technical books, because they're not
interchangeable to the same degree that novels are.

Things might change if consumers shift massively from buying books in
stores to buying them online.  They haven't yet, and I don't know when
(or whether) they will.

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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

Victor Engmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to
 find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude
 D610.

These parameters are meaningless for an LCD panel.  Leave them out,
and X.org will DTRT.  The wrong values will *not* fry your panel.

If you're having trouble getting the correct resolution to work, you
probably just need to run 915resolution to patch the BIOS so X.org
will detect the correct mode.

The best way to create a pristine xorg.conf, by the way, is to run
'X -configure' (after running 915resolution, if applicable).

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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Monday, 30 April 2007 at 11:02:54 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote:
   DisplaySize  286 214
 That's clearly wrong too.

No, those are the physical dimensions of his panel in millimeters.

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Re: can't zip large files 2gb

 Maybe you have defective RAM in the upper memory area.
 Try running MEMtest86 to see you have some bad memory.

You may have something here. I don't have a floppy on this machine,
and I can't shut down my server to test the memory but I may shut
it down long enough to swap the memory chips so I can test them in
another machine.
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Re: can't zip large files 2gb

 A lot of the features related to file sizes and other attributes
 of the files stored on a disk depend highly on the type of file
 system used on the disk.
 
 What file system does the destination directory live in?

originally my problem was with a dedicated ide (on ide cable in machine)
secondary mounted drive - 300G

I tried it in /usr with same results.
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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

Victor Engmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Even though LCD displays don't flicker, it's useful to set the
 refresh as high as the panel is able to display, to get smooth
 transitions.

Most LCD panels don't go higher than 60 fps, and you won't notice much
difference beyond ~30 fps anyway due to persistence - the pixels are
physically unable to change color faster than this.  Setting your
refresh rate to anything else than the default 60 Hz will simply
generate heat and eat up your battery for no gain.

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Re: X/gnome through ssh, clashes with local gnome?

Warren Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 So, you're saying that although I can run things on my server,
 I shouldn't have expected to get the RDP/VNC extra's (if you can call it
 that) such as the menu(items), background, windowmanager, etcetera.

 I basically expected the remote gnome to appear as a window that I could
 throw fullscreen or have minimized.
 Is that possible in any way?

Without installing any additional software: SSH to the remote host,
start Xnest and run gnome-session on the Xnest display.

There are other ways to do this, the closest equivalent to RDP in the
Unix world is NX by NoMachine (www.nomachine.com).  Don't even think
about VNC - it is extremely insecure.

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Re: BSDstats: Minor Update to Port ...

2007-05-02 Thread RW

On Wed, 02 May 2007 13:46:15 +0200
Lars Kristiansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 RW skrev:
 
  A much better solution is to install sysutils/anacron instead; fix
  the problem, not the symptom.
 
 I do not think only the bsdstats script is enough to want to install 
 anacron.

The periodic scripts do other things apart from BSDstats. Installing
anacron is very simple and solves the underlying problem, rather than
just one symptom of the problem.


 

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Re: can't zip large files 2gb

2007-05-02 Thread Giorgos Keramidas

On 2007-05-02 12:26, David Banning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 A lot of the features related to file sizes and other attributes of
 the files stored on a disk depend highly on the type of file system
 used on the disk.
 
 What file system does the destination directory live in?
 
 originally my problem was with a dedicated ide (on ide cable in machine)
 secondary mounted drive - 300G
 
 I tried it in /usr with same results.

The disk type isn't really what I asked about.  Is your /usr file system
mounted from UFS (I haven't kept all the messages of the thread, so I
don't remember from the df output; please excuse my short memory, if
I'm repeating a question already answered).

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Re: Bridging with tap

2007-05-02 Thread Pete Jones


Thanks for the reply,
I followed the instructions in the handbook for ethernet bridging. In 
Freebsd 6.1 release you could compile the bridge and tap modules into the 
kernel, then enable ethernet bridging and actually bridge two interfaces 
using sysctl.conf. I found that this brought a tap interface up at startup. 
This did not automatically happen for me using 6.2 release, I have since 
discovered however that  openvpn on startup brings up a tap interface, but 
of course at this point the sysctl.conf bridging entry had passed. I have 
since discovered that bridge has been superceded by if_bridge and that I 
should be able to bridge the two interfaces using rc.conf. I have entered 
the correct command, but how do know for sure that the two interfaces are 
bridged?


thanks in advance
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From: Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Pete Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: FreeBSD-questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: Bridging with tap



Pete Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Does anyone know anything about ethernet bridging to a tap interface
in Freebsd 6.2. I have compiled the bridge option and the tap device
into the kernel, but the tap device has not appeared. I have tried
this on a virtual machine and a separate box with the same results,
yet it works with Freebsd 6.1. I used the same configuration in
sysctl.conf for both 6.1 and 6.2.

Has anyone had the same problem, or any other problems with tap not
working?


tap devices don't appear until you try to use them.  What are you
actually trying that fails?


My qemu-based testbed with a lot of tap devices has been working on
-STABLE steadily since early in the 6.x lifetime (I haven't used it
lately, but it definitely worked after 6.2 was released).



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Re: can't zip large files 2gb

  originally my problem was with a dedicated ide (on ide cable in machine)
  secondary mounted drive - 300G
  
  I tried it in /usr with same results.
 
 The disk type isn't really what I asked about.  Is your /usr file system
 mounted from UFS (I haven't kept all the messages of the thread, so I
 don't remember from the df output; please excuse my short memory, if
 I'm repeating a question already answered).

I was actually stabbing at the answer there - yes, both file systems
tried are UFS, each are on separate drives, both have plenty of space
and I have done an error free fsck on one of those drives, the other
is mounted and running so I have not tried fsck. 

Here is a summary;

original 3G tar file; untars fine
gzip; corrupts
bzip2; currupts
compress; corrupts
rzip; corrupts

I realize this looks like it may be memory, but running top I notice
that archivers use very little memory, between 1-10 meg while running,
while they do keep the processor fairly busy working.

There is one thing on my mind - I only have 512Meg in my machine. I
installed another 512M to make it 1G and the machine crashed once
per week; the new memory card is what I concluded was a problem. 

I took out the memory card concluding that is was the the new
memory I installed and then deinstalled that was problematic. Just
so were clear - all of my zip problems have been been running on my
original, problem free 512M memory.

Now I'm thinking of another possiblity - could it be that installing
the -new- memory caused the machine to reorganize how the -old- memory was
used - exposing a problem in the original memory that before the 
machine didn't use that often? 

Hope you followed that -

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Dell x300 bge0 ethernet freebsd 6.2

2007-05-02 Thread Dan Sikorsky


Hey all

Im trying to get freebsd to work on my dell latitude x300

ethernet device comes up as bge0
i read the man page on bge it says to load the module at boot time
But still same problem, it seems whenever i try to do dhcp, the card 
turns off or somthing (the lights go off)

and i cant get it to work.

No i need to ndis or somthing?

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Re: Dell x300 bge0 ethernet freebsd 6.2

Have to checked the settings for the network card?
If there is an option to allow it to turn itself off
when no activity, try turning it off.

--- Dan Sikorsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey all
 
 Im trying to get freebsd to work on my dell latitude
 x300
 
 ethernet device comes up as bge0
 i read the man page on bge it says to load the
 module at boot time
 But still same problem, it seems whenever i try to
 do dhcp, the card 
 turns off or somthing (the lights go off)
 and i cant get it to work.
 
 No i need to ndis or somthing?
 
 thanks
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kismet config problem

2007-05-02 Thread AN

I am trying to configure kismet on an IBM Thinkpad R51, running FBSD 
6.2stable and Gnome 2.18.1, with Atheros based Netgear WAG511 card.  I 
added user kismet to the system, and changed permissions on /home/kismet 
to 777. (drwxrwxrwx   3 root  wheel 512 May  2 20:40 kismet/).  I have 
the following in Kismet config file:

# User to setid to (should be your normal user)
suiduser=kismet

# YOU MUST CHANGE THIS TO BE THE SOURCE YOU WANT TO USE
source=radiotap_bsd_ab,ath0,kismet

The problem is that kismet fails to start, and produces the following 
output:


# kismet
Server options:  none
Client options:  none
Starting server...
Waiting for server to start before starting UI...
Will drop privs to kismet (1001) gid 1001
No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled.
Enabling channel hopping.
Enabling channel splitting.
Source 0 (kismet): Enabling monitor mode for radiotap_bsd_ab source 
interface ath0 channel 6...

Source 0 (kismet): Opening radiotap_bsd_ab source interface ath0...
WARNING:  pcap reports link type of EN10MB but we'll fake it on BSD.
This may not work the way we want it to.
WARNING:  Some Free- and Net- BSD drivers do not report rfmon packets
correctly.  Kismet will probably not run correctly.  For better
support, you should upgrade to a version of *BSD with Radiotap.
Spawned channelc control process 29677
Dropped privs to kismet (1001) gid 1001
Allowing clients to fetch WEP keys.
Logging networks to Kismet-May-02-2007-1.network
Logging networks in CSV format to Kismet-May-02-2007-1.csv
Logging networks in XML format to Kismet-May-02-2007-1.xml
Logging cryptographically weak packets to Kismet-May-02-2007-1.weak
Logging cisco product information to Kismet-May-02-2007-1.cisco
Logging gps coordinates to Kismet-May-02-2007-1.gps
Logging data to Kismet-May-02-2007-1.dump
Writing data files to disk every 300 seconds.
Mangling encrypted and fuzzy data packets.
Tracking probe responses and associating probe networks.
Reading AP manufacturer data and defaults from /usr/local/etc/ap_manuf
Reading client manufacturer data and defaults from 
/usr/local/etc/client_manuf

Using network-classifier based data encryption detection
FATAL: Dump file error: Unable to open dump file Kismet-May-02-2007-1.dump 
(Permission denied)

Sending termination request to channel control child 29677...
Waiting for channel control child 29677 to exit...
WARNING: Sometimes cards don't always come out of monitor mode
 cleanly.  If your card is not fully working, you may need to
 restart or reconfigure it for normal operation.
Kismet exiting.

So, it seems as if there is a permissions issue trying to create the dump 
file.


I would appreciate any help getting this to work, if more debug info is 
needed please let me know.


TIA,

Andy
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List of UPCs that can auto-shutdown FreeBSD

I need help finding a UPS that can tell a computer
running FreeBSD 6.2 to shutdown. I checked the
hardware compatibility -- UPS are not even listed.

The APC Back-UPS ES USB 750VA w/TEL  COAX meets my
needs, but they don't offer the software (PowerChute
Personal Edition) for FreeBSD (closest is Mac OS X).

My budget is $100 (+/- $20). The system is a modest
server (ASUS PDB-DS w/onboard SCSI controller, Intel
PII/400, 3 SCSI HDD, 1 CD-ROM, 1 3.5 floppy, video
card, NIC), 14 monitor, kbd and mouse. In addition
there is a cable modem and a 4-port router.

I'd prefer a major brand that I can purchase locally,
if possible. If you know of one that will definitely
work, please respond. Thanks!

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Re: can't zip large files 2gb

2007-05-02 Thread David Kelly

On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 02:08:16PM -0400, David Banning wrote:

 Here is a summary;
 
 original 3G tar file; untars fine
 gzip; corrupts
 bzip2; currupts
 compress; corrupts
 rzip; corrupts

I haven't been paying 100% attention. Just how does it fail? What do you
mean by corrupt?

Does the process run to completion?

Are the output zip files reasonable in size?

Are the expanded files reasonable in size? If so where does the mismatch
start?

Is the problem always in the same place for the same input file?

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Re: List of UPCs that can auto-shutdown FreeBSD

2007-05-02 Thread Dan Nelson

In the last episode (May 02), L Goodwin said:
 I need help finding a UPS that can tell a computer running FreeBSD
 6.2 to shutdown. I checked the hardware compatibility -- UPS are not
 even listed.
 
 The APC Back-UPS ES USB 750VA w/TEL  COAX meets my needs, but they
 don't offer the software (PowerChute Personal Edition) for FreeBSD
 (closest is Mac OS X).

The Network UPS Tools package (in ports as sysutils/nut ) can manage
all sorts of UPS hardware, and you can set it to shutdown servers when
the UPS battery gets low.

http://www.networkupstools.org/compat/stable.html says the Back-UPS ES
is supported.  I use nut on a similar USB-monitored APC UPS at home.

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Re: List of UPCs that can auto-shutdown FreeBSD

2007-05-02 Thread Erik Trulsson

On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 12:33:22PM -0700, L Goodwin wrote:
 I need help finding a UPS that can tell a computer
 running FreeBSD 6.2 to shutdown. I checked the
 hardware compatibility -- UPS are not even listed.
 
 The APC Back-UPS ES USB 750VA w/TEL  COAX meets my
 needs, but they don't offer the software (PowerChute
 Personal Edition) for FreeBSD (closest is Mac OS X).

*They* don't offer the software, no.  Have you checked the ports tree?
In particular taken a look at sysutils/apcupsd ?
It is supposed to work with most of APC's UPS-models.
More information about it at  http://www.apcupsd.com

 
 My budget is $100 (+/- $20). The system is a modest
 server (ASUS PDB-DS w/onboard SCSI controller, Intel
 PII/400, 3 SCSI HDD, 1 CD-ROM, 1 3.5 floppy, video
 card, NIC), 14 monitor, kbd and mouse. In addition
 there is a cable modem and a 4-port router.
 
 I'd prefer a major brand that I can purchase locally,
 if possible. If you know of one that will definitely
 work, please respond. Thanks!

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follow up on x300 network card is BCM5705M

2007-05-02 Thread Dan Sikorsky


Any further clues how to get this working in freebsd?

tried a pcbsd 1.301 install and it still didnt work.

saw somewhere that a guy had custom .h files for the card, because it 
times out before firmware loaded.

http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2003-07/0924.html

but i also read somewhere that a guy got a similar dell laptop with 
*BCM5705M to work out of the box




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Re: List of UPCs that can auto-shutdown FreeBSD

2007-05-02 Thread Jonathan Horne




On 5/2/07 2:33 PM, L Goodwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I need help finding a UPS that can tell a computer
 running FreeBSD 6.2 to shutdown. I checked the
 hardware compatibility -- UPS are not even listed.
 
 The APC Back-UPS ES USB 750VA w/TEL  COAX meets my
 needs, but they don't offer the software (PowerChute
 Personal Edition) for FreeBSD (closest is Mac OS X).
 
 My budget is $100 (+/- $20). The system is a modest
 server (ASUS PDB-DS w/onboard SCSI controller, Intel
 PII/400, 3 SCSI HDD, 1 CD-ROM, 1 3.5 floppy, video
 card, NIC), 14 monitor, kbd and mouse. In addition
 there is a cable modem and a 4-port router.
 
 I'd prefer a major brand that I can purchase locally,
 if possible. If you know of one that will definitely
 work, please respond. Thanks!
 
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Check out sysutils/apcupsd.  I have it running with similar APC UPS's, and
it does exactly this.  I even added another destination line on some of the
scripts it runs on different power events, and when the power is off long
enough (5 seconds I believe), I get a message sent to my cell phone (via
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6.2 SCSI RAID controllers

2007-05-02 Thread Josef Grosch


What is the best SCSI/SATA/SAS RAID controller to use with 6.x? We have
tried LSI for SAS and we are not that impressed with it. 


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network address in IP FILTER

Hi all,
i want to have these two rules in the ipf.rules file

pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.83.122.17/8 to $myip port = 22 flags S 
keep state
pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.83.89.61/8 to $myip port = 22 flags S 
keep state

where $iof is my interface. Executing the config file i get the following error

ioctl(add/insert rule): File exists

Which means the rule is being loaded twice. But the networka addresses above are
different!!! If i comment any of the above two lines, ipf executes fine.
Any idea how to solve this error, and allow only these two networks above?
Thanks in advance ...




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network address in IP FILTER

Hi all,
i want to have these two rules in the ipf.rules file

pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.83.122.17/8 to $myip port = 22 flags S 
keep state
pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.83.89.61/8 to $myip port = 22 flags S 
keep state

where $iof is my interface. Executing the config file i get the following error

ioctl(add/insert rule): File exists

Which means the rule is being loaded twice. But the networka addresses above are
different!!! If i comment any of the above two lines, ipf executes fine.
Any idea how to solve this error, and allow only these two networks above?
Thanks in advance ...




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IP FILTER and network address

Hi all,
i want to have these two rules in the ipf.rules file

pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.83.122.17/8 to $myip port = 22 flags S 
keep state
pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.83.89.61/8 to $myip port = 22 flags S 
keep state

where $iof is my interface. Executing the config file i get the following error

ioctl(add/insert rule): File exists

Which means the rule is being loaded twice. But the networka addresses above are
different!!! If i comment any of the above two lines, ipf executes fine.
Any idea how to solve this error, and allow only these two networks above?
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Re: IP FILTER and network address

2007-05-02 Thread Steve Bertrand

Tun Eler wrote:
 Hi all,
 i want to have these two rules in the ipf.rules file
 
 pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.83.122.17/8 to $myip port = 22 flags 
 S keep state
 pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.83.89.61/8 to $myip port = 22 flags 
 S keep state
 
 where $iof is my interface. Executing the config file i get the following 
 error
 
 ioctl(add/insert rule): File exists
 
 Which means the rule is being loaded twice. But the networka addresses above 
 are
 different!!! If i comment any of the above two lines, ipf executes fine.
 Any idea how to solve this error, and allow only these two networks above?
 Thanks in advance ...

Appending your IP with /8 ends you up with two rules that essentially
look like this (AFAIK):

pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.0.0.0/8 to $myip port = 22
flags S keep state

pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.0.0.0/8 to $myip port = 22
flags S keep state

Perhaps you want to filter the IP's only, like:

pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.83.122.17/32 to $myip port = 22
flags S keep state

pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.83.89.61/32 to $myip port = 22
flags S keep state


Regards,

Steve
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cups permission problems

2007-05-02 Thread AN

I just installed cups 1.2.10 on FBSD 6.2 stable from ports.  The install 
completed successfully, however when I try to do anything nothing works. 
After starting the cups daemon, I go to localhost:631 and I can see the 
main page but when I try to add a printer the page is blank.  The 
following are excerpts from /var/log/cups/error_log:


I [02/May/2007:22:44:46 +0300] Full reload complete.
I [02/May/2007:22:44:46 +0300] Listening to ::1:631 on fd 2...
I [02/May/2007:22:44:46 +0300] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 on fd 3...
I [02/May/2007:22:44:46 +0300] Listening to /var/run/cups.sock on fd 4...
I [02/May/2007:22:45:04 +0300] commptr=?OP=add-printer
I [02/May/2007:22:45:04 +0300] Started 
/usr/local/libexec/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi (pid=89759)
E [02/May/2007:22:45:04 +0300] [CGI] Unable to open template file 
/usr/local/share/cups/templates/header.tmpl - Permission denied
E [02/May/2007:22:45:04 +0300] [CGI] Unable to open template file 
/usr/local/share/cups/templates/add-printer.tmpl - Permission denied
E [02/May/2007:22:45:04 +0300] [CGI] Unable to open template file 
/usr/local/share/cups/templates/trailer.tmpl - Permission denied

I [02/May/2007:22:48:13 +0300] Full reload complete.
I [02/May/2007:22:48:13 +0300] Listening to ::1:631 on fd 1...
I [02/May/2007:22:48:13 +0300] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 on fd 3...
I [02/May/2007:22:48:13 +0300] Listening to /var/run/cups.sock on fd 4...
I [02/May/2007:22:53:32 +0300] commptr=?OP=add-printer
I [02/May/2007:22:53:32 +0300] Started 
/usr/local/libexec/cups/cgi-bin/admin.cgi (pid=89770)
E [02/May/2007:22:53:32 +0300] [CGI] Unable to open template file 
/usr/local/share/cups/templates/header.tmpl - Permission denied
E [02/May/2007:22:53:32 +0300] [CGI] Unable to open template file 
/usr/local/share/cups/templates/add-printer.tmpl - Permission denied
E [02/May/2007:22:53:32 +0300] [CGI] Unable to open template file 
/usr/local/share/cups/templates/trailer.tmpl - Permission denied

I [02/May/2007:22:55:10 +0300] Saving remote.cache...
I [02/May/2007:22:56:18 +0300] Full reload complete.
E [02/May/2007:22:56:19 +0300] Unable to bind socket for address ::1:631 - 
Address already in use.
E [02/May/2007:22:56:19 +0300] Unable to bind socket for address 
127.0.0.1:631 - Address already in use.

I [02/May/2007:22:56:19 +0300] Listening to /var/run/cups.sock on fd 2...
E [02/May/2007:22:56:19 +0300] cupsdStartBrowsing: Unable to bind 
broadcast socket - Address already in use.

I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Listening to ::1:631 (IPv6)
I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 (IPv4)
I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Listening to /var/run/cups.sock (Domain)
I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Loaded configuration file 
/usr/local/etc/cups/cupsd.conf
I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Using default TempDir of 
/var/spool/cups/tmp...
I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Cleaning out old temporary files in 
/var/spool/cups/tmp...

I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Configured for up to 100 clients.
I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Allowing up to 100 client connections per 
host.

I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Using policy default as the default!
I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Full reload is required.
I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Loaded MIME database from 
'/usr/local/etc/cups': 34 types, 38 filters...
I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Loading job cache file 
/var/cache/cups/job.cache...

I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Full reload complete.
E [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Unable to bind socket for address ::1:631 - 
Address already in use.
E [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Unable to bind socket for address 
127.0.0.1:631 - Address already in use.

I [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] Listening to /var/run/cups.sock on fd 2...
E [02/May/2007:22:58:22 +0300] cupsdStartBrowsing: Unable to bind 
broadcast socket - Address already in use.

I [02/May/2007:22:58:48 +0300] commptr=list+1+0+requested-attributes=all
I [02/May/2007:22:58:48 +0300] Started 
/usr/local/libexec/cups/daemon/cups-driverd (pid=89822)
E [02/May/2007:22:58:48 +0300] [cups-driverd] Unable to open PPD directory 
/usr/local/share/cups/model: Permission denied

I [02/May/2007:22:59:38 +0300] commptr=list+1+0+requested-attributes=all
I [02/May/2007:22:59:38 +0300] Started 
/usr/local/libexec/cups/daemon/cups-driverd (pid=89823)
E [02/May/2007:22:59:38 +0300] [cups-driverd] Unable to open PPD directory 
/usr/local/share/cups/model: Permission denied

I [02/May/2007:22:59:52 +0300] commptr=list+1+0+requested-attributes=all
I [02/May/2007:22:59:52 +0300] Started 
/usr/local/libexec/cups/daemon/cups-driverd (pid=89824)
E [02/May/2007:22:59:52 +0300] [cups-driverd] Unable to open PPD directory 
/usr/local/share/cups/model: Permission denied


I tried commenting out all security and authorization settings in the conf 
file, but it did not help.  I compared the settings on the files and 
folders listed in the log file to another machine that is working with 
cups and they all seem correct.  Not sure what to try now, any help would be

Re: IP FILTER and network address


 Appending your IP with /8 ends you up with two rules that essentially
 look like this (AFAIK):
 
 pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.0.0.0/8 to $myip port = 22
 flags S keep state
 

Oh, off course. I was applying the rule in the wrong direction, from the right 
to the left. Silly :-)
Thanks ...


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Re: List of UPCs that can auto-shutdown FreeBSD

2007-05-02 Thread Manolis Kiagias

L Goodwin wrote:
 I need help finding a UPS that can tell a computer
 running FreeBSD 6.2 to shutdown. I checked the
 hardware compatibility -- UPS are not even listed.

 The APC Back-UPS ES USB 750VA w/TEL  COAX meets my
 needs, but they don't offer the software (PowerChute
 Personal Edition) for FreeBSD (closest is Mac OS X).

 My budget is $100 (+/- $20). The system is a modest
 server (ASUS PDB-DS w/onboard SCSI controller, Intel
 PII/400, 3 SCSI HDD, 1 CD-ROM, 1 3.5 floppy, video
 card, NIC), 14 monitor, kbd and mouse. In addition
 there is a cable modem and a 4-port router.

 I'd prefer a major brand that I can purchase locally,
 if possible. If you know of one that will definitely
 work, please respond. Thanks!

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The port sysutils/apcupsd (as others have said) works flawlessly.
I have two APCs - similar to the one you consider: a BackUPS ES-500 and
an RS-500 (both USB)
They both work without problems with apcupsd both on FreeBSD and Linux.
The ES 750VA you consider is mostly equivalent to ES-500, simply more VA.
apcupsd is also very easy to configure.
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kernel compiling problem

2007-05-02 Thread Kantor Zsolt

Hi,I'm using FreeBsd 6.2 Release i386,If I remove from the configuiration file 
some wireless NIC devices I get the folowing error at the compilation:  . . .  
. 
. . . . 
MAKE=/usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh FYODOR
cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing  -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs 
-Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  
-fformat-extensions -std=c99  -nostdinc -I-  -I. -I/usr/src/sys 
-I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter 
-I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm 
-I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include 
opt_global.h -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 
--param large-function-growth=1000  -mno-align-long-strings 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 
-ffreestanding -Werror  vers.c
linking kernel
if_ural.o(.text+0x66): In function `ural_free_tx_list':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_free_node'
if_ural.o(.text+0x2d3): In function `ural_rxeof':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_find_rxnode'
if_ural.o(.text+0x2eb): In function `ural_rxeof':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_input'
if_ural.o(.text+0x2f1): In function `ural_rxeof':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_free_node'
if_ural.o(.text+0x893): In function `ural_start':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_find_txnode'
if_ural.o(.text+0x8b9): In function `ural_start':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_encap'
if_ural.o(.text+0xa0a): In function `ural_start':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_free_node'
if_ural.o(.text+0xa3f): In function `ural_start':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_encap'
if_ural.o(.text+0xa53): In function `ural_start':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_free_node'
if_ural.o(.text+0xa65): In function `ural_start':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_crypto_encap'
if_ural.o(.text+0xe47): In function `ural_txeof':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_free_node'
if_ural.o(.text+0xeee): In function `ural_watchdog':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_watchdog'
if_ural.o(.text+0x1188): In function `ural_detach':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_ifdetach'
if_ural.o(.text+0x16f3): In function `ural_attach':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_ieee2mhz'
if_ural.o(.text+0x1719): In function `ural_attach':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_ifattach'
if_ural.o(.text+0x1754): In function `ural_attach':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_media_status'
if_ural.o(.text+0x175f): In function `ural_attach':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_media_init'
if_ural.o(.text+0x182b): In function `ural_attach':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_ieee2mhz'
if_ural.o(.text+0x185f): In function `ural_attach':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_ieee2mhz'
if_ural.o(.text+0x1894): In function `ural_attach':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_ieee2mhz'
if_ural.o(.text+0x18e6): In function `ural_attach':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_announce'
if_ural.o(.text+0x1b8e): In function `ural_set_chan':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_chan2ieee'
if_ural.o(.text+0x21c3): In function `ural_task':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_beacon_alloc'
if_ural.o(.text+0x2be0): In function `ural_media_change':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_media_change'
if_ural.o(.text+0x2c3e): In function `ural_media_change':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_media_change'
if_ural.o(.text+0x2cf7): In function `ural_ioctl':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_ioctl'
if_ural.o(.text+0xe5): In function `ural_next_scan':
: undefined reference to `ieee80211_next_scan'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FYODOR.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

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Re: kernel compiling problem

2007-05-02 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 02:19:36PM -0700, Kantor Zsolt wrote:
 Hi,I'm using FreeBsd 6.2 Release i386,If I remove from the configuiration 
 file some wireless NIC devices I get the folowing error at the compilation:  
 . . .  . 

Because you removed too much, so either don't do that (go back to
GENERIC) or add back the things you removed until you figure out what
it was.

Kris


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Re: kernel compiling problem

2007-05-02 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg


On May 2, 2007, at 4:19 PM, Kantor Zsolt wrote:

Hi,I'm using FreeBsd 6.2 Release i386,If I remove from the  
configuiration file some wireless NIC devices I get the folowing  
error at the compilation:  . . .


[snip]


if_ural.o(.text+0x66): In function `ural_free_tx_list':


[snip]

Zsolt,

Vedd ki a ural-t a konfiguraciodbol.


Comment out

 ural

in your kernel configuration.  It's listed as a USB device, but it  
depends on the wireless stuff.


Cheers,

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Re: kernel compiling problem

2007-05-02 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg


On May 2, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote:


On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 02:19:36PM -0700, Kantor Zsolt wrote:
Hi,I'm using FreeBsd 6.2 Release i386,If I remove from the  
configuiration file some wireless NIC devices I get the folowing  
error at the compilation:  . . .  .


Because you removed too much, so either don't do that (go back to
GENERIC) or add back the things you removed until you figure out what
it was.


In this case, he didn't remove enough.  If he doesn't want any  
wireless support, then he should also remove ural among the USB devices.


-j
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Re: List of UPCs that can auto-shutdown FreeBSD


--- Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/2/07 2:33 PM, L Goodwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  I need help finding a UPS that can tell a computer
  running FreeBSD 6.2 to shutdown. I checked the
  hardware compatibility -- UPS are not even listed.
  
  The APC Back-UPS ES USB 750VA w/TEL  COAX meets
 my
  needs, but they don't offer the software
 (PowerChute
  Personal Edition) for FreeBSD (closest is Mac OS
 X).
  
  My budget is $100 (+/- $20). The system is a
 modest
  server (ASUS PDB-DS w/onboard SCSI controller,
 Intel
  PII/400, 3 SCSI HDD, 1 CD-ROM, 1 3.5 floppy, video
  card, NIC), 14 monitor, kbd and mouse. In
 addition
  there is a cable modem and a 4-port router.
  
  I'd prefer a major brand that I can purchase
 locally,
  if possible. If you know of one that will
 definitely
  work, please respond. Thanks!
  
 Check out sysutils/apcupsd.  I have it running with
 similar APC UPS's, and it does exactly this.  
 I even added another destination line on some of the
 scripts it runs on different power events, and when
 the power is off long enough (5 seconds I believe), 
 I get a message sent to my cell phone (via smtp).
 -- 
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Thanks, Jonathan. The BE750BB is listed in the
Supported UPSes and Cables table, with a note:
using APC cables 940-0127A/B/C. There is no mention
on the APC web site of which cable the  BE750BB uses,
nor whether it comes with the cable (not even in the
user manual). Shouldn't any standard USB cable work?

I forgot to mention that this is a Samba server, and
that I would like to broadcast a warning to all
Windows clients that the server is shutting down. Is
there a FreeBSD/Samba command that will enable me to
do this?

Thanks also to Dan and Eric for information on Network
UPS Tools and apcupsd.
Dan, the Back-UPS ES USB (BE750BB) is not listed in
the on the Network UPS Tools hardware compatibility list.

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Re: IP FILTER and network address

2007-05-02 Thread Steve Bertrand

Tun Eler wrote:
 Appending your IP with /8 ends you up with two rules that essentially
 look like this (AFAIK):

 pass in quick on $oif proto tcp from 217.0.0.0/8 to $myip port = 22
 flags S keep state

 
 Oh, off course. I was applying the rule in the wrong direction, from the 
 right to the left. Silly :-)

I don't quite know what you mean, but /32 is the single (host) IP, much
like:

192.168.1.3/24 == 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.254 (entire 192.168.1 network)

and:

172.16.28.18/16 == 172.16.0.1 - 172.16.255.254 (entire 172.16 network)

...what you had was the entire 217. network ;)

Appending a /32 to an address means this address, and only this address.

Regards,

Steve
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Apache2 Virtual Hosts and FreeBSD fd limits.

2007-05-02 Thread Eduardo Meyer


I have had a number of problems with Apache, concerning the number of
virtual hosts I have. I know it is a FAQ but raising FD_SETSIZE on
apache didnt help, am now trying to raise some limits with FreeBSD.

I have raised maxfiles, but my openfiles do increase and the problem
with Apache persists.

#  sysctl kern.maxfiles
kern.maxfiles: 30
# sysctl kern.openfiles
kern.openfiles: 6519

What else should I tune up to have more FDs available?

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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

2007-05-02 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey

On Tuesday, 1 May 2007 at 9:28:27 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote:
On 5/1/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Monday, 30 April 2007 at 11:02:54 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote:
I'm trying to create a pristine xorg.conf, but I've been unable to
find proper values for HorizSync and VertRefresh for my Dell Latitude
D610.

I've tried the values presented in MonitorsDB

http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/src/hwdata/MonitorsDB?view=markup

for Dell 1400x1050 Laptop Display Panel, which are HorizSync
31.5-90.0 and VertRefresh 59.0-75.0, but I get a warning in
/var/log/Xorg.0.log for both of them saying they are not within DDC
ranges.

I've tried looking around the Dell web pages, but I haven't found any
pages mentioning these parameters (not too surprising, really).

I've tried to leave these settings out, but even then I get a warning:
(WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 60-66.3158kHz not within DDC hsync
ranges.

I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the other warnings I get
during startup:
(WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum
and
(WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed.

This, along with the follow-ups, reminds me of a problem I had with a
Dell Inspiron 5100 some years ago. In that case, X didn't map the
video BIOS correctly, and so it wasn't able to read the information
from the BIOS. The information includes things like the panel
geometry, which in my case was being reported as 65535x65535 pixels.
In your case we have:

# From Xorg.0.log
DisplaySize 286 214

That's clearly wrong too.

It's equal to the values in the
documentationhttp://support.euro.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/latd610/en/ug_en/specs.htm,
rounded off to integers.

Yes, my bad. I was confusing it with the number of pixels.

See http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-jul2003.html#25 for more
details. It's worth mentioning that the problem was fixed in a
later version of the system, and I can now install X on it with no
problems.

If this looks familiar, a couple of suggestions:

1: Try XFree86. Maybe that will work better.

I'm a bit reluctant to straying away from the recommended setup on my work
machine.

Even if the recommended setup doesn't work? Note that we have both in
the ports collection, so the definition of recommended sounds more
like default to me.

Besides, isn't the code base for this and X.org still very similar?

Yes, but there have been many edge cases where one works and the other
doesn't. In general, X.org brings better results, but it's worth a
try.

2: Get hold of the latest Knoppix CD and see if that works. If it
does, it might help fix the problem under FreeBSD.

Do you mean running
Xorg -configure
and see if it gives the right information?

No.

If not, could you elaborate a bit? Thanks!

Get hold of the latest Knoppix CD from http://www.knoppix.org/, burn
it to CD, boot from it and see if that works. Knoppix is a Linux
distribution that runs from CD, so it's good for this kind of test.

I note that none of the other messages that have gone by in this
thread have addressed what I consider to be the crucial point: you
have a BIOS mapping issue. It would be interesting to know what
version of FreeBSD you're running.

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Re: How to find HorizSync / VertRefresh rates?

2007-05-02 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey

On Tuesday,  1 May 2007 at  9:01:26 +0200, Victor Engmark wrote:
 On 4/30/07, Erik Osterholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could you post your Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf?  When Theory !=
 Practice, it's often helpful to have information like this to help
 determine what went wrong, so that in the future, Theory can ==
 Practice.

 Here you go: /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log from this
 morning.

I don't see the Xorg.0.log.  Also, it would be interesting to see how
the xorg.conf differs from the one you got from X -configure.

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Re: No SMB/Samba support on Windows Home Editions


--- Steve Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  1) Windows Home editions (including XP and
 Vista)
  have support for SMB protocol disabled in Active
  Directory Domain Connections functionality!
  Is this true?
 
  ...
 
 I've been doing this for a long time (just not with
 Vista), but what
 was said is just as true for XP, so I assume nothing
 further is
 disabled in vista.
 
 There's been alot of replies over the weeked, but I
 don't think any
 cuts to the heart of the matter.
 
 * They are just telling you you can't have a
 domain or active
 directory, we actually ran one for a while, and the
 maintenence cost
 to keep the thing happy was one of the factors that
 made me learn
 fbsd.
 
 * When someone said 'peer to peer', I think they
 were really talking
 about a workgroup as opposed to a domain - it's
 not really peer to
 peer, afaik, but the analogy works.
 
 1) Just set your 'home' box to a random 'workgroup'
 in the network
 setup - you are not going to use it anyway.
 
 2) Get your smb box running.
 
 3) Map a network drive in windows, and use the IP
 for the smb box.  I
 have NEVER had a 'workgroup' function correctly. 
 Boxes all wired on
 the same 100-T switch, and they still can't see
 eachother?  Amazing.
 Just use the IP adress (i.e.
 \\192.168.1.xyz\mysmbshare) to map the
 drive and you will never have a problem.  Oh, and as
 you are on a fbsd
 box, I assume the capitalization of 'mysmbshare'
 must be correct,
 although samba might 'fix' that for you.  I just
 followed the
 instructions in the handbook and samba.org, and had
 things working in
 an hour or two.
 

Thanks, Steve. I resolved the hostname/IP resolution
issue by specifying them in etc/hosts file on each
Windows client (still need to make server's IP address
static in the router, but it's working fine for now).
After that, I was able to mount using net use
/persistent:Yes s: \\SERVER\sharename.

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NFS server not responding/is alive again

2007-05-02 Thread Janos Dohanics


I have a FreeBSD 4.11 machine which mounts a volume from a Netapp ONTap.
The FreeBSD machine also acts as a Samba PDC. The Samba volumes are in
the NFS-mounted volume. There are about a dozen Win2K workstations on
the network served by the Samba server.

Lately I have noticed that /var/log/messages is full with entries like:

... /kernel: nfs server filer01:/vol/vol0/psa: not responding
... /kernel: nfs server filer01:/vol/vol0/psa: is alive again

It seems that the server sometimes is unresponsive for less than a
second, many other times it's unresponsive for a number of seconds (as
many as 8 seconds).

This happens quite frequently, sometimes 60+ times an hour, perhaps not
surprising that it doesn't happen or happens rarely when the
workstations are not being used.

There are also 15-20 got bad cookie messages per day.

The NFS volume is mounted with rw,-r=1024.

I have looked at some nfsstat output, but I don't know what if anything
should I be looking for there.

Is this a FreeBSD or an ONTap problem? What can I do to fix it?
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Re: Apache2 Virtual Hosts and FreeBSD fd limits.

2007-05-02 Thread Steve Bertrand

Eduardo Meyer wrote:
 I have had a number of problems with Apache, concerning the number of
 virtual hosts I have. I know it is a FAQ but raising FD_SETSIZE on
 apache didnt help, am now trying to raise some limits with FreeBSD.

I may have missed any previous posts, but can you inform of exactly what
the problem/symptoms are? Error messages?

What about:

# uname -a
# apachectl -v

 I have raised maxfiles, but my openfiles do increase and the problem
 with Apache persists.

Does it only affect Apache?

Steve
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cleaning uploads

2007-05-02 Thread jekillen


Hello again:
Does anyone on this list know of a system or software bundle
that can be used with php to clean uploaded files. Specifically,
embedded php or shell scripts, shell escape chars, viruses,
executable code in image files, anything that might be hazardous
in any file that might be capable of being sent as an e-mail attachment?
Using FreeBSD 6.2, Apache 1.3.37,  php 5.2.1, web site to receive
uploads will be using ssl.
I have asked on the php general question list but have not gotten
a useable response.
Thanks in advance;
Jeff K

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Got Phase Working....

2007-05-02 Thread Gary Kline

Guys,

This is on my Ubuntu server, but ought o work here also.  I
just installed the Lesstif package, typed 

make -f Makefile.man, 

and everything buuilt.   It pops up a black suare/widget/window
with various things to tweak and a minutes later MIDI was
playing.   Nthing like outstanding, but it's still pretty
interesting, IM (H/NSH:) Opinion.   Stay tuned

gary

PS:  May be best to reply privately to save the bandwidth; not
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Time Synchronizing Between Two Servers

2007-05-02 Thread Duane Hill



I have two servers that have to have their time synchronized between the 
two to within one second. What is recommended?


Currently, I have ntpd running on one and have the other synchronizing it's 
time off the first.


Thanks
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Re: Time Synchronizing Between Two Servers

2007-05-02 Thread Jeff Mohler


Is that working?

If it is..seems you nailed it.


On 5/2/07, Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I have two servers that have to have their time synchronized between the
two to within one second. What is recommended?

Currently, I have ntpd running on one and have the other synchronizing
it's
time off the first.

Thanks
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Re: Time Synchronizing Between Two Servers

2007-05-02 Thread Duane Hill


On Wed, 2 May 2007, Jeff Mohler wrote:


Is that working?

If it is..seems you nailed it.


It is working. I just didn't know if there was another way. I will 
continue on with the way it is. Thanks.

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Re: freebsd-update question

2007-05-02 Thread Colin Percival

Angelin Lalev wrote:
 I have machine wich is build from sources (FreeBSD 6.2p3 , RELENG_6_2). 
 Can I use freebsd-update on that machine straight away?

Yes.  If you made any changes to the source code before compiling, you
may need to edit /etc/freebsd-update.conf (and in particular, the
IgnorePaths and UpdateIfUnmodified directives).

 In the article that appears on top of google 
 (http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-update/binup.html), there is section 
 about removing kernel counters, perllocal.pod etc. It's not clear for me if 
 that step should be taken at server's or the client's side. 

That's done at the server side, as part of the process of building the
updates.

Colin Percival
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RE: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices, Will FreeBSD accept Office 98 + Publisher?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dag-Erling
 Smørgrav
 Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:36 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions
 Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD simple enough for Novices,Will FreeBSD accept
 Office 98 + Publisher?

 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  The publishers got the scent of blood with the Harry Potter books, in
  some ways those books ruined the book publishing industry.
 Before, nobody
  thought a mere book could garner that kind of money.  Today,
 they all think
  this and so are all looking for the next Harry Potter series.
 As a result
  the publishing companies are buying manuscripts that they think
 are going to
  be big sellers based on what their marketing people think is
 selling, and
  not caring if the work is crap or not.  Good work that would
 likely have a
  niche market is being turned down, crappy work that they think is widely
  appealing is being published.

 This has nothing to do with Harry Potter, it started long before that.

  I suspect that eventually when another decade has gone by and we don't
  see another Harry Potter series rearing it's head out of the unknown
  muck, the publishing houses will get back to the work of just looking
  for good works for large and small markets, developing up and coming
  authors, and all the stuff they used to do B.H.P.

 I doubt it.  You know why?  Because the publishers are at the mercy of
 retailers, and retailers - especially supermarkets and large chains -
 aren't in the business of selling books, they are in the business of
 selling *a* book.  You know which book I mean: the one that's piled
 waist high on a pallet right inside the door.

 Everything else in the store is a loss.  A book doesn't have to stay
 on the shelf very long for the hypothetical profit to be eaten up by
 the cost of storing it and of tying up your cash in inventory.  They
 might as well glue the books to the shelves, and save the cost of
 processing a hypothetical sale and restocking.

 The pallet is *it*.

 Customers don't seem to mind - when you're looking for something to
 read on the train or give away as a present or you just want to be
 able to follow the conversation around the water cooler at work, you
 rarely go further than the pallet.  The odds are, that's the book your
 colleagues are discussing anyway.

Sigh.  All very true.  And the worst part of it is,
I kid you not, SEVEN FRAGGING YEARS after AW has shipped books to some of
these retailers I am STILL getting chargebacks on my royalties for returned
books.  Oh, the quantity isn't high - it's down to about maybe 5-10 books
a quarter now - but those retailers appear to have no problem with letting
a book sit for 5 years, then returning it
for credit back to the publisher.  I have no clue why AW gives them credit.
Probably, they are afraid of never getting an order from the retailer again.

Luckily I had the foresight to not sign an advance contract, so they have
no legal claim to get the money out of me - but if I ever publish with
them again, I'm sure that negative balance will come out of the woodwork.

 This is the same phenomenon that, in the game industry, killed the
 combat flight simulator and almost killed the adventure game.  It's
 not that people don't buy them, it's that retailers don't want to sell
 them because they don't sell in large volumes immediately upon their
 release.

Yes, and that is why I buy less and less specific stuff from retailers.
I only buy commodity items nowadays from retailers.

Case in point.  When I put together my latest server from leftovers,
3 fans were bad, one was on the CPU heatsink and the other two were in
an odd area of the case.  There was no way in hell that I could buy
replacements locally.  And these were not strange sized fans.  The best
I could do is a local electronics distributor could order them for me.
At about $10-$15 per fan.  And I'm in the middle of a city, not in
podunkville.  I ended up waiting a few days and buying them online -
grand total for all 3 was under $15, and they were good quality ball
bearing, not sleeve bearing junk.

Time was that the retailers understood that at any given time, 1/3 to
1/2 of their inventory wouldn't make money because it would just move
too slow.  However, the existence of said inventory would draw the
customers into the store and keep them coming back.  And when they
were in the store they would be buying the profitable stuff because
it was convenient, because they were standing right there.

Then the MBAs moved in and told the retailers to dump everything that
didn't move fast.  So the retailers trimmed inventory, and reduced the
number of sku's on the shelf.  Now the retailers are wondering why all
the customers are leaving them and buying at the big box stores.  It's
because when the strip mall retailer has the same inventory that the
big box retailer has, you might as well save money at the big box.

I've seen

RE: List of UPCs that can auto-shutdown FreeBSD


Make sure when you buy your UPS and motherboard that
you set it so that it will turn back on automatically,
without human intervention.  Some UPS will not do that
if their batteries get drained and they shut themselves
down.  And some motherboards will not either.

Another good feature is the ability to tell the UPS that
the system is turned off, so that the UPS can shut down
and save it's batteries.

Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of L Goodwin
 Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:33 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: List of UPCs that can auto-shutdown FreeBSD
 
 
 I need help finding a UPS that can tell a computer
 running FreeBSD 6.2 to shutdown. 
 
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Re: can't zip large files 2gb

 I haven't been paying 100% attention. Just how does it fail? What do you
 mean by corrupt?
 
 Does the process run to completion?

All programs zip with no errors. On reading;

root# bzip2 -t zippedfile.bz2
bzip2: 3s1.com-smartstage_ftp-full-20070502-0125AM.1b.tar.bz2: 
data integrity (CRC) error in data

You can use the `bzip2recover' program to attempt to recover
data from undamaged sections of corrupted files.

- gzip also sites a crc error  
- can't remember rzip's error, (it does output an error.)
- uncompress goes without echoing error but tar expanded is
  not able to be untarred.

 Are the output zip files reasonable in size?

The zipped file size seems reasonable in each case.

 Are the expanded files reasonable in size? 

expanding will not complete, except uncompress, which expands the 
file to the original size, plus 6 bites, then the tar file expanded
is unreadable.

If so where does the mismatch
 start?

on expanding, it seems the error happens near or at the end of
the expanding process before halting and exiting with error,
that is if I attempt to read the file with tar -tzf filename.tgz
in gzip's case or tar -tyf filename.bz2 in bzip2's case.

 
 Is the problem always in the same place for the same input file?

Pretty much, but I can't say if it is exactly the same in each case.

I am going to attempt swapping memory and see if the error continues.
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Re: Time Synchronizing Between Two Servers

2007-05-02 Thread Dan Nelson

In the last episode (May 03), Duane Hill said:
  On Wed, 2 May 2007, Jeff Mohler wrote:
 
  Is that working?
 
  If it is..seems you nailed it.
 
  It is working. I just didn't know if there was another way. I will
  continue on with the way it is. Thanks.

Yes, ntp is the best way to synchronise time.  If you also point one of
the machines to some pool.ntp.org servers, you will also be in synch
with the rest of the world :)

http://www.pool.ntp.org/

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Re: Time Synchronizing Between Two Servers

2007-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On 02/05/07, Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 2 May 2007, Jeff Mohler wrote:

 Is that working?

 If it is..seems you nailed it.

It is working. I just didn't know if there was another way. I will
continue on with the way it is. Thanks.


I prefer to have one machine (generally something
with a server class motherboard since those seem
to have better clocks) running ntpd(8) and it also
serving as the local timed(8) master (-F localhost -M).

It may very well be noisier than just serving out ntp
to the local network, what with talk about elections
and such every 4 minutes, but generally everything
is kept within 0.050 seconds (and running ntpd on
all of the local machines feels like serious overkill).

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Re: can't zip large files 2gb

2007-05-02 Thread Igor B. Bykhalo

Hello David,

Wednesday, May 2, 2007, 8:46:56 AM, you wrote:

 On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 11:53:55PM -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 11:22:28PM -0400, David Banning wrote:
  Another piece of info - I just complied rzip and it seems I 
  have the same problem there! There must be something in common,
  that these programs are using...
 
 Is your filesystem full? :)

 Not at all;

Just guessing:

 Filesystem1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/ad0s1a  503966   11072835292224%/
 /dev/ad0s1f  2579982952820783212%/tmp
   ^^
   Your /tmp is about 250 MB

 /dev/ad0s1g75407576 51862570  1751240075%/usr
 /dev/ad0s1e  503966   26056020309056%/var
   ^^
Your /var (with /var/tmp) is about 500MB

Can't it be that zip just don't have enough space for temporary storage?


 procfs44 0   100%/proc
 linprocfs 44 0   100%
 /usr/compat/linux/proc
 70.52.121.240:/usr/backup  75331512 15213578  5409141422%/usr/optex
 /dev/ad1s1e   307684276 73248808 20982072626%/tusr
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RE: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

 -Original Message-
 From: Bart Silverstrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:01 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: John Levine; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Greylisting -- Was: Anti Spam

 I would disagree on the blacklisting part.  I think that a lot of the
 bulk software *doesn't* retry, a lot of it is spoofing headers so mail
 isn't going back to where it would if the sender were legitimate, etc.

The spoofing has nothing to do with anything.  Greylisting works at the
initial connection phase before the sender has completed the transaction,
the sender knows that the mail hasn't gone through, the headers aren't
used to send a response to the sender.  I assume you know that, but the
way your wording this, someone unfamiliar with it may not understand this
point.

Sure, a lot of -old- bulk mail software doesen't retry - when they started
putting cars on the road, the majority of people still had horses.  But,
once they started putting cars on the road, the horses's days were
numbered.

If the majority of spammers spamming you are using old software, your
lucky.  The majority certainly isn't using old software when they spam me.

 Having to send mail to a location more than once means expending 2
 connects instead of 1.  It's a very small tax, but it's one I'm willing
 to impose if it makes their lives one tenth of one percent more
 of a hassle.

How does it do that?  Spammmers all send from compromised systems,
and all of this is done under script control.

  I then added to this later on the intention to show that depending on
  greylisting alone will not work in the long haul, because it is easy
  to program around it.  Which the spammers will do once a
 majority of sites
  use greylisting, and indeed, many spammers are already starting to do
  right now.

 Like I said...if it taxes their resources even one tenth of one percent,
 I'm for it.

It's not their resources, it's the resources they have stolen from other
people by breaking into their systems.  Greylisting really, and truly, isn't
a problem for spammers, unless it's coupled with use of blacklists.

  yah yah yah whatever.  As I said before, you are so lost and hung up on
  the monitoring example that you have completely misinterpreted
 everything
  that I've said.

 Then why did you keep harping on it after I and others pointed out why
 your complaint wasn't such a show stopper?

Well, because clearly you didn't even understand the example.  You kept
talking
about me reconfiguring the greylisting on -my- server, as if that would
have anything to do with it.  It appears you have got it now, though.

 I'm interested in knowing where in my discussions I said it was the only
 thing to use, the only one I DO use, and that it was a cureall that I
 loved so much.  I was personally looking at trying to combine SA,
 greylisting, and tarpitting, along with filtering by headers and
 stripping or sanitizing attachments/HTML if possible.  You never even
 TRIED to bring up any other solution nor did you discuss the
 effectiveness of other methods when combined.  If you did, point it out.

In a message dated 4/25/2007 to Christopher Hilton:

...Actually, no.  Greylisting works because it delays the spam injector
long enough that the injector will get blacklisted by the time that the
greylist opens the door for the mail to come in.  Greylisting alone
by itself is getting less and less effective every day

   At most, as I recall, you mentioned SA was more effective than
 greylisting

No, what I said on 4/25 was:

...Since SA has a lot of the major blacklist servers as score-feeders, the
spam that gets past the greylist just gets tagged by SA...

 (so?  Combine them.  Greylisting helps lower the system load
 when a message does get to SA).  You pointed out you use greylisting and
 it was dying out in effectiveness, and you gave an example that hinted
 if certain businesses use it your world would fall apart because you
 wouldn't be notified in time and your customers would leave you in droves.

I said:

...There are legitimate technical reasons that someone may want their mail
to not be greylisted.  For example...

And, there are.  I'm not talking about JUST me.  I'm talking about any
customer
that is dependent on using e-mail as a kind of instant-message system.  Say
what you want about how e-mail isn't intended for that, the fact remains
that
a lot of people use it like that.  There's a lot of stuff that people use
in ways it wasn't intended, you can grumble about it all you want, but you
aren't going to be able to change it.  Legitimacy is in the eye of the
beholder.
E-mail works for some people as an instant message system - and to be
perfectly honest I would much rather have customers running e-mail as an
instant message system than MSN or AOL's instant message clients.

  In summary, I run several busy mailservers, all that use greylisting.  I
  have used greylisting for quite a while.  You can

Re: can't zip large files 2gb