[Freesurfer] calculating percent signal change

2010-09-30 Thread Thomas Janssens
Hello,

I am trying to calculate the percent signal changes for my monkey data.
I did this by running the command selxavg3-sess and looking at the cespct 
values (or equivalently by using h.nii divided by h-offset.nii).
I found in the mailing list that this value should be corrected by a scaling 
factor scalef if freesurfer-4.5.0 is used (see below).

If I apply this correction factor I got values that at first sight look 
reasonable but if i calcultate the psc using JIP  (the imaging program from Joe 
Mandeville), i find different values.
And looking at the raw data I have to conclude that the value from JIP are the 
correct ones...

For example if i look at the same voxel in MT if find:
with JIP: -14.45%
with FS:   -8.15 %
notice that the values are negative and pretty large due to the fact that we 
use and iron oxide contrast agent.

If, instead of applying the scaling factor scalef (defined below), I apply the 
factor max(x.X(:,1)) as a scaling factor (which according to me is the maximum 
value of the convolved design matrix,or 'the  EV' in FSL lingo),
then I end up with a value of -15.09%. Which is pretty close to the value 
obtained with JIP.
I got the last idea from mumford.fmripower.org/perchange_guide.pdf

Do you have any clue where the differences come from? or if I am doing 
something wrong?

Also, one of my colleagues used both the gamma model and FIR model to calculate 
the percent signal change (psc) for his event-related designed experiment, and 
the values are also quite different.
He applied the scaling factor for the values from the gamma model, and didn't 
do it for the fir model. What he got is 0.6% signal change if he takes the peak 
of the time course (which looks quite ok) that fitted from the FIR model
and 1.5% signal change from the gamma model. It seems that there is more than 2 
times differences between these two values. Is it normal, or we need another 
scale factor for the fir model?


Thanks for the answers!

regards,
Thomas Janssens



ps:
My selxavg3-sess analysis was done using the following parameters in the 
analysis.cfg file:

-gammafit 0 8
-gammaexp 0.3
-timewindow 40.
-prestim 0
-acfbins 10
-fix-acf
-autostimdur
-no-fsv3-st2fir
-no-fsv3-whiten
-polyfit 2
-TER .1000
-autowhiten 30
-nskip 0
-fwhm 0
-rescale 1000



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[Freesurfer] Calculating % Signal Change from roisummary-sess readout

Douglas N Greve
Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:25:52 -0700


That's right, though you may/will run into the problem of very small
values in which case you can use this fix:

cd bold/analysis
x = load('X');
tirf = x.flac0.ev(3).tirf;
Xirf = x.flac0.ev(3).Xirf;
scalef = sum(Xirf .* repmat(tirf,[1 size(Xirf,2)]));

scalef will be something like 184. Multiply the percent signal change
you get by this number. BTW, this problem is fixed in version 5.

doug


Adam Nitenson wrote:
 Hi Freesurfers,

  I am trying to analyze functional activity in individual subjects.
 The structural constraint is a dACC label and the functional
 constraint is positive activation at a specific timepoint (6 sec
 after stimulus). I was just wondering what the numbers following the
 # of estimates per condition row actually represented, and how I
 could convert these to % signal change. I saw in an archived email
 http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg00171.html
 that someone mentioned taking those values, dividing by the baseline
 offset value (row 4) and multiplying by 100 to get % signal change.
 Is this a valid method?


 Adam Nitenson, B.S.
 Brain Genomics Lab
 Massachusetts General Hospital
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Laboratorium voor Neuro- en Psychofysiologie
K.U.Leuven Medical School
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Re: [Freesurfer] Surface Area and Cortical Volume

2010-09-30 Thread Nick Schmansky
perhaps an alternative is to use the surface area measure of an ROI,
namely the aparc regions, to conduct a group analysis, as the vertex
distribution problem is averaged-out over the region.

n.

On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 21:02 -0700, Don Hagler wrote:
 The area maps do contain the actual surface area of each vertex with
 units of mm^2.  The problem is that the area at a given vertex depends
 on how many vertices a given patch of cortex was divided into, which
 is initially uniform but then varies arbitrarily due to topology
 correction, rendering it useless for making statistical maps.
 
 If you are interested in making statistical maps of between-group
 differences in surface area, the best way to do that is by calculating
 the areal expansion measure.  This is not a normally used feature of
 freesurfer, but is possible by using make_average_subject separately
 for each subject.
 
 If you use the area values in the aparc stats files, those are the sum
 of area for all vertices in each parcellation, and they have units of
 surface area (unlike measures of areal expansion).
 
 
  From: jsadino.que...@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:57:38 -1000
  To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  Subject: [Freesurfer] Surface Area and Cortical Volume
  
  Hello,
  
  As I understand it, the surface area measure is not a real surface
  area measure. It is more a measure of how much the brain has to be
  stretched in order to get into a common space. My question is that
 if
  the cortical volume is calculated by multiplying the thickness and
 the
  surface area (right?), then is it a real volume that can be compared
  between subjects?
  
  Also, is it is more accurate to use the cortical volume measures
 from
  the aparc files rather than the aseg files, since the aseg files
  overestimate the white matter due to the manual tracing it is based
  on?
  
  Thank you,
  Jeff
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Re: [Freesurfer] Surface Area and Cortical Volume

2010-09-30 Thread Michael Harms

Jeff,
Posting this back to the list so that others can see your reply.

cheers,
-MH

 Forwarded Message 
From: Jeff Sadino jsadino.que...@gmail.com
To: Michael Harms mha...@conte.wustl.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Surface Area and Cortical Volume
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:29:45 -1000

Hi Michael,

After reading your answer, I can see it as valid for each individual subject.

If I wanted to picture the average surface area for my controls, I
think the approach would break down.  I would have to transform all
the surface areas onto a common space subject (fsaverage), and then
all of the controls would have the exact same surface area, and so
would the study group for that matter.

My understanding was that the surface area is a measure of how much
each triangle needs to be squished or stretched in order for it to
match the triangles in the common space (fsaverage), and so it is a
measure of squishiness, not surface area.  I may be getting my
understanding of vertex-wise analysis mixed up with something else.
Your insight is appreciated!

Mahalo,
Jeff Sadino

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Michael Harms mha...@conte.wustl.edu wrote:

 Hi Jeff,
 Where do you get the idea that the area measures are not a real surface
 area?  Once the surface is parcellated, the area of each surface
 parcellation as provided in the aparc files is simply the area represented
 by the triangles in the mesh of the white matter surface.  If you want the
 area of the pial surface instead, you can generate those using the
 appropriate flag in mris_anatomical_stats.  But they are real areas, at
 least at the parcellation level.  (It is questionable, as I understand it,
 whether VERTEX-WISE analyses across groups of the area and volume files
 are meaningful or informative, but that is a different beast).

 Yes, for cortical quantification, you want to use the stuff in the aparc
 files, since it is based on the surface analysis stream.

 cheers,
 -MH

 Hello,

 As I understand it, the surface area measure is not a real surface
 area measure.  It is more a measure of how much the brain has to be
 stretched in order to get into a common space.  My question is that if
 the cortical volume is calculated by multiplying the thickness and the
 surface area (right?), then is it a real volume that can be compared
 between subjects?

 Also, is it is more accurate to use the cortical volume measures from
 the aparc files rather than the aseg files, since the aseg files
 overestimate the white matter due to the manual tracing it is based
 on?

 Thank you,
 Jeff
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Re: [Freesurfer] calculating percent signal change

2010-09-30 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Thomas, you may have found a bug in my scale factor calculation. Can 
you compute the new scale factor as described below? BTW, these issues 
are fixed in version 5.

cd bold/analysis
x = load('X');
tirf = x.flac0.ev(3).tirf;
Xirf = x.flac0.ev(3).Xirf;
scalefOld = sum(Xirf .* repmat(tirf,[1 size(Xirf,2)]));
TR = x.flac0.TR;
dt = tirf(2)-tirf(1);
scalefNew = sum(Xirf)*TR/dt;




Thomas Janssens wrote:
 Hello,

 I am trying to calculate the percent signal changes for my monkey data.
 I did this by running the command selxavg3-sess and looking at the cespct 
 values (or equivalently by using h.nii divided by h-offset.nii).
 I found in the mailing list that this value should be corrected by a scaling 
 factor scalef if freesurfer-4.5.0 is used (see below).

 If I apply this correction factor I got values that at first sight look 
 reasonable but if i calcultate the psc using JIP  (the imaging program from 
 Joe Mandeville), i find different values.
 And looking at the raw data I have to conclude that the value from JIP are 
 the correct ones...

 For example if i look at the same voxel in MT if find:
 with JIP: -14.45%
 with FS:   -8.15 %
 notice that the values are negative and pretty large due to the fact that we 
 use and iron oxide contrast agent.

 If, instead of applying the scaling factor scalef (defined below), I apply 
 the factor max(x.X(:,1)) as a scaling factor (which according to me is the 
 maximum value of the convolved design matrix,or 'the  EV' in FSL lingo),
 then I end up with a value of -15.09%. Which is pretty close to the value 
 obtained with JIP.
 I got the last idea from mumford.fmripower.org/perchange_guide.pdf

 Do you have any clue where the differences come from? or if I am doing 
 something wrong?

 Also, one of my colleagues used both the gamma model and FIR model to 
 calculate the percent signal change (psc) for his event-related designed 
 experiment, and the values are also quite different.
 He applied the scaling factor for the values from the gamma model, and didn't 
 do it for the fir model. What he got is 0.6% signal change if he takes the 
 peak of the time course (which looks quite ok) that fitted from the FIR model
 and 1.5% signal change from the gamma model. It seems that there is more than 
 2 times differences between these two values. Is it normal, or we need 
 another scale factor for the fir model?


 Thanks for the answers!

 regards,
 Thomas Janssens



 ps:
 My selxavg3-sess analysis was done using the following parameters in the 
 analysis.cfg file:

 -gammafit 0 8
 -gammaexp 0.3
 -timewindow 40.
 -prestim 0
 -acfbins 10
 -fix-acf
 -autostimdur
 -no-fsv3-st2fir
 -no-fsv3-whiten
 -polyfit 2
 -TER .1000
 -autowhiten 30
 -nskip 0
 -fwhm 0
 -rescale 1000



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 [Freesurfer] Calculating % Signal Change from roisummary-sess readout

 Douglas N Greve
 Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:25:52 -0700


 That's right, though you may/will run into the problem of very small
 values in which case you can use this fix:

 cd bold/analysis
 x = load('X');
 tirf = x.flac0.ev(3).tirf;
 Xirf = x.flac0.ev(3).Xirf;
 scalef = sum(Xirf .* repmat(tirf,[1 size(Xirf,2)]));

 scalef will be something like 184. Multiply the percent signal change
 you get by this number. BTW, this problem is fixed in version 5.

 doug


 Adam Nitenson wrote:
 Hi Freesurfers,

  I am trying to analyze functional activity in individual subjects.
 The structural constraint is a dACC label and the functional
 constraint is positive activation at a specific timepoint (6 sec
 after stimulus). I was just wondering what the numbers following the
 # of estimates per condition row actually represented, and how I
 could convert these to % signal change. I saw in an archived email
 http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg00171.html
 that someone mentioned taking those values, dividing by the baseline
 offset value (row 4) and multiplying by 100 to get % signal change.
 Is this a valid method?


 Adam Nitenson, B.S.
 Brain Genomics Lab
 Massachusetts General Hospital
 
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 Laboratorium voor Neuro- en Psychofysiologie
 K.U.Leuven Medical School
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 phone +32 16 33 00 35
 cell phone +32 494 115 509
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[Freesurfer] calculate the surface area of pial surface using mris_anatomical_stats

2010-09-30 Thread Zhang, Yuning
 Hi,experts,

I  am trying to get the total surface area of pial surface using the following 
command,but it seems the default surface for this command is white matter 
surface, is there any parameters i could change to get the information from 
pial surface ?

mris_anatomical_stats -l lh.cortex.label -f 
/freesurfer/subjects_1/stats/lh.cortext.stats  subjects_1 lh

Thanks a lot


best
yuning


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Re: [Freesurfer] calculate the surface area of pial surface using mris_anatomical_stats

2010-09-30 Thread Michael Harms
usage: mris_anatomical_stats [options] subject name hemi [surface
name]

So, just end your command with the word 'pial'.

cheers,
-MH


On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 17:09 +, Zhang, Yuning wrote:
  Hi,experts,
 
 I  am trying to get the total surface area of pial surface using the
 following command,but it seems the default surface for this command is
 white matter surface, is there any parameters i could change to get
 the information from pial surface ?
 
 mris_anatomical_stats -l lh.cortex.label -
 f /freesurfer/subjects_1/stats/lh.cortext.stats  subjects_1 lh  
 
 Thanks a lot
 
 
 best
 yuning
 
  
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] calculate the surface area of pial surface using mris_anatomical_stats

2010-09-30 Thread Zhang, Yuning
Does the surface area calculated here include the non-cortical area along the 
medial wall ?

Thank you very much.


From: Michael Harms [mha...@conte.wustl.edu]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:24 PM
To: Zhang, Yuning
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] calculate the surface area of pial surface using  
mris_anatomical_stats

usage: mris_anatomical_stats [options] subject name hemi [surface
name]

So, just end your command with the word 'pial'.

cheers,
-MH


On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 17:09 +, Zhang, Yuning wrote:
  Hi,experts,

 I  am trying to get the total surface area of pial surface using the
 following command,but it seems the default surface for this command is
 white matter surface, is there any parameters i could change to get
 the information from pial surface ?

 mris_anatomical_stats -l lh.cortex.label -
 f /freesurfer/subjects_1/stats/lh.cortext.stats  subjects_1 lh

 Thanks a lot


 best
 yuning



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Re: [Freesurfer] calculate the surface area of pial surface using mris_anatomical_stats

2010-09-30 Thread Bruce Fischl
you need to use the ?h.cortex.label with -l to exclude those areas.
On Thu, 
30 Sep 2010, Zhang, Yuning wrote:

 Does the surface area calculated here include the non-cortical area along the 
 medial wall ?

 Thank you very much.

 
 From: Michael Harms [mha...@conte.wustl.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:24 PM
 To: Zhang, Yuning
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] calculate the surface area of pial surface using
   mris_anatomical_stats

 usage: mris_anatomical_stats [options] subject name hemi [surface
 name]

 So, just end your command with the word 'pial'.

 cheers,
 -MH


 On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 17:09 +, Zhang, Yuning wrote:
  Hi,experts,

 I  am trying to get the total surface area of pial surface using the
 following command,but it seems the default surface for this command is
 white matter surface, is there any parameters i could change to get
 the information from pial surface ?

 mris_anatomical_stats -l lh.cortex.label -
 f /freesurfer/subjects_1/stats/lh.cortext.stats  subjects_1 lh

 Thanks a lot


 best
 yuning



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Re: [Freesurfer] calculate the surface area of pial surface using mris_anatomical_stats

2010-09-30 Thread Michael Harms

It'll be the surface area of whatever you specified by the -l flag -- in
your case everything that is part of lh.cortex.label.  You can view
exactly what that includes on tksurfer.  Doing so, you'll see that the
non-cortical area along the medial wall is excluded.

cheers,
-MH

On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 18:23 +, Zhang, Yuning wrote:
 Does the surface area calculated here include the non-cortical area along the 
 medial wall ?
 
 Thank you very much.
 
 
 From: Michael Harms [mha...@conte.wustl.edu]
 Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:24 PM
 To: Zhang, Yuning
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] calculate the surface area of pial surface using
   mris_anatomical_stats
 
 usage: mris_anatomical_stats [options] subject name hemi [surface
 name]
 
 So, just end your command with the word 'pial'.
 
 cheers,
 -MH
 
 
 On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 17:09 +, Zhang, Yuning wrote:
   Hi,experts,
 
  I  am trying to get the total surface area of pial surface using the
  following command,but it seems the default surface for this command is
  white matter surface, is there any parameters i could change to get
  the information from pial surface ?
 
  mris_anatomical_stats -l lh.cortex.label -
  f /freesurfer/subjects_1/stats/lh.cortext.stats  subjects_1 lh
 
  Thanks a lot
 
 
  best
  yuning
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] calculate the surface area of pial surface using mris_anatomical_stats

2010-09-30 Thread Zhang, Yuning
Thanks, it is really helpful !!

best
yuning

From: Zhang, Yuning
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 6:23 PM
To: Michael Harms
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: RE: [Freesurfer] calculate the surface area of pial surface using  
mris_anatomical_stats

Does the surface area calculated here include the non-cortical area along the 
medial wall ?

Thank you very much.


From: Michael Harms [mha...@conte.wustl.edu]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:24 PM
To: Zhang, Yuning
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] calculate the surface area of pial surface using  
mris_anatomical_stats

usage: mris_anatomical_stats [options] subject name hemi [surface
name]

So, just end your command with the word 'pial'.

cheers,
-MH


On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 17:09 +, Zhang, Yuning wrote:
  Hi,experts,

 I  am trying to get the total surface area of pial surface using the
 following command,but it seems the default surface for this command is
 white matter surface, is there any parameters i could change to get
 the information from pial surface ?

 mris_anatomical_stats -l lh.cortex.label -
 f /freesurfer/subjects_1/stats/lh.cortext.stats  subjects_1 lh

 Thanks a lot


 best
 yuning



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[Freesurfer] tksurfer display

2010-09-30 Thread Shugao Xia
Dear Freesurfer experts

I am new Freesurfer user, I used the command:
tksurfer fsaverage lh inflated -annot aparc.annot

In the graph showed in the window are only the vertices, not surface, see
the figure in the attachment.

how to displace the surface in the window,  which operation do I need ?  (I
tried the differerent option in the manu ''View, and I didn't get the
surface)

Thank you very much

Shugao
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[Freesurfer] QDEC 5.0 with data from 4.x recon-all data

2010-09-30 Thread Mira Michelle Raman
Hi,
  I was wondering if it were possible/advisable to use data processed and 
cached using earlier versions of FreeSurfe with the new 5.0 QDEC, since it has 
enhanced capabilities.

Sincerely,
Mira

Mira Michelle Raman
Scientific Programmer
Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
Stanford University
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Re: [Freesurfer] QDEC 5.0 with data from 4.x recon-all data

2010-09-30 Thread Nick Schmansky
yes, you may use v5 qdec with prior processed data. 

n.


On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 21:04 +0200, Christian Scheel wrote:
 Dear Mira,
 
 I posted a similar question some days ago. It seems to be possible to 
 use the new qdec version for the group analysis for data that has been 
 processed and cached with version 4.x (at least 4.05 and newer).
 
 Check this posting in the mailing archive:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg15166.html
 
 Best wishes,
 Christian
 
 
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 Christian Scheel
 University of Cologne
 Department of Psychiatry
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Am 30.09.2010 20:45, schrieb Mira Michelle Raman:
  Hi,
 I was wondering if it were possible/advisable to use data processed and 
  cached using earlier versions of FreeSurfe with the new 5.0 QDEC, since it 
  has enhanced capabilities.
 
  Sincerely,
  Mira
 
  Mira Michelle Raman
  Scientific Programmer
  Center for Interdisciplinary Brain Sciences Research
  Stanford University
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