Re: [fw-general] Wiki broken?
* Christoph Löffler loeffler...@googlemail.com [130529 14:43]: Hello, I just had a look at http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV2/Zend+Framework+Git+Guide and I think it does not look normal. The wiki page content shows HTML elements. Is it only me having this view or is it a general problem which will be fixed? Same here! have fun -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS/CM d- s++: a+ C$ UBL*$ P++ L+ E W+++ N+ o-- K- w O- M- V-- PS++ PE++ Y PGP+++ t--- 5 X R++ tv- b+++ DI D G++ e* h r+++ y --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [fw-general] Wiki Spam
Perhaps someone should roll-back all of those edits in one action? Mike On 4/10/08, Wil Sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and so that the powers at be can properly asses Asses? Now, come on- we're not all that bad. :D I reviewed those edits a while back- they seem to have been made across many documents all at once. I believe this around the same time that Karol created this proposal: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Font+-+Karol+Babioch. There seems to have been a string substitution that affected a few proposals. I'm not sure how this happened- maybe a system error or Karol scripting something that he shouldn't have. I came to the conclusion that these weren't particularly malicious edits, and if Karol is guilty of anything it's creating placeholder proposals (please everyone, let's not do this) and inserting references to his own proposal in others. Generally it's extremely poor form to edit an author's proposal without his or her knowing. If there are any more recent or destructive errors, please let me know ASAP. Karol- if you're out there- do you know what happened? Thanks. ,Wil -- Michael B Allen PHP Active Directory SPNEGO SSO http://www.ioplex.com/
Re: [fw-general] Wiki Spam
Hy Michael, Everyone can do this for his own proposal... I reverted them for my 6 proposals already on 5.March and wrote Wil a message about the illegal editing. This sort of failure has already shown up about 3 times in past but until now there is no bugfix available for it. And as every proposal author get's an anouncement when his proposal is changed or is commented this should not be a real problem. Greetings Thomas Weidner, I18N Team Leader http://www.thomasweidner.com - Original Message - From: Michael B Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wil Sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Zend Framework fw-general@lists.zend.com Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [fw-general] Wiki Spam Perhaps someone should roll-back all of those edits in one action? Mike On 4/10/08, Wil Sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and so that the powers at be can properly asses Asses? Now, come on- we're not all that bad. :D I reviewed those edits a while back- they seem to have been made across many documents all at once. I believe this around the same time that Karol created this proposal: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Font+-+Karol+Babioch. There seems to have been a string substitution that affected a few proposals. I'm not sure how this happened- maybe a system error or Karol scripting something that he shouldn't have. I came to the conclusion that these weren't particularly malicious edits, and if Karol is guilty of anything it's creating placeholder proposals (please everyone, let's not do this) and inserting references to his own proposal in others. Generally it's extremely poor form to edit an author's proposal without his or her knowing. If there are any more recent or destructive errors, please let me know ASAP. Karol- if you're out there- do you know what happened? Thanks. ,Wil -- Michael B Allen PHP Active Directory SPNEGO SSO http://www.ioplex.com/
RE: [fw-general] Wiki Spam
I'll see if there is an easy administrative action to do this, but honestly when Thomas brought it up I didn't see it as worth spending much time on considering the pressures at the moment. Now that the 1.5 release is behind us, I'll try to see what I can do in no more than an hour. :) ,Wil -Original Message- From: Thomas Weidner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 12:07 PM To: Michael B Allen; Wil Sinclair Cc: Zend Framework Subject: Re: [fw-general] Wiki Spam Hy Michael, Everyone can do this for his own proposal... I reverted them for my 6 proposals already on 5.March and wrote Wil a message about the illegal editing. This sort of failure has already shown up about 3 times in past but until now there is no bugfix available for it. And as every proposal author get's an anouncement when his proposal is changed or is commented this should not be a real problem. Greetings Thomas Weidner, I18N Team Leader http://www.thomasweidner.com - Original Message - From: Michael B Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wil Sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Zend Framework fw-general@lists.zend.com Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [fw-general] Wiki Spam Perhaps someone should roll-back all of those edits in one action? Mike On 4/10/08, Wil Sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and so that the powers at be can properly asses Asses? Now, come on- we're not all that bad. :D I reviewed those edits a while back- they seem to have been made across many documents all at once. I believe this around the same time that Karol created this proposal: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Font+- +Karol+Babioch. There seems to have been a string substitution that affected a few proposals. I'm not sure how this happened- maybe a system error or Karol scripting something that he shouldn't have. I came to the conclusion that these weren't particularly malicious edits, and if Karol is guilty of anything it's creating placeholder proposals (please everyone, let's not do this) and inserting references to his own proposal in others. Generally it's extremely poor form to edit an author's proposal without his or her knowing. If there are any more recent or destructive errors, please let me know ASAP. Karol- if you're out there- do you know what happened? Thanks. ,Wil -- Michael B Allen PHP Active Directory SPNEGO SSO http://www.ioplex.com/
RE: [fw-general] Wiki Spam
and so that the powers at be can properly asses Asses? Now, come on- we're not all that bad. :D I reviewed those edits a while back- they seem to have been made across many documents all at once. I believe this around the same time that Karol created this proposal: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/Zend_Font+-+Karol+Babioch. There seems to have been a string substitution that affected a few proposals. I'm not sure how this happened- maybe a system error or Karol scripting something that he shouldn't have. I came to the conclusion that these weren't particularly malicious edits, and if Karol is guilty of anything it's creating placeholder proposals (please everyone, let's not do this) and inserting references to his own proposal in others. Generally it's extremely poor form to edit an author's proposal without his or her knowing. If there are any more recent or destructive errors, please let me know ASAP. Karol- if you're out there- do you know what happened? Thanks. ,Wil
Re: [fw-general] wiki
Never mind, it's up again. Had a flat-line for a moment. Best, Andries Seutens http://andries.systray.be Andries Seutens schreef: Hi, could someone restart confluence please? Best, Gecontroleerd op virussen door de JOJO Secure Gateway. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1223 - Release Date: 13/01/2008 20:23 Gecontroleerd op virussen door de JOJO Secure Gateway.
RE: [fw-general] wiki
Hey all, I would highly recommend waiting at least 5-10 minutes before mailing the list about any of the tools being down. I've been restarting the tools relatively often lately because I'm preparing some infrastructure improvements in time for 1.5. While it's true that I could do these tasks a bit more gracefully, it's also true that I have a lot of other stuff to do so quick and dirty has been winning out lately. ;) BTW, the restart that triggered this message installed a bunch of language packs in the wiki. This primarily means we Americans won't have to look at our 'favourites' list all the time ;), but if you live somewhere else and prefer your own spellings/language you can always set your locale in the preferences. The translations in the issue tracker were also updated. Please let me know if you see any issues that might be related to this update. Thanks! ,Wil -Original Message- From: Andries Seutens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 2:38 AM To: Zend Framework General Subject: Re: [fw-general] wiki Never mind, it's up again. Had a flat-line for a moment. Best, Andries Seutens http://andries.systray.be Andries Seutens schreef: Hi, could someone restart confluence please? Best, - --- Gecontroleerd op virussen door de JOJO Secure Gateway. - --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1223 - Release Date: 13/01/2008 20:23
Re: [fw-general] wiki
Wil Sinclair wrote: Hey all, I would highly recommend waiting at least 5-10 minutes before mailing the list about any of the tools being down. I've been restarting the tools relatively often lately because I'm preparing some infrastructure improvements in time for 1.5. While it's true that I could do these tasks a bit more gracefully, it's also true that I have a lot of other stuff to do so quick and dirty has been winning out lately. ;) Wil, are there any plans to upgrade JIRA to version 3.8? I have just made a typo in a issue comment (incorrectly ending a tag code, so everything below it just got messed up) [1]. JIRA offers editable comments from version 3.8 up if the devs speak the truth [2]. It would be great if we could edit our own texts just as we can edit the issues. [1] http://framework.zend.com/issues/browse/ZF-2429 [2] http://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRA-1100 -- Michał Minicki aka Martel Valgoerad | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://aie.pl/martel.asc =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Idleness is not doing nothing. Idleness is being free to do anything. -- Floyd Dell
Re: [fw-general] Wiki is dead
Hi Guys, It's down again? Andries Seutens http://andries.systray.be Wil Sinclair schreef: It's working now. That was an unplanned outage due to a backup that seems to have consumed all the memory, but I will be taking the server down for upgrades of both JIRA and Confluence in the next few days. I'll send a mail to the list giving everyone a few hours' notice. It shouldn't take more than an hour or so. ,Wil -Original Message- From: Elisamuel Resto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:09 PM To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: [fw-general] Wiki is dead Lovely greeting when I go to see data in the wiki: Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET /wiki/display/ZFDEV/Home. Reason: Error reading from remote server Gecontroleerd op virussen door de JOJO Secure Gateway.
Re: [fw-general] Wiki is dead
Sorry for the downtime. It's up again now. Thanks for the report! :) Elisamuel Resto wrote: Lovely greeting when I go to see data in the wiki: Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET /wiki/display/ZFDEV/Home. Reason: Error reading from remote server
RE: [fw-general] Wiki is dead
It's working now. That was an unplanned outage due to a backup that seems to have consumed all the memory, but I will be taking the server down for upgrades of both JIRA and Confluence in the next few days. I'll send a mail to the list giving everyone a few hours' notice. It shouldn't take more than an hour or so. ,Wil -Original Message- From: Elisamuel Resto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 6:09 PM To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: [fw-general] Wiki is dead Lovely greeting when I go to see data in the wiki: Proxy Error The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET /wiki/display/ZFDEV/Home. Reason: Error reading from remote server
RE: [fw-general] Wiki down...
Sorry for the renewed instability, guys. Basically, we seem to have a thrashing problem that I can mostly prevent by making more resources available to the apps and database, but only to the limits of the hardware resources- at some point either the java apps or the database get overloaded in one way or another and start racking up app response times. With longer response times, we get more simultaneous requests/open connections which makes slows response times and. . . you see where this is going. This week has seen somewhat more traffic on the site, so it's been particularly bad. I'm continuing to fine-tune things on this hardware configuration, but please bear with us while we work towards a better and longer-term solution. This is a high priority and we look forward to having a more stable environment soon. Looking on the bright side of things, this is another clear indication of the growing popularity and maturity (lots of resolved bug reports) of framework. ;) ,Wil From: Tobias Gies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:35 AM To: Zend Framework General Subject: [fw-general] Wiki down... ...yet again. C'mon, give it a kick in the butt please.
Re: [fw-general] Wiki down...
class Happy_Community { function Zend_Framework_WikiandJira { $server = $this-getActualServer(); for ($X = 1; $X maxInvestment; ++$X) { $serverfarm[$X] = clone($server); } return $serverfarm; // -- here's your problem... instead of serverfarm u used only server :-))) } } It's frustrating to have feedback on opened issues and not being able to write it... I hope you guys will soon find a solution. Greetings Thomas - Original Message - From: Wil Sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tobias Gies [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Zend Framework General fw-general@lists.zend.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:20 PM Subject: RE: [fw-general] Wiki down... Sorry for the renewed instability, guys. Basically, we seem to have a thrashing problem that I can mostly prevent by making more resources available to the apps and database, but only to the limits of the hardware resources- at some point either the java apps or the database get overloaded in one way or another and start racking up app response times. With longer response times, we get more simultaneous requests/open connections which makes slows response times and. . . you see where this is going. This week has seen somewhat more traffic on the site, so it's been particularly bad. I'm continuing to fine-tune things on this hardware configuration, but please bear with us while we work towards a better and longer-term solution. This is a high priority and we look forward to having a more stable environment soon. Looking on the bright side of things, this is another clear indication of the growing popularity and maturity (lots of resolved bug reports) of framework. ;) ,Wil From: Tobias Gies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:35 AM To: Zend Framework General Subject: [fw-general] Wiki down... ...yet again. C'mon, give it a kick in the butt please.
Re: [fw-general] Wiki down?
Looks like it's working from my end; maybe someone else restarted it, or it was just being slow? Best regards, Darby Pádraic Brady wrote: The wiki has broken all records in staying up, but has fallen at the last hurdle ;). P Pádraic Brady http://blog.astrumfutura.com http://www.patternsforphp.com OpenID Europe Foundation Member-Subscriber http://www.openideurope.eu/ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48256/*http://travel.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFhN2hucjlpBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNncm91cHMEc2xrA2VtYWlsLW5jbQ--on Yahoo! Travel.
Re: [fw-general] Wiki down?
Darby Felton schreef: Looks like it's working from my end; maybe someone else restarted it, or it was just being slow? Best regards, Darby Pádraic Brady wrote: The wiki has broken all records in staying up, but has fallen at the last hurdle ;). P Pádraic Brady http://blog.astrumfutura.com http://www.patternsforphp.com OpenID Europe Foundation Member-Subscriber http://www.openideurope.eu/ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48256/*http://travel.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFhN2hucjlpBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNncm91cHMEc2xrA2VtYWlsLW5jbQ--on Yahoo! Travel. Yes, it's working again. It was down this morning, when all you americans were sleeping ;). Best, -- Andries Seutens http://andries.systray.be Gecontroleerd op virussen door de JOJO Secure Gateway.
RE: [fw-general] Wiki down?
I see what it is from the log files. The wiki is still up; we're just running out of connections on the mysql side under load. Fixing it now. . . ,Wil -Original Message- From: Andries Seutens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:01 AM To: Darby Felton Cc: Pádraic Brady; Zend Framework Generalmysql Subject: Re: [fw-general] Wiki down? Darby Felton schreef: Looks like it's working from my end; maybe someone else restarted it, or it was just being slow? Best regards, Darby Pádraic Brady wrote: The wiki has broken all records in staying up, but has fallen at the last hurdle ;). P Pádraic Brady http://blog.astrumfutura.com http://www.patternsforphp.com OpenID Europe Foundation Member-Subscriber http://www.openideurope.eu/ - --- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48256/*http://travel.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oD MTFhN2hucjlpBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNncm91cHMEc2xrA2VtYWlsLW5jb Q--on Yahoo! Travel. Yes, it's working again. It was down this morning, when all you americans were sleeping ;). Best, -- Andries Seutens http://andries.systray.be
Re: [fw-general] Wiki and JIRA down
Hmm, down again. This is a real setback. I know, you're busy, but guys, you should really do something with it, 'coz we cannot work :S Ádám
Re: [fw-general] Wiki and JIRA down
down again :( 2007/8/17, Mike Fern [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 8/17/07, Jack Sleight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Jack Again? This time I find myself lucky to have the pdf version downloaded :) Cheers, Mike
Re: [fw-general] Wiki and JIRA down
-- Tobias Gies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Saturday, 18 August 2007, 10:25 AM +0200): down again :( Back up. 2007/8/17, Mike Fern [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 8/17/07, Jack Sleight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Jack Again? This time I find myself lucky to have the pdf version downloaded :) -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney PHP Developer| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zend - The PHP Company | http://www.zend.com/
Re: [fw-general] Wiki and JIRA down
On 8/17/07, Jack Sleight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Jack Again? This time I find myself lucky to have the pdf version downloaded :) Cheers, Mike
Re: [fw-general] Wiki and JIRA down again
Up and running again, thanks for the report! Best regards, Darby Jack Sleight wrote:
Re: [fw-general] Wiki and Jira are down again =(
-- Sergey Belov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Friday, 03 August 2007, 03:06 AM -0700): Wiki and Jira are down again =( Restart them, please. They're back up. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney PHP Developer| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zend - The PHP Company | http://www.zend.com/
Re: [fw-general] Wiki down
[22.07.2007 22:23] Thomas Weidner wrote: Still down :-( How about a clock timer from walmart ? Reset the server's power all 4 hours ;-) Wouldn't it be easier to give something in the Israel office shell access to the webserver? They are awake while California is sleeping. Thomas nico
Re: [fw-general] Wiki down
Still down :-( How about a clock timer from walmart ? Reset the server's power all 4 hours ;-) Thomas - Original Message - From: Jack Sleight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zend Framework General List fw-general@lists.zend.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 4:00 PM Subject: [fw-general] Wiki down again :( -- Jack
Re: [fw-general] Wiki down
But access to an crashed server which is unavaiable is not possible or necessary. They need access to the power-plug of the server ;-) Anyway... it's frustrating not being able to close / comment issues, not work on new ideas or verify existing proposals for work. Another day which is over without being able to work on my proposals... I hope they find the problems soon... Thomas - Original Message - From: Nico Edtinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Weidner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Zend Framework General List fw-general@lists.zend.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [fw-general] Wiki down [22.07.2007 22:23] Thomas Weidner wrote: Still down :-( How about a clock timer from walmart ? Reset the server's power all 4 hours ;-) Wouldn't it be easier to give something in the Israel office shell access to the webserver? They are awake while California is sleeping. Thomas nico
Re: [fw-general] Wiki down
On 7/22/07, Thomas Weidner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still down :-( How about a clock timer from walmart ? Reset the server's power all 4 hours ;-) Walmart is evil. I doubt the sign a CLA and then the license of the timer is probably not so BSD-like. :D Till
RE: [fw-general] Wiki...
Earlier this week I resolved the most major errors in the wiki software. There were several mail accounts configured, with invalid hostnames. There is no reason I know that we should support any mail accounts in our wiki; it's a feature of Confluence that we don't use. So I deleted these bogus accounts and the exceptions in the log reduced by thousands. But there is apparently another problem that is causing the wiki to go down, although less frequently. I haven't found out what this problem is yet. Regards, Bill Karwin -Original Message- From: Graham Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Anderson Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:14 AM To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: [fw-general] Wiki... Is once again visiting the great bit bucket in the sky... This seems always to happen between certain times, could this be related to some other back-end operation during the night, or is it just some tomcat/confluence issue?
Re: [fw-general] Wiki / Jira down again
Whats your insert? :D 2007/7/14, Thomas Weidner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wiki Jira are one again down... Maybe we should start a lottery ? The chances are 50/50... who want's to play ? ;-) Greetings Thomas I18N Team Leader
Re: [fw-general] Wiki / Jira down again
Better yet, we should create a system, based on the ZF of course, where CLA members have a chance to be part of the Wiki is down again pool. Each member can select a date and time slot, if the wiki goes down in their time slot.. Free T-Shirt. Pool is then reset for the next Wiki crash. You up for that Zend ;) -ralph Thomas Weidner wrote: Wiki Jira are one again down... Maybe we should start a lottery ? The chances are 50/50... who want's to play ? ;-) Greetings Thomas I18N Team Leader
Re: [fw-general] Wiki / Jira down again
Also make a tutorial to that and eVry1 is happy :P When is it approx finished? What License? BSD? ^^ regards 2007/7/14, Ralph Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Better yet, we should create a system, based on the ZF of course, where CLA members have a chance to be part of the Wiki is down again pool. Each member can select a date and time slot, if the wiki goes down in their time slot.. Free T-Shirt. Pool is then reset for the next Wiki crash. You up for that Zend ;) -ralph Thomas Weidner wrote: Wiki Jira are one again down... Maybe we should start a lottery ? The chances are 50/50... who want's to play ? ;-) Greetings Thomas I18N Team Leader
Re: [fw-general] Wiki / Jira down again
Generally it should be very easy to handle this... Write a program to check if wiki is online, and if the check fails kill the server and restart it. Should be a one hour job to do this. PS: 10 eur that it will crash once more until monday. ;-))) Greetings Thomas - Original Message - From: ViShap [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ralph Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Thomas Weidner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; fw-general@lists.zend.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [fw-general] Wiki / Jira down again Also make a tutorial to that and eVry1 is happy :P When is it approx finished? What License? BSD? ^^ regards 2007/7/14, Ralph Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Better yet, we should create a system, based on the ZF of course, where CLA members have a chance to be part of the Wiki is down again pool. Each member can select a date and time slot, if the wiki goes down in their time slot.. Free T-Shirt. Pool is then reset for the next Wiki crash. You up for that Zend ;) -ralph Thomas Weidner wrote: Wiki Jira are one again down... Maybe we should start a lottery ? The chances are 50/50... who want's to play ? ;-) Greetings Thomas I18N Team Leader
Re: [fw-general] Wiki / Jira down again
ack :D 2007/7/14, Thomas Weidner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Generally it should be very easy to handle this... Write a program to check if wiki is online, and if the check fails kill the server and restart it. Should be a one hour job to do this. PS: 10 eur that it will crash once more until monday. ;-))) Greetings Thomas - Original Message - From: ViShap [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ralph Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Thomas Weidner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; fw-general@lists.zend.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [fw-general] Wiki / Jira down again Also make a tutorial to that and eVry1 is happy :P When is it approx finished? What License? BSD? ^^ regards 2007/7/14, Ralph Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Better yet, we should create a system, based on the ZF of course, where CLA members have a chance to be part of the Wiki is down again pool. Each member can select a date and time slot, if the wiki goes down in their time slot.. Free T-Shirt. Pool is then reset for the next Wiki crash. You up for that Zend ;) -ralph Thomas Weidner wrote: Wiki Jira are one again down... Maybe we should start a lottery ? The chances are 50/50... who want's to play ? ;-) Greetings Thomas I18N Team Leader
Re: [fw-general] Wiki up but JIRA only halfway
I can confirm this, and its major. I just posted an issue and jira and my description got blown away. Hopefully it resides in a DB somewhere. If its not there, take JIRA down for the time being (until fixed) so that people aren't submitting empty issues. Simon Mundy wrote: Hi Darby I hope this isn't indicative of something more sinister, but I can't see any comments for any issue I've been browsing on JIRA. Can you (or anyone else) confirm that you can see comments on JIRA issues? Help!!! -- Simon Mundy | Director | PEPTOLAB 202/258 Flinders Lane | Melbourne | Victoria | Australia | 3000 Voice +61 (0) 3 9654 4324 | Mobile 0438 046 061 | Fax +61 (0) 3 9654 4124 http://www.peptolab.com http://www.peptolab.com/
RE: [fw-general] Wiki up but JIRA only halfway
I havn't make any change to the old instance of JIRA. I have tried to create a second instance of Tomcat on a different port, with an instance of the current version of JIRA. And of course it was using a separate MySQL database. I do see errors in the logs of the old JIRA instance that make it seem like it's having trouble rendering issues in HTML. I would guess that all the data still exists in the database, but it isn't rendering in the web presentation. I'll make sure we have a backup of the database. All I can do at this point is try to get support from Atlassian, but I assume they will not respond until Monday. Bill -Original Message- From: Ralph Schindler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 2:55 PM To: Simon Mundy Cc: Darby Felton; Zend Framework General Subject: Re: [fw-general] Wiki up but JIRA only halfway I can confirm this, and its major. I just posted an issue and jira and my description got blown away. Hopefully it resides in a DB somewhere. If its not there, take JIRA down for the time being (until fixed) so that people aren't submitting empty issues. Simon Mundy wrote: Hi Darby I hope this isn't indicative of something more sinister, but I can't see any comments for any issue I've been browsing on JIRA. Can you (or anyone else) confirm that you can see comments on JIRA issues? Help!!! -- Simon Mundy | Director | PEPTOLAB 202/258 Flinders Lane | Melbourne | Victoria | Australia | 3000 Voice +61 (0) 3 9654 4324 | Mobile 0438 046 061 | Fax +61 (0) 3 9654 4124 http://www.peptolab.com http://www.peptolab.com/
RE: [fw-general] Wiki up but JIRA only halfway
The errors in the log match the symptoms reported in this bug: http://jira.atlassian.com/browse/JRA-9153 Restarting the server seems to have fixed that problem. We'll see what Atlassian can do to help with the other stability problems. Bill
Re: [fw-general] Wiki / Jira down again
On 7/14/07, Ralph Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better yet, we should create a system, based on the ZF of course, where CLA members have a chance to be part of the Wiki is down again pool. Each member can select a date and time slot, if the wiki goes down in their time slot.. Free T-Shirt. Pool is then reset for the next Wiki crash. You up for that Zend ;) +1 Where do I sign up? :) In all seriousness - I know that Jira runs pretty well. I've been on projects where it has been in use for (like) forever. I hope the Jira people can help fix this soon. (It's up now! :O) Till
Re: [fw-general] Wiki - Killedki - Resetki
Sure would be interesting to find out what the problem is. One thing is for sure: a server that's down most of the time is a bad thing no-one wants. First one to build a ZF-based Wiki wins! ;) But seriously, it would be cool if a ZF-based Wiki project was created. It might serve as an example of best practice application programming with Zend Framework. Using only ZF components (where available), it would be incredibly educational! On 30 Jun 2007, at 16:36, Thomas Weidner wrote: I would propose to use ZF ;-))) Would be interesting to know where the problems are related to... Wiki ? Jira ? Confluence ? Hardware ? Biddy ? Apprentice ? Greetings Thomas - Original Message - From: Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Weidner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; fw- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: RE: [fw-general] Wiki - Killedki - Resetki Next time we won't use Java :'( Not sure if Bill had a chance to upgrade it yet. We'll look into it. -Original Message- From: Thomas Weidner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:37 AM To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: [fw-general] Wiki - Killedki - Resetki Hy... once again wiki down since 2 hours... What's about a clock timer ??? Brute-Force-Reset all 2 hours :-))) Greetings Thomas
Re: [fw-general] Wiki - Killedki - Resetki
On Jun 30, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Jurriën Stutterheim wrote: First one to build a ZF-based Wiki wins! ;) But seriously, it would be cool if a ZF-based Wiki project was created. It might serve as an example of best practice application programming with Zend Framework. Using only ZF components (where available), it would be incredibly educational! Someone has: http://files.zend.com/qedwiki There's a description on the framework home page: http://framework.zend.com -- Willie Alberty, Owner Spenlen Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.spenlen.com/
Re: [fw-general] Wiki - Killedki - Resetki
On 6/30/07, Willie Alberty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 30, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Jurriën Stutterheim wrote: First one to build a ZF-based Wiki wins! ;) But seriously, it would be cool if a ZF-based Wiki project was created. It might serve as an example of best practice application programming with Zend Framework. Using only ZF components (where available), it would be incredibly educational! Someone has: http://files.zend.com/qedwiki There's a description on the framework home page: http://framework.zend.com Yeah, that has been on the frontpage for forever. I am not sure though - has anyone used it or is available anywhere? Cheers, Till
Re: [fw-general] Wiki - Killedki - Resetki
here http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/qedwiki/ but maybe you need a ibm ID for tring it. 2007/7/1, till [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 6/30/07, Willie Alberty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 30, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Jurriën Stutterheim wrote: First one to build a ZF-based Wiki wins! ;) But seriously, it would be cool if a ZF-based Wiki project was created. It might serve as an example of best practice application programming with Zend Framework. Using only ZF components (where available), it would be incredibly educational! Someone has: http://files.zend.com/qedwiki There's a description on the framework home page: http://framework.zend.com Yeah, that has been on the frontpage for forever. I am not sure though - has anyone used it or is available anywhere? Cheers, Till -- 广州市一方信息咨询有限公司 地址:广州市 江南大道中 穗花村 三巷12号204 邮编:510245 电话:020-39738561 020-39738571 传真:020-84476279 网站:www.i-fang.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [fw-general] Wiki - Killedki - Resetki
Bill can probably attest more to the problems. I think some of them are just application problems which might be solved once we upgrade to the latest versions. We didn't have a lot of bandwidth to do that but will look into fixing it now that we're going to ship. Btw, it'd be great to see a ZF-based Wiki. In general, it's important that the ZF have some sample apps. I have something going on around a simple blog but no ETA on that yet. But in general, I think such sample apps don't necessarily need to have all the latest and greatest features but if they are done well enough to act as samples that people can understand we'll see more and more copy-on-write going on and have the community start building more fully featured apps on top of them. Andi -Original Message- From: Thomas Weidner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 7:36 AM To: Andi Gutmans; fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: Re: [fw-general] Wiki - Killedki - Resetki I would propose to use ZF ;-))) Would be interesting to know where the problems are related to... Wiki ? Jira ? Confluence ? Hardware ? Biddy ? Apprentice ? Greetings Thomas - Original Message - From: Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Weidner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; fw-general@lists.zend.com Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: RE: [fw-general] Wiki - Killedki - Resetki Next time we won't use Java :'( Not sure if Bill had a chance to upgrade it yet. We'll look into it. -Original Message- From: Thomas Weidner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:37 AM To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: [fw-general] Wiki - Killedki - Resetki Hy... once again wiki down since 2 hours... What's about a clock timer ??? Brute-Force-Reset all 2 hours :-))) Greetings Thomas
Re: [fw-general] Wiki Jira down
We should rewrite the wiki with ZF ;-) Wiki is down everydays :-( Fabien - Original Message - From: Pádraic Brady To: Bill Karwin Cc: Zend Framework General Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [fw-general] Wiki Jira down Ralph and I will have to delay our anxiously anticipated Throwdown. For those who bought tickets to the event there are no refunds! ;) Ralph, I'll check out that wiki page tomorrow when it's up. Paddy Pádraic Brady http://blog.astrumfutura.com http://www.patternsforphp.com - Original Message From: Bill Karwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 9:11:15 PM Subject: RE: [fw-general] Wiki Jira down I am going to work on Wiki Jira today to try to upgrade the software. They may be up and down from time to time. But I haven't started working on them yet, so they are currently down on their own accord. :-) Bill -Original Message- From: Thomas Weidner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:58 PM To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: [fw-general] Wiki Jira down Hy... once again is the wiki jira server down. Please pay the electricity bill for the servers ;-)) Waiting for restart... Greetings Thomas I18N Team Leader -- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!
Re: [fw-general] Wiki Jira down
Thomas Weidner schreef: Hy... once again is the wiki jira server down. Please pay the electricity bill for the servers ;-)) Waiting for restart... Greetings Thomas I18N Team Leader Lol! Just for the heck of it, i'm going to turn the wikification off for a few days, and see if it helps ... although that'd be lame, i'll give it a shot. Best, Andriesss
RE: [fw-general] Wiki Jira down
I am going to work on Wiki Jira today to try to upgrade the software. They may be up and down from time to time. But I haven't started working on them yet, so they are currently down on their own accord. :-) Bill -Original Message- From: Thomas Weidner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:58 PM To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: [fw-general] Wiki Jira down Hy... once again is the wiki jira server down. Please pay the electricity bill for the servers ;-)) Waiting for restart... Greetings Thomas I18N Team Leader
Re: [fw-general] Wiki watcher suggestion
On Friday 22 June 2007 02:35, Alexander Johannesen wrote: Ouch! That's another way of saying 'defeat'. :) We use Confluence and JIRA in symbiosis here at work and never have these kinds of problems, so I can at least vouch for the robustness of those software packages. Could there be some plugin gone avry, or something else entirely? Surely the logs would be helpful to have a peak at. Alex More an interim measure was my thinking with the conrtab one liner I offered. If it was quick and simple to troubleshoot the fault, surely that would have been done by now as the Wiki has been stalling for some time. Regardless, I don't see the harm in just generating an alert when it's down as also suggested. In fact, I would say that is a desirable thing to do for any web site. Mark
Re: [fw-general] Wiki watcher suggestion
-- Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Friday, 22 June 2007, 02:09 AM +0100): I'd like to suggest a quick and dirty one liner solution to ease the pain. Something like this in the server's root crontab: 0,15,30,45 * * * * result=`wget --tries 1 --server-response --timeout 60 http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV/Home 21 | grep 'HTTP/'`; [[ ${result} == HTTP/1.1 200 OK ]] || ( echo Wiki site down. ${result} reported. Attempting restart; /etc/init.d/apache2 restart ) While I too feel your pain (I have to work with confluence and jira regularly), the problem is that it's not as simple as that. These tools run off of Tomcat, and need to be shut down in a particular order, and restarted in a particular order as well. Additionally, they don't always shut down correctly, which is a condition that can only be corrected by manual intervention. An automated script such as this could actually do more damage than good. Be assured, the framework team does have this issue as a priority prior to the 1.0.0 release; it's just a matter of time. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney PHP Developer| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zend - The PHP Company | http://www.zend.com/
Re: [fw-general] Wiki watcher suggestion
On Friday 22 June 2007 12:38, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: While I too feel your pain (I have to work with confluence and jira regularly), the problem is that it's not as simple as that. These tools run off of Tomcat, and need to be shut down in a particular order, and restarted in a particular order as well. Additionally, they don't always shut down correctly, which is a condition that can only be corrected by manual intervention. An automated script such as this could actually do more damage than good. Be assured, the framework team does have this issue as a priority prior to the 1.0.0 release; it's just a matter of time. Thank you for the explanation Matthew. That just leaves the notification argument in my original post but I sense that's not too popular either. It was only a thought anyway. Regards, Mark
Re: [fw-general] Wiki watcher suggestion
On 22/06/07, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for the explanation Matthew. That just leaves the notification argument in my original post but I sense that's not too popular either. It was only a thought anyway. Regards, Mark Well, I've learned something from this, so thanks for sharing your thought ;-) -- Regards, Martin Martinov
Re: [fw-general] Wiki watcher suggestion
On 6/22/07, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 0,15,30,45 * * * * result=`wget --tries 1 --server-response --timeout 60 http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV/Home 21 | grep 'HTTP/'`; [[ ${result} == HTTP/1.1 200 OK ]] || ( echo Wiki site down. ${result} reported. Attempting restart; /etc/init.d/apache2 restart ) Ouch! That's another way of saying 'defeat'. :) We use Confluence and JIRA in symbiosis here at work and never have these kinds of problems, so I can at least vouch for the robustness of those software packages. Could there be some plugin gone avry, or something else entirely? Surely the logs would be helpful to have a peak at. Alex -- --- Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchymist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic Maps -- http://shelter.nu/blog/
Re: [fw-general] Wiki manual updated - request for XSLT help
Hello, I'm still facing some issues with the xslt below. I'll try to explain with an example: table titleDate Parts/title tgroup cols=2 thead row entryDate Part/entry entryExplanation/entry /row /thead tbody row entry ulink url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_Time;Timestamp/ulink /entry entry UNIX timestamp, expressed in seconds elapsed since January 1st, 1970 00:00:00 GMT/UTC. /entry /row row entry ulink url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar;Year/ulink /entry entryGregorian calendar year (e.g. 2006)/entry /row /tbody /tgroup /table This will produce the following output (using the attached xsl): || Date Part || Explanation || | [Timestamp|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_Time] | UNIX timestamp, expressed in seconds elapsed since January 1st, 1970 00:00:00 GMT/UTC. | | [Year|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar] | Gregorian calendar year (e.g. 2006) | As you can see: the line UNIX timestamp, expressed in seconds elapsed is displayed on a new line. This messes up the wiki formatting, because it has to be on a single line. Any clues on how to fix this? Best, Andriesss Martel Valgoerad schreef: Andries Seutens wrote: Okay, my first issue is that i need to convert docbook tables to wiki tables. It's not so hard. Remember XSLT is a declarative language (as opposed to imperative), so everything you need is to declare templates for each element parser is going to find. xsl:template match=* xsl:apply-templates select=table/ /xsl:template xsl:template match=table xsl:text- /xsl:textxsl:value-of select=title / xsl:text#xd;/xsl:text xsl:apply-templates select=tgroup/ /xsl:template xsl:template match=tgroup xsl:apply-templates select=thead/ xsl:apply-templates select=tbody/ /xsl:template etc. I'm attaching two files - one with your XML and the other with a XSLT solution. I have more outstanding issues, but let's start with this one, as it has been bugging me for a long time :). I guess that with this little help I provided, you will probably be able to solve every other problem on your own ;) Andriesss ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? xsl:stylesheet version=1.0 xmlns:xsl=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform; xmlns:xs=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; xmlns:fn=http://www.w3.org/2005/xpath-functions; xsl:output method=text version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 / xsl:preserve-space elements=programlisting / xsl:strip-space elements=* / !-- Chapter -- xsl:template match=chapter {zone-template-instance:ZFDOCDEV:manual-template} {zone-data:content} xsl:apply-templates/ {zone-data} {zone-template-instance} /xsl:template !-- Chapter title -- xsl:template match=chapter/title h1. xsl:value-of select=./ /xsl:template !-- Section heading level 1 -- xsl:template match=sect1/title h2. xsl:value-of select=./ xsl:text#10;/xsl:text /xsl:template !-- Section heading level 2 -- xsl:template match=sect2/title h3. xsl:value-of select=./ xsl:text#10;/xsl:text /xsl:template !-- Section heading level 3 -- xsl:template match=sect3/title h4. xsl:value-of select=./ xsl:text#10;/xsl:text /xsl:template !-- Section heading level 4 -- xsl:template match=sect4/title h5. xsl:value-of select=./ xsl:text#10;/xsl:text /xsl:template !-- Section heading level 5 (maximum level) -- xsl:template match=sect4/title h6. xsl:value-of select=./ xsl:text#10;/xsl:text /xsl:template !-- Itemized list -- xsl:template match=itemizedlist xsl:text#10;/xsl:text xsl:apply-templates/ xsl:text#10;/xsl:text /xsl:template !-- List item -- xsl:template match=listitem * xsl:apply-templates/ /xsl:template xsl:template match=example xsl:apply-templates/ {panel} xsl:text#10;/xsl:text /xsl:template !-- Example title -- xsl:template match=example/title {panel:title=Example: xsl:value-of select=./|borderStyle=dashed| borderColor=#ccc| titleBGColor=#F7D6C1| bgColor=#CE} /xsl:template !-- Important notice -- xsl:template match=note xsl:text#10;/xsl:text {tip:icon=true|title=Note: xsl:value-of select=title/} xsl:apply-templates/ {tip} xsl:text#10;/xsl:text /xsl:template !-- Useful tip -- xsl:template match=tip xsl:text#10;/xsl:text {tip:icon=true|title=Tip: xsl:value-of select=title/} xsl:apply-templates/ {tip} xsl:text#10;/xsl:text /xsl:template !-- Code snippet -- xsl:template match=programlisting xsl:text#10;/xsl:text {code:xsl:value-of select=@role/} xsl:apply-templates/ {code} xsl:text#10;/xsl:text /xsl:template !-- Paragraph -- xsl:template match=para xsl:apply-templates/ xsl:text#10;/xsl:text xsl:text#10;/xsl:text /xsl:template xsl:template
Re: [fw-general] Wiki manual updated - request for XSLT help
On 5/17/07, Andries Seutens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you can see: the line UNIX timestamp, expressed in seconds elapsed is displayed on a new line. This messes up the wiki formatting, because it has to be on a single line. Any clues on how to fix this? This one is inherent in how XML/XSL work... luckily they saw how problematic it could be and did a few things to have some more control. I haven't done this one in quite a few years, but you'll want to look into xsl:strip-space, xsl:preserve-space, and normalize-space functionality. Some details/examples: http://www.xml.com/lpt/a/868 (covers first two) and http://www.xml.com/lpt/a/882 (covers the third) kc -- D. Keith Casey Jr. CEO, CaseySoftware, LLC http://CaseySoftware.com
Re: [fw-general] Wiki manual updated - request for XSLT help
Andries Seutens wrote: Hey Martel, Thanks a lot, this works really nice! A lot better than a mix of regular expressions and XSLT :)! No problem. Glad I could help. The tricky part is that this space stripping shouldnt be done in all nodes. Okay, I don't have time on me to test this today but first thing I would try is to use strip-space or preserve-space elements (whichever is more comfortable for you): xsl:strip-space elements=country company price year / xsl:preserve-space elements=title artist / http://www.w3schools.com/xsl/el_preserve-space.asp Or, if it does not work as you would expect it to, then you may try to use functions like normalize-space(string) or replace(string1,string2,string3). Replace looks as a worst solution but it may be the one that actually works. New lines are #xd; and #xa; (being chr(13) and chr(10) or carriage return and a line feed). http://www.w3schools.com/xpath/xpath_functions.asp#string Andriesss -- Martel Valgoerad aka Michal Minicki | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://aie.pl/martel.asc =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Idleness is not doing nothing. Idleness is being free to do anything. -- Floyd Dell
Re: [fw-general] Wiki manual updated - request for XSLT help
On 5/6/07, Martel Valgoerad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, if it does not work as you would expect it to, then you may try to use functions like normalize-space(string) or replace(string1,string2,string3). Replace looks as a worst solution but it may be the one that actually works. New lines are #xd; and #xa; (being chr(13) and chr(10) or carriage return and a line feed). What you want is for each element you want to translate, you use the translate() function, as such ; xsl:value-of select=translate(.,'#xd;#xa;','') / Alex -- --- Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchymist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic Maps -- http://shelter.nu/blog/
Re: [fw-general] Wiki manual updated - request for XSLT help
Martel Valgoerad schreef: Andries Seutens wrote: PS: I am looking for some people with good knowledge of XSLT, to help me with some minor issues in the wikifized manual. If you're interested to help out, *please* send me an e-mail and I will provide you with further details. Please describe your issues, Andries. I might be able to help but I honestly don't know if I will have time to do some lengthy work. But I will probably be able to at least give you some pointers should I know how to solve the problem. Andries Seutens Okay, my first issue is that i need to convert docbook tables to wiki tables. A docbook table looks like this: table titleDate Parts/title tgroup cols=2 thead row entryColumn 1/entry entryColumn 2/entry /row /thead tbody row entry foo /entry entry bar /entry /row /tbody /tgroup /table The XSLT should transform this into: || Column 1 || Column 2 || | foo | bar | Currently, i am using a workaround with regular expressions to accomplish this task: $wiki = preg_replace('/^(\\s*)(\\|\\|[^\\r\\n]+?)(\\s+)(\\|[^\\|]+)/', \\2||\r\n\\4, $wiki); $wiki = preg_replace('/^(\\s*)\\|([^|]+.+?)(\\s*)$/m', '|\\2|', $wiki); I have more outstanding issues, but let's start with this one, as it has been bugging me for a long time :). Best, Andriesss
Re: [fw-general] Wiki manual updated - request for XSLT help
Andries Seutens wrote: Okay, my first issue is that i need to convert docbook tables to wiki tables. It's not so hard. Remember XSLT is a declarative language (as opposed to imperative), so everything you need is to declare templates for each element parser is going to find. xsl:template match=* xsl:apply-templates select=table/ /xsl:template xsl:template match=table xsl:text- /xsl:textxsl:value-of select=title / xsl:text#xd;/xsl:text xsl:apply-templates select=tgroup/ /xsl:template xsl:template match=tgroup xsl:apply-templates select=thead/ xsl:apply-templates select=tbody/ /xsl:template etc. I'm attaching two files - one with your XML and the other with a XSLT solution. I have more outstanding issues, but let's start with this one, as it has been bugging me for a long time :). I guess that with this little help I provided, you will probably be able to solve every other problem on your own ;) Andriesss -- Martel Valgoerad aka Michal Minicki | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://aie.pl/martel.asc =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Idleness is not doing nothing. Idleness is being free to do anything. -- Floyd Dell ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? xsl:stylesheet version=2.0 xmlns:xsl=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform; xmlns:xs=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; xmlns:fn=http://www.w3.org/2005/xpath-functions; xsl:output method=text version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 / xsl:template match=* xsl:apply-templates select=table/ /xsl:template xsl:template match=table xsl:text- /xsl:textxsl:value-of select=title / xsl:text#xd;/xsl:text xsl:apply-templates select=tgroup/ /xsl:template xsl:template match=tgroup xsl:apply-templates select=thead/ xsl:apply-templates select=tbody/ /xsl:template xsl:template match=thead xsl:apply-templates select=row xsl:with-param name=delim||/xsl:with-param /xsl:apply-templates /xsl:template xsl:template match=tbody xsl:apply-templates select=row xsl:with-param name=delim|/xsl:with-param /xsl:apply-templates /xsl:template xsl:template match=row xsl:param name=delim/ xsl:apply-templates select=entry xsl:with-param name=delim select=$delim / /xsl:apply-templates xsl:value-of select = $delim / xsl:text#xd;/xsl:text /xsl:template xsl:template match=entry xsl:param name = delim / xsl:value-of select = $delim / xsl:text /xsl:text xsl:value-of select=. / xsl:text /xsl:text /xsl:template /xsl:stylesheet ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? ?xml-stylesheet type=text/xsl href=andries.xslt? root table titleDate Parts/title tgroup cols=2 thead row entryColumn 1/entry entryColumn 2/entry /row /thead tbody row entryfoo/entry entrybar/entry /row row entryfoo2/entry entrybar2/entry /row /tbody /tgroup /table /root
Re: [fw-general] Wiki manual updated - request for XSLT help
Hiya, On 5/6/07, Andries Seutens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, my first issue is that i need to convert docbook tables to wiki tables. Martels declarative version is just what you want, and you could just as easy come up with alternative versions. I guess what I'm asking is what you want to do. For example, where's your DocBook coming from? Are you pulling apart DocBook documents and re-assembling them? Would you prefer to apply a DocBook document and render more complete documents? And so forth. :) Alex -- --- Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchymist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic Maps -- http://shelter.nu/blog/
Re: [fw-general] Wiki manual updated - request for XSLT help
-- Alexander Johannesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Sunday, 06 May 2007, 08:40 AM +1000): Hiya, On 5/6/07, Andries Seutens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, my first issue is that i need to convert docbook tables to wiki tables. Martels declarative version is just what you want, and you could just as easy come up with alternative versions. I guess what I'm asking is what you want to do. For example, where's your DocBook coming from? Are you pulling apart DocBook documents and re-assembling them? Would you prefer to apply a DocBook document and render more complete documents? This is for the docbook manual - confluence wiki on the framework website (to allow previewing the manual changes between releases) -- so from docbook to the confluence wiki markup. Andries already has a process in place, but a month ago or so, we modified the documentation to use xinclude to allow inclusion of subdocuments, which makes the build process easier. The unfortunate side effect was that it broke Andries' previous conversion work. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney PHP Developer| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zend - The PHP Company | http://www.zend.com/
Re: [fw-general] Wiki manual updated - request for XSLT help
Hey Martel, Thanks a lot, this works really nice! A lot better than a mix of regular expressions and XSLT :)! My next issue is newlines and tabs. I'll try to explain with an example: para This is a docbook paragraph spread on multiple lines to increase readability /para The XSLT should remove these linebreaks (or multiple spaces) from the xml, because the wiki will display it as is. Final output should be: This is a docbook paragraph spread on multiple lines to increase readability -- on one line. The tricky part is that this space stripping shouldnt be done in all nodes. Take for instance the programlisting node. We wouldn't want to mess up the output for our code examples. Also have to keep in mind that programlisting could be a child node from para. Currently, I'm using a regex workaround for this ... Your help would be sincerely appreciated! Best, Andriesss Martel Valgoerad schreef: Andries Seutens wrote: Okay, my first issue is that i need to convert docbook tables to wiki tables. It's not so hard. Remember XSLT is a declarative language (as opposed to imperative), so everything you need is to declare templates for each element parser is going to find. xsl:template match=* xsl:apply-templates select=table/ /xsl:template xsl:template match=table xsl:text- /xsl:textxsl:value-of select=title / xsl:text#xd;/xsl:text xsl:apply-templates select=tgroup/ /xsl:template xsl:template match=tgroup xsl:apply-templates select=thead/ xsl:apply-templates select=tbody/ /xsl:template etc. I'm attaching two files - one with your XML and the other with a XSLT solution. I have more outstanding issues, but let's start with this one, as it has been bugging me for a long time :). I guess that with this little help I provided, you will probably be able to solve every other problem on your own ;) Andriesss
Re: [fw-general] Wiki manual updated - request for XSLT help
Matthew Weier O'Phinney schreef: -- Alexander Johannesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (on Sunday, 06 May 2007, 08:40 AM +1000): Hiya, On 5/6/07, Andries Seutens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, my first issue is that i need to convert docbook tables to wiki tables. Martels declarative version is just what you want, and you could just as easy come up with alternative versions. I guess what I'm asking is what you want to do. For example, where's your DocBook coming from? Are you pulling apart DocBook documents and re-assembling them? Would you prefer to apply a DocBook document and render more complete documents? This is for the docbook manual - confluence wiki on the framework website (to allow previewing the manual changes between releases) -- so from docbook to the confluence wiki markup. Andries already has a process in place, but a month ago or so, we modified the documentation to use xinclude to allow inclusion of subdocuments, which makes the build process easier. The unfortunate side effect was that it broke Andries' previous conversion work. Hello Alexander, Please see: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDOCDEV/Home This is the docbook manual - confluence wiki conversion that Matthew is talking about. Best, Andriesss
Re: [fw-general] Wiki - Docbook
Andries, Regarding semantics, information lost when converting *our* docbook to wiki could be saved by embedding trivial wiki comments. As a practical matter, almost everything found in our docbook files have corresponding equivalents in Confluence and can be translated back and forth between docbook and wiki. Regarding the comment from Atlassian, they were referring to the complexity of trying to convert Confluence macros to docbook, since Confluence supports user-supplied macros that are basically Java plugins producing HTML. The handful of macros we do use in the wiki seem to map nicely to docbook equivalents (e.g. {code:xml} for programlisting role=xml). We all know wiki markup is not equivalent to docbook, but instead of worrying out trying to make perfect conversions back and forth, I suggest we focus on looking at a specific blocks of code (a real ZF .xml docbook file, and the corresponding wiki file), to avoid getting lost and overly concerned about abstract, hypothetical situations or problems that might not be relevant to our data. If the community wants to have the ease, simplicity, and pleasure of using our wiki and commenting features, instead of continuing our current editing of XML docbook files, then I'm sure we can resolve any concerns regarding converting back and forth between docbook and the wiki formats. Also, for our current use of the docbook, the aptconvert and similar tools raise the question of whether or not we really need docbook at all. Cheers, Gavin Andries Seutens wrote: Hello all, I have been doing some research on doing the wiki to docbook conversion, however I think it is tricky because you would have to infer a lot of semantics to get Docbook out of wiki markup. Wiki-markup is decidedly presentational, which means that we can transform it quite effectively into other presentational markups (PDF, non-strict HTML), but not so effectively into semantic markup. There is a comment somewhere else by an Atlassian employee saying that a docbook export functionality would require each macro to support docbook. Therefore docbook would never be supported. I think this is a valid point, although i don't like that either. I have found one other alternative that might by valuable to us: APT. http://www.xmlmind.com/aptconvert.html We could export our wiki markup (it already looks a lot like APT) and then use APTConvert to transform it into HTML, XHTML, PDF, PostScript, (MS Word loadable) RTF, DocBook SGML and DocBook XML What are your thoughts on this manner? Best regards, Andries Seutens Belgium http://andries.systray.be
Re: [fw-general] Wiki Homepage
Hi Andries, I have not forgotten about the nice wiki page you made with an improved organization of links, using ideas from the sidebar, etc. When time permits, perhaps we can make the new proposed page more obvious. I'm thinking about ways to do this. Yahoo did this. Yahoo made a new beta web mail system, and then advertised it in a banner at the top of their old system asking people to try the new one. After collecting feedback, we could then swap the old page with the new page, and make a very obvious banner/link on the new page pointing to the old page. This process should also help generate more feedback and ideas from the community. Feedback wanted for this idea .. and for the new wiki home page (see below). Although organizing the wiki into a more intuitive arrangement might not sound important to helping achieve a ZF 1.0 release, I believe the community can help significantly improve the usability of the growing collection of resources on our wiki. If we have an organization comparable to www.Drupal.org quality, I think it will help our community significantly. Cheers, Gavin Andries Seutens wrote: Hi, I'm looking for your help in adding extra value to the wiki's homepage. I really like the sidebar http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFUSER/Zend+Framework+Sidebar) but, the sidebar was created because of problems (confusing website / wiki). Please see, edit, change and help improve this page: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/PLAY/New+Homepage+idea Thank you very much for your efforts, Andries Seutens Belgium http://andries.systray.be