Re: [fw-general] No announce for 1.7.3PL1
-- Colin Guthrie wrote
(on Tuesday, 27 January 2009, 09:39 AM +):
> While I believe the changes were minimal and also noted in the 1.7.3
> official release, would it not have made more sense to call this a
> 1.7.3.1 release? That way everything works as expected and is
> transparent etc.?
We use version_compare() within the website and release code in order to
determine the order of releases. version_compare() follows the
versioning schema of the PHP project itself. Additionally, since we are
looking at offering ZF via a PEAR channel, we need to follow this schema
to ensure compatibility with the PEAR installer. 1.7.3.1 is not a valid
naming schema for these tools, but 1.7.3pl1 is ("pl1" means "patch level
1", indicating it's a patched version of the 1.7.3 release).
BTW, version_compare's naming schema is as follows:
dev(el) < a(lpha) < b(eta) < RC < (stable) < p(l)
We got bit by this recently when we released a "PR" version -- meaning
"Preview Release", as version_compare() saw this as a patch level (and
thus 1.7.0PR1 was displaying above 1.7.0 on the download page). As a
result, the actual packages we create for preview releases in the future
will actually be alpha packages to ensure compatibility with the
toolsets.
--
Matthew Weier O'Phinney
Software Architect | matt...@zend.com
Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/
RE: [fw-general] No announce for 1.7.3PL1
We decided not to do a release announcement for patches. We've released them in the past for other packages like GData and didn't announce them then. Plus, there are no new features, bug fixes, etc., so it's not much of an announcement. :) If it would help avoid confusion, I can send a quick note to fw-general if we ever have to patch again. ,Wil > -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Colin Guthrie > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:39 AM > To: fw-general@lists.zend.com > Subject: [fw-general] No announce for 1.7.3PL1 > > Hi, > > Just wanted to point out that 1.7.3PL1 didn't seem to get a release > announcement. > > Also the Version.php file does not reflect that this is not the same > version as the original 1.7.3. > > While I believe the changes were minimal and also noted in the 1.7.3 > official release, would it not have made more sense to call this a > 1.7.3.1 release? That way everything works as expected and is > transparent etc.? > > Can't say I feel overly strongly about this, but figured it was worth > mentioning :) > > Col > > -- > > Colin Guthrie > gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie > http://colin.guthr.ie/ > > Day Job: >Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] > Open Source: >Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] >PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] >Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]
RE: [fw-general] No announce for 1.7.3PL1
>If it would help avoid confusion, I can send a quick note to fw-general if we >ever have to patch again. +1 -- Thorsten Suckow-Homberg http://www.siteartwork.de Sent with conjoon. Visit http://www.conjoon.de
Re: [fw-general] No announce for 1.7.3PL1
On 27 Jan 2009, at 17:01, Wil Sinclair wrote: We decided not to do a release announcement for patches. We've released them in the past for other packages like GData and didn't announce them then. Plus, there are no new features, bug fixes, etc., so it's not much of an announcement. :) If it would help avoid confusion, I can send a quick note to fw-general if we ever have to patch again. ,Wil If there are no new features or bug fixes or etc. then why was a patch release done? Calling it a patch release implies that something changed to me... I'd also appreciate a quick note to fw-general or announce if a patch is done again. Regards, Rob...
Re: [fw-general] No announce for 1.7.3PL1
2009/1/27 Rob Allen : > > On 27 Jan 2009, at 17:01, Wil Sinclair wrote: > >> We decided not to do a release announcement for patches. We've released >> them in the past for other packages like GData and didn't announce them >> then. Plus, there are no new features, bug fixes, etc., so it's not much of >> an announcement. :) If it would help avoid confusion, I can send a quick >> note to fw-general if we ever have to patch again. >> >> ,Wil > > If there are no new features or bug fixes or etc. then why was a patch > release done? Calling it a patch release implies that something changed to > me... > > I'd also appreciate a quick note to fw-general or announce if a patch is > done again. > > Regards, > > Rob... > A patch level can also mean that there were just some smaller issues fixed or it had to be released quickly because of security issues. So there is no need for an announce of changes because there are usually none. -- Currently developing a browsergame... http://www.p-game.de Trade - Expand - Fight
RE: [fw-general] No announce for 1.7.3PL1
It was released due to a missing 'require' in the ZendX_JQuery component. I'm sorry that I didn't send out an announcement, but I really didn't think that this was significant enough to warrant one. Given the community's reaction, I'm thinking that it wasn't significant enough to issue the patch in the first place. I'll review 'to patch or not to patch' decision in more detail going forward and announce it on the contributors, general, and announce lists if we patch a release in the future. ,Wil > -Original Message- > From: Rob Allen [mailto:r...@akrabat.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:40 AM > To: Zend Framework General > Subject: Re: [fw-general] No announce for 1.7.3PL1 > > > On 27 Jan 2009, at 17:01, Wil Sinclair wrote: > > > We decided not to do a release announcement for patches. We've > > released them in the past for other packages like GData and didn't > > announce them then. Plus, there are no new features, bug fixes, > > etc., so it's not much of an announcement. :) If it would help avoid > > confusion, I can send a quick note to fw-general if we ever have to > > patch again. > > > > ,Wil > > If there are no new features or bug fixes or etc. then why was a patch > release done? Calling it a patch release implies that something > changed to me... > > I'd also appreciate a quick note to fw-general or announce if a patch > is done again. > > Regards, > > Rob...
Re: [fw-general] No announce for 1.7.3PL1
On 27 Jan 2009, at 20:20, Wil Sinclair wrote: It was released due to a missing 'require' in the ZendX_JQuery component. I'm sorry that I didn't send out an announcement, but I really didn't think that this was significant enough to warrant one. Given the community's reaction, I'm thinking that it wasn't significant enough to issue the patch in the first place. I'll review 'to patch or not to patch' decision in more detail going forward and announce it on the contributors, general, and announce lists if we patch a release in the future. ,Wil Oh, I dunno. I'm about to use JQuery to compare with Dojo, so I'll collect pl1 before trying to get it working :) It's a shame that ZF doesn't have a change log or release notes page on the site, as that would have been the perfect place to have noted the difference been 1.7.3 and 1.7.3pl1. Regards, Rob...
RE: [fw-general] No announce for 1.7.3PL1
Wil Sinclair wrote: >I'll review 'to patch or not to patch' decision in more detail going forward and announce >it on the contributors, general, and announce lists if we patch a release in the future. Thank you. I can see how it could be useful. However, I also see how it would be hard to decide when to issue a patch and when not to. As this was not a normal activity, we can say we learned a lot from this "test". As my wife, (iso 9000) person, reminds me sometimes - there has been "corrective action taken". We can rest assured that there will be future consideration of patches and patch notices. That works for me - So thanks, Wil. Terre
