Re: headless TiBook 550 questions

[Steve Moody]

On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 10:40  PM, Dan K wrote:

In the meantime, by a stroke of great luck I managed to open and find 
the
help viewer, where on the page about mirroring displays I found a link 
to
open the Displays Pref pane. A scant few minutes (though many curses)
later I managed to grapple the primary pref window and dragging that to
where I could see it was finally able to select that confounded little
Mirror Displays checkbox.
  I just recalled something about the F7 key toggling mirror display.


  Having a larger customer base is an indication of market superiority, 
not of product superiority.

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Re: headless TiBook 550 questions

[Andrew Kershaw]

Whew. But I'd still like to know about the lid-shut-sleep thingy, if
anyone knows, do please tell. :-)
Dan K
A weak magnet over the right edge of the PowerBook?  Judging by 
everything from the Wallstreet to the Pismo, the sleep actuator is 
activated by a magnet in that general vicinity.  You close the lid, 
lift the magnet up thus completing a circuit, and the PowerBook 
should go to sleep...

But that's just a guess - I don't have a TiBook to test on.

Peace,
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Re: headless TiBook 550 questions

[Lewin Edwards]

How does my GigE TiBook know to sleep? I've perused all Apple's tech 
docs
Reed switch in most PB's. Power it up, wait for the desktop, and run a 
powerful magnet around the edge of the top of the bottom half of the 
clamshell until the beast snoozes.

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Re: headless TiBook 550 questions

[Dan K]

I whined:
>> I've had no luck so far trying to grab any open windows so I can dig 
>> down to the monitors pane to set the d%*n thing to mirrored displays.

Steve Moody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kindly replied:>
>Try to get it to run with the lid closed.
That's a terrific suggestion! Gulp, b-b-b-but I have no lid . . . snif, 
snif

How does my GigE TiBook know to sleep? I've perused all Apple's tech docs 
and haven't yet discovered the mechanism that induces sleep when the lid 
is closed.

In the meantime, by a stroke of great luck I managed to open and find the 
help viewer, where on the page about mirroring displays I found a link to 
open the Displays Pref pane. A scant few minutes (though many curses) 
later I managed to grapple the primary pref window and dragging that to 
where I could see it was finally able to select that confounded little 
Mirror Displays checkbox.

Whew. But I'd still like to know about the lid-shut-sleep thingy, if 
anyone knows, do please tell. :-)

Dan K


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Re: Volume Wrapper

[Hamlin Krewson]

Whether it's corrupted during or after formatting the drive, what's the 
difference. The end result is the same, and one still needs to rule out 
the same possible issues (software, hardware (drive), hardware (logic)).

Yet, the damage doesn't need to come from bad formatting... the data 
can corrupt just like any other file on the disk, as it is accessed 
and changed by OS X periodically.

On Sep 20, 2003, at 12:17 PM, Hamlin Krewson wrote:

On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 11:52 AM, Adam Thayer wrote:

Sorry, the Volume Wrapper is actually an HFS+ specific thing. The 
Volume Wrapper is a chunk of HFS information to allow the ROMs in 
older machines to properly boot an HFS+ drive,
Which would make it part of the formatting process (for HFS+).


It's a part of the formatting process I believe. Bad formatting, 
bad drive, bad logic.

Hamlin

On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 04:08  PM, Dr. John Pullyblank 
wrote:


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Re: Volume Wrapper

[Adam Thayer]

Yet, the damage doesn't need to come from bad formatting... the data 
can corrupt just like any other file on the disk, as it is accessed and 
changed by OS X periodically.

On Sep 20, 2003, at 12:17 PM, Hamlin Krewson wrote:

On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 11:52 AM, Adam Thayer wrote:

Sorry, the Volume Wrapper is actually an HFS+ specific thing. The 
Volume Wrapper is a chunk of HFS information to allow the ROMs in 
older machines to properly boot an HFS+ drive,
Which would make it part of the formatting process (for HFS+).


It's a part of the formatting process I believe. Bad formatting, bad 
drive, bad logic.

Hamlin

On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 04:08  PM, Dr. John Pullyblank 
wrote:


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Re: headless TiBook 550 questions

[Steve Moody]

On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 03:10  PM, Dan K wrote:

The 'Book boots into some flavor of X, but with a monitor attached to 
the
external video port I see only the second screen of an extended 
desktop.
I managed to find and drag over the HD icon, but for the life of me 
I've
had no luck so far trying to grab any open windows so I can dig down to
the monitors pane to set the d%*n thing to mirrored displays. A PRAM
reset didn't help.
   Try to get it to run with the lid closed.   It's 'sposed to be 
simple to do - just plug in an external key board and mouse when it is 
closed, but mine doesn't work that well.   I have to let it go to 
sleep, then while a keyboard and mouse are plugged in, I open the lib a 
bit, press the space bar and click the track pad button a few times and 
let the lid close.   Once it wakes with the lid closed, I get 
everything on the monitor.


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not of product superiority.

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Re: Volume Wrapper

[Hamlin Krewson]

On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 11:52 AM, Adam Thayer wrote:

Sorry, the Volume Wrapper is actually an HFS+ specific thing. The 
Volume Wrapper is a chunk of HFS information to allow the ROMs in 
older machines to properly boot an HFS+ drive,
Which would make it part of the formatting process (for HFS+).


It's a part of the formatting process I believe. Bad formatting, bad 
drive, bad logic.

Hamlin

On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 04:08  PM, Dr. John Pullyblank 
wrote:


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headless TiBook 550 questions

[Dan K]

I just picked up a headless 550 TiBook (GigE) and I've got some Qs. It 
came with an separate intact LCD, but stripped of hinges, cables etc. and 
the remaining bezel bits are pretty bent up. Otherwise the bottom half is 
in pretty decent shape, battery seems solid, no dents and the paint isn't 
bad at all, etc. It's a 550mhz 384/20/combo config BTW.

The 'Book boots into some flavor of X, but with a monitor attached to the 
external video port I see only the second screen of an extended desktop. 
I managed to find and drag over the HD icon, but for the life of me I've 
had no luck so far trying to grab any open windows so I can dig down to 
the monitors pane to set the d%*n thing to mirrored displays. A PRAM 
reset didn't help.

1) So how the heck do I do it? Can I change the primary display at the 
Open Firmware prompt? cmd-opt-O-F does produce an OF prompt on the 
monitor . . . Any other suggestions beyond keep trying with the 
blind-click-and-drag frustrator? I haven't yet tried booting from an OS9 
CD, perhaps 9 is smart enough to know there is no internal display 
attached! 

2) Is it a practical proposition for me to look for a complete but 
cracked-LCD display and use my intact LCD to make one complete display? 
The repair manual has no repair procedure for the display itself, module 
replacement the only included procedure. The front part around the LCD 
itself appears to be glued on, Lewin Edwards suggested to someone using 
heat (a la Palm V) to soften the glue but I fear damaging the LCD. Any 
further suggestions anyone?

3) Which displays fit the 550/667 GigE TiBook? I've come across different 
infos, some say any pre-DVI display will work, while others say only a 
GigE display can be used. Can I use an original TiBook display? Any 
authoritative details greatly appreciated!

I paid $475 for this lil' mess only because I can't afford to spend the 
$1000+ a GigE TiBook costs these days, with the idea I might be able to 
put together a complete TiBook for substantially less than market price.

4) But is it even worth bothering trying to fix this sow's ear? Should I 
just go with plan 'B', break it and sell the parts, then wait patiently 
for another bargain (but complete) TiBook to come along some other fine 
day? Mind you, I have no legit need right now for a TiBook anyhow, which 
explains my 'can't afford' comment. :-)

TIA,

Dan K


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Re: Volume Wrapper

[Adam Thayer]

Sorry, the Volume Wrapper is actually an HFS+ specific thing. The 
Volume Wrapper is a chunk of HFS information to allow the ROMs in older 
machines to properly boot an HFS+ drive, since this wrapper is part of 
the HFS+ specification, all HFS+ partitions have it. The significance 
could be large or small... but personally, I would run Disk Utility off 
the OS X install CD (if your iBook has it) to do the repairs of 
something like that rather than Disk Warrior.

If Disk Utility can't fix it... then it would appear to be a bad drive, 
run the Hardware Diagnostic CD that came with the iBook and if errors 
come up there, it is time to call Apple to get the drive replaced.

On Sep 19, 2003, at 2:27 PM, Hamlin Krewson wrote:

It's a part of the formatting process I believe. Bad formatting, bad 
drive, bad logic.

Hamlin

On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 04:08  PM, Dr. John Pullyblank wrote:

Hi,

I have just replaced my Wallstreet with a new iBook. When I run 
DiskWarrior 3, some scans indicate that there is a serious problem 
with the volume wrapper that it then fixes. Can anybody remind me of 
what a volume wrapper is, the significance of errors with it, and why 
this problem may reoccur?

Thanks for any help.

John

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