Re: Panther Filesharing

2003-11-07 Thread Luis Sequeira
We have a small network at home and I use file sharing frequently. Since
upgrading to Panther I've been confounded by how it is handled now. When I
log onto another computer its icon isn't mounted to the desktop or to the
sidebar. There's no visual hint at all that I am sharing and no way to log
off. At least that's what I thought until this morning.
I got a new wireless base station and was configuring it this morning
(Apple's base station may be a more expensive but it certainly are less
complicated to configure.) Anyway, as I was configuring with the PC and
testing file sharing and printer sharing with my PowerBook I made two
discoveries. If everyone else has figured this out, sorry.
1. When you browse the network you see icons of all the computers you can
fileshare with. Those that you have already connected to have a slightly
different icon than those that aren't connected. The difference is so subtle
that I've missed noticing it for a week. Also, I noticed that when you open
a window to browse the network the icons all tend to show as disconnected
and then after a few seconds the connected computers' icon will change to
reflect that it is connected.
2. if you control select (right select) a connected computer's icon one of
the options in the contextual menu is eject. Eject also shows up in the File
menu.
This is complicated by the fact that after connecting to the computer, the
window changes to display the computer you've connected to so you have to
reselect the network window first.
I hope this helps those who were as confused about Panther and filesharing
as I was.


I have been confronted with the same problem. The workaround that I 
use is to not mount the volumes with the browser: if they are mounted 
by entering their address (e.g. afp://thismachine) they do appear on 
the desktop and sidebar and can be ejected conveniently clicking on 
the little eject button next to them in the side bar. Adding the 
server thus mounted to the list of favorite servers (in the connect 
to server... dialog, click on the + button), you don't have to retype 
the address the next time.

Although this workaround lets me use the server volumes the way they 
ought to be, I do believe the odd browser behavior to be a serious 
inconsistency (as well as a security concern). This has been noted 
elsewhere (Macintouch, I believe) and people have sent bug reports to 
Apple. I hope they fix it by 10.3.1.

Luis

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Re: Dead Wallstreet

2003-11-07 Thread Bill Briggs
At 11:09 AM -0700 06/11/03, Andrew wrote:
Thanks to all list members for your helpful replies on this topic. From the
emails I recieved it seems that the first thing I should try is replacing
the PMU. Does anyone have a source for these? I've seen them online in the
past for $20US, but I can't find any at the moment.
 The same thing happened to my Wallstreet. But a new PMU board didn't 
fix it. It booted once with the new PMU board and then was back to 
its old self. So just in case it doesn't work for you, don't be 
annoyed at the advice. I still haven't got mine fixed. But then with 
a Ti PowerBook the incentive is low.

- web

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Re: Panther Filesharing

2003-11-07 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 07/11/03 04:56, Luis Sequeira at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have been confronted with the same problem. The workaround that I
 use is to not mount the volumes with the browser: if they are mounted
 by entering their address (e.g. afp://thismachine) they do appear on
 the desktop and sidebar and can be ejected conveniently clicking on
 the little eject button next to them in the side bar. Adding the
 server thus mounted to the list of favorite servers (in the connect
 to server... dialog, click on the + button), you don't have to retype
 the address the next time.
 
 Although this workaround lets me use the server volumes the way they
 ought to be, I do believe the odd browser behavior to be a serious
 inconsistency (as well as a security concern). This has been noted
 elsewhere (Macintouch, I believe) and people have sent bug reports to
 Apple. I hope they fix it by 10.3.1.

I did face the same problem and also came to the same conclusions, that the
network behavior was pretty inconsistent with the direct connection to
server. The mount point for the volumes you access through the browser is
totally different than the mount point when you access the server directly.
I did file a bug report on this, but I encourage everybody to use the
feedback link on the Apple's Mac OS X web site to let Apple knows. The more
people chime in, the more likely the bug will be fixed...

-Laurent.
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Re: Pismo/iPod

2003-11-07 Thread Joe Ellis

- Original Message -
From: Clyde Kahrl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: Pismo/iPod


 The reason your iPod doesn't recognize your wife's Pismo is
 that an iPod will only hook up to a single computer with regard to
 iTunes.   It is designed that way--partly to prevent piracy by
 using the iPod to transfer music files to multiple computers.  Of
 course, this is sort of a weird way to prevent piracy, and easily
 evaded, but in any case, your iPod can have only one base computer
 with iTunes.   Check out the iTunes help for how to change that base
 computer.
 When you think about it, there is no reason to have more than
 one base computer--other than to transfer files--and you can do that
 on ethernet.
 --

Sorry, I beg to differ with you, I connect my iPod to 2 *different*
computers all the time. I have a Pismo and a 867Mhz Quicksilver desktop
machine. Depending on how you have your iPod configured; you will see 2
different scenarios. If you have it set for Auto-Sync and the last machine
it was mounted on was the Pismo and I hook it to my QS; it will ask if I
want to wipe whats on it and replace with the QS iTunes library. If I have
it configured for *Manual* syncing it simply mounts the iPod without doing a
sync and you can use a nifty little program called ipod.itunes and actually
transfer and sync the files on the iPod with those in iTunes. I frequently
do this because in the evening, I will sit in my living room with my Pismo
and browse the iTunes store and buy and download music and put it on my
iPod. Later, when I have some tiime, I will take the iPod and connect it to
my QS and add the new music to my QS which serves as a back-up. This way, I
keep BOTH computers with an up to date and synced iTunes library. (BTW: this
is perfectly legal, read the iTunes user agreement)

Joe Ellis


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DVD Player 1.3

2003-11-07 Thread michael Vogt
Hi all I tried to hack my 9.2.2 version of DVD player with the 2.7 and 
it did not work And I did  a dumb thing and did the replace insted of 
just putting the 1.3 parts in a folder  so I need DVD player and all 
the EXT. for 1.3  does anyone have it?  I went Apple web site and I 
could not find it under there down loads
Michael  Sharon  Vogt 

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Pismo/iPod

2003-11-07 Thread Frank Cornew
Suspect that I had a similar experience with a 30 GB third generation 
(3G) iPod.

My 3G iPod initially worked under 9.2.2 on my Pismo, but the 
connection became increasingly flaky. Could only negotiate updating 
of music after a reboot, even with a clean install of 9.2.2 with the 
latest OS9 iTunes (2.0.4) and iPod updater (1.3?). Intermittent 
mounting on desktop. No ability to change iPod prefs under iTunes. 
iPod updater under 9.2.2 would not restore/repair the pod when it 
started to be unreliable. Only solution was to reset it with the 
latest iPod updater under OSX. Was starting to think that the cable 
was damaged.

Believe that the last iPod updater compatible with OS9 is not really 
compatible with the 3G iPods. iTunes may have some issues as well. 
Checked the Apple webpages and did discover that there seems to be a 
compatibility gap.

Doubt that this is a one pod - one computer issue, as a window 
generally pops up warning about the different music libraries.

Learned much about iPod diagnostics and various button salutes for 
reset/diskmode/diagnostics. Mine does not have the hidden record 
feature

Finally decided that the time had come for OSX. iPod rock solid since 
then. Only wish that I could transfer my playlists to the latest 
iTunes for X from the old one. Any suggestions?

BTW, Panther seems to be snappier on my Pismo G3/400 than 9.2.2. Do 
have 576MB RAM and the latest fast 60GB disk though...

F.



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  When you plug
  it into your wife's Pismo, can you start iTunes and have it
  recognized?
 No.  It also won't even show up on the desktop (in either 9 or X).
 Also, the iPod doesn't go through it's usual little connection song and
 dance like it does with the other Pismo.
Well, first suggestion, if she doesn't have a compelling reason for using OS
9, she should switch and go to OS X and stay there. Next re-install iTunes,
the latest version and repair permissions. If you supect a firewire problem
on her machine, do you have another FW device to test with? Perhaps another
FW drive or camera.
You could use your Pismo to check her FW connection by using yours in Target
Disk mode. Do you know how?
Joe
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Re: Panther Filesharing

2003-11-07 Thread Frank Cornew
I have read the rest of this thread. I'm actually a bit more lost 
than Clark. I just transitioned from 9.2.2 to Panther (mainly to get 
my iPod working), and while have worked out most of the issues with 
my everyday working environment, I'm not seeing any networked volumes 
at all, either on the desktop or the sidebar.

Basically trying to find a single desktop Mac running OS 9.2.2 that 
is hooked up via ethernet to a graphite airport base station. Panther 
is running my Pismo and the airport connection sees the internet just 
fine via the ABS modem. I set this rig up and it worked just fine 
with both computers under OS 9.2.2, and I figured that I would 
eventually dope it out. Nonetheless, the feedback from this thread 
makes me wonder if things aren't working quite right.

Have attempted to mount via the browser with the desktop's IP 
address, no joy, not even a wait. Appletalk is enabled via Airport on 
the pismo. Guess I should check if it is working in the opposite 
direction. Mounting via afp://thismachine. is accomplished how?

This is under a Panther clean install with one update. Kind of bummed 
as networking was supposed to be a no brainer with the new OS.



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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 19:59:37 -0800
From: Clark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Panther  Filesharing
At 10:36 AM -0500 11/6/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We have a small network at home and I use file sharing frequently. Since
upgrading to Panther I've been confounded by how it is handled now. When I
log onto another computer its icon isn't mounted to the desktop or to the
sidebar. There's no visual hint at all that I am sharing and no way to log
off. At least that's what I thought until this morning.


Have you checked Finder Preferences.  In Jaguar there are options
there for controlling what kind of drives appear on the desktop,
including servers.


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Re: Dead Wallstreet

2003-11-07 Thread Andrew
At 11:09 AM -0700 06/11/03, Andrew wrote:
Thanks to all list members for your helpful replies on this topic. From the
emails I recieved it seems that the first thing I should try is replacing
the PMU. Does anyone have a source for these? I've seen them online in the
past for $20US, but I can't find any at the moment.

  The same thing happened to my Wallstreet. But a new PMU board didn't
fix it. It booted once with the new PMU board and then was back to
its old self. So just in case it doesn't work for you, don't be
annoyed at the advice. I still haven't got mine fixed. But then with
a Ti PowerBook the incentive is low.

- web

Yes the tibook does remove incentive, that is how I got this in the first
place. However recently being reduced to using a duo greatly increased my
incentive! :)

I realize it may be another component such as the processor or motherboard,
but this seems a good place to start...



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Re: Panther Filesharing

2003-11-07 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 07/11/03 11:56, Frank Cornew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have read the rest of this thread. I'm actually a bit more lost
 than Clark. I just transitioned from 9.2.2 to Panther (mainly to get
 my iPod working), and while have worked out most of the issues with
 my everyday working environment, I'm not seeing any networked volumes
 at all, either on the desktop or the sidebar.
 
 Basically trying to find a single desktop Mac running OS 9.2.2 that
 is hooked up via ethernet to a graphite airport base station. Panther
 is running my Pismo and the airport connection sees the internet just
 fine via the ABS modem. I set this rig up and it worked just fine
 with both computers under OS 9.2.2, and I figured that I would
 eventually dope it out. Nonetheless, the feedback from this thread
 makes me wonder if things aren't working quite right.
 
 Have attempted to mount via the browser with the desktop's IP
 address, no joy, not even a wait. Appletalk is enabled via Airport on
 the pismo. Guess I should check if it is working in the opposite
 direction. Mounting via afp://thismachine. is accomplished how?
 
 This is under a Panther clean install with one update. Kind of bummed
 as networking was supposed to be a no brainer with the new OS.

Did you try to go through the Network browser? Open a new Finder window,
change presentation to columns (CMD-3), then click Network at the top of
the sidebar. Do you see a folder named Local? If so, click on it. If your
network is setup properly, you should see all AppleShare servers there. I'm
not sure, though, if those AppleShare servers have to have server over IP
address enabled when running OS 9.

If you don't see the Local folder, then there is a problem on your
machine...

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Firewire problem

2003-11-07 Thread Michel Treisman
I have received Panther but not yet installed it. I have a LaCie 400FW 
Studiodrive
I bought in 2000 or 2001.  I don't know whether this is equivalent to a 
d2 drive.

So I asked LaCie:

product name: StudioDrive
serial:  754105180297  6774A
purchase date: 2001
interface: Firewire
I am upgrading to Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther).  Should I apply
your firmware update in your Updater 6.4.8a  to this drive?
their answer was:

Yes please do so from an OS9 machine.
Also backup any important data on the drive prior to this
Wait until you have finished the 10.3 install before you attach the
drive.
Mike



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Re: Panther rant was: A new start and Pismo upgrades

2003-11-07 Thread Dan K
Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am sure that someone will come up with changes to the files that determine
burning support in 10.3.
I haven't done it myself but others have re-enabled burning support by 
replacing the entire DiscRecording.framework directory in 10.3 with a 
working(+patched-for-non-supported-drives) same-item from 10.2.x. They 
had to boot to 9 to effect the change, manually replacing the directory 
before rebooting to Panther.

Apparently the new DiscRecording.framework is a single file which resists 
direct patching. Interestingly, DiscRecording.framework shows up as v2.1 
in both (go figure!  :-) 

hth,

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