Re: Two questions

[Lokadamus]

Am 14.04.2011 16:41, schrieb afiddler10:

Yesterday I received some very helpful advice from your technician.  I hope you 
can answer these two questions today!
  
I am trying to configure Freebsd so that I can access it from my host PC, which is Windows 7.  Yesterday the technician told me to configure bridging in VMware when I created the virtual Freebsd server.  This worked fine, but I'm wondering if there is a way to configure this outside of VMware.  I tried this on a Freebsd v8.2:
  
ifconfig bridge create

ifconfig bridge0 addm em0 addm em1 up   #interface names are em0 and em1
  
But it did not work.  I assigned an IP address to em0 but could not access it from my Windows 7 host, although I could ping that address from the virtual server (TCP/IP stack was working).  Is there something else I need to do to get this to work?
  
My second question is that this command is not in an older version of Freebsd that I am using, v4.11.  Do you have other commands to create a bridged interface on this version?
  
Thanks for your help!

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Have you vmware configure to bridge your vm? 
https://www.bsdwiki.de/Bild:VMWareNetzwerk.png
Your FreeBSD just need one IP, which should be in same range as your 
network.

In FreeBSD as guest you don't need to configure bridge.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-bridging.html
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Two questions

[afiddler10]

Yesterday I received some very helpful advice from your technician.  I hope you 
can answer these two questions today!
 
I am trying to configure Freebsd so that I can access it from my host PC, which 
is Windows 7.  Yesterday the technician told me to configure bridging in VMware 
when I created the virtual Freebsd server.  This worked fine, but I'm wondering 
if there is a way to configure this outside of VMware.  I tried this on a 
Freebsd v8.2:
 
ifconfig bridge create
ifconfig bridge0 addm em0 addm em1 up   #interface names are em0 and em1
 
But it did not work.  I assigned an IP address to em0 but could not access it 
from my Windows 7 host, although I could ping that address from the virtual 
server (TCP/IP stack was working).  Is there something else I need to do to get 
this to work?
 
My second question is that this command is not in an older version of Freebsd 
that I am using, v4.11.  Do you have other commands to create a bridged 
interface on this version?
 
Thanks for your help!
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Re: Bash logging: two questions

[Anonymous]

jimbob palmer  writes:

> Hello,
>
> I would like to run a bash script but to log output and exit codes.
> Essentially I would like to run the script with bash -x, but for that
> output to the log to go to a file, and the normal output as from
> running a normal script to go to the terminal.

Dunno about bash but in zsh it's easy

  #! /usr/bin/env zsh
  PS4='+%i:%N:%?> '
  exec 2>trace.log
  set -x

  # here goes the main script
  foo=5
  bar=$(date)
  echo foo=$foo, $bar
  false
  echo

It should work in sh(1) except you'll not see exit values in prompt.

Seems like bash doesn't have tcsh-like features: `%?' and printexitvalue.
I guess you'll have to write your own wrapper to put `$?' into stderr
after each command.

> My second question is about history. Bash has a -h option to remember
> the location of commands as they are looked up. Is it possible for
> this to be recorded in the history? e.g. if I run ls, it would record
> /bin/ls to the bash history file.

If bash has smth like zshaddhistory() it'd be easy...
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Bash logging: two questions

[jimbob palmer]

Hello,

I would like to run a bash script but to log output and exit codes.
Essentially I would like to run the script with bash -x, but for that
output to the log to go to a file, and the normal output as from
running a normal script to go to the terminal.

That's my first question :)

My second question is about history. Bash has a -h option to remember
the location of commands as they are looked up. Is it possible for
this to be recorded in the history? e.g. if I run ls, it would record
/bin/ls to the bash history file.

Many thanks.

JB
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Re: two questions....

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 16:04:20 -0700, Gary Kline  wrote:
> guys, i just found a truckload of Just Outstanding fonts.  at the CTAN
> .org site there must be hundreds of these superb serif typefaces.  in
> my /home/kline/ directory, i have a ~/.fonts directory.  but it's been
> awhile since i've added to it.  what's the magic to getting these
> tex-gyre fonts can use them?  i would like these to be available for
> abiword, OOo, as well as my tex packages. clues, please.

Installing fonts in ~/.fonts makes them available for all the programs
that use fontconfig after you run:

fc-cache -v

TeX and a few other applications (e.g. groff) have their own way of
handling fonts.  You may have to install them using a TeX-specific set
of commands.  Newer TeX-live installations support XeTeX too.  To use a
Truetype font in XeTeX you will need to copy the fonts to a path that is
visible during xetex/xelatex runs and add something like this in your
document's preamble:

\usepackage{fontspec}
\defaultfontfeatures{Mapping=tex-text}

\setmainfont[Scale=0.9,
  BoldFont={*-Bold},
  ItalicFont={*-Italic},
  BoldItalicFont={*-BoldItalic}]
  {DejaVuSerifCondensed}
\setsansfont[Scale=0.9,
  BoldFont={*-Bold},
  ItalicFont={*-Italic},
  BoldItalicFont={*-BoldItalic}]
  {DejaVuSansCondensed}
% Monospace DejaVu fonts have to be scaled down a bit more than
% their serif or sans-serif equivalents to look "nice" in print
% output.
\setmonofont[Scale=0.85,
  BoldFont={*-Bold},
  ItalicFont={*-Oblique},
  BoldItalicFont={*-BoldOblique}]
  {DejaVuSansMono}

\usepackage{xunicode}
\usepackage{xltxtra}

This is the preamble text I use to write XeTeX documents using the
DejaVu family of fonts.  The results are fantastic.  A sample of what
these fonts yield can be seen at:

http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/free.pdf

This is one of the books I converted from their HTML source to XeLaTeX
when I was learning to use TrueType and OpenType fonts in TeX.  Copying
the DejaVu fonts in the same directory as the TeX source makes them
immediately available to XeLaTeX.  This is nice because you can package
both the TeX source *and* the necessary fonts in the same archive :-)

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Re: two questions....

[Gary Kline]

On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 02:13:22AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 07:32:20PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> > Gary Kline  writes:
> > 
> > > guys, i just found a truckload of Just Outstanding fonts.  at the
> > > CTAN .org site there must be hundreds of these superb serif
> > > typefaces.  in my /home/kline/ directory, i have a ~/.fonts
> > > directory.  but it's been awhile since i've added to it.  what's
> > > the magic to getting these tex-gyre fonts can use them?  i would
> > > like these to be available for abiword, OOo, as well as my tex
> > > packages. clues, please.   
> > 
> > mkfontdir(1) and mkfontscale(1) are all you need.
> 
> And fc-cache(1), I think.
> 



i thought i mailed this several hours ago...  anyway, i nowhave
the tex-gyre font on both oo.org and abiword, but only on abiword
are my entire set of ~/.fonts/* 

in several more houtrs i'll see what happens when i create a 10pt
pdf file from my test.tex.

gary


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Re: two questions....

[Roland Smith]

On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 07:32:20PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Gary Kline  writes:
> 
> > guys, i just found a truckload of Just Outstanding fonts.  at the
> > CTAN .org site there must be hundreds of these superb serif
> > typefaces.  in my /home/kline/ directory, i have a ~/.fonts
> > directory.  but it's been awhile since i've added to it.  what's
> > the magic to getting these tex-gyre fonts can use them?  i would
> > like these to be available for abiword, OOo, as well as my tex
> > packages. clues, please.   
> 
> mkfontdir(1) and mkfontscale(1) are all you need.

And fc-cache(1), I think.

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Re: two questions....

[Gary Kline]

On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 07:32:20PM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Gary Kline  writes:
> 
> > guys, i just found a truckload of Just Outstanding fonts.  at the
> > CTAN .org site there must be hundreds of these superb serif
> > typefaces.  in my /home/kline/ directory, i have a ~/.fonts
> > directory.  but it's been awhile since i've added to it.  what's
> > the magic to getting these tex-gyre fonts can use them?  i would
> > like these to be available for abiword, OOo, as well as my tex
> > packages. clues, please.   
> 
> mkfontdir(1) and mkfontscale(1) are all you need.


yeah, check my notes; wsasn't clear.  do i run each command
in ~/.fonts/TTF and ~/.fonts/Type1 [[[ after i move the tex-*
over there?  [there are already scores of fonts there.]

Matthew mumbled something about 'sadmin' and i found the
biary like that.  it changed my printer name and said it
added 28 ttf fonts

[?]



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Re: two questions....

[Lowell Gilbert]

Gary Kline  writes:

> guys, i just found a truckload of Just Outstanding fonts.  at the
> CTAN .org site there must be hundreds of these superb serif
> typefaces.  in my /home/kline/ directory, i have a ~/.fonts
> directory.  but it's been awhile since i've added to it.  what's
> the magic to getting these tex-gyre fonts can use them?  i would
> like these to be available for abiword, OOo, as well as my tex
> packages. clues, please.   

mkfontdir(1) and mkfontscale(1) are all you need.
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two questions....

[Gary Kline]

guys, i just found a truckload of Just Outstanding fonts.  at the
CTAN .org site there must be hundreds of these superb serif
typefaces.  in my /home/kline/ directory, i have a ~/.fonts
directory.  but it's been awhile since i've added to it.  what's
the magic to getting these tex-gyre fonts can use them?  i would
like these to be available for abiword, OOo, as well as my tex
packages. clues, please.   

the second question is that a few hours ago i reinstalled
something from /usr/ports/print, the lyx15 port.  i played around
with this only one time and would like this list's opinion of it.

i'll probably continue to typeset my manuscripts by hand the way
i was learning in the early 90's.  would still like the general
consensus on lyx and related.

tia,

gary



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Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[Joshua Isom]

If I recall correctly, only the i386 version of Leopard is Unix 
certified, so if you're still using a PowerPC, you're out of luck for 
upgrading to a Unix certified operating system.  But I believe a 
previous version was if you'd like to downgrade.


As far as I know, Unix certification is more about interoperability 
than anything else, but there's still the public perception about 
security and stability.  For Apple, it's probably more about bragging 
rights and propaganda than anything else.


Before saying I'm anti-Apple, I'm writing this email using Mail.app.

On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:


I recently noticed that Apple's new OS, Leopard, is Unix certified.

I'd imagine that the big reason that FreeBSD hasn't done this yet is: 
It costs a lot of money.


That said, if in theory one were to try to get the operating system 
certified (say, to increase awareness and market share versus the 
penguinistas)...


a) approximately how much money is "a lot"?

and

b) How far short, technically, does FreeBSD fall from the standard 
(we'll ignore operational semantics for the time being)


-Dan

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Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[Jerry McAllister]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 03:18:02PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 03:51:34PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 01:56:05PM -0400, Rob wrote:
> > 
> > > Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
> > > >I recently noticed that Apple's new OS, Leopard, is Unix certified.
> > > >I'd imagine that the big reason that FreeBSD hasn't done this yet is: It 
> > > >costs a lot of money.
> > > 
> > > There was a thread on this a month or 3 ago;  might want to check the 
> > > archives.  I think the consensus came down to something like:  The 
> > > certification is largely irrelevant, self-serving to a couple vendors 
> > > that 
> > > sponsor it, and expensive, so  - why bother?
> > 
> > Sounds a little like way back when 'Crest" toothpaste used to adversised
> > that it was the only one accepted as an effective dentifrice by the
> > American Dental Association (I think that was the name they used) when
> > they were the only ones who had ever sought the credential and essentially
> > made up the category themselves.   After several years some other brand
> > finally did it too and then they all quit using it in their advertising.
> > 
> > So, probably this is only meaningful as long as Apple Spotted Cat OS is
> > the only one doing it.If someone else does it, then it won't be
> > worth anything to anyone.
> 
> I'm at least aware of the following Single UNIX Specification compliant
> OSes:
> 
>   AIX
>   Darwin[1]
>   HP-UX
>   MacOS X
>   OpenServer
>   Solaris
>   Tru64 Unix
>   UnixWare
>   UX/4800
>   z/OS

Wow.  I am surprised that so many have gone to the trouble, given
how many of those are proprietary and how little applicability it has.

jerry

> 
> [1]: I'm guessing about Darwin, as a subset of MacOS X that contains all
> the bits needed to make a complete Unix-like OS.  It may not be
> officially recognized as compliant.
> 
> Not all versions of all of those are compliant, of course, but they all
> have been or are currently (meaning, in some previous or current release
> version) certified SUS compliant.  There are quite a few "Enterprisey"
> corporate shops that put a lot of stock in SUS certification, so in terms
> of widespread adoption in business environments for server
> implementations, it's not something that "won't be worth anything to
> anyone".  Whether or not that means it's worth anything to FreeBSD is up
> for debate, I suppose.
> 
> I find myself wondering if the SUS is losing what technical value it may
> have once had.  The fact that MacOS X is certified kinda makes me even
> more suspicious of the value of the certification than I was already.
> 
> Of course, with the rate at which open source OSes like FreeBSD (and
> other BSD Unix systems, and of course Linux distributions) progress, one
> must wonder how SUS certification can even be practical in application in
> the open source world.  Certification takes time and money, and would
> need to be acquired anew for every release version (unless things change
> in regard to how certification is applied).  That seems a little outside
> the realm of reasonability.
> 
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Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[Chad Perrin]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 03:51:34PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 01:56:05PM -0400, Rob wrote:
> 
> > Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
> > >I recently noticed that Apple's new OS, Leopard, is Unix certified.
> > >I'd imagine that the big reason that FreeBSD hasn't done this yet is: It 
> > >costs a lot of money.
> > 
> > There was a thread on this a month or 3 ago;  might want to check the 
> > archives.  I think the consensus came down to something like:  The 
> > certification is largely irrelevant, self-serving to a couple vendors that 
> > sponsor it, and expensive, so  - why bother?
> 
> Sounds a little like way back when 'Crest" toothpaste used to adversised
> that it was the only one accepted as an effective dentifrice by the
> American Dental Association (I think that was the name they used) when
> they were the only ones who had ever sought the credential and essentially
> made up the category themselves.   After several years some other brand
> finally did it too and then they all quit using it in their advertising.
> 
> So, probably this is only meaningful as long as Apple Spotted Cat OS is
> the only one doing it.If someone else does it, then it won't be
> worth anything to anyone.

I'm at least aware of the following Single UNIX Specification compliant
OSes:

  AIX
  Darwin[1]
  HP-UX
  MacOS X
  OpenServer
  Solaris
  Tru64 Unix
  UnixWare
  UX/4800
  z/OS

[1]: I'm guessing about Darwin, as a subset of MacOS X that contains all
the bits needed to make a complete Unix-like OS.  It may not be
officially recognized as compliant.

Not all versions of all of those are compliant, of course, but they all
have been or are currently (meaning, in some previous or current release
version) certified SUS compliant.  There are quite a few "Enterprisey"
corporate shops that put a lot of stock in SUS certification, so in terms
of widespread adoption in business environments for server
implementations, it's not something that "won't be worth anything to
anyone".  Whether or not that means it's worth anything to FreeBSD is up
for debate, I suppose.

I find myself wondering if the SUS is losing what technical value it may
have once had.  The fact that MacOS X is certified kinda makes me even
more suspicious of the value of the certification than I was already.

Of course, with the rate at which open source OSes like FreeBSD (and
other BSD Unix systems, and of course Linux distributions) progress, one
must wonder how SUS certification can even be practical in application in
the open source world.  Certification takes time and money, and would
need to be acquired anew for every release version (unless things change
in regard to how certification is applied).  That seems a little outside
the realm of reasonability.

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Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[Jerry McAllister]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 01:56:05PM -0400, Rob wrote:

> Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
> >I recently noticed that Apple's new OS, Leopard, is Unix certified.
> >I'd imagine that the big reason that FreeBSD hasn't done this yet is: It 
> >costs a lot of money.
> 
> There was a thread on this a month or 3 ago;  might want to check the 
> archives.  I think the consensus came down to something like:  The 
> certification is largely irrelevant, self-serving to a couple vendors that 
> sponsor it, and expensive, so  - why bother?

Sounds a little like way back when 'Crest" toothpaste used to adversised
that it was the only one accepted as an effective dentifrice by the
American Dental Association (I think that was the name they used) when
they were the only ones who had ever sought the credential and essentially
made up the category themselves.   After several years some other brand
finally did it too and then they all quit using it in their advertising.

So, probably this is only meaningful as long as Apple Spotted Cat OS is
the only one doing it.If someone else does it, then it won't be
worth anything to anyone.

jerry

> 
>  -Rob
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Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[Erik Trulsson]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 01:39:53PM +, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
> > I recently noticed that Apple's new OS, Leopard, is Unix certified.
> 
> "UNIX Certified" what the [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ does that mean as far I know no 
> one is
> in a position to make such a statement except maybe the current owner of
> the Unix trademark (sco if I am not mistaken)

SCO has never owned the UNIX trademark.  The current owner of is The Open
Group, and they are indeed the ones that certify products as being officialy
'UNIX'.


> >
> > I'd imagine that the big reason that FreeBSD hasn't done this yet is:
> > It costs a lot of money.
> 
> And give SCO a reason to actually consolidate it's illegitimate claim to
> be the steward of Unix when there is no such thing beyond the holder of
> the trademark.
> >
> >
> > That said, if in theory one were to try to get the operating system
> > certified (say, to increase awareness and market share versus the
> > penguinistas)...
> >
> > a) approximately how much money is "a lot"?
> >
> > and
> >
> > b) How far short, technically, does FreeBSD fall from the standard
> > (we'll ignore operational semantics for the time being)
> 
>  MacOS-X is FreeBSD at it's core thus we are ready now (actually all
> that is required is POSIX complience)

MacOS X is partly based on FreeBSD, but they have also taken code from
several other places, as well as made a whole lot of changes themselves.
That MacOS X is UNIX-certifified says very little about how well FreeBSD
will do in that regard.


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Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Dan Mahoney, System Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I recently noticed that Apple's new OS, Leopard, is Unix certified.
>
> I'd imagine that the big reason that FreeBSD hasn't done this yet is:
> It costs a lot of money.

Yes, and has to be re-done regularly.

> That said, if in theory one were to try to get the operating system
> certified (say, to increase awareness and market share versus the
> penguinistas)...
>
> a) approximately how much money is "a lot"?

http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/Brandfees.htm

> and
>
> b) How far short, technically, does FreeBSD fall from the standard
> (we'll ignore operational semantics for the time being)

Compliance is an ongoing effort, but basically FreeBSD is pretty
close.  
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Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[Aryeh M. Friedman]

>
> Apparently The Open Group are in charge of UNIX certification - see
> http://www.opengroup.org/certification/ for details.

They have a very bad track record over the last 10-15 years,

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Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[Bruce Cran]

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:

I recently noticed that Apple's new OS, Leopard, is Unix certified.


"UNIX Certified" what the [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ does that mean as far I know no 
one is
in a position to make such a statement except maybe the current owner of
the Unix trademark (sco if I am not mistaken)

I'd imagine that the big reason that FreeBSD hasn't done this yet is:
It costs a lot of money.


Apparently The Open Group are in charge of UNIX certification - see 
http://www.opengroup.org/certification/ for details.


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And give SCO a reason to actually consolidate it's illegitimate claim to
be the steward of Unix when there is no such thing beyond the holder of
the trademark.


That said, if in theory one were to try to get the operating system
certified (say, to increase awareness and market share versus the
penguinistas)...

a) approximately how much money is "a lot"?

and

b) How far short, technically, does FreeBSD fall from the standard
(we'll ignore operational semantics for the time being)


 MacOS-X is FreeBSD at it's core thus we are ready now (actually all
that is required is POSIX complience)
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Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[John Webster]

--On Thursday, October 18, 2007 13:49:07 + "Aryeh M. Friedman" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:


>>> From here:
>> 
>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html#unix
>> 
>> Mac OS X is now a fully certified UNIX operating system, conforming to
>> both the Single UNIX Specification (SUSv3) and POSIX 1003.1. Deploy
>> Leopard in environments that demand full UNIX conformance and enjoy
>> expanded support for open standards popular in the UNIX community such
>> as the OASIS Open Document Format (ODF) or ECMAs Office XML.
> 
> This is complete and total fluff unless they say who certified it.   And
> no one has legit claim to be able to do that.








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Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[Rob]

Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:

I recently noticed that Apple's new OS, Leopard, is Unix certified.
I'd imagine that the big reason that FreeBSD hasn't done this yet is: It 
costs a lot of money.


There was a thread on this a month or 3 ago;  might want to check the archives. 
 I think the consensus came down to something like:  The certification is 
largely irrelevant, self-serving to a couple vendors that sponsor it, and 
expensive, so  - why bother?

 -Rob
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Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[Aryeh M. Friedman]

Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>
>> Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
>>> I recently noticed that Apple's new OS, Leopard, is Unix certified.
>>
>> "UNIX Certified" what the [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ does that mean as far I know no 
>> one is
>> in a position to make such a statement except maybe the current owner of
>> the Unix trademark (sco if I am not mistaken)
>
>> From here:
>
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html#unix
>
> Mac OS X is now a fully certified UNIX operating system, conforming to
> both the Single UNIX Specification (SUSv3) and POSIX 1003.1. Deploy
> Leopard in environments that demand full UNIX conformance and enjoy
> expanded support for open standards popular in the UNIX community such
> as the OASIS Open Document Format (ODF) or ECMAs Office XML.

This is complete and total fluff unless they say who certified it.   And
no one has legit claim to be able to do that.
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Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[Dan Mahoney, System Admin]

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:


Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:

I recently noticed that Apple's new OS, Leopard, is Unix certified.


"UNIX Certified" what the [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ does that mean as far I know no 
one is
in a position to make such a statement except maybe the current owner of
the Unix trademark (sco if I am not mistaken)



From here:


http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html#unix

Mac OS X is now a fully certified UNIX operating system, conforming to 
both the Single UNIX Specification (SUSv3) and POSIX 1003.1. Deploy 
Leopard in environments that demand full UNIX conformance and enjoy 
expanded support for open standards popular in the UNIX community such as 
the OASIS Open Document Format (ODF) or ECMAs Office XML.



I'd imagine that the big reason that FreeBSD hasn't done this yet is:
It costs a lot of money.


And give SCO a reason to actually consolidate it's illegitimate claim to
be the steward of Unix when there is no such thing beyond the holder of
the trademark.



That said, if in theory one were to try to get the operating system
certified (say, to increase awareness and market share versus the
penguinistas)...

a) approximately how much money is "a lot"?

and

b) How far short, technically, does FreeBSD fall from the standard
(we'll ignore operational semantics for the time being)


MacOS-X is FreeBSD at it's core thus we are ready now (actually all
that is required is POSIX complience)


Well, apple has also made changes to the OS in some ways, which was why I 
was asking.


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Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[Aryeh M. Friedman]

Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
> I recently noticed that Apple's new OS, Leopard, is Unix certified.

"UNIX Certified" what the [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ does that mean as far I know no 
one is
in a position to make such a statement except maybe the current owner of
the Unix trademark (sco if I am not mistaken)
>
> I'd imagine that the big reason that FreeBSD hasn't done this yet is:
> It costs a lot of money.

And give SCO a reason to actually consolidate it's illegitimate claim to
be the steward of Unix when there is no such thing beyond the holder of
the trademark.
>
>
> That said, if in theory one were to try to get the operating system
> certified (say, to increase awareness and market share versus the
> penguinistas)...
>
> a) approximately how much money is "a lot"?
>
> and
>
> b) How far short, technically, does FreeBSD fall from the standard
> (we'll ignore operational semantics for the time being)

 MacOS-X is FreeBSD at it's core thus we are ready now (actually all
that is required is POSIX complience)
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Two questions about UNIX(r) certification.

[Dan Mahoney, System Admin]

I recently noticed that Apple's new OS, Leopard, is Unix certified.

I'd imagine that the big reason that FreeBSD hasn't done this yet is: It 
costs a lot of money.


That said, if in theory one were to try to get the operating system 
certified (say, to increase awareness and market share versus the 
penguinistas)...


a) approximately how much money is "a lot"?

and

b) How far short, technically, does FreeBSD fall from the standard (we'll 
ignore operational semantics for the time being)


-Dan

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Re: two questions

[Kevin Kinsey]

RW wrote:


On Tuesday 06 December 2005 20:15, Efren Bravo wrote:
 


Hi,

-Is there a client to access to Informix Server
on freeBSD via PHP?
   



PHP has a set of functions for Informix; see:

   http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.ifx.php

--- so, in theory, you could "roll your own",
given the time and inclination.

However, that means that someone may have already
invented that particular wheel, and it seems it may
be so, as "Googling" for "PHP Informix Client" also
yields a number of results, some of which might
help.

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey

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Re: two questions

[RW]

On Tuesday 06 December 2005 20:15, Efren Bravo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> -Is there a client to access to Informix Server
> on freeBSD via PHP?
>
> -Where can I find information about rcNG scripts
> because I need to set priority on deamons' loads.

It's all based on PROVIDE, REQUIRE and  BEFORE, see rcorder(8).

Note that  local scripts are started from /etc/rc.d/localpkg in the order that 
the shell globbing gives.
  
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two questions

[Efren Bravo]

Hi,

-Is there a client to access to Informix Server
on freeBSD via PHP?

-Where can I find information about rcNG scripts
because I need to set priority on deamons' loads.

Thanks...

Efren Bravo.



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Re: two questions in one

[Bob Johnson]

On 9/19/05, steve lasiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> My web server is up and running well and I can test
> all by going to 192.168.0.2 from any internal
> workstation, but if I try to go to www.mywebsite.com
> from any internal workstation, which maps to the
> 66.190.xxx.xxx IP directed to web server port 80 as it
> should, my attempt will time out. If I run next door

Your gateway is probably not routing traffic out of your network and
back into it.  I.E. connections from your private IP numbers to your
public IP number will not work.

> to my buddies and hit it from his PC I get there just
> fine. I can't understand this since I'm using the
> www.mywebsite.com name instead of an IP address. It
> seems the gateway should not be affecting me, right?
> How do I get around this or solve it? I don't want to
> have to go next door everytime I need to make sure my
> site is accessible from the web.

Find an anonymizing web proxy service and use it to access your own web site.

- Bob
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RE: two questions in one

[Joshua Weaver]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Nørgaard
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:11 AM
> To: steve lasiter
> Cc: free bsd
> Subject: Re: two questions in one
> 
> steve lasiter wrote:
> > My web server is up and running well and I can test
> > all by going to 192.168.0.2 from any internal
> > workstation, but if I try to go to www.mywebsite.com
> > from any internal workstation, which maps to the
> > 66.190.xxx.xxx IP directed to web server port 80 as it
> > should, 

That’s the problem - you are using NAT, you can't "go out and come back in",
your packets will expire because they will not be routed back in, and that's
by design.   You need to set up an internal forward zone in your DNS to
direct requests to the internal address .To see what I am talking about,
trying pinging your website from the inside using the external address.  If
your router is set up appropriately, you should get a  'TTL expired'
message.

Set up an 'A' record for www in mywebsite.com on one of your internal boxes
to point to 192.168.0.2, and set up forwarders to your ISP's name servers on
this box.  Set all your internal hosts to use that machine for DNS requests,
and you will be good to go.

-Joshua Weaver

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Re: two questions in one

[Erik Nørgaard]

steve lasiter wrote:

My web server is up and running well and I can test
all by going to 192.168.0.2 from any internal
workstation, but if I try to go to www.mywebsite.com
from any internal workstation, which maps to the
66.190.xxx.xxx IP directed to web server port 80 as it
should, my attempt will time out. If I run next door
to my buddies and hit it from his PC I get there just
fine. I can't understand this since I'm using the
www.mywebsite.com name instead of an IP address. It
seems the gateway should not be affecting me, right?
How do I get around this or solve it? I don't want to
have to go next door everytime I need to make sure my
site is accessible from the web.


Sounds like a DNS lookup problem, check /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf 
on the different hosts and try to do host lookup on the different hosts.


If you get different ip then there you have it.


One other quick issue. When FTPing from within my LAN
it is horribly slow. It was fast after initial install
but something happened without my intervention. I've
tried two different servers, proftpd currently and
pureftp previously. If I ftp outside my LAN it's
lightning fast. Any ideas are appreciated.


You are ftp'ing LAN-Internet right? Are you sure that some other user is 
not sucking up your connection with p2p? On the gateway you can see 
which states are in the firewall, assuming you have a statefull firewall 
ruleset. Ntop on the gateway should be a great tool also.


Also, ftp and firewalls generally is troublesome, maybe you changed a 
rule in the firewall just a littlebit?


Cheers, Erik

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Re: two questions in one

[Peter Clutton]

On 9/20/05, steve lasiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> 
> My web server is up and running well and I can test
> all by going to 192.168.0.2  from any internal
> workstation, but if I try to go to www.mywebsite.com
> from any internal workstation, which maps to the
> 66.190.xxx.xxx IP directed to web server port 80 as it
> should, my attempt will time out. If I run next door
> to my buddies and hit it from his PC I get there just
> fine. 

  Sounds like your clients aren't set up correctly with DNS to me. Are they 
pointing to DNS server, is it serving?
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Re: two questions in one

[Peter Matulis]

--- steve lasiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



> My web server is up and running well and I can test
> all by going to 192.168.0.2 from any internal
> workstation, but if I try to go to www.mywebsite.com
> from any internal workstation, which maps to the
> 66.190.xxx.xxx IP directed to web server port 80 as it
> should, my attempt will time out.

How are you redirecting your requests?  It is probably
due to the fact that a TCP handshake is not being allowed
to complete because the server is responding to the client
but the client is is expecting a response from the firewall.
This is common in your arrangement.  Sniff traffic with
tcpdump on the various hosts and provide us with more
details.

> If I run next door
> to my buddies and hit it from his PC I get there just
> fine. I can't understand this since I'm using the
> www.mywebsite.com name instead of an IP address. It
> seems the gateway should not be affecting me, right?
> How do I get around this or solve it? I don't want to
> have to go next door everytime I need to make sure my
> site is accessible from the web.

Sign up for a free shell account on an internet-based
server.

> One other quick issue. When FTPing from within my LAN
> it is horribly slow. It was fast after initial install
> but something happened without my intervention. I've
> tried two different servers, proftpd currently and
> pureftp previously. If I ftp outside my LAN it's
> lightning fast. Any ideas are appreciated.

With the ifconfig utility, check the configuration of the
involved network adapters.  In particular, look for duplex
and half-duplex.

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two questions in one

[steve lasiter]

First let me say I've come a long way with the help of
this community. I now have my local network set up
with several servers, workstations, and firewall with
most  using FreeBSD 5.4. Now here's my current issues.
Maybe I can get input even if these are not so very
BSD specific.

My network consist of a FreeBSD gateway (192.168.0.1)
with two new nic cards, fxp0 to the internet(cable
modem) and fxp1 to my LAN via cisco switch. My
web/mail server is on 192.168.0.2 My static IP is
66.190.xxx.xxx 

My web server is up and running well and I can test
all by going to 192.168.0.2 from any internal
workstation, but if I try to go to www.mywebsite.com
from any internal workstation, which maps to the
66.190.xxx.xxx IP directed to web server port 80 as it
should, my attempt will time out. If I run next door
to my buddies and hit it from his PC I get there just
fine. I can't understand this since I'm using the
www.mywebsite.com name instead of an IP address. It
seems the gateway should not be affecting me, right?
How do I get around this or solve it? I don't want to
have to go next door everytime I need to make sure my
site is accessible from the web.

One other quick issue. When FTPing from within my LAN
it is horribly slow. It was fast after initial install
but something happened without my intervention. I've
tried two different servers, proftpd currently and
pureftp previously. If I ftp outside my LAN it's
lightning fast. Any ideas are appreciated.

Thanks to all again for the great work,

Steve Lasiter


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Re: Two Questions ( atapicam related and scheduler related)

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2004-10-18 16:21, Thomas Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I been following the progress of the 5.3 release and I thought they were
> changing the shceduler from SCHED_4BSD to SCHED_ULE?  Also I recently
> acquired a DVD+-RW and was wondering if I should stick with using burncd
> and growisfs with the standard /dev/acd0 or should I switch to using
> atapicam?  Is there any sort of a performance gain?  What are the
> advantages and disadvantages of both?

FYI,

Using burncd has been broken for me in -CURRENT since early June.  The
process reaches the stage of fixating, but then my kernel panics with a
message for `illegal phase'.

I didn't really *need* to write CD-ROMs until today, and I finally tried
atapicam with cdrecord.  It works like a charm here.

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Two Questions ( atapicam related and scheduler related)

[Thomas Moyer]

I been following the progress of the 5.3 release and I thought they were 
changing the shceduler from SCHED_4BSD to SCHED_ULE?  Also I recently 
acquired a DVD+-RW and was wondering if I should stick with using burncd 
and growisfs with the standard /dev/acd0 or should I switch to using 
atapicam?  Is there any sort of a performance gain?  What are the 
advantages and disadvantages of both?
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Re: two questions

[Hemal Pandya]

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 01:22:05 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
[]
>
> as requested...(standard shell and standard user)
>
> ~> mkdir test

Don't forget the leading hyphen. Try
~> mkdir -test
which will, of course, give you an error. then try
~> mkdir ./-test
and proceed as below...

> ~> rm ./-test
> rm: ./-test: No such file or directory
> ~> rm -- --test
> rm: --test: No such file or directory
> ~> rm -r test
> remove test? y
> ~> mkdir test
> ~> rm -rf test
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Re: two questions

[Hemal Pandya]

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 01:24:50 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
[snip]
> > > > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:06:29 -0400 (EDT), Michael Sharp
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
[snip]
> > > > >
> > > > > what is the command to remove the file "--directory"
> > > > >
[snip]
> 
> actually, *i* suggested using -r.  what i don't get is the dashes.  it
> works just fine without. ...at least for me. please see my last message.

-r is necessary if -directory is a _directory_. But OP said its a
_file_, in which case it is niether necessary nor harmful.
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Re: two questions

[Jeremy Faulkner]

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| Hemal Pandya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
|
|>On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:51:09 -0400, epilogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|>wrote:
|>
|>>On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:29:35 -0700
|>>Hemal Pandya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|>>
|>>
|>>>On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:06:29 -0400 (EDT), Michael Sharp
|>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|>>>
|I'm having a brain freeze tonight and apparently forgot some
|basic UNIX commands..
|
|what is the command to remove the file "--directory"
|
|rm *directory* = nope
|rm "*directory*" = nope
|rm \-\-\directory = nope
|rm -i * = nope and dosent even see the file
|>>>
|>>>rm ./-directory
|>>
|>>funny, though i tried these on a test directory...
|>>
|>>rm ./-test
|>>rm -- --test
|>>
|>>...neither worked for me.
|>
|>Thats very surprising. The fist option above has worked for ever and
|>the second at least for a decade or so. Can you post some output?
|>
|
|
| as requested...(standard shell and standard user)
|
| ~> mkdir test
| ~> rm ./-test
| rm: ./-test: No such file or directory
No surprise here. You don't have a file or directory named '-test', you
have one named 'test'.
| ~> rm -- --test
| rm: --test: No such file or directory
Ditto.
| ~> rm -r test
| remove test? y
| ~> mkdir test
| ~> rm -rf test
| ~>
mkdir -- -test
rm -r -- -test
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Re: two questions

[epilogue]

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:37:32 -0700
Hemal Pandya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:51:09 -0400, epilogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:29:35 -0700
> > Hemal Pandya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:06:29 -0400 (EDT), Michael Sharp
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm having a brain freeze tonight and apparently forgot some
> > > > basic UNIX commands..
> > > >
> > > > what is the command to remove the file "--directory"
> > > >
> > > > rm *directory* = nope
> > > > rm "*directory*" = nope
> > > > rm \-\-\directory = nope
> > > > rm -i * = nope and dosent even see the file
> > > rm ./-directory
> > 
> > funny, though i tried these on a test directory...
> > 
> > rm ./-test
> > rm -- --test
> > 
> > ...neither worked for me.  
> Thats very surprising. The fist option above has worked for ever and
> the second at least for a decade or so. Can you post some output?
> 

as requested...(standard shell and standard user)

~> mkdir test
~> rm ./-test
rm: ./-test: No such file or directory
~> rm -- --test
rm: --test: No such file or directory
~> rm -r test
remove test? y
~> mkdir test
~> rm -rf test
~> 


> > admittedly, both suggestions are new to me
> > and i'm likely 'misreading' the statements.  
> I should think so.
> 
> > anyhoo, i've always had
> > success deleting directories with:
> > 
> > rm -r
> > rm -rf   # if i'm lazy and want to save myself a 'y' and an 'enter', or
> > simply don't feel like being second guessed.   :)
> Neither of this would work by itself, because the file argument to rm
> is not optional. What argument would you pass?
> 

the directory in question.  thought that was obvious.  thought wrong.  heh.

> > 
> > epi
> > 
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Also, if I'm in / and want to tar the entire filesystem
> > > > EXCLUDING the
> > > > directory jail ( /jail ) what would be the switches to tar?
> > > >
> > > Lookup --exclude in man tar. You want :
> > > $ tar cvf file.tar --exclude jail .
> > 
> > 
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Re: two questions

[epilogue]

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 08:59:46 +0400
Sergey Zaharchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 11:51:09PM -0400,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] probably wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:29:35 -0700
> > Hemal Pandya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:06:29 -0400 (EDT), Michael Sharp
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I'm having a brain freeze tonight and apparently forgot some
> > > > basic UNIX commands..
> > > > 
> > > > what is the command to remove the file "--directory"
> > > > 
> > > > rm *directory* = nope
> > > > rm "*directory*" = nope
> > > > rm \-\-\directory = nope
> > > > rm -i * = nope and dosent even see the file
> > > rm ./-directory
> > 
> > funny, though i tried these on a test directory...
> > 
> > rm ./-test
> > rm -- --test
> > 
> 
> You're missing the -r:
> 
> $ rm -r -- --test

actually, *i* suggested using -r.  what i don't get is the dashes.  it
works just fine without. ...at least for me. please see my last message.

> 
> should work.
> 
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Re: two questions

[epilogue]

>On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 00:06, Michael Sharp wrote:
> what is the command to remove the file "--directory"

i missed the '--' in OP.  d'uh.
apologies to all for any confusion.

rm -- -foot_from_mouth
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Re: two questions

[Sergey Zaharchenko]

On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 11:51:09PM -0400,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] probably wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:29:35 -0700
> Hemal Pandya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:06:29 -0400 (EDT), Michael Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'm having a brain freeze tonight and apparently forgot some
> > > basic UNIX commands..
> > > 
> > > what is the command to remove the file "--directory"
> > > 
> > > rm *directory* = nope
> > > rm "*directory*" = nope
> > > rm \-\-\directory = nope
> > > rm -i * = nope and dosent even see the file
> > rm ./-directory
> 
> funny, though i tried these on a test directory...
> 
> rm ./-test
> rm -- --test
> 

You're missing the -r:

$ rm -r -- --test

should work.

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Re: two questions

[Hemal Pandya]

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:51:09 -0400, epilogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:29:35 -0700
> Hemal Pandya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:06:29 -0400 (EDT), Michael Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm having a brain freeze tonight and apparently forgot some
> > > basic UNIX commands..
> > >
> > > what is the command to remove the file "--directory"
> > >
> > > rm *directory* = nope
> > > rm "*directory*" = nope
> > > rm \-\-\directory = nope
> > > rm -i * = nope and dosent even see the file
> > rm ./-directory
> 
> funny, though i tried these on a test directory...
> 
> rm ./-test
> rm -- --test
> 
> ...neither worked for me.  
Thats very surprising. The fist option above has worked for ever and
the second at least for a decade or so. Can you post some output?

> admittedly, both suggestions are new to me
> and i'm likely 'misreading' the statements.  
I should think so.

> anyhoo, i've always had
> success deleting directories with:
> 
> rm -r
> rm -rf   # if i'm lazy and want to save myself a 'y' and an 'enter', or
> simply don't feel like being second guessed.   :)
Neither of this would work by itself, because the file argument to rm
is not optional. What argument would you pass?

> 
> epi
> 
> >
> > >
> > > Also, if I'm in / and want to tar the entire filesystem
> > > EXCLUDING the
> > > directory jail ( /jail ) what would be the switches to tar?
> > >
> > Lookup --exclude in man tar. You want :
> > $ tar cvf file.tar --exclude jail .
> 
> 
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Re: two questions

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:29:35 -0700
Hemal Pandya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:06:29 -0400 (EDT), Michael Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> > I'm having a brain freeze tonight and apparently forgot some
> > basic UNIX commands..
> > 
> > what is the command to remove the file "--directory"
> > 
> > rm *directory* = nope
> > rm "*directory*" = nope
> > rm \-\-\directory = nope
> > rm -i * = nope and dosent even see the file
> rm ./-directory

funny, though i tried these on a test directory...

rm ./-test
rm -- --test

...neither worked for me.  admittedly, both suggestions are new to me
and i'm likely 'misreading' the statements.  anyhoo, i've always had
success deleting directories with:

rm -r
rm -rf   # if i'm lazy and want to save myself a 'y' and an 'enter', or
simply don't feel like being second guessed.   :)


epi

> 
> > 
> > Also, if I'm in / and want to tar the entire filesystem
> > EXCLUDING the
> > directory jail ( /jail ) what would be the switches to tar?
> > 
> Lookup --exclude in man tar. You want :
> $ tar cvf file.tar --exclude jail .
> > Dana
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Re: two questions

[Hemal Pandya]

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:06:29 -0400 (EDT), Michael Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I'm having a brain freeze tonight and apparently forgot some
> basic UNIX commands..
> 
> what is the command to remove the file "--directory"
> 
> rm *directory* = nope
> rm "*directory*" = nope
> rm \-\-\directory = nope
> rm -i * = nope and dosent even see the file
rm ./-directory

> 
> Also, if I'm in / and want to tar the entire filesystem
> EXCLUDING the
> directory jail ( /jail ) what would be the switches to tar?
> 
Lookup --exclude in man tar. You want :
$ tar cvf file.tar --exclude jail .
> Dana
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Re: two questions

[Mark Teel]

Here is a script I use to backup my linux system:
#!/bin/sh
MEDIUM=/mnt/dmzserv/share/mark/BACKUP/webserver
echo "Creating system backup on $MEDIUM as dmz2-sys-backup-.tar.gz..."
tar -zcvpf $MEDIUM/dmz2-sys-backup-`date '+%d-%B-%Y'`.tar.gz \
   --directory / --exclude=mnt --exclude=proc --exclude=share .
echo "...done"
This creates a system backup starting in "/", excluding mnt, proc and 
share, with the file name including the date.

MST
Michael Sharp wrote:
I'm having a brain freeze tonight and apparently forgot some
basic UNIX commands..
what is the command to remove the file "--directory"
rm *directory* = nope
rm "*directory*" = nope
rm \-\-\directory = nope
rm -i * = nope and dosent even see the file
Also, if I'm in / and want to tar the entire filesystem
EXCLUDING the
directory jail ( /jail ) what would be the switches to tar?
Dana
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Re: two questions

[Augusto Jun Devegili]

On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 00:06, Michael Sharp wrote:
> I'm having a brain freeze tonight and apparently forgot some
> basic UNIX commands..
> 
> what is the command to remove the file "--directory"
> 
> rm *directory* = nope
> rm "*directory*" = nope
> rm \-\-\directory = nope
> rm -i * = nope and dosent even see the file

rm -- --directory

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two questions

[Michael Sharp]

I'm having a brain freeze tonight and apparently forgot some
basic UNIX commands..

what is the command to remove the file "--directory"

rm *directory* = nope
rm "*directory*" = nope
rm \-\-\directory = nope
rm -i * = nope and dosent even see the file

Also, if I'm in / and want to tar the entire filesystem
EXCLUDING the
directory jail ( /jail ) what would be the switches to tar?

Dana

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Re: two questions,

[Jonathan T. Sage]

Simon Barner wrote:

Just a guess: Are that your second CPU isn't idle?
   ^
  you sure
I forgot to mention one thing:

Some apps might not build correctly when using make's -j switch
(due to bad makefiles and/or dependency information).
Simon
It is also generally a very good idea to NOT use the -j switch when 
installing, particularly "make installworld" (last time i checked)

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Re: two questions,

[Simon Barner]

> Just a guess: Are that your second CPU isn't idle?
   ^
  you sure

I forgot to mention one thing:

Some apps might not build correctly when using make's -j switch
(due to bad makefiles and/or dependency information).

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Re: two questions,

[Simon Barner]

> I've gotten cvsup working correctly. It is following
> 5_1_RELENG and "." for ports. I want to do a daily
> check using crontabs and have created one under root.
> However, my daily mail says that it can't find cvsup.
> IS this just a simple fix by putting in the full path
> or am I missing something?

Yes, probably. Why don't you give it a shot?
 
> Second,
>   I was following the portupgrade tutorial for
> upgrading your installed ports at onlamp. 
> 
> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html
> 
> I ran "portupgrade -arR" about 9pm on Thursday. It is
> now 5pm on Friday and it's STILL running.
>  My box isn't the fastest on the block, but it is a
> Dual P2 300 (running SMP) with 256 megs of RAM and am
> running X , Apache2, and PHP aside from the standard
> setup/
>  I guess my question is more a concern in that I
> inadvertantly installed ALL the ports in the
> collection. Did I? Manning portupgrade, the -a says
> "upgrade all INSTALLED" with the "r"'s being forward
> and backwards recursive, but 20 hours?

Well, that depends which and how many ports you have installed on your
box. I have a 400Mhz K6-III here, and updating Gnome 2.4 to 2.5 took me
more that half a day of CPU-time (there were also some other ports that
got updated). If you have a lot of ports installed of which quite a lot
are outdated, it might indeed take a while until portupgrade is
finished.

You can post a list of installed ports if you are unsure.

Just a guess: Are that your second CPU isn't idle? It is possible to have `make'
execute multiple jobs simultaneously (with the -j parameter). To make this
the default, you should add the following line to /etc/make.conf

MAKE_ARGS=-j N

where N is the number of (compilation, assembly, ...) jobs, that are
started concurrently. For your dual processor system, I'd recommend N=2
or N=4 (having more processes than CPUs can speed up non-CPU bound, jobs
given that your I/O system is fast enough).

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Re: two questions,

[Scott W]

Gary Lum wrote:

I have two questions, the first regarding CVSup and
cron jobs, the second about port upgrade.
I've gotten cvsup working correctly. It is following
5_1_RELENG and "." for ports. I want to do a daily
check using crontabs and have created one under root.
However, my daily mail says that it can't find cvsup.
IS this just a simple fix by putting in the full path
or am I missing something?
 

cron jobs generally need their PATH set explicitly, as I don't believe 
they source even /etc/profileso it's always a good idea to use 
explicit pathnames...

Second,
 I was following the portupgrade tutorial for
upgrading your installed ports at onlamp. 

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html

I ran "portupgrade -arR" about 9pm on Thursday. It is
now 5pm on Friday and it's STILL running.
My box isn't the fastest on the block, but it is a
Dual P2 300 (running SMP) with 256 megs of RAM and am
running X , Apache2, and PHP aside from the standard
setup/
I guess my question is more a concern in that I
inadvertantly installed ALL the ports in the
collection. Did I? Manning portupgrade, the -a says
"upgrade all INSTALLED" with the "r"'s being forward
and backwards recursive, but 20 hours?
 

Highly possible if you have software like X and OpenOffice installed

Scott

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two questions,

[Gary Lum]

I have two questions, the first regarding CVSup and
cron jobs, the second about port upgrade.

I've gotten cvsup working correctly. It is following
5_1_RELENG and "." for ports. I want to do a daily
check using crontabs and have created one under root.
However, my daily mail says that it can't find cvsup.
IS this just a simple fix by putting in the full path
or am I missing something?

Second,
  I was following the portupgrade tutorial for
upgrading your installed ports at onlamp. 

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html

I ran "portupgrade -arR" about 9pm on Thursday. It is
now 5pm on Friday and it's STILL running.
 My box isn't the fastest on the block, but it is a
Dual P2 300 (running SMP) with 256 megs of RAM and am
running X , Apache2, and PHP aside from the standard
setup/
 I guess my question is more a concern in that I
inadvertantly installed ALL the ports in the
collection. Did I? Manning portupgrade, the -a says
"upgrade all INSTALLED" with the "r"'s being forward
and backwards recursive, but 20 hours?


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Re: Two questions: WLAN and FBSD Bootloader

[Jud]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 23:47:39 +, Andrew Humphries 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]
2. My second problem, which isn't really a great problem (more of a
vanity thing really), is with the FreeBSD boot loader. On boot the
loader looks like this:
F1   ???
F2   FreeBSD
Default: F2

Now thats all fine and dandy, except the other OS on my hard drive is
Windows XP Professional. How do I alter the boot loader to reflect F1 as
being WinXP? I've read the man-page for boot0cfg and it doesn't appear
to offer what I need, moreover I see no point in fiddling with the
existing configuration of the slices. As I said, its mainly vanity.
I hope that someone will be able to answer my questions, many thanks in
advance,
See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#CHANGING-BOOTPROMPT>.  
If you would like to have WinXP named in the boot menu, you have several 
alternatives.  Section 9.10 of the same FAQ tells you how to use XP's 
bootloader to boot both XP and FreeBSD.  Or you can install Grub from the 
FreeBSD ports (Grub is very nice - read the online documentation 
*thoroughly* beforehand).  Or for something more automagic, try GAG.

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Two questions: WLAN and FBSD Bootloader

[Andrew Humphries]

Okay, pardon me for doing this folks but rather than have two separate
e-mails I figured I might as well place both points in here that I am
having trouble with.

1. I run FreeBSD 4.8 on my laptop, very nicely I might add. Its on my
home network via 802.11b with the router utilising DHCP. Unfortunately,
I have to manually control the wireless device every time I boot up and
login so that it comes back onto the network, I assume this is because I
am doing something wrong that doesn't allow for DHCP. In my rc.conf I
have the line:

ifconfig_wi0="ssid WLAN"

This works fine, on boot it is clearly scanning on that WLAN but it just
isn't locking onto channel 11 and associating, as it should. So
everytime I login I have to type dhclient wi0. Now, I've tried to add
something along these lines into the rc.conf, such as:

dhclient="wi0"

and 

dhclient_wi0="YES

But to no avail. Can anyone point me to where I am going wrong and
perhaps show me the light?

2. My second problem, which isn't really a great problem (more of a
vanity thing really), is with the FreeBSD boot loader. On boot the
loader looks like this:

F1   ???
F2   FreeBSD

Default: F2

Now thats all fine and dandy, except the other OS on my hard drive is
Windows XP Professional. How do I alter the boot loader to reflect F1 as
being WinXP? I've read the man-page for boot0cfg and it doesn't appear
to offer what I need, moreover I see no point in fiddling with the
existing configuration of the slices. As I said, its mainly vanity.

I hope that someone will be able to answer my questions, many thanks in
advance,

Regards,

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Re: Two Questions

[Joshua Oreman]

[Please read http://www.lemis.com/email/questions.html]
[In particular: wrap lines at 72-chars or so, ask only
 one question per email, and put on a meaningful subject.]

On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 12:13:15PM -0400 or thereabouts, Ben Shin seemed to write:
> 1.  I use booteasy to allow me to boot between FreeBSD and Win 2k.
> However, the boot menu has "??" when referring to Win 2k.  Is there
> any way I can configure booteasy so that it'll display "Windows 2000"?

No, there's not.

?? = 2 bytes long
Windows 2000 = 12 bytes long

Not unless you want to try and find space to delete 10 bytes of code in
booteasy :-) Booteasy is only allowed to take up 446 bytes on your hard
drive, and it's just about maxed out. Making "??" longer will push it
over the limit. It actually uses "??" to mean "some partition type I
don't know about", so modifying that will make every partition other
than FreeBSD say "Windows 2000". Or you could add code to differentiate
some more, but as I said, that would push it over the limit :-)

If you want "Windows 2000", use another bootmgr, such as grub.

> 
> 2.  Whenever KDE starts, the GNOME top menu and bottom slide bar
> comes up.  It is quite annoying.  Is there anyway to stop that from
> happening?

Check your ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession for any lines containing
'gnome-session'; remove them.

-- Josh

> 
> Thanks alot in advance.
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Two Questions

[Ben Shin]

1.  I use booteasy to allow me to boot between FreeBSD and Win 2k.  However, the boot 
menu has "??" when referring to Win 2k.  Is there any way I can configure booteasy so 
that it'll display "Windows 2000"?

2.  Whenever KDE starts, the GNOME top menu and bottom slide bar comes up.  It is 
quite annoying.  Is there anyway to stop that from happening?

Thanks alot in advance.
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Two questions (local network and system logs)

[Man Alive]

Hello all,

I am setting up a local mail network with no outside connection, just
users on local network emailing each other - can postfix be set up to
do this? I have no registered domain name, so how do I define
domain/host/origin? I have had trouble finding website that explains
how to set up an unconnected mail network with no registered domain
names. If you could explain how to set up these names (a sample
configuration) or point me to the website that helps me to set it up,
I would appreciate it very much.

Secondly, what is the best way to mail all system logs to root mailbox
before they are rotated? Are there any ports that can do that? Or
if better, which is recommended - using "crontab -e" or setting up a
shell script? Again, either website or sample configuration/script
would help me tremendously.

Best regards,

Jonas
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Two questions about Screensavers and KDE

[Dragoncrest]

	Ok, these will probubly seem stupid, but I'm gonna ask them anyways.

1.  Where's a good site to download lots of good quality screensavers for KDE?
2.  How the heck do you install Screen Savers into KDE?
	I've installed one and it said that it installed when I did the make 
install, but I can't find it anywhere in my KDE menu.  Any comments or 
ideas would be gratefully welcome.  Thanks.

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