Re: Can't seem to boot from 6.0-RELEASE

2006-03-01 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Alex Mayfield wrote:


Next, Use Load Fail-Safe Defaults and try FreeBSD.

This worked.  It booted fine, I got FreeBSD set up, X set up, some 
programs set up and sound working after going back into the BIOS and 
turning sound and USB and other vital stuff back on.  I'm only running 
into a few problems, such as my BIOS complaining every time I run the 
bootloader about the MBR changing, and the fact that I have to use ESC 
instead of ALT to change windows in irssi.  But nothing I can't figure 
out on my own.  Thank you all for your help.


Glad you got there.  Re: MBR.  Most BIOSes have some option about boot 
block virus protection which could cause what you describe.


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Re: Can't seem to boot from 6.0-RELEASE

2006-02-28 Thread Alex Mayfield

Nikolas Britton wrote:

On 2/24/06, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Alex Mayfield wrote:


I have tried both the 6.1 and 5.4 CD's, both of them bombing at the
exact same point the 6.0 boot failed.  I'll try 5.5 sometime tomorrow,
though I kinda doubt it would make a difference.  Is there anything
else I can try?

If 6.1 and 5.4 fail then it seems really likely that 5.5 will fail too.
In your shoes I would start changing BIOS options one at a time -
anything that might have an effect like ACPI, memory holes, making sure
plug 'n' play is off.  I'm no expert on that kind of thing.  If no-one
here has any better ideas then you could also try re-posting on the
freebsd-hardware list and see if anyone there can help.  You could also
check that there is no newer BIOS for the mobo.



Your mainboard has two primary models and also goes by other names:
755FXK8AA-8EKRS: a.k.a. K8S755FXA-8EKRS
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/productsDownload_motherboard2.cfm?pMotherboard=755FXK8AA-8EKRS%3Cbr%3EAlso%20known%20as%20K8S755FXA-8EKRS

755FXK8AA-ERS: a.k.a. K8S755FXA-6ELRS, a.k.a K8S755FXA-ERS
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/productsDownload_motherboard2.cfm?pMotherboard=755FXK8AA-ERS%3Cbr%3EAlso%20known%20as%20K8S755FXA-6ELRS%3Cbr%3EAlso%20known%20as%20K8S755FXA-ERS

Flash the BIOS with the newest version and try FreeBSD.



I had the latest version.  However...



Next, Use Load Fail-Safe Defaults and try FreeBSD.



This worked.  It booted fine, I got FreeBSD set up, X set up, some 
programs set up and sound working after going back into the BIOS and 
turning sound and USB and other vital stuff back on.  I'm only running 
into a few problems, such as my BIOS complaining every time I run the 
bootloader about the MBR changing, and the fact that I have to use ESC 
instead of ALT to change windows in irssi.  But nothing I can't figure 
out on my own.  Thank you all for your help.


-Alex

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Re: Can't seem to boot from 6.0-RELEASE

2006-02-24 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Alex Mayfield wrote:

I have tried both the 6.1 and 5.4 CD's, both of them bombing at the 
exact same point the 6.0 boot failed.  I'll try 5.5 sometime tomorrow, 
though I kinda doubt it would make a difference.  Is there anything 
else I can try?


If 6.1 and 5.4 fail then it seems really likely that 5.5 will fail too.  
In your shoes I would start changing BIOS options one at a time - 
anything that might have an effect like ACPI, memory holes, making sure 
plug 'n' play is off.  I'm no expert on that kind of thing.  If no-one 
here has any better ideas then you could also try re-posting on the 
freebsd-hardware list and see if anyone there can help.  You could also 
check that there is no newer BIOS for the mobo.


hth,

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Re: Can't seem to boot from 6.0-RELEASE

2006-02-24 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 2/24/06, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alex Mayfield wrote:

  I have tried both the 6.1 and 5.4 CD's, both of them bombing at the
  exact same point the 6.0 boot failed.  I'll try 5.5 sometime tomorrow,
  though I kinda doubt it would make a difference.  Is there anything
  else I can try?

 If 6.1 and 5.4 fail then it seems really likely that 5.5 will fail too.
 In your shoes I would start changing BIOS options one at a time -
 anything that might have an effect like ACPI, memory holes, making sure
 plug 'n' play is off.  I'm no expert on that kind of thing.  If no-one
 here has any better ideas then you could also try re-posting on the
 freebsd-hardware list and see if anyone there can help.  You could also
 check that there is no newer BIOS for the mobo.


Your mainboard has two primary models and also goes by other names:
755FXK8AA-8EKRS: a.k.a. K8S755FXA-8EKRS
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/productsDownload_motherboard2.cfm?pMotherboard=755FXK8AA-8EKRS%3Cbr%3EAlso%20known%20as%20K8S755FXA-8EKRS

755FXK8AA-ERS: a.k.a. K8S755FXA-6ELRS, a.k.a K8S755FXA-ERS
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/productsDownload_motherboard2.cfm?pMotherboard=755FXK8AA-ERS%3Cbr%3EAlso%20known%20as%20K8S755FXA-6ELRS%3Cbr%3EAlso%20known%20as%20K8S755FXA-ERS

Flash the BIOS with the newest version and try FreeBSD.

Next, Use Load Fail-Safe Defaults and try FreeBSD.

If those don't work change these settings and try again:
Advanced BIOS Features Menu:
Gate A20 Option = Normal
APIC Mode = Disabled
MPS Version Control For OS = Try a Diffrent Setting
Video BIOS Shadow = Disabled

SIS OnChip PCI Device Menu:
SIS USB Controller = Disabled
SIS AC97 Audio = Disabled
SIS S/W Modem = Disabled
SIS Serial ATA Controller = Disabled

Onboard SuperIO Device Menu:
Lan Controller = Disabled
Onboard FDC Controller = Disabled
Onboard Serial Port 1/2 = Disabled
Onboard Parallel Port = Disabled

Power Management Setup Menu:
ACPI function = Disabled

PnP/PCI Configurations Menu:
Reset Configuration Data = Enabled
---
Your best bets are:
APIC Mode = Disabled
ACPI function = Disabled
And Disable all the Hardware listed above

You should be booting FreeBSD with verbose output too


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Re: Can't seem to boot from 6.0-RELEASE

2006-02-23 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 2/22/06, Alex Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm rather new to FreeBSD, and have been wanting to try it out.  However,
 I am unable to boot from either the i386 6.0-RELEASE bootonly or the i386
 6.0-RELEASE disc 1 CD.  I'm running an Athlon 64 3000+ on a WinFast
 755FXK8AA motherboard (Socket 939, SiS 755 North Bridge, SiS 964 South
 Bridge).  The boot CD dies right after ago0: figures out my SiS 755 with:

 panic: pmap_mapdev: Couldn't alloc kernel virtual memory.

 Having searched for my problem before posting, I found that another
 individual has had a similar problem to mine:

 http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20060122170123.I76421

 I followed his initiative and tried the boot option that didn't use ACPI.
 No dice.  I also checked the MD5 of both CD's and they checked out fine.
 Finally, I tried to boot the amd64 version of FreeBSD, and this time it
 booted just fine and I got to an installation screen.  However, given the
 fact that there are no nvidia drivers for the 64 bit version, and certain
 programs being unavalable for amd64, I'd really just prefer to use the
 i386 version instead.


Your not using the right install CDs. You have an AMD 64-Bit chip so
you can't (AFAIK) use the I386 Release. Maybe there is a setting in
the BIOS for I386 compat, I have no experience with AMD's 64-Bit chips
so this is just a guess. Or try disabling ACPI and everything else in
the BIOS etc... That's the price you pay for being an early adopter,
you don't need nvidia gfx for an Opteron server.

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-amd64/6.1/

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Re: Can't seem to boot from 6.0-RELEASE

2006-02-23 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Nikolas Britton wrote:


Your not using the right install CDs. You have an AMD 64-Bit chip so
you can't (AFAIK) use the I386 Release. Maybe there is a setting in
the BIOS for I386 compat, I have no experience with AMD's 64-Bit chips
so this is just a guess. Or try disabling ACPI and everything else in
the BIOS etc... That's the price you pay for being an early adopter,
you don't need nvidia gfx for an Opteron server.
 

This is not correct.  An i386 version of FreeBSD runs just dandy on 
64-bit Athlons (or 64 bit Intel for that matter) even if this release is 
failing on this specific system.  All current 64-bit PC processors are 
backwards compatible with i386.


I would try the i386 6.1 PRERELEASE CD, the 5.4 RELEASE and the 5.5 
PRERELEASE in order and see if any of them worked.  Or try limiting your 
google by including the sis 754 and see if finds any help.  There are 
mentions of 754 problems being fixed in 6-STABLE but I didn't look 
closely enough to know if they would help you.


--Alex

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Re: Can't seem to boot from 6.0-RELEASE

2006-02-23 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 2/23/06, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nikolas Britton wrote:

 Your not using the right install CDs. You have an AMD 64-Bit chip so
 you can't (AFAIK) use the I386 Release. Maybe there is a setting in
 the BIOS for I386 compat, I have no experience with AMD's 64-Bit chips
 so this is just a guess. Or try disabling ACPI and everything else in
 the BIOS etc... That's the price you pay for being an early adopter,
 you don't need nvidia gfx for an Opteron server.
 
 
 This is not correct.  An i386 version of FreeBSD runs just dandy on
 64-bit Athlons (or 64 bit Intel for that matter) even if this release is
 failing on this specific system.  All current 64-bit PC processors are
 backwards compatible with i386.

 I would try the i386 6.1 PRERELEASE CD, the 5.4 RELEASE and the 5.5
 PRERELEASE in order and see if any of them worked.  Or try limiting your
 google by including the sis 754 and see if finds any help.  There are
 mentions of 754 problems being fixed in 6-STABLE but I didn't look
 closely enough to know if they would help you.


I see, do the Intel EMT-64 chips use the amd64 release too? And what
did he mean by certain programs being unavalable for amd64, what are
the major ones?

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Re: Can't seem to boot from 6.0-RELEASE

2006-02-23 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Nikolas Britton wrote:


I see, do the Intel EMT-64 chips use the amd64 release too? And what
did he mean by certain programs being unavalable for amd64, what are
the major ones?
 

There seems to be an IA-64 which I guess is Intel.  Only buy AMD chips 
myself, so I'm a bit hazy on that.  I'm sure freebsd.org has the answer 
somewhere :-)


Major programs include java, and I think, Linux 32-bit compatibility.  
You can see a complete list of ports which fail to build at 
http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/ e.g. the ones not building under 5-STABLE 
for AMD64 are in 
http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/amd64-5-failure.html.  Of course, 
some of those packages just fail to build anywhere!  But lack of java 
and nvidia are big stumblers for many who might otherwise try 64-bit on 
a desktop.  For a pure server, given the time, I'd certainly experiment 
with 64-bit.  Unfortunately, all my pure servers run Linux - not 
through choice :-(


You described 64-bit chips as bleeding edge, but I really don't think 
they are any more.  Dual cores may be bleeding edge and SLI may be 
bleeding edge, but bog standard 64-bit processors running a 32-bit OS 
are dead common and usually seem to work.  No doubt there are some 
chipsets/motherboards that are worse than others, but that's the same 
for any architecture.  Buying anything to run FreeBSD well has always 
been a matter of checking the hardware lists carefully and backing that 
up with google.  8 months ago I had no trouble finding an AMD 939 64 bit 
motherboard that would work well with FreeBSD.


--Alex

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Re: Can't seem to boot from 6.0-RELEASE

2006-02-23 Thread Alex Mayfield

Alex Zbyslaw wrote:

Nikolas Britton wrote:


Your not using the right install CDs. You have an AMD 64-Bit chip so
you can't (AFAIK) use the I386 Release. Maybe there is a setting in
the BIOS for I386 compat, I have no experience with AMD's 64-Bit chips
so this is just a guess. Or try disabling ACPI and everything else in
the BIOS etc... That's the price you pay for being an early adopter,
you don't need nvidia gfx for an Opteron server.
 

This is not correct.  An i386 version of FreeBSD runs just dandy on 
64-bit Athlons (or 64 bit Intel for that matter) even if this release is 
failing on this specific system.  All current 64-bit PC processors are 
backwards compatible with i386.


I would try the i386 6.1 PRERELEASE CD, the 5.4 RELEASE and the 5.5 
PRERELEASE in order and see if any of them worked.  Or try limiting your 
google by including the sis 754 and see if finds any help.  There are 
mentions of 754 problems being fixed in 6-STABLE but I didn't look 
closely enough to know if they would help you.


--Alex

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I have tried both the 6.1 and 5.4 CD's, both of them bombing at the 
exact same point the 6.0 boot failed.  I'll try 5.5 sometime tomorrow, 
though I kinda doubt it would make a difference.  Is there anything else 
I can try?


-Alex

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