[Freedos-user] UIDE driver help
Hello, I am trying to set up support for a cd/dvd drive on my freedos. I am using vbox on a mac running freedos as my operating system. I want to be able to use my cd/dvd drive on my MacBook pro laptop. I have the drivers for UIDE. I have read the readme file, but it is very technical. I could use some help loading the drivers. Do I have to edit my config.sys file? Do I put the drivers, that I downloaded on my c drive? I could use some help, my goal is to be able to access my cd/dvd drive on my mac while in freedos. Like I could put in a cd and then in freedos change to drive a or b or whatever letter is assigned the cd drive and access a cd in my MacBook pro cd drive. Any help would be appreciated. Sent from my iPhone -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] UIDE
Hi Jack Ellis and others, I also have a couple of questions about UIDE. Question 1. Can we continue using the /PM switch with the new release of UIDE? The reason I'm asking is that new README.TXT file does not mention it anymore (except in the Revision Summary). Question 2. Readme.Txt says Power-saving features such as a 'drive spin-down timeout' should be DISABLED. My setup (AMIBIOS Version 2.5, 1997) does not have a feature with that specific name, but it does have: Hard Disk Time Out Is that what I should disable? If so, does this mean that the hard disk must keep running all the time if UIDE is used? The setup also has the following: Hard Disk Power Down Mode Standby Time Out Suspend Time Out Are these three also involved? Currently my pertinent FDCONFIG.SYS lines are: BUFFERS=4 ; (Recommended by Jack Ellis) devicehigh=C:\FDOS\UIDE\uide.sys /S40 Thanks, Marcos -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE driver help
Op 12-5-2011 16:13, James Collins schreef: I want to be able to use my cd/dvd drive on my MacBook pro laptop. I have the drivers for UIDE. I have read the readme file, but it is very technical. I could use some help loading the drivers. Do I have to edit my config.sys file? Do I put the drivers, that I downloaded on my c drive? I could use some help, my goal is to be able to access my cd/dvd drive on my mac while in freedos. Like I could put in a cd and then in freedos change to drive a or b or whatever letter is assigned the cd drive and access a cd in my MacBook pro cd drive. Loading support for optical disc drives (CD/DVD/BD) by itself is quite simple really: * add a line in CONFIG.SYS (or FDCONFIG.SYS, whichever you're using) as follows: DEVICE=C:\FDOS\UIDE.SYS /D:FDCD0001 * add a line in AUTOEXEC.BAT as follows: C:\FDOS\SHSUCDX /D:FDCD0001 Where exactly you add each line to each file is your own decision, doesn't matter much. Make sure the FDCD0001 or whichever name you choose, is equal for both UIDE and SHSUCDX However as UIDE is also able to cache/buffer drives, it expects some XMS memory provided by for example HIMEM.EXE. In effect: DEVICE=C:\FDOS\HIMEM.EXE DEVICE=C:\FDOS\UIDE.SYS /D:FDCD0001 However it might also be possible to disable the cache entirely, and thus let UIDE work as a basic (CD) driver without requiring XMS memory or XMS driver: DEVICE=C:\FDOS\UIDE.SYS /D:FDCD0001 /N1 /N3 /B Above things should work fine, if not let the mailing list know. Both UIDE and SHSUCDX have many options and a lot of documentation if you'd like to know more. Ofcourse if your CD drive isn't presented in Virtualbox as being on an SATA/IDE controller/port, UIDE won't be much help. -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] CHKDSK on floppy
This is CHKDSK beta 0.9.1 If there is a sub-directory present on a floppy, CHKDSK report seems normal. If there is no sub-directory - whether or not there are files: Assertion failed: size, file bitfield.c, line 34 Abnormal program termination Is this to be expected? Ray -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] if not exist MD XXX
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[Freedos-user] UIDE
Marcos, I also have a couple of questions about UIDE. Question 1. Can we continue using the /PM switch with the new release of UIDE? You can, but it will be ignored! I deleted the protected mode logic from UIDE in 2010, as the standard UIDE using XMS caching became 96% as fast as the /P and /PM caches, from better handling of XMS memory. No further need for the protected mode logic! Question 2. Readme.Txt says Power-saving features such as a 'drive spin-down timeout' should be DISABLED. My setup (AMIBIOS Version 2.5, 1997) does not have a feature with that specific name, but it does have: Hard Disk Time Out Is that what I should disable? Yes. Hard disk time-outs are not part of the ATA disk spec, and many laptop vendors have unusual schemes for supporting them. So, there is no way I can program UIDE for all of that! If so, does this mean that the hard disk must keep running all the time if UIDE is used? Correct, for the reason I note above. The setup also has the following: Hard Disk Power Down Mode Standby Time Out Suspend Time Out Are these three also involved? Yes. ANYTHING that would cause a hard-disk or CD/DVD drive to appear not ready for extended time spans should be disabled! Currently my pertinent FDCONFIG.SYS lines are: BUFFERS=4 ; (Recommended by Jack Ellis) devicehigh=C:\FDOS\UIDE\uide.sys /S40 Looks good to me! I recommend BUFFERS=4, since UIDE caches all directory sectors it handles, as well as data files.This performs MUCH better than the DOS BUFFERS= command, unless one can set BUFFERS=32 or more, which gives a slight increase in speed even with UIDE. But few systems can spare the HMA memory for BUFFERS=32, so using UIDE is the better bargain! Also, do try /S50 or /S100, if you can afford 50-MB or 100-MB of XMS memory assigned to UIDE. /S40 sets only 1280 cache blocks, while the 50/100-MB caches have 1600 cache blocks. More blocks gives better directory handling, as there are a LOT of directory sectors handled by DOS, and extra cache blocks help with them. Jack R. Ellis -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] UIDE
Hi Jack, Thanks :-) Marcos -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] UIDE driver help
James, I am the author of the UIDE and UIDEJR drivers, and I will try to answer your questions. I am trying to set up support for a cd/dvd drive on my freedos. I am using vbox on a mac running freedos as my operating system. I assume your vbox responds the same as a true PC system. If it does not, UIDE/UIDEJR may not work, as they interrogate the PCI BIOS to find what controllers and hard-disks are present. I want to be able to use my cd/dvd drive on my MacBook pro laptop. I have the drivers for UIDE. I have read the readme file, but it is very technical. I could use some help loading the drivers. Do note Section 5 of the README file, which gives samples of the commands needed in CONFIG.SYS, or FDCONFIG.SYS in your case, for loading UIDE. Do I have to edit my config.sys file? Yes, you do. At least a command similar to the following must be added to it, for loading UIDE -- DEVICE=C:\DRIVERS\UIDE.SYS /S100 /D:MYCDROM If you want only a basic non-caching driver, you can load UIDEJR [i.e. junior UIDE] using the same type of CONFIG.SYS line -- DEVICE=C:\DRIVERS\UIDEJR.SYS /D:MYCDROM The /D: name must be the same as given to SHSUCDX or SHCDX33E (my equivalent CD/DVD manager), so the two programs can communicate correctly re: the CD/DVD drives they handle. Also, since UIDEJR is not a caching driver, it needs no /S cache-size switch. Do I put the drivers, that I downloaded on my c: drive? They can be on any drive or in any directory you like, as long as the DEVICE= in your command line tells FreeDOS exactly where they are. I could use some help, my goal is to be able to access my cd/dvd drive on my mac while in freedos. Like I could put in a cd and then in freedos change to drive a or b or whatever letter is assigned the cd drive and access a cd in my MacBook pro cd drive. If you intend only occasional use of CD/DVD files, you may want to download my latest 10-May-2011 DRIVERS.ZIP file from -- http://johnson.tmfc.net/dos/driver.html Johnson Lam has been my partner since 2004 in testing and distri- buting the drivers, and his above website still hosts the drivers for me. In the 10-May-2011 DRIVERS.ZIP, the latest UIDEJR.SYS driver takes only 2032 bytes of memory in its CD/DVD only form, loaded as -- DEVICE=C:\DRIVERS\UIDEJR.SYS /D:MYCDROM /N1 The /N1 switch tells it No hard-disks and saves about 1100 bytes of memory, i.e. it omits disk logic and runs only CD/DVD drives. The latest UIDEJR is not particular re: being loaded with an XMS manager, e.g. HIMEM or my own XMGR.If an XMS manager is there, UIDEJR using the above command-line requests 128K of XMS memory as its I-O buffer. The buffer is used only when UltraDMA may NOT be used, as when a DOS program does input to an odd address buffer, etc. If XMS is unavailable, UIDEJR will handle such misaligned CD/DVD input using old PIO mode [Programmed input-output, i.e. SLOW!]. The above DEVICE= command always places the driver in low memory i.e. in the original 640K of DOS memory. If you use DEVICEHIGH= instead, the driver can be loaded into upper memory beyond 640K. Doing so requires an XMS manager and either (A) the UMBPCI driver, which can map system Shadow RAM into the 640K to 1-MB area, or (B) one of the EMM drivers such as JEMMEX, or the combination of HIMEMX + JEMM386 or my own XMGR + JEMM386, which can map regular memory into the 640K to 1-MB range.UMBPCI is simpler, but more limited in functionality (complex subject!), so if you want to use upper-memory, a better choice is an XMS manager and an EMM driver, or the combined JEMMEX. Upper memory schemes are admittely a lot more complicated!If you are new to FreeDOS, loading UIDEJR just as I show above will handle your CD/DVD files O.K. Do remember to load either SHSUCDX, my own SHCDX33E, or MSCDEX, in your AUTOEXEC.BAT file. UIDE/UIDEJR are only the drivers for a CD/DVD drive -- Its file manager is one of the above 3 programs! You need to add a line in AUTOEXEC similar to -- C:\DRIVERS\SHSUCDX.COM /D:MYCDROM /C The /C switch keeps the driver where it was loaded, i.e. if into low-memory, it shall not try to move itself to upper-memory, and vice-versa.And again, the name after /D: must match the name given to UIDE or UIDEJR. My drivers default to UDVD1 thus if you give SHSUCDX/SHCDX33E the switch /D:UDVD1 you needn't have a /D: switch on the CONFIG.SYS command-line which loads UIDE/UIDEJR. Anything further, send me a private E-Mail, and I shall be happy to respond! Jack R. Ellis -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Freedos-user mailing list
