Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
Well after all it's not going to happen very soon, but as soon as 4NT is far enough ahead of 4DOS and 4NT specific code is removed there may be a possibility. http://email.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?visit=jpsoft_support click read messages, then scroll down to Matthias Paul and Rex Conn's answer. Here's what Rex Conn says at the end: Once the new versions are released, I'm willing to discuss somebody taking over maintaining possibly upgrading 4DOS. (There'd have to be a non-disclosure agreement for the source, the executables would remain freeware.) NDA and Open Source are mutually exclusive... :-( What license has 4OS2 source been released under? Lucho --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
It is freeware now! http://www.jpsoft.com Bye, Flo w0t! The moment we've been waiting for! ROFL WOW! UNBELIEVABLE INDEED! THANKS JPSOFT! THANKS FLORIAN! The next logical step will be releasing the source code :) Needless to say 4DOS is compatible with the FreeDOS kernel. I've used it for a long time under it and it's very stable. I attach the license under which 4DOS is now distributed. Does it allow its inclusion in the FreeDOS distributions? I think - yes. But you know I'm a copyright illiterate :) Regards, LuchoCopyright (c) 1989-2004 JP Software, Inc. - 4DOS (including software, documents, or other related items) is being provided by JP Software under the following license. By obtaining, using and/or copying this work, you (the licensee) agree that you have read, understood, and will comply with the following terms and conditions: Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation, with or without modification, for any purpose and without fee or royalty is hereby granted, provided that you include the following on ALL copies of the software and documentation or portions thereof, including modifications, that you make: 1. The full text of this notice in a location viewable to users of the redistributed or derivative work. 2. Notice of any changes or modifications to the files, including the date changes were made. 3. You may charge a distribution fee for the physical act of transferring a copy, and you may at your option offer warranty protection in exchange for a fee. 4. You may not copy, sublicense, distribute or transfer 4DOS except as expressly provided under this License Agreement, without prior written permission from JP Sofrware. Any attempt otherwise to copy, sublicense, distribute or transfer 4DOS is void and your rights to use the program under this License agreement shall be automatically terminated. THIS SOFTWARE AND DOCUMENTATION IS PROVIDED AS IS, AND JP SOFTWARE MAKES NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR ANY PARTICULAR PURPOSE OR THAT THE USE OF THE SOFTWARE OR DOCUMENTATION WILL NOT INFRINGE ANY THIRD PARTY PATENTS, COPYRIGHTS, TRADEMARKS OR OTHER RIGHTS. JP SOFTWARE WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, SPECIAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY USE OF THE SOFTWARE OR DOCUMENTATION. The name of JP Software may NOT be used in advertising or publicity pertaining to the software without specific, written prior permission. Title to copyright in this software and any associated documentation will at all times remain with JP Software.
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
Hi, Luchezar Georgiev escribi: The next logical step will be releasing the source code :) Needless to say 4DOS is compatible with the FreeDOS kernel. I've used it for a long time under it and it's very stable. I attach the license under which 4DOS is now distributed. Does it allow its inclusion in the FreeDOS distributions? I think - yes. But you know I'm a copyright illiterate :) From what you say, it comes as freeware without source. Therefore, even if it might eventually come (I don't think so either) as a Third Party utility, having no sources it cannot replace FreeCOM (which by the way is also a quite good tool) (although I might be wrong, Jeremy, Jim or Bernd can tell me wrong). Regards, Aitor --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
My experience is that 4DOS works with FreeDOS kernal except for the command line history. Sometimes, quite often, the command on the line when using the history is not the one that gets excuted, rather the one prior to it. I've only had this happen with the FreeDOS kernel. And it can can make a real mess of things when the wrong command gets excecuted. I'm curious if anyone has had the same experience?? --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
From what you say, it comes as freeware without source. Therefore, even if it might eventually come (I don't think so either) as a Third Party utility, having no sources it cannot replace FreeCOM (which by the way is also a quite good tool) (although I might be wrong, Jeremy, Jim or Bernd can tell me wrong). Regards, Aitor FreeCOM is still preferred, due to size and license. Just as I prefer the FreeDOS kernel over the Win9x kernel (io.sys). Silly Microsoft for including a bitmap into a 220KB kernel which was also intended to be put on bootdisks with only 1.44MB capacity. With WinME they corrected this, but the WinME's IO.SYS file does not allow many operations (SYS C: for example). WinME 's IO.SYS is 44KB, if I remember correctly. Anyway, 4DOS is *VERY* powerfull, but the shell is about 200KB. Very interesting as a 3rd-party freeware application. No way they would release it as open source, as JPsoft has other products based on the 4DOS code. when no XMS memory is available (a clean boot process), both 4DOS and FreeCOM use enormous amounts of memory. This can be demonstrated by using FreeDOS HIMEM.EXE options as implemented by Michael Devore to limit the available XMS-memory to just the amount needed for DOS=HIGH (put kernel parts in High Memory Area). Bernd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
My experience is that 4DOS works with FreeDOS kernal except for the command line history. Sometimes, quite often, the command on the line when using the history is not the one that gets excuted, rather the one prior to it. I've only had this happen with the FreeDOS kernel. And it can can make a real mess of things when the wrong command gets excecuted. I'm curious if anyone has had the same experience?? Never seen this, and I've worked with it under FreeDOS for about an year. Which kernel and 4DOS builds do you mean? Do you have UMBHistory=YES? I do. Do you log the history into a file? I don't. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Luchezar Georgiev wrote: The next logical step will be releasing the source code :) This is not as improbable as it may seem (unlike what Bernd says). It happened with 4OS2, well Matthias Paul already tried as you can see from the forum at JPSoft. I attach the license under which 4DOS is now distributed. Does it allow its inclusion in the FreeDOS distributions? Yes, it's a very liberal license. Also FreeDOS does have precedent in distributing binary only software, see arrow-asm in lang, but not in base. Even then FreeCOM has some advantages, being a lot smaller, while still having nice features such as command line editing and tab completion. The license is very similar to www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/copyright-software The two sections that are added can be found (in slightly edited form) in the GPL. If this were a source license it would be a BSD-ish subset (possibly even GPL-compatible but IANAL so can't be sure). Bart --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
Luchezar Georgiev wrote: It is freeware now! http://www.jpsoft.com Bye, Flo w0t! The moment we've been waiting for! ROFL WOW! UNBELIEVABLE INDEED! THANKS JPSOFT! THANKS FLORIAN! The next logical step will be releasing the source code :) Needless to say 4DOS is compatible with the FreeDOS kernel. I've used it for a long time under it and it's very stable. I attach the license under which 4DOS is now distributed. Does it allow its inclusion in the FreeDOS distributions? I think - yes. But you know I'm a copyright illiterate :) Yes, the license does permit redistribution of 4DOS in the FreeDOS distribution, as mentioned in the license: Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its documentation, with or without modification, for any purpose and without fee or royalty is hereby granted, provided that you include the following on ALL copies of the software and documentation or portions thereof, including modifications, that you make: ..and the 4 terms are: 1. license is included 2. notify of any changes you made (if any) 3. fee may be charged to make a copy / to distribute 4. 4DOS license may not be changed, or sublicensed. Since no source code is available, this is not something that should appear in the FreeDOS Base list, but it can be included in the Util list. And I think it should! I'll create an LSM for this on FreeDOS.org. -jh -- _ This email message has been automatically encrypted using ROT-26. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
... Since no source code is available, this is not something that should appear in the FreeDOS Base list, but it can be included in the Util list. And I think it should! I'll create an LSM for this on FreeDOS.org. http://www.freedos.org/freedos/software/lsm.cgi?q=fa=util/4dos.lsm I've also mirrored a copy of the 'files' subdirectory as 4dos750.zip at: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/4dos/ -- _ This email message has been automatically encrypted using ROT-26. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
Bart Oldeman wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Luchezar Georgiev wrote: The next logical step will be releasing the source code :) This is not as improbable as it may seem (unlike what Bernd says). It happened with 4OS2, well Matthias Paul already tried as you can see from the forum at JPSoft. Yes, this is quite possible. I've emailed JP Software in the past to (politely) ask that they release the source code to 4DOS, and I intend to do so again. I would encourage others to do so, as well. However, please remember to follow the rules of good FreeDOS advocacy: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=23406group_id=18412 Above all: be polite. Thanks. -jh -- _ This email message has been automatically encrypted using ROT-26. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 07:10, Luchezar Georgiev wrote: No way they would release it as open source, as JPsoft has other products based on the 4DOS code. Everything will eventually be open-source, the question if whether we'll live to see it or not ;-) The source for a great many things has been lost for programs that are no-longer commercially viable. Maybe in the future this will not be the case, but I see lot of worry over trade secrets being given away. It will take a great change in buisness since I see companies that are I.P. (patents, copyrights) only pushing for greater protection. I only have seen a few progressive companies release code (like ID software and a few others) for their non-commercially viable products. Regards, Paul --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
I think this would allow redistribution of 4DOS, IMHO. But personally, I would ask permission as a courtesy to JPSoft for thier contribution to free software, and maybe even plug thier win32 software briefly in the redistribution package. On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:23:11 +0300, Luchezar Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is freeware now! http://www.jpsoft.com Bye, Flo w0t! The moment we've been waiting for! ROFL WOW! UNBELIEVABLE INDEED! THANKS JPSOFT! THANKS FLORIAN! The next logical step will be releasing the source code :) Needless to say 4DOS is compatible with the FreeDOS kernel. I've used it for a long time under it and it's very stable. I attach the license under which 4DOS is now distributed. Does it allow its inclusion in the FreeDOS distributions? I think - yes. But you know I'm a copyright illiterate :) Regards, Lucho --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Jim Hall wrote: Yes, this is quite possible. I've emailed JP Software in the past to (politely) ask that they release the source code to 4DOS, and I intend to do so again. I would encourage others to do so, as well. However, please remember to follow the rules of good FreeDOS advocacy: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=23406group_id=18412 Above all: be polite. Probably best to be quiet (also polite) now. It's extremely likely to happen according to Mike Bessy and he was affiliated with JP Software up to a couple weeks ago. Any more requests or questions just take time away from the person at the other end at this point. See http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=_zeXc.540%24lV5.320%40fe25.usenetserver.com Bart --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
Bart Oldeman wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Jim Hall wrote: Yes, this is quite possible. I've emailed JP Software in the past to (politely) ask that they release the source code to 4DOS, and I intend to do so again. I would encourage others to do so, as well. However, please remember to follow the rules of good FreeDOS advocacy: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=23406group_id=18412 Above all: be polite. Probably best to be quiet (also polite) now. It's extremely likely to happen according to Mike Bessy and he was affiliated with JP Software up to a couple weeks ago. Any more requests or questions just take time away from the person at the other end at this point. See http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=_zeXc.540%24lV5.320%40fe25.usenetserver.com Bart Interesting. I hadn't seen that one, since I don't read that ng. I'll sit tight for now, and watch what happens. Thanks for the link. -jh -- _ This email message has been automatically encrypted using ROT-26. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
it talks about LFN support, but AFAIK this is implemented in VFAT, not in MS-DOS kernel. At least my Win98 DOS (MS-DOS 7.10) can't see LFNs, so unless the author has taken the shots on a Win9X DOS box, do you know how is that he mentions and has screenshots of DOS with LFNs? If you download his super boot disk (http://newdos.yginfo.net/dosware/mdos71bd.zip) you'll see that he uses DOSLFN (what else? ;-) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
Aitor Santamara Merino schreef: Hmmm, interesting page. I am watching: http://newdos.yginfo.net/msdos71/whatsnew.htm I see a couple of inaccuracies, such as Euro Sign support can't be in 850, but 858 (andAltGr+5 in some keyboards, AltGr+E in mine). However, it talks about LFN support, but AFAIK this is implemented in VFAT, not in MS-DOS kernel. At least my Win98 DOS (MS-DOS 7.10) can't see LFNs, so unless the author has taken the shots on a Win9X DOS box, do you know how is that he mentions and has screenshots of DOS with LFNs? Aitor, have a look at the batchfile at http://www.pcwelt.de/index.cfm?pid=239pk=6626p=2 it contains some batch code for creating a 32bit DOS out of a fresh installed Win98. The so-created 32bit DOS supports LFN's. No real usefullness, though. google search term: 32bd.bat Bernd if exist c:\32BD\nul deltree c:\32BD c: md c:\32BD cd c:\32BD copy %winbootdir%\win.com copy %winbootdir%\system.ini md c:\32BD\system cd c:\32BD\system copy %winbootdir%\system\vmm32.vxd copy %comspec% krnl386.exe xcopy %winbootdir%\system\vmm32\*.* vmm32\ xcopy %winbootdir%\system\iosubsys\*.* iosubsys\ cd c:\32BD --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
Hi Jim, and thanks for archiving 4DOS and for your news item on it! http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/4dos/ You can remove the file CSCLEAN.BAT from the ZIP. It just restores the old CONFIG.SYS saved by the installer on uninstall and is not needed since the ZIP contains neither installer nor uninstaller. Below is the contents of the CSCLEAN.BAT file, for your reference. Regards, Lucho @echo off rem rem 4DOS uninstall -- CONFIG.SYS cleanup rem Copyright (c) 2003, JP Software Inc., All Rights Reserved. rem rem DO NOT delete this file! It may be required when uninstalling 4DOS. rem rem DO NOT run this file manually. It is for use by the automated rem uninstall software. rem cls echo. echo This window is running a small batch file to restore your echo CONFIG.SYS file to its state before 4DOS was installed. echo. echo To perform this restore, press the space bar or Enter key at the echo prompt below. To skip this step and clean up CONFIG.SYS manually, echo press Ctrl-C or Ctrl-Break at the prompt. echo. echo Depending on your Windows settings, this window may not close echo automatically after CONFIG.SYS is restored. If it does not, simply echo click the close button in the upper right corner. echo. echo Thanks! echo. pause if not exist %1\config.jps goto nobackup copy %1\CONFIG.JPS C:\CONFIG.SYS echo. echo CONFIG.SYS restored from pre-install backup. goto done :nobackup echo. echo. echo The backup file for CONFIG.SYS is missing. You will need echo to edit CONFIG.SYS manually to remove the SHELL= line for echo 4DOS. echo. pause :done exit --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
I'd rather not modify the 4dos750.zip archive to eliminate the CSCLEAN.BAT file from the distribution. If I did that, I feel I'd have to document this in a separate README file, and I'd rather not do that right now. I've done the next best thing: I've created a short 4dos750.txt file in the '4dos' directory on ibiblio, and it warns users not to run the CSCLEAN.BAT batch file. -jh Luchezar Georgiev wrote: Hi Jim, and thanks for archiving 4DOS and for your news item on it! http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/4dos/ You can remove the file CSCLEAN.BAT from the ZIP. It just restores the old CONFIG.SYS saved by the installer on uninstall and is not needed since the ZIP contains neither installer nor uninstaller. Below is the contents of the CSCLEAN.BAT file, for your reference. Regards, Lucho @echo off rem rem 4DOS uninstall -- CONFIG.SYS cleanup rem Copyright (c) 2003, JP Software Inc., All Rights Reserved. rem rem DO NOT delete this file! It may be required when uninstalling 4DOS. rem rem DO NOT run this file manually. It is for use by the automated rem uninstall software. rem cls echo. echo This window is running a small batch file to restore your echo CONFIG.SYS file to its state before 4DOS was installed. echo. echo To perform this restore, press the space bar or Enter key at the echo prompt below. To skip this step and clean up CONFIG.SYS manually, echo press Ctrl-C or Ctrl-Break at the prompt. echo. echo Depending on your Windows settings, this window may not close echo automatically after CONFIG.SYS is restored. If it does not, simply echo click the close button in the upper right corner. echo. echo Thanks! echo. pause if not exist %1\config.jps goto nobackup copy %1\CONFIG.JPS C:\CONFIG.SYS echo. echo CONFIG.SYS restored from pre-install backup. goto done :nobackup echo. echo. echo The backup file for CONFIG.SYS is missing. You will need echo to edit CONFIG.SYS manually to remove the SHELL= line for echo 4DOS. echo. pause :done exit -- _ This email message has been automatically encrypted using ROT-26. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
Hallo Bart, The license is very similar to www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/copyright-software Indeed! 80% the same thing! No one can really invent a license anymore. The two sections that are added can be found (in slightly edited form) in the GPL. If this were a source license it would be a BSD-ish subset (possibly even GPL-compatible but IANAL so can't be sure). It'd be like the original BSD license which is GPL-incompatibe because of the advertising clause. But it's interesting to see under which license will be released what we hope to see released ;-) Groet, Lucho --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
Hi Jim, I'd rather not modify the 4dos750.zip archive to eliminate the CSCLEAN.BAT file from the distribution. If I did that, I feel I'd have to document this in a separate README file, and I'd rather not do that right now. You're right - I didn't notice that this file was included by JPSoft themselves. I've done the next best thing: I've created a short 4dos750.txt file in the '4dos' directory on ibiblio, and it warns users not to run the CSCLEAN.BAT batch file. Great. Although, as long as the user doesn't have a CONFIG.JPS file, CSCLEAN.BAT won't do any harm. Regards, Lucho --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
Luchezar Georgiev schreef: What does this file create? A mini-Windows? Unfortunately, whatever it creates, doesn't run even under MS-DOS 7.10. It says While initializing device VFBACKUP: VFBACKUP could not load VFD.VXD. Please run setup again. Groet, Lucho Hi Lucho, you're multilangual by now, even learning Dutch (groet)? it creates a MSDOS with long filename support. I think msdos.sys requires bootgui=0 then C: CD \ CD 32BD WIN and you boot into the protected-mode/32bit DOS. it was a PCWELT (German magazine) article back in 1999. I tested it once, but it had no practical use. Best use is from a clean win98 installation. You might need to copy additional VXD files to the 32BD directory (or a subdirectory) to satisfy the registry requirements (netware drivers, for example). Bernd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
Hallo Bernd, Hi Lucho, you're multilangual by now, even learning Dutch (groet)? Just a little courtesy to the many Dutches here ;-) I don't actually know more than hallo, groet and dank je (but I'm always willing to learn more ;-) CD 32BD WIN and you boot into the protected-mode/32bit DOS. it was a PCWELT (German magazine) article back in 1999. I tested it once, but it had no practical use. Can be used to backup long named files under DOS with 4DOS, as the last part of the following PC-Welt article suggests: http://www.pcwelt.de/know-how/tipps_tricks/betriebssysteme/windows/4064/ Best use is from a clean win98 installation. You might need to copy additional VXD files to the 32BD directory (or a subdirectory) to satisfy the registry requirements (netware drivers, for example). So this in fact is a mini-Windows... without windows ;-) What a pity that DOSLFN 0.33 isn't 100% compatible with FreeDOS :( This morning I thrashed a FAT16 filesystem trying to copy long named files under it but there wasn't enough space for all of them. After I re-formatted it, I did the same under MS-DOS. No problems! It gracefully stopped after the disk was full. OK, our kernel is surely still buggy. But Bart is also right that the DOSLFN author Jason Hood is not interested in FreeDOS. Why we're still ignored sometimes? Aren't we a force yet? Dank, Lucho --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
Hi, Luchezar Georgiev escribi: Best use is from a clean win98 installation. You might need to copy additional VXD files to the 32BD directory (or a subdirectory) to satisfy the registry requirements (netware drivers, for example). So this in fact is a mini-Windows... without windows ;-) Well, a question of point of view. For me, this all is DOS, the DOS extender of Microsoft, and Windows is what comes behind KRNL386.EXE. After all, the same Windows application (KERNEL, USER, GDI) could be written over DOS (32-bit DOS, true), or over the WinNT kernel. Aitor --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] 4DOS free now!
Hi! It is freeware now! http://www.jpsoft.com Bye, Flo -- Florian Xaver http://www.drdos.orghttp://www.flox.at.tfhttp://www.blutrausch.at.tf Passt's auf eich auf, sad's vuasichtig und losst's eich nix gfoin! --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
