Re: Exceeding the RAM max

[Eugene Lee]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 02:35:06AM +, Mathew Peace wrote:
: 
: In my previous query on running OS X on the old clamshell iBooks, I
: have read 2 replies that say they have upped the RAM on their old
: iBooks to 512MB, when the max I have read from Apple is 320MB.
: 
: How is it possible to exceed the factory maximum RAM?

At the time of the computer's production, there were no RAM modules
available in existence at those capacities.  Apple's stated maximums
reflected the hardware available (and thus testable) at those times.


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Re: Exceeding the RAM max

[Krevnik]

On Nov 17, 2003, at 6:35 PM, Mathew Peace wrote:

In my previous query on running OS X on the old clamshell iBooks, I 
have read 2
replies that say they have upped the RAM on their old iBooks to 512MB, 
when the
max I have read from Apple is 320MB.

How is it possible to exceed the factory maximum RAM?
The factory maximum is calculated based upon the RAM available on the 
market at the time. It is possible to exceed this when RAM comes out 
that matches the needs of the slots of the machine. For example, the 
Lombard is designed to hold 256MB in each slot, but the lower slot 
can't hold full-height laptop DIMMs. At the time the machine was made, 
the largest DIMM that could fit in the bottom slot physically was 128MB 
(128+256=384MB, Apple's factory maximum). But now there are 256MB DIMMs 
for the lower slot, allowing 512MB to be used in the Lombard. I don't 
know enough about the iBook's memory system to see if this is true with 
it or now... but I am cautious.

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Exceeding the RAM max

[Mathew Peace]

In my previous query on running OS X on the old clamshell iBooks, I have read 2 
replies that say they have upped the RAM on their old iBooks to 512MB, when the 
max I have read from Apple is 320MB.

How is it possible to exceed the factory maximum RAM?

Mathew


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Lombard + SCSI (was: Lombard won't boot up)

[gf sciacca]

I have a Jaz drive, an ancient Apple CD drive and a Plextor burner hooked
up smoothly via SCSI to my Lombard 333, OS 10.2.8. I haven't tried to burn
as of yet, though it should not pose a problem, as CDs are mounted ok on
the Plextor. The only minor problem I've noticed, just yesterday, is that
a CD burned in two separate sessions would mount only the first  of the
two sessions. Any idea as to why? (the CD was burned under OS 9.2.2 and
mounts OK under 9.2.2)

cheers, gianfranco

> Hello. SCSI Question. Does anyone have any Powerbook G3 scsi devices
> recognized in OS 10.2.8? I have thought that the particular MESH to the
> scsi on the wallstreet and Lombard were not recognized by OSX. Am I
> overlooking something useful hear? TIA

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Re: Panther install Imac

[Al Poulin]

Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Her computer: Imac 333 mhz, 384 ram, 7 GB HD, Dual USB (No firewire).
> 
> After struggling with this for 2 days, I tried loading Jaguar and it went
> without a hitch and is running fine.

Someone said that Panther needs more space on the hard drive to install.

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Re: DVD player for Lombard?

[Eugene Lee]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 05:05:58PM -0500, Kevin Thomas wrote:
: 
: I have a PB 400 Lombard that I can't seem to play DVD's in.  Yes, it is 
: a DVD-ROM drive.  Yes, I ran the firmware update.  It comes up with an 
: error each time I try to run Software Update to download DVD Player 
: 2.7.  I read that this is not compatible with the G3 PB's but I can't 
: find the player that is compatible.  It currently is using 1.3 but it 
: won't play the dvd.  Any help?  Ideas?

In OS X, you cannot play DVD with Apple's DVD Player 2.x because it is a
software-decoding player.  You must reboot to OS 9 and run Apple's old
DVD Player 1.x as it uses Lombard's built-in hardware decoder.


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Re: OS X on Clamshell iBook

[PaulaTx1]

In a message dated 11/17/2003 5:31:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> 
> can i run OS X (panther or jaguar) smoothly?

 I have one of the original clamshells (in blue) and have been running Jaguar on it 
since Jaguar first came out.  It is EXTREMELY stable.   I installed a 512mg ram chip 
in it.  It makes a BIG difference.  (Just make sure you get the correct ram for the 
machine. Your machine WILL take a 512 mg chip.) 
   I can't speak for Photoshop or Illustrator, because I use Pagemaker and Indesign.  
On my clamshell, I'm staying at Jaguar.  [My TiPB will be upgrading to Panther.]   If 
you upgrade all the way to Panther, will have to buy more upgrades for your Photoshop 
and Illustrator?  Will they run in Panther?
Paula  Rutledge


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Re: OS X on Clamshell iBook

[geno]

I have the same computer. I put a Pc-100 512MB chip in it.

Panther runs great. So much faster then jaguar. I don't have OS9 on my computer 
at all. But Photoshop CS works great on it.

Hope this helps!

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OS X on Clamshell iBook

[Mathew Peace]

I'm a Graphic Design student, in Queensland Australia. 

I have a:

Tangerine iBook G3 300 mHz
192 MB RAM (64 originally, 320 max)
6 gig HD
4 MB Vram
Running OS 9.2.2

My questions are:

can i run OS X (panther or jaguar) smoothly?
can i run Photoshop 5 and Illustrator 8 in a classic mode? 
will they run smoothly?
or should I boost the ram to the max (320 MB)? 

I would like to upgrade to OS X, as many utilities these days are OS X only. 
I've been asking around as this is a costly upgrade for, and a new computer is 
out of the question until I can graduate. 

Thanks
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DVD player for Lombard?

[Kevin Thomas]

I have a PB 400 Lombard that I can't seem to play DVD's in.  Yes, it is 
a DVD-ROM drive.  Yes, I ran the firmware update.  It comes up with an 
error each time I try to run Software Update to download DVD Player 
2.7.  I read that this is not compatible with the G3 PB's but I can't 
find the player that is compatible.  It currently is using 1.3 but it 
won't play the dvd.  Any help?  Ideas?

thx
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Re: Panther install Imac

[Wayne]

> I would check her hard drive very thoroughly.  That sounds like a bad
> sector or two.

Thanks Bruce,

I did not run a surface scan  with Techtool, I will try this. If it was a
bad sector, why did Jaguar load without incident? Any thoughts...


Wayne


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Re: Reasonable turnaround time to replace DVD-ROM module?

[Jeff Drummond]

Kyle Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>On 11/16/03 5:48 PM, "Peter Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Spew into the
>Cybertrough:
>
>> -- "Here is where the problem arises.  That module is about $330 with a core
>> return.  It costs $790 without one. "
>> 
>> I think you are more accurately describing Apple's problem in the first
>> place - $790 for a slim dvd 2x-6x ???
>> I don't dispute your facts, I suspect that any computer company that
>> installs 'heavy use and wear' devices costing a third of the orginal sticker
>> price of the whole laptop would want to recoup those costs at the expense of
>> the customer, not their own piggybank. There is your bad Apple... they
>> should have found a bottom dollar price from a reputable optical drive
>> manufacturer for replacement units and shovelled them out like candy
>
>That would be what Dell does.  They buy crap components and replace them at
>will.  I DO NOT EVER want Apple to do that.

I'd say "crap component" accurately describes the Pismo LG CD/DVD drives.
I know people who are on their third drive.  :/

The only thing worse than a cheap crappy component is an expensive crappy
component.

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Re: Panther install Imac

[Bruce Johnson]

Wayne wrote:

Hey everybody...

Her computer: Imac 333 mhz, 384 ram, 7 GB HD, Dual USB (No firewire).

After struggling with this for 2 days, I tried loading Jaguar and it went
without a hitch and is running fine.
Anyone heard of any similar problems or fixes? Thanks.
I would check her hard drive very thoroughly.  That sounds like a bad 
sector or two.

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Re: OS10 sleep

[tivo]

> Thomas Ethen wrote:
> 
>> I have both 10.2 and 9.2 on my 977 G4 and both seem to run just fine, but
>> when I let the G4 go into sleep mode in 10, nothing will wake it from sleep
>> and I have to do a hard start to get it running again. Any ideas?
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
> bootup with  os 9 cd  a couple of times . .  while you're in 9x select
> sleep mode and allow your computer to go to sleep . . . do this a couple
> of times, reboot in X.2  and that should correct the problem.  I had
> this problem with OSX.2 on my wallstreet G3, had a backlight problem and
> it would go to sleep and never wake up now the problem has gone away.
> 
> -MW .
 
I have the same sleep problem as above: G3 iBook 900MHz 640RAM.

My G3 iBook arrived with all discs loaded. I have three CDs of Software
Restore (Mac OSX and Mac OS9 Applications), and two install discs for Mac
OSX (on which it reads that I can start from the disc by holding the C Key
at start-up). 

What do I use to boot from OS9? I'm worried about messing up other
settings...


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Re: Panther install Imac

[Wayne]

Hey everybody...

I received my copy of Panther as soon as it came out. I installed it without
incident on my Ibook 700 mhz and our home Imac 500 mhz. My Mom's computer
would not install her copy. I checked software update and all firmware
updates prior to putting it in and updated everything. The Upgrade starts
fine and runs through all the screens and starts writing the files, then at
45% completion, it stops (the blue aqua bar still is animated, but it will
not go any farther). Nothing else is effected, the mouse works etc. I tried
several times with the same results. Tried upgrade first, then erasing
everything and starting fresh, still would not go past 45%.

Her computer: Imac 333 mhz, 384 ram, 7 GB HD, Dual USB (No firewire).

After struggling with this for 2 days, I tried loading Jaguar and it went
without a hitch and is running fine.

Anyone heard of any similar problems or fixes? Thanks.

Wayne
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Re: PDF Won't delete - solved ...

[Bruce Johnson]

Bryan Forbes wrote:

Thanks guys for the hints ... what I ended up doing was booting into OS 
9, going to my desktop location and trashing it from there.
For those of you unable/unwilling to boot into OS9, the same can be 
accomplished with Terminal. Fire up Terminal and do the following 
commands  means hit return after typing the preceding.

cd Desktop
sudo rm filename 
Where filename is the name of the file to delete. (case is not 
important for the file name on Mac formatted disks, it is for the commands.)

You'll be asked for your administrative password, and the file will be gone.
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Pismo rubber feet

[Frank Cornew]

Dunno.
Have been using the clear feet from the hardware store for some time 
and prefer them. They stay put way longer, grip my inclined 
workstation far better, and put a bit more space between the Pismo 
and the desk for ventilation. It is possible to find these things in 
the exact size of the recesses that the old black feet fit in. For 
longer lasting results and appearance, I recommend you clean out 
vestiges of the old stickum out of the recesses first. GooGone?

The inclined workstation is actually a music stand that was probably 
meant to be used on top of a grand piano. At any rate, it is smooth, 
but the book stays put. Great ventilation, ergonomic and very 
elegant. I'd pay $30 for a stand like this, not the feet.

F.



Hi.
Please share with me what is the racket going on with
replacing the powerbook rubber feet for a Pismo? I've visited at
least three websites where they are trying to sell replacement
stick-on rubber feet for close to $20.  The lowest price at one site
wanted $10 for the strip of four black stick-on rubber feet but then
their shipping and handling was $10. This is insane since the weight
isn't even listed because it does not register on most postal scales.
Yup, you guessed it a first class no. 10 envelope for thirty seven
cents and away they go.
So as a temporary measure I went to Home Depot and purchased
clear stick-on cabinet door bumpers 3/8" package of twenty for $2.
The thickness is greater but I'm testing the first one to see if it
stays on.
Does anyone else have a suggestion for a reasonably priced
source of black powerbook feet?
Thanks
G3 Firewire Powerbook 10.2.6
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Re: Need help with Booting problem - batt life under X

[Frank Cornew]

Below procedure works fine for me - just use the respective startup 
disk panels to switch back and forth.

Also, have noted that Panther (OSX 10.3?) is giving me the same - if 
not longer battery life than 9.2.2 on my flock of three ancient 
batteries in a Pismo. Maybe there was some kind of 'Battery Reset' 
effect that was previously not available on the Pismo.

Seems that prior versions of X were problematic in this respect. Only 
thing I would expect X to impact on battery life might be increased 
virtual memory use resulting in more HD access. I've got 576 MB in 
this Pismo, so that may not be happening.

Gary E Davis wrote:

Hi all

I have a 266Mhz wallstreet with 384meg ram and a 20 gig drive Running
OSX 2.8. I installed OS92.2 on the second partition for Classic apps but
if I try to get it to boot OS9 off the second partition it halts after
the Smiley mac and reboots back to OSX.. What do I have set wrong?
Also have any of you noticed that OSX drains the Battery faster then
OS9.2.2?
Gary




Go ahead and boot to OSX. . after it boots up, go to your sys.
preferences and double click on the  icon "startup Disk" then select
"Mac OS 9.1/ or 9.2 which ever one you've installed. restart your
computer. . . and it should boot up in Os 9
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PDF Won't delete - solved ...

[Bryan Forbes]

Thanks guys for the hints ... what I ended up doing was booting into OS 
9, going to my desktop location and trashing it from there.

Again, thanks!

Bryan Forbes
Why do I use a Mac vs. a Wintel box ... it's simple, I get more done in 
less time.

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Re: PDF won't delete ...

[Bob]

Try these, assuming the document is not in the trash:

1) click on the file to highlight it, press Command-I, and see if the
"Locked" checkbox is turned on, if so, then turn it off.

2) click on the folder containing the file and click Command-I. 
Expand the "Ownership & Permissions", in the popup menu for "Owner"
change from read only to read and write.



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Re: Lombard-Pismo frankenmac?

[Richard Smykla]

Chris,

I've installed a Pismo screen in a Lombard with no problems. Of 
course, I had to leave the airport antenna behind, as the screen 
bezel won't accommodate it. I can't really shed any other light on 
your proposed chimera, but it sounds like a serious challenge and 
likely a source of endless frustration. 'Twould be sweet if you could 
get it working though.

Rick


Hi,
I happen to have a Pismo logic board (was tested good) and have the
opportunity to pick up a Lombard diagnosed with dead logic bd. (almost a
freebie).
Any chance the two would work together? ie. after creative cutting to have
the firewire ports accessible thru the scsi port area? And any other
necesessary hacksawing, etc.?
Or is it just completely impossible?
e.g., I seem to remember incompatibilities with the screens... ie. the
screen connectors on the logic boards are in different places and the cables
won't reach; if so, any workaround?
Thanks for any help.

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Lombard-Pismo frankenmac?

[csean]

Hi,
I happen to have a Pismo logic board (was tested good) and have the
opportunity to pick up a Lombard diagnosed with dead logic bd. (almost a
freebie). 

Any chance the two would work together? ie. after creative cutting to have
the firewire ports accessible thru the scsi port area? And any other
necesessary hacksawing, etc.?

Or is it just completely impossible?
e.g., I seem to remember incompatibilities with the screens... ie. the
screen connectors on the logic boards are in different places and the cables
won't reach; if so, any workaround?

Thanks for any help.

Chris


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Re: PDF won't delete ...

[Acting Fire Chief]

Well,
What OS are you running?
Have you tried: Option + empty the trash?

I have an app called "BURN" It can delete anything.

ac


I have a PDF file that won't let me delete it ...

The message I get is:  The item is being used by another task right now.  
(Other tasks include moving, copying, or emptying the Trash).  Try again 
when the other task is complete.

I don't know what the other task is ... I let a friend of mine toy around 
with my Powerbook (trying to introduce him to the Mac OS) and I'm not sure 
what he was trying to do with it.

Restarting hasn't made any difference, I just want to get rid of the file.

TIA

Bryan Forbes

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