Pine
What is a good alternative to Pine? It would seem it is nolonger available for freebsd? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
pine
Hi everyone,
I am having some problems setting up pine && .pinerc using
FreeBSD 6.0 - STABLE. My ISP uses POP and I am using thier SMTP for
outgoing. I spoke to the helpdesk and the POP server does not support ssl.
Pine was compiled and installed with support for POP3
here are some lines from my .pinerc;
smtp-server=mail.myisp.net.au
inbox-path={pop.myisp.net.au/pop3}inbox
When I launch pine with the above settings Pine uses INSECURE login and
password. Even though the login is INSECURE, I can access my mail and use
newsgroups.
I have tried using;
inbox-path={pop.myisp.net.au/pop3/secure}inbox
but when I launch pine I get the error message;
'Can't do secure authentication with this server'
If you can offer advice could you please CC me as I am not subscribed to
the questions list. I know this question is not an OS question, but I
do not like the idea of sending my login details unencrypted through
the ISP network.
Thankyou,
caleb
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Re: Pine
Hi Charles, Thursday, May 19, 2005, 7:37:52 PM, you contributed this to our collective wisdom: > What is a good alternative to Pine? It would seem it is nolonger > available for freebsd? pine is still possible tu run under FreeBSD, try /usr/ports/mail/pine4 good alternative is mutt - /usr/ports/mail/mutt -- Best Regards, DanGer, ICQ: 261701668 | e-mail protecting at: http://www.2pu.net/ http://danger.rulez.sk | proxy list at:http://www.proxy-web.com/ | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! [ Space for rent. Cheap!! ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Pine
When I try to fetch pine it cannot find it. Thanks I will check out mutt Charles Lamb Vision Payment Solutions Senior Helpdesk Technician / IT Administrator -Original Message- From: Daniel Gerzo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:44 PM To: Charles Lamb Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pine Hi Charles, Thursday, May 19, 2005, 7:37:52 PM, you contributed this to our collective wisdom: > What is a good alternative to Pine? It would seem it is nolonger > available for freebsd? pine is still possible tu run under FreeBSD, try /usr/ports/mail/pine4 good alternative is mutt - /usr/ports/mail/mutt -- Best Regards, DanGer, ICQ: 261701668 | e-mail protecting at: http://www.2pu.net/ http://danger.rulez.sk | proxy list at: http://www.proxy-web.com/ | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! [ Space for rent. Cheap!! ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 01:46:30PM -0400, Charles Lamb wrote: > When I try to fetch pine it cannot find it. If you want help with that, please be more specific. Kris pgpEkq5dmj33L.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pine
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 11:14:47AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 01:46:30PM -0400, Charles Lamb wrote: > > When I try to fetch pine it cannot find it. > > If you want help with that, please be more specific. > > Kris P.S. In future, please don't reply to existing messages when posting a new (unrelated) question. Apart from anything else, it means that you're less likely to get a response. pgpFRYsSfjD9r.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pine
On 2005-05-19 13:37, Charles Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is a good alternative to Pine? It would seem it is nolonger > available for freebsd? It certainly is available. Where did you look for it? gothmog:/root# pkg_info | grep pine pine-4.62 PINE(tm) -- a Program for Internet News & Email pine-pgp-filters-1.1 Simple, fast, sh-based filters to integrate Pine with gnupg gothmog:/root# ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine
2005/5/19, Charles Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > What is a good alternative to Pine? It would seem it is nolonger > available for freebsd? There's Cone (/usr/ports/mail/cone/). I found it similar to Pine. Much easier to use than Mutt. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine
On Thursday 19 May 2005 18:37, Charles Lamb wrote: > What is a good alternative to Pine? It would seem it is nolonger > available for freebsd? The pine distfile is generic unix source code, if you can't fetch it, it's probably just a temporary server problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine
Just a point of curiousity here, how are you trying to fetch pine? pkg_add -r pine, or pkg_add -r pine4 ? Only the latter works. That, and if you'r etrying to retrieve it from the default server, no shock that it fails. That server gets quite overloaded during the day. I'm getting more and more tempted to start up a wiki for newbies on good package management practices and port management. The handbook seems to deal well with these things once you know they need to be done, but for someone starting out, they have no idea that they need to be doing this start with. Granted, an argument could be made that you should read the handbook cover to cover before you begin. ;) Who actually DOES that though? Tony On Fri, 20 May 2005, RW wrote: On Thursday 19 May 2005 18:37, Charles Lamb wrote: What is a good alternative to Pine? It would seem it is nolonger available for freebsd? The pine distfile is generic unix source code, if you can't fetch it, it's probably just a temporary server problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: pine
On Wednesday 14 December 2005 01:01, caleb wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I am having some problems setting up pine && .pinerc using
> FreeBSD 6.0 - STABLE. My ISP uses POP and I am using thier SMTP for
> outgoing. I spoke to the helpdesk and the POP server does not support ssl.
>
> I have tried using;
>
> inbox-path={pop.myisp.net.au/pop3/secure}inbox
>
> but when I launch pine I get the error message;
>
> 'Can't do secure authentication with this server'
If the server supports neither ssl, nor any form secure authentication, there
nothing you can do to protect your password.
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Re: pine
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, RW wrote: If the server supports neither ssl, nor any form secure authentication, there nothing you can do to protect your password. Hi RW, Thanks for your reply. Would IPSEC be an option for securing my login details or kerberos? caleb -- There is no spoon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: pine
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:12:38PM +1100, caleb wrote: > Would IPSEC be an option for securing my login > details or kerberos? Nope. Unless the ISP's mail server supports some form of encryption, there's nothing you can do. On the other hand, your desktop machine is probably only about two hops from your mail server, and those are inside the ISP's data center, so there isn't much chance for somebody to sniff your credentials. --Mac pgptsd68Mq8Sy.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: pine
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RW >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 6:08 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Cc: caleb >Subject: Re: pine > > >> 'Can't do secure authentication with this server' > >If the server supports neither ssl, nor any form secure >authentication, there >nothing you can do to protect your password. Garbage. The first thing you can do is go out and shoo the crackers off the telephone pole who are tapped into your phone line and sniffing your passwords. Then you can ask your ISP to start locking the door to his NOC and kick out all the crackers who have sleeping bags in the NOC and are tapped into the ISP's ethernet cable from his router to his mail server. But the thing that would probably put your mind at ease the most is to stop going to Hollywood movies like The Net which make it appear as though crackers can magically sniff your cleartext passwords when they have access to the network between your PC and the ISP's mailserver. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: pine
* Ted Mittelstaedt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051214 15:22]: > > > >> 'Can't do secure authentication with this server' > > > >If the server supports neither ssl, nor any form secure > >authentication, there > >nothing you can do to protect your password. > > Garbage. > > The first thing you can do is go out and shoo the crackers > off the telephone pole who are tapped into your phone line > and sniffing your passwords. > > Then you can ask your ISP to start locking the door to his > NOC and kick out all the crackers who have sleeping bags in > the NOC and are tapped into the ISP's ethernet cable from his > router to his mail server. > > But the thing that would probably put your mind at ease the most > is to stop going to Hollywood movies like The Net which make it appear > as though crackers can magically sniff your cleartext passwords > when they have access to the network between your > PC and the ISP's mailserver. Have you ever seen the output of tcpdump? You see anything on the same network as you. So any of the following *likely* situations leaves your non-encrypted password open for sniffing: 1) Wireless access, *any* wireless access. 2) Cable modem pools, or any internet hookup where there's a communal line shared. 3) public networks (OK, I know the scenario presented is for home usage, but it's worth it to put this point here). 4) Any network where a computer has been at all compromised. 5) Any ISP with untrustable SysAdmins (I've known this to happen). 6) Almost a corrolary to 5) and 3); any ISP with a compromised machine. You cannot assume that there are not nasty sniffers on your line. I have seen passwords sniffed out in all kinds of places. And with that, I go back into lurking mode. gwen. gamergothgeekgrrl. http://www.gw3n.com/ * martygreene shivvers why is it so damn cold? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: pine
>-Original Message- >From: gwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:35 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: RW; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; caleb >Subject: Re: pine > > >* Ted Mittelstaedt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051214 15:22]: >> >> >> >> 'Can't do secure authentication with this server' >> > >> >If the server supports neither ssl, nor any form secure >> >authentication, there >> >nothing you can do to protect your password. >> >> Garbage. >> >> The first thing you can do is go out and shoo the crackers >> off the telephone pole who are tapped into your phone line >> and sniffing your passwords. >> >> Then you can ask your ISP to start locking the door to his >> NOC and kick out all the crackers who have sleeping bags in >> the NOC and are tapped into the ISP's ethernet cable from his >> router to his mail server. >> >> But the thing that would probably put your mind at ease the most >> is to stop going to Hollywood movies like The Net which make it appear >> as though crackers can magically sniff your cleartext passwords >> when they have access to the network between your >> PC and the ISP's mailserver. > >Have you ever seen the output of tcpdump? You see anything on the >same network as you. So any of the following *likely* situations >leaves your non-encrypted password open for sniffing: > >1) Wireless access, *any* wireless access. Er, WEP anyone? Do you really think if this poster is smart enough to figure out how to turn on SSL on pine that he hasn't already thought of that? >2) Cable modem pools, or any internet hookup where there's a communal >line shared. Nope either. If cable networks allowed unicast packets to flood every subscriber then it would knock all their subscribers offline. Consider the typical cable modem is a 2-3MB device. Now compare that the the average amount of bandwidth in use on a typical cable segment - we are talking hundreds of mbts. Your not going to stuff all that traffic down a cable modem. As for other communal networks, granted if such a network was plugged into a HUB and not a SWITCH then yes. How likely do you think that scenario is? Even 10/100 24 port switches are going for under $50 on Ebay these days, so those on complete shoestring networks have no excuse for keeping an ancient hub in service. Granted while you can flood a switch to force it into unicast mode, the network then crawls, lots of complaints result, miscreant soon taken care of. >3) public networks (OK, I know the scenario presented is for home >usage, but it's worth it to put this point here). Yes it is but the only public networks that fit this bill are wireless ones, like in an airport or coffee shop. Presumably the ISP has a SSL webinterface on their mailserver for this. But, if you know your going into this kind of area then change your password before leaving home, if you must use your pop client. >4) Any network where a computer has been at all compromised. I can insert a keyboard logger that will defeat any encryption you want. And if the ISP is compromised then the likelihood is their mailserver, which is a much softer target, will be compromised long before any network device. And once the attacker has the mailserver, he doesen't need the passwords anyhow. >5) Any ISP with untrustable SysAdmins (I've known this to happen). How is encryption on the password channel to the mailserver, which is admined by these untrustable sysadmins, going to help with -that-? >6) Almost a corrolary to 5) and 3); any ISP with a compromised machine. > if you don't trust your ISP to be competent, you may as well not use their mailserver then. Why would you use it? Email comes in off the Internet unencrypted, if they want to read your mail they can. >You cannot assume that there are not nasty sniffers on your line. >I have seen passwords sniffed out in all kinds of places. > So you figured out how to run a sniffer on a public wireless node. Ted >And with that, I go back into lurking mode. > >gwen. > gamergothgeekgrrl. > http://www.gw3n.com/ > >* martygreene shivvers > why is it so damn cold? > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/199 - Release >Date: 12/13/2005 > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: pine
Hi everyone, Thanks Gwen and Ted for your feedback. I am using an ADSL modem, basically a POTS network terminal. I am thinkng of switching ISP's, registering a domain and setting up my own mail server. The ISP I am using (according to thier 'technical support') does not use any encryption with the POP server and I am able to telnet into the SMTP server on port 25 and have my way with it. I have installed ipgrab so I can see for myself the information transmitted on rl0 and tun0. I also plan to try thunderbird (*sigh* I have to use X), to see if there is any difference between it's connection and pine's Thanks again, caleb. P.S - as for hollywood movies, 'Takedown' - enough said :) -- There is no spoon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: pine
On 2005-12-14 18:37, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On December 14, 2005 12:35 PM, gwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Have you ever seen the output of tcpdump? You see anything on the >> same network as you. So any of the following *likely* situations >> leaves your non-encrypted password open for sniffing: >> >> 1) Wireless access, *any* wireless access. > > Er, WEP anyone? That's hardly enough... http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=41 > Do you really think if this poster is smart enough to figure out how > to turn on SSL on pine that he hasn't already thought of that? Probably, but that's a very valid rhetorical question :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: pine
On 2005-12-15 17:44, caleb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > I am thinkng of switching ISP's, registering a domain and setting up > my own mail server. [...] > The ISP I am using (according to thier 'technical support') does not > use any encryption with the POP server and I am able to telnet into > the SMTP server on port 25 and have my way with it. [...] > I also plan to try thunderbird (*sigh* I have to use X), to see if > there is any difference between it's connection and pine's FWIW, the easiest way, by far, to configure outgoing email access once and for all, for any possible mailer or other program that runs on your machine is to configure Sendmail or install another equally powerful MTA, like Postfix. If you have a static IP address of your own, and a registered domain name (which seems to be the plan, as far as I can tell), this is immensely useful & easy to set up. Then you don't have to worry about picking out the "right" application (Pine or Mutt or Mozilla or Thunderbird or whatever) to match the settings of your ISP, because those are abstracted away by your local mail server. - Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: pine
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 12:21:19PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > The first thing you can do is go out and shoo the crackers > off the telephone pole who are tapped into your phone line > and sniffing your passwords. By the way, is there any relative cheap solution to do this? I mean we can record phone conversation, but how can we decode all this V.90, PPP, IP, TCP out of recorded audio? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: pine
"I am able to telnet into the SMTP server on port 25 and have my way with it" Why, exactly, is this a security problem? You do realize, don't you, that mailservers do not encrypt SMTP mail when they send it to each other. I would be more interested, if I were you, in what banners I got by telnetting into the POP3 and SMTP port. Those should tell you what the ISP is using to host e-mail, obviously if it's Microsoft Exchange I'd run in the opposite direction. Ted >-Original Message- >From: caleb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 10:44 PM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: gwen; RW; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; caleb >Subject: RE: pine > > >Hi everyone, >Thanks Gwen and Ted for your feedback. I am using an ADSL >modem, basically a POTS network terminal. I am thinkng of >switching ISP's, registering a domain and setting up my own mail server. >The ISP I am using (according to thier 'technical support') >does not use >any encryption with the POP server and I am able to telnet into >the SMTP >server on port 25 and have my way with it. I have installed ipgrab so I >can see for myself the information transmitted on rl0 and tun0. I also >plan to try thunderbird (*sigh* I have to use X), to see if >there is any >difference between it's connection and pine's > >Thanks again, > >caleb. > >P.S - as for hollywood movies, 'Takedown' - enough said :) > >-- >There is no spoon > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/200 - Release >Date: 12/14/2005 > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: pine
* caleb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051215 01:39]: >Thanks Gwen and Ted for your feedback. I am using an ADSL > modem, basically a POTS network terminal. I am thinkng of You're welcome, and good luck. I run my own mail server myself, for very similar reasons. > P.S - as for hollywood movies, 'Takedown' - enough said :) Response: Freedom Downtime. :) gwen. gamergothgeekgrrl. http://www.gw3n.com/ right now i'm thinking of going to asheville and being an old washed +up ex-activist for the rest of my days ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: pine
* Igor Robul ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051215 10:50]: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 12:21:19PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > The first thing you can do is go out and shoo the crackers > > off the telephone pole who are tapped into your phone line > > and sniffing your passwords. > By the way, is there any relative cheap solution to do this? > I mean we can record phone conversation, but how can we decode all this > V.90, PPP, IP, TCP out of recorded audio? This is what modems are for. :) gwen. gamergothgeekgrrl. http://www.gw3n.com/ * martygreene shivvers why is it so damn cold? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Pine alternative?
We have been using pine for years on our Sun Solaris box. We are in the process of moving to FreeBSD. I installed Pine from an updated ports collection and received a message about pine not being very secure. Is anyone using an alternative to pine that can also read pine's folders and addresses? I need it to be compatible as we still have many users with lots of data in pine. Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Updating Pico & Pine
On a FreeBSD 4.3R major production system. Recommended steps to upgrade *without* 'portupgrade' and do you see any implications? E.g. address books, config settings, etc. Current version is 4.21. Thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Help with Pine
I am new with Unix and Free BSD. I am trying to use a mail program within free bsd, I figure I should be able to type in pine and have it come up. I loaded a version of pine I saw in the extra packages that came with my distribution disk of free bsd. I am sure it loaded, but when I type in pine it says "pine: not found". Any help is greatly appreciated Thanks Ben ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine alternative?
* Sean Murphy [2005-08-25 08:47 -0700] > We have been using pine for years on our Sun Solaris box. We are in the > process of moving to FreeBSD. I installed Pine from an updated ports > collection and received a message about pine not being very secure. Is > anyone using an alternative to pine that can also read pine's folders and > addresses? I need it to be compatible as we still have many users with lots > of data in pine. I guess mutt would do. But be aware that the notice is warning you about Pine's previous security history. All known security holes are fixed, and if you plan on keeping your system up-to-date (by e.g keeping track of portaudit etc), you should be alright. Svein Halvor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine alternative?
We have been using pine for years on our Sun Solaris box. We are in the process of moving to FreeBSD. I installed Pine from an updated ports collection and received a message about pine not being very secure. Is anyone using an alternative to pine that can also read pine's folders and addresses? I need it to be compatible as we still have many users with lots of data in pine. Could be wrong, but my understanding was that any issues with Pine weren't an issue if your users had shell access in the first place. That is, one of the problems was if you drop your users right into pine (or via some restricted shell) it's possible for them to drop into a sub shell, etc. from within pine. Could be wrong though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine alternative?
If you plan to use the Maildir format, while it's possible for Pine to support this, it doesn't natively... Mutt does. On Aug 25, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: * Sean Murphy [2005-08-25 08:47 -0700] We have been using pine for years on our Sun Solaris box. We are in the process of moving to FreeBSD. I installed Pine from an updated ports collection and received a message about pine not being very secure. Is anyone using an alternative to pine that can also read pine's folders and addresses? I need it to be compatible as we still have many users with lots of data in pine. I guess mutt would do. But be aware that the notice is warning you about Pine's previous security history. All known security holes are fixed, and if you plan on keeping your system up-to-date (by e.g keeping track of portaudit etc), you should be alright. Svein Halvor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine alternative?
Try using Cone. On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 12:25 -0500, Joe Auty wrote: > If you plan to use the Maildir format, while it's possible for Pine > to support this, it doesn't natively... Mutt does. > > On Aug 25, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote: > > > > > * Sean Murphy [2005-08-25 08:47 -0700] > > > >> We have been using pine for years on our Sun Solaris box. We are > >> in the > >> process of moving to FreeBSD. I installed Pine from an updated > >> ports > >> collection and received a message about pine not being very > >> secure. Is > >> anyone using an alternative to pine that can also read pine's > >> folders and > >> addresses? I need it to be compatible as we still have many > >> users with lots > >> of data in pine. > >> > > > > > > I guess mutt would do. But be aware that the notice is warning you > > about > > Pine's previous security history. All known security holes are > > fixed, and > > if you plan on keeping your system up-to-date (by e.g keeping track of > > portaudit etc), you should be alright. > > > > > > Svein Halvor > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Pine - Duplicate Messages
Periodically I get duplicated messages in email folders I have defined and have rules set up for. For an example, I am subscribed to the Postfix email list. I have a rule that is set as such: Recip pattern = postfix-users ... (*) Move (Enter folder name(s) in primary collection, or use ^T) Folder List = /home/d.hill/mail/Postfix-Users I am using Pine version: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ pine -version Pine 4.64 built Thu May 24 01:51:36 UTC 2007 on example.com I am also using Fetchmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ fetchmail --version This is fetchmail release 6.3.8+RPA+SDPS+SSL+OPIE+NLS. to fetch messages from a remote server. According to http://www.washington.edu/pine the latest version of Pine is 4.64. If I remove ALL rules from Pine, I have absolutely no issues with duplicate messages. I can actually verify the messages are duplicated. I have saved them off into files and used the command. Does anyone know why this would be occurring? I've seen a recent post to the Postfix list about similar issues and responses are pointing to file locking issues. --- _|_ (_| | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Pine and IMAP
I have been using a local pine client in conjunction with IMAP for years without issues. However, recently, it looks like when pine moves mail to the mbox file, it hoses up my ability to use my imap clients. Has something changed so that I cannot use pine as a local client? It looks like I might be able to use pine through IMAP ok, but not like I used to. Any suggestions as to what is causing this problem? Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Pine Corupting Inbox
I think that pine is corrupting my inbox, so that it is unreadable by UW-IMAPD. When using squirrelmail after using pine I see the headers, but squirrelmail is unable to open the e-mails. I switched over to alpine since I do understand that pine is no longer supported. If other people have experienced this it would be nice to have at least a notice when it is installed. I have used pine for almost 10 years without this problem, but maybe this is an incompatability with a newer version of UW-IMAPD. Anyone else having these issues? Thanks, Chris Maness (909) 223-9179 http://www.chrismaness.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
fetchmail/pine nonsense - newbie
hello, i'm having trouble accessing my mail as 'user'. pine seems to have created a mail folder in /home/user/mail (sent mail goes there) yet fetchmail insists on dumping my stuff in /var/mail. when i try to access /var/mail/user i get a 'invalid remote specification'? which one of these 2 do i configure to rectify the situation. tried changing my inbox in pine to either of the above with the same error message. read up a little on the .mailrc file but i just want to run fetchmail manually to access my mail once in a while. thanks ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Pine and finding packages
Ok, I got a two part question. 1. I've got pine 4.44 installed. Is there any hot fixes, updates, or other upgrades that I need to make or is this the most current version? 2. How do you find out what packages you have installed on a machine? I thought "packages" was the command but it won't work. Thanks!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Updating Pico & Pine
man pkg_version man pkg_info man pkg_delete "pkg_version -c > file" will produce a file containing a script with the necessary instructions. You must edit this script and then run as root. "pkg_info -rR -x pine" will tell you what packages require and are required by pine. Use pkg_delete and re-install. On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Danny wrote: > On a FreeBSD 4.3R major production system. Recommended steps to > upgrade *without* 'portupgrade' and do you see any implications? E.g. > address books, config settings, etc. > > Current version is 4.21. > > Thank you. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Updating Pico & Pine
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Danny wrote: > On a FreeBSD 4.3R major production system. Recommended steps to > upgrade *without* 'portupgrade' and do you see any implications? E.g. > address books, config settings, etc. > > Current version is 4.21. I just upgraded to 4.51. My dependencies were all messed up, so I pkg_deleted cclient and the old pine, used pkgdb -F to fix, and then installed the new Pine from ports. No problems with old mail or settings, at least that I've noticed. (Why don't you want to use portupgrade?) -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Updating Pico & Pine
> From: "Danny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:59 AM > Subject: Updating Pico & Pine > > Danny wrote: > > On a FreeBSD 4.3R major production system. Recommended steps to > upgrade *without* 'portupgrade' and do you see any implications? >E.g. address books, config settings, etc. > > Current version is 4.21. > > Thank you. Heh, the upgrade to 'pico' is: #cd /usr/ports/editors/nano #make install clean #alias pico nano :-) KDK To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Updating Pico & Pine
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: > #alias pico nano alias pico nano -Rimpwz for the full effect. If it'd scroll the whole screen for long lines, it'd be a nearly perfect simple editor. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Pine is being slow
I've noticed lately that when doing mail or many other things in Pine as of late, it's been very slow. This includes moving between screens, into and out of messages, marking and deleting messages, closing the program, etc. Not sure if this is related to my SSH sessions or not because I've noticed periodical lag with those too. Just not to the degree I see in Pine. The box is running 95-98% idle, so I know it's not maxed out or under load. It's just so weird to see it act this way. Anyone ever encounter anything like this? What can I do to fix this? Much apreciated. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Help with Pine
[Please keep messages on the list] On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 03:39:33PM -0400, Benjamin Gonzalez wrote: > Thanks for your help but unfortunately it still says not found. > > "/usr/local/bin/pine: not found" > > I appreciate the trouble you took in responding, if you can offer any > further advice it is appreciated. Try ls -d /var/db/pkg/pine*; if that says no such file or directory, no match, or anything along those lines, you did not install Pine. If you have the ports tree and an Internet connection, cd /usr/ports/mail/pine && make install. HTH, -- Josh > > Thanks > > Ben. > > On 7/18/03 3:21 PM, "Joshua Oreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 03:15:56PM -0400, Benjamin Gonzalez wrote: > >> I am new with Unix and Free BSD. I am trying to use a mail program within > >> free bsd, I figure I should be able to type in pine and have it come up. I > >> loaded a version of pine I saw in the extra packages that came with my > >> distribution disk of free bsd. I am sure it loaded, but when I type in pine > >> it says "pine: not found". Any help is greatly appreciated > > > > try /usr/local/bin/pine -- maybe /usr/local/bin is not in your $PATH > > > > -- Josh > > > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Ben > >> > >> ___ > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Help with Pine
pine should live in /usr/local/bin Try typing: >whereis pine If it's installed, try typing in the entire path. If you are using the C shell be sure to type "rehash" on the command line. By the way, if you just type "mail" you get Berkeley mail, which is built into FreeBSD. Tim Kellers CPE/NJIT On Friday 18 July 2003 03:15 pm, Benjamin Gonzalez wrote: > I am new with Unix and Free BSD. I am trying to use a mail program within > free bsd, I figure I should be able to type in pine and have it come up. I > loaded a version of pine I saw in the extra packages that came with my > distribution disk of free bsd. I am sure it loaded, but when I type in > pine it says "pine: not found". Any help is greatly appreciated > > Thanks > > Ben > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Help with Pine
Benjamin Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am new with Unix and Free BSD. I am trying to use a mail program within > free bsd, I figure I should be able to type in pine and have it come up. I > loaded a version of pine I saw in the extra packages that came with my > distribution disk of free bsd. I am sure it loaded, but when I type in pine > it says "pine: not found". Any help is greatly appreciated If you are using tcsh, and you just installed pine, you need to run 'rehash' to get pine in tcsh's lookup table. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine - Duplicate Messages
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:38:59 + (UTC) Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Periodically I get duplicated messages in email folders I have > defined and have rules set up for. > ... > If I remove ALL rules from Pine, I have absolutely no issues with > duplicate messages. Are they perhaps deleted messages? when a pine rule moves a message, it copies it, marks the original as deleted and then hides it for the rest of the session. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine - Duplicate Messages
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 at 18:24 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] confabulated: On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:38:59 + (UTC) Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Periodically I get duplicated messages in email folders I have defined and have rules set up for. ... If I remove ALL rules from Pine, I have absolutely no issues with duplicate messages. Are they perhaps deleted messages? when a pine rule moves a message, it copies it, marks the original as deleted and then hides it for the rest of the session. Nope. This happens with new messages that are coming in. It is hard to track down as it does not happen that frequently. It happened twice today. Before that, it was two days ago. I just went and subscribed to the pine-info discussion list and am going to so some searching. I just thought someone may have a quick solution. I will continue my quest where it should be. --- _|_ (_| | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine - Duplicate Messages
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:36:48 + (UTC) Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 at 18:24 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > confabulated: > > > On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:38:59 + (UTC) > > Duane Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> Periodically I get duplicated messages in email folders I have > >> defined and have rules set up for. > >> ... > >> If I remove ALL rules from Pine, I have absolutely no issues with > >> duplicate messages. > > > > Are they perhaps deleted messages? when a pine rule moves a > > message, it copies it, marks the original as deleted and then hides > > it for the rest of the session. > > Nope. This happens with new messages that are coming in. What I was describing applies to any email moved by a rule, including new messages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine and IMAP
Chris Maness wrote: > I have been using a local pine client in conjunction with IMAP for years > without issues. However, recently, it looks like when pine moves mail > to the mbox file, it hoses up my ability to use my imap clients. Has > something changed so that I cannot use pine as a local client? It looks > like I might be able to use pine through IMAP ok, but not like I used to. > > Any suggestions as to what is causing this problem? Slightly offtopic, but have you tried pine's successor, "alpine"? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Pine and IMAP
On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:39:26 -0700 Chris Maness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been using a local pine client in conjunction with IMAP for > years without issues. However, recently, it looks like when pine > moves mail to the mbox file, it hoses up my ability to use my imap > clients. Has something changed so that I cannot use pine as a local > client? It looks like I might be able to use pine through IMAP ok, > but not like I used to. If you have a file called mbox in your home directory, pine will move the contents of your inbox there and treat the file as your inbox - the point is to avoid having large amounts of mail in a local spool directory. I presume that by "hoses up my ability to use my imap clients" you are just referring to the fact that pine has moved the mail offline. If you move the mail out of your pine inbox, you can then remove the empty file. Pine doesn't create this file by default, it was probably put there by another client - I have seen mutt do this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine and IMAP
I have been using a local pine client in conjunction with IMAP for years without issues. However, recently, it looks like when pine moves mail to the mbox file, it hoses up my ability to use my imap clients. Has something changed so that I cannot use pine as a local client? It looks like I might be able to use pine through IMAP ok, but not like I used to. If you have a file called mbox in your home directory, pine will move the contents of your inbox there and treat the file as your inbox - the point is to avoid having large amounts of mail in a local spool directory. I presume that by "hoses up my ability to use my imap clients" you are just referring to the fact that pine has moved the mail offline. If you move the mail out of your pine inbox, you can then remove the empty file. Pine doesn't create this file by default, it was probably put there by another client - I have seen mutt do this. Yep, the old UNIX mail client generated the box years ago. The IMAP daemon also recognizes this file as the inbox once it is created. However, now it serves the index, but when I try to open one of the e-mail with an IMAP client it chokes out. I have stopped using pine as a "movemail" type of client and set it up to do IMAP too. However, as you mention, it leaves the inbox on the spool (I don't like this for obvious reasons). I am just wondering what changed to cause me to not be able to use pine in this manor any longer. Thanks, Chris Maness ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine Corupting Inbox
On Apr 21, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Chris Maness wrote: I think that pine is corrupting my inbox, so that it is unreadable by UW-IMAPD. When using squirrelmail after using pine I see the headers, but squirrelmail is unable to open the e-mails. When you read your mail with (al)pine with it picking up mail directly from /var/spool/mail, (al)pine will move the mail from /var/spool/mail into mailbox folders in your home directory. Now normally, this puts the mail in a place where it can still be picked up by uw-imap server. Indeed, under default configurations the uw-imap server will perform pretty much the same action when it gets new mail out of /var/spool/mail. So when everything is working right, even reading the mail locally with pine shouldn't mess things up as they have for you. I switched over to alpine since I do understand that pine is no longer supported. If other people have experienced this it would be nice to have at least a notice when it is installed. I have used pine for almost 10 years without this problem, but maybe this is an incompatability with a newer version of UW-IMAPD. Here is what I would do to start diagnosing my first guess at the problem: (1) Set up (or use) a clean vanilla user account, say fred. (2) Send fred mail. (3) log in as fred and have fred read mail with pine, with as close to a default configuration as possible. (4) See if fred can see his mail via squirrelmail. If so (5) Look around ~/fred to find where pine put the mail. (6) Compare the mail file locations for ~/fred and for you. (7) If there are difference (which is what I'm expecting), then look through your .pinerc Post back a report about how those steps go. If things break at step 4, then still do step (5) and report that back here. Good luck. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine Corupting Inbox
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: On Apr 21, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Chris Maness wrote: I think that pine is corrupting my inbox, so that it is unreadable by UW-IMAPD. When using squirrelmail after using pine I see the headers, but squirrelmail is unable to open the e-mails. When you read your mail with (al)pine with it picking up mail directly from /var/spool/mail, (al)pine will move the mail from /var/spool/mail into mailbox folders in your home directory. Now normally, this puts the mail in a place where it can still be picked up by uw-imap server. Indeed, under default configurations the uw-imap server will perform pretty much the same action when it gets new mail out of /var/spool/mail. So when everything is working right, even reading the mail locally with pine shouldn't mess things up as they have for you. I switched over to alpine since I do understand that pine is no longer supported. If other people have experienced this it would be nice to have at least a notice when it is installed. I have used pine for almost 10 years without this problem, but maybe this is an incompatability with a newer version of UW-IMAPD. Here is what I would do to start diagnosing my first guess at the problem: (1) Set up (or use) a clean vanilla user account, say fred. (2) Send fred mail. (3) log in as fred and have fred read mail with pine, with as close to a default configuration as possible. (4) See if fred can see his mail via squirrelmail. If so (5) Look around ~/fred to find where pine put the mail. (6) Compare the mail file locations for ~/fred and for you. (7) If there are difference (which is what I'm expecting), then look through your .pinerc Post back a report about how those steps go. If things break at step 4, then still do step (5) and report that back here. Good luck. Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ I'll check it out. Alpine is doing the same thing. It worlks fine for a bit, an then no imap clients can access the mail. Only alpine can read the spool. I am not having any problems whith other users, I will have to try to test the spool with a fresh user like you suggested. I might use aliases to send mail to this account as well. Chris Maness (909) 223-9179 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine Corupting Inbox
On Apr 26, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Chris Maness wrote: I am not having any problems whith other users, Then my suspicion grows stronger that something in your own particular pine configuration is putting your mail in a place where imapd can't see it. So in addition to what I've suggested, have you looked for any errors logged by imapd in your system logs? Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine Corupting Inbox
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: On Apr 26, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Chris Maness wrote: I am not having any problems whith other users, Then my suspicion grows stronger that something in your own particular pine configuration is putting your mail in a place where imapd can't see it. So in addition to what I've suggested, have you looked for any errors logged by imapd in your system logs? Cheers, -j -- Jeffrey Goldberghttp://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ No, it is leaving it on the spool. Squirrel mail can read the headers, but it cannot open the mail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: fetchmail/pine nonsense - newbie
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> hello,
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> i'm having trouble accessing my mail as 'user'.
When you go into pine's setup interface, what value do you have set for
inbox-path? Does it point to /var/mail/{user}? Is there actually any
mail in /var/mail/{user}?
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Re: Pine and finding packages
On Saturday 13 July 2002 11:29 pm, Steven Lake wrote: | Ok, I got a two part question. | | 1. I've got pine 4.44 installed. Is there any hot fixes, | updates, or other upgrades that I need to make or is this the most current | version? You can cruise over to the freeBSD site and see what the latest port is. The version number is in the Makefile, though there's probably some easier way to get this information as well. | | 2. How do you find out what packages you have installed on a | machine? I thought "packages" was the command but it won't work. pkg_info -a | | Thanks!! | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Pine and finding packages
> You can cruise over to the freeBSD site and see what the latest port is. The > version number is in the Makefile, though there's probably some easier way to > get this information as well. Yeah, I have 4.44 and I saw that the makefile had 4.44 already so I wanted to be doubly sure that there weren't any updates that I didn't know about. :) Otherwise if I had seen a higher version number in the makefile I would have upgraded it already. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Pine is being slow
On 2002-11-26 14:54, Steven Lake wrote: > I've noticed lately that when doing mail or many other things in > Pine as of late, it's been very slow. This includes moving between > screens, into and out of messages, marking and deleting messages, > closing the program, etc. > > Not sure if this is related to my SSH sessions or not because I've > noticed periodical lag with those too. Just not to the degree I see > in Pine. The box is running 95-98% idle, so I know it's not maxed > out or under load. It's just so weird to see it act this way. > Anyone ever encounter anything like this? What can I do to fix > this? Much apreciated. Thanks. It's probably something unrelated to Pine. I regularly use pine to read a mailbox that contains more than 12,000 messages and tag, limit, or view some of them. It's not that the load is insignificant, but even with the following: last pid: 38479; load averages: 1.99, 1.42, 1.03 up 0+02:59:24 02:08:40 54 processes: 3 running, 51 sleeping CPU states: 36.2% user, 0.0% nice, 60.3% system, 3.5% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 52M Active, 347M Inact, 77M Wired, 22M Cache, 60M Buf, 992K Free Swap: 1000M Total, 26M Used, 974M Free, 2% Inuse It takes less than 20 seconds wall clock time for pine to open and sort the huge mailbox. I'm using pine-4.44 on FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT, btw. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Mutt and Filters [pine & procmail]
On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 07:58:08PM -0500, Bryan Cassidy wrote: > > OK. I am going to try this one last time. I really want to keep using > > Mutt because it's small, fast and I like console based apps anyways. I > > am new at this stuff ok. I have asked a couple places on the net many > > times in the last 2 weeks and still can't get it to work. I am > > starting over. I want Mutt to Filter out my e-mails into groups. > That particular part is fairly easy. If you don't mind, I'll send you to > my mutt page at http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/mutt.html which explains >about > using Procmail. Personally, I think it's a pretty clear explanation of > what you'd have to do to get it working. I haven't used mutt before, but I have used procmail for many many years. There are many "recipes" (incremental filtering rules) available on the Internet. Procmail works on a per-incoming-email basis. Another option is to use a MUA (emailer) such as Pine which, at least as of version 4.33, allows the user to process an inbox or other folder in bulk. That is, when the user goes to read the inbox, the messages are filtered all at once (simpler but more cpu-intensive and takes more time). > I don't know, however, how to get it to open so that > it opens to FreeBSD. However, for example--I have it set so that if I > open it, I can see my various mailboxes, and can then arrow down (or > pick a number, as they're numbered in sequence) to open that particular > box. > > There's also Xbuffy (the mutt page I gave above gives a link to it) > which will, when in X, show you how many messages are in each box. In > console mode, it just shows you the size--for example, my > In-bsdquestions, with 6 messages shows a size of 22936, nylug with two > messages shows a size of 12345 (I'm not making that one up.) :0 Check out the "frm" command which is part of elm 2.5 -- the man page begins with this: NAME frm,nfrm - list from and subject of selected messages in mailbox or folder SYNOPSIS frm [-hMnQqStv] [-s status] [folder | username] ... nfrm [-hnQqStv] [-s status] [folder | username] ... DESCRIPTION Frm outputs one line per message of the form: from [subject] where from is the name of the person the message is from, and subject is the subject of the message, if present. If the message is from you, the from portion will read ``To user'', where `user' is the user the message was sent to. This happens when you receive a copy of a letter you sent. > After a little while, you get pretty good at judging from that how many > (approximately) messages you have. > > That answers all but the issue of having it open to the bsdquestions > mailbox, but it would only be two or three more keystrokes--when it > opens I hit 11 for the box and then one or two enters to open it. PINE (at least as of version 4.33) lets you set an option (hit 'm' for main menu, then 's' setup then 'c' config then 'w' for whereis then type the word "initial" to find "initial-keystroke-list." Mine does 'i /n ^w /n ^v' or "go to inbox, whereis, last line" (rather than open PINE to the main menu OR to message #1, oldest). > HTH a little > Scott > > PGP keyID EB3467D6 > ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 D575 EB34 67D6 ) > gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 > Buffy: Okay, that was too close for comfort. Not that slaying is ever comfy, but... >you know what I mean. Buffy's cute. =) -- Peter Leftwich President & Founder Video2Video Services Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA +1-413-403-9555 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Help with pine mail reader ... two quickies
Hi, Two config options I cannot seem to find in pine, and wonder if they exist ... if you know what they are: 1. Is there a way to tell pine to QUIT asking me if I want to "save space by deleting" previous months sent-mail folders ? No, I don't. Ever. How can I get it to quit asking me ? 2. Is there a way to make pine auto-create the new months sent-mail folder on the first of each month ? I have pine up and running for sometimes 60-90 days at a time, which means that it saves three months of sent-mail in the month in which I invoked the program ... because it only seems to make a new sent-mail folder when I restart it. Any way to make it more proactive ? thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Help with pine mail reader ... two quickies
On Mar 9, 2005, at 12:09 AM, Joe Schmoe wrote: Two config options I cannot seem to find in pine, and wonder if they exist ... if you know what they are: See the resources at: http://www.washington.edu/pine ...particularly the Pine-Info list. Discussing problems or reporting bugs with pine on a FreeBSD mailing list is going to be less effective than contacting the maintainers of pine more directly. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine (Tony Shadwick) & giving in to temptation(s)
hello, > I'm getting more and more tempted to start up a wiki for newbies on good > package management practices and port management. get on with that, wouldya? > The handbook seems to deal well with these things once you know lots of ways to get yourself into lots of deep water, yes. and a large disparity between beginners and experts. > Granted, an argument could be made that you should read the handbook cover > to cover before you begin. ;) Who actually DOES that though? there are large portions of the handbook that demonstrate vividly just how profound my lack of understanding remains, despite repeated attempts. i'd definitely welcome an intermediate level documentation. and a convenient means to confirm a) accuracy and b) timeliness, both of which seem non-trivial to me, would also help. regards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Pine (Tony Shadwick) & giving in to temptation(s)
On Friday 20 May 2005 11:09, the author David Armour contributed to the dialogue on Re: Pine (Tony Shadwick) & giving in to temptation(s): & hello, & & > I'm getting more and more tempted to start up a wiki for newbies on good & > package management practices and port management. & & get on with that, wouldya? & & > The handbook seems to deal well with these things once you know & & lots of ways to get yourself into lots of deep water, yes. and a large & disparity between beginners and experts. I believe the challenge faced by writers of additional manuals for unix systems is how to bridge the very wide gap between clean slate approach for newbies and the assumed minimum knowledge level standards which prevail in existing documentation. My suggestion would be to build upon what we already have and: 1. create a project which extends existing man pages by: (a) Using an XML implementation of man pages to facilitate searches for meaning rather than just words. (b) Reviewing each man page and producing a clean slate version for each page. (c) Create links in the man pages to provide a clean slate presentation of concepts which are relevant to the contents of the page. Each such link (and sub links) would need to be organized so the reader could return to the start or any intermediate page s/he has travelled at any time . This could perhaps be achieved by a backward tracking module written in java. (d) Write a clean slate introduction manual which puts the whole within a conceptual framework and links to expanded man page system. (e) provide a framework with a user notes sytem such as is already provided by some X-windows manual implementations. 2. If you want to use a clean slate approach its definition would pose a challenge. I would offer a draft guideline in the following terms: "The objective is to enable any user to enter any page with zero knowledge and as a result of studying the page, and any links s/he has the opportunity of both (i) understanding the material and (ii) placing the material in context (ii) putting the knowledge gained into practice" 3. The latter requirement means that any smart manual would be rich in application examples and illustrate (i) circumstances in which the commmand is applicable (ii) identify similar circumstances for which the command is not appropriate (iii) identify appropriate alternative commands for those circumstances. & & > Granted, an argument could be made that you should read the handbook cover & > to cover before you begin. ;) Who actually DOES that though? & & there are large portions of the handbook that demonstrate vividly just how & profound my lack of understanding remains, despite repeated attempts. i'd & definitely welcome an intermediate level documentation. and a convenient & means to confirm a) accuracy and b) timeliness, both of which seem & non-trivial to me, would also help. & & regards. & ___ & freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list & http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions & To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" & -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing May bound for Europe via Panama Canal. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Your terminal, of type "ansi", is lacking functions needed torun pine.
DanB - On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, DanB wrote: > Running pine. > Your terminal, of type "ansi", is lacking functions needed to run pine. > I get this message running telnet on windows box. Is there anyway to > make it work other than using > a program like putty? Telnet is enough of a security problem that many *NIX sysadmins remove it from their services. puTTY using SSH is much less of a hazard. Naturally puTTY _will_ do telnet sessions (with their same security problems). Is that the usage you wish to avoid? What problems does it cause you? John Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Your terminal, of type "ansi", is lacking functions needed torun pine.
In the last episode (Aug 13), DanB said: > Running pine. > Your terminal, of type "ansi", is lacking functions needed to run pine. > I get this message running telnet on windows box. Is there anyway to > make it work other than using > a program like putty? Windows telnet should be using the "vt100" terminal type, I believe. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Your terminal, of type "ansi", is lacking functions needed to run pine.
Running pine. Your terminal, of type "ansi", is lacking functions needed to run pine. I get this message running telnet on windows box. Is there anyway to make it work other than using a program like putty? Dan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
