Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-03 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:14:11PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:09:49PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
  On 2 September 2014 23:04, Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de wrote:
   Can you write the missing sub-rule for the Test command
   (the one that has to do with infostore)?
  
  Will do in the next half-hour or so.
 
 Great.  This is the last missing piece of the conditional commands.
 I'm eager to get over with the basic parsing description draft so
 I can try some practical things.  :-)

Dominik,

Are we OK to lay a steak in the ground, and for me to merge
document-parsing to master?  Then we can consider what to do next, etc?

We can always continue fleshing this out over time, etc.

Kindly,

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-03 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 10:39:39PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:14:11PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:09:49PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
   On 2 September 2014 23:04, Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de wrote:
Can you write the missing sub-rule for the Test command
(the one that has to do with infostore)?
   
   Will do in the next half-hour or so.
  
  Great.  This is the last missing piece of the conditional commands.
  I'm eager to get over with the basic parsing description draft so
  I can try some practical things.  :-)
 
 Are we OK to lay a steak in the ground, and for me to merge
 document-parsing to master?

I don't really care whether it's in the master or elsewhere.

 Then we can consider what to do next, etc?

I'd like to gather some experience with splitting functions into
interface and implementation before tackling the real parser.

 We can always continue fleshing this out over time, etc.

Yes.

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

-- 

Dominik Vogt



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-02 Thread Dan Espen
Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes:

 Just found this comment in CMD_Test:

   /*
* unfortunately, GetNextSimpleOption is
* * broken, does not accept quoted empty 
*/

 Actually, GetNextSimpleOption() is _not_ broken.  The parsing
 library guarantees never to return empty tokens.  This is a
 feature, albeit a questionable one.

The CVS command you are looking for is annotate.

1.107 (migo 13-Aug-05): /* unfortunately, GetNextSimpleOption is

Could be that it was broken when the comment was written.

-- 
Dan Espen



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-02 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 10:55:43PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote:
 By the way, does anybody know what this infostore stuff is
 about?

https://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm-workers@fvwm.org/msg02706.html

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-02 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:00:13PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 10:55:43PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote:
  By the way, does anybody know what this infostore stuff is
  about?
 
 https://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm-workers@fvwm.org/msg02706.html

Thenks.  Can you write the missing sub-rule for the Test command
(the one that has to do with infostore)?

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

-- 

Dominik Vogt



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-02 Thread Dan Espen
Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes:

 On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 05:48:05PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
 Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes:
 
  Just found this comment in CMD_Test:
 
 /*
  * unfortunately, GetNextSimpleOption is
  * * broken, does not accept quoted empty 
  */
 
  Actually, GetNextSimpleOption() is _not_ broken.  The parsing
  library guarantees never to return empty tokens.  This is a
  feature, albeit a questionable one.
 
 The CVS command you are looking for is annotate.
 
 1.107 (migo 13-Aug-05): /* unfortunately, GetNextSimpleOption is

 Well, I thought it might be worhtwhile to mention it in public
 while we're working on the parser anyway.
  
 Could be that it was broken when the comment was written.

 No, it has always been this way.  This guarantee is used in many
 places where parsing is done, and when I coded
 GetNextSimpleOption() this was in there from the start (because it
 simply uses the same underlying implementation of the tokenisation
 functions as the rest of the parsing library).

 By the way, does anybody know what this infostore stuff is
 about?

Thomas does, but just in case he doesn't find his own email...

https://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm-workers@fvwm.org/msg02706.html

Seems reasonable, but I suggest, from infostore.h:

  MetaInfo *new_metainfo(void);
  void insert_metainfo(char *, char *);
  char *get_metainfo_value(const char *);
  void print_infostore(void);

the new, insert and get functions should all
use the word infostore, not metainfo.

-- 
Dan Espen



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-02 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 06:07:44PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
 Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes:
  By the way, does anybody know what this infostore stuff is
  about?
 
 Thomas does, but just in case he doesn't find his own email...
 
 https://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm-workers@fvwm.org/msg02706.html
 
 Seems reasonable, but I suggest, from infostore.h:
 
   MetaInfo *new_metainfo(void);
   void insert_metainfo(char *, char *);
   char *get_metainfo_value(const char *);
   void print_infostore(void);
 
 the new, insert and get functions should all
 use the word infostore, not metainfo.

Hm, is this in a stable release already?  I find the syntax a bit
clumsy (the name is not very intuitive, and $[infostore] is so
much to type), and if while we're rewriting the parser we might
clean that up as well.

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

-- 

Dominik Vogt



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-02 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:09:49PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
 On 2 September 2014 23:04, Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de wrote:
  Can you write the missing sub-rule for the Test command
  (the one that has to do with infostore)?
 
 Will do in the next half-hour or so.

Great.  This is the last missing piece of the conditional commands.
I'm eager to get over with the basic parsing description draft so
I can try some practical things.  :-)

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

-- 

Dominik Vogt



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-02 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:11:56PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 06:07:44PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
  Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes:
   By the way, does anybody know what this infostore stuff is
   about?
  
  Thomas does, but just in case he doesn't find his own email...
  
  https://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm-workers@fvwm.org/msg02706.html
  
  Seems reasonable, but I suggest, from infostore.h:
  
MetaInfo *new_metainfo(void);
void insert_metainfo(char *, char *);
char *get_metainfo_value(const char *);
void print_infostore(void);
  
  the new, insert and get functions should all
  use the word infostore, not metainfo.
 
 Hm, is this in a stable release already?  I find the syntax a bit
 clumsy (the name is not very intuitive, and $[infostore] is so
 much to type), and if while we're rewriting the parser we might
 clean that up as well.

I don't mind.  But I certainly _dislike_ the ridiculous tokens we have
now in terms of w.foo, i.foo, etc., etc.  I'd much rather we
deferred that part until much later on, as I've a few notes regarding
expansion versus information coming out of fvwm (and how that's stored
in fvwm, etc.)

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-02 Thread Dan Espen
Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes:

 On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 06:07:44PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
 Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes:
  By the way, does anybody know what this infostore stuff is
  about?
 
 Thomas does, but just in case he doesn't find his own email...
 
 https://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm-workers@fvwm.org/msg02706.html
 
 Seems reasonable, but I suggest, from infostore.h:
 
   MetaInfo *new_metainfo(void);
   void insert_metainfo(char *, char *);
   char *get_metainfo_value(const char *);
   void print_infostore(void);
 
 the new, insert and get functions should all
 use the word infostore, not metainfo.

 Hm, is this in a stable release already?  I find the syntax a bit
 clumsy (the name is not very intuitive, and $[infostore] is so
 much to type), and if while we're rewriting the parser we might
 clean that up as well.

We have SetEnv.
Does SetVar work for you?

All of 2.6 is stable.

-- 
Dan Espen



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-02 Thread Dan Espen
Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:

 On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:11:56PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 06:07:44PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
  Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes:
   By the way, does anybody know what this infostore stuff is
   about?
  
  Thomas does, but just in case he doesn't find his own email...
  
  https://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm-workers@fvwm.org/msg02706.html
  
  Seems reasonable, but I suggest, from infostore.h:
  
MetaInfo *new_metainfo(void);
void insert_metainfo(char *, char *);
char *get_metainfo_value(const char *);
void print_infostore(void);
  
  the new, insert and get functions should all
  use the word infostore, not metainfo.
 
 Hm, is this in a stable release already?  I find the syntax a bit
 clumsy (the name is not very intuitive, and $[infostore] is so
 much to type), and if while we're rewriting the parser we might
 clean that up as well.

 I don't mind.  But I certainly _dislike_ the ridiculous tokens we have
 now in terms of w.foo, i.foo, etc., etc.  I'd much rather we
 deferred that part until much later on, as I've a few notes regarding
 expansion versus information coming out of fvwm (and how that's stored
 in fvwm, etc.)

Just kibitzing here, but when I do re-factoring,
I like to start with consistent names.
I could see how changing names might cause git - cvs issues.

-- 
Dan Espen



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-02 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:15:44PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:11:56PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 06:07:44PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
   Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes:
By the way, does anybody know what this infostore stuff is
about?
   
   Thomas does, but just in case he doesn't find his own email...
   
   https://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm-workers@fvwm.org/msg02706.html
   
   Seems reasonable, but I suggest, from infostore.h:
   
 MetaInfo *new_metainfo(void);
 void insert_metainfo(char *, char *);
 char *get_metainfo_value(const char *);
 void print_infostore(void);
   
   the new, insert and get functions should all
   use the word infostore, not metainfo.
  
  Hm, is this in a stable release already?  I find the syntax a bit
  clumsy (the name is not very intuitive, and $[infostore] is so
  much to type), and if while we're rewriting the parser we might
  clean that up as well.
 
 I don't mind.  But I certainly _dislike_ the ridiculous tokens we have
 now in terms of w.foo, i.foo, etc., etc.

Agreed.

 I'd much rather we
 deferred that part until much later on, as I've a few notes regarding
 expansion versus information coming out of fvwm (and how that's stored
 in fvwm, etc.)

Yes, of course.  Expansion is a terrible mess right now and needs
to be cleaned up, and that will require much thought and planning.

I'd prefer to either make expansion much more similar to what
shells do (i.e. make the general syntax more shell-like) *or* to
do something completely different that does not interfere as much
with the parsing of the underlying shell (maybe easier to
understand and use).

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

-- 

Dominik Vogt



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-02 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 06:18:14PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
 Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes:
 
  On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 06:07:44PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
  Dominik Vogt dominik.v...@gmx.de writes:
   By the way, does anybody know what this infostore stuff is
   about?
  
  Thomas does, but just in case he doesn't find his own email...
  
  https://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm-workers@fvwm.org/msg02706.html
  
  Seems reasonable, but I suggest, from infostore.h:
  
MetaInfo *new_metainfo(void);
void insert_metainfo(char *, char *);
char *get_metainfo_value(const char *);
void print_infostore(void);
  
  the new, insert and get functions should all
  use the word infostore, not metainfo.
 
  Hm, is this in a stable release already?  I find the syntax a bit
  clumsy (the name is not very intuitive, and $[infostore] is so
  much to type), and if while we're rewriting the parser we might
  clean that up as well.
 
 We have SetEnv.
 Does SetVar work for you?

Of course, but it's closely related to parsing and command line
expansion.

 All of 2.6 is stable.

But 2.6.6 is not released.

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

-- 

Dominik Vogt



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-02 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 06:22:28PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
  I don't mind.  But I certainly _dislike_ the ridiculous tokens we have
  now in terms of w.foo, i.foo, etc., etc.  I'd much rather we
  deferred that part until much later on, as I've a few notes regarding
  expansion versus information coming out of fvwm (and how that's stored
  in fvwm, etc.)
 
 Just kibitzing here, but when I do re-factoring,
 I like to start with consistent names.

 I could see how changing names might cause git - cvs issues.

That's actually something I'd like to move as far into the future
as possible.  I'd rather start with all the changes that would not
prevent to push fixes in fvwm to the new code.  But eventually it
will happen.

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

-- 

Dominik Vogt



Re: GetNextSimpleOption is broken

2014-09-02 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:14:11PM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote:
 Great.  This is the last missing piece of the conditional commands.
 I'm eager to get over with the basic parsing description draft so
 I can try some practical things.  :-)

Done.

Heh, I've sneakily been starting a few things, but left it...

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not. -- Morrissey (Girl Least Likely To -- off of Viva Hate.)