Re: virtualbox
Quoth Chip Camden on Thursday, 05 August 2010: Quoth Brandon Gooch on Thursday, 05 August 2010: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:53 PM, kalin m ka...@el.net wrote: hi all.. just wondering how mature is virtualbox to be used with freebsd - either as host or as guest. is viable to be used in production environment? From my experience (running the latest 3.2.6 on 8.1-RELEASE, 8-STABLE, and 9-CURRENT) as both host and guest systems, YES. I'm also using 32- and 64-bit Windows and Linux guests; performance and stability are very, very good. Please try VirtualBox for yourself -- I think you will be pleased with the effort that's been put in to the port by the developers :) -Brandon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I'll second that. I haven't used FreeBSD as a guest yet, but as a host VirtualBox performs very nicely, and (touch wood) I haven't had any problems with using Windows 7 and Windows XP as guests. I'm on amd64 FreeBSD, and I've run both 64-bit and 32-bit Windows guests. Just to follow up, as part of my Bugathon participation I created a VM with 8.1-RELEASE as a guest for testing. The i386 version is running like a champ. I couldn't get the amd64 iso to boot under VirtualBox, though. It just appeared to hang after loading most of the system -- sorry, I don't have a log. When running Xorg under VirtualBox, I had to add the following to xorg.conf to get the keyboard and mouse to respond: Section ServerFlags Option AutoAddDevices off EndSection Everything else worked out of the box (so to speak). -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpWmqojjmRAe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: virtualbox
Quoth Adam Vande More on Thursday, 05 August 2010: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:17 PM, kalin m ka...@el.net wrote: awesome... i will. i'm basically intending to use it for production servers. i'll give it try... was reading something about not supporting usb... how about serial ports? i was reading the documentation. not much there... how about management, data backup and recovery? real time vm swaps? My fav VBox bookmark: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html, but there are other portions of that manual which should answer your questions as well. A CLI for Vbox? You just made my day. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgp0YdniwSljp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Good Terminal for X?
Quoth Roland Smith on Friday, 06 August 2010: On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 03:12:11AM -0500, Depo Catcher wrote: I use Icewm, so don't want to install all that kde/gnome libs/dependencies and such to get konsole or gnome-console (but both are nice) xterm does display some things correctly (like sysinstall type command line GUIs). Try x11/rxvt-unicode. It doesn't require Gnome nor KDE libraries, and it does handle unicode well. It's a lot lighter than xterm. And it has transparancy or backgrounds if you like that. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) On the subject of unicode, can anyone recommend a good terminal font that includes all (or most) unicode characters? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpYLkCgP4fns.pgp Description: PGP signature
mercurial port broken?
I just pulled mercurial, and the build nowfails:
for f in bash_completion convert-repo dumprevlog hg-ssh hgdiff hgk
logo-droplets.svg memory.py mercurial.el mergetools.hgrc mq.el
perf.py pylintrc python-hook-examples.py rewrite-log sample.hgrc
shrink-revlog.py simplemerge tcsh_completion tcsh_completion_build.sh
tmplrewrite.py undumprevlog zsh_completion git-viz/git-cat-file
git-viz/git-diff-tree git-viz/git-rev-list git-viz/git-rev-tree
git-viz/hg-viz hgsh/Makefile hgsh/hgsh.c vim/HGAnnotate.vim
vim/hg-menu.vim vim/hgcommand.vim vim/patchreview.txt
vim/patchreview.vim; do /bin/cp -p
/usr/ports/devel/mercurial/work/mercurial-1.6.2/contrib/${f}
/usr/local/share/mercurial/contrib/${f}; done
cp: /usr/ports/devel/mercurial/work/mercurial-1.6.2/contrib/hgdiff: No
such file or directory
*** Error code 1
Indeed there is no directory:
/usr/ports/devel/mercurial/work/mercurial-1.6.2/contrib/hgdiff
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Re: looking for a buildable version of OpenOffice.org
Quoth Scott Bennett on Thursday, 05 August 2010: On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 09:59:52 -0400 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 02:00:00AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: I have tried all of the versions of OpenOffice.org that are currently in the ports tree on a 7.3-STABLE system, and all of them fail to build to completion. Is there somewhere that I can find one that actually works? Or at least some alternative package that will build and work on a FreeBSD 7.3-STABLE system? No packages appear to be available for these ports. (Transcripts of the failed builds are available on request.) And what would be available if I were to upgrade my system to 8.1-STABLE? Thanks in advance for any help! You didn't give any information on what the failures were. True enough. That's because I wasn't really looking for help in fixing the broken ports, but rather for an OOo port that is *not* broken. However, here are some abbreviated descriptions of the build failures in case someone cares to pursue them or sees some obvious fix to apply. Blank lines have been deleted from the output excerpts below in order to shorten this message. snip editors/openoffice.org-3: Checking DLL ../unxfbsdi.pro/lib/check_slideshow.uno.so ...-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6559304 Jul 31 04:03 ../unxfbsdi.pro/lib/slideshow.uno.so - SHL2FILTERFILE not set! - dummy file to keep the dependencies for later use. -- Making: ../unxfbsdi.pro/lib/libslideshowtestfi.so [A line link-editing something called ../unxfbsdi.pro/lib/libslideshowtestfi.so was too long for vi here, so I've omitted it. SB] rm -f ../unxfbsdi.pro/lib/check_libslideshowtestfi.so mv ../unxfbsdi.pro/lib/libslideshowtestfi.so ../unxfbsdi.pro/lib/check_libslideshowtestfi.so /backups/w/misc/work/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/OOO320_m19/solenv/bin/checkdll.sh -L../unxfbsdi.pro/lib -L/backups/w/misc/work/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/OOO320_m19/solver/320/unxfbsdi.pro/lib ../unxfbsdi.pro/lib/check_libslideshowtestfi.so Checking DLL ../unxfbsdi.pro/lib/check_libslideshowtestfi.so ...-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6963499 Jul 31 04:03 ../unxfbsdi.pro/lib/libslideshowtestfi.so - Running processes: 0 Name main::name used only once: possible typo at /backups/w/misc/work/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/OOO320_m19/solenv/bin/deliver.pl line 1312. deliver -- version: - Module 'slideshow' delivered successfully. 2 files copied, 2 files unchanged 2 module(s): nss openssl need(s) to be rebuilt Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /backups/w/misc/work/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/OOO320_m19/nss/ ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /backups/w/misc/work/usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/OOO320_m19/openssl/ Attention: if you build and deliver the above module(s) you may prolongue your the build issuing command build --from nss openssl rmdir /tmp/NnlQ9YQZ77 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3. === make failed for editors/openoffice.org-3 === Aborting update /snip Looks like you just need to upgrade some dependent ports (nss and openssl). portupgrade -R nss portupgrade -R openssl ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpKeFY6fV2KM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: copyright for man pages
Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 05 August 2010: On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 07:16:20AM -0400, r...@mlg3.com wrote: Hello, Sorry of this is the wrong list but what is the copyright situation for things like man pages? If I want to host a copy of one on the web or something, is there some additional disclaimer I need to add? As I understand it, most man pages and other FreeBSD documentation is distributed under the terms of the FreeBSD Documentation License: http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/freebsd-doc-license.html Anything that says GNU in it (because it's related to GNU software) is likely to be distributed under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html Some man pages are likely to be distributed under the standard BSD License. There may or may not be some stuff distributed under the terms of the BSD Documentation License, which is actually a derivative of the FreeBSD Documentation License. There may be a couple here and there distributed under other licenses as well. I'm not anyone officially associated with the documentation project, though, so don't just take my word for it if you have reason to question what I've said. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Man pages for ports might have their own licensing -- perhaps (though not necessarily) under the same license as their corresponding ports. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpFwBZpy4ZsJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: virtualbox
Quoth Brandon Gooch on Thursday, 05 August 2010: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:53 PM, kalin m ka...@el.net wrote: hi all.. just wondering how mature is virtualbox to be used with freebsd - either as host or as guest. is viable to be used in production environment? From my experience (running the latest 3.2.6 on 8.1-RELEASE, 8-STABLE, and 9-CURRENT) as both host and guest systems, YES. I'm also using 32- and 64-bit Windows and Linux guests; performance and stability are very, very good. Please try VirtualBox for yourself -- I think you will be pleased with the effort that's been put in to the port by the developers :) -Brandon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I'll second that. I haven't used FreeBSD as a guest yet, but as a host VirtualBox performs very nicely, and (touch wood) I haven't had any problems with using Windows 7 and Windows XP as guests. I'm on amd64 FreeBSD, and I've run both 64-bit and 32-bit Windows guests. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpXN2KxKZSfY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to parse output of application?
Can you help me with this task I have? I have a lot of files in a
subdirectory containing the following text:
Correctly Classified Instances 3018117 56.6808 %
Incorrectly Classified Instances 2306643 43.3192 %
Kappa statistic 0.2443
Mean absolute error 0.4304
Root mean squared
error 0.4586
Relative absolute error 124.1251 %
Root relative squared error 110.1308 %
Total Number of Instances 5324760
=== Detailed Accuracy By Class ===
TP Rate FP Rate Precision Recall F-Measure ROC Area Class
0.618 0.343 0.681 0.618 0.648 0.697 1
0.519 0.244 0.617
0.519 0.564 0.693 2
0.296 0.141 0.056 0.296 0.094 0.66 3
=== Confusion Matrix ===
a b c -- classified as
1784321 684983 416649 | a = 1
787342 1190428 314537 | b = 2
49255 53877 43368 | c = 3
I need to parse this file to get in a csv file the following information:
Correctly Classified Instances, Kappa statistic, Total Number of Instances,
Precision {1}, Recall {1}, F-Measure
{1},Precision {2}, Recall {2}, F-Measure {2},Precision {3}, Recall {3},
F-Measure {3},a,b,c,a,b,c,a,b,c
56.6808,
0.2443, 5324760, 0.681,0.618,0.648,0.617,0.519,0.564,
0.056,0.296,0.094,1784321,684983,416649,787342,1190428,314537,49255,53877,43368
Does anyone have an idea how this could be accomplished?
I not that great in programming so writing a ruby or shell script do do this
would take me weeks:-(
Thanks
Dino
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Well, I'd use Ruby. Read the whole file into a string and find the
relevant bits with Regexp.
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[sterl...@camdensoftware.com: Re: Firefox printing]
Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 02 August 2010: Firefox 3.6.8,1 coredumps on print preview or print. Can anyone else=20 confirm this? (8.1-stable using lpd.) Works fine here, but I'm using cups (8.1-stable, firefox 3.6.8,1, amd64) FreeBSD libertas.local.camdensoftware.com 8.1-STABLE FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE #23: Sun Aug 1 10:41:36 PDT 2010 sterl...@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LIBERTAS amd64 firefox-3.6.8,1 =3D up-to-date with port=20 -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgp5otb0hwdVI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ok, i give up...
Quoth Gary Kline on Saturday, 31 July 2010: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 03:40:00PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:08:20PM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 07:04:51PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS ago. cannot find. it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like QUOTE # Bill's birthday: 08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card. # watch one-time broadcast!! 08 09 2010 echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours /QUOTE ... deskutils/ical ? Good program, but probably not what the OP had in mind. ical's .calendar file, while ascii, is in a structured format which would be a bit of a pain to edit by hand; and I don't recall its being set up to send email. No, it's not able to send email AFAIK. If Gary just wants reminders of when to take pills, then I would recommend him to use at(1) and get it to call a file which calls xmessage at the correct times of day. E.g. that file contains: export DISPLAY=:0.0 xmessage -geom 100x100+100+100 Take pills! or if you want to use email use mail(1) and at(1) I don't think anybodys mentioned at(1). It's in base and not a port, xmessage is a port. This might work for ssomething like a reminder to down my pills. I completely forgot about 'at'. :- ) gary Using the 'when' scripts I developed, you can generate reminders that will pipe to anything, including mail or xmessage (http://chipstips.com/?tag=rbremindwhen) I send mine to my xmobar in bright yellow, so it gets my attention but doesn't require me to close a dialog or anything. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgp3dGqxSWTTA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo
Quoth Chad Perrin on Thursday, 29 July 2010: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:30:02PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:05:03 +0200, Antonio Vieiro anto...@antonioshome.net wrote: The logo means that all the people not trying out FreeBSD are going to go directly to hell after death. No need to wait such a long time... :-) No . . . before death, they're in Pergatory, being (hopefully) cleansed of their sins. If they never repent of those other OSes, though, *then* they go to Hell. . . . or something. Thank Beastie and Chad (who was instrumental in my conversion) that I saw the light, after 20 years of serving the *real* devil: http://egomania.nu/gates.html -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpC4tyF9nabm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo (a moderate opinion)
Quoth Mario Lobo on Thursday, 29 July 2010: On Thursday 29 July 2010 19:45:02 Antonio Olivares wrote: I am sorry but I am now confused, the BSD Logo : http://www.freebsd.org/layout/images/logo-red.png is the sex toy right? Because Beastie just has his pitchfork Well, don't forget that sado-masochists would find tons of usages for the pitchfork, maybe even beastie's horns along with it :) ... and what about that long tail with the potentially useful tip? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpEtonJE88vK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo
Quoth David Brodbeck on Wednesday, 28 July 2010: On Tue, July 27, 2010 3:09 pm, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Paul Schmehl on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: --On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:49:47 -0500 Reid Linnemann lr...@cs.okstate.edu wrote: On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ Sheesh. Now I really have seen everything. Not quite. Someone needs to come out with an OS named Atheix, and another called Agnostix. Then we'll be complete. I tried Agnostix, but it's impossible to get support; every bug report gets closed with a status of not enough information. With Atheix, they're all closed with Not a problem. With Jesux, it's always, Will be fixed in Coming 2.0 (to be released soon, we promise). Workaround: apply more faith. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgptdkt7Q19od.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ok, i give up...
Quoth Gary Kline on Wednesday, 28 July 2010: guys, i've been searching for a calender/reminder prog than i had YEARS ago. cannot find. it had a ~/.datafile that was ascii. things like QUOTE # Bill's birthday: 08 08 echo Send Bill a birthday card. # watch one-time broadcast!! 08 09 2010 echo: Watch PBS show at 20:00 hours /QUOTE i have forgotten the exact name of the ascii datafile and the calander program. can't find it in ports despite around 2.75 hours of make search key=calender |grep -1 Info | more I'm pretty sure i wasn't//am NOT hallucinating. --there was an X popuo when the date time was hit. i had to click on the Popup/dialog? to get rid of it. anybody know what this was? it goes back at least to the late 1990's. tia, y'all, gary PS: and now, time for a brew or maybe a =NAP= [] /usr/ports/deskutils/when my favorite. I've written a lot of scripts to supplement it, too: http://chipstips.com/?tag=rbremindwhen -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpLDUmG473De.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apps update from ports
Quoth Polytropon on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:16:15 +0200, claudiu vasadi claudiu.vas...@gmail.com wrote: Finally, when I want to test out new features, both in OS and applications, I usually go with bleeding edge. I'm often surprised to see how well things do work. That's my experience, too. When I was told that in order to get my wireless device working I would need to upgrade to STABLE, I shuddered with the fearful anticipation of using a development version of the O/S. But it has lived up to the name STABLE. Likewise with recently released ports. Occasionally there's a breakage, but I've always (touch wood) been pleasantly surprised by how easy it is to set things right. Not like the can't get there from here without a wipe and load situations in which I often found myself during the 20 years in which my main system ran Windows (oh, the waste!) -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpV0Sw5iSXlZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo
Quoth Paul Schmehl on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: --On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:49:47 -0500 Reid Linnemann lr...@cs.okstate.edu wrote: On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ Sheesh. Now I really have seen everything. Not quite. Someone needs to come out with an OS named Atheix, and another called Agnostix. Then we'll be complete. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpGPGBXG6m9V.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo
Quoth Terrence Koeman on Wednesday, 28 July 2010: -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chip Camden Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:10 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD logo Quoth Paul Schmehl on Tuesday, 27 July 2010: --On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 15:49:47 -0500 Reid Linnemann lr...@cs.okstate.edu wrote: On final analysis, I think the OP should abandon any desire for FreeBSD in favor of this: http://pudge.net/jesux/ Sheesh. Now I really have seen everything. Not quite. Someone needs to come out with an OS named Atheix, and another called Agnostix. Then we'll be complete. I'm imagining Agnostix would need uncertain values for true and false, and Atheix wouldn't believe in the PATH and therefore won't look for it. Well, Agnostix allow that there might be a kernel of truth. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpGuFMseMpvH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1
Quoth Antonio Vieiro on Monday, 26 July 2010: Hi all, For those trying to test OpenOffice 3.2.1 in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE (no official package yet): This: ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/OOo_3.2.1_FreeBSD81Intel_install_es.tbz From ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/FreeBSD/3.2.1/i386/ is working for me. (I now most of you already knew this, but I didn't!, I'm a FreeBSD newbie!) Cheers, Antonio Umm... what's wrong with the port? Works okay here (well, as OK as OpenOffice.org ever is). -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpEKX3ni2A4t.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo
Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 25 July 2010: On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:54:37AM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: snip I'd think a devout Christian would have much more reason to complain about a Flying Spaghetti Monster (whose only purpose is to mock mystical belief systems) than a Daemon, ... /snip On the contrary, they fear competition much more than direct opposition. That's why the bloodiest religious wars are usually between similar systems. Thus, an opposing mythical symbol is more threatening, provided it's taken seriously -- the attempt to cast it seriously is an attempt to frame an enemy. Actually, the deeper, unspoken threat is that it won't be taken seriously -- providing a precedent for the demotion of all mythical symbols. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgp6T8tXhUZuC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo
Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 25 July 2010: On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:57:14AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Personally, I like the devilish association, however indirect it may be. FreeBSD is somewhat counter-cultural and anti- authoritarian, after all. This discussion has drifted badly OT, but I feel compelled to point out that Christ Himself was very counter-cultural and anti- authoritarian for His time. That's what got Him crucified, no? Too bad his legacy is, in effect, authoritarianism and mainstream cultural reinforcement -- including people bleating about some symbol they misunderstand, and how it offends their willfully ignorant, idolatrist sensitibilities. Preach it, brother! Though I generally refrain from speculating on WWJD, I think if asked about this symbol he might reply something like, It doesn't matter what picture the web page bears-- look at what is inscribed on the heart. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgp1Eoz8lRLCh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo
] abrasive -- maybe. But this was a most enjoyable read. I don't suppose our Christian friend opposes hot cross buns or Christmas trees. Then again, some Christians do. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpm1PvYsp0Pn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo
Quoth David Brodbeck on Saturday, 24 July 2010: On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: It's a cartoon character. It's not an attempt to lure your children to join Satan's armies. There's no reason to be deterred from giving FreeBSD a try just because of a friendly cartoon character. I'm reminded of when some Christian groups called for a boycott of Apple because they had an OS project code-named Darwin. Some people will just go out of their way to look for reasons to take offense. I'm reminded that the SATAN network scanner project used to ship a utility with the source code that would patch it to rename it SANTA. I suppose someone could fork a new BSD distribution with an angel for a logo, to mollify these sorts of people. Call it BlessedBSD (BleSseD?) or something. ;) That would probably make a lot of Christian BSD users happy. Personally, I like the devilish association, however indirect it may be. FreeBSD is somewhat counter-cultural and anti-authoritarian, after all. The whole notion of the Christian heaven seems remarkably close to Microsoft's vision of software: everyone will exist together in this eternal utopian sameness, and they'll like it. Give me my daemons, my lake of fire, and some people who aren't too good to know what they want and don't want-- we'll have a party. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpcGxAcud6gG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSD logo
Quoth Frank Shute on Saturday, 24 July 2010: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 09:21:48AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 24/07/2010 08:38:24, Bernt Hansson wrote: Victor Skovorodnikov said the following on 2010-07-24 04:01: Hi! This may sound strange but I have a question about logo. Why such a logo for BSD? What is the meaning of that logo? I have always been thinking of trying FreeBSD but as a Christian I get deterred by its un-Christian logo. Grow up your silly sod! No, no. I'm afraid the game is up, chaps. Such perspicacious observation! Such penetrating insight! How could we have dreamed that anyone would uncover our daemonic plot to make the world a better place through superior software by simply examining our logo? My friends, I fear that there is going to be a lot of holy water sprinkled in data centres over the coming months. There will be much weeping and wailing and a darkness shall spread over the face of the net; lightnings and thunders and unwholesome smokes shall assault those holy warriors attempting to drive out the daemonically possessed (Hint: turn off the power *before* applying the Holy Water.) You stick to your holy water, I'll stick to defenestrating virgins, sacrificing goats and chanting the Lord's prayer backwards whilst dancing naked in a pentagram. s/enestrat/lower/ -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpIigHixIa9d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: rmconfig from all ports tree
Quoth claudiu vasadi on Thursday, 22 July 2010: in the meantime I wrote the following quick script: #!/bin/sh # Create a list of all dir's find /usr/ports/ -depth 2 -type directory -print ports_structure # for each discovered dir, cd into it and do rmconfig file=ports_structure while read dr1 do cd $dr1;make rmconfig done$file very simple script if you ask me. tested and working. Any suggestions/ideas/opinions are welcomed. ___ Since you asked, you don't really need to go to a file: find /usr/ports/ -depth 2 -type directory -print | while read dr1 do cd $dr1;make rmconfig done -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpRU5W8vo11k.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Wacom tablet driver port doesn't seem to work
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 13 July 2010: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 09:04:10AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Looks like this may be it: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/wacom_drv.so Alas, I do not have that file either. There are, in fact, no files with wacom anywhere in the path on this system other than the files in the input-wacom port. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Interesting. After I built the port here, that file was new. I'm afraid I don't know anything more to be able to help. You did try make clean deinstall reinstall, right? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpBaaNUqqLnX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: .sh check for sufix g or m on size field
Quoth Aiza on Monday, 12 July 2010:
Sorry miss send, was not done yet.
Have a .sh script that accepts an -s sparse file size.
Only 2 suffix's are valid m and g.
Been trying to get this line of code to strip out just the single
letter. But it strips the letter and every thing to the right of it.
Timagesize=`echo-n ${imagesize} | sed 's/g.*$//'`
I plan to strip just the m or g if its there and the result should be
numeric. If not numeric know invalid suffix.
Need help with the sed syntax. Or if there is better way I want to learn
it.
Thanks
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It sounds like what you want is simply:
sed 's/[gm]//'
Or am I missing something?
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Re: Wacom tablet driver port doesn't seem to work
Quoth Chad Perrin on Sunday, 11 July 2010: I started working on getting FreeBSD running on a ThinkPad X60 this weekend. My goal was to get everything up to the standards of my T60, plus touchscreen and pen support for the Wacom display. The only problem I've encountered so far is the fact that when I tried installing the Wacom driver from ports, it did not seem to work as advertised. port: /usr/ports/x11-drivers/input-wacom result: The driver file will not load and, indeed, does not appear to exist anywhere on the system. There are no files with wacom in the name and a .ko filename extension on the system, anywhere, after installing the input-wacom port. Is there some other step I'm meant to take? I've searched all over the Web for something relevant, and have found nothing to shed light on the situation. Is the driver file named something more cryptic than what I'm trying to find (maybe a driver file that doesn't contain the string wacom in the name)? Any guidance would be appreciated. The FreeBSD version on the X60 is 8.0-RELEASE. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Looks like this may be it: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/wacom_drv.so -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgp4euqj6eHQH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Get server's internal temperature from ACPI ?
Quoth Frank Bonnet on Wednesday, 07 July 2010: Hello Is there an utility to get the internal temperature from a HP Proliant server with ACPI ??? Thank you ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org sysctl -n hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature I'm not sure if the Proliant has an Intel Core, but if it does then you can get per-cpu temperature info: kld coretemp for i in 0 1 2 3; sysctl -n dev.cpu.$i.temperature -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpsIIJEqpJbw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bourne .sh ?
On Jul 02 11:39, Aiza wrote: Chip Camden wrote: On Jul 02 07:43, Aiza wrote: I have a file containing this drwxrwxr-x 14 89987 546 512 Jun 6 2009 7.2-RELEASE drwxrwxr-x 14 89987 546 512 Mar 23 04:59 7.3-RELEASE drwxrwxr-x 13 89987 546 512 Nov 23 2009 8.0-RELEASE drwxrwxr-x 13 89987 546 512 Jul 1 04:56 8.1-RC2 I want to strip off everything to the left of the release version so I end up with this. 7.2-RELEASE 7.3-RELEASE 8.0-RELEASE 8.1-RC2 How would I code to do this? sed -e 's/.* //' file assuming there are no trailing spaces on each line. Another alternative would be to create the list without all that detail: ls -1 Wow do I feel stupid. You saw through my question to the underlying problem causing the need to strip off that stuff. I just changed the command from ls -l to ls -1 and got what I wanted in the first place. Thanks You're welcome. We're all learners here, but the man pages are an excellent resource. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com pgpcdn7z4uN4s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
On Jul 01 11:24, Ed Flecko wrote: Hi folks, I'm running FreeBSD 8.0, and I'm trying to simple stay current with all security patches. It's a clean install of FreeBSD 8.0 on a 50G drive, and I let sysinstall select the default partition configuration when I did the install. I've taken the following steps: # csup -4 /etc/stable-supfile # cd /usr/src # make buildworld # make buildkernel # make installkernel After the make installkernel command, the / partition shows 106% capacity (and it started as 500M). Here's my before and after running make installkernel Before: Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a496M253M203M55%/ devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/da0s1e496M 12K456M 0%/tmp /dev/da0s1f 44G3.0G 37G 8%/usr /dev/da0s1d1.9G 10M1.8G 1%/var After: Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a496M485M-29M 106%/ devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/da0s1e496M 12K456M 0%/tmp /dev/da0s1f 44G3.0G 37G 8%/usr /dev/da0s1d1.9G 10M1.8G 1%/var # cd / # du -h -d2 | grep M 2.0K ./tmp/.XIM-unix 33M ./usr/bin 18M ./usr/include 37M ./usr/lib 20M ./usr/libexec 267M ./usr/local 20M ./usr/sbin 37M ./usr/share 511M ./usr/src 450M ./usr/ports 10M ./var/db 10M ./var 1.7M ./etc 1.1M ./bin 233M ./boot/kernel 233M ./boot/kernel.old 466M ./boot 7.4M ./lib 4.3M ./rescue 4.4M ./sbin It looks like the both kernels are eating up the entire / Right? What am I doing wrong? The isn't normal, is it? Thank you, Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I've experienced the same thing on amd64 -- the default partition size for root is too small. Rather than going to the trouble of correcting it, I just 'rm -r /boot/kernel.old' when it fails and then redo 'make installkernel', and all seems OK. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com pgpj8YPHIDDdA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
On Jul 01 15:10, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com writes: I've experienced the same thing on amd64 -- the default partition size for root is too small. Rather than going to the trouble of correcting it, I just 'rm -r /boot/kernel.old' when it fails and then redo 'make installkernel', and all seems OK. That's a little dangerous, because you're deleting your last known-good kernel. I'd feel better about recommending just removing the unnecessary kernel modules (which for a lot of people, is all of them). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Could you expand on that? I'd prefer a less risky option, especially because I always get this paralyzing fear that I'll accidentally hit Enter after I've typed 'rm -r /' -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com pgpsdgVN3XSlj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
On Jul 01 12:07, Ed Flecko wrote: Thanks guys. :-) Doesn't that seem odd that the default partition size for root (512M) isn't quite big enough? Should I make the partition size slightly larger (on future installs) to eliminate this problem? Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I know *I* will. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com pgpg29YkGipfM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: /boot is full after running make installkernel on FreeBSD 8.0
On Jul 01 12:29, Chip Camden wrote: On Jul 01 12:07, Ed Flecko wrote: Thanks guys. :-) Doesn't that seem odd that the default partition size for root (512M) isn't quite big enough? Should I make the partition size slightly larger (on future installs) to eliminate this problem? Ed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I know *I* will. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com I've found that if you just rm /boot/kernel.old/*.symbols, you'll have more than enough space. Is that safe enough? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com pgp8OM1K20onO.pgp Description: PGP signature
ports issue with gegl
Greetings. uname -a: FreeBSD libertas.local.camdensoftware.com 8.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE #1: Thu Jun 24 13:38:09 PDT 2010 sterl...@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 As of a portsnap fetch update this morning, the gegl port will not build === gegl-0.1.2_1 is marked as broken: ffmpeg support is currently broken. gimp depends on gegl, so the latest update to gimp will not build. Known problem? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ports issue with gegl
On Jun 25 20:21, Ivan Klymenko wrote: ?? Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:06:21 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com ??: Greetings. uname -a: FreeBSD libertas.local.camdensoftware.com 8.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE #1: Thu Jun 24 13:38:09 PDT 2010 sterl...@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 As of a portsnap fetch update this morning, the gegl port will not build === gegl-0.1.2_1 is marked as broken: ffmpeg support is currently broken. gimp depends on gegl, so the latest update to gimp will not build. Known problem? reconfigure graphics/gegl whit out ffmpeg support cd /user/ports/graphics/gegl make WITHOUT_FFMPEG=yes config ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Cheers! I should have figured that was an option, so sorry about the noise. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Virtualization with USB on Freebsd 8
On Jun 24 18:58, step...@theched.org wrote: Good morning/afternoon/evening, Do you know of any virtualisation solution that would allow USB devices when using Freebsd-8 as host ? We do indeed have virtualbox-OSE, but without USB support Basically I would use that to fire-up a WinXP session allowing my to sync various USB devices that I cannot sync using my Freebsd box (iPod, GPS etc.) Thanks in advance, -Steven Not sure about other USB devices, but I use virtualbox-ose on FreeBSD host, and Windows 7 sees the USB wireless keyboard and mouse without any fiddling. But perhaps that's because FreeBSD also sees them and virtualizes them. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: .sh check for numeric content
On Jun 24 05:08, Jerry wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:32:57 -0400 (EDT)
Karl Vogel vogelke+u...@pobox.com articulated:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:24:39 +0800,
Aiza aiz...@comclark.com said:
A Receiving a variable from the command line that is suppose to
A contain numeric values. How do I code a test to verify the
A content is numeric?
The script below will work with the Bourne or Korn shell.
Results for 0 1 12 1234 .12 1.234 12.3 1a a1:
0 is numeric
1 is numeric
12 is numeric
1234 is numeric
.12 is numeric
1.234 is numeric
12.3 is numeric
1a is NOT numeric
a1 is NOT numeric
I had used this snippet in a script to test for numeric input. It was
part of a function in a Bash script.
case ${1} in
[[:digit:]] )
IS_DIGIT=1
;;
* )
IS_DIGIT=0
printf \n\a\t *WARNING*
\tYou must enter a digit\n\n
;;
esac
That [[:digit:]] pattern only works if your shell supports POSIX
character classes in the case statement.
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Re: check for numeric content in a shell script (FreeBSD sh)
On Jun 24 08:39, Parv wrote: in message 20100624183407.ga49...@holstein.holy.cow, wrote p...@pair.com thusly... # Matches a number, either positive (without '+' sign) or # negative, which is either a whole number; or a real number # ending with decimal point, or a real number with or without # leading digits before the decimal point. . ^ . ^ plural ^ -? ( [0-9] [.]? [0-9]* | [0-9]? [.] [0-9]+ .^ .^ oops Please change the immediately above regex portion to ... [0-9]* [.] [0-9]+ - parv We still need to be able to handle numbers without a decimal. Try this: [0-9]*\.?[0-9]+ The question mark says 0 or 1 ) $ -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: since when did alt-shift-tab quit working?
On Jun 24 14:17, Steve Franks wrote: I thought it was the kludged state of my desktop, but the 8-release server I just brought up fresh yesterday is doing it too: alt-tab works, alt-shift-tab does not. For those of us who are not into gnome/kde/cutesy menus panels, this is a major PITA. No doubt it came in from linux-land with the latest xorg revision, and I'm going to have to add another esoteric knob to my xorg.conf... Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org What window manager are you using? With xmonad, you have complete control over those keystrokes. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: thunderbird replacement
On Jun 20 2010 08:28, Aryeh Friedman wrote: I currently am using mail/thunderbird as my mail reader and it is just doing the job very well (even with heavy use of filters) I use xfce4 on 8.1-PRERELEASE (updated and portmaster -Rafd'ed about 3 weeks ago) I am looking for a good replacement suggestions here are the minimal features I need: * Gmail support * Filtering (either internal or via external tool) * Multiple accounts (2) * Ability to send via local sendmail (my ISP blocks incoming port 25 thats why I am using gmail) * Handle over 1000 messages a day * (optional) Plain text archives (unlike how Thunderbird does it) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org You can do all of the above with mutt. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: terrible mplayer performance
On Jun 14 2010 21:06, Neil Short wrote: --- On Mon, 6/14/10, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: Check the output of pciconf -lv to see what identification of your graphics hardware is output. result: ... vgap...@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x03 card=0x140a103c chip=0x00468086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = display subclass = VGA ... You have exactly the same chipset I do. I have not seen any mention of work being done on the intel driver for this chipset, but I would be glad to lend a hand if someone could direct me on how to begin. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: * wildcard in.sh script
On Jun 15 2010 17:06, Aiza wrote:
Aiza wrote:
I have a directory with files in it. The first 3 letters of the file
names is the group prefix. I'm trying to write a script to accept the 3
letter of the group followed by a * to mean its a prefix lookup. But
when I run it I get a message NO match that is not issued by the
script. Its like * is not allowed as input.
Looking for sample .sh code for handling this standard type of lookup or
some online tutorial that has sample code for bourne shell programming.
Here is the code
prefix_name1=$1
prefix_name2=`echo -n ${prefix_name1} | sed 's/*.*$//'`
echo prefix_name1 = ${prefix_name1}
echo prefix_name2 = ${prefix_name2}
if [ ${prefix_name1} -nq ${prefix_name2} ]; then
echo prefix_name2 = ${prefix_name2}
fi
exerr hard stop
Here is the test and out put
# admin cell*
admin: No match.
As others have mentioned, you need to quote or escape the * in the
command line:
admin cell*
You've also botched your regex (/*.*$/) -- it can't begin with a *. What
exactly
are you trying to match?
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Re: concerning flash under freebsd
On Jun 15 2010 22:55, Alexander Best wrote: hi there, why is flash still causing such problems under freebsd? i've been having the same issues for years nows: - browser tabs freeze completely - `ps` reports a lot of nspluginwrapper/npviewer.bin processes - nspluginwrapper/npviewer.bin coredumps i read that the cause for this is a buggy implementation of the linux futex emulation. when will this get fixed? almost everyone who uses flash under freebsd has something like this in his ~/.profile: alias killflash='pkill -9 npviewer.bin ; rm -f ~/npviewer.bin.core'; cheers. alex My alias for killflash is Don't install it. Flash is buggy software on any platform. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: terrible mplayer performance
On Jun 14 2010 15:13, Neil Short wrote: Ok. I'm stuck. Mplayer's performance is worse on this laptop than it is on my Toshiba running with a half-speed processor. I have attempted all the suggestions I can find re: getting the performance. The video is slow - so it lags the audio by quite a bit. I keep getting Your processor is too slow... stuff. What to do? I built mplayer from ports (not package). mplayer-1.0.r20100117_1 My computer is an HP Pavilion dv4 xorg.conf is set up to run the vesa driver. That's how X -configure set it up. I have no idea what graphics device is actually on this machine. dmesg shows: Copyright (c) 1992-2010 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 8.1-PRERELEASE #1: Mon Jun 7 10:53:01 MST 2010 nesh...@carmen:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CARMEN amd64 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz (2127.92-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x20652 Family = 6 Model = 25 Stepping = 2 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM ,PBE Features2=0x98e3bdSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT AMD Features=0x28000800SYSCALL,RDTSCP,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 4294967296 (4096 MB) avail memory = 3892748288 (3712 MB) ACPI APIC Table: HPQOEM SLIC-MPC FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) x 2 SMT threads cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 4 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 5 ... vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0x6050-0x6057 mem 0xd000-0xd03f,0xc000-0xcfff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: Intel Ironlake (M) SVGA controller on vgapci0 agp0: detected 32764k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 256M ... == What did you do? the man holding the flashlight asked. I put down a spider, he said, wondering why the man didn't see; in the beam of yellow light the spider bloated up larger than life. So it could get away. I have an i3 M 350 -- the intel drivers do not yet work for this chipset. It's the Intel HM55, probably. To verify, give us the output of pciconf -vl | grep vgapci0 The chip= portion of that has the PCI ID. Mine's 00468086. For now at least, I'm stuck on vesa. But mplayer seems to run fine for me. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd - for the win
On Jun 13 2010 09:24, Matthew Seaman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/06/2010 01:49:39, Chad Perrin wrote: What I *do* find to be of value, however, is improving the installation process so that it is clearer what is going on at each step and improving the efficiency of it without damaging its flexibility. I don't have any problem with making it easier for a new user to understand and use, as long as it doesn't interfere with the suitability for experts who don't care about whooshing noises, 3D animations, helpful cartoon characters, and the ability to use a mouse where it's not really needed. In fact, I think the world would be a better place if more people used FreeBSD, almost regardless of their levels of technical expertise -- as long as the OS doesn't start catering to their demands for Clippy and spinning logos that take three minutes to load. Exactly my thinking. Style vs substance -- all the style in the world won't help you one bit unless it's backed by real substance. Unfortunately far too few people are capable of seeing through the surface gloss of style to understand the substance beneath. Style also tends to be rather in the eye of the beholder -- one persons' exciting and trendy is another's annoying and garish; whereas substance is universal. While most FreeBSD types may not have much use for glitz and glitter, still, FreeBSD does have it's own aesthetic. It's minimal, and spare and it says We're not going to pretend that this isn't complicated or difficult. Effort brings reward. This is something I find incredibly attractive; even after more than 10 years it is still refreshing. Cheers, Matthew The beauty of FreeBSD (and the Unix philosophy in general) is that simplicity is systemic. Things work together because they're aligned consistently and without fluff. I'm certainly in favor of anything that helps the newbie (I'm still a newbie on a lot of fronts myself) without damaging that simple consistency. The trap into which so-called user-friendly systems often fall is the idea that we can help make things simpler for the user by just tacking on some wizard or UI that will lead them through the process without making them think about what they're doing. Those specialized, tacked on helpers end up creating a nightmare of inconsistent time-wasters that don't provide access to all available options and in the end just obscure the problem rather than simplifying it. A true help for the newbie is something that helps move them out of that status -- something that provides the necessary steps, but also educates the user on what exactly is being done and why. That opens a larger world for future exploration. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[sterl...@camdensoftware.com: Re: freebsd - for the win]
- Forwarded message from Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com - On Jun 12 2010 18:39, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 01:12:55PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Call me fatalistic, but I think there is a direct relationship between FreeBSD's high quality and it's lack of popularity. If it catered to the common herd, its compromises would be many. I believe there is such a relationship, too. I think the obvious way to interpret this recognition of the relationship is as a causal relationship where lack of popularity is what (helps/makes) FreeBSD maintain higher quality, but I think that's mostly the wrong way around. Rather, it is the focus on quality over quantity that keeps it unpopular (relative to other OSes, anyway). I also believe that is the correct decision, without reservation. There are things that could be done to improve FreeBSD's suitability and attractiveness to a wider audience without sacrificing that focus on quality at all -- that could, in fact, improve that attractiveness while serving the focus in quality. Such things tend to get neglected, though, and I think it is in part because of a negative reaction to the idea that populism involves sacrifices of quality. Popularity, per se, does not result in poorer quality. Populism, however, does -- and both greater popularity *and* a desire for greater popularity can create populism. Note that I'm using the term populism in a pejorative, apolitical sense, and not in the sense of advocacy for the rights of the people, et cetera. Anyway . . . for my OS of choice (FreeBSD at the moment), I'd much rather err on the side of elitism and quality than on that of egalitarianism and quantity. I just find the occasional statement (which I do *not* think is what you were saying) that we should actively *avoid* popularity for the sake of quality quite annoying. I just find the occasional statement (which I do *not* think is what you were saying) that we should actively *avoid* popularity for the sake of quality . . . well, I find it quite annoying. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] I've become an advocate for FreeBSD -- I'd like to see many more people using it. But I have no illusions that it will ever reach the vast majority of computer users without being wrapped in a candy coating like OS/X. The real audience, I think, are the thousands of developers who could appreciate a system like FreeBSD but who have never been introduced to it. Sorry, meant to reply to the list. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com - End forwarded message - -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd - for the win
On Jun 12 2010 13:53, Tim Judd wrote: These market statistics are pointless. The numbers are based on people reporting their OS and usage. A system like Microsoft or Apple can use a unique host id when checking for system updates which can tabulate this data. Linux is possible to do same, I don't voluntarily run linux so I don't know it as much as I do BSD. However, on BSD, we have to purposely select, download, configure and use a product to track, I know there are large corporations that use BSD (in one shape or form) for their OS, it's just not reported. I check the market share/statistics every now and then to see what the trend is, but I consider them very one-sided and personally very useless to show the actual usage. My 2 cents. Call me fatalistic, but I think there is a direct relationship between FreeBSD's high quality and it's lack of popularity. If it catered to the common herd, its compromises would be many. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fixing the spam from MPCUSTOMER.com
On Jun 10 2010 11:36, Robert Bonomi wrote: I have an approach that will get MidPhase's attention, but I need the help of as many of the other victims of their borked support system as I can round up. Anybody who gets one of their misbeggotten trouble-ticket acks, please forward (or copy, or whatever) the message, with *COMPLETE* headers, to 'mp-s...@r-bonomi.com'. Feel free to forward _every_ such ack you get, If you have saved copies of their prior crimes, feel free to send them to the above address, as well. Please send each such as a separate email, however; I'm tabulating on the basis of each message received -here-. If you have/use procmail for handling incoming mail,, a recipie of: 0: H: * ^From: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org * ^Reply.*mpcustomer ! mp-s...@r-bonomi.com will do it automatically, _and_ eliminate it from your inbox. However you do it, I'll bit-bucket anything not matching those two REs in an _unanchored_ form, so a 'false-positive' in a forwarded message is no problem. The larger the number of 'victims' I can show _actual_proof_ of, the more of a reaction I'll be able to stir up. The 'fun-and-games' -- They are in out-and-out violation of that mostly *useless* piece of legislation known as CAN-SPAM. Their *forgery* of the From: line to show the address of the mailing-list is a clear violation of 15 USC 7704 (a) (1). What's even -more- fun, is that they are going to shoot themselves in the foot -- they will auto-ack *this* message, thereby establishing that they have actual notice of the violation, and thus, that *EVERY* subsequent violation is 'knowing and wilful'. Enough of the people on this list (a) run their own servers, and (b) provide email handling for at least _one_ other person, such that they qualify, UNDER CAN-SPAM, as an ISP, and thus _have_ standing to initate a private lawsuit under said law (=individuals= do _not_ have that right, *only* ISPs, the way the law is written). Now, with a whole _bunch_ of *ISPs* being victims, there is the possibility of a _CLASS_ACTION_ civil suit. One can imagine what kind of _news_ coverage that even the contemplation of such an action would carry. When I have a reasonable amount of 'ammunition' in hand, I look forward to a _very_ interesting discussion with their legal counsel. *BIG* grin Excellent. For those who use getlessmail, I've just committed a change (http://bitbucket.org/apotheon/getlessmail/) to allow piping the message to another command -- in this case, mail. The relevant rule to add to a .getlessmail profile would be something like: ((pipe '/usr/bin/mail -s mpcustomer mp-s...@r-bonomi.com') block) if field Reply-To,/\bmpcustomer\.com\b/i -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: TeX qurestions, for anybody who cares to reply... .
On Jun 08 2010 20:51, Gary Kline wrote: snip He added, ``There are some news groups on the Net that have little to do with computers, per se. There are groups that argue about politics, religion, science, art, you name it. I don't waste my time with those.'' snip Nice ploy to generate interest in your novel. I'd change There are some groups on the Net that have little to Some groups on the Net have little. Likewise, There are groups that argue to Some groups argue, or perhaps You can find groups that argue. I try to avoid the passive There are whenever possible. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Jun 07 2010 22:12, Chris Hill wrote: On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote: [...] I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different format. I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must. I have clients like that too. What I've done - only once or twice, and really just to be a dick - is to do my writeup in ASCII text, then `mv foo foo.doc`. There, it's in word format! And Word really can open the file, so... That's great -- I'll have to remember that one. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Colors, mutt, termcap/terminfo
I finally got 256 colors working with mutt and zsh on FreeBSD. Even though both of these programs apparently use terminfo rather than termcap, a termcap entry must exist for your TERM setting, or they both complain. I had tried that before, but I was missing one key ingredient. The environment variable TERMCAP needed to be set to the path of the termcap file, even if it is /etc/termcap. Apparently, if TERMCAP isn't set, a built-in termcap table is used instead. The terminfo setting I wanted was rxvt-256color, which existed in terminfo but not in termcap. So, I edited /etc/termcap to include a setting for rxvt-256color, export TERMCAP=/etc/termcap, export TERM=rxvt-256color, and all is now right with the world. Of course, I only want to use 256 colors if I'm running under rxvt. So I wrote a shell script to start mutt that tests for that and sets an environment variable MUTT_COLORS to the name of a file that includes my mutt color settings (either .mutt-color256 or .mutt-color8). Then, in .muttrc: source ~/$MUTT_COLORS -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?
On Jun 06 2010 22:00, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 11:32:58AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I was a tcsh user before switching to zsh. But I was raised on the Bourne Shell, and used Korn shell a lot in the 90s. The C-shell versions of control flow commands always tripped me up, even though they're arguably more sane -- just because the sh versions flow off the fingertips. So sh-compatibility was my main reason, but I like the features of csh that zsh cherry-picked. Given my preference for (t)csh syntax over sh syntax for an interactive shell, I guess that doesn't give me a whole lot of motivation to try it out. Another response to my question discusses some other benefits, though. . . . Thanks for your perspective. My pleasure, Chad. If I had learned csh first, I'd probably stick with tcsh myself. I'd also like to publicly thank you on this list for encouraging me to try FreeBSD. I absolutely love it. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Jun 06 2010 21:56, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:34:16PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. It may be a little late to ask -- but I notice nobody else addressed the matter: Does your OO.o replacement have to be somewhat compatible with MS Office? If so . . . does it have to be two-way compatible? There are options for one-way compatibility (e.g., catdoc for turning MS Word files into plain text), but for being able to interoperate to roughly arbitrary degrees with users of MS Office I'm not aware of anything other than OO.o, KOffice, and whatever GNOME's using, that would work for the purposes you described. Maybe someone else can comment on the suitability of recent versions of Abiword and Gnumeric (for instance). Ever since it essentially stopped being possible to install OO.o from a binary package on FreeBSD for me (at least without also installing Java), I've dreaded the day I will no longer have the venerable OO.o install from way back when and some jackass expects me to talk back and forth via MS Excel. I loathe applications written in VBA, to put it mildly, and only my loathing for MS Windows and MS Office has kept that ancient OO.o install on one of my computers for so long. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] That's a very good point. For most of what I need to do, it's not an issue. But I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different format. I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Jun 07 2010 11:21, Anh Ky Huynh wrote: On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap me over to the right one. Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. There are some tips to speed up your Ooo. But if your Ooo took minute to start, I guess that your system has a low hardware? I wouldn't have thought that an Intel Core i3 M350 (2.27Ghz) with 4GB would be considered lo (sic) hardware. Everything else runs very quickly, even Windows 7 in VirtualBox. OOo is the only time I find myself waiting impatiently. For short/unstructure documents, I suggest you to use Ooo (it slows but you can type the document quickly:D) For long/structure documents, LaTeX is a good choice. It is said that ConTeXt is good replacement of LaTeX but I have never tried it. Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. Have you ever tried Google Spreadsheet or something like that? I'm not quite ready to hand all my confidential documents over to Google's servers. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Jun 07 2010 12:54, Alejandro Imass wrote: On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: On Jun 07 2010 11:21, Anh Ky Huynh wrote: On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap me over to the right one. Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. There are some tips to speed up your Ooo. But if your Ooo took minute to start, I guess that your system has a low hardware? I wouldn't have thought that an Intel Core i3 M350 (2.27Ghz) with 4GB would be considered lo (sic) hardware. Everything else runs very quickly, even Windows 7 in VirtualBox. OOo is the only time I find myself waiting impatiently. Well, now that I recall I had a similar issue with the Android SDK under Linux, and it's related to your problem because OO uses gjc (the GNU Java implementation) as a pre-requisite and Eclipse was using _that_ instead of the Sun jdk I had installed. Well the issue is that Eclipse _took FOREVER_ to start, much like what you are describiong right now with OO (albeit I use FBSD with OO in older hw w/ no problems). Anyway, chack to see if you may have a broken Java implementation, and check to see if it's possible to get OO to work with Sun's JRE 6, and give that a go and see. I have a gut feeling your problem is related to a broken Java VM somewhere in your machine. That's a good clue -- I'll let you know what I find out. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Jun 07 2010 18:16, Matthew Seaman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/2010 17:34:56, Chip Camden wrote: For most of what I need to do, it's not an issue. But I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different format. I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must. Heh. Do you always remember to save your MS Office documents in such a way that it clears the history before you e-mail them out? Many times taking a document and hitting 'Undo' a few times can reveal all sorts of stuff that you probably wouldn't have wanted to be made public. Lots of places refuse to permit sending out MS Office documents for that specific reason: PDF is generally acceptable even to the most unenlightened Windows users. Ideally though it should be possible to use an open standard, like XHTML or SVG, so the recipients could edit it themselves if needed. I'm not fond of Word format in the least. I've mentioned these kinds of vulnerabilities and others, but some clients are stubbornly clinging to old ways. That said, one of the clients I'm thinking about is exploring the idea of using a wiki instead of trading documents -- a move that I am encouraging vehemently. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Jun 07 2010 12:14, Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote: For most of what I need to do, it's not an issue. But I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that I send them specs in Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different format. I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when I must. The genuine Office runs in most of its appalling glory on Wine. Starts up far quicker than OO.o, too. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA Thanks, but no thanks. I can't type and drive a stake at the same time. Seriously, I'd like to avoid polluting my precious FreeBSD system with Microsoft bits, unless it's within a VM. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: office apps
On Jun 06 2010 19:56, Mike Jeays wrote: On June 6, 2010 04:34:16 pm Chip Camden wrote: This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap me over to the right one. Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. Gnumeric provides a good spreadsheet, although it does need X11. It supports charting, with a good variety of options. It installed very quickly on a Linux system, seems much lighter than OpenOffice Calc, and it starts much more quickly than Calc. pkg_add -r gnumeric should install it for you. Gnumeric *is* nice and quick. I'll use that for SS until I find something better. Thanks! -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?
On Jun 06 2010 10:31, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than copyleft. Do you use that as your interactive shell, for scripting, or both? Interactive only. For scripting, I stick to sh unless it gets too complex -- then I jump to Ruby. man zsh to see that there are so many features they had to break up the man pages. That's kind of scary. True, and it shows in its initial virtual size: sterling 62630 0.0 0.0 8264 1804 0 I10:42AM 0:00.00 sh sterling 62733 0.0 0.1 10284 2932 0 I10:42AM 0:00.01 csh sterling 62791 0.0 0.1 10284 2848 0 I10:43AM 0:00.01 tcsh sterling 70731 0.0 0.1 14580 4324 0 I10:46AM 0:00.05 zsh sterling 71773 0.0 0.1 10220 2908 0 I+ 10:46AM 0:00.01 bash But on a laptop with 4GB, I don't miss it. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?
On Jun 06 2010 12:21, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:50:43AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: On Jun 06 2010 10:31, Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:17:15PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than copyleft. Do you use that as your interactive shell, for scripting, or both? Interactive only. For scripting, I stick to sh unless it gets too complex -- then I jump to Ruby. I'm curious about why you prefer zsh for an interactive shell. What zsh features would you miss if you used tcsh instead (what I've been using)? I'm always willing to be convinced to try something better. I was a tcsh user before switching to zsh. But I was raised on the Bourne Shell, and used Korn shell a lot in the 90s. The C-shell versions of control flow commands always tripped me up, even though they're arguably more sane -- just because the sh versions flow off the fingertips. So sh-compatibility was my main reason, but I like the features of csh that zsh cherry-picked. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
office apps
This might not be the right list for this question -- if so, please slap me over to the right one. Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. Short of the full suite, how about just a spreadsheet program that supports complex formulas and charting? If it could also be used without X11 when charting isn't needed, that would make my day. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ncurses
On Jun 04 2010 19:52, Thomas Dickey wrote: On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 08:02:34AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Thanks to some help from Joel Dahl on the mutt-users list, I was able to restore correct color support in my mutt installation. But it raises a question about ncurses. It seems that building mutt with the devel/ncurses port installed creates the problem I was experiencing: most colors do not show up in mutt, and sounds familiar (layout differences, etc, depending on whether wide- or narrow characters are used). the line-drawing characters are borked. Deinstalling devel/ncurses and rebuilding mutt with the base version of ncurses solves the problem. However, x11/rxvt-unicode depends on devel/ncurses, so any time urxvt needs rebuilding we get devel/ncurses reinstalled. Any subsequent rebuild of mutt restores the original problem. Is there any way to sort this out? given a copy of the two build logs, I might be able to guess what's amiss. (I don't have a current FreeBSD to test directly on...) -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net Thanks for your response, but I solved the problem by specifying that mutt should use slang instead of ncurses. That works better in a couple of ways, so I'll go with that. I do, however, still have one small problem. I can't seem to get mutt to see that my urxvt has 256 colors enabled. infocmp shows colors#256 for rxvt-256color, but if I do 'export TERM=rxvt-256color' then zsh complains can't find terminal definition for rxvt-256color (though it lets me set it anyway). However, mutt still complains if I try to use any color above 8. With TERM set to rxvt infocmp shows colors#8 and tput colors shows 145. I'm confused. Obviously, not everyone is on the same page here. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?
On Jun 05 2010 22:35, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: hello, i am coming from the linux world where i was using the bash shell but i found out that there are also much more. can u tell me the basic differences between them?(pros and cons) thanks in advance ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I like zsh, because it's sh-compatible, brings in a lot of the good ideas from csh/tcsh, and the license appears to be copyfree rather than copyleft. man zsh to see that there are so many features they had to break up the man pages. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ncurses
Thanks to some help from Joel Dahl on the mutt-users list, I was able to restore correct color support in my mutt installation. But it raises a question about ncurses. It seems that building mutt with the devel/ncurses port installed creates the problem I was experiencing: most colors do not show up in mutt, and the line-drawing characters are borked. Deinstalling devel/ncurses and rebuilding mutt with the base version of ncurses solves the problem. However, x11/rxvt-unicode depends on devel/ncurses, so any time urxvt needs rebuilding we get devel/ncurses reinstalled. Any subsequent rebuild of mutt restores the original problem. Is there any way to sort this out? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ncurses
On Jun 04 2010 17:30, sghctoma wrote: not exactly a solution, rather a workaround, but you can build mutt with s-lang (WITH_MUTT_SLANG=YES) instead of ncurses.. it works for me.. Thanks for the tip. I'm not sure if I'll go that route, but I'm copying your response to the list for posterity's sake. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[sterl...@camdensoftware.com: Re: ncurses]
On Jun 04 2010 19:24, Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 10:12:12AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Thanks for all the info, but i get the same results in mutt-devel as I do in mutt. WITH_MUTT_SLANG didn't seem to take either. Is there a way to specify that mutt should use the system ncurses instead of devel/ncurses? Looking at the port's Makefile, it depends on the system ncurses library if neither WITH_SLANG nor WITH_NCURSES_PORT is set. But it could still link to the port's library if that is first in the link path. If you build rxvt-unicode with the TERMINFO option switched OFF, urxvt-unicode does not depend on devel/ncurses. If you then de-install devel/ncurses and recompile mutt, it must use the system library. But in my experience, using a wrong font, or setting the wrong LANG or LC_ALL in the environment is more likely to screw things up. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) Thank you -- I should have read the Makefile myself. It was WITH_SLANG, not WITH_MUTT_SLANG. That solves the problem, and has the added benefit of being able to use my default text color (SpringGreen) instead of having to stick to the 8 normal colors. I thought that might have also opened up urxvt's 256-color support, but mutt still thinks I have only 8 colors. At least I can default to my urxvt settings for normal text, though. Thanks again for your help! -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: .sh tar
On Jun 03 2010 10:03, ill...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 June 2010 07:42, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 09:32:17 +0800, Aiza aiz...@comclark.com wrote: When I exec tar from within a .sh shell script I get this message tar: Removing leading '/' from member names I have tar outputting to /dev/null and still get this message. With -v or without makes no difference. How can I stop this Depends on WHAT you want to stop - the illness or just its symptoms. :-) If it's just about symptoms, redirect the error messages into nirvana. tar [opts] [file] 1/dev/null 21 If you want to remove the REASON for tar: Removing leading '/' from member names, you need to re-create the archives and start archiving from a relative point (instead of from an absolute one), e. g. # cd / # tar cvf etc.tar etc/ (lazy man's method) instead of # tar cvf etc.tar /etc/ The extraction of the archive will usually start in the current directory, so # cd /usr/local/bin # tar xvf etc.tar won't give you an etc/ subtree in /usr/local/bin directory. tar -cvf - ./ -C / /dev/null ? I can't help wondering why the 'v' option is being specified, unless /dev/null needs more playing time. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: text editor
On Jun 03 2010 11:11, Murray Taylor wrote: Hmm i remember a 'game' where you opened a file then predicted what would happen if you just typed your name at the command prompt... then of course you had to do it to see if your guess was right... ie in vi dwight would delete a word then insert ght destroyed the odd file or two i remember with the addition of 'random' control key additions It would be unfortunate if your parents named you :!rm -r *, even though they affectionately called you little Remy Star and you made good friends with Bobby Tables (http://xkcd.com/327/). -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: text editor
On Jun 02 2010 11:45, Robert Bonomi wrote: On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:10:22AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I remember writing our own text editor, and it had to fit in 64K. I remember when . . . I got nuthin'. I think my first text editor was edlin, and it *sucked*. . . . not counting this nifty editor I called pencil. The phrase son of an edlin has happily been retired in my vocabulary for some time. If you're not aware of it, ed(1) is as capable or more of causing pain as edlin was and it's still in the FreeBSD base. Anybody else familiar with TECO? *EVIL* grin It could do a _LOT_ of things, but a complex command string was nearly indistinguishable from line noise. :) ED is the standard text editor! http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html Yes, I remember TECO -- I've used it to trash many a file. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: text editor
I remember writing our own text editor, and it had to fit in 64K. On Jun 01 2010 07:09, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 07:49:56AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: Young whippersnappers. *Eight* was the good old days, back before the web was invented. No -- those are the even better old days. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
What have I done?
This question is going to make me sound pretty stupid, but I haven't been able to figure it out. I had mplayer (the console version) running in one urxvt, and I thought I had a different urxvt focused when I typed a command (I think it was 'make install clean') -- but mplayer was actually focused instead. The ENTER caused mplayer to close (I was listening to a stream URL), and because I had exec'd mplayer its terminal window closed as well. I cursed myself for losing focus on my focus, and attempted to restart mplayer. It acts like it is playing the track, but no sound. I've tried unmute, turning the volume all the way up, deleting my .mplayer files, still no joy. I even shutdown and powered off and then rebooted. Any other suggestions? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What have I done?
On May 24 2010 12:21, William Vining wrote: I experienced a similar situation under different circumstances. It turned out that the sysctl variable hw.snd.default_unit was refering to the wrong sound card. Not sure if thats the problem, but it might be worth checking if you have multiple sound cards. -- WFV wfvin...@gmail.com On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: This question is going to make me sound pretty stupid, but I haven't been able to figure it out. I had mplayer (the console version) running in one urxvt, and I thought I had a different urxvt focused when I typed a command (I think it was 'make install clean') -- but mplayer was actually focused instead. The ENTER caused mplayer to close (I was listening to a stream URL), and because I had exec'd mplayer its terminal window closed as well. I cursed myself for losing focus on my focus, and attempted to restart mplayer. It acts like it is playing the track, but no sound. I've tried unmute, turning the volume all the way up, deleting my .mplayer files, still no joy. I even shutdown and powered off and then rebooted. Any other suggestions? -- OK, there's more going on here than I realized. My sound seems to be disabled if I load the driver in /boot/loader.conf, but works OK if I use kldload after booting instead. Bizarre. I've repeated the experiment several times with the same results, using either snd_driver or snd_hda. cat /dev/sndstat (when working): FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) Installed devices: pcm0: HDA IDT 92HD81B1X PCM #0 Analog (play/rec) default pcm1: HDA IDT 92HD81B1X PCM #1 Analog (rec) pcm2: HDA Intel G45 HDMI PCM #0 DisplayPort (play) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
HM55
I'm posting about this issue again now that I know more about what I'm talking about. My ASUS notebook has integrated Intel HD graphics in the HM55 chipset. The intel driver for Xorg does not recognize it. I have tried hacking the device ID (0x0046) into the various supplied Intel drivers, with no luck. Is anyone working on supporting this chipset? How can I help? I haven't written a device driver in more than 20 years, but I'd be willing to try if someone can point me in the right direction. As it stands, I have to use the vesa driver, which doesn't make good use of my screen real estate. Regards, -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
xmobar
Today's port upgrade for xmobar broke my .xmobarrc. It no longer accepts commands whose arguments contain escaped quotes. I was able to work around it by changing the command I was spawning to not require quotes, but where should I report this issue? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Very simple file sharing between FreeBSD server and windows client ?
Thanks for all the replies. FreeNAS looks like the ticket. BTW, sharity-light is marked as broken in the ports -- does not compile. I'm on 8.0-STABLE amd64. On May 11 2010 06:43, Andrew Gould wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:00 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation for NAS that works well for both FreeBSD and Windows clients? IME, among commercial offerings, virtually all support SMB (via Samba) but only the high-end (large relatively costly) ones support NFS also. (A while back, the largest Buffalo that Fry's had -- 4TB IIRC -- claimed to support NFS; all other NAS of any brand mentioned only SMB and DELNI.) You can use an inexpensive SMB-only NAS with a FreeBSD client, but you'll need Samba on the client. Another item to consider in this discussion is sharity-light, an easy-to-use program that allows FreeBSD to mount Windows shares. Sharity-light is in the ports and Sharity is available as a commercial product: http://www.freshports.org/net/sharity-light http://www.obdev.at/products/sharity/index.html Andrew Gould ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Very simple file sharing between FreeBSD server and windows client ?
On May 10 2010 08:04, Andrew Gould wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Frank Bonnet f.bon...@esiee.fr wrote: Hello Is there a simple software to share files between a FreeBSD server and a windows client other than Samba which is a bit overkill for my needings, I just want to share a directory (and subdirectories) of my server with ONE Windows client, to facilitate some files exchanges between two users. Thanks for any infos Some things simply aren't that simple if you're setting them up yourself. The good news is that you get to choose the type of complexity you want to deal with: 1. Samba. 2. You could purchase a networked drive (network attached storage) that both computers can access. Many retail stores now carry these. 3. Webdav (included with Apache 2.2). This setup is as complex as Samba; but you can access it securely across the internet via SSL. Good luck, Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Does anyone have a recommendation for NAS that works well for both FreeBSD and Windows clients? Regards, -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Addition to BSDstats
I like that idea. On May 07 2010 09:37, Fbsd1 wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2010, Robert Huff wrote: The problem with not including bsdstats in sysinstall or some other means of bringing it to peoples attention is that it gets forgotten and loses its effectiveness. Maybe it could go in the monthly subscription list reminder. I think everyone agrees that bsdstats needs more visibility right from the virgin install. Since its not appropriate to include bsdstats in the sysinstall program. How about getting the RELEASE team to change the content of the default logon message of the day /etc/motd, to advocacy installing the bsdstats package. What do you think about this idea? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Space on root partition
When partitioning the drive, I took the defaults -- which seems to create a root partition that's too small. I'm at 59% usage, and every time I install a new kernel I have to rm /boot/kernel.old to get it to go. Two questions: 1. Is there an easy way to resize partitions? 2. Is there anything in root I could safely symlink off to another partition? Here's a df: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad4s1a507630 27338819363259%/ devfs 11 0 100%/dev /dev/ad4s1e507630 18467002 0%/tmp /dev/ad4s1f 463086528 21941374 404098232 5%/usr /dev/ad4s1d 4848462 201194 4259392 5%/var and here's du -x /: 2 /.snap 1 /dev 2 /tmp 2 /usr 2 /var 56 /etc/defaults 6 /etc/X11 8 /etc/bluetooth 8 /etc/devd 4 /etc/gnats 6 /etc/gss 252 /etc/mail 74 /etc/mtree 38 /etc/pam.d 56 /etc/periodic/daily 6 /etc/periodic/monthly 40 /etc/periodic/security 14 /etc/periodic/weekly 118 /etc/periodic 4 /etc/ppp 396 /etc/rc.d 36 /etc/security 2 /etc/skel 144 /etc/ssh 12 /etc/ssl 2 /etc/zfs 1742/etc 2 /cdrom 2 /dist 1180/bin 24 /boot/defaults 2 /boot/firmware 249960 /boot/kernel 310 /boot/modules 2 /boot/zfs 251788 /boot 354 /lib/geom 7628/lib 1010/libexec 2 /media 8 /mnt 2 /proc 4464/rescue 2 /root/.gem/ruby/1.8/cache 2 /root/.gem/ruby/1.8/doc 2 /root/.gem/ruby/1.8/gems 2 /root/.gem/ruby/1.8/specifications 10 /root/.gem/ruby/1.8 12 /root/.gem/ruby 14 /root/.gem 4 /root/.config 10 /root/bin 74 /root 5452/sbin 273379 / Any help much appreciated. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 30 2010 13:39, S Roberts wrote: Hello Chip, Good to hear from you.., On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:52:13 -0700 Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: On Apr 26 2010 22:00, Carl Chave wrote: More info: I found the following in the output of pciconf -vl: no...@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10891a3b chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network From here: http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=174 It looks like someone has already patched 8.0-STABLE: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6310highlight=Atheros+AR9285 The link to the .diff file 404's now, though. How can I get a copy? Or maybe I should just upgrade to STABLE? Well.., personally, I'd ping the patch author to confirm, but Yes, bumping to next STABLE would be the preferred option myself.., Regards, S Roberts Just for closure: upgrading to 8.0-STABLE went smoothly, and the wireless device works! Thanks for the help. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gaming
On Apr 29 2010 12:54, David Kelly wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:10:20AM -0700, Joe's Morgue wrote: Looking thru your manuals, I have not seen anything about gaming on a FreeBSD machine. ? You are not reading the manual correctly. Then *entire* manual is the game. :-) -- You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 26 2010 22:00, Carl Chave wrote: More info: I found the following in the output of pciconf -vl: no...@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10891a3b chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network From here: http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=174 It looks like someone has already patched 8.0-STABLE: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=6310highlight=Atheros+AR9285 The link to the .diff file 404's now, though. How can I get a copy? Or maybe I should just upgrade to STABLE? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 26 2010 22:00, Carl Chave wrote: More info: I found the following in the output of pciconf -vl: no...@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10891a3b chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network From here: http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=174 0x002b is Atheros AR9285 Wireless LAN 802.11 a/b/g/n Controller ___ Thanks! That's a great resource. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 25 2010 22:15, Kevin Kinsey wrote: Let me preface my commentary with I'm way out of my league, so #include disclaimer.h and all that ... For starters, in re: above, didn't someone suggest libpciaccess as the source for scanpci? I can't tell if you are misunderstanding what S Roberts suggested, or I am misunderstanding what you are responding. I'm pretty sure there's some misunderstanding here, though. Thanks for your response, Kevin. I did try rebuilding libpciaccess, to no avail. I also searched elsewhere. I thought we had pciconf output that stated it was an Atheros chipset? In that case, it would be the Azurewave, right? I'd suspect it might be supported under ath(4), but you'd wanna read the manpage and possibly even the source for any kind of confirmation on that; the manpage does specifically say that adapters based on the AR5005VL aren't supported. However, the manpage might be slightly out-of-date, also. Yes, pciconf says Atheros. I guess that does rule out Intel, and I see from a little searching that at least some Azurewave devices use an Atheros chipset. I, too, am a little out of my depth in this region, as is probably obvious from my posts. The other thing I recall seeing is that a new variant of a supported chipset comes out, and the driver code doesn't recognize it even though it might work well. Used to be something like a VENDOR_ID string in the source files; I don't know if it's still the case, but if it was, some people have been able to hack their own device support in rare cases simply by adding the new info to the driver file and recompiling it, but you'd want someone with a lot more $OS_foo than I have to help out with that (or tell you if it's even possible). This is open-source stuff; you might even get sam@ 's attention and get help from the writer himself if you're wearing your lucky sneakers. Yes, I've seen that done with video drivers. Perhaps I'll give it a go with the ath or uath driver, neither of which work for me out of the box (so to speak). Thanks again. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 24 2010 23:51, S Roberts wrote: I believe its been bundled into the libpciaccess port: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/devel/libpciaccess/ Doesn't seem to be there, and google isn't being helpful. A search of freshports.org didn't turn up anything either. Searching freebsd.org only shows our conversation. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 25 2010 21:26, S Roberts wrote: Hmmm.., you sure your ports system is installed / up-to-date there? Do you have any of the docs that would have shipped with the notebook? If not, I searched ASUS, and found a link to the English version manual here: http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-usproduct=3model=K72Ftype=mapf_type=19 I've not downloaded it, so please see if there's anything that can assist. There **are** other resources at the ASUS site - you just have to use the menu on the right to select your particular model and review the list of resources that gets returned.., Hope this helps.., Regards, S Roberts Thanks for the attempt to help, but ports are up-to-date. I'm on 8.0-RELEASE amd64 -- maybe scanpci isn't available on amd64? The download for the manual is exactly the same as the paper manual that came with the notebook. It gives very little technical information. On the web site, all I could find is that it's 802.11n capable, which I already knew from the sales pamphlet. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 25 2010 16:18, Chip Camden wrote: On Apr 25 2010 21:26, S Roberts wrote: Hmmm.., you sure your ports system is installed / up-to-date there? Do you have any of the docs that would have shipped with the notebook? If not, I searched ASUS, and found a link to the English version manual here: http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-usproduct=3model=K72Ftype=mapf_type=19 I've not downloaded it, so please see if there's anything that can assist. There **are** other resources at the ASUS site - you just have to use the menu on the right to select your particular model and review the list of resources that gets returned.., Hope this helps.., Regards, S Roberts Thanks for the attempt to help, but ports are up-to-date. I'm on 8.0-RELEASE amd64 -- maybe scanpci isn't available on amd64? The download for the manual is exactly the same as the paper manual that came with the notebook. It gives very little technical information. On the web site, all I could find is that it's 802.11n capable, which I already knew from the sales pamphlet. OK -- searching the ASUS site for Windows 7 64bit docs (that's what came on it), I find three possibilities for the wireless device: 1. Intel 1000 2. Intel 6200 3. Azurewave Looks like both of the first two are addressed by driver iwn on OpenBSD, but not on FreeBSD. The third one I don't see anywhere. Looking here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers#FreeBSD Looks like that page was last updated for FreeBSD on April 25. In any case, I tried iwn, and that doesn't work. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Wireless networking question
A new notebook (ASUS K72F) has integrated wireles networking. The technical specifications are sadly lacking, so I don't know what chipset. The wired ethernet appears to use uath, but that's not working as a wlandev. Since most everything else is Intel, I figured it could be an Intel chipset, and since it supports 802.11n, I think its probably in the 6000 series. I tried all the Intel drivers that are listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers#FreeBSD And none of them appeared to work. Looking a little further down, it seems that the Intel 6000 is supported by iwn on OpenBSD, but not on FreeBSD. But I could be barking up the entirely wrong tree. Can anyone shed some light here? Is there any way to query the hardware, short of opening the box (which will void the warranty)? TIA -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 24 2010 13:39, Chip Camden wrote: A new notebook (ASUS K72F) has integrated wireles networking. The technical specifications are sadly lacking, so I don't know what chipset. The wired ethernet appears to use uath, but that's not working as a wlandev. Since most everything else is Intel, I figured it could be an Intel chipset, and since it supports 802.11n, I think its probably in the 6000 series. I tried all the Intel drivers that are listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers#FreeBSD And none of them appeared to work. Looking a little further down, it seems that the Intel 6000 is supported by iwn on OpenBSD, but not on FreeBSD. But I could be barking up the entirely wrong tree. Can anyone shed some light here? Is there any way to query the hardware, short of opening the box (which will void the warranty)? TIA -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org More info: I found the following in the output of pciconf -vl: no...@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x10891a3b chip=0x002b168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network a...@pci0:3:0:0:class=0x02 card=0x18201043 chip=0x10631969 rev=0xc0 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Attansic (Now owned by Atheros)' class = network subclass = ethernet Looks like the first entry show here is my wireless (guessing), because alc0 is my wired. Any ideas from that what driver I should be using? I've tried 'ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev ath0', as well as ath1..9 and uath0..9, and I always get: ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE2: Device not configured -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 24 2010 21:55, S Roberts wrote: snip Easiest option would be to run a livecd of another more populous *nix flavour and see what it makes of the hardware. Needless to say, if you're so bold, you **can** always load windows and let window tell you what it is ;-) Regards, S Roberts The really sad thing is that notebook this came with Windows on it. Next time, I'll make sure I write down everything in Device Manager *before* I wipe Windows off the hard drive. Thanks for the response. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Wireless networking question
On Apr 24 2010 22:07, S Roberts wrote: Not a whole lot there.., Does scanpci -v tell you any more details about the hardware? Regards, S Roberts I don't seem to have scanpci on my system, nor do I see it in the ports tree -- where would I find it? Thanks -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days
On Apr 22 2010 10:24, Gabor PALI wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: lang/ghc is still marked IGNORE, unless I'm missing something. Yes, if your system is older than 6.0 on i386 and older then 7.0 on amd64, it is still ignored, since we do not support those platforms. Otherwise it must be okay. Cheers, g. I'm on 8.0-RELEASE, amd64. But it's working today. I use portsnap to get the updates -- is there a delay in that process? Yesterday it didn't get it, today it did. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days
On Apr 22 2010 18:11, Gabor PALI wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: I'm on 8.0-RELEASE amd64 With a recently updated ports tree? What is the $FreeBSD$ Id in the Makefile? :g # $FreeBSD: ports/lang/ghc/Makefile,v 1.85 2010/04/21 19:53:03 pgj Exp $ Now I'm having another problem. I was able to do portupgrade for everything, but when I try to startx, xmonad complains about not haveing limgmp.so.8, which is what the old math/libgmp4 port created. I've done a make clean/deinstall/reinstall of ghc and xmonad, but that didn't help. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days
On Apr 22 2010 12:07, Chip Camden wrote: On Apr 22 2010 18:11, Gabor PALI wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: I'm on 8.0-RELEASE amd64 With a recently updated ports tree? What is the $FreeBSD$ Id in the Makefile? :g # $FreeBSD: ports/lang/ghc/Makefile,v 1.85 2010/04/21 19:53:03 pgj Exp $ Now I'm having another problem. I was able to do portupgrade for everything, but when I try to startx, xmonad complains about not haveing limgmp.so.8, which is what the old math/libgmp4 port created. I've done a make clean/deinstall/reinstall of ghc and xmonad, but that didn't help. I solved this by deinstalling math/gmp, reinstalling math/libgmp4, copying libgmp.so.8 to another directory, deinstalling math/libgmp4, reinstalling math/gmp, then copying my saved libgmp.so.8 back to /usr/local/lib. I think maybe my package database has become corrupted somehow. Is there a good way to rebuild that from scratch, or fix it? The Handbook didn't seem to say anything on the subject. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days
On Apr 22 2010 16:08, Chuck Swiger wrote: Hi-- On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Chip Camden wrote: I think maybe my package database has become corrupted somehow. Is there a good way to rebuild that from scratch, or fix it? The Handbook didn't seem to say anything on the subject. Try this sequence: portsdb -Fu pkgdb -aF (Additional runs of pkgdb -F with manual intervention might be needed if all cannot be auto-repaired. :-) Regards, -- -Chuck Thanks much! -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [ HEADS UP ] Ports unstable for the next 10 days
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:07:46PM +0300, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:14:20 +0300 Ion-Mihai Tetcu ite...@freebsd.org wrote: A switch to use newer GMP version has been committed. Unfortunately lang/ghc and dependent ports (and possibly lang/gnat-gcc44) were broken by this. The brokenness wasn't detected in our -exp run because of being masked by other issues. A fix has been committed :) -- IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD user Intellectual Property is nowhere near as valuable as Intellect FreeBSD committer - ite...@freebsd.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B lang/ghc is still marked IGNORE, unless I'm missing something. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: intel video driver
I just found out that the video chip is HM55, if that helps. On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 01:52:17PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Salutations, I'm fairly new to this list and have only lurked until now. Please forgive me if this question has been asked before. I've exhausted the man pages, google, and comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc. I've installed FreeBSD 8.0-release amd64 on an Intel Core i3 with integrated HD graphics. Everything's working fine except for the video driver for X11. pciconf -lv yields: vgap...@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x03 card=0x17021043 chip=0x00468086 rev=0x12 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = display subclass = VGA The intel driver cannot see the device at all. The vesa driver works, but it's limited to 1024x768, which on my 1600x900 notebook screen presents a suboptimal viewing experience. /var/log/Xorg.0.log reports the available timings: (II) VESA(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 (II) VESA(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode (II) VESA(0): redX: 0.610 redY: 0.355 greenX: 0.333 greenY: 0.610 (II) VESA(0): blueX: 0.152 blueY: 0.100 whiteX: 0.313 whiteY: 0.329 (II) VESA(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 (II) VESA(0): Supported detailed timing: (II) VESA(0): clock: 110.4 MHz Image Size: 382 x 214 mm (II) VESA(0): h_active: 1600 h_sync: 1664 h_sync_end 1706 h_blank_end 2000 h_border: 0 (II) VESA(0): v_active: 900 v_sync: 903 v_sync_end 906 v_blanking: 920 v_border: 0 (WW) VESA(0): Unknown vendor-specific block f (II) VESA(0): AUO (II) VESA(0): B173RW01 V0 (II) VESA(0): EDID (in hex): (II) VESA(0): 000006af9e10 (II) VESA(0): 01120103802615780a45259c5b559c27 (II) VESA(0): 1950540001010101010101010101 (II) VESA(0): 010101010101202b409061841430402a (II) VESA(0): 33007ed61018000f (II) VESA(0): 002000fe0041 (II) VESA(0): 554f0a20202020202020202000fe (II) VESA(0): 004231373352573031205630200a00bb (II) VESA(0): EDID vendor AUO, prod id 4254 (II) VESA(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) VESA(0): Modeline 1600x900x0.0 110.40 1600 1664 1706 2000 900 903 906 920 -hsync -vsync (55.2 kHz) And I added a ModeLine to the Monitor section of xorg.conf to address that: ModeLine 1600x900 110.4 1600 1664 1706 2000 900 903 906 920 -hsync -vsync But no dice. I think vesa just isn't capable of that mode. The ModeLine doesn't help the intel driver to see it either. This thread: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=9606page=2 led me to believe that I need an Intel driver entry for (0x8086, 0x0046 in /sys/dev/drm/drm_pciids.h along with corresponding tests in the correct driver-specific header file, but I don't know what driver that should be, or if I even have one that would work. I'm tempted to just try them each one a time, starting with i915 -- could I cause any permanent damage? Anyone have similar experience with this setup? I don't even know for sure what the video chip is on this system, but since it's on an i3 I think it would have to be PM55, PM57, HM55, HM57, QM57, or QS57. Any help or sympathy would be appreciated. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
intel video driver
Salutations, I'm fairly new to this list and have only lurked until now. Please forgive me if this question has been asked before. I've exhausted the man pages, google, and comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc. I've installed FreeBSD 8.0-release amd64 on an Intel Core i3 with integrated HD graphics. Everything's working fine except for the video driver for X11. pciconf -lv yields: vgap...@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x03 card=0x17021043 chip=0x00468086 rev=0x12 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' class = display subclass = VGA The intel driver cannot see the device at all. The vesa driver works, but it's limited to 1024x768, which on my 1600x900 notebook screen presents a suboptimal viewing experience. /var/log/Xorg.0.log reports the available timings: (II) VESA(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4 (II) VESA(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode (II) VESA(0): redX: 0.610 redY: 0.355 greenX: 0.333 greenY: 0.610 (II) VESA(0): blueX: 0.152 blueY: 0.100 whiteX: 0.313 whiteY: 0.329 (II) VESA(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0 (II) VESA(0): Supported detailed timing: (II) VESA(0): clock: 110.4 MHz Image Size: 382 x 214 mm (II) VESA(0): h_active: 1600 h_sync: 1664 h_sync_end 1706 h_blank_end 2000 h_border: 0 (II) VESA(0): v_active: 900 v_sync: 903 v_sync_end 906 v_blanking: 920 v_border: 0 (WW) VESA(0): Unknown vendor-specific block f (II) VESA(0): AUO (II) VESA(0): B173RW01 V0 (II) VESA(0): EDID (in hex): (II) VESA(0): 000006af9e10 (II) VESA(0): 01120103802615780a45259c5b559c27 (II) VESA(0): 1950540001010101010101010101 (II) VESA(0): 010101010101202b409061841430402a (II) VESA(0): 33007ed61018000f (II) VESA(0): 002000fe0041 (II) VESA(0): 554f0a20202020202020202000fe (II) VESA(0): 004231373352573031205630200a00bb (II) VESA(0): EDID vendor AUO, prod id 4254 (II) VESA(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) VESA(0): Modeline 1600x900x0.0 110.40 1600 1664 1706 2000 900 903 906 920 -hsync -vsync (55.2 kHz) And I added a ModeLine to the Monitor section of xorg.conf to address that: ModeLine 1600x900 110.4 1600 1664 1706 2000 900 903 906 920 -hsync -vsync But no dice. I think vesa just isn't capable of that mode. The ModeLine doesn't help the intel driver to see it either. This thread: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=9606page=2 led me to believe that I need an Intel driver entry for (0x8086, 0x0046 in /sys/dev/drm/drm_pciids.h along with corresponding tests in the correct driver-specific header file, but I don't know what driver that should be, or if I even have one that would work. I'm tempted to just try them each one a time, starting with i915 -- could I cause any permanent damage? Anyone have similar experience with this setup? I don't even know for sure what the video chip is on this system, but since it's on an i3 I think it would have to be PM55, PM57, HM55, HM57, QM57, or QS57. Any help or sympathy would be appreciated. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
XFCE Themes don't work
I am using FreeBSD 7.0 Release and XFCE4. I have downloaded and extracted some themes into /usr/local/share/themes/ and reset the permissions to 777, they do not appear on the themes list in the Settings control panel. I also copied them into ~./themes, reset the permissions and they still do not appear on the list. I do have the gtk-xfce-engine-2.4.2_1 installed. What do I have to do to get these themes to appear on the themes list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't access cdrom as regular user
Rudy wrote: So as root I set the permissions to 777 on acd0, then after a reboot the permissions were reset back to what they were previously. What do I have to do to get access to my cd drive on my regular account? Edit your /etc/devfs.conf file... Add this line: permacd00666 Simulate the boot-up of devfs: /etc/rc.d/devfs restart (easier than rebooting) - Rudy Thanks Rudy, that fixed that problem, now though another has popped up - after listening to a cd, the system doesn't release the drive so the cd won't eject, I have to reboot to get the cd out. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can't access cdrom as regular user
I can't access my cd drive on my regular login. I get this message - CD-ROM read or access error (or no audio disc in drive). Please make sure you have access permissions to: /dev/acd0 So as root I set the permissions to 777 on acd0, then after a reboot the permissions were reset back to what they were previously. What do I have to do to get access to my cd drive on my regular account? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
