freebsd 6.4 - 7.3 upgrade failure, ports openssl, and libz.so.3 versus libz.so.4
Hi, I am upgrading a system from freebsd 6.4 to freebsd 7.3 from source. On this system, the ports openssl package has been installed. With the make buildworld, the compilation of sendmail fails with the message: /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/ld: warning: libz.so.3, needed by /usr/local/lib/libssl.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) Problem is that the new kernel is expecting (or compiling the sources against) libz.so.4 (/usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libz/libz.so.4). libz.so.3 is available in /lib/libz.so.3 (FreeBSD 6.4). Is there any way to break this dependency, such that the make buildworld completes successfully? It is openssl from ports depending on libz.so.3 of FreeBSD 6.4, sendmail is compiled with openssl from ports for FreeBSD 7.3, which provides libz.so.4... The upgrade path 6.4 - 7.3 with ports openssl is probably not unique, others will have a similar upgrade path. Can I specify something (/etc/make.conf?) such that 'make buildworld' makes use of base openssl and not ports openssl? Or should I uninstall ports openssl (and recompile half of my ports, and later again recompile all for freebsd 7.3)? Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks, -- Benno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
sendmail resolv.conf changes
Hello, When using a laptop it is normal that there are some changes in resolv.conf during the live, for example: boot time: no network available start of PPP over UMTS: resolv.conf from provider start VPN to connect to company: resolv.conf from company ... it seems that sendmail is not aware of such changes in the resolv.conf and always get stuck with the old DNS and ofc does not work on incoming mails (provided by fetchmail). A restart helps, but is there some better way to let sendmail switch to the new DNS environment when resolv.conf changes? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sendmail resolv.conf changes
Hello, When using a laptop it is normal that there are some changes in resolv.conf during the live, for example: boot time: no network available start of PPP over UMTS: resolv.conf from provider start VPN to connect to company: resolv.conf from company ... it seems that sendmail is not aware of such changes in the resolv.conf and always get stuck with the old DNS and ofc does not work on incoming mails (provided by fetchmail). A restart helps, but is there some better way to let sendmail switch to the new DNS environment when resolv.conf changes? Thanks My very wide guess would be that Sendmail starts before system obtain network settings from DHCP. But I do not remember Sendmail settings well enough. -- bEsT rEgArDs| Confidence is what you have before you tomasz dereszynski | understand the problem. -- Woody Allen | Spes confisa Deo| In theory, theory and practice are much numquam confusa recedit | the same. In practice they are very | different. -- Albert Einstein ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sendmail resolv.conf changes
El día Tuesday, September 14, 2010 a las 09:15:49AM +0100, tomasz dereszynski escribió: Hello, When using a laptop it is normal that there are some changes in resolv.conf during the live, for example: boot time: no network available start of PPP over UMTS: resolv.conf from provider start VPN to connect to company: resolv.conf from company ... it seems that sendmail is not aware of such changes in the resolv.conf and always get stuck with the old DNS and ofc does not work on incoming mails (provided by fetchmail). A restart helps, but is there some better way to let sendmail switch to the new DNS environment when resolv.conf changes? Thanks My very wide guess would be that Sendmail starts before system obtain network settings from DHCP. Your guess is correct :-) What I wanted to say: sendmail runs and DHCP changes in certain situations the IP, routing and DNS, and sendmail does not adopt on these changes. matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sendmail resolv.conf changes
El día Tuesday, September 14, 2010 a las 09:15:49AM +0100, tomasz dereszynski escribió: Hello, When using a laptop it is normal that there are some changes in resolv.conf during the live, for example: boot time: no network available start of PPP over UMTS: resolv.conf from provider start VPN to connect to company: resolv.conf from company ... it seems that sendmail is not aware of such changes in the resolv.conf and always get stuck with the old DNS and ofc does not work on incoming mails (provided by fetchmail). A restart helps, but is there some better way to let sendmail switch to the new DNS environment when resolv.conf changes? Thanks My very wide guess would be that Sendmail starts before system obtain network settings from DHCP. Your guess is correct :-) What I wanted to say: sendmail runs and DHCP changes in certain situations the IP, routing and DNS, and sendmail does not adopt on these changes. delay Sendmail start to after network settings loaded from DHCP. not sure if there is any 'documentation correct' way of doing that but 'home crafted' one would be to move /etc/rc.sendmail to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/blah.sendmail.sh and remove it from rc.config hope someone here knows more proper way and can advise. -- bEsT rEgArDs| Confidence is what you have before you tomasz dereszynski | understand the problem. -- Woody Allen | Spes confisa Deo| In theory, theory and practice are much numquam confusa recedit | the same. In practice they are very | different. -- Albert Einstein ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
i386 jail on AMD64 system not seeing network. AMD64 jails working fine.
I am trying to run a teamspeak server, so I need an i386 jail. However, the jail seems to have issues with connecting to the network. * I set up the jail (make clean buildworld install distribution TARGET=i386 DESTDIR=/data/jail/speak/), and get no errors. * I mount /data/jail/speak/dev and /data/jail/speak/proc as I would on an AMD64 jail. * I copy over my /etc/hosts file, with an entry added for the teamspeak jail * I copy over my /etc/resolv.conf file * I set up the rc.conf file with: defaultrouter=192.168.1.1 hostname=speak.mydomain #the following are also set on my web and email jails amd_enable=NO sshd_enable=YES usbd_enable=NO rpc_bind=NO * I nfs mounts /usr/ports to /data/jail/speak/usr/ports * I start the jail with jail -s 2 /data/jail/speak speak.mydomain 192.168.1.9 /bin/sh ** The shell starts * I installed bash and lynx through ports - both have their distfiles and those of dependencies already downloaded * I left the jail and came back in with jail -s 2 /data/jail/speak speak.mydomain 192.168.1.9 /usr/local/bin/bash Up to this point, there is no trouble. * I tried installing teamspeak: cd /usr/ports/audio/teamspeak_server; make install clean = Couldn't fetch it. Please try to retrieve this = port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/teamspeak and try again *** Error code 1 * I try to connect to either my router or the web server I have at 192.168.1.5 with lynx. First I get: Making HTTP connection to 192.168.1.1 (or 192.168.1.5), and the browser sits there for a while. This is followed by: Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. * From the base system or either of the other jails, I can connect to either. * I try the jail again, this time with '-s 0', and I still can't connect to either site. The main system conf does not have the jails loaded specifically, I start the jails manually. The ifconfig setups look like this: hostname=server.mydomain ifconfig_nfe0=inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 #we are borg ifconfig_nfe0_alias0=inet 192.168.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_nfe0_alias1=inet 192.168.1.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_nfe0_alias2=inet 192.168.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_nfe0_alias3=inet 192.168.1.6 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_nfe0_alias4=inet 192.168.1.7 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_nfe0_alias5=inet 192.168.1.8 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_nfe0_alias6=inet 192.168.1.9 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_nfe0_alias7=inet 192.168.1.25 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_nfe0_alias8=inet 192.168.1.80 netmask 255.255.255.0 defaultrouter=192.168.1.1 Anyone know what might be causing this? Thanks, -Jim Stapleton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask...
I'm the guy who started this thread. First, I'm not unhappy with any of you. Each of you, every single person who has, at any time, been a member of the team working on *any* FBSD sub-system, has contributed more than me. I don't criticize you, I salute you, thank you. And stop throwing bricks at each other, we, the users, continue to need your skills and your contributions. Now, I wrote my note for a reason -- which no one seems to have touched on (maybe I missed it, that's certainly possible.) A typical FBSD user wants to be able to do a ports-based install, or perhaps a pkg_add and, presto, out of the box, have a browser. And, here it comes... Wait for it. Without too much trouble, have a running Java, connect to that browser and working. And it doesn't matter if some of us like or don't like Java. It's here and it's staying here. In ten years, and probably in twenty years, it will still be an important part of a typical OS environment. I understand that Sun declined to allow pre-built configurations to be shipped. Okay. Now, (here I am not asking for a public response, nor am I suggesting that anyone email me privately about this,) does anyone have an in with Oracle management? Because we need Oracle to reverse their decision in this matter (remember, they inherited Java from Sun, but their management team is slowly buying in to the decisions that Sun made. We want to give the Oracle people good reasons to change their thinking in regards to Java. It may be theoretically possible for a current user to build, say, a Firefox browser with a working Java, but this happens at a time when that new machine is just coming up. One mistake sometimes makes the builder unsure what he needs to change in his environment to try again (boy, is that me!) So, assuming we can't get real change from Oracle, can we at least provide much better install instructions for naive users. Please. (And I am hoping that my notes generate both short-term fixes as well as more permanent policy changes on the part of Oracle.) Now, if Oracle won't adjust their thinking, I intend to look at Java sub-systems that are supplied and built by other people than Oracle. (It's called Open Source.) It would help me if the FreeBSD website provided somewhat better descriptions of the programs offered. Those descriptions are perfect -- if you already know what you're doing. But in this area I am a naive user. For example: Do JDK's (java development kit's,) provide anything for an end-user? Or are they only useful for people building applications? Also: To run Java with a browser, do I need anything more than a client run-time environment? If so, what? Oh, one more thing... I don't do compiler stuff anymore, I did once. And to those of you who want to toss Java, you've got a lot of work to do, not only in terms of overcoming the number of applications but also the design, the people who've worked on it did great work. It's not going away. What will happen is what's already happening, stuff like IceTea is being built. But scrapping Java?, not for at least 25 years, more probably. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Jules Gilbert jules.sto...@gmail.com wrote: About Java. Using java with freebsd/mozilla or another browser. Some questions: Is GNU java sufficient? I need to be able to run a browser with Java. No alternative -- and no I don't want to run windoz. I'm trying to do an 8.1 install. Does this problem exist with Sun's x86 OS? Does anyone have a website or even a set of notes as to the right way to do this. Now an opinion. If Oracle isn't going to help us, we should look around for an alternative, even inventing something else, something that isn't Sun/Oracle/Java. Because this problem has been getting progressively worse for the past three or four years or so (longer?,) and, look around, it's hurting the FreeBSD community. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: sendmail resolv.conf changes
-Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of tomasz dereszynski Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:28 AM To: Matthias Apitz; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail resolv.conf changes El día Tuesday, September 14, 2010 a las 09:15:49AM +0100, tomasz dereszynski escribió: Hello, When using a laptop it is normal that there are some changes in resolv.conf during the live, for example: boot time: no network available start of PPP over UMTS: resolv.conf from provider start VPN to connect to company: resolv.conf from company ... it seems that sendmail is not aware of such changes in the resolv.conf and always get stuck with the old DNS and ofc does not work on incoming mails (provided by fetchmail). A restart helps, but is there some better way to let sendmail switch to the new DNS environment when resolv.conf changes? Thanks My very wide guess would be that Sendmail starts before system obtain network settings from DHCP. Your guess is correct :-) What I wanted to say: sendmail runs and DHCP changes in certain situations the IP, routing and DNS, and sendmail does not adopt on these changes. delay Sendmail start to after network settings loaded from DHCP. not sure if there is any 'documentation correct' way of doing that but 'home crafted' one would be to move /etc/rc.sendmail to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/blah.sendmail.sh and remove it from rc.config hope someone here knows more proper way and can advise. It might be an idea to (mis)use the script option in dhclient.conf to restart sendmail (/etc/rc.d/sendmail restart) after a lease has been aquired. See 'man dhclient.conf'. -- Regards, T. Koeman, MTh/BSc/BPsy; Technical Monk MediaMonks B.V. (www.mediamonks.com) Please quote all replies in correspondence. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask...
(Trimming the CC list a bit.) On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Jules Gilbert jules.sto...@gmail.com wrote: I understand that Sun declined to allow pre-built configurations to be shipped. Okay. Now, (here I am not asking for a public response, nor am I suggesting that anyone email me privately about this,) does anyone have an in with Oracle management? If you're holding your breath waiting for Oracle to answer questions, about all you're going to do is turn blue. They have a policy of not communicating about the status of their products. Anyone with an in with management would probably be forbidden to talk about it. Take a look at how long they jerked the OpenSolaris folks around before dumping them and ask yourself if you want to volunteer for that kind of treatment. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: apropos returning same item twice
On Monday 13 September 2010 8:37:26 pm Alexander Best wrote: On Sat Sep 11 10, Steven Friedrich wrote: Why does apropos list mysql(1) twice? It doesn't return duplicates with apropos kde... maybe you have a gzip'ed and plain version in /usr ? see PR #4419. cheers. alex snip /snip find /usr -name mysql.1\* only returned one hit. /usr/local/man/man1/mysql.1.gz -- System Name: laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org Hardware: 2.80GHz Intel Pentium 4 (HTT) with 2 GB memory OS version:FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE i386 (6.9 MB kernel) manager(s):kde4-4.5.1 X windows: xorg-7.5X.Org X Server 1.7.5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
unix permissions questions
I found several directories whose permissions where set to dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com d...@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: sendmail resolv.conf changes
El día Tuesday, September 14, 2010 a las 05:49:07PM +0200, Terrence Koeman escribió: What I wanted to say: sendmail runs and DHCP changes in certain situations the IP, routing and DNS, and sendmail does not adopt on these changes. It might be an idea to (mis)use the script option in dhclient.conf to restart sendmail (/etc/rc.d/sendmail restart) after a lease has been aquired. See 'man dhclient.conf'. Actually I'm using hooks in devd(8) like: $ cat /usr/local/etc/devd/tun6.conf notify 0 { match system IFNET; match subsystem tun6; match typeLINK_UP; action /usr/local/etc/devd/tun6.sh $subsystem $type; }; $ cat /usr/local/etc/devd/tun6.sh #!/bin/sh # echo `date`: $0 $* /tmp/devd.out ( sleep 30 ; echo Doing: /etc/rc.d/sendmail onerestart /tmp/devd.out ; /etc/rc.d/sendmail onerestart ; ) exit 0 for each interface which might come up; but I was thinking that there must be a more general solution in sendmail or DNS itself; in any case, thanks for your idea; ... Please quote all replies in correspondence. No. See netiquette RFC: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Solidarity with the zionistic pirates of Israel? Not in my name! ¿Solidaridad con los piratas sionistas de Israel? ¡No en mi nombre! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix permissions questions
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), d...@safeport.com wrote: I found several directories whose permissions where set to dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. After a short read of man ls: s in the owner permissions = file is executable and set-user-ID mode is set S in the group permissions = file is not executable and set-group-ID mode is set T in the other permission = sticky bit is set, but not execute or search permission. Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search or execute; sticky bit is set. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix permissions questions
On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), d...@safeport.com wrote: I found several directories whose permissions where set to dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. After a short read of man ls: [ ... ] Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search or execute; sticky bit is set. Except that this is a directory, not a file :-) A bit of experimentation suggests that chmod 7500 .procmail are the permissions involved, which are silly. No group permissions enabled means setgid is meaningless, and I don't see any value for using the sticky bit here, either. Try using 0500, 0700, or maybe 4500/4700 instead. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix permissions questions
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), d...@safeport.com wrote: I found several directories whose permissions where set to dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. After a short read of man ls: s in the owner permissions = file is executable and set-user-ID mode is set S in the group permissions = file is not executable and set-group-ID mode is set T in the other permission = sticky bit is set, but not execute or search permission. Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search or execute; sticky bit is set. Thanks, I got that from the man page. My question, not stated very well, was can a non-root user set those permissions. If so, I obviously do not know how. _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com d...@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix permissions questions
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), d...@safeport.com wrote: I found several directories whose permissions where set to dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. After a short read of man ls: [ ... ] Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search or execute; sticky bit is set. Except that this is a directory, not a file :-) A bit of experimentation suggests that chmod 7500 .procmail are the permissions involved, which are silly. No group permissions enabled means setgid is meaningless, and I don't see any value for using the sticky bit here, either. Try using 0500, 0700, or maybe 4500/4700 instead. thanks all - the context of this: the users involved do not know what the chmod command is much less its syntax and I did not do this. What I was going for was could this be a procmail bug or perhaps something more alarming (to me as a sysadmin). _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com d...@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix permissions questions
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:04:58 -0700, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:32:40 -0400 (EDT), d...@safeport.com wrote: I found several directories whose permissions where set to dr-s--S--T 2 user group 512 Feb 22 2010 .procmail/ All were .procmail which is what we set for procmail logging and supporting recipes. In reading 'man ls' it seems (to me) this might result from losing the execute bit on the directory. Is this correct? Been BSDing since 1995 and have not seen this set of permissions. Thanks for any insights. After a short read of man ls: [ ... ] Result: User can execute SUID, group cannot execute, others cannot search or execute; sticky bit is set. Except that this is a directory, not a file :-) Thanks, I forgot to include that in my summary. :-) In this case, I wanted to say that the user can chdir / search that directory. A bit of experimentation suggests that chmod 7500 .procmail are the permissions involved, which are silly. No group permissions enabled means setgid is meaningless, and I don't see any value for using the sticky bit here, either. Try using 0500, 0700, or maybe 4500/4700 instead. I would think that's what the permissions should be - it roughly is equivalent to what a file with a similar purpose would look like for a (user's) private .procmail/ directory. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: unix permissions questions
On Sep 14, 2010, at 11:16 AM, d...@safeport.com wrote: A bit of experimentation suggests that chmod 7500 .procmail are the permissions involved, which are silly. No group permissions enabled means setgid is meaningless, and I don't see any value for using the sticky bit here, either. Try using 0500, 0700, or maybe 4500/4700 instead. thanks all - the context of this: the users involved do not know what the chmod command is much less its syntax and I did not do this. What I was going for was could this be a procmail bug or perhaps something more alarming (to me as a sysadmin). The permissions here are unexpected. procmail cares about clearing group and other permissions-- unless GROUP_PER_USER is set (cf http://partmaps.org/era/procmail/mini-faq.html#group-writable), which usually would be appropriate for FreeBSD since it encourages all userids to also have a corresponding groupid. Regards, -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Is it safe to run gjournal on aac-based system (BIO_FLUSH)?
Hello! I'm planning to install FreeBSD 8.1 on a system which has Adaptec 4805SAS RAID controller (using aac driver). I'd like to use gjournal for the data partition, but I have some doubts regarding the (lack of) BIO_FLUSH feature. I have another system with FreeBSD 7.3 and a different aac-based controller where I've been using gjournal for 3 years. Every time the system boots, it prints this warning: GEOM_JOURNAL: BIO_FLUSH not supported by aacd1s2. I understand that lack of BIO_FLUSH support means that data cannot be safely flushed to disk and that might cause corruption in case of sudden power loss. Is that correct? Anyway, since this system has battery-backed write cache, I'm not too worried. But on the system where I'm about to install now, the controller doesn't have a battery for its cache. Hence my question - does the aac driver on FreeBSD 8.1 still not support BIO_FLUSH? If so, I should probably avoid using gmirror on this system? -- Toomas Aas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: apropos returning same item twice
On Tue Sep 14 10, Steven Friedrich wrote: On Monday 13 September 2010 8:37:26 pm Alexander Best wrote: On Sat Sep 11 10, Steven Friedrich wrote: Why does apropos list mysql(1) twice? It doesn't return duplicates with apropos kde... maybe you have a gzip'ed and plain version in /usr ? see PR #4419. cheers. alex snip /snip find /usr -name mysql.1\* only returned one hit. /usr/local/man/man1/mysql.1.gz hmmm...dunno then. might be a bug? maybe you could check out this thread [1]. man, apropos, manpath and whatis will soon be replaced by a BSD variant. if you want to try it out be sure to get the latest release (the .shar file). if you still experience the same problem with it you might want to write gordon about it. cheers. alex [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org/msg124238.html -- System Name: laptop2.StevenFriedrich.org Hardware: 2.80GHz Intel Pentium 4 (HTT) with 2 GB memory OS version:FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE i386 (6.9 MB kernel) manager(s):kde4-4.5.1 X windows: xorg-7.5X.Org X Server 1.7.5 -- a13x ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask...
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 12:11:10 -0400 Jules Gilbert jules.sto...@gmail.com wrote: A typical FBSD user wants to be able to do a ports-based install, or perhaps a pkg_add and, presto, out of the box, have a browser. And, here it comes... Wait for it. Without too much trouble, have a running Java, connect to that browser and working. And it doesn't matter if some of us like or don't like Java. It's here and it's staying here. In ten years, and probably in twenty years, it will still be an important part of a typical OS environment. I understand that Sun declined to allow pre-built configurations to be shipped. Okay. Personally, I haven't used java for a long time (or even noticed its absence - unlike flash), so I 'm a bit behind the times. What's the is the problem? If they are stopping pre-built packages then that presumably just means the end of the diablo ports. Before those port existed I don't recall the plug-in situation as being any worse than slightly irritating. Is there more to it than that? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask...
Jules == Jules Gilbert jules.sto...@gmail.com writes: Jules Now, if Oracle won't adjust their thinking, I intend to look at Java Jules sub-systems that are supplied and built by other people than Oracle. Jules (It's called Open Source.) And that's what I tried to say in my last few posts. Given Oracle's apparent stance to own Java not by copyright but by patent, it doesn't *matter* that Java is open source. We'll have to wait until Oracle v. Google is decided, but unless Google can invalidate Oracle's *patents* on Java, Java is effectively dead, unless you want to sleep in Oracle's bed. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask...
Quoth Randal L. Schwartz on Tuesday, 14 September 2010: Jules == Jules Gilbert jules.sto...@gmail.com writes: Jules Now, if Oracle won't adjust their thinking, I intend to look at Java Jules sub-systems that are supplied and built by other people than Oracle. Jules (It's called Open Source.) And that's what I tried to say in my last few posts. Given Oracle's apparent stance to own Java not by copyright but by patent, it doesn't *matter* that Java is open source. We'll have to wait until Oracle v. Google is decided, but unless Google can invalidate Oracle's *patents* on Java, Java is effectively dead, unless you want to sleep in Oracle's bed. ... and Oracle makes for a large bedfellow, with a reputation for a painful embrace. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgp7BWh3Gq9yy.pgp Description: PGP signature
jumbo frame support in bge(4) for BCM5704
8.0-RELEASE amd64, Tyan S2882-D motherboard, Broadcom BCM5704C gigabit Ethernet transceivers Looking for clues on enabling jumbo support on BCM5704 chips. The bge(4) manpage claims this interface supports jumbo frames, as does Broadcom's data sheet. However, 'ifconfig bge0 mtu 9000' returns an error, as does 'ifconfig bge0 mtu 1500': ifconfig: ioctl (set mtu): Invalid argument Also, this thread claims the manpage anddata sheet are in error and that jumbos aren't supported: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2006-June/010866.html The Linux tg3 driver for this chip does support jumbos up to 9000 bytes but that doesn't necessarily answer whether the hardware can get there. Thanks in advance for any clues on enabling jumbos on this system. dn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: jumbo frame support in bge(4) for BCM5704
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:19 PM, David Newman dnew...@networktest.comwrote: 8.0-RELEASE amd64, Tyan S2882-D motherboard, Broadcom BCM5704C gigabit Ethernet transceivers Thanks in advance for any clues on enabling jumbos on this system. What happens if you boot from a linux live cd and try to enable frames there? -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org