Re: [FRIAM] Games!

2015-07-17 Thread cody dooderson
I played 2 of those games on the first list, 3rd World Farmer and Stop
Disasters. They were actually pretty entertaining. 3rd world farmer is like
Oregon trail. You think everything is going fine until someone in your
family gets the measles and your shed burns with your chickens inside, ughh.
It will take a long time to get through that list. Marcos Lopez says
eve-online is spread sheets in space. Maybe i'll pass on that one.

Cody Smith

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Curt McNamara curt...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_for_Change


 On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Curt McNamara curt...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://www.onlinecolleges.net/50-great-sites-for-serious-educational-games/


 http://www.forbes.com/sites/danieltack/2013/09/12/serious-games-and-the-future-of-education/

 Curt
 On Jul 7, 2015 12:38 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 @Cody As to video games, I submit they're somewhat useful or at least
 can be depending on what you consider useful of course. SimCity (for
 example), EverQuest(was is/was) believe it or not used in Leadership, and
 Project Management courses-basicly build a city and what do you do when
 something goes wrong.
 if I recall someone years ago from someone Orion Games talked at the
 Complex showing real world examples of fire-fighters, and pilots used
 Flight sims to help with training.


 World of Warcraft and other Massive Online Sims (or MMO/ MMORPG/ MMOAs)
 are often used as part of humanistic design  resliance studies,
 leadership studies as well because you are in a group. How do you have to
 take criticism. How do you handle it? Can you get a group together?  etc. I
 am unclear how useful those life skills are, but leadership skills and
 someway to be somewhat self reliant and managing tasks is likely at least
 somewhat useful in day-to-day life.






 On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Marcus Daniels mar...@snoutfarm.com
 wrote:

 Yup, one of the arguments in the list of reasons-gaming-is-good TED
 talks was that they can be engaging as an educational tool.

 But you're clearly just trying to horrify me now.:-)

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 Subject: Re: [FRIAM] DOH!


 Heh, as if the argument weren't absurd enough already, there's this:

Is Facebook the next frontier for online learning?

 http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2015/is-facebook-the-next-frontier-for-online-learning/

 I try to avoid facebook, despite my omnivorism.  But when in Rome...

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Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [alife] Conference Announcement - Re-conceptualizing the Origin of Life, Abstract deadline is Aug. 1st

2015-07-17 Thread glen ep ropella

Speaking of ALife, will anyone else be at ECAL next week?

On 07/16/2015 03:50 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
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 Date: Jul 16, 2015 3:48 PM
 Subject: [alife] Conference Announcement - Re-conceptualizing the Origin of 
 Life, Abstract deadline is Aug. 1st
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 Cc:
 
 *Upcoming Conference on*
 
 *“Re-conceptualizing the Origin of Life”*
 
 *Nov. 9-13th, 2015 at Carnegie Institution of Washington, Washington D.C.*

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[FRIAM] a week on just linux...

2015-07-17 Thread Gillian Densmore
Not a bash on Windows!
History:
I've used linux in the past, and decided to experiment because my desktop a
Dell has some kind of Gremlin on the windows side that causes it to reboot
on it's own.
Being concerned it's a hardware problem first hit control-delete to see if
anything stood out, cache files, or to many apps running in the background
etc.
Only thing that stood out that I could tell was with nothing running and it
just idle it'd creap up from about 30% ram used to about 40%
Mixed in firefox because I like the session save and restore addon it'd
hover around 40% and my games would easly push it to about 55-60% used.
By used in the pased I meen KDE 2.0 I think it was when I'd start my  fun
box I'd get a mysterius line that said username@bash(or somesuch) and to
get to xorg typed in start x, and flash didn't play with I think it was
Mandrake (no idea what number)

Why:
Why not? Plus it be useful to see if it has a buried gremlin.

Results:
I had Ubuntu 1405 Trusty I think it is.
Sufficed to say Ubuntu is growing on me, and after about 4-5 days of doing
my routine things mostly works. *yeah*

Just to see if it's a hardware issue decided  to spin up chromium, then
Chrome with random google searches ,and tossed in a bunch of tabs in
firefox, and my old ooold del  from 07 or so. No crash, no bluescreen.
*yeeeah*


Questions:
I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a
browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask
because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com
etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps
out*yeeeah*

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Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...

2015-07-17 Thread Arlo Barnes
I believe the pair of extensions that are AdBlock / AdBlockPlus are
designed to be cross-browser, and are in the Chrome Web Store. I seem to
get by with just FlashControl (which is immaterial because I do not have
the Flash .so anyway since it is nonfree), but I have also heard good
things about NoScript.
Good luck and have fun on your GNU/Linux box!
-Arlo James Barnes
*PostScript*: Laughed when I saw not a bash on Windows - true unless you
got Cygwin working!.

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Re: [FRIAM] speculative Q

2015-07-17 Thread glen


On 07/15/2015 08:08 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
 If one wants a tool to do a job, why would that person have more opinions 
 about tools not in that category?They just want that kind of tool.   If 
 FOO and BAR are competing, then it is different because BAR is like non-FOO.  
  But that's not about being opinionated, that's about protecting an 
 investment.   FOO and BAR don't need to represent an ideology, just some 
 random goal that for whatever reason the supporters happen to grow a 
 community around.

Well, we had been talking about community for community's sake.  If we assume 
that the 2 categories (community purely for mission vs. community for the sake 
of community) are not disjoint and that there's a spectrum between them, then 
it's relatively easy to see how a given community, if large enough, will 
contain a mix of ideology and practice.  In other words, we can assume everyone 
has at least a little ideology, even if it only manifests as slight preferences 
(like vi over emacs).

 If FOO and BAR represent ideologies, cohesion can help.   For example, I 
 would always choose to work on GPLed software rather than not if my intent is 
 to make it free.   In practice, that would typically mean to add-value to 
 someone else's tool.  My selection criteria is the philosophy behind the GPL, 
 not the details of the tool itself (provided the tool is technically 
 adequate).  I know other people that can't imagine adding value to another 
 person's tool.   While they might give their work away, they would do it for 
 promotional or egotistical reasons.  They don't have this community's 
 ideology.

But, again, you're being very binary.  Practically, each member will be a 
member in part because they're aligned ideologically, in part because they 
contribute to the mission, and in part for promotional/egotistical reasons.  
Those sets aren't disjoint, regardless of what the participants think about 
themselves.

 If FOO and BAR represent different kinds of strong technical preferences then 
 that could explain why cooperation around multi-aspect software is harder.   
 There's too much to fight about.   But then consider loose cooperative 
 efforts like Hackage, or CTAN, CPAN, CRAN, etc.  each representing millions 
 of lines of code.  To say these aren't multi-aspect is absurd.   They are 
 very, very high dimensional, interdependent, and open-ended.

Yes, but it would be a stretch to think of things like CPAN as user-facing 
tools.  They are more middle-ware or back-end.  At best, you can only think of 
the front-end script that accesses the databases as the front-end part.  And 
that's certainly not multi-aspect.  That /usr/bin/cpan script has a very narrow 
focus in handling the packages.

These collective efforts are more like federations than applications.  And 
federations are methodological approaches to handling large sets of opinionated 
members ... like the EU or the US.  They are explicitly _designed_ to handle 
the extremists and their _splat_ of opinions on everything under the sun, 
because they allow even the extremists a way to focus in on the minimal 
agreement required to cooperate.

So, collectives like Hackage et al don't bolster your argument, they refute it. 
 They're examples that the members with loud opinions on one thing are likely 
to have loud opinions on other things.  Hence, a federation is needed to help 
them minimize the amount of agreement required to cooperate.

 So I'll return to the view that proprietary mainstream user-facing software 
 holds its place not because it is multi-aspect, but because its aspects are 
 well understood and curated (and as Roger points out the marketing and 
 product development are intertwined). Emacs is user facing but in 
 contrast users come to appreciate Emacs rather than Emacs coming to 
 appreciate (pander to) its users.Emacs is what its developer base wants 
 it to be and everyone else can get lost.

Programs like LibreOffice or maybe Eclipse do bolster your argument, I think.  
I don't know about Emacs.  It's a strange beast that I think has survived for 
reasons other than coherence around a mission.  But I'm certainly willing to be 
wrong, there.


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Re: [FRIAM] speculative Q

2015-07-17 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 08:10:09PM -0700, glen wrote:
 
 
 Programs like LibreOffice or maybe Eclipse do bolster your argument, I think. 
  I don't know about Emacs.  It's a strange beast that I think has survived 
 for reasons other than coherence around a mission.  But I'm certainly willing 
 to be wrong, there.
 

I do know about emacs. It survives, because it is bloody good at being
a text editor, particular for programming. I suppose vi is the same -
I've seen some people make vi stand up and sing, but for me, its
behaviour when interacting with vt100 style terminals has always put
me off.

Cheers

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Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...

2015-07-17 Thread Russell Standish
Windows 10 is not available for another month!

But having said that, I have been playing around with Windows 10
(pre-release version given to beta-testers) in a virtual machine, and my initial
impressions is that it is Windows 8 done right. It shouldn't be too
much of a stretch from Windows 7.

Mind you, I'm not doing too much in Windows these days - I'm primarily
a Linux user (OpenSUSE, with fvwm2 as a desktop), and that doesn't
look like changing any time soon. Next year will be the 20th year of
using the same window manager (desktop UI), and I've yet to see
anything superior for my purposes (out of KDE/Gnome/Windows
XP,7,8,10/MacOSX Aqua...).

Cheers

Cheers

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 04:22:40PM -0600, Frank Wimberly wrote:
 Speaking of Windows, a button has recently appeared on my Windows 7
 machine which appears to download and install Windows 10.  Any
 recommendations?
 
 Frank
 
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 On Jul 17, 2015 1:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Not a bash on Windows!
  History:
  I've used linux in the past, and decided to experiment because my desktop
  a Dell has some kind of Gremlin on the windows side that causes it to
  reboot on it's own.
  Being concerned it's a hardware problem first hit control-delete to see if
  anything stood out, cache files, or to many apps running in the background
  etc.
  Only thing that stood out that I could tell was with nothing running and
  it just idle it'd creap up from about 30% ram used to about 40%
  Mixed in firefox because I like the session save and restore addon it'd
  hover around 40% and my games would easly push it to about 55-60% used.
  By used in the pased I meen KDE 2.0 I think it was when I'd start my  fun
  box I'd get a mysterius line that said username@bash(or somesuch) and to
  get to xorg typed in start x, and flash didn't play with I think it was
  Mandrake (no idea what number)
 
  Why:
  Why not? Plus it be useful to see if it has a buried gremlin.
 
  Results:
  I had Ubuntu 1405 Trusty I think it is.
  Sufficed to say Ubuntu is growing on me, and after about 4-5 days of doing
  my routine things mostly works. *yeah*
 
  Just to see if it's a hardware issue decided  to spin up chromium, then
  Chrome with random google searches ,and tossed in a bunch of tabs in
  firefox, and my old ooold del  from 07 or so. No crash, no bluescreen.
  *yeeeah*
 
 
  Questions:
  I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a
  browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask
  because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com
  etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps
  out*yeeeah*
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...

2015-07-17 Thread Gillian Densmore
@Tom huh I'll 2x check that--apreciate the sugestion to check. Hopefully
it's that simple. 

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 Could that Windows problem be because of your settings related to
 automatically install Windows updates and then automatically reboot?

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 I recommend Ghostery.

 On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Questions:
  I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a
 browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask
 because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com
 etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps
 out*yee

 
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Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...

2015-07-17 Thread gepr
I recommend Ghostery.

On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Questions:
 I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a
browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask
because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com
etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps
out*yee

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Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...

2015-07-17 Thread Marcus Daniels
Server procedures written in R would be pretty neat trick for data miners..

http://blog.revolutionanalytics.com/2015/05/r-in-sql-server.html

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Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 4:26 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Frank Wimberly 
wimber...@gmail.commailto:wimber...@gmail.com wrote:

Speaking of Windows, a button has recently appeared on my Windows 7 machine 
which appears to download and install Windows 10.  Any recommendations?
Recommendations for what? Whether you should push the button? How to get it to 
go away? I recommend not having to deal with Microsoft anymore (or at least as 
little as possible), but each person makes their own way through this stuff, 
more or less.
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Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...

2015-07-17 Thread Tom Johnson
Could that Windows problem be because of your settings related to
automatically install Windows updates and then automatically reboot?

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On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:56 PM, gepr geprope...@gmail.com wrote:

 I recommend Ghostery.

 On Jul 17, 2015 12:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Questions:
  I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a
 browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask
 because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com
 etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps
 out*yee

 
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Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...

2015-07-17 Thread Frank Wimberly
Speaking of Windows, a button has recently appeared on my Windows 7
machine which appears to download and install Windows 10.  Any
recommendations?

Frank

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Phone
(505) 670-9918
On Jul 17, 2015 1:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not a bash on Windows!
 History:
 I've used linux in the past, and decided to experiment because my desktop
 a Dell has some kind of Gremlin on the windows side that causes it to
 reboot on it's own.
 Being concerned it's a hardware problem first hit control-delete to see if
 anything stood out, cache files, or to many apps running in the background
 etc.
 Only thing that stood out that I could tell was with nothing running and
 it just idle it'd creap up from about 30% ram used to about 40%
 Mixed in firefox because I like the session save and restore addon it'd
 hover around 40% and my games would easly push it to about 55-60% used.
 By used in the pased I meen KDE 2.0 I think it was when I'd start my  fun
 box I'd get a mysterius line that said username@bash(or somesuch) and to
 get to xorg typed in start x, and flash didn't play with I think it was
 Mandrake (no idea what number)

 Why:
 Why not? Plus it be useful to see if it has a buried gremlin.

 Results:
 I had Ubuntu 1405 Trusty I think it is.
 Sufficed to say Ubuntu is growing on me, and after about 4-5 days of doing
 my routine things mostly works. *yeah*

 Just to see if it's a hardware issue decided  to spin up chromium, then
 Chrome with random google searches ,and tossed in a bunch of tabs in
 firefox, and my old ooold del  from 07 or so. No crash, no bluescreen.
 *yeeeah*


 Questions:
 I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a
 browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask
 because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com
 etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps
 out*yeeeah*





 
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Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...

2015-07-17 Thread Arlo Barnes
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Frank Wimberly wimber...@gmail.com wrote:

 Speaking of Windows, a button has recently appeared on my Windows 7
 machine which appears to download and install Windows 10.  Any
 recommendations?

Recommendations for what? Whether you should push the button? How to get it
to go away? I recommend not having to deal with Microsoft anymore (or at
least as little as possible), but each person makes their own way through
this stuff, more or less.
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Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Games!

2015-07-17 Thread Parks, Raymond
Eve-online is pirates, investment bankers, corporate raiders, spies, and 
arbitrage in space.  If you aren't part of a guild/country/group, you're a 
victim.

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On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:29 AM, cody dooderson wrote:

 I played 2 of those games on the first list, 3rd World Farmer and Stop 
 Disasters. They were actually pretty entertaining. 3rd world farmer is like 
 Oregon trail. You think everything is going fine until someone in your family 
 gets the measles and your shed burns with your chickens inside, ughh.
 It will take a long time to get through that list. Marcos Lopez says 
 eve-online is spread sheets in space. Maybe i'll pass on that one. 
 
 Cody Smith
 
 On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Curt McNamara curt...@gmail.com wrote:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_for_Change
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Curt McNamara curt...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.onlinecolleges.net/50-great-sites-for-serious-educational-games/
 
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/danieltack/2013/09/12/serious-games-and-the-future-of-education/
 
 Curt
 
 On Jul 7, 2015 12:38 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote:
 @Cody As to video games, I submit they're somewhat useful or at least can be 
 depending on what you consider useful of course. SimCity (for example), 
 EverQuest(was is/was) believe it or not used in Leadership, and Project 
 Management courses-basicly build a city and what do you do when something 
 goes wrong.
 if I recall someone years ago from someone Orion Games talked at the Complex 
 showing real world examples of fire-fighters, and pilots used  Flight sims to 
 help with training.
 
 
 World of Warcraft and other Massive Online Sims (or MMO/ MMORPG/ MMOAs) are 
 often used as part of humanistic design  resliance studies, leadership 
 studies as well because you are in a group. How do you have to take 
 criticism. How do you handle it? Can you get a group together?  etc. I am 
 unclear how useful those life skills are, but leadership skills and someway 
 to be somewhat self reliant and managing tasks is likely at least somewhat 
 useful in day-to-day life.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Marcus Daniels mar...@snoutfarm.com wrote:
 Yup, one of the arguments in the list of reasons-gaming-is-good TED talks was 
 that they can be engaging as an educational tool.
 
 But you're clearly just trying to horrify me now.:-)
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:53 AM
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 Heh, as if the argument weren't absurd enough already, there's this:
 
Is Facebook the next frontier for online learning?

 http://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2015/is-facebook-the-next-frontier-for-online-learning/
 
 I try to avoid facebook, despite my omnivorism.  But when in Rome...
 
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Re: [FRIAM] a week on just linux...

2015-07-17 Thread Alfredo Covaleda Vélez
I prefer the most minimalistic desktops. Not only because they use less
resources but because I do not like those fancy, colored and plenty of
boxes and icons of the last versions of Gnome, KDE and Ubuntu. I
only use  distributions with LXDE desktop. I just quit Crunchbang only
because maintenance has been finished but Crunchbang is maybe the best
distro I have used in 16 years being a Linux user. I have installed
LXLE and Lubuntu in a same machine booting from different hard drives.
Both of them with LXDE desktop. They are behaving really good.
Lubuntu's repository is better.  I just ordered a brand new Dell with
Ubuntu pre installed. It is going to be fun running Linux in a modern
and good machine.

Windows Systems will be upgraded from win 7 or 8 to Windows 10 on 29th
of July.  Win 8 is really ugly, is even worst than Gnome 3.
Theoretically we should backup our important data prior the upgrade.
Microsoft announced that Win 10 well be free during the first year.
After that, We do not know. I read somewhere that it is possible to
disable the upgrade.

Chromiun and Firefox run pretty fine in Linux. I prefer Firefox because
the amazing amount of Add-ons that can be installed and I normally use
some of them.

2015-07-17 17:22 GMT-05:00 Frank Wimberly wimber...@gmail.com:

 Speaking of Windows, a button has recently appeared on my Windows 7
 machine which appears to download and install Windows 10.  Any
 recommendations?

 Frank

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 (505) 670-9918
 On Jul 17, 2015 1:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Not a bash on Windows!
 History:
 I've used linux in the past, and decided to experiment because my desktop
 a Dell has some kind of Gremlin on the windows side that causes it to
 reboot on it's own.
 Being concerned it's a hardware problem first hit control-delete to see
 if anything stood out, cache files, or to many apps running in the
 background etc.
 Only thing that stood out that I could tell was with nothing running and
 it just idle it'd creap up from about 30% ram used to about 40%
 Mixed in firefox because I like the session save and restore addon it'd
 hover around 40% and my games would easly push it to about 55-60% used.
 By used in the pased I meen KDE 2.0 I think it was when I'd start my  fun
 box I'd get a mysterius line that said username@bash(or somesuch) and to
 get to xorg typed in start x, and flash didn't play with I think it was
 Mandrake (no idea what number)

 Why:
 Why not? Plus it be useful to see if it has a buried gremlin.

 Results:
 I had Ubuntu 1405 Trusty I think it is.
 Sufficed to say Ubuntu is growing on me, and after about 4-5 days of
 doing my routine things mostly works. *yeah*

 Just to see if it's a hardware issue decided  to spin up chromium, then
 Chrome with random google searches ,and tossed in a bunch of tabs in
 firefox, and my old ooold del  from 07 or so. No crash, no bluescreen.
 *yeeeah*


 Questions:
 I'm not particularly familiar with chromium, and not maried to it as a
 browser iether. I didn't see where it might have somethlike addblock. I ask
 because websites I might typically go to (google, bing git, wordpress.com
 etc) hadd all sorts of inline adds, that I gather addblock on FireFox keeps
 out*yeeeah*





 
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