Re: [Freesurfer] Antw: Re: [tracula] error running trac-all -prep

2013-08-19 Thread Borsodi Florian
Hi Anastasia,

Here are the bvec and bval files you asked me about. 

Sincerely, 
Florian 

 Anastasia Yendiki  18.08.13 22.52 Uhr 

Hi Florian - Can you please also attach the bvecs/bvals files from the 
dmri directory?

Thanks,
a.y

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013, Borsodi Florian wrote:

 Hi Anastasia,
 
 Thanks for your help. I renamed the directories and reran trac-all. It
 worked for the moment.
 However, then I got another error: bvecs and bvals don't have the same
 number of entries.
 I don't know why, because they actually have the same number of entries.
 
 I attached the logfile so that you may see what is going on. The error
 occours at line 1463.
 
 Thank you in advance for your help.
 
 Sincerely,
 Florian
 
 
  Anastasia Yendiki  15.08.13 18.01 Uhr 
 
 Hi Florian - I see what's going on. Can you please rename the directory
 /data/physics/florian/nii into something that doesn't include nii, and
 rerun? Because nii is a file extension, this confuses some of the
 scripts.
 
 Thanks,
 a.y
 
 On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Borsodi Florian wrote:
 
  Hi Anastasia
 
  I ran the command you sent me and it runs without any errors.
  I also attached the command line for you.
 
  Furthermore i ran data with 12 diffusion directions and i keep getting the
  same kind of problems.
 
  sincerely
  Florian
 
   Anastasia Yendiki  02.08.13 19.59 Uhr
 
 
  Hi Florian - Can you please run this command directly on the command line
  and see if there are any errors?
 
  flip4fsl
  /data/physics/florian/nii/102485074_20080319/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz
  /data/physics/florian/nii/102485074_20080319/dmri/dwi_orig_flip.nii.gz
 
  Thanks,
  a.y
 
  On Fri, 2 Aug 2013, Borsodi Florian wrote:
 
   Hi Anastasia
  
   Thank you for your answer.
  
   Yes, those files exist.
   I also extracted the bvec an bval files with anotther software then
  dcm2nii
   and i keep getting the same kind of error.
   Also, about the 6 diffusion direction, those data i sent you, are just
   testdata for running tracula.
  
   sincerely
   Florian
  
Anastasia Yendiki  02.08.13 0.41 Uhr
 
  
   Hi Florian - Do these files exist?
 /data/physics/florian/nii/102485074_20080319/dmri/dwi_orig.mghdti.bvec
 s
 
  
 /data/physics/florian/nii/102485074_20080319/dmri/dwi_orig.mghdti.bval
 s
 
  
  
   The format of the bvecs and bvals that you sent seems fine, but (and
 this
   has nothing to do with the error you're getting) I have to warn you that
   you may not be able to get good results running probabilistic
 tractography
   on this data. It looks like you're acquiring the same 6 diffusion
   directions, repeated 8 times. Six directions is the absolute minimum for
   reconstructing the tensor model, but will probably not be sufficient for
   the crossing fiber model that bedpostx reconstructs (and is used by
   tracula). Your scan time is better spent acquiring 48 different
   directions, rather than the same 6 directions 8 times.
  
   a.y
  
   On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Borsodi Florian wrote:
  
Hello,
   
I have been trying to run tracula on my data and i keep getting the
 same
kind of error repeatedly.
For my imput I am using dicoms from a Siemens scanner with a stadard
diffusion protocol. However, tracula cannot read the bvec and bval
 data
   out
of the dicom header. Therefore, I implemented bvec and bval files into
  the
config file.
After doing so, I got the error which says that tracula cannot find
 the
dwi_orig_flip.mghdti.bvecs and dwi_orig_flip.mghdti.bvals files.
I have tried many options, but still cannot find a solution.
I am hoping to get some troubleshooting help.
   
I have atteched my log- and config- files, as well as my bvec and bval
files.
To uphold patient confidentiality, I have encode the name patient's
 data
   as
AA.
   
I believe the problems are the bvec and bval files or their
 structures.
   The
log-file lete me assume this, especially the lines 202 - 205, 264 -
 268
   and
1480 - 1484.
   
Thank you in advance for your help, and your speedy response.
   
With kind regards,
   
Florian Borsodi
Department of Neurology
Medical University of Graz
   
   
  
  
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[Freesurfer] error for autorecon3

2013-08-19 Thread Troebinger, Luzia
Hi all,

I am trying to run recon-all on a structural for one of my subjects, but 
freesurfer exited with errors during the last few stages (the ones covered by 
autorecon-3). It appears that it is just missing some label - the problem 
occurs at the following stage:

painting output onto subject ME.
processing subject lh.EC_average...
MRISread (filename)
could not open file

I've used freesurfer before, same subject directory, but didn't get this error 
- it appears from the path after the MRISread command that it is just the 
subject directory, but not the directory for this particular subject.
It appears freesurfer is looking for this file, which it can't find:
/home/virtualuser/freesurfer/s_sub/lh.EC_average/surf/lh.sphere.reg
where /home/virtualuser/freesurfer/s_sub is my subject directory.

Can anyone advise as to how to fix this? Any help would be much appreciated.

Best
Luzia


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[Freesurfer] Orientation/Primary-Slice-Direction

2013-08-19 Thread Mark Plantz
Hello freesurfers,

   I have an image that is in RAS orientation with the axial primary slice
direction. Is there anyway to change this to LIA orientation with the
coronal primary slice direction? I am assuming mri_convert would work, but
I'm not sure which flags to use.

Thanks in advance.

MP
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Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec: regression with different numbers of variables

2013-08-19 Thread ye tian
Dear Doug,

Would you please shine some light on what quantities are being plotted in
those statistical maps of QDEC? Some linear combination of the columns of
the design matrix?

Also, what is the default design matrix?

Thank you very much!

Sincerely,
Ye


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Douglas Greve
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:


 1 and 3 are the same model. Calling a variable a nuisance factor is just a
 description. The model is actually
 y  = age*meditation*b1 + meditation*b2 + err = y_hat + err

 doug


 On 8/13/13 6:12 PM, ye tian wrote:

 Dear Freesurfers,

  I am studying cortical thickness as a function of age (continuous) and
 meditation practice (categorical, level1=Normal, level2=TM). I have three
 separate cases of qdec, regression1, regression2 and regression3.

  Regression1: Discrete (Fixed Factor) = meditation; Continuous
 (Covariate) = age
 Regression2: Discrete (Fixed Factor) = meditation;
 Regression3: Discrete (Fixed Factor) = meditation; Nuisance Factor = age

  For the question Does the average thickness differ between Normal and
 TM?, Regression1 and Regression3 have identical result, which is different
 from Regression2, i.e., (1 = 3 !=2 ). May I infer from this result the
 following about qdec:

  1) Regression1 and Regression3 both fit cortical thickness,y, to the
 model
 y  = b0 + age*b1 + meditation*b2 + err = y_hat + err
 Regression2 fits:
 y = b0 + b2*meditation + err = y_hat + err

  2)  Some function of y_hat goes into the average thickness, hence the
 difference between 2 and the others.

  However, what role does Nuisance Factor play in this case?

  Thank you very much!

  Sincerely,
 Ye





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Re: [Freesurfer] error for autorecon3

2013-08-19 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Luzia

the lh.EC_average should be a symlink to 
$FREESURFER_HOME/subjects/lh.EC_average

if it doesn't exist, create it with ln -s

cheers
Bruce


On Mon, 19 Aug 2013, Troebinger, Luzia wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I am trying to run recon-all on a structural for one of my subjects, but 
 freesurfer exited with errors during the last few
 stages (the ones covered by autorecon-3). It appears that it is just missing 
 some label - the problem occurs at the following
 stage:
 
 painting output onto subject ME.
 processing subject lh.EC_average...
 MRISread (filename)
 could not open file
 
 I've used freesurfer before, same subject directory, but didn't get this 
 error - it appears from the path after the MRISread
 command that it is just the subject directory, but not the directory for this 
 particular subject.
 It appears freesurfer is looking for this file, which it can't find:
 /home/virtualuser/freesurfer/s_sub/lh.EC_average/surf/lh.sphere.reg
 where /home/virtualuser/freesurfer/s_sub is my subject directory.
 
 Can anyone advise as to how to fix this? Any help would be much appreciated.
 
 Best
 Luzia
 
 
 

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Re: [Freesurfer] Trouble with mris_label2annot

2013-08-19 Thread Douglas N Greve
Your original labels are not on fsaverage. You need to transfer them to 
fsaverage using mri_label2label. That should fix your first problem. The 
2nd should be fixed by having your ctab go from 0 to 58 with 0 being the 
unknown label
doug


On 08/18/2013 02:51 PM, Stephen Politzer-Ahles wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a set of custom labels and I want to plot them all at once on 
 one brain, so I'm trying to use mris_label2annot for that. However, 
 I'm getting several problems. Here is an example of what I get:

 http://i.imgur.com/Sw1Z9UT.png

 The labels I'm using were originally defined on a decimated source 
 space (that was created using the MNE toolbox), so it's normal that 
 most of them show up as lots of dots rather than contiguous areas. 
 However, I don't know why some of them actually are showing up as 
 contiguous areas; when I plot the labels one by one, all of them show 
 up as series of dots rather than contiguous areas, so it seems that 
 creating the annotation is messing something up.

 I also have a few other problems that you can't see in the image. 
 Firstly (and most seriously), the locations of the labels that show up 
 when I plot this annotation do not at all match where the labels 
 actually are--that is, if I hover my mouse over one of the labels in 
 this, it doesn't match where the label actually should be if I plot 
 that label by itself.

 Secondly, there seems to be some indexing issue with my color lookup 
 table--I have 58 labels per hemisphere, so I created a color table 
 that starts at label 0 and goes up to 57 (as per the example at 
 http://ftp.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/LabelsClutsAnnotationFiles 
 and the automatically-generated annotations such as 
 lh.aparc2009s.annot). In my color lookup table, label 0 is called 
 'amygdala' and label 1 is called 'anteriorcommisure'. But when I 
 actually run mris_label2annot, the output seems to suggest that the 
 program is 1-indexed instead of 0-indexed (because it skips the 0th 
 label, andlooks for the 57th label, see output snippet below):

 Reading ctab /media/LAPTOP_HD/WW3_mrat/MRATparc.ctab
 Number of ctab entries 58

 $Id: mris_label2annot.c,v 1.17 2011/03/02 00:04:32 nicks Exp $
 ...
 cmdline mris_label2annot --ctab 
 /media/LAPTOP_HD/WW3_mrat/MRATparc.ctab --subject fsaverage --annot 
 MRATparc --hemi lh --l lh.amygdala.label --l 
 lh.anteriorcommissure.label --l lh.anteriornucleus.label --l 
 lh.ba1.label --l lh.ba10.label --l lh.ba11.label --l lh.ba13.label --l 
 lh.ba17.label --l lh.ba18.label --l lh.ba19.label --l lh.ba2.label --l 
 lh.ba20.label --l lh.ba21.label --l lh.ba22.label --l lh.ba23.label 
 --l lh.ba24.label --l lh.ba25.label --l lh.ba27.label --l 
 lh.ba28.label --l lh.ba29.label --l lh.ba3.label --l lh.ba30.label --l 
 lh.ba31.label --l lh.ba32.label --l lh.ba33.label --l lh.ba34.label 
 --l lh.ba35.label --l lh.ba36.label --l lh.ba37.label --l 
 lh.ba38.label --l lh.ba39.label --l lh.ba4.label --l lh.ba40.label --l 
 lh.ba41.label --l lh.ba42.label --l lh.ba43.label --l lh.ba44.label 
 --l lh.ba45.label --l lh.ba46.label --l lh.ba47.label --l lh.ba5.label 
 --l lh.ba6.label --l lh.ba7.label --l lh.ba8.label --l lh.ba9.label 
 --l lh.caudatebody.label --l lh.caudatehead.label --l 
 lh.caudatetail.label --l lh.corpuscallosum.label --l lh.culmen.label 
 --l lh.declive.label --l lh.hippocampus.label --l 
 lh.hypothalamus.label --l lh.mammillarybody.label --l 
 lh.medialdorsalnucleus.label --l lh.optictract.label --l 
 lh.pulvinar.label --l lh.putamen.label
 ...
 subject fsaverage
 hemilh
 SUBJECTS_DIR /media/LAPTOP_HD/WW3_newanalysis/subjects
 ColorTable /media/LAPTOP_HD/WW3_mrat/MRATparc.ctab
 AnnotName  MRATparc
 nlables 58
 LabelThresh 0 0.00
 Loading /media/LAPTOP_HD/WW3_newanalysis/subjects/fsaverage/surf/lh.orig
  1 3988503 anteriorcommissure
  2 11811863 anteriornucleus
  3 3957823 ba10
 ...
 56 1326221 pulvinar
 57 14423183 putamen
 58 -1 NOT_FOUND

 Does anyone have suggestions about any or all of these issues?

 Thank you,
 Steve Politzer-Ahles


 Stephen Politzer-Ahles
 New York University, Abu Dhabi
 Psychology Department
 http://www.nyu.edu/projects/politzer-ahles/


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[Freesurfer] R: Re: Statistical concerns

2013-08-19 Thread stdp82
Dear Doug, 
thank you very much for your reply!Point c, is now ok.
Stefano



Messaggio originale

Da: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

Data: 4-ago-2013 20.34

A: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

Ogg: Re: [Freesurfer] Statistical concerns




  
  


On 8/1/13 7:56 AM, std...@virgilio.it
  wrote:



  Hi list,
  I have some questions please.
  

  
  1- I have carried out Monte Carlo Simulation
to assess the difference among three groups (23, 24 and 32
subjects). Main results were confirmed also by FDR, but I prefer
to shown the Monte Carlo becouse it better describes my thesis.
  Recently I have submitted my paper but a
referee asked me Why use cluster based Monte Carlo methods for
correction of multiple comparisons instead of the more
conventional vertex-wise FDR correction? I suspect the former is
much less conservative than the latter. It would be interesting
to know the results for FDR corrected thresholds (p0.05),
and whether the present results would remain statistically
'active'.
  Now, I'm looking literature and I'm noting
that several recent articles published on top journals used
Monte Carlo Simulation (Ehrlich et al., 2013 Schizophr Bull.;
Sasamoto et al., 2013 Schizophr Bull).
  What do you think about it? How do you advise
to reply to the referee? I'd like to show Monte Carlo results.

This is a very surprising request by the reviewer. FDR is hardly
conventional, and the brain imaging community has been using
clusterwise correction for 20 years. I'm  not even sure what
voxelwise FDR is. Is that different than the one introduced by
Genovese in 2002?



 As for how to respond to the reviewer, I'm not sure. You can
certainly make a case that doing the clusterwise correction is the
industry standard.  You can also site a paper out of the Friston
group from a few years back critisizing the Genovese-style FDR. Have
you applied the Genovese-style FDR that we offer in FS? If that
works out, then there is no need to fight with the reviewer.




  

  
  2- I should do also correlation analysis. I'm
using QDEC as recommanded in guideliness

(http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/QdecGroupAnalysis_freeview).
In one group, after fsgd creation, I'm performing correlation
analysis between thickness and neuropsychiatric test scores (it
has been put in covariete windows-it should be dipendent
factor). I'm also putting some nuisance factors (they should be
dipendent factor in the regression analysis) to exclude the
their effect on data.
  a- Is this procedure corrected?
  b- Is corrected to talk regression analysis
in the text of my manuscript? 
  c- Is corrected whether I explain this
correlation analysis as reported  in the description performed
above?

I'm confused. If you are using qdec, then you put your factors
(which are independent) in the qdec table, not in the FSGD file.
Otherwise the procedure looks correct and you can talk about
regression analysis in your ms. I don't understand (c).

doug


  

  
  Thank you very much, 
  

  
  Stefano
  
  
  

  
  

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Re: [Freesurfer] Orientation/Primary-Slice-Direction

2013-08-19 Thread Douglas N Greve
try setting the orientation string to LIA

On 08/19/2013 11:15 AM, Mark Plantz wrote:
 Hello freesurfers,

I have an image that is in RAS orientation with the axial primary 
 slice direction. Is there anyway to change this to LIA orientation 
 with the coronal primary slice direction? I am assuming mri_convert 
 would work, but I'm not sure which flags to use.

 Thanks in advance.

 MP


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[Freesurfer] [Tracula] error running trac-all –path –c Configuration_file.txt

2013-08-19 Thread Francesco Siciliano
Hello,

I received an error on several terminals running trac-all –path –c 
Configuration_file.txt

55 slices processed
56 slices processed
56 slices processed
57 slices processed
57 slices processed
58 slices processed
59 slices processed
60 slices processed
61 slices processed
Queuing post processing stage
70 slices processed
For some reason the bedpostX process DOES NOT appear
to have successfully completed. Please examine your
results carefully.
/Users/jonathanposner/Desktop/MRI_Software/FSL_installer/fsl/bin/bedpostx: line 
262: kill: (15849) - No such process

Is this an indication that the processing did not finish? Could this have 
anything to do with limited computer memory?
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Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec: regression with different numbers of variables

2013-08-19 Thread ye tian
Dear Doug,

If I only have two groups, does the statistical test reduce to a two-tail
t-test?

Sorry, I meant to ask what the default contrast is, meaning what the
contrast is when I specify no nuisance factor?

Is there an official document where the QDEC setup is gone over
systematically?

Thank you very much!

Sincerely,
Ye


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:


 -log10(p) which p is the pvalue for the statistical test. The color is
 signed by the test.



 On 08/19/2013 11:19 AM, ye tian wrote:

 Dear Doug,

 Would you please shine some light on what quantities are being plotted in
 those statistical maps of QDEC? Some linear combination of the columns of
 the design matrix?

 Also, what is the default design matrix?

 Thank you very much!

 Sincerely,
 Ye


 On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Douglas Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edugr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 wrote:


 1 and 3 are the same model. Calling a variable a nuisance factor
 is just a description. The model is actually
 y  = age*meditation*b1 + meditation*b2 + err = y_hat + err

 doug


 On 8/13/13 6:12 PM, ye tian wrote:

 Dear Freesurfers,

 I am studying cortical thickness as a function of age
 (continuous) and meditation practice (categorical, level1=Normal,
 level2=TM). I have three separate cases of qdec, regression1,
 regression2 and regression3.

 Regression1: Discrete (Fixed Factor) = meditation; Continuous
 (Covariate) = age
 Regression2: Discrete (Fixed Factor) = meditation;
 Regression3: Discrete (Fixed Factor) = meditation; Nuisance
 Factor = age

 For the question Does the average thickness differ between
 Normal and TM?, Regression1 and Regression3 have identical
 result, which is different from Regression2, i.e., (1 = 3 !=2 ).
 May I infer from this result the following about qdec:

 1) Regression1 and Regression3 both fit cortical thickness,y, to
 the model
 y  = b0 + age*b1 + meditation*b2 + err = y_hat + err
 Regression2 fits:
 y = b0 + b2*meditation + err = y_hat + err

 2)  Some function of y_hat goes into the average thickness,
 hence the difference between 2 and the others.

 However, what role does Nuisance Factor play in this case?

 Thank you very much!

 Sincerely,
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Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec: regression with different numbers of variables

2013-08-19 Thread Douglas N Greve

QDEC creates a sentence that describes each contrast. Is that sentence 
not clear? I think the only other docs we have for QDEC are the tutorial.
doug





On 08/19/2013 12:19 PM, ye tian wrote:
 Dear Doug,

 If I only have two groups, does the statistical test reduce to a 
 two-tail t-test?

 Sorry, I meant to ask what the default contrast is, meaning what the 
 contrast is when I specify no nuisance factor?

 Is there an official document where the QDEC setup is gone over 
 systematically?

 Thank you very much!

 Sincerely,
 Ye


 On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 -log10(p) which p is the pvalue for the statistical test. The
 color is signed by the test.



 On 08/19/2013 11:19 AM, ye tian wrote:

 Dear Doug,

 Would you please shine some light on what quantities are being
 plotted in those statistical maps of QDEC? Some linear
 combination of the columns of the design matrix?

 Also, what is the default design matrix?

 Thank you very much!

 Sincerely,
 Ye


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 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 1 and 3 are the same model. Calling a variable a nuisance
 factor
 is just a description. The model is actually
 y  = age*meditation*b1 + meditation*b2 + err = y_hat + err

 doug


 On 8/13/13 6:12 PM, ye tian wrote:

 Dear Freesurfers,

 I am studying cortical thickness as a function of age
 (continuous) and meditation practice (categorical,
 level1=Normal,
 level2=TM). I have three separate cases of qdec,
 regression1,
 regression2 and regression3.

 Regression1: Discrete (Fixed Factor) = meditation;
 Continuous
 (Covariate) = age
 Regression2: Discrete (Fixed Factor) = meditation;
 Regression3: Discrete (Fixed Factor) = meditation;
 Nuisance
 Factor = age

 For the question Does the average thickness differ
 between
 Normal and TM?, Regression1 and Regression3 have
 identical
 result, which is different from Regression2, i.e., (1
 = 3 !=2 ).
 May I infer from this result the following about qdec:

 1) Regression1 and Regression3 both fit cortical
 thickness,y, to
 the model
 y  = b0 + age*b1 + meditation*b2 + err = y_hat + err
 Regression2 fits:
 y = b0 + b2*meditation + err = y_hat + err

 2)  Some function of y_hat goes into the average
 thickness,
 hence the difference between 2 and the others.

 However, what role does Nuisance Factor play in this
 case?

 Thank you very much!

 Sincerely,
 Ye





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[Freesurfer] Two Inquiries

2013-08-19 Thread Liane Hunter
1. Segmentation of partial brain

Dear FreeSurfers,

1. Can I expect recon-all to work on a T1W image where only part of the
brain is in FOV? The obvious answer is that I should just try, but it would
help to know in case I get unexpected results. Perhaps a more appropriate
question is: what should I expect to work and what should I expect to fail.

Thank you,

--
2. Rotated segmentation

Dear FreeSurfers,

I start with a T1W image in NIFTI format. After running recon-all, I
use mri_convert
to convert aseg.mgz to aseg.nii. This aseg.nii image does not overlay the
original T1W. It is slightly rotated. Is it normal? If I would like to make
it overlay what should I do? Register using flirt?


Thank you,
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Re: [Freesurfer] Two Inquiries

2013-08-19 Thread Douglas N Greve

On 08/19/2013 12:42 PM, Liane Hunter wrote:

 1. Segmentation of partial brain

 Dear FreeSurfers,

 1. Can I expect recon-all to work on a T1W image where only part of 
 the brain is in FOV? The obvious answer is that I should just try, but 
 it would help to know in case I get unexpected results. Perhaps a more 
 appropriate question is: what should I expect to work and what should 
 I expect to fail.


I doubt it will work. I the regsitrations will likely fail.

 Thank you,

 --
 2. Rotated segmentation

 Dear FreeSurfers,

 I start with a T1W image in NIFTI format. After running recon-all, I 
 use mri_convert to convert aseg.mgz to aseg.nii. This aseg.nii image 
 does not overlay the original T1W. It is slightly rotated. Is it 
 normal? If I would like to make it overlay what should I do? Register 
 using flirt?

See this page
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsAnat-to-NativeAnat



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Re: [Freesurfer] [Tracula] error running trac-all –path –c Configuration_file.txt

2013-08-19 Thread Francesco Siciliano


From: Francesco Siciliano
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 12:54 PM
To: Francesco Siciliano
Subject: RE: [Tracula] error running trac-all –path –c Configuration_file.txt

I also noticed that even on those that appeared to finish, there was no dpath 
folder. Any help would be greatly appreciated!


Francesco Siciliano, B.A.
Research Assistant
Department of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
The New York State Psychiatric Institute
Columbia University
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From: Francesco Siciliano
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 12:13 PM
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: [Tracula] error running trac-all –path –c Configuration_file.txt

Hello,

I received an error on several terminals running trac-all –path –c 
Configuration_file.txt

55 slices processed
56 slices processed
56 slices processed
57 slices processed
57 slices processed
58 slices processed
59 slices processed
60 slices processed
61 slices processed
Queuing post processing stage
70 slices processed
For some reason the bedpostX process DOES NOT appear
to have successfully completed. Please examine your
results carefully.
/Users/jonathanposner/Desktop/MRI_Software/FSL_installer/fsl/bin/bedpostx: line 
262: kill: (15849) - No such process

Is this an indication that the processing did not finish? Could this have 
anything to do with limited computer memory?
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Re: [Freesurfer] few questions regarding qdec

2013-08-19 Thread Douglas N Greve

On 08/16/2013 05:02 PM, Binod Thapa-Chhetry wrote:
 HI all,

 We had submitted a paper based on cortical thickness analysis in Qdec. 
 The reviewer's had couple concerns regarding the QDec analysis. We 
 would appreciate your help to address/resolve those issues. Here are 
 the concerns:

 (1) What was the rationale of using 10mm smoothing? The typical fMRI 
 values for volumteric work is 2-3 x the original voxel size. What's 
 the reason for this value?

 Our response so far: A smoothing kernel of 10 mm was chosen because 
 this setting had been published recently in articles that performed 
 similar analyses.  10 mm therefore was a typical parameter for this 
 type of analysis.  This setting was also the default in the QDEC GUI, 
 also suggesting that it was a typical setting.  We only performed 
 analyses of the data for this project using this setting and did not 
 iteratively test multiple kernel widths.  Also, the FWHM for cortical 
 thickness analyses is somewhat larger than that used in fMRI analyses 
 because it is applied to surface, as opposed to volume-based data.  
 Surface based data are not prone to the same artifacts of including 
 white matter, csf or brain tissue on the other side of a sulcus as 
 volume-based data are.
I think this is a good answer for a question that is not entirely fair. 
Aside from a few arguments about making GRF work, no one has ever had 
much of a justification for the particular choice of FWHM. It is just 
traditional at this point. You might point out that more smoothing is 
generally considered worse and that 10mm on the surface is much less 
than 10mm in the volume and people use 10mm in the volume is not unusual.

 (2) What's the p-value to get in for a cluster-wise analysis and what 
 size is a significant cluster? It's important to know these non 
 cluster-wise values to get a sense of the parameters that determine 
 significance.

 Our response so far: QDEC does not have a parameter that can be 
 adjusted for cluster size or extent as other whole brain analyses such 
 as Statistical Parametric Mapping do.  The researcher can only 
 indicate a statistical cutoff.  We used a p value cutoff of 0.05 after 
 a correction for multiple comparisons that was based on the Monte 
 Carlo permutation cluster analysis with 10,000 iterations. 
 Additionally, our findings comprise of pretty large clusters. This 
 obviates the reason for cluster-thresholding  based on size.
I'm not sure what the reviewer is asking. Is he/she asking for the 
cluster-forming, ie, voxel-wise, threshold? Or the p-value threshold for 
the cluster that you used to report clusters? You should report both. 
Both can be set in the QDEC GUI. I think the defaults are .01 and .05 
respectively. Given the clusterwise p-value, there is a corresponding 
critical cluster size. You can get this from a file in the QDEC output 
folder (in the contrast subfolder). The file will be called something 
like cache.th20.abs.pdf.dat. The 2nd column gives you the cluster size 
(in mm2) and the 4th column gives you the clusterwise p-value. Find the 
size of the cluster that corresponds to .05. In one data set I looked 
at, the size was about 328mm^2

doug





 Thanks in advance for the response.
 Binod





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[Freesurfer] RAS to Talairach

2013-08-19 Thread sujith vijayan
I am looking at intracranial electrode recordings from some epileptic
patients. The locations of the electrodes have been determined using a
preoperative MRI and a postoperative CT scan. The locations are in RAS
coordinates. Is there some sort of function that will allow me to translate
the RAS coordinates to Talairach coordiantes? Or some sort of function that
will output an anatomical label for each of the RAS coordinates?

Please let me know what I need in addition to the RAS coordinates as a .mat
file. For example, do I need to install FreeSurfer? What additional files
do I need?

My preference would be to do this all in Matlab.

Sincerely,
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Re: [Freesurfer] few questions regarding qdec

2013-08-19 Thread Alex Hanganu
Hi

Du A.T. Brain 2007 ”Different regional patterns of cortical thinning in 
AD - used the smoothing level of 10-mm. This article can be added as 
reference.

Additionally higher smoothing levels, for ex. at 20 mm, would bring 
partially inflated patterns due to excessive smoothing and due to 
failure of inference methods to control the proportion of false 
discoveries - Bernal-Rusiel, Neuroimage 2010 
(www.ncibi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20362677)
while lower smoothing levels have an increased potential of preserving 
clusters with low significance.

alex.


Le 19/8 12:58, Douglas N Greve a écrit :
 On 08/16/2013 05:02 PM, Binod Thapa-Chhetry wrote:
 HI all,

 We had submitted a paper based on cortical thickness analysis in Qdec.
 The reviewer's had couple concerns regarding the QDec analysis. We
 would appreciate your help to address/resolve those issues. Here are
 the concerns:

 (1) What was the rationale of using 10mm smoothing? The typical fMRI
 values for volumteric work is 2-3 x the original voxel size. What's
 the reason for this value?

 Our response so far: A smoothing kernel of 10 mm was chosen because
 this setting had been published recently in articles that performed
 similar analyses.  10 mm therefore was a typical parameter for this
 type of analysis.  This setting was also the default in the QDEC GUI,
 also suggesting that it was a typical setting.  We only performed
 analyses of the data for this project using this setting and did not
 iteratively test multiple kernel widths.  Also, the FWHM for cortical
 thickness analyses is somewhat larger than that used in fMRI analyses
 because it is applied to surface, as opposed to volume-based data.
 Surface based data are not prone to the same artifacts of including
 white matter, csf or brain tissue on the other side of a sulcus as
 volume-based data are.
 I think this is a good answer for a question that is not entirely fair.
 Aside from a few arguments about making GRF work, no one has ever had
 much of a justification for the particular choice of FWHM. It is just
 traditional at this point. You might point out that more smoothing is
 generally considered worse and that 10mm on the surface is much less
 than 10mm in the volume and people use 10mm in the volume is not unusual.
 (2) What's the p-value to get in for a cluster-wise analysis and what
 size is a significant cluster? It's important to know these non
 cluster-wise values to get a sense of the parameters that determine
 significance.

 Our response so far: QDEC does not have a parameter that can be
 adjusted for cluster size or extent as other whole brain analyses such
 as Statistical Parametric Mapping do.  The researcher can only
 indicate a statistical cutoff.  We used a p value cutoff of 0.05 after
 a correction for multiple comparisons that was based on the Monte
 Carlo permutation cluster analysis with 10,000 iterations.
 Additionally, our findings comprise of pretty large clusters. This
 obviates the reason for cluster-thresholding  based on size.
 I'm not sure what the reviewer is asking. Is he/she asking for the
 cluster-forming, ie, voxel-wise, threshold? Or the p-value threshold for
 the cluster that you used to report clusters? You should report both.
 Both can be set in the QDEC GUI. I think the defaults are .01 and .05
 respectively. Given the clusterwise p-value, there is a corresponding
 critical cluster size. You can get this from a file in the QDEC output
 folder (in the contrast subfolder). The file will be called something
 like cache.th20.abs.pdf.dat. The 2nd column gives you the cluster size
 (in mm2) and the 4th column gives you the clusterwise p-value. Find the
 size of the cluster that corresponds to .05. In one data set I looked
 at, the size was about 328mm^2

 doug




 Thanks in advance for the response.
 Binod





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Re: [Freesurfer] [Tracula] error running trac-all –path –c Configuration_file.txt

2013-08-19 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


Hi Francesco - There's a list of bedpostx output files here:
http://fsl.fmrib.ox.ac.uk/fsl/fsl4.0/fdt/fdt_bedpostx.html

The best way to determine if bedpostx finished running properly is to 
check if those files were created in the dmri.bedpostX directory.


a.y

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013, Francesco Siciliano wrote:


Hello,
I received an error on several terminals running trac-all –path –c 
Configuration_file.txt

55 slices processed
56 slices processed
56 slices processed
57 slices processed
57 slices processed
58 slices processed
59 slices processed
60 slices processed
61 slices processed
Queuing post processing stage
70 slices processed
For some reason the bedpostX process DOES NOT appear
to have successfully completed. Please examine your
results carefully.
/Users/jonathanposner/Desktop/MRI_Software/FSL_installer/fsl/bin/bedpostx: line 
262: kill: (15849) - No such process

Is this an indication that the processing did not finish? Could this have 
anything to do with limited computer
memory? 

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Re: [Freesurfer] RAS to Talairach

2013-08-19 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Sujith, look at this page and see if it answers your questions

http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/CoordinateSystems

doug

On 08/19/2013 01:23 PM, sujith vijayan wrote:
 I am looking at intracranial electrode recordings from some epileptic 
 patients. The locations of the electrodes have been determined using a 
 preoperative MRI and a postoperative CT scan. The locations are in RAS 
 coordinates. Is there some sort of function that will allow me to 
 translate the RAS coordinates to Talairach coordiantes? Or some sort 
 of function that will output an anatomical label for each of the RAS 
 coordinates?

 Please let me know what I need in addition to the RAS coordinates as a 
 .mat file. For example, do I need to install FreeSurfer? What 
 additional files do I need?

 My preference would be to do this all in Matlab.

 Sincerely,
 Sujith


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[Freesurfer] funcroi-table-sess error, set: Variable name must begin with a letter

2013-08-19 Thread Joseph Andreano
Hi All,

I'm trying to use funcroi-table-sess, but whenever I send this command:

funcroi-table-sess -roi l_amyg_test -analysis habit_concat.mni305
-contrast neg1Vfix -sf subjects.lst -o l_amyg_neg1Vfix.dat

I get this error:

set: Variable name must begin with a letter

So far as I can tell, all the variables in that command begin with a 
letter.  Any idea what the problem might be?


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Re: [Freesurfer] trac-all inquiry

2013-08-19 Thread Alan Francis
Hi Anastasia:

I wish to echo David's sentiments. Thanks for this great software. I was
able to process and extract data for all brains without losing any of the
brains. Thanks so much.

best,

Alan


On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Anastasia Yendiki 
ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:


 Ok, actually the error about the data and bvals/bvecs not having the same
 size occured the first time you ran trac-all, but it seems to have been
 fixed the second time you ran it, based on the log file.

 I suspect the current problem is caused by poor registration. Have you
 checked the aparc+aseg and/or the registration from diffusion to
 anatomical and from anatomical to MNI?

 On Fri, 16 Aug 2013, David Soto wrote:

  hi - yes it as 65 -output pasted below, cheers
 
  dsoto@wmen-dsoto3:~/Documents/fmri/rsdtianawmgui/14AB/dmri$ mri_info
  dwi.nii.gz Volume information for dwi.nii.gz
   type: nii
 dimensions: 96 x 96 x 46 x 65
voxel sizes: 2., 2., 2.2999
   type: FLOAT (3)
fov: 224.000
dof: 0
 xstart: -112.0, xend: 112.0
 ystart: -112.0, yend: 112.0
 zstart: -52.9, zend: 52.9
 TR: 1000.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle:
 0.00
  degrees
nframes: 65
PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
  ras xform present
 xform info: x_r =  -1., y_r =   0., z_r =   0., c_r =
  0.
   : x_a =   0., y_a =   0.9774, z_a =  -0.2112, c_a =
  2.1015
   : x_s =   0., y_s =   0.2112, z_s =   0.9774, c_s =
  19.9194
  Orientation   : LAS
  Primary Slice Direction: axial
 
  voxel to ras transform:
-2.   0.   0.   112.
 0.   2.2807  -0.4858   -96.1994
 0.   0.4928   2.2480   -55.4405
 0.   0.   0. 1.
 
  voxel-to-ras determinant -12.5217
 
  ras to voxel transform:
-0.4286   0.   0.48.
-0.   0.4189   0.090545.3166
-0.  -0.0918   0.425014.7274
 0.   0.   0. 1.
 
  http://www1.imperial.ac.uk/medicine/people/d.soto/
  On 16/08/13 16:13, Anastasia Yendiki wrote:
  mri_info dmri/dwi.nii.gz
 
 
 
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[Freesurfer] Curvature/folding stats

2013-08-19 Thread Michael Kranz
Hi all,

What's the difference between the curvature and folding measures outputted
in the aparc stats files (i.e. mean, gaussian, folding index, and curvature
index)? Additionally, which measures are the most reliable for individual
differences?

Thanks,
Mike

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[Freesurfer] make_average_subject without aparc and talairach.xfm

2013-08-19 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
Hi Freesurfer experts,
I am trying to make an average surface from several monkey surfaces, and I
ran into a problem with make_average_subject. Specifically, I do not have
an aparc file nor a talairach.xfm. It seems that these problems have come
up on the list before (
http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg15595.html).
I tried to download make_average_surface.no-aparc, however, the link seems
to be broken. Also, I couldn't find a solution to the missing talairach.xfm
on the list.
It would be great if you could provide me with a working link to
make_average_surface.no-aparc; any suggestions regarding making an average
surface without talairach.xfm would be appreciated.
I already made a new template and aligned all individual surfaces to this
template.

Thanks!
Caspar
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[Freesurfer] segmentation fault - recon-all

2013-08-19 Thread Mark Plantz
Hello all,

While running recon-all for a subject, I ran into the following error
message:

*reading aseg from
/Users/IngvalsonLab/Desktop/avgseg_seg_test/mri/aseg.auto_noCCseg.mgz*

*reading norm from /Users/IngvalsonLab/Desktop/avgseg_seg_test/mri/norm.mgz*

*0 voxels in left wm, 0 in right wm, xrange [-1, 257]*

*searching rotation angles z=[-7  7], y=[83 97]*

*searching scale 1 Z rot 6.8  global minimum found at slice 0.0, rotations
(90.00, -0.00)*

*final transformation (x=0.0, yr=90.000, zr=-0.000):*

*-0.000   0.000   1.000   128.000;*

*-0.000   1.000  -0.000   128.000;*

*-1.000   0.000   0.000   128.000;*

* 0.000   0.000   0.000   1.000;*

*Segmentation fault*

*Darwin dhcp-165-124-23-248.prevmed.northwestern.edu 12.4.0 Darwin Kernel
Version 12.4.0: Wed May  1 17:57:12 PDT 2013;
root:xnu-2050.24.15~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64*

*recon-all -s avgseg_seg_test exited with ERRORS at Mon Aug 19 13:32:28 CDT
2013*

*
*

I don't know if this error is directly related to the actual brain
segmentation, but recon-all was run with a different gca atlas. The command
was:

recon-all -gca atlas.gca -all -s subjID


My best guess is that the .gca file is the source of the problem, but I am
not sure why recon-all would make it to the final transformation and then
throw an error.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

MP
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Re: [Freesurfer] Curvature/folding stats

2013-08-19 Thread Douglas N Greve

check out these links

http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/MeanCurvature
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/GaussianCurvature

On 08/19/2013 02:15 PM, Michael Kranz wrote:
 Hi all,

 What's the difference between the curvature and folding measures 
 outputted in the aparc stats files (i.e. mean, gaussian, folding 
 index, and curvature index)? Additionally, which measures are the most 
 reliable for individual differences?

 Thanks,
 Mike

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Re: [Freesurfer] make_average_subject without aparc and talairach.xfm

2013-08-19 Thread Douglas N Greve

I've put that script here

ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/make_average_surface.no-aparc


On 08/19/2013 02:53 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
 Hi Freesurfer experts,
 I am trying to make an average surface from several monkey surfaces, 
 and I ran into a problem with make_average_subject. Specifically, I do 
 not have an aparc file nor a talairach.xfm. It seems that these 
 problems have come up on the list before 
 (http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg15595.html). 
 I tried to download make_average_surface.no-aparc, however, the link 
 seems to be broken. Also, I couldn't find a solution to the missing 
 talairach.xfm on the list.
 It would be great if you could provide me with a working link to 
 make_average_surface.no-aparc; any suggestions regarding making an 
 average surface without talairach.xfm would be appreciated.
 I already made a new template and aligned all individual surfaces to 
 this template.

 Thanks!
 Caspar



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Re: [Freesurfer] make_average_subject without aparc and talairach.xfm

2013-08-19 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
Hi Doug,
that's great, thank you very much.
From the previous posts I assume that this does not solve the issue with
the missing Talairach.xfm. Do you have a recommendation for that?
Thanks, Caspar


2013/8/19 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu


 I've put that script here


 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/make_average_surface.no-aparc


 On 08/19/2013 02:53 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
  Hi Freesurfer experts,
  I am trying to make an average surface from several monkey surfaces,
  and I ran into a problem with make_average_subject. Specifically, I do
  not have an aparc file nor a talairach.xfm. It seems that these
  problems have come up on the list before
  (
 http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg15595.html).
  I tried to download make_average_surface.no-aparc, however, the link
  seems to be broken. Also, I couldn't find a solution to the missing
  talairach.xfm on the list.
  It would be great if you could provide me with a working link to
  make_average_surface.no-aparc; any suggestions regarding making an
  average surface without talairach.xfm would be appreciated.
  I already made a new template and aligned all individual surfaces to
  this template.
 
  Thanks!
  Caspar
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] make_average_subject without aparc and talairach.xfm

2013-08-19 Thread Douglas N Greve

I would probably just try to do it by hand. Copy a file with the 
identity matrix into the right folder, then run

tkregister2 --fstal --s subject

It will bring the human atlas up. I would then play with it a little bit 
to get it to look ok. For surface-based applications, it will have no 
effect on statistics, but it will affect the appearance of the pial and 
white surfaces (if you display your results on those instead of on the 
inflated). If you are not going to display on the white or the pial, 
then you can just leave it as the identity

doug



On 08/19/2013 03:57 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
 Hi Doug,
 that's great, thank you very much.
 From the previous posts I assume that this does not solve the issue 
 with the missing Talairach.xfm. Do you have a recommendation for that?
 Thanks, Caspar


 2013/8/19 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu


 I've put that script here

 
 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/make_average_surface.no-aparc


 On 08/19/2013 02:53 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
  Hi Freesurfer experts,
  I am trying to make an average surface from several monkey surfaces,
  and I ran into a problem with make_average_subject.
 Specifically, I do
  not have an aparc file nor a talairach.xfm. It seems that these
  problems have come up on the list before
 
 
 (http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg15595.html).
  I tried to download make_average_surface.no-aparc, however, the link
  seems to be broken. Also, I couldn't find a solution to the missing
  talairach.xfm on the list.
  It would be great if you could provide me with a working link to
  make_average_surface.no-aparc; any suggestions regarding making an
  average surface without talairach.xfm would be appreciated.
  I already made a new template and aligned all individual surfaces to
  this template.
 
  Thanks!
  Caspar
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] funcroi-table-sess error, set: Variable name must begin with a letter

2013-08-19 Thread Douglas N Greve

Is there a folder called log in the directly you are running it from? 
If not, try creating one. If so, then
run it with -debug as the first arg and send me the terminal output.

doug


On 08/19/2013 02:07 PM, Joseph Andreano wrote:
 Hi All,

 I'm trying to use funcroi-table-sess, but whenever I send this command:

 funcroi-table-sess -roi l_amyg_test -analysis habit_concat.mni305
 -contrast neg1Vfix -sf subjects.lst -o l_amyg_neg1Vfix.dat

 I get this error:

 set: Variable name must begin with a letter

 So far as I can tell, all the variables in that command begin with a
 letter.  Any idea what the problem might be?


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Re: [Freesurfer] fcseed-sess error

2013-08-19 Thread Douglas N Greve

That looks good. Run these commands

cd AC30_1319/Bold1/001
mri_label2vol --aparc+aseg --temp template.nii.gz --reg 
register.dof6.dat --o aparc+aseg.nii.gz
mri_binarize --i aparc+aseg.nii.gz --match 4 --match 5 --match 43 
--match 44 --match 31 --match 63 --count countfile.dat

then send me the contents of countfile.dat

doug



On 08/19/2013 02:27 PM, Omar Singleton wrote:
 Sorry about that. I must have clicked 'reply' by mistake rather than
 'reply all'. I wouldn't want to deprive anyone of the opportunity to help
 me resolve this issue.

 --The issue--
 I looked at the segmentation in tkmedit and the labels for the ventricles
 showed up the same as in subjects that worked. I checked registration by
 eye and used this command from the tutorial:

 tkregister-sess -s AC30_1319 -fsd Bold1 -per-run -bbr-sum

 Which output:

 AC30_1319  001 0.4437

 I'm not sure what the problem is with these subjects. Is there another way
 I should check the data? Any suggestions?

 -Omar

 Hi Omar, can you post questions to the list instead of us personally?
 thanks!
 doug

 On 08/19/2013 09:41 AM, Omar Singleton wrote:
 Hi Doug,

 Thanks for the help. I looked at the segmentation in tkmedit and the
 labels for the ventricles showed up the same as in subjects that worked.
 I
 checked registration by eye and used this command from the tutorial:

 tkregister-sess -s AC30_1319 -fsd Bold1 -per-run -bbr-sum

 Which output:

 AC30_1319  001 0.4437

 I'm not sure what the problem is with these subjects. Is there another
 way
 I should check the data? Do you have any other suggestions?

 Best,
 Omar

 Hi Omar,  it is not finding any ventricle voxels. Check the FS
 segmentation to make sure that the ventricles are labeled and also
 check
 the registration to make sure it looks ok.
 doug


 On 8/14/13 12:04 PM, O S wrote:
 Dear Support,

 I am trying to use fcseed-sess to create a ventricle and CSF regressor
 for
 my resting state analysis. I have encountered an error running
 fcseed-sess.

 fcseed-config -vcsf -fsd Bold1 -mean -cfg vcsf_bold1_config -overwrite

 works, but then the following command fails:

 fcseed-sess -s AC30_1319 -cfg vcsf_bold1_config -overwrite

 The above command worked for half my subjects and had the below error
 for
 half with no discernible pattern. I've run it on jizo as well as my
 home
 machine with the same error.


 Cut-and-paste the following info into your FreeSurfer problem report:
 -

 FREESURFER_HOME: /usr/local/freesurfer/stable5_3_0

 Build stamp: freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-v5.3.0-20130514

 RedHat release: CentOS release 6.4 (Final)

 Kernel info: Linux 2.6.32-358.2.1.el6.x86_64 x86_64

 NMR Center info (/space/freesurfer exists):

  machine: jizo

  SUBJECTS_DIR: /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs

  PWD: /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs

  ssh jizo
  setenv SUBJECTS_DIR
 /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs
  cd /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs
 -

 I would appreciate any help. Let me know if anything is unclear.

 Thank!
 Best,
 Omar

 Error Message
 *

 [jizo:fc_fs] (nmr-stable53-env) fcseed-sess -s AC30_1319 -cfg
 vcsf_bold1_config -overwrite
 Logfile is
 /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs/log/fcseed-sess.vcsf_bold1_config.log.AC30_1319
 Wed Aug 14 11:31:50 EDT 2013
 Linux jizo 2.6.32-358.2.1.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Mar 13 00:26:49 UTC
 2013
 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 setenv SUBJECTS_DIR
 /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs
 cd /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs
 /usr/local/freesurfer/stable5_3_0/fsfast/bin/fcseed-sess
 -s AC30_1319 -cfg vcsf_bold1_config -overwrite
 freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-v5.3.0-20130514
 Wed Aug 14 11:31:50 EDT 2013
 Linux jizo 2.6.32-358.2.1.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Mar 13 00:26:49 UTC
 2013
 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 setenv SUBJECTS_DIR
 /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs
 cd /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs
 /usr/local/freesurfer/stable5_3_0/fsfast/bin/fcseed-sess
 -s AC30_1319 -cfg vcsf_bold1_config -overwrite
 freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-v5.3.0-20130514

 mri_label2vol --seg
 /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs/AC30_1319/mri/aparc+aseg.mgz
 --reg
 /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs/AC30_1319/Bold1/001/register.dof6.dat
 --temp
 /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs/AC30_1319/Bold1/001/template.nii.gz
 --fillthresh .95 --o
 /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs/AC30_1319/Bold1/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.2081/seg.nii.gz
 --pvf
 /autofs/cluster/lazar/projects/Omar/aging_conn/fc_fs/AC30_1319/Bold1/001/tmp.fcseed-sess.2081/pvf.nii.gz
 PVF
 

Re: [Freesurfer] [Tracula] error running trac-all –path –c Configuration_file.txt

2013-08-19 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


Hi Francesco - The bedpostx files are created when you run trac-all -bedp. 
Then you need to run trac-all -path to reconstruct the paths under 
dpath/... as the final step. Did you run this?


a.y

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013, Francesco Siciliano wrote:


Thank you!

Is it normal, however, not to have a dpath folder with summary statistics? I 
have all of the bedpostx output files, however, I seem to be missing the dpath 
folder as well as a script confirming that -path was completed.

Thanks,
Francesco

From: Anastasia Yendiki [ayend...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 1:56 PM
To: Francesco Siciliano
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] [Tracula] error running trac-all –path –c 
Configuration_file.txt

Hi Francesco - There's a list of bedpostx output files here:
   http://fsl.fmrib.ox.ac.uk/fsl/fsl4.0/fdt/fdt_bedpostx.html

The best way to determine if bedpostx finished running properly is to
check if those files were created in the dmri.bedpostX directory.

a.y

On Mon, 19 Aug 2013, Francesco Siciliano wrote:


Hello,
I received an error on several terminals running trac-all –path –c 
Configuration_file.txt

55 slices processed
56 slices processed
56 slices processed
57 slices processed
57 slices processed
58 slices processed
59 slices processed
60 slices processed
61 slices processed
Queuing post processing stage
70 slices processed
For some reason the bedpostX process DOES NOT appear
to have successfully completed. Please examine your
results carefully.
/Users/jonathanposner/Desktop/MRI_Software/FSL_installer/fsl/bin/bedpostx: line 
262: kill: (15849) - No such process

Is this an indication that the processing did not finish? Could this have 
anything to do with limited computer
memory?





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[Freesurfer] mergecontrasts-sess - Comparisons between subjects

2013-08-19 Thread preciado
Is it possible to do a conjunction analysis between subjects using one
contrast? So far I've been able to do comparisons between contrasts within
subjects but not between subjects.

Thanks,
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Re: [Freesurfer] mergecontrasts-sess - Comparisons between subjects

2013-08-19 Thread Douglas N Greve

Hi Ronny, you can use mri_concat with the --conjunction option, but I 
don't have a -sess command that does it
doug


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 Is it possible to do a conjunction analysis between subjects using one
 contrast? So far I've been able to do comparisons between contrasts within
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Re: [Freesurfer] make_average_subject without aparc and talairach.xfm

2013-08-19 Thread Caspar M. Schwiedrzik
Hi Doug,
I ran make_average_surface.no-aparc and identity matrices on my data, and I
seems to have completed the averaging without an error. However, when I try
to view the result with tksurfer, I get an error because there is no
average T1 for the average subject. How would you recommend I go about
this? Do you have a make_average_volume.no-aparc as well, shall I make an
average T1 manually, or can I skip the average T1?
Thanks!
Caspar



2013/8/19 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu


 I would probably just try to do it by hand. Copy a file with the identity
 matrix into the right folder, then run

 tkregister2 --fstal --s subject

 It will bring the human atlas up. I would then play with it a little bit
 to get it to look ok. For surface-based applications, it will have no
 effect on statistics, but it will affect the appearance of the pial and
 white surfaces (if you display your results on those instead of on the
 inflated). If you are not going to display on the white or the pial, then
 you can just leave it as the identity

 doug




 On 08/19/2013 03:57 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:

 Hi Doug,
 that's great, thank you very much.
 From the previous posts I assume that this does not solve the issue with
 the missing Talairach.xfm. Do you have a recommendation for that?
 Thanks, Caspar


 2013/8/19 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu



 I've put that script here

 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.**edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/**
 greve/make_average_surface.no-**aparcftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/make_average_surface.no-aparc


 On 08/19/2013 02:53 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
  Hi Freesurfer experts,
  I am trying to make an average surface from several monkey surfaces,
  and I ran into a problem with make_average_subject.
 Specifically, I do
  not have an aparc file nor a talairach.xfm. It seems that these
  problems have come up on the list before
 
 (http://www.mail-archive.com/**freesur...@nmr.mgh.harvard.**
 edu/msg15595.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg15595.html
 ).
  I tried to download make_average_surface.no-aparc, however, the link
  seems to be broken. Also, I couldn't find a solution to the missing
  talairach.xfm on the list.
  It would be great if you could provide me with a working link to
  make_average_surface.no-aparc; any suggestions regarding making an
  average surface without talairach.xfm would be appreciated.
  I already made a new template and aligned all individual surfaces to
  this template.
 
  Thanks!
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[Freesurfer] Fwd: calloc error

2013-08-19 Thread Arno Klein
i have tried running the centos 4  6 versions of freesurfer on ubuntu
12.04, and with either i am getting a memory error when i simply run
mri_info on an mgz file (this does not happen on my osx
machine
for the same file
, and the license file is fine):


znzTAGskip: tag=1667787808, failed to calloc 606085120 bytes!

Cannot allocate memory


any help would be appreciated.

cheers,
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Re: [Freesurfer] make_average_subject without aparc and talairach.xfm

2013-08-19 Thread Douglas Greve


You can just copy in the T1.mgz from fsaverage (won't matter that it is 
human), or you can try running make_average_volume to make a NHP 
volume.  Not sure that will work, but make sure to use --no-aseg


doug


On 8/19/13 8:43 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:

Hi Doug,
I ran make_average_surface.no-aparc and identity matrices on my data, 
and I seems to have completed the averaging without an error. However, 
when I try to view the result with tksurfer, I get an error because 
there is no average T1 for the average subject. How would you 
recommend I go about this? Do you have a make_average_volume.no-aparc 
as well, shall I make an average T1 manually, or can I skip the 
average T1?

Thanks!
Caspar



2013/8/19 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu



I would probably just try to do it by hand. Copy a file with the
identity matrix into the right folder, then run

tkregister2 --fstal --s subject

It will bring the human atlas up. I would then play with it a
little bit to get it to look ok. For surface-based applications,
it will have no effect on statistics, but it will affect the
appearance of the pial and white surfaces (if you display your
results on those instead of on the inflated). If you are not going
to display on the white or the pial, then you can just leave it as
the identity

doug




On 08/19/2013 03:57 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:

Hi Doug,
that's great, thank you very much.
From the previous posts I assume that this does not solve the
issue with the missing Talairach.xfm. Do you have a
recommendation for that?
Thanks, Caspar


2013/8/19 Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu



I've put that script here


ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/make_average_surface.no-aparc


On 08/19/2013 02:53 PM, Caspar M. Schwiedrzik wrote:
 Hi Freesurfer experts,
 I am trying to make an average surface from several
monkey surfaces,
 and I ran into a problem with make_average_subject.
Specifically, I do
 not have an aparc file nor a talairach.xfm. It seems
that these
 problems have come up on the list before

   
(http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg15595.html).

 I tried to download make_average_surface.no-aparc,
however, the link
 seems to be broken. Also, I couldn't find a solution to
the missing
 talairach.xfm on the list.
 It would be great if you could provide me with a working
link to
 make_average_surface.no-aparc; any suggestions regarding
making an
 average surface without talairach.xfm would be appreciated.
 I already made a new template and aligned all individual
surfaces to
 this template.

 Thanks!
 Caspar



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