Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
One more vote for Eudora. :-) -- Ryan P.S. my mailbox on my server (prior to the return of my laptop) was 38MB after 2 months. I found this in the Seattle Times today. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/personaltechnology/134539584_ptmacc21.html Several readers also noted their large Entourage X mail databases had corrupted as well. A suggestion to one of them fixed it: While starting up Entourage X, hold down the Option key. Select Advanced Rebuild from the menu that appears. Go away for a long time, hours perhaps for databases over 50 megabytes and most of a day for a 500 MB file. When the operation is finished, immediately quit Entourage X and restart your machine from the Apple menu. If you fail to restart, Entourage may not correctly read the rebuilt database. If this rebuild fails, and you find e-mail is missing - in my case, everything before November was gone - dive down into your Home folder and...snipped Back up these databases before performing the rebuild option, or you'll be sorry! Sorry indeed. After I got done laughing my head off, I said a small prayer for Glenn. Yeah, I'll wait a few hours while enturdage grinds up my email. Thanks Glenn, and thanks microslop! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
On 9/27/02 12:58 AM, Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Broadcast into the ether: One more vote for Eudora. :-) -- Ryan P.S. my mailbox on my server (prior to the return of my laptop) was 38MB after 2 months. I found this in the Seattle Times today. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/personaltechnology/134539584_ptmacc21.h tml Several readers also noted their large Entourage X mail databases had corrupted as well. A suggestion to one of them fixed it: While Eudora sucks almost as hard as Iomega doesYou will figure it out later with more experience...same with Norton and Silverlining...all suck. Period. -- == Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Technician Apple Solution Expert Macintosh Server Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
Eudora sucks almost as hard as Iomega doesYou will figure it out later with more experience...same with Norton and Silverlining...all suck. Period. Um, I have used Eudora since 1.5.1. I have never had the problems I have had with Outlook, Outlook Express and Entourage. Eudora handles large email databases, Microsoft's products (when they are not stored on a server but are locally) don't at all. -- Ryan -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
On 9/27/02 1:41 AM, Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Broadcast into the ether: Eudora sucks almost as hard as Iomega doesYou will figure it out later with more experience...same with Norton and Silverlining...all suck. Period. Um, I have used Eudora since 1.5.1. I have never had the problems I have had with Outlook, Outlook Express and Entourage. Eudora handles large email databases, Microsoft's products (when they are not stored on a server but are locally) don't at all. I can say that Eudora alone has made me thousands of dollars in tech support. It is a shoddily written program the evolved for novice users. I love it. I bought a car off of it. I do not debate that Outlook stinks, but Eudora is equally poor in quality. I could tell you horror stories. I have had absolutely no problems with Entourage..nor have any of my current 100+ clients that are using it. -- == Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Technician Apple Solution Expert Macintosh Server Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
On 27/09/2002 1:41, Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eudora sucks almost as hard as Iomega doesYou will figure it out later with more experience...same with Norton and Silverlining...all suck. Period. Um, I have used Eudora since 1.5.1. I have never had the problems I have had with Outlook, Outlook Express and Entourage. Eudora handles large email databases, Microsoft's products (when they are not stored on a server but are locally) don't at all. -- Ryan Eudora has worked famously for me since version 2, I think. All versions of Macs, from Performas to... you name it. Seamless integration with PGP and all sorts of anti-spam software now, no troubles, except for windows resizing themselves in 5. Am running Entourage now on a trial run (well over a month) and no troubles. 9.1, Kanga, 160 MB. No problems. Still, I know MS, and I back up that damn database religiously. As for MS Outbreak, no thanks. For me, the real oddball is Nisus Email. I need to use it more often to offer any valid comments. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ If you can read this, you've gone too far. Best, Burkman ICQ 62393161 Why should I have a sex, who have no longer a nose? -- Samuel Beckett -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
For me, the real oddball is Nisus Email. I need to use it more often to offer any valid comments. Hi, I am using Nisus Email for about a year now and I really love it. Nisus gives me options as to receiving/deleting my mail. I basically use it in conjunction with Eudora. Deleting garbage from your server before downloading it is a great benefit these days. If Eudora could only work like Nisus in some ways. Demetrius -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
I need to look at it more before I can say anything. The interface takes some getting used to, for me, but that's OK. How do you get it to work with Eudora? It actually doesn't work with Eudora, but more like two blades of a scissor :-)Nisus basically gives me more control of what I download, and what gets deleted. Then Eudora comes in and takes control. More work? maybe, but I have found it to work for me. Maybe I can crossbreed the two.. Demetrius The Evil Scientist -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
On 27/09/2002 1:11, Demetrius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am using Nisus Email for about a year now and I really love it. Nisus gives me options as to receiving/deleting my mail. I basically use it in conjunction with Eudora. Deleting garbage from your server before downloading it is a great benefit these days. If Eudora could only work like Nisus in some ways. Demetrius I need to look at it more before I can say anything. The interface takes some getting used to, for me, but that's OK. How do you get it to work with Eudora? Set your maximum downloadable email size to 0k, then you can tell it to download, download and delete or just delete from server. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 02:41 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote: Um, I have used Eudora since 1.5.1. I have never had the problems I have had with Outlook, Outlook Express and Entourage. Eudora handles large email databases, Microsoft's products (when they are not stored on a server but are locally) don't at all. That's Kyle's generic response to anything he thinks is trash. It sucks, and then backs it up with his experience Application X [insert program name here that Kyle doesn't like] has made me thousands of dollars. To me, that just speaks of the intelligence level of his clients, and ultimately himself. If your clients are having that many problems with Entourage, making you that much money, then they are doing something seriously wrong, or you maybe you are if you are the maintainer. All email clients are pretty much equal, and each one fits a niche. You just have to decide which one is the right one for you and your situation. To try and dissuade someone (even your clients?) because of an opinion you harbor is very unprofessional. I have used Eudora for over a year. I have used Entourage for longer. Both are fully capable email clients that provided me with absolutely no problems. Walt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT Spam
Anyone have experience with iREWARDSTECH sending vast amounts of spam, which becomes almost like having a virus? How do I get rid of these idiots? Spamcop seems to be pretty much non-functional and the remove links at the bottom of their spam are all dead links. Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Pismo 400
RE, and make your machine run hotter, but I dont know how much hotter My Pismo is already pretty upgraded. What would a $300 G4 card do for me? Jim Make Jaguar run faster Give you AltiVec? Encode video faster? Make iDVD/DVD Studio Pro available to you (and therefore increase the usefulness of a DVD-R drive). Plus it's a lot cheaper than an eMac. Cheers, RD Remy Davison Contributing Editor/News Editor, Insanely-Great Mac http://www.insanely-great.com mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RD's PowerBook page: http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/seagate/536/index.html -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT Spam
On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 06:58 AM, Thomas Ethen wrote: Anyone have experience with iREWARDSTECH sending vast amounts of spam, which becomes almost like having a virus? How do I get rid of these idiots? Spamcop seems to be pretty much non-functional and the remove links at the bottom of their spam are all dead links. Hitting those click here to remove yourself links are the worst thing that you could do. Yes they are supposed to have them on there, but they really don't have to. 90% of spam mail that has that link in there email is not to really take you off their mailing list, but to confirm that your email address is a valid one. People that reply to them are just letting the spammers know that they indeed have a working email address, and spread it around to even more spammers. Walt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
dvd video ?'s
Now that I have updated to jag, my dvd plays only audio. has anyone else had this problem? Ira -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: dvd video ?'s
on 9/27/02 10:22 AM, Ira Griffin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I have updated to jag, my dvd plays only audio. has anyone else had this problem? Ira What machine r u running it on? I have a Pismo and DVD's play much much better than in 9.2.2 nick -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
Walter Basil wrote: On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 02:41 AM, Ryan Coleman wrote: Um, I have used Eudora since 1.5.1. I have never had the problems I have had with Outlook, Outlook Express and Entourage. Eudora handles large email databases, Microsoft's products (when they are not stored on a server but are locally) don't at all. That's Kyle's generic response to anything he thinks is trash. It sucks, and then backs it up with his experience Application X [insert program name here that Kyle doesn't like] has made me thousands of dollars. well, alas, I cannot charge my clients for the work I do, but we have lots of problems with our Eudora users, too. My personal preference is for Mail.app (on OS X) followed by Mozilla'a mail client (on any platform I use). -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: .Mac
Bruce Johnson writes: Dan Knight wrote: It amazes me that Apple thinks the same people who bitch about no discount for upgrading from OS X 10.1.x to 10.2 wouldn't also bitch about paying $100 -- or even $50 -- to keep an email account in service when it had been free. Actually, Apple doesn't think that. The number of people bitching and whining about paying for the OSX 10.2 upgrade were all pretty much the same cheap b**d's who were kvetching about iTools and .Mac. My point exactly. Over 2 million iTools users and about 2.5 million Mac OS X users were affected by these twin bone-headed decisions. Apple has sold a bucketload of 10.2 boxes (100K their opening weekend at $129 per, that's revenues of 12.9 million right there, easily surpassing the 5M they've gotten from .Mac so far.) So only about 4-5% of X users jumped on Jaguar -- about the same percentage willing to pay to retain their mac.com email address. Think about it. Apple got 4-5% of iTools users to sign up for .Mac at $50/year, putting $5 million in Apple's coffers and generating untold ill will. I'm guessing the value of the ill will outweighs the value of the income. Only among the people kvetching about it, and if they're too cheap to pay $50 /year for the service, if it means that much to them, they're certainly too cheap to be buying new Macs. I bought a new Mac in January 2001 -- the third new Mac and fourth new Mac OS computer in over a decade as a Mac user. I'm not too cheap to buy a new computer when there's a reason to do so, nor am I too cheap to buy an OS upgrade or pay for .mac if the benefits outweigh the costs. It seems that 90% of iTools users and OS X users have not yet decided that the cost of .mac and/or Jaguar provides sufficient benefits. By offering more affordable options (email only accounts, Jaguar upgrade packages), Apple might have doubled or tripled the number of people willing to upgrade. As an Apple stockholder and mac.com email user, I wish Apple had given the two million plus iTools users a $10/year email only option. At that price I and maybe 500,000 others would stick with it, adding $5 million more to Apple's bottom line and creating good will -- Apple, a company that listens. That would have probably been a better option than cutting them off completely, but I wonder if it would have been cost-effective. Considering how many companies (Microsoft, for instance) offer free email, I'm sure Apple could find a way to do it for more than nothing but much less than $49. I love my Macs and both types of Mac OS, but I'm not particularly pleased with the way Apple runs their business. They show a low regard for their customers when they offer a new version of the OS with no upgrade option and turn a free service many had used primarily for email into a high cost service. ROFL!!! Go buy a peecee and see how most computer users are treated. What a bunch of crap. That's like my complaining how long it takes to get a Leica repaired (because they so often have to go back to Germany) and you telling me to be glad it's not a cheapo Kodak Advantix camera. What in the world does the way Microsoft, Dell, or Gateway treat their customers have to do with the way Apple should treat theirs? I should be happy because Apple tries to screw me less? Moreover, if you don't get on the wagon now, you're gonna be off any upgrade pricing at all in the future, with MS. On the other hand, the new Apple upgrade policy tells me that I'm better off sticking with 10.1.5 as long as I can and then paying for a full-cost upgrade to 10.3 or 10.4 somewhere down the road, since Apple apparently isn't ever going to offer discounted upgrades to Mac users. Maybe these aren't concerns for iCEOs with $10 million jets and his board of directors, but for those of us in the trenches who scrape to buy RAM upgrades, bigger hard drives, new Macs every 2-5 years, and software updates, $49 for .mac and $129 for Jaguar is real money. -- Dan Knight, president, Cobweb Publishing, Inc. http://cobwebpublishing.com http://lowendmac.com http://digital-views.com http://digigraphica.com http://lowendpc.com http://reformed.net As for Unix being 'inflexible,' 'expensive,' and 'complex,' we feel those are terms much better suited to the closed and proprietary world of Windows. Sun -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:
The Mac OS
Someone writes: Os X is not the Mac OS. It is NEXT re-branded and updated with some Mac like features. I am so sick to death of this idea popping up time and again on these lists. Mac OS X is a Mac OS. Period. It's made by Apple. It only runs on Mac hardware. Apple calls is *Mac* OS X. No, it's not your father's Mac OS. Yes, it's rooted in NeXTstep and BSD Unix. Still, it's an operating system from Apple for Macintosh computers. Hence, they have every right to call it what it is: a Mac OS. Next person to state that OS X is not a Mac OS because it's not the classic Mac OS will be permanently banned from this and any other list. Nuff said? Dan the listmom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: .Mac
AMEN. On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 12:23 PM, Dan Knight wrote: Maybe these aren't concerns for iCEOs with $10 million jets and his board of directors, but for those of us in the trenches who scrape to buy RAM upgrades, bigger hard drives, new Macs every 2-5 years, and software updates, $49 for .mac and $129 for Jaguar is real money. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
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Re: Iomega support in Jag
On Thursday, September 26, 2002, at 10:57 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: I have problems with my ATA Zip 100 in my Dual 500 G4 I have issues with it all the way back to 10.1 all i get is the run around from Iomega. They told me to install OS 9 Drivers but i do not care about OS 9.2.2 it works fine there but not all tie time in in 10.2 I have to start then restart my computer to use my Zip drive. First email i got back was that the drive is not supported under 10.1 and it was an apple issue not theirs and the one i got last week was that they will get to it soon. My old USB Zip which my dad uses on his imac G4 with 10.2 runs fine but is dead slow on Win Formated Disks I am using the USB to SCSI adapter cable for my Jaz. Grr and a nicely picked out four letter word are what I have to say to Iomega. Note to self: Don't buy another Iomega product. While I love Zip, I've never been happy with any of Iomega's Jaz products. Too expensive for a drive/cartridge combo that gives you too little space and accesses too slow. You may find that you'll have much better luck if you use a drive that doesn't require an adapter, as well. In particular, USB-SCSI has always been dicey at best. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Iomega support in Jag
I tried my SCSI zip once on a USB Hub station with SCSI in it and it will not work at all under OS X but works ok under OS 9.2.2 but my current Zip is a internal IDE - ATA Zip not a SCSI one and i having tons of problems wih it under OS X all levels Anyone else havin problems with their IDE zips in their other computer? = Israeli politics, as such, was and remains a busy street. You can turn left or right -- but if you stay in the middle, you might get run over in traffic. We talk about the American Dream, and want to tell the world about the American Dream, but what is the Dream, in most cases, but the dream of material things? I sometimes think that the United States for this reason is the greatest failure the world has ever seen. - Eugene O'Neill __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 12:24 PM, Dan Knight wrote: Or maybe you're supporting Microsoft software. You know, the guys who have released 56 security bulletins already this year, who invented the Blue Screen of Death, who have most people thinking that the best way to fix a computer is to reinstall the OS yet again. All software is not created equal. Internet Explorer is far and away the program most likely to lock up my Mac in OS 9 and lock up in OS X. Why don't you want us to blame Microsoft for bad products? Where on earth did you get *that* out of what I said Dan? Perhaps you are just on the war path. Still upset over whoever peeved you off about Mac OS X (which I totally agree with you buy the way). Personally, I can't stand most MS software, and use something else when I can. I prefer Mail.app. That still doesn't mean I will come out and say Entourage is a piece of crap, and is much better than Eudora. One man's experience with one or several has nothing to do with what works for someone else. My personal experience with IE for X is superb. Not one lock up. Ever. NOT including the Public Beta of course ;) - when I started using X full time by the way. You seem to want to lump the MacBU into the same boat as everybody else at MS which is not the case. If you can't see this by now, then you probably wont period. If this post gets me banned, so be it. You will just lose any monetary support you would have received in the future. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: The Mac OS
On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 10:37 AM, Dan Knight wrote: I am so sick to death of this idea popping up time and again on these lists. Mac OS X is a Mac OS. Period. It's made by Apple. It only runs on Mac hardware. Apple calls is *Mac* OS X. I couldn't agree more! Walt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 12:24 PM, Dan Knight wrote: Or maybe you're supporting Microsoft software. You know, the guys who have released 56 security bulletins already this year, who invented the Blue Screen of Death, who have most people thinking that the best way to fix a computer is to reinstall the OS yet again. All software is not created equal. Internet Explorer is far and away the program most likely to lock up my Mac in OS 9 and lock up in OS X. Why don't you want us to blame Microsoft for bad products? Where on earth did you get *that* out of what I said Dan? Perhaps you are just on the war path. Still upset over whoever peeved you off about Mac OS X (which I totally agree with you buy the way). I am going to jump in here. Dan is not on the war path. The one on the war path (and I have read every email over and over, even my own) is Kyle. I don't like to fling mud but on occasion speaking the truth (or ones own opinion and observation of the conversation) is needed. Personally, I can't stand most MS software, and use something else when I can. I prefer Mail.app. That still doesn't mean I will come out and say Entourage is a piece of crap, and is much better than Eudora. One man's experience with one or several has nothing to do with what works for someone else. My personal experience with IE for X is superb. Not one lock up. Ever. NOT including the Public Beta of course ;) - when I started using X full time by the way. Mail.app is actually based on Outlook Express. You seem to want to lump the MacBU into the same boat as everybody else at MS which is not the case. If you can't see this by now, then you probably wont period. If this post gets me banned, so be it. You will just lose any monetary support you would have received in the future. It won't. But I think your last comment may have lost you some acceptance. BTW, I think the thread is almost dead. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
on 9/27/02 6:11 PM, Bruce Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, alas, I cannot charge my clients for the work I do, but we have lots of problems with our Eudora users, too. Now, I'm curious. I can imagine Entourage (which I use and love, btw) having unsolvable database problems, causing tons of time trying to recover from, but Eudora uses text files, and is a very simple program, in many ways. How could somebody have lots of problems, other than trying to figure out the arcane user interface, and screen clutter that it causes? ;-) What kind of problems can it cause? -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [The] law established by the Creator, which has existed from the beginning, extends over the whole globe, is everywhere and at all times binding upon mankind. . . . and is paramount to all human control. --Rufus King, signer of the Constitution -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 03:39 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: Mail.app is actually based on Outlook Express. Look, if you guys are going to get into a heated argument about mail clients, Microsoft, the size of the zit on the end of your nose, WHATEVER, at least get your facts straight. Mail.app comes from the old NeXT Mail app. Plain and simple. It is in NO WAY based on MS' Outlook Express. Now, ENTOURAGE is based on Outlook Express. Which is what I think you actually meant to say... Phil Burk Systems Support Technician Wiley Publishing, Inc. 10475 Crosspoint Blvd Indianapolis, IN 46256 317.572.3049 phone 317.572.1049 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
On 27/09/02 17:41, Phillip Burk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 03:39 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote: Mail.app is actually based on Outlook Express. Look, if you guys are going to get into a heated argument about mail clients, Microsoft, the size of the zit on the end of your nose, WHATEVER, at least get your facts straight. Mail.app comes from the old NeXT Mail app. Plain and simple. It is in NO WAY based on MS' Outlook Express. I agree with Phillip here. I did use NeXTSTEP back in 1992 and then OpenStep and I can confirm that Mail.app is basically just NeXTMail rebuilt using the latest AQUA widgets. AFAICT, it's written in Objective-C and thus isn't based on Outlook Express. -Laurent. -- === Laurent DaudelinDeveloper, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC, USA * Usual disclaimers apply * GOSMACS /goz'maks/ n.: [contraction of `Gosling EMACS'] The first EMACS-in-C implementation, predating but now largely eclipsed by GNUMACS. Originally freeware; a commercial version was modestly popular as `UniPress EMACS' during the 1980s. The author, James Gosling, went on to invent NeWS and the programming language Java; the latter earned him demigod status. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Iomega support in Jag
On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 04:42 am, James wrote: I have problems with my ATA Zip 100 in my Dual 500 G4 I have issues with it all the way back to 10.1 all i get is the run around from Iomega. They told me to install OS 9 Drivers but i do not care about OS 9.2.2 it works fine there but not all tie time in in 10.2 I have to start then restart my computer to use my Zip drive. First email i got back was that the drive is not supported under 10.1 and it was an apple issue not theirs and the one i got last week was that they will get to it soon. My old USB Zip which my dad uses on his imac G4 with 10.2 runs fine but is dead slow on Win Formated Disks I'm using a USB Zip 250 on a TI PB 800. It's worked on OS 10.1.5 through to 10.2.1. It is slow if I use 100MB disks, slightly less slow with 250 MB disks. What is faster is my ancient SCSI Zip 100 MB drive attached to firewire via an orange SCSI-firewire adapter! RS -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
Ryan Coleman wrote: Mail.app is actually based on Outlook Express. ROFL Mail.app is a straight OSX port of Mail.app from NeXT, which existed long before Outpuke did. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: spend the day rebuilding entourage db
On 9/27/02 1:39 PM, Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Broadcast into the ether: On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 12:24 PM, Dan Knight wrote: Or maybe you're supporting Microsoft software. You know, the guys who have released 56 security bulletins already this year, who invented the Blue Screen of Death, who have most people thinking that the best way to fix a computer is to reinstall the OS yet again. All software is not created equal. Internet Explorer is far and away the program most likely to lock up my Mac in OS 9 and lock up in OS X. Why don't you want us to blame Microsoft for bad products? Where on earth did you get *that* out of what I said Dan? Perhaps you are just on the war path. Still upset over whoever peeved you off about Mac OS X (which I totally agree with you buy the way). I am going to jump in here. Dan is not on the war path. The one on the war path (and I have read every email over and over, even my own) is Kyle. I don't like to fling mud but on occasion speaking the truth (or ones own opinion and observation of the conversation) is needed. No...not me. Dan is peeved about the Mac OS X not being a Mac OS thing. I am peeved by Walters response to my post about mail clients. 2 different threads that seem to have merged into one??? == Kyle H. Hansen Apple Certified Technician Apple Solution Expert Macintosh Server Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com