[Freedos-user] Status of freedos 1.1?
Is it still stalled for the forseeable future? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1
I would like to see programs written to work with GEM directly. Updating FDPKG to work through GEM would be really neat. GEM is beautifully simple. I don't know about turbovision etcetera, but how hard would it be to build the installer on top of opengem? Talk of needing a dos extender gui to play Windows 9x games is not where the focus needs to be right now IMHO. I think the focus for Freedos 1.1 should be: improve compatability, fix bugs, and strengthen the documentation. Add on software should be saved for say Freedos 2.0 with a notable exception of scandisk. Getting free defrag working on FAT32 would be a welcome improvement. There needs to be a scandisk replacement. The ReactOS project needs these as well btw. Is part of the compatability mess a matter of not wanting to code around the bugs in various popular programs? Apparently, this happened in Windows 9x for games like simcity. IMO, coding around bugs is not a good idea. Better to replace those programs or pressure the producers of them to fix the bugs. The result of not programming around bugs will be a better freedos overall. A major point of freedos is being able to use older computers that nothing else will work on. Dos died before Pentium 4's and modern multi core behemoths came into existence. There are many integrated sound and video cards that there are no optimized dos drivers for. The integrated nic on my Intel D845PEBT2 is not supported by Crynwr. Freedos is supposed to work on everything from an 8086 on up. Packages that need a 386+ to operate should be labelled at the installation step as such. At one point, to bring dos back to life, you probably have to write optimized drivers for complex modern hardware. This is likely to be difficult. How many companies know how to write drivers for dos these days? USBGEAR burned me recently with a USB sound card claiming that it would work in 98se when in fact there are no drivers for it and Microsoft isn't going to provide one. Instead of writing a driver, the company got defensive and said I should complain to Microsoft. It's a USB 1.1 sound card with speaker and mic plug ins. here is a link: http://www.usbgear.com/computer_cable_details.cfm?sku=USBG- X3S&cats=121&catid=121 I don't want to see anyone else get burned. So is freedos 1.1 still stalled? I want to see freedos get a bit farther. Disk checking is needed along with other fat32 compatible tools. I want to see the improved installer Jim envisions and an improved package management capability that lets you select from a menu at any time. Integration of FDPKG with opengem would be really nice. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1
A bug fixed 1.0 with broader network card support via crynwr or a porting of the Linux network drivers would be great. Another thing I'd like is a way to increase the resolution in opengem. Another thing I'd like to see is a decoupling of arachne's pop client as some people, like me, use imap. One of the reasons people like dos is that it follows KISS, keep it simple, better than Windows does. Having everything including the kitchen sink integrated is not good. - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1
> > is that it follows KISS, keep it simple, better than Windows does. > > Having everything including the kitchen sink integrated is not good. > > Why do you ask for "broader network card support" then? ;-) More drivers need to be available. They don't need to be integrated. For example, the D845PEBT2 mobo by Intel has a built in nic that isn't supported by crynwr. I wonder if cards based on the Thunderlan chipset work? It should be possible to look at the Linux drivers and figure out how to work the hardware of a number of unsupported network cards. Stability is more important than hardware support. I want to see a scandisk replacement. I want to see defrag do it's job faster. Tools to check and defragment NTFS volumes would be nice. When I'm speaking of integration, I'm talking very specifically about Microsoft's tendency to make you use one piece of software that you may not need in order to use another. Microsoft got slapped for bundling Internet Explorer in Windows 98 and making it "part of the OS." Arachne assumes that you need a pop3 client, which is often a wrong assumption. Yes, someone needs to bring this up with Arachne's developer. If Microsoft was not an application and OS producing company... things would be different. Microsoft over bundles, but Linux is getting that way too unfortunately. - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] hardware testing...
Are there any freedos compatible programs to test my Intel D845PEBT2 motherboard? I'm having trouble getting Fedora Core 9 to work on it. Dirk Dashing randomly slows way down. I'm also having sound problems. I'm wondering if this is a software issue, but I can't rule out hardware failure. Michael C. Robinson - Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] COCO 3 and freedos...
I have a Tandy Color Computer 3. My 5.25" floppies are mostly dead. What I'm wondering is, beyond software to read COCO disks under dos is there software that will allow me to replace the disk drives via a serial link to my dos machine? There is Drivewire, but I think it is designed for Windows. http://www.cloud9tech.com/ Michael Robinson - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] COCO 3 and freedos..
On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 22:35 -0500, Mike Webb wrote: > > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:05:05 -0700 > > From: robinson-west user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I have a Tandy Color Computer 3. My 5.25" floppies are mostly dead. > > What I'm wondering is, beyond software to read COCO disks under dos is > > there software that will allow me to replace the disk drives via a > > serial link to my dos machine? There is Drivewire, but I think it is > > designed for Windows. > > > > http://www.cloud9tech.com/ > > > > Michael Robinson > > I'm not exactly sure what you're wanting to do, Michael, but if your > drives are dead and the disks are readable, I just checked on eBay and > there are a number of 5-1/4" drives being offered; 360K, 1.2M, and > combo. Hope this helps. My floppies are probably dead. Even a perfect disk drive won't in all likelihood read them. 5 1/4" disk drive technology seems to be dead, where do you get 5 1/4" floppies these days? 3 1/2" floppy drive tech is going out even where the color computer never supported high density disks of any kind. What I want to do is get away from disks completely and use the color computer's serial port to send my COCO programs to my 486 running Freedos 1.0 natively. To do this, I know I need a special RS232 cable that connects to my COCO 3's din serial port and a standard serial port on my 486. I also need a serial program on both machines. I figure I can pick up a tape drive to store and load the serial program that the COCO needs. Nobody supports using a Freedos PC as a virtual hard drive(s) via the serial port for a COCO. There are programs for Windows, but I don't want to bother with Windows on my old 486. I want to be able to save machine language and basic program files that work on my COCO on my 486 and retrieve them from the COCO. I don't know how to write the software for the COCO and the 486 running Freedos to do this, but if I did I'd release it under the GNU general public license. A solution that allows use of the COCO serial port to save and retrieve files on an IBM PC running dos could be enhanced to do this for a Commodore 64 as well. These old computers are great tools for first time programmers to learn on, but saving to tape is the pits and disk drives are going out. Yes you can pick up a hard drive package for the COCO, but these packages are very expensive. Who wants to spend $100+ on a 40 pin IDE or SCSI controller that plugs into their COCO from http://www.cloud9tech.com anyways? A serial cable and open source software is cheap in comparison to a cloud9 hard drive kit. You can pick up 15 gig hard drives for $15 on ebay, I shudder to think what cloud9 will request for a 4 gig drive. What I probably need to do is implement ftp client over serial software on the COCO 3 and an > http://www.cloud9tech.com/ ftp server on the Freedos 486. How do you do serial port programming in Freedos? I want to network the COCO 3 and the Freedos 1.0 486 over a serial link with the 486 being an ftp server and the COCO 3 an ftp client. Any help would be very much appreciated as long as the assistance is compatible with the GNU GPL ;-) Note, done right this software would work on a Pentium 4 with SATA drives and a serial port running Freedos 1.0. The cable with the right pin information is makeable. The software is a bit tougher. -- Michael C. Robinson - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] COCO 3 and freedos..
> Just to name two more popular examples. I guess there are more homebrew > made solutions out there... > > All the best, > > Wolfram So how do I do serial programming under Freedos? Where would I look for information on how to do this? I could start out perhaps by programming two Freedos PCS to talk to each other over a serial port before trying to program my 6809E based COCO to do serial communication. There is a solution from http://cloud9tech.com/ to communicate with a Windows based PC from a Color Computer over the serial port. It stands to reason that this should also be doable with a Freedos system as the server. The Coco 3 can run something called HDB-DOS, if that helps me. Yes the 6809 is old, but it is a very simple and for it's day powerful computer. This would be a great piece of software for COCO fans. So I need the information to do serial programming on both the Freedos 1 side and the 6809 side, where do I look? Even if there are tools for the Commodore 64, how about the Apple IIe? -- Michael C. Robinson - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1 status
What is the latest on Freedos 1.1? A new installer, updated packages, and the addition of fdupdate. Is significant work being done? I notice that there is a call to action on the freedos web site, so status wise what is happening? Michael C. Robinson - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Games report...
Populous II won't install under Freedos, but it will run. Wolfenstein 3D will install, but it's not playable. Same for blake stone aliens of gold. Underworld works and installs, except I can't get speech to work. Chuck Yeager's air combat doesn't work. Ultima VII doesn't work, don't know why, but there's a patch to play it in Windows (If you have a legal copy of that lying around). Battletech I and Battletech II install and work, they are so old does anyone care about the copyright? Shareware In search of Dr. Riptide, Shareware Pea Shooting Pete, and of course the shareware versions of Commander Keen I and IV work and install. 7cities, seven cities of gold, works and installs. The original simcity works and installs. My 486 DX2-66 has a copy of 98SE on it now, albeit that is very slow. ReactOS is an NT/2000/XP replacement, so it probably won't be appropriate for my 486. I only have 20 megs of ram because my second set of 4 megs simms burned out. I will use 98SE for DriveWire short of a better solution. I hope Microsoft doesn't care who runs 98SE, there isn't a better solution at this point. I have more installations of 98SE than I do legal copies, but I don't use all of those copies simultaneously. I wish the ReactOS project hadn't gotten away from offering a Windows 9x replacement. I know there's a hatred of dos, but it's the only way to go on an ancient computer. Frankly, I'd like to see Microsoft forced to open source it's abandoned operating systems. If Microsoft can do something totally different like Vista, there's no excuse for keeping something ancient like MS-DOS 7.0 closed. Michael Robinson - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] COCO 3 emulator not working...
http://www.vavasour.ca/jeff/trs80.html I get an error from freedos's emm386.exe. Has anyone gotten this emulator to work under Freedos? I have trouble getting it to work in MS-DOS 6.22 also, when I try to run it, the computer reboots. I think it was designed for MS-DOS 3.3. The emulator is freeware and I believe the source is available. This would be a nice addition to freedos if that's possible and someone can get it to work. Michael - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] COCO 3 emulator not working...
On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 12:50 -0500, Jim Hall wrote: > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 9:05 PM, robinson-west user > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.vavasour.ca/jeff/trs80.html > > > > I get an error from freedos's emm386.exe. Has anyone gotten this > > emulator to work under Freedos? I have trouble getting it to work > > in MS-DOS 6.22 also, when I try to run it, the computer reboots. > > I think it was designed for MS-DOS 3.3. The emulator is freeware > > and I believe the source is available. This would be a nice addition > > to freedos if that's possible and someone can get it to work. > > > > Hi. Have you tried this with Jemm instead? I know some users have > reported that things work with Jemm where they wouldn't with Emm386. > Might be worth a try. > > http://www.freedos.org/cgi-bin/lsm.cgi?mode=lsm&lsm=base/jemm386.lsm I have tried jemm, nothing happens without an expanded memory manager. The program just hangs without coming up without expanded memory. Jemm throws an exception 6. MS-DOS 6.20 emm386 triggers a reboot. Freedos emm386.exe crashes with illegal instruction occured. The vgacheck.exe and dskini.exe programs work just fine, it's coco3x.exe that doesn't. I would really like to hear from someone who tries this software based color computer emulator, I don't see anything stopping that. Considering that Jeff Vavasour appears to be interested in having his emulator available as freeware, it could probably be distributed with freedos once someone determines how to get it working. Michael Robinson - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] coco3x.exe
Has anyone gotten Jeff Vavasour's coco 3 emulator to work at all in freedos? I believe that the source code is freely available. http://www.vavasour.ca/jeff/trs80.html "Optimal system requirements for the CoCo 3 Emulator are VGA compatibility, 429K of low DOS memory free and 384K of free EMS. (Use the MS-DOS "MEM" command to check your available memory.) A SoundBlaster on port 220H is also needed for SoundBlaster-based sound. With an additional 1.5MB of EMS memory, you can run the emulator as a 2MB CoCo 3. (To use the 2MB mode requires OS-9 and special 3rd party drivers that were sold separately from OS-9. If you are not familiar with the 2MB OS-9 setup, do not enable the 2MB mode in the emulator. OS-9 will not work on a 2MB CoCo without the appropriate drivers.) If EMS is unavailable, the emulator will work as a 128K CoCo 3."(Jeff Vavasour) Michael Robinson - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Windows 98 and Freedos 1.0
I'm surprised that noone has talked about XOSL. I used it to hide the primary partition of freedos so I could install Windows 98 SE. It has been so long, I can't remember if I used a 98 boot floppy to get around the you only have 16 megs of memory issue or not. I know that I created a dedicated partition to put the 98 cab files on because I couldn't boot from CD and I used freedos to do this. I had to use XFDISK to switch back to freedos after the install of 98se from a freedos boot disk. I might have used MSDOS to fire off the 98se install. The nice thing about 98se is that it is FAT based and you can hide partitions from it. In 2000/XP and later you can't hide partitions, 2000/XP sees them anyways. Microsoft's attitude with it's NT line of OSes seems to be that you won't use multiple versions of Windows and/or dos. Never mind that every new release of NT leaves behind a LOT of software that works in dos and older versions of Windows. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Status of freedos 1.1
What is the outlook for freedos 1.1? I'd like to see improved stability overall, better networking options, and integration of the package manager into a gui. Gem is great because it is light and that's what freedos should be, light on resource use. I think there should be some discussion on whether or not it would be appropriate to enhance freedos so it can serve effectively as a low cost simple OS for file server applications. Netware used to be the thing for networking dos networks, but it is proprietary and expensive. In Linux land there is something called the Mars netware emulator if memory serves me right, maybe emulated Netware is something freedos can support. - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] netware 4.11 freedos...
I am having trouble setting up the nic on my Intel D845PEBT2 motherboard to access a Netware 4.11 server. I'm trying to install the 16 bit dos client under Freedos 1.0. I am using a student kit. I get an error when I boot that the LOAD command can't be found and I find I am without the upper level network drivers. Anyone know how to get this to work? Michael Robinson -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Freedos and netware...
All I have drivers for is netware. I have an Intel D845PEBT2 mobo with built-in 10/100/1000 Intel nic. I've tried to run Netware 4.11 student edition install with no luck. I have odipkt installed, but I don't seem to have any utilties to check the configuration of the network card. -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Using curl with fdupdate.
How do I use curl with freedos update? The first trick was finding curl. Copying curl over wget prevents fdupdate from crashing, but it doesn't make the updater work. On the todo list there is make fdupdate able to use curl, is there a post 0.52 update? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] fdupdate
ulimit(fdupdate.tab) EIO error input/output error... My freedos update locks up and I've noticed something similar to the above error. Is there supposed to be a ulimit executable? Is there supposed to be an installation of djgpp for wget to work? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Arachne bugs...
It doesn't save downloads to the download directory, it saves them to the cache directory under a cryptic name. It tries to seek the A drive every time I exit it. Michael C. Robinson - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] fdupdate
I'm on a 486 DX2 66 EISA bus, no VLB. 20 megs of SIMM ram, 30 pin. Is there a copy of memtest86+ for freedos, it would be silly if this turned out to be a bad memory problem. autoexec.bat: --- @echo off if not "%config%" == "4" SET CTCM=C:\CTCM if not "%config%" == "4" C:\CTCM\CTCU /S SET dosdir=C:\FDOS REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BANNER2 REM C:\FDOS\BIN\BLACKOUT set PATH=%dosdir%\bin;c:\commwp\wp60 set NLSPATH=%dosdir%\NLS set HELPPATH=%dosdir%\HELP set temp=%dosdir%\temp set tmp=%dosdir%\temp SET BLASTER=A220 I2 D1 H5 P330 REM if not "%config%"=="4" c:\fdos\bin\shsucdx.com /D:fdcd0001 REM if not "%config%"=="4" LH VIAUDIO REM if not "%config%"=="4" LH VIAFMTSR REM if not "%config%"=="4" LH FDAPM APMDOS if "%config%"=="2" LH SHARE SET autofile=C:\autoexec.bat alias reboot=fdapm warmboot alias halt=fdapm poweroff SET CFGFILE=C:\fdconfig.sys echo type HELP to get support on commands and navigation echo. echo Welcome to FreeDOS echo. if not "%config%"=="4" mouse if not "%config%"=="4" C:\FDOS\drivers\net\crynwr\ne2000 0x60 12 0x280 SET WATTCP.CFG=%DOSDIR%\BIN lh doslfn set PATH=%PATH%;%DOSDIR%\emacs set PATH=%PATH%;%DOSDIR%\SETEDIT SET VIM=C:\FDOS\VIM SET PATH=%PATH%;%DOSDIR%\vim\vim70 SET PATH=%PATH%;%DOSDIR%\fbc call %DOSDIR%\watcom\setvars.bat SET PATH=%PATH%;%DOSDIR%\PACIFIC\BIN REM if not "%config%"=="4" @SET SCSI_DRIVER = C:\IOMEGA REM if not "%config%"=="4" @SET SCSI_UTILITY = C:\IOMEGA SET PATH=%PATH%;d:\iomega REM BLACKOUT REM MODE CO80 - fdconfig.sys: - !COUNTRY=001,437,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS !SET lang=EN !LASTDRIVE=F !BUFFERS=40 !FILES=100 !DOS=HIGH,UMB !DOSDATA=UMB !set dircmd=/ogn /4 !MENUCOLOR=7,5 MENUDEFAULT=2,5 MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with JEMM386+EMS and SHARE MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS including HIMEM XMS-memory driver MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS without drivers DOS=HIGH,UMB REM 123?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\XCDROM.SYS /D:fdcd0001 123?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\HIMEMX.EXE 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=TEST 2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\JEMM386.EXE 123?DEVICE=C:\CTCM\CTCM.EXE REM 123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\xdma.sys REM 123?INSTALL=C:\FDOS\BIN\BLACKOUT.EXE REM 123?INSTALL=C:\FDOS\BIN\BANNER1.COM 123?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\MORESYS.SYS SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\bin\command.com C:\FDOS\bin /E:1024 /P=C:\autoexec.bat 4? - The exact error message for utime is: utime(fdupdate.tab): Input or output error (EIO) At this point a window pops up asking me to update debug. If I press y, the computer crashes. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] fdupdate
I could get it to work under vmware with wget believe it or not, but I haven't gotten it to work on real hardware even with curl. Another problem I've noticed is that fdupdate doesn't seem to record the new version of a package that it has updated. My 486 is passing memtest with flying colors. It crashes every time I try to apply or skip an update. What is the fallback address? It doesn't seem to be right. Michael Robinson - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] fdupdate
On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 21:00 +0100, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On Friday 15 February 2008, robinson-west user wrote: > > I could get it to work under vmware with wget believe it or not, > > but I haven't gotten it to work on real hardware even with curl. > > Do your "real hardware" can run anything more than the bare FreeDOS kernel? I > mean games, and more "advanced" software (DPMI / protected mode, etc...). > Maybe the problem is outside FDUPDATE / wget / curl... Bad memory, incorrect > EMM386 settings, etc... > Do you tried using the "tested" wget binary? > (http://mateusz.viste.free.fr/fdupdate/wgetx.zip) Why wouldn't the copy of wget packaged with freedos 1.0 work? It does on the emulated installation of freedos that I got fdupdate to work with. Yes my real hardware can run more than the bare freedos kernel. I've played ultima underworld and shadowcaster no problem on this machine. I'm not using EMM386, I'm using Jemm5.70 on the 486. The fact that fdupdate doesn't want to work on my 486, but other programs which use extended memory do, is quite odd. > No, FDUDPATE doesn't keep track of installed / updated software. That's the > job for the application's LSM file. If the application have a LSM with an > incorrect "version" record, FDUPDATE will be fooled. > What problem do you exactly encounter with versionning? Well, on the emulated system where fdupdate works it didn't realize what it had updated the second time I ran it. > What do you mean by "with flying colors"? If you have a bad mem, wget, curl, > fdupdate, and any other DPMI application may have big problems, as it is > using memory > 1 MB... Unless the memory bank itself is damaged somehow, this doesn't appear to be a memory problem. Memtest has been run multiple times and every time the memory has come up good. I wonder what the difference is between a vmware environment and real hardware? If I could figure that out, I might determine why my 486 crashes. Michael C. Robinson - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1
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[Freedos-user] Freedos 1.1
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