Re: [FRIAM] Games!
I played 2 of those games on the first list, 3rd World Farmer and Stop Disasters. They were actually pretty entertaining. 3rd world farmer is like Oregon trail. You think everything is going fine until someone in your family gets the measles and your shed burns with your chickens inside, ughh. It will take a long time to get through that list. Marcos Lopez says eve-online is spread sheets in space. Maybe i'll pass on that one. Cody Smith On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Curt McNamara curt...@gmail.com wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_for_Change On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Curt McNamara curt...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.onlinecolleges.net/50-great-sites-for-serious-educational-games/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/danieltack/2013/09/12/serious-games-and-the-future-of-education/ Curt On Jul 7, 2015 12:38 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote: @Cody As to video games, I submit they're somewhat useful or at least can be depending on what you consider useful of course. SimCity (for example), EverQuest(was is/was) believe it or not used in Leadership, and Project Management courses-basicly build a city and what do you do when something goes wrong. if I recall someone years ago from someone Orion Games talked at the Complex showing real world examples of fire-fighters, and pilots used Flight sims to help with training. World of Warcraft and other Massive Online Sims (or MMO/ MMORPG/ MMOAs) are often used as part of humanistic design resliance studies, leadership studies as well because you are in a group. How do you have to take criticism. How do you handle it? Can you get a group together? etc. I am unclear how useful those life skills are, but leadership skills and someway to be somewhat self reliant and managing tasks is likely at least somewhat useful in day-to-day life. On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Marcus Daniels mar...@snoutfarm.com wrote: Yup, one of the arguments in the list of reasons-gaming-is-good TED talks was that they can be engaging as an educational tool. But you're clearly just trying to horrify me now.:-) -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:53 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] DOH! Heh, as if the argument weren't absurd enough already, there's this: Is Facebook the next frontier for online learning? http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2015/is-facebook-the-next-frontier-for-online-learning/ I try to avoid facebook, despite my omnivorism. But when in Rome... -- ⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella I got my face in the furnace, I got my snake in a sleeve FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [alife] Conference Announcement - Re-conceptualizing the Origin of Life, Abstract deadline is Aug. 1st
Speaking of ALife, will anyone else be at ECAL next week? On 07/16/2015 03:50 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Sara Walker srw...@gmail.com mailto:srw...@gmail.com Date: Jul 16, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: [alife] Conference Announcement - Re-conceptualizing the Origin of Life, Abstract deadline is Aug. 1st To: alife-annou...@lists.idyll.org mailto:alife-annou...@lists.idyll.org Cc: *Upcoming Conference on* *“Re-conceptualizing the Origin of Life”* *Nov. 9-13th, 2015 at Carnegie Institution of Washington, Washington D.C.* -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-255-2847, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] a week on just linux...
Not a bash on Windows! History: I've used linux in the past, and decided to experiment because my desktop a Dell has some kind of Gremlin on the windows side that causes it to reboot on it's own. Being concerned it's a hardware problem first hit control-delete to see if anything stood out, cache files, or to many apps running in the background etc. Only thing that stood out that I could tell was with nothing running and it just idle it'd creap up from about 30% ram used to about 40% Mixed in firefox because I like the session save and restore addon it'd hover around 40% and my games would easly push it to about 55-60% used. By used in the pased I meen KDE 2.0 I think it was when I'd start my fun box I'd get a mysterius line that said username@bash(or somesuch) and to get to xorg typed in start x, and flash didn't play with I think it was Mandrake (no idea what number) Why: Why not? Plus it be useful to see if it has a buried gremlin. Results: I had Ubuntu 1405 Trusty I think it is. Sufficed to say Ubuntu is growing on me, and after about 4-5 days of doing my routine things mostly works. *yeah* Just to see if it's a hardware issue decided to spin up chromium, then Chrome with random google searches ,and tossed in a bunch of tabs in firefox, and my old ooold del from 07 or so. No crash, no bluescreen. *yeeeah* Questions: I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps out*yeeeah* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...
I believe the pair of extensions that are AdBlock / AdBlockPlus are designed to be cross-browser, and are in the Chrome Web Store. I seem to get by with just FlashControl (which is immaterial because I do not have the Flash .so anyway since it is nonfree), but I have also heard good things about NoScript. Good luck and have fun on your GNU/Linux box! -Arlo James Barnes *PostScript*: Laughed when I saw not a bash on Windows - true unless you got Cygwin working!. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] speculative Q
On 07/15/2015 08:08 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: If one wants a tool to do a job, why would that person have more opinions about tools not in that category?They just want that kind of tool. If FOO and BAR are competing, then it is different because BAR is like non-FOO. But that's not about being opinionated, that's about protecting an investment. FOO and BAR don't need to represent an ideology, just some random goal that for whatever reason the supporters happen to grow a community around. Well, we had been talking about community for community's sake. If we assume that the 2 categories (community purely for mission vs. community for the sake of community) are not disjoint and that there's a spectrum between them, then it's relatively easy to see how a given community, if large enough, will contain a mix of ideology and practice. In other words, we can assume everyone has at least a little ideology, even if it only manifests as slight preferences (like vi over emacs). If FOO and BAR represent ideologies, cohesion can help. For example, I would always choose to work on GPLed software rather than not if my intent is to make it free. In practice, that would typically mean to add-value to someone else's tool. My selection criteria is the philosophy behind the GPL, not the details of the tool itself (provided the tool is technically adequate). I know other people that can't imagine adding value to another person's tool. While they might give their work away, they would do it for promotional or egotistical reasons. They don't have this community's ideology. But, again, you're being very binary. Practically, each member will be a member in part because they're aligned ideologically, in part because they contribute to the mission, and in part for promotional/egotistical reasons. Those sets aren't disjoint, regardless of what the participants think about themselves. If FOO and BAR represent different kinds of strong technical preferences then that could explain why cooperation around multi-aspect software is harder. There's too much to fight about. But then consider loose cooperative efforts like Hackage, or CTAN, CPAN, CRAN, etc. each representing millions of lines of code. To say these aren't multi-aspect is absurd. They are very, very high dimensional, interdependent, and open-ended. Yes, but it would be a stretch to think of things like CPAN as user-facing tools. They are more middle-ware or back-end. At best, you can only think of the front-end script that accesses the databases as the front-end part. And that's certainly not multi-aspect. That /usr/bin/cpan script has a very narrow focus in handling the packages. These collective efforts are more like federations than applications. And federations are methodological approaches to handling large sets of opinionated members ... like the EU or the US. They are explicitly _designed_ to handle the extremists and their _splat_ of opinions on everything under the sun, because they allow even the extremists a way to focus in on the minimal agreement required to cooperate. So, collectives like Hackage et al don't bolster your argument, they refute it. They're examples that the members with loud opinions on one thing are likely to have loud opinions on other things. Hence, a federation is needed to help them minimize the amount of agreement required to cooperate. So I'll return to the view that proprietary mainstream user-facing software holds its place not because it is multi-aspect, but because its aspects are well understood and curated (and as Roger points out the marketing and product development are intertwined). Emacs is user facing but in contrast users come to appreciate Emacs rather than Emacs coming to appreciate (pander to) its users.Emacs is what its developer base wants it to be and everyone else can get lost. Programs like LibreOffice or maybe Eclipse do bolster your argument, I think. I don't know about Emacs. It's a strange beast that I think has survived for reasons other than coherence around a mission. But I'm certainly willing to be wrong, there. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] speculative Q
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 08:10:09PM -0700, glen wrote: Programs like LibreOffice or maybe Eclipse do bolster your argument, I think. I don't know about Emacs. It's a strange beast that I think has survived for reasons other than coherence around a mission. But I'm certainly willing to be wrong, there. I do know about emacs. It survives, because it is bloody good at being a text editor, particular for programming. I suppose vi is the same - I've seen some people make vi stand up and sing, but for me, its behaviour when interacting with vt100 style terminals has always put me off. Cheers -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...
Windows 10 is not available for another month! But having said that, I have been playing around with Windows 10 (pre-release version given to beta-testers) in a virtual machine, and my initial impressions is that it is Windows 8 done right. It shouldn't be too much of a stretch from Windows 7. Mind you, I'm not doing too much in Windows these days - I'm primarily a Linux user (OpenSUSE, with fvwm2 as a desktop), and that doesn't look like changing any time soon. Next year will be the 20th year of using the same window manager (desktop UI), and I've yet to see anything superior for my purposes (out of KDE/Gnome/Windows XP,7,8,10/MacOSX Aqua...). Cheers Cheers On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 04:22:40PM -0600, Frank Wimberly wrote: Speaking of Windows, a button has recently appeared on my Windows 7 machine which appears to download and install Windows 10. Any recommendations? Frank Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Phone (505) 670-9918 On Jul 17, 2015 1:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote: Not a bash on Windows! History: I've used linux in the past, and decided to experiment because my desktop a Dell has some kind of Gremlin on the windows side that causes it to reboot on it's own. Being concerned it's a hardware problem first hit control-delete to see if anything stood out, cache files, or to many apps running in the background etc. Only thing that stood out that I could tell was with nothing running and it just idle it'd creap up from about 30% ram used to about 40% Mixed in firefox because I like the session save and restore addon it'd hover around 40% and my games would easly push it to about 55-60% used. By used in the pased I meen KDE 2.0 I think it was when I'd start my fun box I'd get a mysterius line that said username@bash(or somesuch) and to get to xorg typed in start x, and flash didn't play with I think it was Mandrake (no idea what number) Why: Why not? Plus it be useful to see if it has a buried gremlin. Results: I had Ubuntu 1405 Trusty I think it is. Sufficed to say Ubuntu is growing on me, and after about 4-5 days of doing my routine things mostly works. *yeah* Just to see if it's a hardware issue decided to spin up chromium, then Chrome with random google searches ,and tossed in a bunch of tabs in firefox, and my old ooold del from 07 or so. No crash, no bluescreen. *yeeeah* Questions: I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps out*yeeeah* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...
@Tom huh I'll 2x check that--apreciate the sugestion to check. Hopefully it's that simple. On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: Could that Windows problem be because of your settings related to automatically install Windows updates and then automatically reboot? Tom Sent with MailTrack https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signaturelang=enreferral=jtjohnson...@gmail.comidSignature=22 Tom Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Society of Professional Journalists http://www.spj.org - Region 9 http://www.spj.org/region9.asp Director *Check out It's The People's Data https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671* http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:56 PM, gepr geprope...@gmail.com wrote: I recommend Ghostery. On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote: Questions: I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps out*yee FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...
I recommend Ghostery. On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote: Questions: I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps out*yee FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...
Server procedures written in R would be pretty neat trick for data miners.. http://blog.revolutionanalytics.com/2015/05/r-in-sql-server.html From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Arlo Barnes Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 4:26 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux... On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Frank Wimberly wimber...@gmail.commailto:wimber...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Windows, a button has recently appeared on my Windows 7 machine which appears to download and install Windows 10. Any recommendations? Recommendations for what? Whether you should push the button? How to get it to go away? I recommend not having to deal with Microsoft anymore (or at least as little as possible), but each person makes their own way through this stuff, more or less. -Arlo James Barnes FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...
Could that Windows problem be because of your settings related to automatically install Windows updates and then automatically reboot? Tom Sent with MailTrack https://mailtrack.io/install?source=signaturelang=enreferral=jtjohnson...@gmail.comidSignature=22 Tom Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Society of Professional Journalists http://www.spj.org - Region 9 http://www.spj.org/region9.asp Director *Check out It's The People's Data https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671* http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:56 PM, gepr geprope...@gmail.com wrote: I recommend Ghostery. On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote: Questions: I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps out*yee FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...
Speaking of Windows, a button has recently appeared on my Windows 7 machine which appears to download and install Windows 10. Any recommendations? Frank Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Phone (505) 670-9918 On Jul 17, 2015 1:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote: Not a bash on Windows! History: I've used linux in the past, and decided to experiment because my desktop a Dell has some kind of Gremlin on the windows side that causes it to reboot on it's own. Being concerned it's a hardware problem first hit control-delete to see if anything stood out, cache files, or to many apps running in the background etc. Only thing that stood out that I could tell was with nothing running and it just idle it'd creap up from about 30% ram used to about 40% Mixed in firefox because I like the session save and restore addon it'd hover around 40% and my games would easly push it to about 55-60% used. By used in the pased I meen KDE 2.0 I think it was when I'd start my fun box I'd get a mysterius line that said username@bash(or somesuch) and to get to xorg typed in start x, and flash didn't play with I think it was Mandrake (no idea what number) Why: Why not? Plus it be useful to see if it has a buried gremlin. Results: I had Ubuntu 1405 Trusty I think it is. Sufficed to say Ubuntu is growing on me, and after about 4-5 days of doing my routine things mostly works. *yeah* Just to see if it's a hardware issue decided to spin up chromium, then Chrome with random google searches ,and tossed in a bunch of tabs in firefox, and my old ooold del from 07 or so. No crash, no bluescreen. *yeeeah* Questions: I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps out*yeeeah* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Frank Wimberly wimber...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Windows, a button has recently appeared on my Windows 7 machine which appears to download and install Windows 10. Any recommendations? Recommendations for what? Whether you should push the button? How to get it to go away? I recommend not having to deal with Microsoft anymore (or at least as little as possible), but each person makes their own way through this stuff, more or less. -Arlo James Barnes FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Games!
Eve-online is pirates, investment bankers, corporate raiders, spies, and arbitrage in space. If you aren't part of a guild/country/group, you're a victim. Ray Parks Consilient Heuristician/IDART Old-Timer V: 505-844-4024 M: 505-238-9359 P: 505-951-6084 NIPR: rcpa...@sandia.gov SIPR: rcpar...@sandia.doe.sgov.gov (send NIPR reminder) JWICS: dopa...@doe.ic.gov (send NIPR reminder) On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:29 AM, cody dooderson wrote: I played 2 of those games on the first list, 3rd World Farmer and Stop Disasters. They were actually pretty entertaining. 3rd world farmer is like Oregon trail. You think everything is going fine until someone in your family gets the measles and your shed burns with your chickens inside, ughh. It will take a long time to get through that list. Marcos Lopez says eve-online is spread sheets in space. Maybe i'll pass on that one. Cody Smith On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Curt McNamara curt...@gmail.com wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_for_Change On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Curt McNamara curt...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.onlinecolleges.net/50-great-sites-for-serious-educational-games/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/danieltack/2013/09/12/serious-games-and-the-future-of-education/ Curt On Jul 7, 2015 12:38 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote: @Cody As to video games, I submit they're somewhat useful or at least can be depending on what you consider useful of course. SimCity (for example), EverQuest(was is/was) believe it or not used in Leadership, and Project Management courses-basicly build a city and what do you do when something goes wrong. if I recall someone years ago from someone Orion Games talked at the Complex showing real world examples of fire-fighters, and pilots used Flight sims to help with training. World of Warcraft and other Massive Online Sims (or MMO/ MMORPG/ MMOAs) are often used as part of humanistic design resliance studies, leadership studies as well because you are in a group. How do you have to take criticism. How do you handle it? Can you get a group together? etc. I am unclear how useful those life skills are, but leadership skills and someway to be somewhat self reliant and managing tasks is likely at least somewhat useful in day-to-day life. On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Marcus Daniels mar...@snoutfarm.com wrote: Yup, one of the arguments in the list of reasons-gaming-is-good TED talks was that they can be engaging as an educational tool. But you're clearly just trying to horrify me now.:-) -Original Message- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:53 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] DOH! Heh, as if the argument weren't absurd enough already, there's this: Is Facebook the next frontier for online learning? http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2015/is-facebook-the-next-frontier-for-online-learning/ I try to avoid facebook, despite my omnivorism. But when in Rome... -- ⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella I got my face in the furnace, I got my snake in a sleeve FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...
I prefer the most minimalistic desktops. Not only because they use less resources but because I do not like those fancy, colored and plenty of boxes and icons of the last versions of Gnome, KDE and Ubuntu. I only use distributions with LXDE desktop. I just quit Crunchbang only because maintenance has been finished but Crunchbang is maybe the best distro I have used in 16 years being a Linux user. I have installed LXLE and Lubuntu in a same machine booting from different hard drives. Both of them with LXDE desktop. They are behaving really good. Lubuntu's repository is better. I just ordered a brand new Dell with Ubuntu pre installed. It is going to be fun running Linux in a modern and good machine. Windows Systems will be upgraded from win 7 or 8 to Windows 10 on 29th of July. Win 8 is really ugly, is even worst than Gnome 3. Theoretically we should backup our important data prior the upgrade. Microsoft announced that Win 10 well be free during the first year. After that, We do not know. I read somewhere that it is possible to disable the upgrade. Chromiun and Firefox run pretty fine in Linux. I prefer Firefox because the amazing amount of Add-ons that can be installed and I normally use some of them. 2015-07-17 17:22 GMT-05:00 Frank Wimberly wimber...@gmail.com: Speaking of Windows, a button has recently appeared on my Windows 7 machine which appears to download and install Windows 10. Any recommendations? Frank Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Phone (505) 670-9918 On Jul 17, 2015 1:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote: Not a bash on Windows! History: I've used linux in the past, and decided to experiment because my desktop a Dell has some kind of Gremlin on the windows side that causes it to reboot on it's own. Being concerned it's a hardware problem first hit control-delete to see if anything stood out, cache files, or to many apps running in the background etc. Only thing that stood out that I could tell was with nothing running and it just idle it'd creap up from about 30% ram used to about 40% Mixed in firefox because I like the session save and restore addon it'd hover around 40% and my games would easly push it to about 55-60% used. By used in the pased I meen KDE 2.0 I think it was when I'd start my fun box I'd get a mysterius line that said username@bash(or somesuch) and to get to xorg typed in start x, and flash didn't play with I think it was Mandrake (no idea what number) Why: Why not? Plus it be useful to see if it has a buried gremlin. Results: I had Ubuntu 1405 Trusty I think it is. Sufficed to say Ubuntu is growing on me, and after about 4-5 days of doing my routine things mostly works. *yeah* Just to see if it's a hardware issue decided to spin up chromium, then Chrome with random google searches ,and tossed in a bunch of tabs in firefox, and my old ooold del from 07 or so. No crash, no bluescreen. *yeeeah* Questions: I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps out*yeeeah* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- Agrónomo, IT, Candidato a MSc en Desarrollo Sostenible y Medio Ambiente +57 3154531383 FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com