Re: [Freesurfer] Computing SA from an older FS version

2015-07-13 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Niels

the matlab commands should be:


[v, M,mr] = load_mgh('wm.mgz') ;
save_mgh(v, 'wm.mgz', M,mr);


cheers
Bruce
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Gerrits, Niels 
wrote:




Dear Bruce,

 

Thanks for the quick reply! I think it might be possible that we used an
unrelased or developmental version of FreeSurfer, because the building-stamp
said: freesurfer-Linux-centos5_86_64_dev-20110315. I’m not sure how this
version ended up onto the server I was working on. Do you think this is a
problem?   

 

With respect to the error: you were right, it was longer. I copied the
command line below:

 

$ mris_anatomical_stats -mgz -cortex label/lh.cortex.label -f
stats/lh.aparc.pial.stats -b -a label/lh.aparc.annot -c
label/aparc.annot.ctab 0007 lh pial
INFO: assuming MGZ format for volumes.
INFO: using label/lh.cortex.label as mask to calc cortex NumVert, SurfArea
and MeanThickness. computing statistics for each annotation in 
label/lh.aparc.annot. reading 
volume/data2/projects/ysbrand-vumc/pddatabase-freesurfer/niels_test//0007/mri/wm. 
mgz... znzTAGskip: tag=825050957, failed to calloc 1969843200 bytes!


 

I then loaded wm.mgh into matlab and then saved it as you suggested and ran
the command again to calculate SA of the pial surface, but it produces the
exact same error…

 

 load.mgh wm.mgz;

 save.mgh wm.mgz;

 

Am I doing anything wrong?

 

Thanks again!

 

Cheers,

Niels

 

-Original Message-
From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
[mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Fischl
Sent: zondag 12 juli 2015 16:44
To: Freesurfer support list
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Computing SA from an older FS version

 

Hi Niels

 

is that the entire error? Does it not say what volume produces the error?

That was a bug we had briefly some time ago, but I didn't think it made it

into anything we released.  If you can track down which volume is causing

this problem you can just load it into matlab with load_mgh.m then save it

with save_mgh.m and the error will go away (since the matlab code doesn't

try to read or write the tagged information). Make sure to save all the

volumes that you do this to somewhere before overwriting them.

 

cheers

Bruce

 

On

Sun, 12 Jul 2015, Gerrits, Niels wrote:

 

 Dear FreeSurfer-experts,



 Unfortunately, nobody replied to my question so this is a repost (see the

 original question below). Could anybody please give some advise on how to

 proceed? The deadline for the revisions is drawing near, so any help is

 greatly appreciated! 



 Best wishes,

 Niels



---

 -



 Dear FreeSurfer-experts,

  

 In 2012 I used a (currently outdated) version of FreeSurfer to analyze my

 data on an external server and wrote an article about our findings. Now
the

 reviewers asked us to recalculate surface area using the pial surface,

 instead of the WM/GM boundary. I found the command on the mailing list to
do

 so, but I got an error, which is probably related to the fact that there
is

 a new version of FreeSurfer installed on the server and that the old
version

 has been deleted.

  

 Command to obtain SA from the pial surface:

  

 mris_anatomical_stats -mgz -cortex label/lh.cortex.label -f

 stats/lh.aparc.pial.stats -b –a label/lh.aparc.annot -c 

 label/aparc.annot.ctab subject lh pial

  

 Error:

  

 znzTAGskip: tag=825050957, failed to alloc 1969843200 bytes!

  

 Cannot allocate memory!

  

 Now I have two questions:

  

 1) When trying to find in which version of FreeSurfer the existing files

 were created, I checked both the build-stamp.txt file and the
recon-all.log

 file, and both say that the version of Freesurfer that was used was

 freesurfer-Linux-centos5_86_64_dev-20110315. Is this an actual version? I

 cannot find anything on the Internet about it. If not, what version could

 this have been? 

  

 2) I understood that running two different versions of FreeSurfer on the

 same data is not favourable. However, the numbers we are looking for are

 already computed and now we only need to get them out of the existing
files.

 Do you have any advice on how to do that?

  

 Running recon-all again using the new version (5.3) does not seem to be an

 option, since manual edits were made during the preprocessing. It is

 therefore likely that we will obtain different results when compared with

 our current findings when running recon-all again using the new version,
and

 we would have to rewrite our entire article.  

  

 Any help is greatly appreciated!

  

 Best wishes,

 Niels Gerrits

  

  

  

  

  



 


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Re: [Freesurfer] Regarding: Brainstem substructures

2015-07-13 Thread Eugenio Iglesias
Hi Sampada,
FS 6.0 is not out yet, but you can download the latest dev version from here:
ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/dev/
Using this version, you can run the brainstem module on subjects that have 
already been processed with 5.3.
Cheers,
Eugenio

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- Original Message -
From: Dr Sampada Sinha drsampadasi...@gmail.com
To: Freesurfer support list freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 6:37:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Regarding: Brainstem substructures




​Thanks so much Bruce for ​your reply. when I open the link for brain stem 
structures ( https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BrainstemSubstructures 
), it says  This functionality is present in FreeSurfer 6.0 and later  . And, 
when I go to the freesurfer download page, the only latest version of 
freesurfer (last updated by Zeke on 2015-06-02) I see is stable v5.3.0. If the 
version 6.0 is out, will you please send me the link so that I can download it? 


Thanks and regards, 


Sampada 


On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Bruce Fischl  fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu  
wrote: 


Hi Sampada 

the brainstem stuff was developed after 5.3 so it is likely not in the 
version you have. Eugenio or Zeke can point you in the right direction. 

cheers 
Bruce 


On Sat, 11 Jul 2015, Dr Sampada Sinha 
wrote: 



 Dear freesurfer experts, 
 
 I am trying to do the brainstem volumetric analysis especially of the 
 medullary 
 region. My recon-all command ran successfully and now when I am trying to run 
 the 
 command ' recon-all -s IMRAN -brainstem-structures' 
 ( https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BrainstemSubstructures ) but, I 
 get the 
 following error: 
 
 
 ERROR: Flag -brainstem-structures unrecognized. 
 -s IMRAN -brainstem-structures 
 Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.32-431.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Nov 22 03:15:09 
 UTC 
 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 
 
 Will you please let me know where I am going wrong? I am using the 
 freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.3.0 
 version for my analysis. 
 
 Thanks for your time! 
 
 Kind regards, 
 
 Sampada 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] Computing SA from an older FS version

2015-07-13 Thread Gerrits, Niels
Dear Bruce,



Thanks for the quick reply! I think it might be possible that we used an 
unrelased or developmental version of FreeSurfer, because the building-stamp 
said: freesurfer-Linux-centos5_86_64_dev-20110315. I'm not sure how this 
version ended up onto the server I was working on. Do you think this is a 
problem?



With respect to the error: you were right, it was longer. I copied the command 
line below:


$ mris_anatomical_stats -mgz -cortex label/lh.cortex.label -f 
stats/lh.aparc.pial.stats -b -a label/lh.aparc.annot -c label/aparc.annot.ctab 
0007 lh pial
INFO: assuming MGZ format for volumes.
INFO: using label/lh.cortex.label as mask to calc cortex NumVert, SurfArea and 
MeanThickness.
computing statistics for each annotation in label/lh.aparc.annot.
reading volume 
/data2/projects/ysbrand-vumc/pddatabase-freesurfer/niels_test//0007/mri/wm.mgz...
znzTAGskip: tag=825050957, failed to calloc 1969843200 bytes!



I then loaded wm.mgh into matlab and then saved it as you suggested and ran the 
command again to calculate SA of the pial surface, but it produces the exact 
same error...



 load.mgh wm.mgz;

 save.mgh wm.mgz;



Am I doing anything wrong?



Thanks again!



Cheers,

Niels



-Original Message-
From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
[mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Fischl
Sent: zondag 12 juli 2015 16:44
To: Freesurfer support list
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Computing SA from an older FS version



Hi Niels



is that the entire error? Does it not say what volume produces the error?

That was a bug we had briefly some time ago, but I didn't think it made it

into anything we released.  If you can track down which volume is causing

this problem you can just load it into matlab with load_mgh.m then save it

with save_mgh.m and the error will go away (since the matlab code doesn't

try to read or write the tagged information). Make sure to save all the

volumes that you do this to somewhere before overwriting them.



cheers

Bruce



On

Sun, 12 Jul 2015, Gerrits, Niels wrote:



 Dear FreeSurfer-experts,



 Unfortunately, nobody replied to my question so this is a repost (see the

 original question below). Could anybody please give some advise on how to

 proceed? The deadline for the revisions is drawing near, so any help is

 greatly appreciated!



 Best wishes,

 Niels



 ---

 -



 Dear FreeSurfer-experts,



 In 2012 I used a (currently outdated) version of FreeSurfer to analyze my

 data on an external server and wrote an article about our findings. Now the

 reviewers asked us to recalculate surface area using the pial surface,

 instead of the WM/GM boundary. I found the command on the mailing list to do

 so, but I got an error, which is probably related to the fact that there is

 a new version of FreeSurfer installed on the server and that the old version

 has been deleted.



 Command to obtain SA from the pial surface:



 mris_anatomical_stats -mgz -cortex label/lh.cortex.label -f

 stats/lh.aparc.pial.stats -b -a label/lh.aparc.annot -c

 label/aparc.annot.ctab subject lh pial



 Error:



 znzTAGskip: tag=825050957, failed to alloc 1969843200 bytes!



 Cannot allocate memory!



 Now I have two questions:



 1) When trying to find in which version of FreeSurfer the existing files

 were created, I checked both the build-stamp.txt file and the recon-all.log

 file, and both say that the version of Freesurfer that was used was

 freesurfer-Linux-centos5_86_64_dev-20110315. Is this an actual version? I

 cannot find anything on the Internet about it. If not, what version could

 this have been?



 2) I understood that running two different versions of FreeSurfer on the

 same data is not favourable. However, the numbers we are looking for are

 already computed and now we only need to get them out of the existing files.

 Do you have any advice on how to do that?



 Running recon-all again using the new version (5.3) does not seem to be an

 option, since manual edits were made during the preprocessing. It is

 therefore likely that we will obtain different results when compared with

 our current findings when running recon-all again using the new version, and

 we would have to rewrite our entire article.



 Any help is greatly appreciated!



 Best wishes,

 Niels Gerrits














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Re: [Freesurfer] FS Developer v6 Hippocampal Segmentation

2015-07-13 Thread angela . favaro
Hi Eugenio,
I have a question about hippocampal segmentation. Do you think it is
possible to use this segmentation to obtain specific seeds for a
functional connectivity study?

thank you
Angela


 Sorry, I forgot to mention that you should change the permissions of the
files. Please run the following command:
 chmod u+x $FREESURFER_HOME/bin/run_segmentSubject*.sh
 Cheers,
 Eugenio

 Juan Eugenio Iglesias
 Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
 www.jeiglesias.com
 www.bcbl.eu

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 - Original Message -
 From: angela favaro angela.fav...@unipd.it
 To: Freesurfer support list freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 1:07:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] FS Developer v6 Hippocampal Segmentation

 Thank you Eugenio, but the problem is still present (attached the log).
Thank you for any help!
 Angela

 #@# Hippocampal Subfields processing (T1 only) left Wed Jul  1 13:04:47
CEST 2015
 \n /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/bin/segmentSF_T1.sh
/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/MCRv80
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer subj001
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/subjects left \n
 See log file:
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/subjects/subj001/scripts/hippocampal-subfields-T1.log
/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/bin/run_segmentSubjectT1_autoEstimateAlveusML.sh:
Permission denied.
 #
 #@# Hippocampal Subfields processing (T1 only) right Wed Jul  1 13:04:47
CEST 2015
 \n /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/bin/segmentSF_T1.sh
/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/MCRv80
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer subj001
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/subjects right \n
 See log file:
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/subjects/subj001/scripts/hippocampal-subfields-T1.log
/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/bin/run_segmentSubjectT1_autoEstimateAlveusML.sh:
Permission denied.

 #--

 Started at Wed Jul 1 13:04:45 CEST 2015
 Ended   at Wed Jul 1 13:04:47 CEST 2015
 #@#%# recon-all-run-time-hours 0.001
 recon-all -s subj001 finished without error at Wed Jul  1 13:04:47 CEST
2015












 Hi Angela,
 I think this is a problem I fixed in the development version a couple
of days ago. Can you please just try saving the attached 3 files in the
directory $FREESURFER_HOME/bin/  replacing the ones that are there?
Cheers,
 Eugenio

 Juan Eugenio Iglesias
 Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
 www.jeiglesias.com
 www.bcbl.eu

 Legal disclaimer/Aviso legal/Lege-oharra: www.bcbl.eu/legal-disclaimer


 - Original Message -
 From: angela favaro angela.fav...@unipd.it
 To: Freesurfer support list freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:42:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] FS Developer v6 Hippocampal Segmentation

 Hi all,

 I have tried to run the new hippocampal segmentation module (after running
 the dev version of FS 6. The module did not work and this message error
appears (please find attached the log).

 DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH is
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/lib/gcc/lib:.:/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/MCRv80/runtime/maci64:/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/MCRv80/bin/maci64:/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/MCRv80/sys/os/maci64
Warning: application is running on a locale different from the original
platform locale.

 is it due to something wrong in my path specification? how can I solve
this?
 thank you!

 Angela


 Hi Noah,
 I cannot provide you with an unbiased opinion of the new subfield module,
 but something you can do is to download the development version and
run the subfield code on data processed with FS 5.3 (assuming you have
some),
 in order to get an idea of what the segmentations look like.
 Cheers,
 Eugenio

 Juan Eugenio Iglesias
 Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
 www.jeiglesias.com
 www.bcbl.eu

 Legal disclaimer/Aviso legal/Lege-oharra: www.bcbl.eu/legal-disclaimer


 - Original Message -
 From: Noah Markowitz noahb.markow...@gmail.com
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:03:28 AM
 Subject: [Freesurfer] FS Developer v6 Hippocampal Segmentation

 Hello,

 We’re going to be rerunning FS Recon-all using the newest version of
FS v6
 developer’s edition. Before any data is pre-processed, we wanted to
receive input from other users on their own experience using it,
specifically the Hippocampal subfield segmentation protocol. Are
people receiving any unusual errors? Is there a lower resolution or
less accurate
 segmentation of other cortical or subcortical structures? Any input would
 be great.

 Cheers,

 Noah Markowitz
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Re: [Freesurfer] FS Developer v6 Hippocampal Segmentation

2015-07-13 Thread Eugenio Iglesias
Hi Angela,
Of course it is! I'd be thrilled to see what you get out of your analyses; 
please keep me posted.
Cheers,
/Eugenio

Juan Eugenio Iglesias
Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
www.jeiglesias.com
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- Original Message -
From: angela favaro angela.fav...@unipd.it
To: Freesurfer support list freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 11:21:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] FS Developer v6 Hippocampal Segmentation

Hi Eugenio,
I have a question about hippocampal segmentation. Do you think it is
possible to use this segmentation to obtain specific seeds for a
functional connectivity study?

thank you
Angela


 Sorry, I forgot to mention that you should change the permissions of the
files. Please run the following command:
 chmod u+x $FREESURFER_HOME/bin/run_segmentSubject*.sh
 Cheers,
 Eugenio

 Juan Eugenio Iglesias
 Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
 www.jeiglesias.com
 www.bcbl.eu

 Legal disclaimer/Aviso legal/Lege-oharra: www.bcbl.eu/legal-disclaimer


 - Original Message -
 From: angela favaro angela.fav...@unipd.it
 To: Freesurfer support list freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 1:07:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] FS Developer v6 Hippocampal Segmentation

 Thank you Eugenio, but the problem is still present (attached the log).
Thank you for any help!
 Angela

 #@# Hippocampal Subfields processing (T1 only) left Wed Jul  1 13:04:47
CEST 2015
 \n /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/bin/segmentSF_T1.sh
/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/MCRv80
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer subj001
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/subjects left \n
 See log file:
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/subjects/subj001/scripts/hippocampal-subfields-T1.log
/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/bin/run_segmentSubjectT1_autoEstimateAlveusML.sh:
Permission denied.
 #
 #@# Hippocampal Subfields processing (T1 only) right Wed Jul  1 13:04:47
CEST 2015
 \n /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/bin/segmentSF_T1.sh
/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/MCRv80
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer subj001
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/subjects right \n
 See log file:
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/subjects/subj001/scripts/hippocampal-subfields-T1.log
/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/bin/run_segmentSubjectT1_autoEstimateAlveusML.sh:
Permission denied.

 #--

 Started at Wed Jul 1 13:04:45 CEST 2015
 Ended   at Wed Jul 1 13:04:47 CEST 2015
 #@#%# recon-all-run-time-hours 0.001
 recon-all -s subj001 finished without error at Wed Jul  1 13:04:47 CEST
2015












 Hi Angela,
 I think this is a problem I fixed in the development version a couple
of days ago. Can you please just try saving the attached 3 files in the
directory $FREESURFER_HOME/bin/  replacing the ones that are there?
Cheers,
 Eugenio

 Juan Eugenio Iglesias
 Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
 www.jeiglesias.com
 www.bcbl.eu

 Legal disclaimer/Aviso legal/Lege-oharra: www.bcbl.eu/legal-disclaimer


 - Original Message -
 From: angela favaro angela.fav...@unipd.it
 To: Freesurfer support list freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:42:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] FS Developer v6 Hippocampal Segmentation

 Hi all,

 I have tried to run the new hippocampal segmentation module (after running
 the dev version of FS 6. The module did not work and this message error
appears (please find attached the log).

 DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH is
 /Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/lib/gcc/lib:.:/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/MCRv80/runtime/maci64:/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/MCRv80/bin/maci64:/Users/angelafavaro/Desktop/prova/freesurfer/MCRv80/sys/os/maci64
Warning: application is running on a locale different from the original
platform locale.

 is it due to something wrong in my path specification? how can I solve
this?
 thank you!

 Angela


 Hi Noah,
 I cannot provide you with an unbiased opinion of the new subfield module,
 but something you can do is to download the development version and
run the subfield code on data processed with FS 5.3 (assuming you have
some),
 in order to get an idea of what the segmentations look like.
 Cheers,
 Eugenio

 Juan Eugenio Iglesias
 Postdoctoral researcher BCBL
 www.jeiglesias.com
 www.bcbl.eu

 Legal disclaimer/Aviso legal/Lege-oharra: www.bcbl.eu/legal-disclaimer


 - Original Message -
 From: Noah Markowitz noahb.markow...@gmail.com
 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:03:28 AM
 Subject: [Freesurfer] FS Developer v6 Hippocampal Segmentation

 Hello,

 We’re going to be rerunning FS Recon-all using the newest version of
FS v6
 developer’s edition. Before any data is pre-processed, we wanted to
receive input from other users on their own 

Re: [Freesurfer] cortical reconstruction problem

2015-07-13 Thread Mohamed Ali Bahri
Hi Bruce,

Many thanks for your answer.

Best,

Mohamed

On 10/07/15 15:29, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 Hi Mohamed

 what you are showing is *not* the cortical reconstruction, but rather the
 whole-brain segmentation/aseg. Have you looked at the ?h.white and ?h.pial
 surfaces? We use them for cortical modeling as they are frequently more
 accurate than the aseg.

 cheers
 Bruce

 On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, Mohamed Ali Bahri wrote:

 Dear Experts,

 Cortical reconstruction (mri-segmentation) does not work well for some of my
 subjects. The segmentation missed a part of the GM  (see attached figure). I
 am wandering if the expert options could help. Any suggestions/comments
 will be very welcome.

 Many thanks in advance,

 Mohamed


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Re: [Freesurfer] Computing SA from an older FS version

2015-07-13 Thread Gerrits, Niels
Hi Bruce,



Thank you so much and I'm sorry for the newbie question(s). It's working now!



Cheers,

Niels





-Original Message-
From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
[mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Fischl
Sent: maandag 13 juli 2015 14:46
To: Freesurfer support list
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Computing SA from an older FS version



Hi Niels



the matlab commands should be:



 [v, M,mr] = load_mgh('wm.mgz') ;

 save_mgh(v, 'wm.mgz', M,mr);



cheers

Bruce

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Gerrits, Niels

wrote:





 Dear Bruce,







 Thanks for the quick reply! I think it might be possible that we used an

 unrelased or developmental version of FreeSurfer, because the building-stamp

 said: freesurfer-Linux-centos5_86_64_dev-20110315. I'm not sure how this

 version ended up onto the server I was working on. Do you think this is a

 problem?







 With respect to the error: you were right, it was longer. I copied the

 command line below:







 $ mris_anatomical_stats -mgz -cortex label/lh.cortex.label -f

 stats/lh.aparc.pial.stats -b -a label/lh.aparc.annot -c

 label/aparc.annot.ctab 0007 lh pial

 INFO: assuming MGZ format for volumes.

 INFO: using label/lh.cortex.label as mask to calc cortex NumVert, SurfArea

 and MeanThickness. computing statistics for each annotation in

 label/lh.aparc.annot. reading

 volume/data2/projects/ysbrand-vumc/pddatabase-freesurfer/niels_test//0007/mri/wm.

 mgz... znzTAGskip: tag=825050957, failed to calloc 1969843200 bytes!







 I then loaded wm.mgh into matlab and then saved it as you suggested and ran

 the command again to calculate SA of the pial surface, but it produces the

 exact same error...







  load.mgh wm.mgz;



  save.mgh wm.mgz;







 Am I doing anything wrong?







 Thanks again!







 Cheers,



 Niels







 -Original Message-

 From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

 [mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Fischl

 Sent: zondag 12 juli 2015 16:44

 To: Freesurfer support list

 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Computing SA from an older FS version







 Hi Niels







 is that the entire error? Does it not say what volume produces the error?



 That was a bug we had briefly some time ago, but I didn't think it made it



 into anything we released.  If you can track down which volume is causing



 this problem you can just load it into matlab with load_mgh.m then save it



 with save_mgh.m and the error will go away (since the matlab code doesn't



 try to read or write the tagged information). Make sure to save all the



 volumes that you do this to somewhere before overwriting them.







 cheers



 Bruce







 On



 Sun, 12 Jul 2015, Gerrits, Niels wrote:







  Dear FreeSurfer-experts,



 



  Unfortunately, nobody replied to my question so this is a repost (see the



  original question below). Could anybody please give some advise on how to



  proceed? The deadline for the revisions is drawing near, so any help is



  greatly appreciated!



 



  Best wishes,



  Niels



 



 ---



  -



 



  Dear FreeSurfer-experts,



 



  In 2012 I used a (currently outdated) version of FreeSurfer to analyze my



  data on an external server and wrote an article about our findings. Now

 the



  reviewers asked us to recalculate surface area using the pial surface,



  instead of the WM/GM boundary. I found the command on the mailing list to

 do



  so, but I got an error, which is probably related to the fact that there

 is



  a new version of FreeSurfer installed on the server and that the old

 version



  has been deleted.



 



  Command to obtain SA from the pial surface:



 



  mris_anatomical_stats -mgz -cortex label/lh.cortex.label -f



  stats/lh.aparc.pial.stats -b -a label/lh.aparc.annot -c



  label/aparc.annot.ctab subject lh pial



 



  Error:



 



  znzTAGskip: tag=825050957, failed to alloc 1969843200 bytes!



 



  Cannot allocate memory!



 



  Now I have two questions:



 



  1) When trying to find in which version of FreeSurfer the existing files



  were created, I checked both the build-stamp.txt file and the

 recon-all.log



  file, and both say that the version of Freesurfer that was used was



  freesurfer-Linux-centos5_86_64_dev-20110315. Is this an actual version? I



  cannot find anything on the Internet about it. If not, what version could



  this have been?



 



  2) I understood that running two different versions of FreeSurfer on the



  same data is not favourable. However, the numbers we are looking for are



  already computed and now we only need to get them out of the existing

 files.



  Do you have any advice on how to do that?



 



  Running recon-all again using the new version (5.3) does not seem to be an



  option, 

Re: [Freesurfer] Computing SA from an older FS version

2015-07-13 Thread Bruce Fischl

no worries, glad to hear we sorted it out
Bruce
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Gerrits, 
Niels wrote:




Hi Bruce,

 

Thank you so much and I’m sorry for the newbie question(s). It’s working
now!

 

Cheers,

Niels

 

 

-Original Message-
From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
[mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Fischl
Sent: maandag 13 juli 2015 14:46
To: Freesurfer support list
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Computing SA from an older FS version

 

Hi Niels

 

the matlab commands should be:

 

 [v, M,mr] = load_mgh('wm.mgz') ;

 save_mgh(v, 'wm.mgz', M,mr);

 

cheers

Bruce

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Gerrits, Niels

wrote:

 



 Dear Bruce,



  



 Thanks for the quick reply! I think it might be possible that we used an

 unrelased or developmental version of FreeSurfer, because the
building-stamp

 said: freesurfer-Linux-centos5_86_64_dev-20110315. I’m not sure how this

 version ended up onto the server I was working on. Do you think this is a

 problem?   



  



 With respect to the error: you were right, it was longer. I copied the

 command line below:



  



 $ mris_anatomical_stats -mgz -cortex label/lh.cortex.label -f

 stats/lh.aparc.pial.stats -b -a label/lh.aparc.annot -c

 label/aparc.annot.ctab 0007 lh pial

 INFO: assuming MGZ format for volumes.

 INFO: using label/lh.cortex.label as mask to calc cortex NumVert, SurfArea

 and MeanThickness. computing statistics for each annotation in

 label/lh.aparc.annot. reading

volume/data2/projects/ysbrand-vumc/pddatabase-freesurfer/niels_test//0007/m
ri/wm.

 mgz... znzTAGskip: tag=825050957, failed to calloc 1969843200 bytes!



  



 I then loaded wm.mgh into matlab and then saved it as you suggested and
ran

 the command again to calculate SA of the pial surface, but it produces the

 exact same error…



  



  load.mgh wm.mgz;



  save.mgh wm.mgz;



  



 Am I doing anything wrong?



  



 Thanks again!



  



 Cheers,



 Niels



  



 -Original Message-

 From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

 [mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Fischl

 Sent: zondag 12 juli 2015 16:44

 To: Freesurfer support list

 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Computing SA from an older FS version



  



 Hi Niels



  



 is that the entire error? Does it not say what volume produces the error?



 That was a bug we had briefly some time ago, but I didn't think it made it



 into anything we released.  If you can track down which volume is causing



 this problem you can just load it into matlab with load_mgh.m then save it



 with save_mgh.m and the error will go away (since the matlab code doesn't



 try to read or write the tagged information). Make sure to save all the



 volumes that you do this to somewhere before overwriting them.



  



 cheers



 Bruce



  



 On



 Sun, 12 Jul 2015, Gerrits, Niels wrote:



  



  Dear FreeSurfer-experts,



 



  Unfortunately, nobody replied to my question so this is a repost (see
the



  original question below). Could anybody please give some advise on how
to



  proceed? The deadline for the revisions is drawing near, so any help is



  greatly appreciated! 



 



  Best wishes,



  Niels



 



--
-



  -



 



  Dear FreeSurfer-experts,



   



  In 2012 I used a (currently outdated) version of FreeSurfer to analyze
my



  data on an external server and wrote an article about our findings. Now

 the



  reviewers asked us to recalculate surface area using the pial surface,



  instead of the WM/GM boundary. I found the command on the mailing list
to

 do



  so, but I got an error, which is probably related to the fact that there

 is



  a new version of FreeSurfer installed on the server and that the old

 version



  has been deleted.



   



  Command to obtain SA from the pial surface:



   



  mris_anatomical_stats -mgz -cortex label/lh.cortex.label -f



  stats/lh.aparc.pial.stats -b –a label/lh.aparc.annot -c 



  label/aparc.annot.ctab subject lh pial



   



  Error:



   



  znzTAGskip: tag=825050957, failed to alloc 1969843200 bytes!



   



  Cannot allocate memory!



   



  Now I have two questions:



   



  1) When trying to find in which version of FreeSurfer the existing files



  were created, I checked both the build-stamp.txt file and the

 recon-all.log



  file, and both say that the version of Freesurfer that was used was



  freesurfer-Linux-centos5_86_64_dev-20110315. Is this an actual version?
I



  cannot find anything on the Internet about it. If not, what version
could



  this have been? 



   



  2) I understood that running two different versions of FreeSurfer on the



  same data is not favourable. However, the numbers we are looking for are



  already computed and now we only need to get them out of the existing

 

[Freesurfer] Tracula - set echo spacing

2015-07-13 Thread Celine Louapre
Hi Anastasia and Tracula experts,
We are running a new set of tracula analysis from Bay 6 and are
wondering how do we define the number of echo spacing in the dmrirc
file. Is it a number that we get from the header of the field map
dicoms?

set echospacing = ...

Thanks a lot
Celine
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Research Fellow at Massachusetts General Hospital

Multiple Sclerosis Imaging Lab
AA Martinos Center for Biomedical Imaging
Department of Radiology, MGH
Building 149, Room 2301
13th Street
Charlestown, MA  02129, USA

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[Freesurfer] Hippocampal sufields in MNI templates

2015-07-13 Thread lorenzo pasquini
Dear freesurfer users,I was wondering: is there any way to get normalized ROIs 
for hippocampal subfields in MNI space? Is anything speaking against for 
example, running freesurfer with subcortical segmentation on an MNI template? 
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_tessellate: max vertices 1000000 exceeded

2015-07-13 Thread zkaufman
Hello,

Here is a download link to the most recent version of mri_tessellate:

ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu//pub/dist/freesurfer/dev_binaries/centos6_x86_64/mri_tessellate

Please place the new version in your $FREESURFER_HOME/bin directory, and
backup the original. Hope this helps.

-Zeke


 FREESURFER_HOME: /usr/local/freesurfer/stable5_3
 Build stamp: freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.3.0
 Debian version: 7.6
 Kernel info: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 x86_64

 I think the info was at the end of the original email, as per
 instructions.

 I'm guessing it was just hidden, but let me know if there's any other info
 you need?

 Thanks!
 Ione


 -Original Message-
 From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 [mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Bruce Fischl
 Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 3:01 PM
 To: ionef...@uw.edu; Freesurfer support list
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] mri_tessellate: max vertices 100 exceeded

 Hi Iona

 if you tell us what your hardware/software environment is we'll get you a
 newer version.

 cheers
 Bruce
 On Sat, 11 Jul 2015, Ione Fine wrote:


 Hi,

 I am running to an error analyzing a 0.5 mm resolution T1 structural
 with the following with the following:

 recon-all -maskbfs -segmentation -fill -tessellate -s $SUBJECT

  

 the issue seems to be:

 mri_tessellate: max vertices 100 exceeded

  

 There?s apparently a version of mri_tesselate which is easier going
 about the number of vertices, but the link to it is broken.

 https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail/freesurfer/2014-August/0400
 01.html

  

 Thanks

 Ione

  

 System information:

  

 FREESURFER_HOME: /usr/local/freesurfer/stable5_3

 Build stamp: freesurfer-Linux-centos6_x86_64-stable-pub-v5.3.0

 Debian version: 7.6

 Kernel info: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 x86_64

  

  

  

  

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 University of Washington

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[Freesurfer] Fwd: [FreeSurfer] aparc+aseg.mgz unkown voxels

2015-07-13 Thread joseph veliz
Hello,

Just checking if this email thread was still being tracked.

Thanks so much

Joseph
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From: joseph veliz josephveli...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] [FreeSurfer] aparc+aseg.mgz unkown voxels
To: Freesurfer support list freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu


I have updated our macbook 10.9 with the latest freesurfer from;

ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/dev/freesurfer-Darwin-lion-dev.tar.gz


The same results are produced; ' unknown voxels ' on the aparc+aseg.mgz.

I am not sure how to proceed, are there any suggestions?

thank you so much

joseph




On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 12:45 PM, joseph veliz josephveli...@gmail.com
wrote:

 We have quite a large data set we have processed in this study on v5.1.0
 and have been previously advised to not switch versions in-between
 processing data sets.

 I do have a macbook pro running v5.3, I will attempt to recon on this
 subject.

 But are there any other options on v5.1?

 Why is it that voxels in aparc+aseg.mgz can not just be filled in with
 corresponding color from the lut?



 On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Douglas N Greve gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
  wrote:

 I think that might have been fixed in 5.3. Can you try 5.3 on that one
 subject to see? Thanks for the kudos.
 doug

 On 07/01/2015 08:23 PM, joseph veliz wrote:
  leopard i686 stable pub v5.1.0
 
  As an aside I watched your introductory videos and found you to be
  very knowledgeable, well-spoken and very helpful in understanding some
  of the amazing things you guys are doing for analysis. Really cool to
  be emailing you and getting help from the pros.
 
  Thanks
 
  Joe
 
  On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Bruce Fischl
  fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 
  Hi Joe
 
  what FS version are you using? That certainly looks like a bug,
  but maybe
  it's one we've fixed already?
 
  Bruce
 
 
  On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, joseph veliz wrote:
 
   Hello Freesrufers,
  
   There are voxels in random areas of the aparc+aseg.mgz that are
  categorized
   as 'unknown'.
  
   I read an earlier email stating that aparc+aseg.mgz should not
  be directly
   edited by filling in voxels. Correct?
  
   A specific example of this is shown on the attatched images.
  
   aseg.mgz categorizes this area as cortex, yet the aparc+aseg.mgz
  does not
   even though it is within pial boundary and is adjacent to other
   (categorized) cortical and sub cortical regions.
  
   How could we go about correcting this?
  
   Thank so much
  
   Joe
  
  
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[Freesurfer] R: Re: Import mask from FSL to FS for performing seed-based FS-FAST functional connectivity

2015-07-13 Thread stdp82
Hi list,
When I use tkmedit the overlap between orig and ROI_MASK.nii.gz seem to 
correspond. However, when I added the ROI_MASK.nii.gz, the orig is vanished, 
and is remained the ROI_MASK in correct position (and in white) and around all 
black. My concern is the correct binarization of ROI_MASK which it seem correct 
when I use fslview.fslview orig.nii.gz ROI_MASK.nii.gz produce perfect outputs.

After mri_label2vol --seg $SUBJECTS_DIR/ROI_MASK.nii.gz --reg 
$FUNCTIONAL_DATA/Sess102/rest/001/register.dof6.dat --temp 
$FUNCTIONAL_DATA/Sess102/rest/001/template.nii.gz --fillthresh 0.5 --o 
func.vmPFC_MASK.nii
The func.vmPFC_MASK.nii (344MB) seem to be empty when I open it with tkmedit 
and too big (a red bar which cover the whole) when I use fslview.With MRIcron, 
is screen is irregularly divided in half in black and white.
Which should be the advised folder for  func.vmPFC_MASK.nii?

Thank you very much

Stefano


Messaggio originale
Da: gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Data: 30-giu-2015 0.36
A: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Ogg: Re: [Freesurfer] Import mask from FSL to FS for performing seed-based 
FS-FAST functional connectivity

Hi Stefano, sorry for the delay, I was traveling. It sounds like you 
just need to run fcseed-config and specify -seg ROI_MASK.mgz and -segid 
1 (assuming your ROI_MASK is in $SUBJECTS_DIR/subject/mri). If the mask 
is in the orig.mgz space, then everything should work ok, but you can 
look at it with

tkmedit -f orig.mgz -aux ROI_MASK.mgz

You can also run

mri_label2vol --seg $SUBJECTS_DIR/subject/mri/ROI_MASK.mgz --reg 
register.dof6.dat --temp template.nii.gz --fillthresh 0.5 --o 
func.ROI_MASK.nii

where template.nii.gz  and register.dof6.dat are in the functional run 
folder
doug


On 06/12/2015 04:39 PM, std...@virgilio.it wrote:
 Hi list,
 I working on the combination of MRS and FS-FAST analysis.
 I have extracted the grey matter within voxel (I will call it 
 ROI_MASK) by using FSL tools and now it is in the same space of 
 orig.mgz (the roi mask is perfectly overlapped on orig.nii.gz when I 
 use fslview).

 I'd like to import it to FS for performing seed-based FS-FAST 
 functional connectivity.
 The seed should the ROI MASK (GM within voxel).

 I know that the FSL and FS operate in different space and orientation.
 I think to have resolved the problem of different space by using 
 orig.nii.gz to create ROI mask by FSL.
 However, I'm strongly worried for orientation issues.
 I have read the guidelines in FSL and FS sites, but I'm quite confused.
 In detail, I'd like to ask whether I should use mri_cor2label to 
 transform ROI mask created by FSL to label.

 Furthmore, I'd like to be sure of the position of the ROI. How can I 
 visualize it to be sure that the seed of my FS-FAST analysis is 
 effectively the my ROI_MASK?

 I hope in your help.

 Thanks in advanced.


 Stefano


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