Re: ionice in FreeBSD?

2010-02-08 Thread Michael Vince

On 3/02/2010 10:52 PM, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:

On 02/03/2010 12:12 PM, Bruce Simpson wrote:

On 02/02/2010 17:19, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:


In FreeBSD we've nice(1), renice(8) and even rtprio, idprio(1) but if
I'm understanding correctly, they're related to CPU priorty only, not
to I/O.


That's not entirely true.

A thread's CPU priority is still going to affect its ability to be
scheduled on the CPU, and if it's waiting in the read() or write()
syscalls, then this will make a difference to how quickly it can
complete the next call.


Yes. I've already supposed it.


However, it doesn't explicitly affect relative I/O prioritization. This
is another story entirely. I suspect in a lot of cases adding a weight
to per thread I/O, isn't going to make much difference for disk I/Os
which are being sorted for the geometry (e.g. AHCI NCQ).

So I guess my question is, 'why do you need I/O scheduling, and what
aspect of system performance are you trying to solve with it' ?


Some shell-scripts based on dd or rsync, for example. Even a daily 
antivirus (ClamAV) scanner means an extensive I/O.


Programs like Rsync do provide --bwlimit= which work great in slowing it 
down to a desired level.


I can't help but think every program that can use too much IO should 
have it's own IO/speed switch of some sort.
I can only hope that in general nix evolution that all programs that can 
over use IO will offer a switch to slow it down like Rsync does.


Using a while ionice can be a useful feature it can also be said that 
there are too many instances where it's being used as a hack to deal 
with a program that isn't offering all the functionality that it should.


Cheers,
Mike


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Re: how to get more logging from GEOM?

2008-07-11 Thread Vince Hoffman
Jo Rhett wrote:
 About 10 days ago one of my personal machines started hanging at
 random.  This is the first bit of instability I've ever experienced on
 this machine (2+ years running)
 
 FreeBSD triceratops.netconsonance.com 6.2-RELEASE-p11 FreeBSD
 6.2-RELEASE-p11 #0: Wed Feb 13 06:44:57 UTC 2008
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
 
 After about 2 weeks of watching it carefully I've learned almost
 nothing.  It's not a disk failure (AFAIK) it's not cpu overheat (now
 running healthd without complaints) it's not based on any given network
 traffic...  however it does appear to accompany heavy cpu/disk
 activity.  It usually dies when indexing my websites at night (but not
 always) and it sometimes dies when compiling programs.   Just heavy disk
 isn't enough to do the job, as backups proceed without problems.   Heavy
 cpu by itself isn't enough to do it either.  But if I start compiling
 things and keep going a while, it will eventually hang.
 
 My best guess is that geom is having a problem and locking up.  There's
 no log entry before failure to back this idea up, but I think this
 because during boot I see the following:
 
 ad0: 286168MB Seagate ST3300622A 3.AAH at ata0-master UDMA100
 GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0 created (id=575427344).
 GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad0 detected.
 ad1: 286168MB Seagate ST3300622A 3.AAH at ata0-slave UDMA100
 GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad1 detected.
 GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad1 activated.
 GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider mirror/gm0 launched.
 GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: rebuilding provider ad0.
 
 Every time it is rebuilding ad0.   Every single boot in the last two weeks.
 
 Is this any way to get more logging from geom, to confirm or deny this
 theory?
Just a guess but try kern.geom.debugflags  0
This certainly spews out far more geom info, as to how helpful this will
be...


Vince


 
 Is there anything else I should be looking at?
 
 FWIW, this never happened before the p11 patch to 6.2.   I don't know if
 that is related or not.
 
 Obviously, I can't upgrade to 6.3 if heavy cpu/disk activity kills the
 system.
 
 No, I don't have any other insights.  I'm not prone to posting duh help
 me please! posts, so I'm quite a bit frustrated by this one.
 

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Re: Automounting USB sticks - questions

2008-05-11 Thread Vince Hoffman

Bruce M Simpson wrote:

I got this working quite easily with the amd daemon.
Thanks to Alfred for your excellent work on this.  I wonder what the 
status of autofs is?


It would be great if we could ship FreeBSD out of the box, ready to 
automount removable media. This would be useful to all users, but 
particularly for novices and people who just wanna get on and use the 
beast.


Since the move to /media for a place to put removable mount points I'd 
imagine all of this gets a lot easier.


However I can understand there are real issues with this:

* /etc/amd.conf. We don't ship one in /etc by default. Maybe we should?

Speaking as someone who's never looked at amd before last week, this 
would be great, or at least in /usr/share/examples/etc.


* /etc/amd.map. We ship one which contains defaults and nothing more. 
Perhaps commented out examples?


Again I'd find that helpful. I spent 5 or 10 minutes looking into 
setting up amd (Hardly indepth I know) and gave up because at the moment 
its easier to manually mount my devices ;)


* There doesn't appear to be a tool to tell amd about new maps at 
runtime. Is there such a beast?
  UPDATE: I just read code, and it seems SIGHUP can be sent, but this 
isn't in the man page and I haven't tried it.


* devd doesn't have any hooks into GEOM, which makes it difficult to 
generate mount lines without retroactively parsing dmesg output. devd as 
I understand it sits on top of NEWBUS.
   Is there any way I can get a list of the disk devices, from userland, 
in the default install, which correspond to a given NEWBUS device?


* I wonder if there's any way we can get a notification about media 
being inserted into a CDROM drive, without polling it?




I had a brief discussion online with phk@ about doing dynamic mounts, 
and it seems that there are still problems dealing with blowing away 
mounts when the device goes away.




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Re: ZFS deadlock

2008-04-08 Thread Vince

It depends a lot on your workload I'd say.
for me its pretty stable on a amd64 7-STABLE box that just does a little 
light mail and web and package building.

for others not so much.

info on my system below if anyones interested.

Vince

(20:12:28 /usr/home/jhary) 0 $ more /boot/loader.conf
geom_mirror_load=YES
vm.kmem_size=768M
vm.kmem_size_max=768M
snd_emu10k1_load=YES
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(20:12:39 /usr/home/jhary) 0 $ uptime
 8:12PM  up 13 days, 19:16, 5 users, load averages: 1.21, 0.86, 0.44
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(20:12:50 /usr/home/jhary) 0 $ zfs list
NAME   USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
data   164G  64.8G18K  /data
data/usr   163G  64.8G   163G  /usr
data/var   306M  64.8G   306M  /var
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(20:13:00 /usr/home/jhary) 0 $ zpool status
  pool: data
 state: ONLINE
 scrub: none requested
config:

NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM
dataONLINE   0 0 0
  mirrorONLINE   0 0 0
ad6s2   ONLINE   0 0 0
ad4s2   ONLINE   0 0 0

errors: No known data errors

relevent bits from dmesg:

CPU: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 242 (1594.18-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = AuthenticAMD  Id = 0xf5a  Stepping = 10

Features=0x78bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2
  AMD Features=0xe0500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+,LM,3DNow!+,3DNow!
usable memory = 3210489856 (3061 MB)
avail memory  = 3103461376 (2959 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: A M I  OEMAPIC 
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1









Jisakiel wrote:
¿So no chances of ZFS stable on FBSD7? I was actually considering debian over freebsd on a dual AMD64, but if there are no settings that will make it stable... Nevertheless I'd be willing to help debugging ZFS on that machine (Dell T105) as soon as I receive it in a couple of weeks, as I'm in no rush to getting it into production (just tell me what to do ;) ).  


- Mensaje original 
De: Spike Ilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: Ender [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Johan Ström [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
Enviado: martes, 8 de abril, 2008 18:13:32
Asunto: Re: ZFS deadlock

Depending on  your work load you are just buying more time, so 
reasonable is a matter of perspective. :(  I didn't see if you said 
you are on 32bit or 64bit? Keep in mind the kmem max is 1.5-2G on amd64 
regardless of how much memory you have. If 512M arcsize crashes too soon 
for your tastes you can always lower it down to 256M, or 128M, etc.


I tried for several weeks to get ZFS stable on a 64bit system with a 
1.5G kernel.  The best uptime I ever got was 72 hours, the worst was 2, 
the average about 24.  Interestingly, most of the hangs were at off 
hours, when the system was lightly loaded, had lots of free memory, etc. 
  That suggests to me a slow leak of some sort.


Anyway, ZFS is not ready for production.  Some people may get lucky, but 
  you can't count on it.


Spike
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Re: QA on textdumps (fwd)

2008-04-03 Thread Vince Hoffman
Norberto Meijome wrote:
 On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 21:51:52 +0200
 Volker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 while the system is experiencing a panic, it does not have any knowledge
 about filesystems and also does not know about the GELI swap space anymore.

 In this situation the geli encrypted swap will be overwritten by a dump
 (either minidump or the classical one). When the system boots up again,
 it will check $dumpdev for a dump and save it to $savecore before geli
 swap is brought up again.

 Or in short: geli backed swap should not do you any harm.
 
 Hi Volker,
 That is what I had thought. But I clearly remember, back in 6.x the dump 
 would be written to swap, then on restart, geli would kick in before savedump 
 , therefore obliterating anything saved from the previous session.
 
 I will need to retest this...luckily 7-STABLE has been rock solid and haven't 
 experienced many crashes.
 
 btw, how do I trigger a panic manually? :D
 
sysctl debug.kdb.panic=1
according to
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-online-ddb.html
anyway :)


Vince


 cheers,
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Re: Panic with usb serial

2008-04-02 Thread Vince Hoffman
Kostik Belousov wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:55:19AM +0100, Vince Hoffman wrote:
 Kostik Belousov wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:13:31PM +0100, Vince Hoffman wrote:
 Kostik Belousov wrote:
 Compile the ddb into the kernel (instructions are provided at the same
 web page) and post the output of the console on the panic
 I tried this but other than the fact I can drop into ddb and step though
 stuff I'm not sure what I can do with it. Since I cant (obviously) get a
 serial console on my laptop I have done it the other way and taken a
 picture of the console on panic. When I have more time I'll carry on
 reading up on ddb but I think I have a steep learning curve since my
 previous looks at programing stopped at 'hello world':)
 Panic console at:
 http://unsane.co.uk/~jhary/freebsd/IMAGE_119.jpg
 
 Thanks, this is enough. Two chunks were missed from the rev. 1.210.
 Please, try the patch below.
 
 diff --git a/sys/kern/kern_conf.c b/sys/kern/kern_conf.c
 index 843498e..7e6e048 100644
 --- a/sys/kern/kern_conf.c
 +++ b/sys/kern/kern_conf.c
 @@ -402,8 +402,7 @@ giant_ioctl(struct cdev *dev, u_long cmd, caddr_t data, 
 int fflag, struct thread
   if (dsw == NULL)
   return (ENXIO);
   mtx_lock(Giant);
 - retval = dev-si_devsw-d_gianttrick-
 - d_ioctl(dev, cmd, data, fflag, td);
 + retval = dsw-d_gianttrick-d_ioctl(dev, cmd, data, fflag, td);
   mtx_unlock(Giant);
   dev_relthread(dev);
   return (retval);
 @@ -419,8 +418,7 @@ giant_read(struct cdev *dev, struct uio *uio, int ioflag)
   if (dsw == NULL)
   return (ENXIO);
   mtx_lock(Giant);
 - retval = dev-si_devsw-d_gianttrick-
 - d_read(dev, uio, ioflag);
 + retval = dsw-d_gianttrick-d_read(dev, uio, ioflag);
   mtx_unlock(Giant);
   dev_relthread(dev);
   return (retval);

Hi Kostik,
Yes this stops the panic. I do still get the console spammed with
informational messages

Apr  2 10:36:30 prawn kernel: ucom0: FTDI usb serial converter, class
0/0, rev 1.10/4.00, addr 3 on uhub2
Apr  2 10:36:33 prawn login: ROOT LOGIN (toor) ON ttyv0
Apr  2 10:36:56 prawn kernel: ucom0: ucomreadcb: IOERROR
Apr  2 10:36:56 prawn kernel: ucom0: at uhub2 port 1 (addr 3) disconnected
Apr  2 10:36:57 prawn kernel: Still 4294967295 threads in ttyU0
Apr  2 10:37:16 prawn last message repeated 188 times
Apr  2 10:37:16 prawn login: ROOT LOGIN (toor) ON ttyv1
Apr  2 10:37:16 prawn kernel: Still 4294967295 threads in ttyU0
Apr  2 10:37:47 prawn last message repeated 303 times
Apr  2 10:37:55 prawn last message repeated 85 times


but I can live with that.

I had opened PR usb/122287 for this, and I have updated this with the
relevent information from this thread.

Thanks,
Vince


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Re: Panic with usb serial

2008-04-02 Thread Vince Hoffman
Kostik Belousov wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 10:50:39AM +0100, Vince Hoffman wrote:
 Kostik Belousov wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:55:19AM +0100, Vince Hoffman wrote:
 Kostik Belousov wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:13:31PM +0100, Vince Hoffman wrote:
 Kostik Belousov wrote:
 Compile the ddb into the kernel (instructions are provided at the same
 web page) and post the output of the console on the panic
 I tried this but other than the fact I can drop into ddb and step though
 stuff I'm not sure what I can do with it. Since I cant (obviously) get a
 serial console on my laptop I have done it the other way and taken a
 picture of the console on panic. When I have more time I'll carry on
 reading up on ddb but I think I have a steep learning curve since my
 previous looks at programing stopped at 'hello world':)
 Panic console at:
 http://unsane.co.uk/~jhary/freebsd/IMAGE_119.jpg
 Thanks, this is enough. Two chunks were missed from the rev. 1.210.
 Please, try the patch below.

 diff --git a/sys/kern/kern_conf.c b/sys/kern/kern_conf.c
 index 843498e..7e6e048 100644
 --- a/sys/kern/kern_conf.c
 +++ b/sys/kern/kern_conf.c
 @@ -402,8 +402,7 @@ giant_ioctl(struct cdev *dev, u_long cmd, caddr_t data, 
 int fflag, struct thread
 if (dsw == NULL)
 return (ENXIO);
 mtx_lock(Giant);
 -   retval = dev-si_devsw-d_gianttrick-
 -   d_ioctl(dev, cmd, data, fflag, td);
 +   retval = dsw-d_gianttrick-d_ioctl(dev, cmd, data, fflag, td);
 mtx_unlock(Giant);
 dev_relthread(dev);
 return (retval);
 @@ -419,8 +418,7 @@ giant_read(struct cdev *dev, struct uio *uio, int 
 ioflag)
 if (dsw == NULL)
 return (ENXIO);
 mtx_lock(Giant);
 -   retval = dev-si_devsw-d_gianttrick-
 -   d_read(dev, uio, ioflag);
 +   retval = dsw-d_gianttrick-d_read(dev, uio, ioflag);
 mtx_unlock(Giant);
 dev_relthread(dev);
 return (retval);
 Hi Kostik,
  Yes this stops the panic. I do still get the console spammed with
 informational messages

 Apr  2 10:36:30 prawn kernel: ucom0: FTDI usb serial converter, class
 0/0, rev 1.10/4.00, addr 3 on uhub2
 Apr  2 10:36:33 prawn login: ROOT LOGIN (toor) ON ttyv0
 Apr  2 10:36:56 prawn kernel: ucom0: ucomreadcb: IOERROR
 Apr  2 10:36:56 prawn kernel: ucom0: at uhub2 port 1 (addr 3) disconnected
 Apr  2 10:36:57 prawn kernel: Still 4294967295 threads in ttyU0
 Apr  2 10:37:16 prawn last message repeated 188 times
 Apr  2 10:37:16 prawn login: ROOT LOGIN (toor) ON ttyv1
 Apr  2 10:37:16 prawn kernel: Still 4294967295 threads in ttyU0
 Apr  2 10:37:47 prawn last message repeated 303 times
 Apr  2 10:37:55 prawn last message repeated 85 times


 but I can live with that.

 I had opened PR usb/122287 for this, and I have updated this with the
 relevent information from this thread.
 
 I committed the fix to the HEAD. I tested the patch with the uark(4)
 cable, and simply running the tip over the ttyU0 did not produced the
 Still -1 threads in ttyU0 message. Are you running tip, or something
 else over the port ?
 
Just tip.
[~](12:30:32)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] usb0 /etc/remote
usb0:dv=/dev/ttyU0:br#9600:pa=none:

then

[~](12:31:20)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] usb0
connected

Router

then unplugged the usb adapter


Vince
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Re: Panic with usb serial

2008-04-01 Thread Vince Hoffman
Kostik Belousov wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:13:31PM +0100, Vince Hoffman wrote:
 Kostik Belousov wrote:

 Compile the ddb into the kernel (instructions are provided at the same
 web page) and post the output of the console on the panic

I tried this but other than the fact I can drop into ddb and step though
stuff I'm not sure what I can do with it. Since I cant (obviously) get a
serial console on my laptop I have done it the other way and taken a
picture of the console on panic. When I have more time I'll carry on
reading up on ddb but I think I have a steep learning curve since my
previous looks at programing stopped at 'hello world':)
Panic console at:
http://unsane.co.uk/~jhary/freebsd/IMAGE_119.jpg


Vince

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Re: Panic with usb serial

2008-03-31 Thread Vince Hoffman
Marcin Cieslak wrote:
 Vince wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 
 Regarding the USB serial adapter, I was supplied it though work a while
 back. I believe from my rather fuzzy memory we got it though these guys
 http://www.usbnow.co.uk/Cables-USB_to_RS232_Cables/c1_23/index.html
 Although I wouldn't swear to it. I'll have an ask if anyone remembers on
 monday.
 
 Can you post a fragment of dmesg output? I am interested whether you
 attach it to the ohci or uhci controller.
 
 --Marcin
 

Sure,
Please not this is now a different usb adapter as I left mine at home :(
but I just tested and it exhibits the same behavior, (only difference I
can see is this says its FIDI while my one says its FTDI, possibly a typo?)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] | grep uhub
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb0
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb2
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb3
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb4
uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
umass0: DATAST0R Technology Corp SATA8000 FW1.0, class 0/0, rev
2.00/0.01, addr 2 on uhub4
ums0: Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2
on uhub2
ucom0: FIDI usb serial converter, class 0/0, rev 1.10/4.00, addr 3 on
uhub2

And for what its worth:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/crash/info.14
Dump header from device /dev/ad0s3b
  Architecture: i386
  Architecture Version: 2
  Dump Length: 154411008B (147 MB)
  Blocksize: 512
  Dumptime: Mon Mar 31 09:25:54 2008
  Hostname: prawn.unsane.co.uk
  Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump
  Version String: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #52: Tue Mar 25 13:45:50 GMT 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/obj/usr/src/sys/PRAWN7ULE
  Panic String: page fault
  Dump Parity: 1302845723
  Bounds: 14
  Dump Status: good

Happy to provide more information but I'm not a programmer so you'll
probably have to ask me slowly and in words of one syllable ;)


Vince





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Re: Panic with usb serial

2008-03-31 Thread Vince Hoffman
Kostik Belousov wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 09:48:55AM +0100, Vince Hoffman wrote:
 Marcin Cieslak wrote:
 Vince wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 Regarding the USB serial adapter, I was supplied it though work a while
 back. I believe from my rather fuzzy memory we got it though these guys
 http://www.usbnow.co.uk/Cables-USB_to_RS232_Cables/c1_23/index.html
 Although I wouldn't swear to it. I'll have an ask if anyone remembers on
 monday.
 Can you post a fragment of dmesg output? I am interested whether you
 attach it to the ohci or uhci controller.

 --Marcin

 Sure,
 Please not this is now a different usb adapter as I left mine at home :(
 but I just tested and it exhibits the same behavior, (only difference I
 can see is this says its FIDI while my one says its FTDI, possibly a typo?)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | grep uhub
 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb0
 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb1
 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb2
 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb3
 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
 uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb4
 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
 umass0: DATAST0R Technology Corp SATA8000 FW1.0, class 0/0, rev
 2.00/0.01, addr 2 on uhub4
 ums0: Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse, class 0/0, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2
 on uhub2
 ucom0: FIDI usb serial converter, class 0/0, rev 1.10/4.00, addr 3 on
 uhub2

 And for what its worth:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/crash/info.14
 Dump header from device /dev/ad0s3b
   Architecture: i386
   Architecture Version: 2
   Dump Length: 154411008B (147 MB)
   Blocksize: 512
   Dumptime: Mon Mar 31 09:25:54 2008
   Hostname: prawn.unsane.co.uk
   Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump
   Version String: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #52: Tue Mar 25 13:45:50 GMT 2008
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/obj/usr/src/sys/PRAWN7ULE
   Panic String: page fault
   Dump Parity: 1302845723
   Bounds: 14
   Dump Status: good

 Happy to provide more information but I'm not a programmer so you'll
 probably have to ask me slowly and in words of one syllable ;)
 
 I need two things:
 1. The revision of the sys/kern/kern_conf.c file; in particular,
I need to know whether you have rev. 1.208.2.1 or 1.208.2.2.
 2. Regardless of the outcome of the question 1, please show the output
of the bt full from the kgdb loaded with your kernel and crash
dump. See
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html
for details on how to obtain useful information from the crash dump.

1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kern_conf.c sys/kern/kern_conf.c
__FBSDID($FreeBSD: src/sys/kern/kern_conf.c,v 1.208.2.2 2008/03/24
13:09:55 kib Exp $);

2)
[/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PRAWN7ULE](11:07:33)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.14
[GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads:
/usr/lib/libthread_db.so: Undefined symbol ps_pglobal_lookup]
GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
conditions.
Type show copying to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as i386-marcel-freebsd.
There is no member named pathname.
(kgdb) bt full
#0  doadump () at pcpu.h:195
No locals.
#1  0xc05ae391 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:409
_giantcnt = Variable _giantcnt is not available.
(kgdb)


This isnt what I was expecting from the article referenced. Would it be
helpful me to update to the latest stable then reproduce (assuming i
still can.)



Vince

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Panic with usb serial

2008-03-29 Thread Vince

Hi all,
	Is it expected that removing a usb serial adapter while you have a 
connection (eg tip) using it will panic a -stable system? I know it is 
expected if you remove a mounted umass device so wanted to see if its 
known behavior for serial before I file a pr. (adapter is FTDI usb 
serial converter, class 0/0, rev 1.10/4.00, addr 3)
-stable version as of the 25th march, (may have existed before but the 
first time I forgot to close tip before removing the device was on this 
version.)



cheer,
Vince
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Re: Missing manual pages (e.g. aio_fsync)

2008-03-29 Thread Vince

Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote:

Hello,

It seems that the manual page of aio_fsync is missing, at least in
FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE. I have some questions regarding this:

1. Is there somebody working on a man page for aio_fsync?

2. Is there a list of missing manual pages?



http://wiki.freebsd.org/MissingManpages
no idea how complete that is though.


3. What is the current status of POSIX and  Unix Specification? Is
there any agreement with IEEE or Open Group allowing to cut-and-paste
from, say, 
http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/aio_fsync.html?



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Re: Panic with usb serial

2008-03-29 Thread Vince

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 10:11:04PM +, Vince wrote:
	Is it expected that removing a usb serial adapter while you have a 
connection (eg tip) using it will panic a -stable system? I know it is 
expected if you remove a mounted umass device so wanted to see if its known 
behavior for serial before I file a pr. (adapter is FTDI usb serial 
converter, class 0/0, rev 1.10/4.00, addr 3)
-stable version as of the 25th march, (may have existed before but the 
first time I forgot to close tip before removing the device was on this 
version.)


I would expect that the problem is identical in the sense that with a
connection established, you have an open file descriptor which is
associated with a serial device that uses USB.

So, yes, I would expect this behaviour based on the track record.
Should it happen?  The answer is no.  File a PR?

Also, I'd like to know what USB serial adapter you're using (brand,
model, and a website of it if possible), for unrelated reasons.  Thanks!

About what I was expecting but just thought I'd check. Will file a PR 
tomorrow when my wife isnt browsing facebook on that laptop :)


Regarding the USB serial adapter, I was supplied it though work a while 
back. I believe from my rather fuzzy memory we got it though these guys

http://www.usbnow.co.uk/Cables-USB_to_RS232_Cables/c1_23/index.html
Although I wouldn't swear to it. I'll have an ask if anyone remembers on 
monday.


Vince
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Re: Mounting devfs over to ZFS from fstab fails

2008-03-28 Thread Vince

Attila Nagy wrote:

Hello,

I have some jails running on ZFS, so I have to mount devfs's into them.

For this purpose, I have some similar lines in /etc/fstab:
devfs   /pool/jail/ldap/dev   devfs   rw  0   0

Where /pool is a ZFS filesystem.


I'm not sure if it will have any adverse effects but changing this to
devfs   /pool/jail/ldap/dev   devfs   rw,late  0   0

Will probably fix it. My guess is that the error checking correction in 
the latest version in -stable picked up an error that was being 
incorrectly ignored before.

see
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal.diff?only_with_tag=RELENG_7r1=texttr1=1.14.2.2r2=texttr2=1.14
which i believe is the MFC for
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1314016+1316331+/usr/local/www/db/text/2008/cvs-all/20080309.cvs-all

Although I cant seen a commit message in cvsweb (i'm still learning that 
though :)



Vince

This has worked until today -when I upgraded from a previous 7-STABLE 
(FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #16: Fri Mar  7 14:30:08 CET 2008) to today's 
STABLE- but not anymore.


The boot process fails with something like WARNING: $true wasn't set, 
see man rc.conf (or something similar, I don't have the exact error 
message, but I can reproduce if it's needed), and the problem is that 
the rc scripts try to mount the devfs (and nullfs) stuff to the yet 
unmounted ZFS, so /pool/jail/ldap/dev doesn't exist.


If I create them on the root filesystem, the OS boots up fine, but of 
course I don't have the devfs's mounted onto ZFS, they are beneath it 
(umount and mount -a solves the issue). There is a similar problem with 
nullfs's as well.


AFAIK only the following has been changed in rc.d:
./dhclient
./mountcritlocal
./mountlate

neither of them seems to be able to produce this kind of malfunction.

Any ideas?
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Re: connection timed out on freebsd 7.0

2007-10-18 Thread Vince
Krassimir Slavchev wrote:
 Hi,
 
 try 'sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=0'
 

Thanks for that, I was having issues connecting to www.freebsd.org from
a 7.0-PRERELEASE box and this fixed it for me.


Vince

 
 Yi Wang wrote:
 Hi,
 
 My box is running FreeBSD 7.0 ( upgrade from 6-stable using src ).
 
 My problem is I can't connect to the network outside the router. eg.
 www.FreeBSD.org. Neither http nor ftp. But I can ping them. I can
 assure you that DNS works fine and the firewall is turned off.
 
 Here's some diagnostic messages:
 
 # uname -a
 FreeBSD wangyi.com 7.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #2: Wed Oct
 17 19:19:47 CST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL
  i386
 
 # ifconfig -a
 le0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
  options=8VLAN_MTU
  ether 00:0c:29:3c:47:47
  inet 172.20.53.106 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.20.53.255
  inet 192.168.0.106 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
  media: Ethernet autoselect
  status: active
 lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384
  inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
  inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
  inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
 vmnet1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
  ether 00:bd:e4:45:00:01
  inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255
 
 PS: This is the result in vmware. I made a dual boot system and run it
 in vmware using raw disk.
 Actually, the real interface is nfe0.
 
 Sorry for my poor English.
 
 Thanks very much!
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Freebsd.org is down

2007-09-14 Thread Vince Hoffman



On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Charles Sprickman wrote:


On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Gary Palmer wrote:


On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 01:26:33PM -0700, Jon wrote:

Check the freebsd-questions list for more info


For those, like me, who are not subscribed to freebsd-questions,
the list archives can be accessed at:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2007-September/thread.html#158022


I'll save you all some trouble...  The thread basically consists of people 
noting that it does not work.  That's pretty much it.  There's no post yet 
stating what the trouble is or what the ETR is.


Of note is that portaudit relies on www.freebsd.org being up to fetch it's 
info.


Oh and fetching the ports index via portsdb -F seems to be broken too, I'd 
imagine it uses the website too.



Vince


Charles


That URL appears to still be answering presently.
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Re: ntpd just sits there and does nothing

2007-07-20 Thread Vince
Can you send the output of ntp.conf?



[LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
 Stefan Lambrev wrote:
 Hi,

 [LoN]Kamikaze wrote:
 Doug Hardie wrote:
  
 On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:08, [LoN]Kamikaze wrote:


 As the subject says, on my 6-stable systems ntpd just sits there and
 does
 nothing. The logs only mention when the daemon gets started or shut
 down. It
 complains when servers are not reachable, but does nothing when they
 are available.

 The drift file always contains 0.00.

 ntpdate and openntpd both successfully manage to set the time, so I
 suppose
 it's a problem with ntpd.
   
 Are you on a static IP address?  If not, ntpd obtains its IP address
 when it starts up and uses it forever.  If your IP address changes then
 it will not be able to communicate with the upstream ntp servers.  It
 has to be restarted everytime your IP address changes.
 
 I have a static address. The trouble is it seems to operate fine, only it
 forgets to change the time when it differs from the time servers too
 much.
 Sometimes my clock goes wrong more than 1 second within a day.
   
 ntpd will not change time if the difference is too big - I think it
 should be less then 1000s.
 ntpdate will :)

 Also if you have increased your kernel secure level 2+ :

   In addition, kernel time changes are restricted to less than or
   equal to one second.  Attempts to change the time by more than
 this
   will log the message ``Time adjustment clamped to +1 second''.

 So grep for ntpd in /var/log/messages and I'm sure you will find the
 problem.

 Other problem that I see is if you are behind NAT/firewall.
 Because ntpd make a request and wait for response on different port, so
 check your firewall configuration and blocked packets.
 
 My securelevel is -1, even starting with an accurate clock ntpd just slowly
 lets it drift away. I'm behind a 2 NATs, one of which I have no access to.
 However openntpd and ntpdate don't seem to be troubled by this.
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Re: ports/security/vpnc vs built-in IPSec?

2007-07-19 Thread Vince

Andrew Reilly wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I used ports/security/vpnc with some success some time ago, but
 then stopped because I didn't need it.  Since then I've
 upgraded my -STABLE many times, and portupgrade has upgraded
 vpnc at least once, and now it doesn't seem to work anymore.
 I've been poking it quite vigerously, this afternoon, without
 much success: I can start it from the command line, with
 debugging turned on and no-disconnect from the control terminal,
 and can see from the debug trace that connection, authentication and
 network route setup all seem perfect.  Just no packets ever seem
 to get through the tun0 link.
 
I'm running -CURRENT so the situation isnt identical but vpnc works fine
here. this is though NAT with  vpnc-0.4.0_1

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add host 80.169.168.42: gateway 192.168.10.2
add net 10.49.11.0: gateway 10.100.223.50
add net 10.44.19.0: gateway 10.100.223.50
VPNC started in background (pid: 24376)...
[~](14:19:30)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-su: !ftp: event not found
[~](14:19:32)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10.49.11.252
Connected to 10.49.11.252.
220 Access to this system is restricted to authorised users only. If you
are not authorised please disconnect now. All transfers are logged.
Name (10.49.11.252:jhary): ^C

[~](14:20:07)
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Terminating vpnc daemon (pid: 24376)



 Now, I remember from long ago that vpnc does not like IPSec in
 the kernel, because (from memory) the kernel gets to the esp
 packets before vpnc (which handles them in user-space), and the
 wrong thing happens.  The difference, now, seems to be that
 there is no longer a config option to disable IPSEC.  Or is
 there?
 
 Is there any way to disable kernel IPSEC in 6-STABLE?
 
Its not enabled in GENERIC, so you wont have IPSEC Unless you have built
a custom kernel.

Cant offer much beyond that though I'm afraid. Has it setup the routing
correctly?

sorry i cant help more,
Vince


 There doesn't seem to be anything in kldstat to indicate that
 any ipsec foo has been dynamically loaded.  Indeed, there
 doesn't seem to be anything in sysctl -a relating to ipsec
 either: does that mean that it somehow *is* disabled?
 
 Any other thoughts on how to improve my situation?
 
 Cheers,
 



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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-16 Thread Vince
For most versions of plesk i've come across (I look after a load of
linux servers with it installed,) if you have the plesk admin then you
have root. Look for the modules option, then look for the add modules,
this should let you upload a shell script which is then run as root
(horribly insecure but thats plesk, and if you fiddle with their setting
enough you can change the css of the webapp not to display the page) If
this is the same on FreeBSD as on linux you can create a new UID 0 user
if need be using pw in a shell script, or you can put a ssh public key
in to roots authorized_keys file. I'd definitely advise you get plesk
removed if you intend to administrate the box by hand though.

If thats no help, when you log into the box by ssh, what is the output 
of
grep root /etc/passwd
it should be something like
root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
if not then they have renamed/removed root so try looking in /etc/passwd
 for a user with uid of 0 (third field.)
This should at least get you a username to ask their support about. If
they have actually removed the root user your a bit stuffed and

Hope some of thats some help.

Vince



Michael Williams wrote:
 Tom,
 
 Again, Plesk just came with the server config we asked for.  We didn't
 ask for Plesk, we *asked* for the specific hardware.  Plesk was free. 
 *rolls eyes*
 
 Regards,
 Michael
 
 On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:17 AM, Tom Samplonius wrote:
 

 - Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No,  I don't necessarily need Plesk; although we will be selling
 hosting.  It simply came with the default configuration for the
 server.  My plan is to manage most everything from the Unix shell.  I

 just figured I might find a morsel inside Plesk somewhere for
 enabling root access.  FYI, logging in as admin didn't work.  Any
 other suggestions?

   You are probably better off just asking the hosting company for the
 password.  You need the root password, and you need to have an account
 that is a member of the wheel group (use groups when you ssh to see
 if your account is ok).

   They might have flagged you as a newbie, and think you are better
 off inside the padded confines of Plesk.  I work at a hosting company,
 and a whole bunch of our dedicated server customers are in over their
 heads with their servers as it is.  Given that you asked for Plesk,
 and are now asking for root, they are probably has made them worried
 that the next call from you will be that you deleted /etc, and  your
 server won't boot anymore.

   If you are planning to do any admin via ssh with root, you will not
 want Plesk.  Plesk manages all of your software installs.  Plesk
 includes Plesk specific versions of Apache, PHP, and MySQL.  All
 patches and updates can only come from SWSoft, or the Plesk universe
 will crash.  And Plesk ties you to a specific FreeBSD version too. 
 Plesk versions lag big time for FreeBSD.  But on the other hand, it is
 big GUI thing, and people like it.


 Tom
 
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Re: HOW TO: Enabling root on a new server?

2007-07-16 Thread Vince
Amusing to hear they are more secure on FreeBSD than linux although its
a shame that didnt work for you. They didnt enable you to use sudo
instead of su or something like that did they?
I'm afraid i cant recommend any FreeBSD hosting companies though
personal experience, (work only does linux and windows,) but i'm sure an
ask on or a search of the archives of the freebsd-questions@ ,
freebsd-net@ or freebsd-isp@ lists will throw up some suggestions.


Vince

Michael Williams wrote:
 First, the output of the grep is:
 
 root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
 toor:*:0:0:Bourne-again Superuser:/root:
 daemon:*:1:1:Owner of many system processes:/root:/usr/sbin/nologin
 
 
 . . .that said, the Plesk Module Loader only allows for .tgz and
 .tbz files and is anal about them being of a module format, whatever
 structure may be.  I've tried what I thought were appropriate modules,
 and it rejected them saying they were not true modules.
 
 I'm going to call one more time today.  If I get no better assistance, I
 will seek out a different company.  If you all have any recommendations
 let me know.  Obviously, the best solution would be to have my ISP set
 me up with a static IP and massive amounts of bandwidth.  But, seeing as
 how that's at least a good 30 years off. . .
 
 Regards,
 Michael
 
 
 On Jul 16, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Vince wrote:
 
 For most versions of plesk i've come across (I look after a load of
 linux servers with it installed,) if you have the plesk admin then you
 have root. Look for the modules option, then look for the add modules,
 this should let you upload a shell script which is then run as root
 (horribly insecure but thats plesk, and if you fiddle with their setting
 enough you can change the css of the webapp not to display the page) If
 this is the same on FreeBSD as on linux you can create a new UID 0 user
 if need be using pw in a shell script, or you can put a ssh public key
 in to roots authorized_keys file. I'd definitely advise you get plesk
 removed if you intend to administrate the box by hand though.

 If thats no help, when you log into the box by ssh, what is the
 output of
 grep root /etc/passwd
 it should be something like
 root:*:0:0:Charlie :/root:/bin/csh
 if not then they have renamed/removed root so try looking in /etc/passwd
  for a user with uid of 0 (third field.)
 This should at least get you a username to ask their support about. If
 they have actually removed the root user your a bit stuffed and

 Hope some of thats some help.

 Vince



 Michael Williams wrote:
 Tom,

 Again, Plesk just came with the server config we asked for.  We didn't
 ask for Plesk, we *asked* for the specific hardware.  Plesk was free.
 *rolls eyes*

 Regards,
 Michael

 On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:17 AM, Tom Samplonius wrote:


 - Michael Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No,  I don't necessarily need Plesk; although we will be selling
 hosting.  It simply came with the default configuration for the
 server.  My plan is to manage most everything from the Unix shell.  I

 just figured I might find a morsel inside Plesk somewhere for
 enabling root access.  FYI, logging in as admin didn't work.  Any
 other suggestions?

   You are probably better off just asking the hosting company for the
 password.  You need the root password, and you need to have an account
 that is a member of the wheel group (use groups when you ssh to see
 if your account is ok).

   They might have flagged you as a newbie, and think you are better
 off inside the padded confines of Plesk.  I work at a hosting company,
 and a whole bunch of our dedicated server customers are in over their
 heads with their servers as it is.  Given that you asked for Plesk,
 and are now asking for root, they are probably has made them worried
 that the next call from you will be that you deleted /etc, and  your
 server won't boot anymore.

   If you are planning to do any admin via ssh with root, you will not
 want Plesk.  Plesk manages all of your software installs.  Plesk
 includes Plesk specific versions of Apache, PHP, and MySQL.  All
 patches and updates can only come from SWSoft, or the Plesk universe
 will crash.  And Plesk ties you to a specific FreeBSD version too.
 Plesk versions lag big time for FreeBSD.  But on the other hand, it is
 big GUI thing, and people like it.


 Tom

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Re: FreeBSD amd64 apache + mod_perl

2007-03-27 Thread Michael Vince
Yeah I have only been able to use that Perl module for Oracle on FreeBSD 
with i386 which is a bit frustrating.

I believe because it uses i386 binary drivers which don't work on AMD64.

Mike

Stefan Lambrev wrote:

Hello list,

Is there any way to have apache + mod_perl on FreeBSD amd64 and to 
connect to oracle 10g server?
Can I use something different then ports/databases/p5-DBD-Oracle or 
get it working?

All my attempts to get p5-DBD-Oracle to work for me failed miserably :(
uname -srm : FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE amd64



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Re: tap device at boot time

2007-03-14 Thread Vince
Willy Offermans wrote:
 Dear FreeBSD friends,
 
 Is it possible to add and configure a tap device at boot time of
 FreeBSD? I mean the same as a normal NIC. In my rc.conf:
 
 snip
 ...
 ifconfig_xl0=inet 192.168.0.2 promisc netmask 255.255.255.0
 ifconfig_rl0=inet 192.168.4.2 netmask 255.255.255.0
 ifconfig_tap0=inet 10.8.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
 ...
 /snip
 
try adding
cloned_interfaces=tap0

to your rc.conf

Vince
 and in my /boot/loader.conf:
 snip
 ...
 if_tap_load=YES
 ...
 /snip
 
 if_xl0 and if_rl0 are compiled into the kernel.
 
 Maybe it is even possible to set the MAC address of the tap device!?
 
 The tap device should be available before named and dhcpd have been
 started. In that way I can provide IP addresses over the tap device 
 and add appropriate DNS entries.
 
 I like to run openvpn with tap devices and want to use the dhcpd server
 to provide IP addresses and update the named. This works quite well.
 However after reboot I always have to restart named and dhcpd again
 since the tap device becomes available after these services have started
 during boot. I guess this problem will be solved if the tap device is
 already available and configured before named and dhcpd have started.
 

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Re: Don't buy AMD products (was Re: Xorg and ATI card query.)

2007-03-14 Thread Vince
Sean Bryant wrote:
 Andrew Reilly wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:17:00 -0800 (PST)
 Doug Ambrisko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 One thing that is a plus with nv is that X has some support for it,
 whereas, the newer ati cards have no support :-(  I was a fan of ati
 since it was easier to get support.  Now I'm starting to lean towards
 Nvidia :-(
 

 Does anyone know if there are *any* contemporary graphics cards
 that have 3D acceleration supported by some flavour of
 open-source x.org?  Doesn't have to be a super-fast 'leet gamer
 system to be better than a non-accelerated frame buffer.

I never thought I'd actually recommend it but
The Intel 82945GM  controller in my laptop has semi ok 3d acceleration.
I'm running the experimental xorg 7.2.r3 server with beryl and its
running quite nicely. output of glinfo below if anyones interested.

The performance doesnt compare to the nvidia drivers on my desktop at
home but it does its job, wouldnt want to game on it though.


glxgears output:
libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
3235 frames in 5.0 seconds = 646.998 FPS
3610 frames in 5.0 seconds = 721.937 FPS
3525 frames in 5.0 seconds = 704.861 FPS
--
glinfo output:
libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
GL_VERSION: 1.3 Mesa 6.5.2
GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_fragment_program
GL_ARB_imaging GL_AR
  B_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture
GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_t
exture_border_clamp
GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_te

xture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar
GL_ARB_text
 ure_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_ARB_texture_rectangle GL_ARB_tran
  spose_matrix
GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_window_pos

  GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color
GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EX
  T_blend_func_separate
GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volu
me_hint
GL_EXT_cull_vertex GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_convolution GL_EX

 T_copy_texture GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord
GL_EXT_histogram GL_E
   XT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels
GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_polygon
_offset
GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_co

 lor GL_EXT_shadow_funcs GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_subtexture
GL_EXT_texture GL_
EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp
GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_en
  v_combine
GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_textu

re_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle
GL_EXT_vertex_array G
   L_3DFX_texture_compression_FXT1
GL_APPLE_client_storage GL_APPLE_packed_pixels G

L_ATI_blend_equation_separate GL_IBM_rasterpos_clip
GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repe
  at GL_INGR_blend_func_separate
GL_MESA_pack_invert GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture GL_MESA
   _window_pos
GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_texture_rectangle

  GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_vertex_program GL_NV_vertex_program1_1
GL_OES_read
 _format GL_SGI_color_matrix GL_SGI_color_table
GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_t
   exture_border_clamp
GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIX_depth

_texture GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
GL_RENDERER: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2
GL_VENDOR: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
GLU_VERSION: 1.3
GLU_EXTENSIONS: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator GLU_EXT_object_space_tess
GLUT_API_VERSION: 5
GLUT_XLIB_IMPLEMENTATION: 15



Vince

   
 
 Try the 'vesa' xorg driver. It may not be fancy or all that accelerated
 but it works quite well. I have an nvidia card and cannot get it to work
 for the life of me. the drive attached, but nothing happens after that.
 It might be the fact that I have a PCI express card. But the vesa driver
 is working just fine for me.
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Re: Can't get sound to work!

2007-03-05 Thread Vince
Karl Denninger wrote:
 Is there any intent to backport that into -STABLE?
 
 How ugly would that be to do?
 
 --
Almost certainly I hope :) if not the patch is available at
http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/snd_RELENG_6_20070305_148_lowlatency.diff.gz
doesnt look too ugly for me, and worked well too.
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Re: Can't get sound to work!

2007-03-05 Thread Vince
Karl Denninger wrote:
 Tried to apply that, and got a mess.
 
 Did you put that on RELENG_6 cleanly?  It drops a bunch of files in the top
 level SRC directory (NOT under /sys!) if applied against /usr/src; it
 appears to apply cleanly but a kernel build subsequent to that fails.
 
 --
Actually i just checked properly and thats a newer patch than the one i
had been using (i switched to current on a whim and havent switched back
yet) The command i was using to apply the previous version was
patch -d /usr/src -p0 
/root/src/snd_RELENG_6_20070111_139_lowlatency.diff
(excuse line wrap)
which worked fine against a clean cvsup of -STABLE until at least the
end of January.
My guess is you didnt patch with the -p0 option to create missing
directories.
The README at http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/README gives Ariffs
instructions for applying.

  The other option is the binaries in
http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/lowlatency/
again read the README


Vince

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Re: gjournal patch

2007-02-12 Thread Vince
Václav Haisman wrote:
 Hi,
 yesterday, I tried to build kernel and world with the gjournal patch. It
 does not apply cleanly. This brings me to question, are there some
 outstanding issues that prevent it from being commited to RELENG_6? I
 tried to search ml archives but I did not find any.
 
 --
 Vaclav Haisman
 
 
 
I run it on a 6.2-release server, no problems as yet but its only been a
month. The original ptach broke back in november see
[http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-November/030803.html]

However because of
[http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/sys/vnode.h.diff?r1=1.304.2.7r2=1.304.2.8f=h]

This doesnt quite apply cleanly but very close to and its easy to
manually do the minor diff manually

basically add the line
#define   VV_DELETED  0x0400  /*  should  be removed */

After
#define   VV_MD   0x0800  /* vnode backs the md device */

No other issues I'm aware of but i'm not following -STABLE on that box
any more.

Vince
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Re: portsupgrade problem on 6.2-RELEASE

2007-02-02 Thread Vince
I see this has been also added to UPDATING now which should remove some
queries from here and questions@

Vince

Dominic Marks wrote:
 On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:31:28 +0100
 Georg Bege [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi

 Got a big problem today with portupgrade:

 
 ...
 
 Look at the other recent posts discussing this problem.
 The solution is manually upgrade portupgrade, see the other
 posts for more information.
 
 Dominic
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Re: portsupgrade problem on 6.2-RELEASE

2007-02-02 Thread Vince
Georg Bege wrote:
 Hi
 
 Sry I dont get it, I searched now again and didnt find much.
 There is nothing about this on freebsd.org.
 If so then tell me where?
 Please be more clearer and give me an URL or so where its pointed out
 how to manual upgrade.
 
from the latest portsnap update:
 more /usr/ports/UPDATING

20070102:
  AFFECTS: users of sysutils/portupgrade
  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  If you have a problem with upgrading the tools from version 2.2.1 and
less,
  remove the package with pkg_delete portupgrade\* command and reinstall it
  from scratch. Remove /usr/ports/INDEX*.db and run portsdb -u.


Hope that helps.
(reinstalling it from scratch involves
cd /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade  make install clean
)
Vince

 thanks
 
 Vince wrote:
 I see this has been also added to UPDATING now which should remove
 some queries from here and questions@

 Vince

 Dominic Marks wrote:
 On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:31:28 +0100 Georg Bege
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi

 Got a big problem today with portupgrade:

 ...

 Look at the other recent posts discussing this problem. The
 solution is manually upgrade portupgrade, see the other posts for
 more information.

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gjournal on 6.x wont build

2006-11-17 Thread Vince
Hi all,
I was intending on trying out gjournal on a new disk i've added in my
desktop. I had a look to see what the most recent patch provided by
Pawel and found
http://people.freebsd.org/~pjd/patches/gjournal6_20061024.patch
I created the directories as per Pawel's original post
(http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2006-June/001962.html)
and the patch succeeded with no failed hunks, however adding
options GEOM_JOURNAL
options UFS_GJOURNAL

to my kernel config
then doing a make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNELCONF

errors out with
/journal/g_journal.c
/usr/src/sys/geom/journal/g_journal.c: In function `g_journal_do_switch':
/usr/src/sys/geom/journal/g_journal.c:2872: error: structure has no
member named `mnt_gjprovider'
/usr/src/sys/geom/journal/g_journal.c:2885: error: structure has no
member named `mnt_gjprovider'
/usr/src/sys/geom/journal/g_journal.c:2890: error: structure has no
member named `mnt_gjprovider'
*** Error code 1

This is on a recent 6-stable system
6.2-PRERELEASE #1: Fri Nov 10 14:31:47 GMT 2006
any idea what ive done wrong ?

Cheers,
Vince

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Re: gjournal on 6.x wont build

2006-11-17 Thread Vince
Philippe Pegon wrote:
 Vince wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Hi,
 
 I was intending on trying out gjournal on a new disk i've added in my
 desktop. I had a look to see what the most recent patch provided by
 Pawel and found
 http://people.freebsd.org/~pjd/patches/gjournal6_20061024.patch
 I created the directories as per Pawel's original post
 (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2006-June/001962.html)
 and the patch succeeded with no failed hunks, however adding
 options GEOM_JOURNAL   
 options UFS_GJOURNAL

 to my kernel config
 then doing a make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNELCONF

 errors out with
 /journal/g_journal.c
 /usr/src/sys/geom/journal/g_journal.c: In function `g_journal_do_switch':
 /usr/src/sys/geom/journal/g_journal.c:2872: error: structure has no
 member named `mnt_gjprovider'
 /usr/src/sys/geom/journal/g_journal.c:2885: error: structure has no
 member named `mnt_gjprovider'
 /usr/src/sys/geom/journal/g_journal.c:2890: error: structure has no
 member named `mnt_gjprovider'
 *** Error code 1

 This is on a recent 6-stable system
 6.2-PRERELEASE #1: Fri Nov 10 14:31:47 GMT 2006
 any idea what ive done wrong ?
 
 the latest patch (gjournal6_20061024.patch) doesn't apply cleanly on
 fresh RELENG_6 due to the last commit on mount.h :
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/sys/mount.h?only_with_tag=RELENG_6
 
 
 I have slightly modified the patch so that it works (see attach)
 

That works a treat. Thanks for the prompt response and patch. i'll start
playing with it when i get home.


Vince

 -- 
 Philippe Pegon
 
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Re: 6.1 with PAE on a recent server (HP DL380 G5 or Dell PE 1950) ?

2006-11-13 Thread Michael Vince

Olivier Mueller wrote:


Hello,

I will soon get some new servers with more than 4 GB of RAM, and
I am wondering if they will work fine even with the PAE
option activated: are all the required drivers (RAID mfid, bce
on the Dell, ciss0 on the HP) 100% compatible, or should I expect
trouble? 


If you have a working /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ with active
PAE on one of these servers, I'd be interested :)

Btw, when will we see these new servers listed under:
http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html ? 
Or should I use send-pr ? :)


Thanks  regards,
Olivier

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I have one of these.
The ethernet device (bce) kept falling over on release as well as other 
stability problems (forget them all now)


I am running stable from September the 8th on it which appears to be a 
good time as it was before any new funkier ethernet device commits where 
a lot of people started complaining about em and bce timeout probs.


I posted a basic Ethernet speed of this machine a while back, 
92mbytes/sec is bad but its not as fast with my Dells with em devices on 
6.1 release.


Bce HP  to Em Dell
HPDL380# cat /dev/zero | dd bs=1m | nc dell2 3000
^C0+19648 records in
0+19648 records out
1287606272 bytes transferred in 13.926151 secs (92,459,594 bytes/sec)

I don't really like these machines at all compared to the Dells, mainly 
because the bios is very disappointing and even 'stupid' in my opinion.
Its important to note that in key areas its actually quite different 
from from the G4 and older generations, its hard to navigate/use and 
isn't as remotely useful compared to Dells bios, that said again is my 
opinion!


They also skimp on a bunch of things that they know most people don't 
know about, like battery backed write cache in their controller cards, 
any of the mid to high end servers you see on the Dell web site specs 
list the battery backed controller card quite clearly.
So with a default setup of these HP's you don't get any write cache from 
the 256meg controller cache unless you want to go down a more dodgey 
road manually enable it and risk data loss if you loose sudden power.


I am also considering using PAE on it over its current AMD64 mode as I 
have special requirements.
I had to get one of these as we needed a machine fast which they did 
come through on.


Mike

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usb serial lockup

2006-11-10 Thread Vince
Hi All,
I have a bit of a wierd problem, My laptop has no serial ports, as is
the norm these days, so i have a FTDI based usb serial connector which
is very handy and works well. However, what i have found is that freebsd
still detects a serial port anyway

sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 8250 or not responding
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled

and if i'm careless and type tip com1 ( or use minicom on /dev/{ttyd0,
cuad0} as root or as a user I hard lock my laptop, nothing responding
and i have to powercycle it. this is 100% reproducable.

I'm pretty sure this isnt expected behaviour, and it has happened from
6.1 through 6-Stable to my latest update (possibly before but i havent
tested:)
6.2-PRERELEASE #12: Mon Nov  6 15:01:21 GMT 2006

any suggestions as to what i can do about it? (other than watch my
typing, if thats the only answer i can live with it though;)


Vince
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Re: usb serial lockup

2006-11-10 Thread Vince
Ian Smith wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Vince wrote:
 
  I have a bit of a wierd problem, My laptop has no serial ports, as is
   the norm these days, so i have a FTDI based usb serial connector which
   is very handy and works well. However, what i have found is that freebsd
   still detects a serial port anyway
   
   sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
   sio0: port may not be enabled
   sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
   sio0: type 8250 or not responding
   sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
   sio1: port may not be enabled
   
   and if i'm careless and type tip com1 ( or use minicom on /dev/{ttyd0,
   cuad0} as root or as a user I hard lock my laptop, nothing responding
   and i have to powercycle it. this is 100% reproducable.
 
 add to /boot/loader.conf (ditto for sio.1 wouldn't hurt):
 
 hint.sio.0.disabled=1
 
Yeah that would work. didnt even think to look there.
Doh.


cheers,
Vince

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Re: problems compiling stable

2006-11-07 Thread Vince Hoffman

Nenhum _de_Nos wrote:

On 11/7/06, Matthew Herzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I should add that I am using a Sun Ultrasparc machine for FreeBSD. It
takes at least 8 hours to get to the point of breakage.

On 11/7/06, Nenhum _de_Nos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 11/7/06, Matthew Herzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My attempts always end in gbde. I have posted the error before. I
  should be giving up by now. It's prolly been  12 attempts.
 

 i must confess i'm not too far from this ... :(

 as far as i cant see i'll have to way till 6.2-R comes ...

 matheus


well, the make buildkernel this time passed ! not such good luck for
buildworld :(

matheus


Have  you tried
cd /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.bin/vi
rm -rf *  rm .depend

(make clean doesnt delete .depend and rm -rf * doesnt either.)
then try cd /usr/src/usr.bin
make


just in case you have something stale lying around ?

Vince

PS try installing ccache to speed up your compiles.

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Re: probs on 6.2-prerelease

2006-09-26 Thread Michael Vince

Danny Braniss wrote:


[...]
 


Hey all,

I don't know if this is pre 6.2 specific but I changed my /etc/tty for 
device ttyd0 to 'on' from 'off' and when I rebooted the pc I couldn't 
login via regular KVM console, just don't get a login.
The more alarming thing was that while it appeared everything was 
booting up from the boot up messages on the screen, I couldn't remotely 
log into the server in fact it appears the machine didn't bring up the 
Ethernet device as I couldn't even ping it.
As soon as I switched the ttyd0 back to 'off' and rebooted it I could 
ssh back into the server etc.

I have a regular kernel and 1 jail and samba on this machine.

This might just be a ports thing but on another 6.2 server I setup a 
jailed mail server with courier imap and I have noticed that it fails to 
build the courier-imap port with FAM support.
I tried also installing the gamin FAM alternative which builds ok but I 
get signal 11 when I try to login to the imap server.


Does anyone else have these problems?

  

   


I've been having this for a very long time, if the serial port does
not realy exist - i don't know the technical wording for this -,

if the kernel detected the sio hardare, but it's not realy
wired, then it the kernel will hang when getty will try to open it.

danny


 

OK good then its not just me, yes I haven't checked if the serial port 
is actually enabled in the bios, still I think its quite ordinary to 
have a machine basically fully hang up just because theres no active 
serial port. With no network or serial (unless you can enable/find it 
hardware side) I had to boot from the Freebsd install cdrom in fix it 
mode and mount the installed setup and revert the tty change.


   



next time, just boot single user, do a 
	fsck /
then 
	mount -u /

at which point you will be able to fix /etc/ttys
or any other screwup.

danny

 

Yeah for some reason I couldn't do that, I can't even remember all the 
reasons now but  the main reason is because I have a USB keyboard, for 
some reason I can use the USB keyboard in the BIOS but as soon as the 
boot loader starts with the 10sec menu I loose all control of the keyboard.
Booting into fixit mode from the CDROM loads the USB drivers (as well as 
not hanging up the OS anywhere) so I could mount the filesystem and fix it.


Mike

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Re: probs on 6.2-prerelease

2006-09-25 Thread Michael Vince

Danny Braniss wrote:


Hey all,

I don't know if this is pre 6.2 specific but I changed my /etc/tty for 
device ttyd0 to 'on' from 'off' and when I rebooted the pc I couldn't 
login via regular KVM console, just don't get a login.
The more alarming thing was that while it appeared everything was 
booting up from the boot up messages on the screen, I couldn't remotely 
log into the server in fact it appears the machine didn't bring up the 
Ethernet device as I couldn't even ping it.
As soon as I switched the ttyd0 back to 'off' and rebooted it I could 
ssh back into the server etc.

I have a regular kernel and 1 jail and samba on this machine.

This might just be a ports thing but on another 6.2 server I setup a 
jailed mail server with courier imap and I have noticed that it fails to 
build the courier-imap port with FAM support.
I tried also installing the gamin FAM alternative which builds ok but I 
get signal 11 when I try to login to the imap server.


Does anyone else have these problems?

   



I've been having this for a very long time, if the serial port does
not realy exist - i don't know the technical wording for this -,

if the kernel detected the sio hardare, but it's not realy
wired, then it the kernel will hang when getty will try to open it.

danny
 

OK good then its not just me, yes I haven't checked if the serial port 
is actually enabled in the bios, still I think its quite ordinary to 
have a machine basically fully hang up just because theres no active 
serial port. With no network or serial (unless you can enable/find it 
hardware side) I had to boot from the Freebsd install cdrom in fix it 
mode and mount the installed setup and revert the tty change.


Mike

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probs on 6.2-prerelease

2006-09-24 Thread Michael Vince

Hey all,

I don't know if this is pre 6.2 specific but I changed my /etc/tty for 
device ttyd0 to 'on' from 'off' and when I rebooted the pc I couldn't 
login via regular KVM console, just don't get a login.
The more alarming thing was that while it appeared everything was 
booting up from the boot up messages on the screen, I couldn't remotely 
log into the server in fact it appears the machine didn't bring up the 
Ethernet device as I couldn't even ping it.
As soon as I switched the ttyd0 back to 'off' and rebooted it I could 
ssh back into the server etc.

I have a regular kernel and 1 jail and samba on this machine.

This might just be a ports thing but on another 6.2 server I setup a 
jailed mail server with courier imap and I have noticed that it fails to 
build the courier-imap port with FAM support.
I tried also installing the gamin FAM alternative which builds ok but I 
get signal 11 when I try to login to the imap server.


Does anyone else have these problems?

Mike




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Re: Polling and em0

2006-09-16 Thread Michael Vince

Bill Blue wrote:


polling(4) says that supported devices include em(4) and that polling support 
is turned on and off with ifconfig's 'polling' option.  But ifconfig doesn't 
seem to recognize that option either as a standalone request or with the 
initial em0 setup at boot.

This is after a source cvsup (releng=6 for the frozen for 6.2 sources) 
yesterday and buildworld + buildkernel.  em support is compiled in the kernel 
rather than loaded.  Mobo is a Supermicro P4SCT-0 with Intel 875 chipset.

Is this a known issue that I haven't found references to, or perhaps something 
related to my specific configuration?

FreeBSD v2.netoldies.com 6.2-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Sep 15 
15:14:07 PDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/V2KERNEL  i386

Thanks

--Bill

 

Since 6.1 I have stopped using polling as a regular kernel seems to give 
good performance as compared to polling mode.
In fact I used to get anything between 55-75megs/sec on 6.1 with regular 
cables but since upgraded to cat6 quality Ethernet cable I get 
practically full gigabit speed with no polling.
Close to 97megs/sec is the performance I get out of my Dells with the em 
driver, and apparently the new em driver in 6-stable 6.2 is even faster.


em(4) Dell to em(4) Dell
dell1# cat /dev/zero | dd bs=1m | nc dell2 3000
^C0+18456 records in
0+18455 records out
1209466880 bytes transferred in 12.459299 secs (97,073,429 bytes/sec)

Mike

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Re: FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE -FreeBSD 6.1-Stable

2006-09-12 Thread Vince
Eric wrote:
 S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote:
 Now i am using FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE. Now want to upgrade to FreeBSD
 6.1-Stable. What is the easy process ?


 
 this works well
 
 http://mikestammer.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=bsd:updateos
the cvsup part looks ok but for the actual build then read
/usr/src/Makefile
for the recommended procedure.

Vince
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Re: speedstep / cpu frequency control on 6-stable?

2006-08-22 Thread Vince
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
 Hello,
 
 What ids the current way to control cpu speed (and power consumption)
 in FreeBSD 6-stable?
 Before, est was one way, but all traces of est has disappeared
 from /etc/defaults/rc.conf and thereabouts.
 I find something about powerd and power_profile, but they don't seem to
 work, and I can't seem to find out what variables / configuration items
 to set. 'man cpufreq' isn't much help in that regard either.
In what way does powerd not work for you?
([EMAIL PROTECTED])$grep powerd /etc/defaults/rc.conf
powerd_enable=NO  # Run powerd to lower our power usage.
powerd_flags= # Flags to powerd (if enabled).

read man powerd for flags
 and try
powerd -v
this should give an indication of what happens, for example I get
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -v
idle time  90%, decreasing clock speed from 1666 MHz to 1457 MHz
idle time  90%, decreasing clock speed from 1457 MHz to 1249 MHz
idle time  90%, decreasing clock speed from 1249 MHz to 1041 MHz
idle time  90%, decreasing clock speed from 1041 MHz to 833 MHz
idle time  90%, decreasing clock speed from 833 MHz to 624 MHz
idle time  90%, decreasing clock speed from 624 MHz to 416 MHz
idle time  90%, decreasing clock speed from 416 MHz to 208 MHz
idle time  65%, increasing clock speed from 208 MHz to 624 MHz
idle time  90%, decreasing clock speed from 624 MHz to 416 MHz
idle time  90%, decreasing clock speed from 416 MHz to 208 MHz
idle time  65%, increasing clock speed from 208 MHz to 624 MHz
idle time  90%, decreasing clock speed from 624 MHz to 416 MHz

which is a pain if i'm running X on mains so I tend to use
-a maximum -b adaptive
as my powerd flags as it defaults to adaptive even if your on mains power.

 
 Do I need working acpi to use a power control method?
Umm not sure as mine works, but probably, since my dmesg says I have
acpi_throttle0: ACPI CPU Throttling

[EMAIL PROTECTED] | grep -i cpu
CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU   T2300  @ 1.66GHz (1662.51-MHz
686-class CPU)
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
acpi_throttle0: ACPI CPU Throttling on cpu0
cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0
acpi_throttle1: ACPI CPU Throttling on cpu1
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!


Vince
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Re: Dell Server 2900 with the new Intel processor Woodcrest

2006-08-09 Thread Michael Vince

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thomas Agersborg wrote:


I want to purchase a Dell Server 2900 with these specifications


...


Dual-Core 64-bit Intel Xeon processor 5160


...


4GB (4x1GB) 667MHz FBD memory (max 32GB)


...


is there any issues which I need to
be aware of in regard to the server and FreeBSD?



You'll want (need) to run amd64 instead of i386.  You can run i386, 
but the 64-bit capabilities will go to waste.  You also won't get to 
use all of your 4 GB of RAM due to memory-mapping of hardware I/O 
addresses. The amd64 version does not have these problems.  All the 
major software is now 64-bit clean, but you may have trouble with some 
desktop-type software (mplayer) and other less-common ports.  Beyond 
that, all is good--PowerEdge+FreeBSD is an excellent combination.  We 
even have IPMI support!

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Just a few extra notes I could add. Its possible to use just the PAE 
kernel config with i386 to get access to all your ram, I only do it 
because I need 1.4 Java which is only really available on i386 but most 
people would use the 1.5 Java instead, also I need the i386 Perl Oracle 
driver as there is no AMD64 version of that. Other then those I would 
just use the AMD64 FreeBSD.
I did see a commit on that new Perc5 Raid card somewhere I don't know if 
its in 6.1Release or just 6stable so I guess the only risk is that may 
have to run 6-Stable till 6.2


Mike

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Re: em(4) update for 6-STABLE

2006-08-06 Thread Michael Vince

Gleb Smirnoff wrote:


On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 04:14:35PM -0700, Nikolas Britton wrote:
N First, it significantly improves perfromance of the driver
N under high pps load.
N Second, it adds support for few new chips.
N 
N You need to update your system to fresh RELENG_6. The driver
N will not compile on 6.1-RELEASE.
N 
N Why will it not compile on 6.1?


Because it uses new taskqueue API not yet present in 6.1-RELEASE.

 


Sounds good,
I will have to wait till 6.2release before using it, Stable just isn't 
as stable as it used to be.

I look forward to em benchmarking.

Mike

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Re: em device hangs on ifconfig alias ...

2006-07-08 Thread Michael Vince

Robert Watson wrote:



On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, User Freebsd wrote:

I think that I have patched, built and loaded the em(4) kernel 
module correctly. After applying the patch there were no rejects, 
before building the module I intentionally appended  (patched) to 
its version string in if_em.c, and could see that in dmesg every 
time I loaded the module: em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 
Version - 3.2.18 (patched)



Is it possible that we're going at this issue backwards?  It isn't 
the lack of ARP packet going out that is causing the problems with 
moving IPs, but that delay that we're seeing when aliasing a new IP 
on the stack?  The ARP packet *is* being attempted, but is timing out 
before the re-init is completing?



Yes -- basically, there are two problems:

(1) A little problem, in which an arp announcement is sent before the 
link has

settled after reset.

(2) A big problem, in which the interface is gratuitously recent 
requiring

long settling times.


I thought I remember a developer working on the em driver saying just 
before 6.1 was released that this reset was needed and couldn't be 
avoided to ensure performance of the device to work at its best, I can't 
remember his explanation, but this topic has come up before, of course 
anything is possible to fix.


Mike




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Re: em device hangs on ifconfig alias ...

2006-06-29 Thread Michael Vince

Atanas wrote:


Dan Nelson said the following on 6/28/06 3:52 PM:


In the last episode (Jun 28), User Freebsd said:


has anyone figured out why the em device 'hangs' for about 30-45
seconds whenever you ifconfig alias a new IP on to the device?



The em driver resets the card when you add an IP to it, and unless
you've configured your switch not to autodetect fancy features on that
port, it may very well take 45 seconds for it to come up.

For me the em reset actually takes about a second or so per single IP 
alias. But more aliases you got, longer the timeout becomes. In case 
you have hundreds (like I do), a single reboot might cost you 
something like 10-15 minutes of downtime, just for the aliases to come 
up.
Does anybody know a better NIC driver alternative when dealing with 
lots of IP aliases?



Regards,
Atanas

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For me its IP alias additions take 1 or maybe 2secs, but it is 
noticeable, but really isn't an issue for me.


As far as I have noticed the em driver in 6.1 after being rebuilt is at 
its peak of driver quality, so much in fact that since 6.1 its 
recommended not to even bother with polling with em if you need maximum 
network performance as it won't go any faster, the em driver for 6.1 got 
very large performance improvement compared to older em driver versions 
before 6.1-release, which I suspect got over hacked over time.
I am pretty sure I used to only be able to get 200,300mbits/sec max but 
now I can get up to 850mbits on some and on the lowest side 500mbits/sec 
on others which I suspect is due to cable quality etc.

I am just thankful for it working as it is.

Mike


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Re: em device hangs on ifconfig alias ...

2006-06-29 Thread Michael Vince

User Freebsd wrote:


On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Peter Jeremy wrote:


On Thu, 2006-Jun-29 17:30:07 +1000, Michael Vince wrote:


For me its IP alias additions take 1 or maybe 2secs, but it is
noticeable, but really isn't an issue for me.



But it obviously is for Atanas, who has 100's of aliases.



In my case, it isn't 100's, but the problem is noticeable ... I have 
my start up scripts, right now, do the ifconfig, sleep for 45 seconds, 
and then start up the jail ... and even then, apache doesn't *always* 
start up, since sometimes that isn't long enough for the network to 
come back up for DNS to be reachable :(



Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services 
(http://www.hub.org)


The thing that have to ask is if Atanas has 100's why can't he just boot 
Freebsd have have them all prebound to the interface at startup, why 
would you need to add and remove them constantly by the hundreds during 
normal server uptime?


I do restart my jails now and then, but because the IPs are already 
bound to the interface I don't have any pause issues.


Mike

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Re: Gigabit ethernet very slow.

2006-06-26 Thread Michael Vince

Nikolas Britton wrote:


On 6/25/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 6/25/06, Sean Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 /dev/zero not exactly the best way to test sending data across the
 network. Especially since you'll be reading a 8k chunks.

 I could be wrong, strong possibility that I am. I only got 408mb when
 doing a /dev/zero test. I've managed to saturate though. Using other
 software that I wrote.
 On 6/25/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What's up with my computer, it's only getting 30MB/s?
 
  hostB: nc -4kl port  /dev/null
  hostA: nc host port  /dev/zero
 

408MByte/s or 408Mbit/s and what measuring stick are you using? I'm
trying to rule in/out problems with the disks, I'm only getting
~25MB/s on a 6 disk RAID0 over the network... would it be better to
setup an memory backed disk, md(4) , to read from?




Now I'm getting 523.2Mbit/s (65.4MB/s) with netcat, I wiped out the
FreeBSD 6.1/amd64 install with FreeBSD 6.1/i386... and...

After a kernel rebuild (recompiled nc too):
CPUTYPE?=athlon-mp
CFLAGS+= -mtune=athlon64
COPTFLAGS+= -mtune=athlon64

I'm up to 607.2Mbit/s (75.9MB/s). What else can I do to get that
number higher, and how can I get interrupts lower?

Before recompile:
load averages:  0.94,  0.91,  0.66
CPU states:  2.6% user,  0.0% nice, 21.5% system, 64.6% interrupt, 
11.3% idle

---
After recompile:
load averages:  0.99,  0.96,  0.76
CPU states:  3.0% user,  0.0% nice, 33.7% system, 58.2% interrupt,  
5.1% idle


Out of interested I tried the same test with nc but with dd in the pipe 
or by watching it by pftop.


According to pftop (with modulate state rules) I am able to get about 
85megs/sec when I don't have dd running. dd does indeed eats a fair 
amount of cpu (40%) on the AMD64 6-stable machine.


With a dd pipe I am able to get roughly 70megs/sec  between 2 Dell 
machines, one of them being AMD64 (I ran dd on this one as its has 2 
CPUs). pftop confirms this figure as well.


cat /dev/zero | dd | nc host 3000
2955297+0 records in
2955297+0 records out
1513112064 bytes transferred in 20.733547 secs (72978930 bytes/sec)

These machines are also doing regular work and not idle.

I tested on another remote network setup as well, with a 3 FreeBSD 
setup, 1 client  one FreeBSD gateway and 3rd server. (host-A 
host-Bhost-C) HostA is the only one using 6-stable all others 
are 6.1.

None of these machines have polling and are all em devices (Dell servers).


Going from C to A (via B) gives 50megs/sec
host-C#cat /dev/zero | dd | nc host-A 3000
15000154+0 records in
15000153+0 records out
7680078336 bytes transferred in 152.320171 secs (50420626 bytes/sec)


Between them directly they all appear to give around 55-85megs/sec.

The shocker I found was sending data from hostA to hostC which appears 
to only give 1 meg/sec

host-A#cat /dev/zero | dd | nc host-C 3000
40135+0 records in
40134+0 records out
20548608 bytes transferred in 19.250176 secs (1067450 bytes/sec)

Host-A to Host-B. Actually all tests sending data from outside into 
anything past Host-B's internal network interface caused a massive drop 
in performance 800kbytes/sec

host-A#cat /dev/zero | dd | nc host-B(internal interface ip) 3000
58041+0 records in
58040+0 records out
29716480 bytes transferred in 36.137952 secs (822307 bytes/sec)

Going from Host-A to Host-B's external interface gives still gives fast 
results around 60megs/sec

host-A#cat /dev/zero | dd | nc host-B(external interface ip) 3000
4984545+0 records in
4984544+0 records out
2552086528 bytes transferred in 40.569696 secs (62906227 bytes/sec)

Speed from host-B (gateway) to Host-A is still ok at around 50megs/sec
host-B#cat /dev/zero | dd | nc host-A 3000
8826036+0 records in
8826035+0 records out
4518929920 bytes transferred in 80.471211 secs (56155858 bytes/sec)

Connecting from the internal server to the internal gateway ip gives a 
good speed around 70megs/sec

host-C#cat /dev/zero | dd | nc host-B(internal interface ip) 3000
6176688+0 records in
6176688+0 records out
3162464256 bytes transferred in 42.100412 secs (75117181 bytes/sec)

Interestingly connecting to the external interface of the gateway from 
the internal machine still gave good speeds around 70megs/sec

host-C# cat /dev/zero | dd | nc nc host-B(external interface ip) 3000
7107351+0 records in
7107351+0 records out
3638963712 bytes transferred in 49.451670 secs (73586265 bytes/sec)

I used to run the gateway with polling but ditched it when upgrading 
from 6.0 to 6.1 since the improved em driver came into 6.1
Would any one have any explaination as to why incomming data from Host A 
thru B to its most distant interface from Host-A would give such poor 
performance (1meg/sec) while going the other way seems to be fine?
Obviously its something going on inside the FreeBSD kernel as interface 
to interface tests are fine.


Its a its a Dell 1850 with 6.1-release-amd64 with pf rules enabled. The 
only only special kernel changes are 

Re: 6.1 Stable keeps hanging

2006-06-05 Thread Michael Vince
Are you running tcpdump at all? that practically switches off ethernet 
for some reason on most of my Dell 6.x servers, and via ssh it feels 
like the machine has fully halted but it isn't, i normally serial in and 
manually kill the tcpdump to get back in control.


The behavior is different in jails though, if you tcpdump inside a jail, 
only the main host server stops responding but you can watch packets as 
normal inside the jail.

I don't know if this is a em driver thing or generic.
tcpdump related problems have been mounting up, first it was annoying 
that the -A option stopped working for seeing packets an ascii form, now 
machines ethernet locks up.


For machines that are past 4gigs, I run them in i386 with PAE, which I 
think works well but my biggest reason for doing this is the need for 
stable Java. But they are also affected by the ethernet lockup problems.


If your machine just started doing this and its not related to packet 
spying then its a different problem.


Mike


Denny wrote:


no, i m not running any gui on it. when i did scp of some big size files from 
other place to this machine, it will freeze after a while and i cant press 
anything on keyboard.
| 
| Kaiwai Gardiner wrote on Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 06:09:07PM SGT :

| | Just out of curiosity, when you mean 'hang' you mean the gui? have you
| | tried disabling DRI?
| | 
| | Matty
| | 
| | On 6/2/06, Denny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| | here are my kernconf and dmesg
| | 
| | 
| | Alexey Karagodov wrote on Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 02:51:35PM SGT :
| | | any way, post your configs (kernel's too) and etc etc etc ...
| | |
| | | i have a computer, it's doesn't work. what's the problem? ...
| | |
| | |
| | | 2006/6/2, Denny [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
| | | 
| | | Hi,
| | | 
| | | I am running 6.1 stable, AMD64 on Dell 2850, Intel Xeon. It keeps 
| | hanging

| | | for no reason, no panic message or core and I have to reboot the system
| | | whenever it freezes.
| | | 
| | | Any idea where to check?
| | | 
| | | Denny
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SSH debug messages

2006-04-21 Thread Michael Vince

Hey all,

Since using 6-stable for the last few months I keep getting these ssh 
client/server? debug messages, I wasn't that annoyed with them at first 
I figured it was just something part of 6.1 betas but now its just 
getting annoying, and I am still getting them on the latest rc1 build.
Here is a copy and paste of what I get, I get them almost all the time 
in programs like 'mc'

debug2: channel 0: window 31272 sent adjust 34264

Anyone know how to make these go away?

Cheers,
Mike


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Re: SSH debug messages

2006-04-21 Thread Michael Vince

Michael Vince wrote:


Hey all,

Since using 6-stable for the last few months I keep getting these ssh 
client/server? debug messages, I wasn't that annoyed with them at 
first I figured it was just something part of 6.1 betas but now its 
just getting annoying, and I am still getting them on the latest rc1 
build.
Here is a copy and paste of what I get, I get them almost all the time 
in programs like 'mc'

debug2: channel 0: window 31272 sent adjust 34264

Anyone know how to make these go away?

Cheers,
Mike



OK I know what is now, its because I am putting -v on my ssh command, 
silly me.

Thanks for those who emailed me to let me know.

Mike

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Re: kde

2006-03-13 Thread Michael Vince

Steinberg, Michael wrote:


im compiling kde from the ports for about the hundreth time and something
always goes wrong this time its more simple than most but i can't seem to
find what im looking for. It attempted to fetch a library called tiff.4 in
several places and found nothing. It asked me to find it and ive been
looking all over google and got nothing. Does anybody know where i can find
this library?
Thanx,
Max

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Maybe you just got to get more down and dirty.
If its really getting tough and there seems no end in sight try a 
portupgrade -kfa which I have always assumed stands for (along with 
the old doom cheat codes) Kick F**ken Ass :)


Also try with the -p switch to create packages which might save some 
time on mass package nukes and retrys, or even a -O to ignore dependencies.
Also if you get stuck on something small like tiff try just installing 
it as a package over the internet.

pkg_add -r tiff
to install a binary package of it, you could also do a -f on that to 
force it, which is something that should be considered to at the top of 
your list.


I almost always have a good look through my /var/db/pkg before and after 
even the most ruthless portupgrade I usually find it remarkably clean.



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6-stable and Tcpdump problems

2006-03-04 Thread Michael Vince
I am using the latest FreeBSD 6-stable and I am still having trouble 
dumping tcpdump in clear text data.
In FreeBSD 5.x using 'tcpdump -A -s 0 -i sk0' I would always give me a 
full screen Ascii dump of current network data to the screen but now it 
just shows everything in Hex.
I submitted a send-pr on this sometime around 6.0 release but it never 
got anywhere.

If you use the same command on 5.x it works fine.
I found the closest thing I can get is using tcpdump -XX -s 0 -i sk0 
which dumps both Hex and Acsii anything with the '-A' which is normally 
the important flag always results in Hex dumps.
Installing ngrep from ports and doing 'ngrep -d sk0' gives me the result 
I want but I have found over time that ngrep often fails to work 
depending on when I track 6-stable, I would prefer to use tcpdump always 
working.


Can any one agree with me there is a bug here? I have the same result on 
multiple machines.


Cheers,
Mike






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FreeBSD 6-stable hosts.allow and samba

2006-02-28 Thread Michael Vince

Hi Guys,
I have been stuffing around for a silly amount of time trying to connect 
to a test samba install on a 6-stable box with from WinXP with no success.


I checked the logs like hell on (enabled all.log) and saw nothing, no 
server rejections nothing. In log.nmbd I did see a bunch of nice 
messages like host resolution and master browser successful elections etc.


After trying just about everything to connect to the Samba I enabled 
ALL : ALL : allow in hosts.allow as a last resort and boom there comes 
up my samba server via MS windows.


This is what I had in hosts.allow below.

ALL : localhost 127.0.0.1 : allow
ALL : 192.168.0. : allow
ALL : ALL \
   : severity auth.info \
   : twist /bin/echo You are not welcome to use %d from %h.

Looking at the example hosts.allow I can see why this would fail as IP 
based address are always fully netmasked unlike my short handed ALL : 
192.168.0. : allow


The examples and hostnames like  .evil.cracker.example.com are used 
through me off a bit as I just assumed it would work, and also because 
such terminology is used in the smb.conf


I think its a bit ordinary that nothing comes up in any of the logs in 
/var/log when samba rejects with no warning via tcpwrappers and I 
believe there should be something in hosts.allow to say that something 
like ALL : 192.168.0. : allow doesn't work at all such as


# This does not work
# ALL : 192.168.0. : allow

# Use full sub-netting terminology instead
# ALL : 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0 : allow

I think this is needed as I believe I have been burned by this before 
and I can only assume other people have as well.


Just my thoughts

Mike


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Re: FreeBSD 6-stable hosts.allow and samba

2006-02-28 Thread Michael Vince

Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote:


Hi,

 


On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:07:52 +1100
Michael Vince [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
   



mv I checked the logs like hell on (enabled all.log) and saw nothing, no 
mv server rejections nothing. In log.nmbd I did see a bunch of nice 
mv messages like host resolution and master browser successful elections etc.


mv After trying just about everything to connect to the Samba I enabled 
mv ALL : ALL : allow in hosts.allow as a last resort and boom there comes 
mv up my samba server via MS windows.


mv This is what I had in hosts.allow below.

mv ALL : localhost 127.0.0.1 : allow
mv ALL : 192.168.0. : allow
mv ALL : ALL \
mv : severity auth.info \
mv : twist /bin/echo You are not welcome to use %d from %h.

It's strange.  I've just tested it on my box but with ftp.  It seems
working fine.

Sincerely,

--
 

Actually I think jumped the gun a bit and may have to retract some of 
what I said.
It appears I failed to look at the samba.sh init script properly which 
is created in a way where 'samba_enable=YES' only loads the nmbd 
daemon and not the more important smbd daemon for actual shares, I 
should of had this in my rc.conf


nmbd_enable=YES
smbd_enable=YES

Mike

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Re: 6.0 on Dell 1850 with PERC4e/DC RAID?

2006-01-05 Thread Michael Vince

Scott Mitchell wrote:


Hi all,

I may be getting a new Dell PE1850 soon, to replace our ancient CVS server
(still running 4-STABLE).  The new machine will ideally run 6.0 and have a
PERC4e/DC RAID card - the one with battery-backed cache.  This is listed as
supported by amr(4), but I'm wondering how well it actually works in the
case of a disk failure.  Will the driver tell me that disk has failed (a
syslog message would be enough) or will I have to make a daily trip into
the server room to check the front panel lights?  Presumably it handles
hot-swapping a replacement drive OK?

I found some posts mentioning some management/monitoring tools for these
controllers that were allegedly available from the www.lsilogic.com
website, but I can't find anything on there for FreeBSD.  Do the Linux
tools work?
 

FYI there also has been a big update to the amr driver which claims to 
dramatically increase performance among other things, interestingly 
enought it was augmented by Yahoo, I can only assume they are moving to 
Dell, yahoo for me (and now you :).
The updates are still in -current but it will be MFC'ed into stable 
sooner or later.


http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2005-December/056814.html

 Log:
 Mega update to the LSI MegaRAID driver:
 
 1.  Implement a large set of ioctl shims so that the Linux management apps

 from LSI will work.  This includes infrastructure to support adding, deleting
 and rescanning arrays at runtime.  This is based on work from Doug Ambrosko,
 heavily augmented by LSI and Yahoo.
 
 2.  Implement full 64-bit DMA support.  Systems with more than 4GB of RAM

 can now operate without the cost of bounce buffers.  Cards that cannot do
 64-bit DMA will automatically revert to using bounce buffers.  This option
 can be forced off by setting the 'hw.amr.force_sg32 tunable in the loader.
 It should only be turned off for debugging purposes.  This work was sponsored
 by Yahoo.
 
 3.  Streamline the command delivery and interrupt handler paths after

 much discussion with Dell and LSI.  The logic now closely matches the
 intended design, making it both more robust and much faster.  Certain
 i/o failures under heavy load should be fixed with this.
 
 4.  Optimize the locking.  In the interrupt handler, the card can be checked

 for completed commands without any locks held, due to the handler being
 implicitely serialized and there being no need to look at any shared data.
 Only grab the lock to return the command structure to the free pool.  A
 small optimization can still be made to collect all of the completions
 together and then free them together under a single lock.
 
 Items 3 and 4 significantly increase the performance of the driver.  On an

 LSI 320-2X card, transactions per second went from 13,000 to 31,000 in my
 testing with these changes.  However, these changes are still fairly
 experimental and shouldn't be merged to 6.x until there is more testing.
 
 Thanks to Doug Ambrosko, LSI, Dell, and Yahoo for contributing towards

 this.




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Re: RELENG_6: Which scheduler for SMP?

2005-12-29 Thread Michael Vince

Mark Ovens wrote:

I've never had any success with the ULE scheduler on my dual Athlon 
box running RELENG_5; it was so unstable it made Windows 3.1 look 
stable. In fact my current build, cvsup'd a couple of days ago, won't 
even boot with ULE.


From what I remember, ULE was intended to become the default scheduler 
during the life of 5.0 but that hasn't happened.


I've just cvsup'd the source for RELENG_6 and I'm surprised to find in 
the GENERIC config file:


#optionsSCHED_ULE# ULE scheduler
options SCHED_4BSD# 4BSD scheduler

so it seems 4BSD is still the default scheduler. Is ULE _still_ 
considered to be in development/experimental? Even the SMP config file 
doesn't use ULE.


Also in GENERIC:

options PREEMPTION# Enable kernel thread preemption

[]

options ADAPTIVE_GIANT  # Giant mutex is adaptive.

Yet in src/sys/conf/NOTES, ADAPTIVE_GIANT is listed under SMP Options 
and  PREEMPTION is listed under SMP Debugging Options which makes it 
surprising that they are in the GENERIC config file.


What I am trying to decide is whether there any point in making the 
jump from a very stable RELENG_5 system to RELENG_6. AIUI the ULE 
scheduler and it's associated options optimize the use of multiple 
CPUs and by staying with 4BSD I'm not getting the best performance 
from my system.


Can anyone offer any advice on this please?

The machine has dual Athlon MP2800s on a Asus A7M266-D mobo, 1Gbyte 
ECC RAM and all SCSI disks and optical drives.



I have been benchmarking a Java servlet under ULE, and I couldn't get 
result scores as high under ULE as I could under the regular the 4BSD 
(although it wasn't far off) and when I left the machine benchmarking 
all night under ULE I came back in the morning to find the machine 
unresponsive and in need of a hard reboot.


Mike

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Re: Reduced java/tomcat performance 6-beta3 - 6-stable ?

2005-11-30 Thread Michael Vince
Some apps that use of frequent queries of the system time for example 
MySQL are well known in FreeBSD to be slower then Linux because its  
more expensive to call compared to Linux, maybe Tomcat is also another 
such app this can also be double the case depending on on your jsp and 
servlet code.
If you are on good hardware, are using 6 and keep your systems time 
updated via ntp you might want to try changing from 
kern.timecounter.hardware: ACPI-fast to TSC(-100) and doing a benchmark 
this has already proven to increase performance of MySQL by a 
significantly amount.
Also some new experimental low-precision time code has been added to 
current source tree to see how much performance increases can be gained, 
weirdly enough some people have argued against it for I guess a wide 
range of reasons such as they just have crap hardware and don't care 
about performance, don't like the extra maintenance of code or just like 
Red Hat fanatics having an easy way to bad mouth FreeBSD performance. I 
think most people would agree though that it has to be done, or have to 
choose to believe FreeBSD isn't about performance among other goals.


With 6 you can also use the new thr threading library, try your 
libmap.conf to libthr for testing, for example

[/usr/local/jdk1.4.2/]
libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2
libpthread.so   libthr.so

I been doing some 'ab' testing libthr with Apache2 compiled for worker 
MPM and have some really interesting differences on server load, loads 
of about 40 for pthread and around 5 thr under certain tests with ab 
with the exact same test.


Mike


Eirik Øverby wrote:

Update: The diff below was made after making sure both systems are  
running the exact same kernel. Behavior is the same. Building new  
kernels (6-STABLE) now to get out of the BETA stage.


/Eirik

On Nov 28, 2005, at 22:53 , Eirik Øverby wrote:


Firmware versions are equal. BIOS settings are equal.
However, a diff of the dmesgs show (apart from MAC address  
differences):


30c30
 Timecounter ACPI-safe frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
---
 Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000

What on earth is that all about? The slow box has the ACPI-fast  
timecounter...


/Eirik

On Nov 28, 2005, at 22:14 , Kris Kennaway wrote:


On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:54:30PM +0100, Eirik ?verby wrote:


Hi,

I think I have found the culprit. There must be some sort of
difference between the machines after all (BIOS revision?), because
while on one machine the interrupt rate for the bge card stays very
low (2 to be exact) during maximum load, the other machine goes
beyond 1000 and keeps rising constantly. This might also explain why
performance slowly degrades over time on that machine, and response
times vary wildly, while the fast machine responds nicely within
1-2 seconds no matter the load and testing time.

I will have to investigate this more closely. Is there a way to  force
the NIC to polling mode (I'm assuming that is the difference, an IRQ
rate of 2 is too low for a heavily loaded server if the NIC is
interrupt-driven)?

Anything else I could look at?



BIOS update.

Kris







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Re: Rotating web server logs without restarting Apache

2005-11-24 Thread Michael Vince

Ladislav Bodnar wrote:


Hi,

Every time my httpd-access.log file is rotated I need to restart Apache, 
otherwise it won't write into the new httpd-access.log file.


Is there a way for Apache (version 2.0.55 on FreeBSD 6.0) to write to the 
new log file without the need to restart it? I restart it routinely from a 
cron job, but occasionally Apache fails to restart (or more precisely, if 
fails to shutdown completely before it is told to come up again).


Thank you very much for your help.
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Maybe I am missing something here but can't you use rotatelogs?
I use it to rotate logs every day with apache2 and I never restart Apache.

Mike

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Re: New user confused by need to do huge upgrade

2005-11-07 Thread Michael VInce

Alistair wrote:


Hello, All

I am a user of Linux for many years (and an aged BSD sysadmin from 
1985-1989), but laterly mainly use Gentoo.  FreeBSD seemed to be a 
good alternative, so I get the 6.0 release a few days after it was 
released.


Being a Gentoo person, I like the ports system, but with limited time 
on my hands, I also like the compiled packages.  I can get a working 
system from packages then compile my own ports as need or want be.  Or 
so I thought.


I installed from two CDs, and got a working KDE system.  Now, I want 
to do Firefox from ports with my own make.conf for P4 optimisation.  
Good!  So, I sync with the sources using cvsup (just like emerge 
--sync) change to the Firefox ports directory, type make and enter 
dependency hell like has never been known before.  Everything that 
depends upon GTK2 must be updated before Firefox can be compiled!


I thought that FreeBSD would be more stable than Gentoo and Linux 
distros in general.  I now find that there is the most major release 
step (5.4 to 6.0) and within a matter of a few days later, both Gnome 
and KDE are subject to huge updates that require many hours (or maybe 
days - it's not done yet) of CPU time.


Maybe I am missing something.  However, I just cannot see why this is 
right. What I thought that FreeBSD would give me that Gentoo did not 
is a coherent system within which deveopment was co-ordinated. 
Instead, I seem to find the opposite.  The core group can offer a 
major release of the OS, while missing the fact that two hugely 
important development groups are just days off their own major releases.


Maybe there is a level of sanity I am missing as a newcomer to BSD, 
but I would really like someone to tell me where to find it so that I 
can stop having to use this bloody Windows laptop to post here ;-)



Check out the UPDATING notes for anything about KDE
cat /usr/ports/UPDATING | grep -A 13 -B 3 kde | grep -A 14 20051105

Update your ports tree, then portupgrade your KDE packages,
portupgrade -Rk /var/db/pkg/kde-3.4.2
Go to sleep and wake up with the latest KDE and feel good about the fact 
that you aren't stealing from SCO compared to using Gentoo Linux :)


Mike





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Re: Network performance 6.0 with netperf

2005-10-20 Thread Michael VInce
Here is my probably final round of tests that I thought could possible 
be useful to others.


I have enabled polling on the interfaces and discovered some of the 
master secret holy grail sysctls that really make this stuff work.

I now get over 900mbits/sec router performance with polling.

Having sysctl either net.isr.direct=1 or net.inet.ip.fastforwarding=1 
gave roughly an extra 445mbits performance increase according to netperf 
tests, because my tests aren't really lab strict enough I still haven't 
been able to easily see a difference between having net.isr.direct=1 or 
0 while also having net.inet.ip.fastforwarding set to 1, it does appear 
that having net.isr.direct=1 might be stealing the job of the 
net.inet.ip.fastforwarding sysctl because when 
net.inet.ip.fastforwarding=0 and net.isr.direct=1 on the gateway I still 
get the 905.48mbit/sec route speed listed below.


From the client machine (A) through the gateway (B with polling 
enabled) to the server (C)

With net.isr.direct=1 and net.inet.ip.fastforwarding=1
A /usr/local/netperf/netperf -l 10 -H server-C -t TCP_STREAM -i 10,2 -I 
99,5 -- -m 4096 -s 57344 -S 57344

Elapsed Throughput - 10^6bits/sec: 905.48

With net.isr.direct=0 and net.inet.ip.fastforwarding=0
Elapsed Throughput - 10^6bits/sec: 460.15

Apache get 'fetch' test.
A fetch -o -  /dev/null http://server-C/file1gig.iso
- 100% of 1055 MB   67 MBps 
00m00s


Interestingly when testing from the gateway it self (B) direct to server 
(C) having 'net.isr.direct=1'  slowed down performance to 583mbits/sec
B /usr/local/netperf/netperf -l 10 -H server-C -t TCP_STREAM -i 10,2 -I 
99,5 -- -m 4096 -s 57344 -S 57344

Elapsed Throughput - 10^6bits/sec: 583.57

Same test with 'net.isr.direct=0'
Elapsed Throughput - 10^6bits/sec: 868.94
I have to ask how can this be possible if when its being used as a 
router with net.isr.direct=1 it passes traffic at over 900mbits/sec
Having net.inet.ip.fastforwarding=1 doesn't affect the performance in 
these B to C tests.


I believe faster performance may still be possible as another rack of 
gear I have that has another AMD64 6.0 RC1 Dell 2850 (Kes) gives me up 
to 930mbits/sec in apache fetch tests, I believe its even faster here 
because its an AMD64 Apache server or its possible it could just have a 
bit better quality ether cables, as I mentioned before the Apache server 
for box C in above tests is i386 on 6.0RC1.


This fetch test is only on a switch with no router between them.
spin fetch -o -  /dev/null http://kes/500megs.zip
- 100% of  610 MB   93 MBps

So far from this casual testing I have discovered these things on my 
servers.
Using 6.0 on SMP servers gives a big boost in network performance over 
5.x SMP using i386 or AMD64
FreeBSD as router on gigabit ethernet with the use of polling gives over 
x2 performance with the right sysctls.
Needs more testing but it appears using AMD64 FreeBSD might be better 
then i386 for Apache2 network performance on SMP kernels.
Single interface speeds tests from the router with polling enabled and 
with 'net.isr.direct=1' appears to affect performance.


Regards,
Mike

Michael VInce wrote:


Robert Watson wrote:



On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Michael VInce wrote:

I been doing some network benchmarking using netperf and just simple 
'fetch' on a new network setup to make sure I am getting the most 
out of the router and servers, I thought I would post some results 
in case some one can help me with my problems or if others are just 
interested to see the results.




Until recently (or maybe still), netperf was compiled with 
-DHISTOGRAM by our port/package, which resulted in a significant 
performance drop.  I believe that the port maintainer and others have 
agreed to change it, but I'm not sure if it's been committed yet, or 
which packages have been rebuilt.  You may want to manually rebuild 
it to make sure -DHISTOGRAM isn't set.


You may want to try setting net.isr.direct=1 and see what performance 
impact that has for you.


Robert N M Watson



I reinstalled the netperf to make sure its the latest.

I have also decided to upgrade Server-C (the i386 5.4 box) to 6.0RC1 
and noticed it gave a large improvement of network performance with a 
SMP kernel.


As with the network setup ( A --- B --- C  ) with server B being the 
gateway, doing a basic 'fetch' from the gateway (B) to the Apache 
server (C) it gives up to 700mbits/sec transfer performance, doing a 
fetch from server A thus going through the gateway gives slower but 
still decent performance of up to 400mbits/sec.


B fetch -o -  /dev/null http://server-c/file1gig.iso
- 100% of 1055 MB   69 
MBps 00m00s



A fetch -o -  /dev/null http://server-c/file1gig.iso
- 100% of 1055 MB   39 
MBps 00m00s


Netperf from the gateway directly to the apache server (C) 916mbits/sec
B /usr

Re: Network performance 6.0 with netperf

2005-10-20 Thread Michael VInce

Sten Daniel Sørsdal wrote:


Michael VInce wrote:

 


I reinstalled the netperf to make sure its the latest.

I have also decided to upgrade Server-C (the i386 5.4 box) to 6.0RC1 and
noticed it gave a large improvement of network performance with a SMP
kernel.

As with the network setup ( A --- B --- C  ) with server B being the
gateway, doing a basic 'fetch' from the gateway (B) to the Apache server
(C) it gives up to 700mbits/sec transfer performance, doing a fetch from
server A thus going through the gateway gives slower but still decent
performance of up to 400mbits/sec.
   



Are you by any chance using PCI NIC's? PCI Bus is limited to somewhere around 1 
Gbit/s.
So if you consider;
Theoretical maxium = ( 1Gbps - pci_overhead )

 

The 4 ethernet ports on the Dell server are all built-in so I am 
assuming they are on the best bus available.


Mike
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Re: Network performance 6.0 with netperf

2005-10-20 Thread Michael VInce



On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 04:26:31PM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
 


At 10:49 PM +1000 2005-10-20, Michael VInce wrote:

   


 The 4 ethernet ports on the Dell server are all built-in so I am assuming
 they are on the best bus available.
 



	In my experience, the terms Dell and best available very 
rarely go together.


	Dell has made a name for themselves by shipping the absolutely 
cheapest possible hardware they can, with the thinnest possible 
profit margins, and trying to make up the difference in volume. 
Issues like support, ease of management, freedom from overheating, 
etc... get secondary or tertiary consideration, if they get any 
consideration at all.


But maybe that's just me.

--
Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   


I think that's unfair.


I have a couple of Dell machines and my biggest complaint with them 
has been

their use of proprietary bolt patterns for their motherboards and similar
tomfoolery, preventing you from migrating their hardware as your needs 
grow.


This also guarantees that your $75 power supply becomes a $200 one 
once the

warranty ends - good for them, not good for you.

Other than that, I've been pretty happy with their stuff. Sure beats a lot
of other PC vendors out there in terms of reliability, heat management,
BIOS updates, etc.

--
--
Karl Denninger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Internet Consultant  Kids Rights 
Activist


I have to agree Karl,
Those slots aren't proprietary there PCI Express.
When I went to open the machine up to put in a PCI multi serial card all 
I saw were those little modern mean looking PCI Express slots which have 
the ability to scare any techie, there are no old PCI slots on it, I had 
to dump my serial card and change over to usb2serial converters by 
loading the ucom and uplcom as kernel modules so I could use tip to 
serial out of usb into the single serial port on the Dell machines when 
the ethernet is down which ended up working out great, I will never need 
clunky old (and price) multi port PCI serial cards again.


If you look at the chipset Intel E7520 of the Dell 1850/2850 (The 2850 
is really just a bigger case machine to hold more drives)

http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/embedded/e7520.htm
You will see it just only has PCI Express as a minimum which is 
64bit/133mhz which does a minimum of 2.5GBs/sec in 1 direction and its a 
switched based bus technology where there is no sharing of the lanes,

there is no old school PCI 32bit/33mhz buses.
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1087page=3

As for service, I actually ordered two much smaller Dell 750's but 
because there were out of them for a couple of weeks due to some big 
company ordering 500 of them I had a bit of an argue with the Dell guy 
on the phone and got 1850s with scsi raid 1 out of him for the same price.
Its been Dell that has shown me how good (and maybe a bit evil) big 
companies can be.



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Re: Network performance 6.0 with netperf

2005-10-19 Thread Michael VInce

Robert Watson wrote:



On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Michael VInce wrote:

I been doing some network benchmarking using netperf and just simple 
'fetch' on a new network setup to make sure I am getting the most out 
of the router and servers, I thought I would post some results in 
case some one can help me with my problems or if others are just 
interested to see the results.



Until recently (or maybe still), netperf was compiled with -DHISTOGRAM 
by our port/package, which resulted in a significant performance 
drop.  I believe that the port maintainer and others have agreed to 
change it, but I'm not sure if it's been committed yet, or which 
packages have been rebuilt.  You may want to manually rebuild it to 
make sure -DHISTOGRAM isn't set.


You may want to try setting net.isr.direct=1 and see what performance 
impact that has for you.


Robert N M Watson


I reinstalled the netperf to make sure its the latest.

I have also decided to upgrade Server-C (the i386 5.4 box) to 6.0RC1 and 
noticed it gave a large improvement of network performance with a SMP 
kernel.


As with the network setup ( A --- B --- C  ) with server B being the 
gateway, doing a basic 'fetch' from the gateway (B) to the Apache server 
(C) it gives up to 700mbits/sec transfer performance, doing a fetch from 
server A thus going through the gateway gives slower but still decent 
performance of up to 400mbits/sec.


B fetch -o -  /dev/null http://server-c/file1gig.iso
- 100% of 1055 MB   69 MBps 
00m00s



A fetch -o -  /dev/null http://server-c/file1gig.iso
- 100% of 1055 MB   39 MBps 
00m00s


Netperf from the gateway directly to the apache server (C) 916mbits/sec
B /usr/local/netperf/netperf -l 20 -H server-C -t TCP_STREAM -i 10,2 -I 
99,5 -- -m 4096 -s 57344 -S 57344

Elapsed Throughput - 10^6bits/sec: 916.50

Netperf from the client machine through the gateway to the apache server 
(C) 315mbits/sec
A /usr/local/netperf/netperf -l 10 -H server-C -t TCP_STREAM -i 10,2 -I 
99,5 -- -m 4096 -s 57344 -S 57344

Elapsed Throughput - 10^6bits/sec: 315.89

Client to gateway netperf test shows the direct connection between these 
machines is fast. 912mbits/sec
A /usr/local/netperf/netperf -l 30 -H server-B -t TCP_STREAM -i 10,2 -I 
99,5 -- -m 4096 -s 57344 -S 5734

Elapsed Throughput - 10^6bits/sec: 912.11

The strange thing now is in my last post I was able to get faster speeds 
from server A to C with 'fetch' tests on non-smp kernels and slower 
speeds with netperf tests. Now I get speeds a bit slower with fetch 
tests but faster netperf speed tests with or without SMP on server-C.


I was going to test with 'net.isr.dispatch' but the sysctl doesn't 
appear to exist, doing this returns nothing.

'sysctl -a | grep 'net.isr.dispatch'

I also tried polling but its also like that doesn't exist either.
ifconfig em3 inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.224 polling
ifconfig: polling: Invalid argument

When doing netperf tests there was high interrupt usage.
CPU states:  0.7% user,  0.0% nice, 13.5% system, 70.0% interrupt, 15.7% 
idle


Also the server B is using its last 2 gigabit ethernet ports which are 
listed from pciconf -lv as '82547EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller'

While the first 2 are listed as 'PRO/1000 P'
Does any one know if the PRO/1000P would be better?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:4:0:   class=0x02 card=0x118a8086 chip=0x108a8086 rev=0x03 
hdr=0x00

   vendor   = 'Intel Corporation'
   device   = 'PRO/1000 P'

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8:0:   class=0x02 card=0x016d1028 chip=0x10768086 rev=0x05 
hdr=0x00

   vendor   = 'Intel Corporation'
   device   = '82547EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller'

Cheers,
Mike





The network is currently like this, where machines A and B are the 
Dell 1850s and C is the 2850 x 2 CPU (Server C has Apache2 worker MPM 
on it) and server B is the gateway and A is acting as a client for 
fetch and netperf tests.

A --- B --- C
The 2 1850s are running AMD64 Freebsd 6.0rc1 (A and B) while C is 
running 5.4-stable i386 from Oct 12


My main problem is that if I compile SMP into the machine C 
(5.4stable) the network speed goes down to a range between 
6mbytes/sec to 15mbytes/sec on SMP.
If I use GENERIC kernel the performance goes up to what I have show 
below which is around 65megabytes/sec for a 'fetch' get test from 
Apache server and 933mbits/sec for netperf.

Does any know why why network performance would be so bad on SMP?

Does any one think that if I upgrade the i386 SMP server to 6.0RC1 
the SMP network performance would improve? This server will be 
running java so I need it to be stable and is the the reason I am 
using i386 and Java 1.4


I am happy with performance of direct machine to machine (non SMP) 
which is pretty much full 1gigabit/sec speeds.
Going through the gateway server-B seems to drop its speed down a bit 
for in and out direction tcp speed tests using netperf I get around 
266mbits/sec from server A through

Network performance 6.0 with netperf

2005-10-14 Thread Michael VInce

Hey all,
I been doing some network benchmarking using netperf and just simple 
'fetch' on a new network setup to make sure I am getting the most out of 
the router and servers,  I thought I would post some results in case 
some one can help me with my problems or if others are just interested 
to see the results.


The network is currently like this, where machines A and B are the Dell 
1850s and C is the 2850 x 2 CPU (Server C has Apache2 worker MPM on it) 
and server B is the gateway and A is acting as a client for fetch and 
netperf tests.

A --- B --- C
The 2 1850s are running AMD64 Freebsd 6.0rc1 (A and B) while C is 
running 5.4-stable i386 from Oct 12


My main problem is that if I compile SMP into the machine C (5.4stable) 
the network speed goes down to a range between 6mbytes/sec to 
15mbytes/sec on SMP.
If I use GENERIC kernel the performance goes up to what I have show 
below which is around 65megabytes/sec for a 'fetch' get test from Apache 
server and 933mbits/sec for netperf.

Does any know why why network performance would be so bad on SMP?

Does any one think that if I upgrade the i386 SMP server to 6.0RC1 the 
SMP network performance would improve? This server will be running java 
so I need it to be stable and is the the reason I am using i386 and Java 1.4


I am happy with performance of direct machine to machine (non SMP) which 
is pretty much full 1gigabit/sec speeds.
Going through the gateway server-B seems to drop its speed down a bit 
for in and out direction tcp speed tests using netperf I get around 
266mbits/sec from server A through gateway Server-B to server-C which is 
quite adequate for the link I currently have for it.


Doing a 'fetch' get for a 1gig file from the Apache server gives good 
speeds of close to 600mbits/sec but netperf shows its weakness with 
266mbits/sec.
This is as fast as I need it to be but does any one know the weak points 
on the router gateway to make it faster? Is this the performance I 
should expect for FreeBSD as a router with gigabit ethers?


I have seen 'net.inet.ip.fastforwarding' in some peoples router setups 
on the list but nothing about what it does or what it can affect.
I haven't done any testing with polling yet but if I can get over 
900mbits/sec on the interfaces does polling help with passing packets 
from one interface to the other?
All machines have PF running other then that they don't really have any 
sysctls or special kernel options.


Here are some speed benchmarks using netperf and 'fetch' gets.

Server A to server C with server C using SMP kernel and just GENERIC 
kernel further below


B# /usr/local/netperf/netperf -l 10 -H server-C -t TCP_STREAM -i 10,2 -I 
99,5 -- -m 4096 -s 57344 -S 57344

TCP STREAM TEST to server-C : +/-2.5% @ 99% conf. : histogram
Recv   SendSend
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
Size   SizeSize Time Throughput
bytes  bytes   bytessecs.10^6bits/sec

57344  57344   409610.06 155.99
tank# fetch -o -  /dev/null http://server-C/file1gig.iso
- 100% of 1055 MB   13 MBps 
00m00s


# Using generic non SMP kernel
Server A to server C with server C using GENERIC kernel.
A# fetch -o -  /dev/null http://server-C/file1gig.iso
- 100% of 1055 MB   59 MBps 
00m00s


A# ./tcp_stream_script server-C

/usr/local/netperf/netperf -l 60 -H server-C -t TCP_STREAM -i 10,2 -I 
99,5 -- -m 4096 -s 57344 -S 57344


Recv   SendSend
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
Size   SizeSize Time Throughput
bytes  bytes   bytessecs.10^6bits/sec

57344  57344   409660.43 266.92


###
Connecting from server-A to B (gateway)
A# ./tcp_stream_script server-B



/usr/local/netperf/netperf -l 60 -H server-B -t TCP_STREAM -i 10,2 -I 
99,5 -- -m 4096 -s 57344 -S 57344


TCP STREAM TEST to server-B : +/-2.5% @ 99% conf. : histogram
Recv   SendSend
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
Size   SizeSize Time Throughput
bytes  bytes   bytessecs.10^6bits/sec

57344  57344   409661.80 926.82


##
Connecting from server B (gateway) to server C
Fetch and Apache2 test
B# fetch -o -  /dev/null http://server-C/file1gig.iso
- 100% of 1055 MB   74 MBps 
00m00s


Netperf test
B# /usr/local/netperf/tcp_stream_script server-C

/usr/local/netperf/netperf -l 60 -H server-C -t TCP_STREAM -i 10,2 -I 
99,5 -- -m 4096 -s 57344 -S 57344


TCP STREAM TEST to server-C : +/-2.5% @ 99% conf. : histogram
Recv   SendSend
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
Size   SizeSize Time Throughput
bytes  bytes   bytessecs.10^6bits/sec

57344  57344   409662.20 933.94



Cheers,
Mike


Re: FYI - RELENG_6 branch has been created.

2005-07-18 Thread Michael VInce

   Wow thats a big jump from what I got in a test I did a couple of
   months ago, here is a copy and paste of an older email
   Are you using AMD64 mode or i386?
   Dell 1850 Dual CPU with 4 Gigs of ram, thats in idle
   CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3192.23-MHz 686-class CPU)
   FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p1 #0: Sun May 22 12:23:00
   EST 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP i386
   Ubench CPU:   170748
   Ubench MEM:   172775
   
   Ubench AVG:   171761
   Claus Guttesen wrote:

As a further FYI, a variety of debugging features are still enabled by
default in RELENG_6, including INVARINTS, WITNESS, and user space malloc
debugging.  These will remain enabled through the first snapshot from the


Not very scientific but here is my ubench on a dual nocona @ 2.8 GHz
and 4 GB RAM on a Dell 2850:

Sched_ule:

Current from July 6'th 2005:

Ubench CPU:   241149
Ubench MEM:   182695

Ubench AVG:   211922

6.0 stable pr. July 12'th 2005:

Ubench CPU:   243058
Ubench MEM:   186918

Ubench AVG:   214988

So slight increase in both cpu and ram in stable.

SCHED_4BSD and 6.0 stable pr. July 12'th 2005:

Ubench CPU:   260315
Ubench MEM:   189686

Ubench AVG:   225000

Here sched_4bsd performs approx. 5 % better on ubench.

regards
Claus
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Re: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4

2005-06-03 Thread Michael VInce

I have numerous Dell 1850s all with 4gigs of ram and SCSI in mirror 1 raid.
I feel I must of been very lucky because I have never had a single 
problem with these machines, 1 of them is under severe load.

I setup these machines in a different way then most people.
Because I run the machines in a remote hosting complex I order the Dell 
machines to the hosting complex and get the 'remote smart hands' to put 
the server in the my rack, enable the serial via bios then get them to 
plug in a serial cable into its single serial port and get them to drop 
in a i386 FreeBSD install disk so I can install remotely.

They use a generic kernel and have usbd_enable=YES set.
I have one 1850 thats got an uptime of 125 days and thats only since I 
last rebooted it.


Maybe because the USB ports have never really been used I have had 
better luck?


Mike

David Barnett wrote:


Gary,

I'm fighting the same battle on two new 2850's and two 1850's; Interrupt
storm detected on irq18:uhci2; throttling interrupt source.

These machines have 2GB of ram and I using the i386 5.4Rel. version.  
This happens
right after the reboot at the end of an install from CD.  I've chosen 
to install all,
and bring up the ethernet interface.  When I get the message, the 
machine is unresponsive
to keyboard input or pings; basically frozen.  I also tried 5.3 Rel. 
with the same results.


From searching the lists I concluded disabling USB might be worth 
trying, so I did that

in the BIOS.  I'm still getting the same message and freeze.

How are you disabling USB?  It seems that has worked for you.

One tidbit, they have the DRAC 4/I remote access controller cards in 
them, but I have no
reason to believe they're involved at this point.  Oh, and firmware is 
current throughout.


Thanks for any hints.

Dave Barnett


Gary Schrock wrote:


At 05:05 AM 6/1/2005, you wrote:

I have checked on the DELL site for any updates to the BIOS/Firmware 
and the

2 PE2850's are running the latest versions.

BIOS A02
Dell Backplane Firmware, v.1.00, A00
Dell BMC Firmware, v.1.23, A03
LSI Logic Perc 4e/Di, v.516A, A01

Both machines have the same symptoms or the reboots at random times.

I have now disabled the USB via rc.conf to see if the reboots still 
occur.
On one machine I shall drop the PAE kernel and see if that increases 
the

stability




We've been running a 2850 with dual processors for a while now, 
although we're only running 2G of ram.  I'm also running the i386 
verson of freebsd instead of amd64 (since I couldn't decide whether 
I'd really gain anything by running that version, especially with my 
low ram amount).  We did initially have a problem with our add-on 
perc4 controller, but that was obviously a problem with that 
controller, but after that was resolved, the only issue I've had with 
it is the usb interrupt storms.  Since we don't use usb on that 
system, I've just completely disabled it.  After that, it's run 
flawlessly for about 6 months now.



Regards

Danny

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinny Abello
Sent: 01 June 2005 05:10
To: Danny Cooper
Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4

What BIOS revision are you running in your 2850? Make sure all your
firmware is up to date. I had problems with an slightly older Dell
2650 trying to install FreeBSD until I flashed the latest RAID
controller firmware. If this doesn't help, try running some
diagnostics on the hardware. Dell has some pretty extensive
utilities. I think you can boot a Dell diagnostic CD you download
from their web site. It's possible you have bad RAM.

At 11:50 AM 5/31/2005, Danny Cooper wrote:
With the kernel I removed all non-required devices

Firewire, usb all the NIC's except em and removed all RAID and SCSI
controllers to make sure nothing would interfere.

I tried to boot with the AMD64 CD but with no success, the machine 
just
hangs when it tries to load the CD, still trying to work out a 
solution to
the problem, but it just seems these DELL 2850 machines are for 
Windows or

RedHat!!!

DC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claus Guttesen
Sent: 31 May 2005 16:15
To: Danny Cooper
Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: DELL PowerEdge 2850 and FreeBSD 5.4

  I have installed FreeBSD 5.4 RELEASE and upgraded to -STABLE on 
a DELL

  PE2850.
 
  FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #1: Wed May 25 23:43:12 BST 2005
  CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (3192.22-MHz 686-class CPU)
  real memory  = 5100273664 (4864 MB)
  avail memory = 4189892608 (3995 MB)
  MPTable: DELL PE 016D 
  FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
   cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
   cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  6
  amr0: LSILogic PERC 4e/Di Firmware 516A, BIOS H418, 256MB RAM
 
  I have disabled ACPI HTT and enabled PAE to make the whole 
system memory

  available.
 
  However the problem I have is the system can crash at any 
moment, and is


Re: FreeBSD 5.3 SMP freezes with MySQL 4.1

2005-03-30 Thread Michael Vince

   I am running 1 mildly busy new MySQL server thats running fine on
   5.3-RELEASE-p5 #5: Sat Jan 22 04:54:07 EST 2005 from the generic conf
   kernel
   Its a Dell 1850 Dual P4 Xeon CPU 3.00GHz EMT64 with HTT enabled
   FYI I actually have a Dell 2650 thats not doing anything at the moment
   because it had sluggish performance when I started  to put some
   serious burden on it.
   I recently updated to the latest MySQL to 4.1.10a from 4.1.5 with
   using this set of settings (I hate using ports manually)
   portupgrade -Rfri  -m 'BUILD_OPTIMIZED=yes BUILD_STATIC=yes'
   /var/db/pkg/mysql-server-4.1*
   I copied the default large.cnf file to /var/db/mysql/my.cnf for better
   performance but thats about it, I am still evaluating MySQL
   performance.

   To give you a remote idea how busy this MySQL server is, here are some
   bits running mysqladmin extended-status
   | Bytes_received   | 49227436   |
   | Bytes_sent   | 71933703   |
   | Threads_connected| 25 |
   | Threads_created  | 42 |
   | Uptime   | 101775 |
   According to MySQL manual Threads_created gives an idea of the load on
   the MySQL server.
   phpMyAdmin lists MySQL status in a much nicer way
   This MySQL server has been running for 1 days, 4 hours, 38 minutes and
   28 seconds.
   Query statistics: Since its startup, 335,544 queries have been sent to
   the server.

Total ø per hour   ø per minute   ø per second
335,54411,715.47 195.26   3.25

   select   204,621   7,144.31   61.04 %

   insert   29,149   1,017.73   8.70 %

show keys   85,395   2,981.55   25.48 %

   This server is doing more things then I originally planned it to do,
   its also running a Postgres 7.4 server that has over 500megs of data
   and almost constant 100% usage of disk IO according to top via m, I
   have statistics enabled on postgres but no way to show some simple
   summaries.
   I run Apache2 in prefork mode and currently has around 350 average
   apache daemons
   ps -auxww | grep -c httpd
   356
   Its doing over 1 million dynamic page loads a day (some page loads
   don't use database)
   This server also is running 12 separate Java processes each at around
   200megs of size.
   Since cvsuping to the latest 5_3 for release security patches and
   critical updates the server is been perfectly stable, before that I
   did have kernel panic reboot problems that I believe were caused be
   massive thread usage from the java processes.
   Although I have rebooted just a little while ago the servers uptime is
   currently 33days.
   With your server how have you been updating your server to 5.3-P5
   release? Its possible you have a similar problem.
   I am emailing this in HTML format in the hope the tables come out more
   nicely.
   Regards,
   Mike
   Young Lee wrote:

I have try your solution yesterday, so far it is stable, and will
observe the stability for some days. btw, i turn debug.mpsafenet=0 
in /boot/loader.conf to evade the possible network stack deadlock 
under SMP.

  
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Fetchyahoo does not get message IDs

2004-10-29 Thread Vince Refiti
Greetings

I would like some help with this. I am trying to use fetchyahoo to get
mail from Yahoo. It logs in OK, but never gets the message IDs and so
does not download any email messges. I am using the latest version,
fetchyahoo-2.8.6, all p5 mods are up-to-date as of a cvsup done on
29-Oct-2004, on a FBSD4.10,p3 machine.

The fetchyahoo output is:
Logging in securely via SSL as xxx on Fri Oct 29 19:54:49 2004
You are using 5% of your 100.0MB limit.
Country Code 'au' not found. We will try the translation for 'us'.
Successfully logged in as xxx.
Country code : au   Folder: Inbox   Version: 2.8.6
Only retrieving new messages
Getting Message ID(s) for message(s) 1 - 26.
Got 0 Message IDs

Finished downloading 0 messages.
0 message(s) have been deleted.
Logged out.

My .fetchyahoorc is as follows:

# FetchYahoo configuration file

# values in this file override values specified in the script itself
# but are in turn overridden by values specified on the commandline
# lines starting with # are ignored
# do NOT use any quotes around values
# values can include whitespace, but not at the end.

## SHOULD configure these  ##
username = xxx 
# this can be a password or an md5_hex hashed password
password = xxx 

# set this to 0 to turn off HTTPS and login insecurely via plaintext instead
use-https = 1 

## mail spool, mbox file and procmail configs ##

# set use-spool to 0 to disable outputting to a file/filter
use-spool = 1  
# if spoolName ends with a / we output in maildir format to that directory
spool = /home/xxx/Mail/Inbox

# spool-mode must be either append, pipe or overwrite
# use pipe for procmail or other filter and append for a normal spool
# ignored if spoolName is a maildir directory
spool-mode = append

## proxy configuration ##
# set use-proxy to 1 to enable use of a web proxy
use-proxy = 0
proxy-host = proxy.example.com
proxy-port = 80
proxy-username = proxyAuthenicationUserName
proxy-password = proxyAuthenicationPassword

## IMAP configuration ##
# set use-imap to 1 to enable output to an IMAP mailbox
use-imap = 0
imap-host = imap.example.com
imap-port = 143
imap-username = imap-user-name
imap-password = imap-password
imap-mailbox = INBOX

## mail forwarding configuration ##
# set use-forward to 1 to enable mail forwarding
use-forward = 0 

# set mail-host to your smtp outgoing mail server
mail-host = outgoing.example.com

# the e-mail addresses you want mail forwarded to
send-to = [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# the e-mail address used as the from address, this should probably be at the
# same ISP as the outgoing smtp mailhost specified above
send-from = [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# set this to 1 if you want to use sendmail to deliver messages
use-sendmail = 0
# set this to the location of your sendmail binary if you set the above to 1
sendmail = /usr/sbin/sendmail

## other configuration ##
# IMPORTANT Yahoo gives trouble when downloading over 100 messages at a time
# Setting this to more than 100 (or 0 for unlimited) may cause problems.
# max number of messages to download in one go
max-messages = 100

# set no-download to 1 to to not download  messages
# e.g. if this conf file is for removing Bulk Folder msgs without downloading
no-download = 0

# set new-messages-only to 1 to download only unread messages
new-messages-only = 1 

# set this to N to not download messages larger than N kb
# setting this to 0 turns off this check
max-size = 0

# set no-delete to 1 to not delete messages after dowloading 
# i.e. they will be left on Yahoo!'s mail servers
no-delete = 0 

# set this to the folder you want to download from eg Bulk
folder = Inbox

# set quiet to 1 to not output any regular (non-error) messages
quiet = 0

# set this to 1 to retrieve messages from external mailboxes too
get-external = 0

# set no-errors to 1 to not output any error messages
no-errors = 0

# list the messages seen in the mail folder
list-messages = 1 

# set either of these to 1 to enable mail checking before or after
downloading msgs
empty-trash-after = 0
empty-trash-before = 0

# set this to 1 to enable emptying the Bulk folder before fetching messages
empty-bulk = 0

# if this is 0, the program runs once and terminates
# Otherwise this is the number of minutes between successive mail checks.
repeat-interval = 0

# to leave messages as unread on the server, set this to 1
# this is only useful if no-delete is also set to 1
leave-unread = 0 

# if you are using a program/filter which does not expect a From_ line
# at the start of the message, set this to 1
no-from-line = 0

# set logout to 1 to make fetchyahoo logout after downloading messages
logout = 1 

# set status-only to 1 to only get the number of messages
status-only = 0

# set warning-level to 0 to not warn
# if 0, will print a warning if mailbox is = N% full
warning-level = 0

Thank you in advance
Vince
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Re: sk(4), 3C940 unknown reason hang

2004-10-07 Thread Michael Vince
Interestingly I just put on 5.3Beta 7 on an AMD64 based machine

and my sk0 interface hangs when I do some file transfers over to the
machine via scp
I just put an intel pci card in to fix the problem


Rong-En Fan wrote:

[I'm not on list, so please CC me thanks]

Hi,

It is a 4.10-RELEASE-p2 on IBM e225 (Dual P3-1G) and have a 3COM
3C940 installed on. Since it's installed one year ago, it has
3 or 4 times unknown reason network hang (no console messages)
and I have changed 3C940 to another one. The situation is still
the same. The solution is just `ifconfig down up' then sk(4)
goes back to work. It's our main nfs server and this problem
really annoying. I look at the cvsweb, seems no major problem
fix for RELENG_4 (HEAD fixs a LOR, and I suppose it's only for
5.x and HEAD). Is there any known problems? (I can't find one
similar to me on -net and -stable).

The recently once happened this morning, according to mrtg,
it has a high network traffic (both in and out). Not sure
if it is related.

Here is the dmesg:

skc0: 3Com 3C940 Gigabit Ethernet port 0x2100-0x21ff mem
0xfeb78000-0xfeb7bfff irq 5 at device 9.0 on pci0
skc0: 3Com Gigabit NIC (3C2000)
sk0: Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yukon on skc0
sk0: Ethernet address: 00:0a:5e:19:b6:3c

Any suggestion and kernel debugging I would like to try.

Regards,
Rong-En Fan
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Re: your mail

2003-02-15 Thread Vince Brammer
That makes sense ... My last kernel build was to cover a new nic. Im not
that familiar with modules yet , nor am I convinced they do any better than
compiling the code into the kernel. It was only after the last kernel that I
noticed this problem.

ThankYou

Vince

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Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: your mail


 On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 08:29:36PM -0500, qwix wrote:
  Hi ,
 
  I am having a problem with sockstat. Im not sure exactly
  what is causing it. I dont beleive I should be seeing all these
  question marks.

 [...]

  Any help would be much appreciated . My last build was from source
cvsup'd on jan 19, 03 . My last kernel build was with source cvsup'd on feb
2, 03.
 

 Your userland and kernel is out of sync. When you install a kernel
 using one set of sources, you *must* install the userland that came
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scp/sftp large file transfers always fail

2001-07-28 Thread Michael Vince

I have been trying to transfer large files over scp and sftp but they always
stall / time out and fail.
If they are small its ok like around 10megs its ok.
But when they are like 50megs or 300megs they ALWAYS fail!
I have tryed everything SSH built into freebsd.
ssh v3 and v2 from ssh.com.
SSH from /usr/ports/security/openssh-portable
I have tryed every cipher in ssh1 and ssh V2 and I had more luck transfering
files to the machine its connecting to but if I connect to a machine and scp
the file back it always files. I use key based authentication.
EG
-rw-r--r--   1 michael  michael  331808388 Jul 25 17:51 file.tar.gz
These are the typical commands I have used
scp -C [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/michael/file.tar.gz
/usr/home/michael/backups2/file.tar.gz
scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/michael/file.tar.gz
/usr/home/michael/backups2/file.tar.gz
And all the different possible ciphers
Then I will end up with this
file.tar.gz6% |
| 20392 KB  - stalled -
And then a timeout.
ssh 192.168.1.77 tar -cz -g $tardata $backupdirs -f -  | dd
of=$path/today/$servername-FULL-$date.tar.gz
or even sftp, they all fail.
I am using new hardware.. intel 100mbit cards on pentium 3 /celeron
machines.
Tryed on machine different machines and many different versions of stable
4.3
I just want to make it work! but everything I try fails, I am going crazying
trying to make this work! I dont want to have to make a compromise and use
something else I mean scp and sftp are for transfering files right?
And also why doesn't OpenSSH have DSA support for scp and sftp like
ssh.com's scp2 and sftp2?
I would really appreciate some help.

Thanks






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Re: printer question

2000-02-27 Thread Vince Vielhaber

On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Adam D. Marks wrote:

 Has anyone had any luck printing to a remote printer using jetdirect. I
 have a HP 2100 on a JetDirect EX Plus 3. The closest I got is with using
 rlpr but the format that is printed is messed up.

I'm using LPRng and printing to port 9100 (I think) on the printer.  Works
quite well on a number of different printer models.  IIRC there's a couple
of examples in the LPRng docs and they give the correct port number if I
guessed wrong.

Vince.
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Re: -lc vs. -lc_r (building Apache-PHP)

1999-12-27 Thread Vince Vielhaber


On 27-Dec-99 Chris Malayter wrote:
 Along this line of problems,
 
 I am having serious problems compileing a usable apache binary when
 compileing modphp with IMAP support.  It works fine for me when I just
 compile any other service or combination of services.  
 
 Here's the error:
 
 Configuring for Apache, Version 1.3.9
  + using installation path layout: Apache (config.layout)
  + activated php3 module (modules/php3/libphp3.a) Creating Makefile
 Creating Configuration.apaci in src Creating Makefile in src
  + configured for FreeBSD 3.4 platform
  + setting C compiler to gcc
  + setting C pre-processor to gcc -E
  + checking for system header files
  + adding selected modules
 o php3_module uses ConfigStart/End
  + checking sizeof various data types
  + doing sanity check on compiler and options ** A test compilation with
 your Makefile configuration ** failed. This is most likely because your C
 compiler ** is not ANSI. Apache requires an ANSI C Compiler, such ** as
 gcc. The above error message from your compiler ** will also provide a
 clue.
  Aborting!
 venus#

Trying this again, hopefully that last one didn't go out (it was content
free).

I've seen this many times.  Part of the problem is that apache's configure
script won't pass --verbose to it's helper scripts which only leaves you
clueless as to what's happening.  

If you go into the src directory and and run the following:

$ ./helpers/TestCompile -v sanity

you'll see the reason why it won't compile.  9 times out of 10 it's caused
by a header file in the wrong place -  or apache not knowing where it is.
I don't recall what I did to fix it, but it was probably something like
copying the file to a standard directory or creating a symlink.

Vince.
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