Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
On Wed, 7 May 2008, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 06May2008 09:24, Lucio Chiappetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it is possible to configure the list per-user to send daily MIME digests instead of individual mails ? To drift even further, I still don't understand why people prefer digests. I filter lists into separate folders on delivery Possibly at the end I would revert to something like that if I can't subscribe to this (or other technical list) by digest. Could you, as a digest preferrer, please explain what you like about them? I like the fact I receive a single digest per day, and I'd have to do nothing about it on my side (not that I would not know how to emulate what you suggest above by procmail, I do lot of other things by procmail http://sax.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/Procmail/) In general I have classified mailing lists in two categories, important and secondary (most technical lists are secondary). Normally I receive everything in my inbox (but a digest FORCES me to check it only daily and ENFORCES this rule) ... when I go on holiday I divert all important lists to a single separate folder (so that I can read it second-priority when I come back), and all secondary lists to /dev/null. Apart from that I normally look at the list of subjects at the beginning of the digest. In most cases I conclude there is nothing interesting today and delete the entire digest. In the case there is something interesting, I'll expand the digest in a temporary folder (just found a nice way to attach a formail invocation to a single key in pine) and look at that. NB strictly MIME digests with each message a separate RFC822 item. I find digests handy even on non-technical lists. We have a compulsory list for all the staff of my organization. In principle it should be used only for announcements (conferences, jobs, etc.), but it is often used also for trade union announcements, complaints, discussions, And every time the traffic increases somebody start complaining, So we are thinking to moderate it and create another discussion list. By default everybody would be subscribed to the discussion list, but could unsubscribe. To discourage people from unsubscribing, and to discourage real time discussions (or me too messages) we are thinking to make digests the default for the discussion list, so people would receive a daily digest unless they require otherwise. Anyhow, I repeat my question, is at all possible to receive digests from a majordomo list like fvwm ? -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html Do not blame ME, I did NOT vote Berlusconi.
Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
On Mon, 5 May 2008, Perry Hutchison wrote: BTW the FVWM list (and I think most other open-source help lists) prefers to keep discussions on the list, I agree with such policy Sorry, auto-typed the N response to Pine's Reply to all? ... Don't suppose you know a way to make it by default reply to the list when it's there, and to the sender only if it's not? I have no clue if it's possible to configure Pine that way, but I presume one can do it playing with pine roles and rules (I'm pretty sure I configured mine to use a specific alternate from address when replying to a specific moderated list to which I'm compulsorily subscribed using such alternate address). Since we are slightly OT about mailing lists, and since this FVWM list is recently giving rise to some more traffic than usual, does anybody know if it is possible to configure the list per-user to send daily MIME digests instead of individual mails ? I have now configured that way most of the mailman-based mailing lists to which I subscribe, but the FVMW list is a majordomo list, isn't it ? -- Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html Do not blame ME, I did NOT vote Berlusconi.
Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 02:21:12PM -0700, Perry Hutchison wrote: BTW the FVWM list (and I think most other open-source help lists) prefers to keep discussions on the list, so that others who may have the same question, currently or when searching the archives in the future, can also find the answer. Sorry, auto-typed the N response to Pine's Reply to all? ... Don't suppose you know a way to make it by default reply to the list when it's there, and to the sender only if it's not? I have no clue if it's possible to configure Pine that way, but maybe someone else on the list will know. (My experience with Pine consists of maybe half a day several years ago, just long enough to figure out that I prefer a POSIX-compliant mail client, such as nail :) I use mutt (which is supposed to be a distant descendent of elm and pine), mutt has a reply to list command which does the right things when replying to lists. If the mail being replied to isn't from a mailing list then you get an error message. -- Chris Green
Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
On 05May2008 17:02, Eben King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW the FVWM list (and I think most other open-source help lists) prefers to keep discussions on the list, so that others who may have the same question, currently or when searching the archives in the future, can also find the answer. Sorry, auto-typed the N response to Pine's Reply to all? question. I'll be more careful. Don't suppose you know a way to make it by default reply to the list when it's there, and to the sender only if it's not? It's easy in mutt. Personally I always type 'g' (group-reply, aka reply to all) and the prune the to/cc lines by hand if needed. Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ Upon arrival in Cass, I was sure we were too late. The first major building was a collapsed church. Man these Denizens work fast. - Alan Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
On 06May2008 09:24, Lucio Chiappetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 5 May 2008, Perry Hutchison wrote: Since we are slightly OT about mailing lists, and since this FVWM list is recently giving rise to some more traffic than usual, does anybody know if it is possible to configure the list per-user to send daily MIME digests instead of individual mails ? To drift even further, I still don't understand why people prefer digests. I filter lists into separate folders on delivery and find the folder-per-list (or folder per bunch of similar lists) much easier and friendlier than digests. Could you, as a digest preferrer, please explain what you like about them? I'm not trying to convert you (though I'd happily force-convert the digest users who reply to the whole digest instead of the right subject:-). Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ There's two kinds of climbers...smart ones, and dead ones. - Don Whillans
Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
On 05/05/2008, Chris G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do people here use (if anything) as a calendar/alarm/PIM application? I want something *much* lighter than, for example, Evolution as I have no need at all for E-Mail with it. Sunbird? Orage? I just use remind/wyrd, personally. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
What do people here use (if anything) as a calendar/alarm/PIM application? I use remind together will a silly Qt3 app I wrote for popping up reminder messages: http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley/qtmess.html I want something *much* lighter than, for example, Evolution as I have no need at all for E-Mail with it. Heck, I want something lighter than evolution for everything, including email :-).
Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 04:43:40PM +, Tom Horsley wrote: What do people here use (if anything) as a calendar/alarm/PIM application? I use remind together will a silly Qt3 app I wrote for popping up reminder messages: http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley/qtmess.html I want something *much* lighter than, for example, Evolution as I have no need at all for E-Mail with it. Heck, I want something lighter than evolution for everything, including email :-). Yes, exactly, I use mutt via ssh. :-) I have realised that I need something *slightly* different from the standard calendar program. I need something that reminds me of things that I have to do on/before a certain date (small company tax payments, etc.) so I want a reminder, say, seven days before and then a repeating reminder until I tell the reminder program I have done what it's reminding me about. I did look at remind a while ago and decided it was too complex for what I wanted. I have been using reminderfox (Firefox addon) which *almost* does what I want but I can't tell it that I have 'done' an event. -- Chris Green
Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
What do people here use (if anything) as a calendar/alarm/PIM application? I have realised that I need something *slightly* different from the standard calendar program. I need something that reminds me of things that I have to do on/before a certain date (small company tax payments, etc.) so I want a reminder, say, seven days before and then a repeating reminder until I tell the reminder program I have done what it's reminding me about. I did look at remind a while ago and decided it was too complex for what I wanted. I have been using reminderfox (Firefox addon) which *almost* does what I want but I can't tell it that I have 'done' an event. iCal can do this. Mark an entry as a TODO, and it will keep coming back every day until checked off as done.
Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
... I want a reminder, say, seven days before and then a repeating reminder until I tell the reminder program I have done what it's reminding me about. iCal can do this. Mark an entry as a TODO, and it will keep coming back every day until checked off as done. POSIX, or MacOSX-specific? Certainly not MacOSX-specific, since I'm running it on Red Hat 9 Linux here at the office and I also run it on FreeBSD at home. I have no idea what, if anything, POSIX may have to say about the matter. There may be more than one calendar application claiming the same name. This one was written in Tcl/Tk by Sanjay Ghemawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] and was somewhat of an orphan as long ago as Red Hat 6.2 (which is where I first found it). BTW the FVWM list (and I think most other open-source help lists) prefers to keep discussions on the list, so that others who may have the same question, currently or when searching the archives in the future, can also find the answer.
Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 01:48:53PM -0700, Perry Hutchison wrote: ... I want a reminder, say, seven days before and then a repeating reminder until I tell the reminder program I have done what it's reminding me about. iCal can do this. Mark an entry as a TODO, and it will keep coming back every day until checked off as done. POSIX, or MacOSX-specific? Certainly not MacOSX-specific, since I'm running it on Red Hat 9 Linux here at the office and I also run it on FreeBSD at home. I have no idea what, if anything, POSIX may have to say about the matter. There may be more than one calendar application claiming the same name. This one was written in Tcl/Tk by Sanjay Ghemawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] and was somewhat of an orphan as long ago as Red Hat 6.2 (which is where I first found it). BTW the FVWM list (and I think most other open-source help lists) prefers to keep discussions on the list, so that others who may have the same question, currently or when searching the archives in the future, can also find the answer. I'm the OP, I searched for iCal with Google and there are indeed two iCals, one is the well known (and current) Apple iCal and the other is the one referred to above which has been a bit of an orphan for a while but does have a few people working on it. Re my original question I have found that ReminderFox now has the ability I want - it'll keep reminding me about an upcoming regular event until I mark it as complete but will still remind me again the next time the event becomes due. So I'll probably stay with ReminderFox. -- Chris Green
Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
On Mon, 5 May 2008, Perry Hutchison wrote: ... I want a reminder, say, seven days before and then a repeating reminder until I tell the reminder program I have done what it's reminding me about. iCal can do this. Mark an entry as a TODO, and it will keep coming back every day until checked off as done. POSIX, or MacOSX-specific? Certainly not MacOSX-specific, since I'm running it on Red Hat 9 Linux here at the office and I also run it on FreeBSD at home. I have no idea what, if anything, POSIX may have to say about the matter. iwhatever is usually Apple. I'll readjust... There may be more than one calendar application claiming the same name. This one was written in Tcl/Tk by Sanjay Ghemawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] and was somewhat of an orphan as long ago as Red Hat 6.2 (which is where I first found it). Right, not this one then: http://www.apple.com/support/ical/ BTW the FVWM list (and I think most other open-source help lists) prefers to keep discussions on the list, so that others who may have the same question, currently or when searching the archives in the future, can also find the answer. Sorry, auto-typed the N response to Pine's Reply to all? question. I'll be more careful. Don't suppose you know a way to make it by default reply to the list when it's there, and to the sender only if it's not? -- -eben [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://royalty.mine.nu:81 It can be shown that for any nutty theory, beyond-the-fringe political view or strange religion there exists a proponent on the Net. The proof is left as an exercise for your kill-file. -- Bertil Jonell
Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
I searched for iCal with Google and there are indeed two iCals, one is the well known (and current) Apple iCal and the other is the one referred to above which has been a bit of an orphan for a while but does have a few people working on it. I can't get tcl/tk(/c) ical to compile run anymore, so ive partially created a pure tcl that's .calendar/user.tcl compatible. Presently, it can display most of .calendar but not alter it.
Re: FVWM: Alarm/calendar applications that work well in fvwm?
I can't get tcl/tk(/c) ical to compile run anymore ... [This is getting OT for FVWM, but I'm not aware of a support list for Sanjay Ghemawat's ical.] Which OS/version are you using? It works for me on Red Hat 9, RHEL4 (with a bit of tweaking), and FreeBSD 6.1. I haven't tried it on FreeBSD 7.0 yet.
