Lombard crashing

2003-09-03 Thread Eric Morrison
Howdy:

I have a Lombard 333MHz, 192MB RAM, OS 9.2.2. Been running fine for 
years. Recently, the end-user reported it began crashing randomly. He 
sent it back to me and I've had the same problem. It will run fine for 
a while and then just freeze (no cursor movement but the screen stays 
on, can't force quit have to reboot using Apple-Ctrl-Power). After 
crashing, on reboot I get a message that reads The built-in memory 
test has detected a problem with cache memory. Please contact a service 
technician for assistance. When I do a reboot before it crashes, I 
typically do NOT get this message. I've reset PRAM multiple times. I 
spoke with a genius at the local Apple store and asked if a clean 
install was worthwhile or a waste of time. He recommended I do it, 
which I did, and it seemed to resolved the problem and then it returned 
shortly thereafter. I've tried swapping out both RAM chips from another 
working machine to no avail. I am either going to reformat the drive 
and clean install another OS 9.2.2 or just send it back for warranty 
repair. Can anyone confirm if this is indeed a hardware problem with 
the cache or whether it is worth doing a reformat and reinstall of OS 9?

thanks for you suggestions! ... Eric

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Re: Lombard crashing

2003-09-03 Thread Antony N. Lord
The cache is fubar. This is a known problem with Lombards :

http://www.pbzone.com/archive/1002_1thru7.shtml

Don't expect to be able to fix it (unless its under extended 
warranty) or you're interested in replacing the processor with either 
a second hand one (from a scrapped Lombard) or a processor upgrade...

One of mine died like this a few weeks back. Some users have reported 
their Lombards continue to deteriorate until the point where they 
won't boot at all.

Cheers, Antony.

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12 PB - Creaky Screen Hinge

2003-09-03 Thread James Stocks
Hello everybody,

My 12 PowerBook's screen hinge used to be silky smooth.  Lately however,
the hinge has developed a nasty creaking noise and is a bit sticky.
Presumably, 3-in-1 is not the best thing to use!  Any suggestions?

Many thanks,
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Re: Lombard Crashing

2003-09-03 Thread Eric Morrison
Laurent  Antony:

Thank you for responding to my post... I love this list! I've responded 
below
your copied replies below:

Speaking of which, did you try reseating the processor daughterboard? 
It
might be possible that with the time or something else, it might have 
come
very slightly lose and maybe with the temperature rising when using the
Lombard, it gets to a point where the contacts are loss somewhere 
between
the daughterboard and the motherboard...

-Laurent.
Yes, when I swapped out the lower RAM chip I had to take out the board 
and
I made especially sure that it was properly seated when it went back in.

Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 23:06:38 +0800
From: Antony N. Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lombard crashing
The cache is fubar. This is a known problem with Lombards :

http://www.pbzone.com/archive/1002_1thru7.shtml

Don't expect to be able to fix it (unless its under extended
warranty) or you're interested in replacing the processor with either
a second hand one (from a scrapped Lombard) or a processor upgrade...
One of mine died like this a few weeks back. Some users have reported
their Lombards continue to deteriorate until the point where they
won't boot at all.
Cheers, Antony
Antony - this is what I suspected... I knew I'd seen this pop up before 
but as
we only have one Lombard I wasn't certain. Thank you for the heads up.
Luckily this machine is on extended warranty thru January of 2004 so 
they
will repair it I won't waste my time messing with it any further... 
Eric

On 03/09/03 09:37, Eric Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Howdy:

I have a Lombard 333MHz, 192MB RAM, OS 9.2.2. Been running fine for
years. Recently, the end-user reported it began crashing randomly. He
sent it back to me and I've had the same problem. It will run fine for
a while and then just freeze (no cursor movement but the screen stays
on, can't force quit have to reboot using Apple-Ctrl-Power). After
crashing, on reboot I get a message that reads The built-in memory
test has detected a problem with cache memory. Please contact a 
service
technician for assistance. When I do a reboot before it crashes, I
typically do NOT get this message. I've reset PRAM multiple times. I
spoke with a genius at the local Apple store and asked if a clean
install was worthwhile or a waste of time. He recommended I do it,
which I did, and it seemed to resolved the problem and then it 
returned
shortly thereafter. I've tried swapping out both RAM chips from 
another
working machine to no avail. I am either going to reformat the drive
and clean install another OS 9.2.2 or just send it back for warranty
repair. Can anyone confirm if this is indeed a hardware problem with
the cache or whether it is worth doing a reformat and reinstall of OS 
9?
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Which Powerbook?

2003-09-03 Thread Jim Eddy
My wife is buying a new Powerbook to go with her new teaching job. So  
the question is, which one?
My suggestion is for the 12 G4. My reasoning is that it represents the  
most recent technology, where the 15 TiBook is a bit older design and  
the iBook even older with a G3 processor. It also is very small and  
light--a plus.
Still, it would be nice to have a bigger screen than the 12. If that  
were so, how would the 14 iBook go versus the 867mhz TiBook.
Any thoughts or suggestions?

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Re: Which Powerbook?

2003-09-03 Thread Nick
on 9/3/03 9:59 PM, Jim Eddy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Her needs are:
 email and internet access,, at school and at home
 Word processing (MS Word) for academic writing.
 Possible multimedia presentations in class--probably Powerpoint since
 the IT at the university is predominantly PC. We will need to learn
 this, as neither of us have any real experience, but students are
 increasingly expecting glitz in their presentations.

The 12 is perfect for what she needs to do.  The portability is a big plus
here.

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Re: Which Powerbook?

2003-09-03 Thread Matt Halter
The speed tests I've seen put the iBook even or faster than the little 
Al Book, except when using software that uses the G4's altivec.  IBooks 
get more run time when on battery power, especially the 14.  What you 
describe your wife will be doing the iBook will handle no sweat.  
Worked as computer tech in High School this past year. We had approx. 
120 ibooks in use, around 40 used by teachers.  Never heard one 
complaint about speed and most of them were using 600mhz/700mhz ibooks 
doing exactly what you say your wife will do.  We used iBooks to do all 
our presentations.  Very easy.  Bought my son a 800mhz 12 iBook for 
Christmas, we haven't been disappointed.  That said, the practical 
advantages to the Al book are it has airport extreme, they're now 
making Gig ram chips for it (doubles ibook)(in the OS X era that can be 
important), and it has the way cool aluminum exterior.  If I were you 
I'd buy an ibook and spend what I saved not getting the al book on an 
ipod.(Apple had special deal on ibook/ipod purchase).  In a year, if 
it's not fast enough, sell it and buy a new G5 laptop.  Just my 2 cents.

Matt
On Wednesday, September 3, 2003, at 06:08  PM, Jim Eddy wrote:
My wife is buying a new Powerbook to go with her new teaching job. So 
the question is, which one?
My suggestion is for the 12 G4. My reasoning is that it represents 
the most recent technology, where the 15 TiBook is a bit older design 
and the iBook even older with a G3 processor. It also is very small 
and light--a plus.
Still, it would be nice to have a bigger screen than the 12. If that 
were so, how would the 14 iBook go versus the 867mhz TiBook.
Any thoughts or suggestions?


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Wallstreet hinges pics

2003-09-03 Thread Dan K
I just took some pics for the Wallstreet-hinge-page I intend to 
eventually construct and in the meantime thought a contact sheet might be 
of some interest:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/images/hinge.jpg

Broken hinges and a pair of still-good-hinges with my 
breakage-prevention-solution(?) :-) I hope, anyway.

What I found interesting and what got me photographing was my discovery 
of where an awful lot of the screen free-play originates (at least in the 
parts I have.) The steel hinge 'pin' is very small where it is stuffed 
into the pot-metal frame of the LCD support. The end of the frame has a 
hole and the hinge pin is retained inside that hole with some tiny 
splines. There's an awful load on such a small area and most play I see 
is in the hinge_pin-to-support location rather than in the clutch area. 

As for my breakage-prevention-solution, I figured since typically 
Wallstreet hinges fail when the clutch pack breaks apart its housing, if 
I reinforced the housing area it might make it tougher for it to spread 
out the housing and begin to break. I used some thin but stout steel 
sheeting to fab a pair of clips to surround the clutch housings where the 
stress is the greatest (I think.)

The pair of clips you'll see on the hingepin are part of a set of 11 (or 
12? I'm not sure now), and they tightly grip the hingepin to provide the 
clutch action. They're captured inside the clutch housing by their two 
little feet caught under slots in either side of the housing's interior. 
As the display is opened and closed those little feet push with all their 
might against the slots, evetually tearing free as the housing spreads 
apart and breaks open.

Ideally I'd have used a flat steel ring forced onto the rectangular shape 
of the housing to completely surround the breakage-prone-area, but as I 
had nothing on hand of a proper size I just fabbed a 'C' shaped clip 
instead. My greatest concern is that any force great enough to spread out 
the sides of the clutch housing will probably spread my 'C' clip as well. 
However, I'm convinced the clutch housing is now stronger than it was and 
as this is just a hobby 'Book anyway, it won't see much use before I tear 
it apart and re-do it 'properly'.

I also forced some grease into the clutch assembly, I 'think' that 
smoothed out the action a tad. Wheel bearing grease, in case yer 
wondering. Hey, it's all I had on the nearby basement shelf, and I was 
much too lazy to trudge upstairs to look for anything else. :-)

One last thought . . . if somehow one could remove a couple of the clips 
from each hinge it would ease the stress on the housing and reduce the 
likelyhood of failure. However, I have no idea how greatly that would 
affect the ability of the LCD to remain upright . . . h

Anyway, view the pics and let me know what you think,

Dan K


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