Re: ftp installation

2011-06-13 Thread Dave
On 12 Jun 2011 at 4:32, Bill Tillman wrote:

>
> 
> From: Daniel Feenberg 
> Subject: Re: ftp installation
>
>
> On Sat, 11 Jun 2011, Robert Simmons wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Daniel Feenberg 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I have tried many of the ftp sites enumerated in sysinstall, with
> >> both 7.4-RELEASE and 8.2-RELEASE, and in all cases the installation
> >> proceeds for a few seconds and then hangs, with the last message on
> >> the console always being:
> >>
> >>  DEBUG: Generating /etc/fstab file.
> >>
> ...
> >>
> >> Is there something off about the sysinstall ftp dialog? I don't see
> >> a way to monitor what is happening.
> >
> > Your firewall may be interfering with the connection.  You may want
> > to read the handbook section on FTP installs (the grey box at the
> > bottom of the page):
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-me
> > dia.html
> >
>
> Well, our router has never interfered with ftp transfers done from the
> command line, but switching to the firewall-friendly mode in
> sysinstall does fix the problem.
>
> Thank you
> Daniel Feenberg
> NBER
>
>
> If I recall correctly I had to open up my firewall completely to get
> the ftp installations to work. I use a FreeBSD diskless router running
> IPFW+NATD and the log files are set to max out at 5 so I can't see
> which port is trying to be used which gets blocked. So just for the 10
> minutes or so to do an FTP install I just open the firewall wide and
> allow any to any. Once the install is complete I close the firewall
> again.
>
>

That's why "Passive" (or PASV) mode is included in FTP.  It only ever
makes outgoing connections from a client.  99.9% of all routers/firewalls
will honour that mode with no probems, unless it's been specifically
blocked by an admin type somewhere.

In the F'BSD install/update settings/dialogs etc, always select the
option to use FTP from behind a firewall or router, or "Firewall
Friendly" mode.  That will invoke Passive mode transfers.

It's the one thing I can do reliably with FreeBSD, no need to mess with
router/firewall permissions etc.   That only needs doing if you want to
run a server that is reachable from outside your LAN.  That in turn,
opens a whole oil drum load (i.e. a big can of worms!) of potential
security issues

Take care.

DaveB

PS:  Worth looking at, for a good, if lenghty explanation.
http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html


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Re: ftp installation

2011-06-12 Thread Bill Tillman






From: Daniel Feenberg 
To: Robert Simmons 
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 8:50:48 PM
Subject: Re: ftp installation



On Sat, 11 Jun 2011, Robert Simmons wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Daniel Feenberg  wrote:
>>
>> I have tried many of the ftp sites enumerated in sysinstall, with both
>> 7.4-RELEASE and 8.2-RELEASE, and in all cases the installation proceeds
>> for a few seconds and then hangs, with the last message on the console
>> always being:
>>
>>  DEBUG: Generating /etc/fstab file.
>>
...
>>
>> Is there something off about the sysinstall ftp dialog? I don't see a way to
>> monitor what is happening.
>
> Your firewall may be interfering with the connection.  You may want to
> read the handbook section on FTP installs (the grey box at the bottom
> of the page):
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-media.html
>

Well, our router has never interfered with ftp transfers done from the 
command line, but switching to the firewall-friendly mode in sysinstall
does fix the problem.

Thank you
Daniel Feenberg
NBER


If I recall correctly I had to open up my firewall completely to get the ftp 
installations to work. I use a FreeBSD diskless router running IPFW+NATD and 
the 
log files are set to max out at 5 so I can't see which port is trying to be 
used 
which gets blocked. So just for the 10 minutes or so to do an FTP install I 
just 
open the firewall wide and allow any to any. Once the install is complete I 
close the firewall again.
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Re: ftp installation

2011-06-11 Thread Daniel Feenberg



On Sat, 11 Jun 2011, Robert Simmons wrote:


On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Daniel Feenberg  wrote:


I have tried many of the ftp sites enumerated in sysinstall, with both
7.4-RELEASE and 8.2-RELEASE, and in all cases the installation proceeds
for a few seconds and then hangs, with the last message on the console
always being:

 DEBUG: Generating /etc/fstab file.


...


Is there something off about the sysinstall ftp dialog? I don't see a way to
monitor what is happening.


Your firewall may be interfering with the connection.  You may want to
read the handbook section on FTP installs (the grey box at the bottom
of the page):
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-media.html



Well, our router has never interfered with ftp transfers done from the 
command line, but switching to the firewall-friendly mode in sysinstall

does fix the problem.

Thank you
Daniel Feenberg
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Re: ftp installation

2011-06-11 Thread Robert Simmons
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Daniel Feenberg  wrote:
>
> I have tried many of the ftp sites enumerated in sysinstall, with both
> 7.4-RELEASE and 8.2-RELEASE, and in all cases the installation proceeds
> for a few seconds and then hangs, with the last message on the console
> always being:
>
>  DEBUG: Generating /etc/fstab file.
>
> This happens with several different systems. I believe it is not any
> hardware problem, since I was able to install 7.4 from NFS. (I have
> unrelated problems with 8.2).
>
> If I ftp to any of the mentioned FreeBSD ftp servers under manual control, I
> have no trouble downloading ISO files. The ftp sites tried include
> ftp[34567].freebsd.org and ftp10.us.freebsd.org. We have no firewall or
> proxy regulating outbound connections.
>
> Is there something off about the sysinstall ftp dialog? I don't see a way to
> monitor what is happening.

Your firewall may be interfering with the connection.  You may want to
read the handbook section on FTP installs (the grey box at the bottom
of the page):
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-media.html

You can determine if you are having a firewall problem specific to FTP
by using an HTTP proxy install (if it works, you need to change your
firewall rules).  A convenient list of free and open http proxies is
available here:
http://www.xroxy.com/proxylist.htm

Just narrow the list down to http proxies that are near you (US, I
assume) then arrange them in order of ascending latency (there is a
drop down menu for this).  The top few should work great for you.

I have found that going a step further will ensure using the fastest
proxy.  Just install netselect from the ports collection:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/net/netselect/pkg-descr
http://apenwarr.ca/netselect/
then feed the top 10 proxies from xroxy to netselect and use the one
it selects as fastest.  All of this can be scripted using wget to
scrape the data from xroxy when you need it, since free and open
proxies disappear faster than fart in a fan factory.
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RE: FTP installation problem.

2008-02-17 Thread Da Rock



> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:02:36 +0200
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subject: FTP installation problem.
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I was planning stepping over from Linux to BSD. I trying to install FreeBSD
> using the minimal boot cd over FTP. In the installation menu I select that I
> do not wish to use IPv6, and that I do wish to use DHCP. I sure I have
> selected the correct Network card. Although after this my DHCP settings have
> bin found correctly the installation program reports me that it cannot
> resolve the name of the server (I ve tried more than one)
> 
> I did not find anything special on the second console nor scrolling up with
> scroll lock. My internet connection is working.
> 
> Does anybody have a solution to my problem?
> 
> Thank you,
> Righard
> 
> P.S. is there a way to go to a console during installation to tweak some
> settings like I used doing in Archlinux? Maybe then I can get the connection
> working by hand.
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I have had a similar problem. I believe it depends on the release you are 
installing- some newer ones aren't supported on older EOL mirrors I think. What 
release are you trying?
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Re: FTP installation problem.

2008-02-17 Thread Matthew Seaman
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Righard van Roy wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I was planning stepping over from Linux to BSD. I trying to install FreeBSD
> using the minimal boot cd over FTP. In the installation menu I select that I
> do not wish to use IPv6, and that I do wish to use DHCP. I sure I have
> selected the correct Network card. Although after this my DHCP settings have
> bin found correctly the installation program reports me that it cannot
> resolve the name of the server (I ve tried more than one)
> 
> I did not find anything special on the second console nor scrolling up with
> scroll lock. My internet connection is working.
> 
> Does anybody have a solution to my problem?

Sounds like your DHCP server is not telling you the IP numbers of some usable
DNS servers.  

Alternatively, you can just tell the installer not to use DHCP and fill in the
IP, netmask, gateway, hostname and DNS server manually in the network settings
screen.

> P.S. is there a way to go to a console during installation to tweak some
> settings like I used doing in Archlinux? Maybe then I can get the connection
> working by hand.

Sure.  Alt+F4 will take you to the 'emergency holographic shell' where
you should[*] be able to edit the /etc/resolv.conf file used during
installation.

However, be aware that editing that file won't automatically affect
the /etc/resolv.conf you get once everything is installed -- in fact,
if you're using DHCP, that file will be overwritten at each reboot.

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] Possibly with some difficulty, as you'll be in a memory file system
with very limited contents.

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[OT] Re: FTP-Installation

2004-10-12 Thread Steve Bertrand
> Steve Bertrand wrote:
>
>>>Hi There !
>>>Is there a way to use a bootable CD instead of a bootable floppy to
>>>start the FTP-Installation ?
>>>I simply don't have a Floppy-drive any more
>>>
> You can either download the full CD ISO images, or the mini-iso,
> either
> of which is bootable.
>
>>>Sure, download your distro, boot off the CD, and select FTP as your
>>>installation source.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Did you just call FreeBSD a distro? shame on you! ;)

My sincerest apologies...I should have said release.

Remember however, this past weekend was Thanksgiving in Canada, so
this morning I was just trying to shake the cobwebs of the long
weekend away.

;o)

Steve

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Re: FTP-Installation

2004-10-12 Thread Frank Laszlo
Steve Bertrand wrote:
Hi There !
Is there a way to use a bootable CD instead of a bootable floppy to
start the FTP-Installation ?
I simply don't have a Floppy-drive any more
You can either download the full CD ISO images, or the mini-iso, either 
of which is bootable.

Sure, download your distro, boot off the CD, and select FTP as your
installation source.
   

Did you just call FreeBSD a distro? shame on you! ;)
-Frank
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Re: FTP-Installation

2004-10-12 Thread Steve Bertrand
> Hi There !
> Is there a way to use a bootable CD instead of a bootable floppy to
> start the FTP-Installation ?
> I simply don't have a Floppy-drive any more

Sure, download your distro, boot off the CD, and select FTP as your
installation source.

However, I thought the point of the CD was to NOT have to download via
FTP... ;o)

Steve

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Re: FTP-Installation

2004-10-12 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Tuesday 12 October 2004 15:14, Florian Haas wrote:
> Hi There !
> Is there a way to use a bootable CD instead of a bootable floppy to
> start the FTP-Installation ?
> I simply don't have a Floppy-drive any more

You can use the boot-only CD

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.3/

Assuming you are using PC hardware

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RE: FTP installation through a NAT on a DSL connection

2003-02-23 Thread Vaughan Moore
Thanks for the suggestion.  In this case, I don't think this is the problem.
I took a look at the debugging messages and I see the installation program:

Found ftp2.freebsd.org
logged me in
changed working directories to the 4.7-RELEASE
then:
Sending PASV
Entering Passive Mode (130,94,149,162,215,188)
Sending: RETR bin/bin.inf
Opening BINARY mode data connection for 'bin/bin.inf' (4255 bytes)
DEBUG: Parsing atributes file for distribution bin

Then I get an error message "Cannont parse information file for the bin
distribuiton:  I/O error.  Please verify that your media is valid and try
again.

So, it seems that I'm able to log in to the FTP server, change directories,
enter passive mode and request the bin.inf file.  All those activities don't
take much in the way of packet size.  But the bin.inf is 4255 bytes so the
packets will have to be broken down.  As I said in my original message, I
think the problem is my MTU setting.

Does anyone know how to change the Max MTU size in the Network Configuration
screen.  It seems like I would be able to put a command in the options box.
I experimented with this but I guess I'm not getting the syntax right.  I've
had to set the Max MTU on my Windows machine to 1330 so it makes sense that
I would have to do the same on freebsd.

Thanks for the help.

Vaughan

-Original Message-
From: Terry J Dunlap Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:14 PM
To: Vaughan Moore
Subject: Re: FTP installation through a NAT on a DSL connection


If your install box is connecting through the Win98 box with Zone Alarm, did
you add the FTP site as one of the authorized IPs you can connect with? And,
have you tried connecting when Zone Alarm is disabled?

I had the exact problem with my FreeBSD router. I could make the connection
to the site, but packets coming back were blocked. After some research, I
discovered I needed to add a dynamic rule that would allow it back in. The
only way I know how to do that with Zone Alarm is to add the IP to the list
of allowable hosts.

Terry

- Original Message -
From: "Vaughan Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Willie Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: FTP installation through a NAT on a DSL connection


> Well, at least now I'm getting packets back and forth.
>
> DNS: query 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 199.45.32.43:53 for ftp2.freebsd.org
> DNS: query 151.200.238.11:45175 -> 199.45.32.43:53 for ftp2.freebsd.org
> DNS: query 10.10.1.210:1025 -> 199.45.32.43:53 for ftp2.freebsd.org
> DNS: query 151.200.238.11:45176 -> 199.45.32.43:53 for ftp2.freebsd.org
> TCP: packet 5400, length 74, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 130.94.149.162:21, flags:
> SYN , seq:2842580946 ack:0
> TCP: packet 5404, length 74, 151.200.238.11:45177 -> 130.94.149.162:21,
> flags: SYN , seq:2842580946 ack:0
> TCP: packet 5405, length 74, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 151.200.238.11:45177,
> flags: SYN ACK , seq:1377839201 ack:2842580947
> TCP: packet 5406, length 74, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 10.10.1.210:1024, flags:
> SYN ACK , seq:1377839201 ack:2842580947
> TCP: packet 5407, length 66, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 130.94.149.162:21, flags:
> ACK , seq:2842580947 ack:1377839202
> TCP: packet 5408, length 76, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 130.94.149.162:21, flags:
> ACK , seq:2842580947 ack:1377839202
> TCP: packet 5409, length 66, 151.200.238.11:45177 -> 130.94.149.162:21,
> flags: ACK , seq:2842580947 ack:1377839202
> TCP: packet 5410, length 76, 151.200.238.11:45177 -> 130.94.149.162:21,
> flags: ACK , seq:2842580947 ack:1377839202
> TCP: packet 5411, length 123, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 151.200.238.11:45177,
> flags: ACK , seq:1377839202 ack:2842580947
> TCP: packet 5412, length 123, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 10.10.1.210:1024,
flags:
> ACK , seq:1377839202 ack:2842580947
> TCP: packet 5413, length 124, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 151.200.238.11:45177,
> flags: ACK , seq:1377839259 ack:2842580957
> TCP: packet 5414, length 124, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 10.10.1.210:1024,
flags:
> ACK , seq:1377839259 ack:2842580957
> TCP: packet 5415, length 66, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 130.94.149.162:21, flags:
> ACK , seq:2842580957 ack:1377839317
> TCP: packet 5416, length 99, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 130.94.149.162:21, flags:
> ACK , seq:2842580957 ack:1377839317
> TCP: packet 5417, length 66, 151.200.238.11:45177 -> 130.94.149.162:21,
> flags: ACK , seq:2842580957 ack:1377839317
> TCP: packet 5418, length 99, 151.200.238.11:45177 -> 130.94.149.162:21,
> flags: ACK , seq:2842580957 ack:1377839317
> TCP: packet 5419, length 114, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 151.200.238.11:45177,
> flags: ACK , seq:1377839317 ack:2842580990
> TCP: packet 5420, length 114, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 10.10.1.210:1024,
flags:
> 

Re: FTP installation through a NAT on a DSL connection

2003-02-22 Thread Willie Viljoen
On Sunday 23 February 2003 4:57, Vaughan Moore wrote:
> Well, at least now I'm getting packets back and forth.
>
> But, I get this error message:
>
> Cannot parse information file for the bin distribution:  I/O error. 
> Please verify that your media is valid and try again.
>
> My ip gateway is 10.10.1.1
> My name server is 199.45.32.43
> My ip is 10.10.1.210
> My netmask is 255.255.255.0
>
> Again, thanks so much for the help.
>
> Vaughan
>

Chances are the mirror you are using doesn't carry the distributions. Try 
installing from another one :)

>
> -Original Message-
> From: Willie Viljoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
> Of Willie Viljoen
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 5:15 PM
> To: Vaughan Moore
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: FTP installation through a NAT on a DSL connection
>
>
> You're one step closer. When doing network configuration, make sure you
> list a valid and real DNS server. Try setting it up to use the DNS at
> your ISP, or the winroute if it provides DNS.
>
> On Sunday 23 February 2003 0:08, Vaughan Moore wrote:
> > Thanks so much for the suggestion.  When I use passive mode I get an
> > error message "Could not open ftp connection to ftp3.freebsd.org.
> > Service not available, closing control connection."  When I hit OK
> > another error message comes up "unable to initialize selected media.
> > Would you like to adjust you media configuration and try again?"  When
> > I do that, I go through the network configuration process again, but I
> > get an immediate error message "Cannot resolve host name
> > ftp3.freebsd.org! Are you sure that your name server, gateway and
> > network interface are correctly configured?"  I'm using DHCP, and it is
> > pulling the correct IP's for these.
> >
> > Here's the log in my Winroute NAT.  What do you think I'm doing wrong?
> >
> > Vaughan
> >
> >
> > Interface Table:
> > Interface   Status  Medium  IP address  
> > NAT  Index
> > NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethe...  UpEthernet10.10.1.1   50331652
> > NETGEAR FA311 Fast Ethern...  UpEthernet10.10.1.0   67108869
> > Dial in adapter DownRAS 0.0.0.0 0
> > line1   Up  RAS 151.200.238.11 
> >  on  16777218  dhcp
> >
> > TCP/IP stack's Routing Table:
> > Net MaskGateway Interface   Metric
> > 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 line1   1
> > 10.10.1.0   255.255.255.0   NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethe...  2
> > 10.10.1.0   255.255.255.0   NETGEAR FA311 Fast Ethern...  2
> > 151.200.0.0  255.255.0.0line1   1
> >
> > DNS: query 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 10.10.1.1:53 for ftp3.freebsd.org
> > dns: query from 10.10.1.210:1024 id 41361
> > dns: question: A, ftp3.freebsd.org
> > dns: reply: ftp3.freebsd.org has 198.82.184.28
> > DNS: query 10.10.1.210:1025 -> 10.10.1.1:53 for ftp3.freebsd.org
> > dns: query from 10.10.1.210:1025 id 41362
> > dns: question: A, ftp3.freebsd.org
> > dns: reply: ftp3.freebsd.org has 198.82.184.28
> > TCP: packet 1278, length 74, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 198.82.184.28:21,
> > flags: SYN , seq:4161382813 ack:0
> > TCP: packet 1282, length 74, 151.200.238.11:45050 -> 198.82.184.28:21,
> > flags: SYN , seq:4161382813 ack:0
> >
> >  - > Snip - Repeats 8 times and drops down to a length of 60 after try
> > number 3
> >
> > DNS: query 151.200.238.11:45051 -> 199.45.32.43:53 for
> > 9.136.168.217.in-addr.arpa
> > DNS: query 151.200.238.11:45052 -> 199.45.32.38:53 for
> > 9.136.168.217.in-addr.arpa
> > TCP: packet 1323, length 74, 198.82.184.28:21 -> 151.200.238.11:45050,
> > flags: SYN ACK , seq:77305705 ack:4161382814
> > TCP: packet 1327, length 74, 198.82.184.28:21 -> 10.10.1.210:1024,
> > flags: SYN ACK , seq:77305705 ack:4161382814
> > TCP: packet 1328, length 60, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 198.82.184.28:21,
> > flags: RST , seq:4161382814 ack:0
> >
> > This is where the install program quit and asked if I wanted to retry.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Willie Viljoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
> > Of Willie Viljoen
> > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:26 AM
> > To: Vaughan Moore
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: FTP installation through a NAT on a DSL connection
> >
> > On Saturday 22 

RE: FTP installation through a NAT on a DSL connection

2003-02-22 Thread Vaughan Moore
Well, at least now I'm getting packets back and forth.

DNS: query 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 199.45.32.43:53 for ftp2.freebsd.org
DNS: query 151.200.238.11:45175 -> 199.45.32.43:53 for ftp2.freebsd.org
DNS: query 10.10.1.210:1025 -> 199.45.32.43:53 for ftp2.freebsd.org
DNS: query 151.200.238.11:45176 -> 199.45.32.43:53 for ftp2.freebsd.org
TCP: packet 5400, length 74, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 130.94.149.162:21, flags:
SYN , seq:2842580946 ack:0
TCP: packet 5404, length 74, 151.200.238.11:45177 -> 130.94.149.162:21,
flags: SYN , seq:2842580946 ack:0
TCP: packet 5405, length 74, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 151.200.238.11:45177,
flags: SYN ACK , seq:1377839201 ack:2842580947
TCP: packet 5406, length 74, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 10.10.1.210:1024, flags:
SYN ACK , seq:1377839201 ack:2842580947
TCP: packet 5407, length 66, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 130.94.149.162:21, flags:
ACK , seq:2842580947 ack:1377839202
TCP: packet 5408, length 76, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 130.94.149.162:21, flags:
ACK , seq:2842580947 ack:1377839202
TCP: packet 5409, length 66, 151.200.238.11:45177 -> 130.94.149.162:21,
flags: ACK , seq:2842580947 ack:1377839202
TCP: packet 5410, length 76, 151.200.238.11:45177 -> 130.94.149.162:21,
flags: ACK , seq:2842580947 ack:1377839202
TCP: packet 5411, length 123, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 151.200.238.11:45177,
flags: ACK , seq:1377839202 ack:2842580947
TCP: packet 5412, length 123, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 10.10.1.210:1024, flags:
ACK , seq:1377839202 ack:2842580947
TCP: packet 5413, length 124, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 151.200.238.11:45177,
flags: ACK , seq:1377839259 ack:2842580957
TCP: packet 5414, length 124, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 10.10.1.210:1024, flags:
ACK , seq:1377839259 ack:2842580957
TCP: packet 5415, length 66, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 130.94.149.162:21, flags:
ACK , seq:2842580957 ack:1377839317
TCP: packet 5416, length 99, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 130.94.149.162:21, flags:
ACK , seq:2842580957 ack:1377839317
TCP: packet 5417, length 66, 151.200.238.11:45177 -> 130.94.149.162:21,
flags: ACK , seq:2842580957 ack:1377839317
TCP: packet 5418, length 99, 151.200.238.11:45177 -> 130.94.149.162:21,
flags: ACK , seq:2842580957 ack:1377839317
TCP: packet 5419, length 114, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 151.200.238.11:45177,
flags: ACK , seq:1377839317 ack:2842580990
TCP: packet 5420, length 114, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 10.10.1.210:1024, flags:
ACK , seq:1377839317 ack:2842580990
TCP: packet 5421, length 74, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 130.94.149.162:21, flags:
ACK , seq:2842580990 ack:1377839365
TCP: packet 5422, length 74, 151.200.238.11:45177 -> 130.94.149.162:21,
flags: ACK , seq:2842580990 ack:1377839365
TCP: packet 5423, length 86, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 151.200.238.11:45177,
flags: ACK , seq:1377839365 ack:2842580998
TCP: packet 5424, length 86, 130.94.149.162:21 -> 10.10.1.210:1024, flags:
ACK , seq:1377839365 ack:2842580998

But, I get this error message:

Cannot parse information file for the bin distribution:  I/O error.  Please
verify that your media is valid and try again.

My ip gateway is 10.10.1.1
My name server is 199.45.32.43
My ip is 10.10.1.210
My netmask is 255.255.255.0

Again, thanks so much for the help.

Vaughan


-Original Message-
From: Willie Viljoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Willie Viljoen
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 5:15 PM
To: Vaughan Moore
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FTP installation through a NAT on a DSL connection


You're one step closer. When doing network configuration, make sure you list
a valid and real DNS server. Try setting it up to use the DNS at your ISP,
or the winroute if it provides DNS.

On Sunday 23 February 2003 0:08, Vaughan Moore wrote:
> Thanks so much for the suggestion.  When I use passive mode I get an
> error message "Could not open ftp connection to ftp3.freebsd.org.
> Service not available, closing control connection."  When I hit OK
> another error message comes up "unable to initialize selected media.
> Would you like to adjust you media configuration and try again?"  When I
> do that, I go through the network configuration process again, but I get
> an immediate error message "Cannot resolve host name ftp3.freebsd.org!
> Are you sure that your name server, gateway and network interface are
> correctly configured?"  I'm using DHCP, and it is pulling the correct
> IP's for these.
>
> Here's the log in my Winroute NAT.  What do you think I'm doing wrong?
>
> Vaughan
>
>
> Interface Table:
> Interface Status  Medium  IP address  
> NAT  Index
> NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethe...  Up  Ethernet10.10.1.1   50331652
> NETGEAR FA311 Fast Ethern...  Up  Ethernet10.10.1.0   67108869
> Dial in adapter   DownRAS 0.0.0.0 0
> line1

Re: FTP installation through a NAT on a DSL connection

2003-02-22 Thread Willie Viljoen
You're one step closer. When doing network configuration, make sure you list 
a valid and real DNS server. Try setting it up to use the DNS at your ISP, 
or the winroute if it provides DNS.

On Sunday 23 February 2003 0:08, Vaughan Moore wrote:
> Thanks so much for the suggestion.  When I use passive mode I get an
> error message "Could not open ftp connection to ftp3.freebsd.org. 
> Service not available, closing control connection."  When I hit OK
> another error message comes up "unable to initialize selected media. 
> Would you like to adjust you media configuration and try again?"  When I
> do that, I go through the network configuration process again, but I get
> an immediate error message "Cannot resolve host name ftp3.freebsd.org! 
> Are you sure that your name server, gateway and network interface are
> correctly configured?"  I'm using DHCP, and it is pulling the correct
> IP's for these.
>
> Here's the log in my Winroute NAT.  What do you think I'm doing wrong?
>
> Vaughan
>
>
> Interface Table:
> Interface Status  Medium  IP address  
> NAT  Index
> NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethe...  Up  Ethernet10.10.1.1   50331652
> NETGEAR FA311 Fast Ethern...  Up  Ethernet10.10.1.0   67108869
> Dial in adapter   DownRAS 0.0.0.0 0
> line1 Up  RAS 151.200.238.11 
>  on  16777218  dhcp
>
> TCP/IP stack's Routing Table:
> Net   MaskGateway Interface   Metric
> 0.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 line1   1
> 10.10.1.0 255.255.255.0   NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethe...  2
> 10.10.1.0 255.255.255.0   NETGEAR FA311 Fast Ethern...  2
> 151.200.0.0  255.255.0.0  line1   1
>
> DNS: query 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 10.10.1.1:53 for ftp3.freebsd.org
> dns: query from 10.10.1.210:1024 id 41361
> dns: question: A, ftp3.freebsd.org
> dns: reply: ftp3.freebsd.org has 198.82.184.28
> DNS: query 10.10.1.210:1025 -> 10.10.1.1:53 for ftp3.freebsd.org
> dns: query from 10.10.1.210:1025 id 41362
> dns: question: A, ftp3.freebsd.org
> dns: reply: ftp3.freebsd.org has 198.82.184.28
> TCP: packet 1278, length 74, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 198.82.184.28:21, flags:
> SYN , seq:4161382813 ack:0
> TCP: packet 1282, length 74, 151.200.238.11:45050 -> 198.82.184.28:21,
> flags: SYN , seq:4161382813 ack:0
>
>  - > Snip - Repeats 8 times and drops down to a length of 60 after try
> number 3
>
> DNS: query 151.200.238.11:45051 -> 199.45.32.43:53 for
> 9.136.168.217.in-addr.arpa
> DNS: query 151.200.238.11:45052 -> 199.45.32.38:53 for
> 9.136.168.217.in-addr.arpa
> TCP: packet 1323, length 74, 198.82.184.28:21 -> 151.200.238.11:45050,
> flags: SYN ACK , seq:77305705 ack:4161382814
> TCP: packet 1327, length 74, 198.82.184.28:21 -> 10.10.1.210:1024, flags:
> SYN ACK , seq:77305705 ack:4161382814
> TCP: packet 1328, length 60, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 198.82.184.28:21, flags:
> RST , seq:4161382814 ack:0
>
> This is where the install program quit and asked if I wanted to retry.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Willie Viljoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
> Of Willie Viljoen
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:26 AM
> To: Vaughan Moore
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: FTP installation through a NAT on a DSL connection
>
> On Saturday 22 February 2003 16:55, Vaughan Moore wrote:
> > I'm installing 4.7 at home.  The Intel box is behind a NAT running on a
> > Win98 box with ZoneAlarm running.  The point of installing 4.7 is so
> > that I can replace the 98 box as my gateway to my Verizon DSL
> > connection.
> >
> > My installation fails when the program tries to access one of the ftp
> > servers.  When the time-out occurs I get an installation media error
> > message.
> >
> > I know that my subnet on the NAT works because when I plug a 2000
> > machine into the gateway I can access the Internet.  However, I had to
> > lower the Max MTU settings in the registry to do it.  I understand that
> > PPPoE requires a lower MTU setting, but I'm not sure how to set MTU in
> > the installation program.
> >
> > Can anyone help me with the problem?
> >
> > Vaughan Moore
>
> I'm almost sure MTU is not the problem in this case, the Windows machine
> should be taking care of that. Try setting FTP into passive mode in the
> installer's options screen, or turning off passive mode if that's the
> default on your version. Windows 98 NATs are not famo

RE: FTP installation through a NAT on a DSL connection

2003-02-22 Thread Vaughan Moore
Thanks so much for the suggestion.  When I use passive mode I get an error
message "Could not open ftp connection to ftp3.freebsd.org.  Service not
available, closing control connection."  When I hit OK another error message
comes up "unable to initialize selected media.  Would you like to adjust you
media configuration and try again?"  When I do that, I go through the
network configuration process again, but I get an immediate error message
"Cannot resolve host name ftp3.freebsd.org!  Are you sure that your name
server, gateway and network interface are correctly configured?"  I'm using
DHCP, and it is pulling the correct IP's for these.

Here's the log in my Winroute NAT.  What do you think I'm doing wrong?

Vaughan


Interface Table:
Interface   Status  Medium  IP address  
NAT  Index
NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethe...  UpEthernet10.10.1.1   50331652
NETGEAR FA311 Fast Ethern...  UpEthernet10.10.1.0   67108869
Dial in adapter DownRAS 0.0.0.0 0
line1   Up  RAS 151.200.238.11  on  
16777218  dhcp

TCP/IP stack's Routing Table:
Net MaskGateway Interface   Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 line1   1
10.10.1.0   255.255.255.0   NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethe...  2
10.10.1.0   255.255.255.0   NETGEAR FA311 Fast Ethern...  2
151.200.0.0  255.255.0.0line1   1

DNS: query 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 10.10.1.1:53 for ftp3.freebsd.org
dns: query from 10.10.1.210:1024 id 41361
dns: question: A, ftp3.freebsd.org
dns: reply: ftp3.freebsd.org has 198.82.184.28
DNS: query 10.10.1.210:1025 -> 10.10.1.1:53 for ftp3.freebsd.org
dns: query from 10.10.1.210:1025 id 41362
dns: question: A, ftp3.freebsd.org
dns: reply: ftp3.freebsd.org has 198.82.184.28
TCP: packet 1278, length 74, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 198.82.184.28:21, flags:
SYN , seq:4161382813 ack:0
TCP: packet 1282, length 74, 151.200.238.11:45050 -> 198.82.184.28:21,
flags: SYN , seq:4161382813 ack:0

 - > Snip - Repeats 8 times and drops down to a length of 60 after try
number 3

DNS: query 151.200.238.11:45051 -> 199.45.32.43:53 for
9.136.168.217.in-addr.arpa
DNS: query 151.200.238.11:45052 -> 199.45.32.38:53 for
9.136.168.217.in-addr.arpa
TCP: packet 1323, length 74, 198.82.184.28:21 -> 151.200.238.11:45050,
flags: SYN ACK , seq:77305705 ack:4161382814
TCP: packet 1327, length 74, 198.82.184.28:21 -> 10.10.1.210:1024, flags:
SYN ACK , seq:77305705 ack:4161382814
TCP: packet 1328, length 60, 10.10.1.210:1024 -> 198.82.184.28:21, flags:
RST , seq:4161382814 ack:0

This is where the install program quit and asked if I wanted to retry.

-Original Message-
From: Willie Viljoen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Willie Viljoen
Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:26 AM
To: Vaughan Moore
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FTP installation through a NAT on a DSL connection


On Saturday 22 February 2003 16:55, Vaughan Moore wrote:
> I'm installing 4.7 at home.  The Intel box is behind a NAT running on a
> Win98 box with ZoneAlarm running.  The point of installing 4.7 is so that
> I can replace the 98 box as my gateway to my Verizon DSL connection.
>
> My installation fails when the program tries to access one of the ftp
> servers.  When the time-out occurs I get an installation media error
> message.
>
> I know that my subnet on the NAT works because when I plug a 2000 machine
> into the gateway I can access the Internet.  However, I had to lower the
> Max MTU settings in the registry to do it.  I understand that PPPoE
> requires a lower MTU setting, but I'm not sure how to set MTU in the
> installation program.
>
> Can anyone help me with the problem?
>
> Vaughan Moore
>

I'm almost sure MTU is not the problem in this case, the Windows machine
should be taking care of that. Try setting FTP into passive mode in the
installer's options screen, or turning off passive mode if that's the
default on your version. Windows 98 NATs are not famous for handling FTP
properly.

--
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Freelance IT Consultant

214 Paul Kruger Avenue, Universitas
Bloemfontein
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South Africa

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Re: FTP installation through a NAT on a DSL connection

2003-02-22 Thread Willie Viljoen
On Saturday 22 February 2003 16:55, Vaughan Moore wrote:
> I'm installing 4.7 at home.  The Intel box is behind a NAT running on a
> Win98 box with ZoneAlarm running.  The point of installing 4.7 is so that
> I can replace the 98 box as my gateway to my Verizon DSL connection.
>
> My installation fails when the program tries to access one of the ftp
> servers.  When the time-out occurs I get an installation media error
> message.
>
> I know that my subnet on the NAT works because when I plug a 2000 machine
> into the gateway I can access the Internet.  However, I had to lower the
> Max MTU settings in the registry to do it.  I understand that PPPoE
> requires a lower MTU setting, but I'm not sure how to set MTU in the
> installation program.
>
> Can anyone help me with the problem?
>
> Vaughan Moore
>

I'm almost sure MTU is not the problem in this case, the Windows machine 
should be taking care of that. Try setting FTP into passive mode in the 
installer's options screen, or turning off passive mode if that's the 
default on your version. Windows 98 NATs are not famous for handling FTP 
properly.

-- 
Willie Viljoen
Freelance IT Consultant

214 Paul Kruger Avenue, Universitas
Bloemfontein
9321
South Africa

+27 51 522 15 60
+27 51 522 44 36 (after hours)
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Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with PPPoEor PPTP protocol.

2002-12-20 Thread Darren Pilgrim
Asker wrote:

The modem can be configured to use PPPoE or PPTP protocol for making the
connection with my Internet Servise Provider.


Well if the modem does PPPoE itself (and preusmably NAT) then you need no
speical support from the OS. From its poitn of view you are just conencted
via ethernet.


If you need the machine to do PPPoE, ppp supports PPPoE.  For this to 
work, though, you need netgraph, which isn't in GENERIC.  You will need 
to make a custom kernel and build your own set of custom floppies.

Ok, so in my situation the installation of FreeBSD is impossible.
What do you think about changing GENERIC or just the kernel in installation
floppies in the future releases of FreeBSD? I think it will be very useful
because ADSL (therefore PPPoE protocol) is very frequent method of
connecting with Internet Service Provider in our days.


Read the other peoples' posts.  It seems I was incorrect in my 
statement.  Despite the lack of a set of kernel modules on the floppies, 
PPPoE is still supported.  Randy Pratt posted a link to a doc he wrote 
on getting PPPoE working within sysinstall.

P.S. FTP installation use much less internet traffic than 4 huge ISO files'
downloading.


Depending on what you're installing, yes.  Personally, I prefer to have 
everything local during an install.  I've never liked the idea of 
connecting to the internet as root, and that's exactly what you do when 
doing an FTP install.


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Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with P

2002-12-20 Thread Toomas Aas
> Date:  Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:03:25 +0200
> From:  Asker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> What do you think about changing GENERIC or just the kernel in installation
> floppies in the future releases of FreeBSD? I think it will be very useful
> because ADSL (therefore PPPoE protocol) is very frequent method of
> connecting with Internet Service Provider in our days.

ADSL doesn't necessarily mean PPPoE. At least here in Estonia PPPoE 
seems to be on its way out and the bulk of ISPs providing ADSL use just 
Ethernet without any PPP.

> P.S. FTP installation use much less internet traffic than 4 huge ISO files'
> downloading.

There is no need to download 4 huge ISO files. All you really need is 
the one mini-ISO, ca 200 MB.

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Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with PPPoE or PPTP protocol.

2002-12-20 Thread Asker
> > > The modem can be configured to use PPPoE or PPTP protocol for making the
> > > connection with my Internet Servise Provider.
> > 
> > Well if the modem does PPPoE itself (and preusmably NAT) then you need no
> > speical support from the OS. From its poitn of view you are just conencted
> > via ethernet.
>
> If you need the machine to do PPPoE, ppp supports PPPoE.  For this to 
> work, though, you need netgraph, which isn't in GENERIC.  You will need 
> to make a custom kernel and build your own set of custom floppies.

Ok, so in my situation the installation of FreeBSD is impossible.
What do you think about changing GENERIC or just the kernel in installation
floppies in the future releases of FreeBSD? I think it will be very useful
because ADSL (therefore PPPoE protocol) is very frequent method of
connecting with Internet Service Provider in our days.

P.S. FTP installation use much less internet traffic than 4 huge ISO files'
downloading.

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Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with PPPoE or PPTP protocol.

2002-12-19 Thread Randy Pratt
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:45:03 -0800
Darren Pilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Randy Pratt wrote:
> > Darren wrote:
> >>Andrew wrote:
> >>>On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Asker wrote:
> >>>
> The modem can be configured to use PPPoE or PPTP protocol for making the
> connection with my Internet Servise Provider.
> >>>
> >>>Well if the modem does PPPoE itself (and preusmably NAT) then you need no
> >>>speical support from the OS. From its poitn of view you are just conencted
> >>>via ethernet.
> >>
> >>If you need the machine to do PPPoE, ppp supports PPPoE.  For this to 
> >>work, though, you need netgraph, which isn't in GENERIC.  You will need 
> >>to make a custom kernel and build your own set of custom floppies.
> > 
> > Happily, kernel configuration is no longer necessary for PPPoE. If the
> > necessary netgraph support is not built into the kernel, it will be
> > dynamically loaded by ppp (See handbook section on PPPoE).
> 
> Yes, but with floppies, the kernel modules aren't available, are they?
> Am I missing something?

Like you, I don't see any modules on the floppies but they do indeed
support PPPoE.  I'm not sure how the magic works but I'm assuming that
the support is built into the GENERIC kernel.  Perhaps one of our kernel
gurus could shed a bit more light on this.

I have installed both 4.7-R and 5.0-DP1 using the two floppies and 
PPPoE/FTP.  It would be nice if this were a menu option of Sysinstall
but very few people have a real need for this method.  Typically, those
with broadband will download and burn an installation cdrom.

My apologies for not being able to answer more definitively.

Randy


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Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with PPPoEor PPTP protocol.

2002-12-19 Thread Darren Pilgrim
Randy Pratt wrote:

Darren wrote:

Andrew wrote:

On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Asker wrote:


The modem can be configured to use PPPoE or PPTP protocol for making the
connection with my Internet Servise Provider.


Well if the modem does PPPoE itself (and preusmably NAT) then you need no
speical support from the OS. From its poitn of view you are just conencted
via ethernet.


If you need the machine to do PPPoE, ppp supports PPPoE.  For this to 
work, though, you need netgraph, which isn't in GENERIC.  You will need 
to make a custom kernel and build your own set of custom floppies.

Happily, kernel configuration is no longer necessary for PPPoE. If the
necessary netgraph support is not built into the kernel, it will be
dynamically loaded by ppp (See handbook section on PPPoE).


Yes, but with floppies, the kernel modules aren't available, are they?
Am I missing something?


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Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with PPPoE or PPTP protocol.

2002-12-19 Thread Randy Pratt
Darren wrote:
>Andrew wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Asker wrote:
>>>The modem can be configured to use PPPoE or PPTP protocol for making the
>>>connection with my Internet Servise Provider.
>> 
>> Well if the modem does PPPoE itself (and preusmably NAT) then you need no
>> speical support from the OS. From its poitn of view you are just conencted
>> via ethernet.
>
>If you need the machine to do PPPoE, ppp supports PPPoE.  For this to 
>work, though, you need netgraph, which isn't in GENERIC.  You will need 
>to make a custom kernel and build your own set of custom floppies.

Happily, kernel configuration is no longer necessary for PPPoE. If the
necessary netgraph support is not built into the kernel, it will be
dynamically loaded by ppp (See handbook section on PPPoE).

I have Earthlink and their modems do not have integral PPPoE or NAT but it
is possible to connect with Sysinstall and install via FTP.  Granted, it
is not straightforward since the ethernet device and ppp have to be
configured prior to starting the installation.

I kept a few notes and dressed them up a little on how to do an FTP
install using PPPoE:

http://www.treefort.org/~rpratt/pppoe/article.html

They could probably use some more work, but they should be usable.

Hope this helps the original poster.

Randy



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Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with PPPoE or PPTP protocol.

2002-12-19 Thread Brian
tis a good reason to use one of the pppoe speaking routers/nat boxes.

Brian

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From: "Darren Pilgrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with
PPPoE or PPTP protocol.


> Andrew wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Asker wrote:
> >>The modem can be configured to use PPPoE or PPTP protocol for making the
> >>connection with my Internet Servise Provider.
> >
> > Well if the modem does PPPoE itself (and preusmably NAT) then you need
no
> > speical support from the OS. From its poitn of view you are just
conencted
> > via ethernet.
>
> If you need the machine to do PPPoE, ppp supports PPPoE.  For this to
> work, though, you need netgraph, which isn't in GENERIC.  You will need
> to make a custom kernel and build your own set of custom floppies.
>
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Re: FTP installation from the floppies through ADSL modem with PPPoEor PPTP protocol.

2002-12-19 Thread Darren Pilgrim
Andrew wrote:

On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Asker wrote:

The modem can be configured to use PPPoE or PPTP protocol for making the
connection with my Internet Servise Provider.


Well if the modem does PPPoE itself (and preusmably NAT) then you need no
speical support from the OS. From its poitn of view you are just conencted
via ethernet.


If you need the machine to do PPPoE, ppp supports PPPoE.  For this to 
work, though, you need netgraph, which isn't in GENERIC.  You will need 
to make a custom kernel and build your own set of custom floppies.


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