Re: Good price for G4 ibook?

[Jason R]

all g4 ibooks are airport extreme
On Mar 24, 2004, at 20:01, Rad Craig wrote:
I looked around Apples site for the specs on this as I wanted to see 
if it
has the AirPort Extreme card in it or the normal Airport card.  If 
it's the
normal card, can I take it out and sell it?

I also didn't see a G4 iBook that was 900mhz, I saw one that was 
933mhz.

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G4 PowerBook bottom

[Rad Craig]

Does anyone have or know where I might find the bottom plastic for a G4
Powerbook?  Apparently it was dropped at one time and broke the connection
piece where the screen latches, just south of the mouse.


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Re: Newertech 6600mAh Battery for Pismo

[Thomas Ethen]

That is on a G3/500 with a Gig of RAM. I get about half an hour more with my
G3/400 with 768 Megs of RAM.

Tom

on 3/24/04 22:47, Thomas Ethen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I get about three hours from mine, two running a DVD!
> 
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Re: Newertech 6600mAh Battery for Pismo

[Thomas Ethen]

I get about three hours from mine, two running a DVD!

Tom

on 3/24/04 22:41, Sam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Anyone buy the Newertech 6600mAh Battery for Pismo? Does it seem like it
> lasts longer than an OEM? Would you say it's worth the money?
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Newertech 6600mAh Battery for Pismo

[Sam]

Anyone buy the Newertech 6600mAh Battery for Pismo? Does it seem like it
lasts longer than an OEM? Would you say it's worth the money?

-Sam


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Re: Printing question

[Gary Adams]

Go into Print Center. Make sure you have the Deskjet software installed 
on the iBook. Select it and you can print to it.

Gary
On Wednesday, March 24, 2004, at 10:19 PM, Jason Cornfeld wrote:
Hey guys, got a weird question. I have an iBook (600 MHZ G3, 640 Ram, 
60 Gig Hd) and I have an original Bondi iMac (233 MHZ) they are 
connected to high speed cable internet. and i can mount the iMac 
volume on my 10.3.3 iBook. (the iMac is running 9.2.2) now here is my 
question. I have a Deskjet 3420 Connected to the usb port on the iMac. 
I have enabled USB Printer sharing in 9.2.2 but on my iBook, I cannot 
see the Printer. i want to print to the iMac's Deskjet 3420. sorry if 
i am rambling but its late and its really confusing me. any ideas?

Cheers!
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Printing question

[Jason Cornfeld]

Hey guys, got a weird question. I have an iBook (600 MHZ G3, 640 Ram, 
60 Gig Hd) and I have an original Bondi iMac (233 MHZ) they are 
connected to high speed cable internet. and i can mount the iMac volume 
on my 10.3.3 iBook. (the iMac is running 9.2.2) now here is my 
question. I have a Deskjet 3420 Connected to the usb port on the iMac. 
I have enabled USB Printer sharing in 9.2.2 but on my iBook, I cannot 
see the Printer. i want to print to the iMac's Deskjet 3420. sorry if i 
am rambling but its late and its really confusing me. any ideas?

Cheers!
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Good price for G4 ibook?

[Rad Craig]

I am thinking about buying a G4 ibook with the following specs:

  a.. 900MHz PowerPC G4
  b.. 256K L2 cache @ 900MHz
  c.. 14-inch TFT Display
  d.. 1024x768 resolution
  e.. 640MB RAM
  f.. 40GB Ultra ATA drive
  g.. Combo Drive
  h.. ATI Mobility Radeon 9200
  i.. 32MB DDR video memory
  j.. Airport Card is installed.
I looked around Apples site for the specs on this as I wanted to see if it
has the AirPort Extreme card in it or the normal Airport card.  If it's the
normal card, can I take it out and sell it?

I also didn't see a G4 iBook that was 900mhz, I saw one that was 933mhz.

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Re: Minor LCD Scratch

[Thomas Ethen]

Hoodwipes from Hoodman do a fair job of filling minor scratches!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00011XAB4/104-7091215-6200769
?v=glance

Tom

on 3/24/04 16:13, Leander Hutton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello I have a minor LCD scratch on my TiPB/867 (it¹s very small, only a few
> pixels) and I was wondering if there was any ³scratch filler² for these
> things or not or something along those lines
> 
> If not I can live with it.  It¹s not that bad just kind of annoying and it
> distorts the color coming out of the screen there.  Just as long is it won¹t
> get bigger ... 
> 
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Re: Minor LCD Scratch

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 24/03/04 17:13, "Leander Hutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello I have a minor LCD scratch on my TiPB/867 (it¹s very small, only a few
> pixels) and I was wondering if there was any ³scratch filler² for these
> things or not or something along those lines
> 
> If not I can live with it.  It¹s not that bad just kind of annoying and it
> distorts the color coming out of the screen there.  Just as long is it won¹t
> get bigger ... 

You could try to polish the area using KlearScreen. It might improve the LCD
and reduce the crack.

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Minor LCD Scratch

[Leander Hutton]

Hello I have a minor LCD scratch on my TiPB/867 (it¹s very small, only a few
pixels) and I was wondering if there was any ³scratch filler² for these
things or not or something along those lines

If not I can live with it.  It¹s not that bad just kind of annoying and it
distorts the color coming out of the screen there.  Just as long is it won¹t
get bigger ... 

Leander


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Re: 9.2

[Susan Platter]

It doesn't seem to matter, unless you are unlucky, as my Wallstreet had 
OS X installed, then I installed OS 9 afterwards.
Susan
Swindon, Wiltshire
England

On 24 Mar, 2004, at 15:54, G-Books wrote:
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From: dan_A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 9.2
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:18:50 -0500
On Mar 24, 2004, at 9:10 AM, michael Vogt wrote:

I have forgot this do you have to 9.2 on the HD before you  put X on
to use classic. or can you x on first then put 9.2 ?
Michael & Sharon  Vogt <><


Michael,

You must have 9.2 installed first. You cant install an older OS over a
newer one. I bought my Tbook from someone who only had Panther
installed and i had to wipe out the hd to install 9.2.2. It also
provided an opportunity to partition the hd.
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Re: Wallstreet bottom

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 24, 2004, at 11:17 AM, Rad Craig wrote:

Ok, I've got all of that out and see the top stick of memory, how do I 
get to the bottom stick?

Rad...
You need to pull the daughter card with the processor on it.

!!!Gently!!! pry up the daughter card with a small screwdriver from the 
hdd side, it should come out with very minimal resistance.

Here's a site with some 
guidance.

I've done this a number of times...the one thing that's gotten me is 
forgetting to flip over the little wire handle on the heat sink into 
it's recess. The keyboard will snap in but will feel mushy and bow up 
in the middle if you don't do that.

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Re: Wallstreet bottom

[Wayne]

> Ok, I've got all of that out and see the top stick of memory, how do I
> get to the bottom stick?
> 
> Rad...

The memory resides on a removable daughtercard, you will need to lift it out
(pull straight up carefully). Flip the card over and the bottom memory is
there.

Wayne


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Re: 9.2

[Clark Martin]

At 7:10 AM -0700 3/24/04, michael Vogt wrote:
I have forgot this do you have to 9.2 on the HD before you  put X on 
to use classic. or can you x on first then put 9.2 ?


You can do it either way.
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Re: Wallstreet bottom

[Rad Craig]

Ok, I've got all of that out and see the top stick of memory, how do I 
get to the bottom stick?

Rad...

Bruce Johnson wrote:

On Mar 24, 2004, at 9:46 AM, Rad Craig wrote:

I want to add some memory to my Wallstreet.  I have removed all of the
screws from the bottom and the CD and battery.  It seems to still be
attached in the front, where the screen latches.  How to I get this 
thing
apart to get to the memory?


First put all of those back in the bottom, then follow the directions 
here 

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Re: Wallstreet bottom

[Rad Craig]

Thanks all, for the help.  I keep forgetting, these are Macs and I tend 
to make things more difficult than they need to be.  I was upgrading the 
memory in an iMac yesterday, that I'm selling, and had the thing 
practically completely disassembled before I realized there were two 
small screws and a handle and it all slid out easily.  Stupid 15 years 
in the PC industry...

Rad...

Bruce Johnson wrote:

On Mar 24, 2004, at 9:46 AM, Rad Craig wrote:

I want to add some memory to my Wallstreet.  I have removed all of the
screws from the bottom and the CD and battery.  It seems to still be
attached in the front, where the screen latches.  How to I get this 
thing
apart to get to the memory?


First put all of those back in the bottom, then follow the directions 
here 

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Re: 9.2

[Jeff Hubatka]

From: dan_A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 9.2
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:18:50 -0500
On Mar 24, 2004, at 9:10 AM, michael Vogt wrote:

I have forgot this do you have to 9.2 on the HD before you  put X on
to use classic. or can you x on first then put 9.2 ?
Michael & Sharon  Vogt <><


Michael,

You must have 9.2 installed first. You cant install an older OS over a
newer one. I bought my Tbook from someone who only had Panther
installed and i had to wipe out the hd to install 9.2.2. It also
provided an opportunity to partition the hd.
dan_A

I installed 10.2 on my iBook, and later just copied over a 9.2 System 
Folder from my iMac so I could do something in Classic. I can also use 
that as a startup option. One thing you have to remember to do when 
installing OSX first is to check the box to install OS9 drivers on the 
disk, too.

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Re: Compare Apple to Orange (err.. I mean Pentium)

[Tom Burke]

On Wednesday, March 24, 2004, at 03:54  pm, G-Books wrote:

Subject: Re: Compare Apple to Orange (err.. I mean Pentium)

A long time ago, a P3 had to be almost double the clock speed of a G3
to be equal (in some things).  When the P4s came out, they had to be
double the speed of a P3 to compete with the P3!   Part of that was
because the P4s had a longer pipeline to get a higher clock speed,
and part was because right after it was released the compilers had
not been optimized for the P4.   The G4 is faster than the G3 for
some things--and with those things its a LOT faster.
So a 1.2Ghz G3 should be 4 times faster than the 600Mhz P3, and for a
few things, the G4 will be maybe 10 times faster  on some things.
But this all depends on cache size, and location and a bunch of other
things---like your disk drive.   The different G4 laptops have
different speeds unrelated to the chip speeds.
If you have a 600MhzG3 it's probably really old, and so everything on
the new machine will be a lot better in every way.
You have to hand it to Intel (and AMD, for that matter) - they've 
overcome all the (theoretical) limitations and handicaps of their 
original CISC design by a) significant redesign yet somehow maintaining 
compatibility, and above all b) pushing the cpu speed up to 
extraordinary levels.

Hopefully IBM will be able to emulate this aspect of Intel's 
performance with regard to the PPC 970 cpu and its siblings.

Tom Burke

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Re: Memory problem

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 24/03/04 12:31, "Hector I Macedo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks to al for your help on this problem, I'm calling OWC to get an
> exchange (for the 3rd time).

And tell them to get it right this time!

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Re: Memory problem

[Hector I Macedo]

Thanks to al for your help on this problem, I'm calling OWC to get an 
exchange (for the 3rd time).

Grrr

Hector I. Macedo  "Lord of the 
Flies"	
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Re: 9.2

[Don]

Thanks, Bruce. My friend will be pleased!

Bruce Johnson wrote:

> On Mar 24, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Don wrote:
>
> >
> > So my friend with 9.1 needs to upgrade to 9.2 before installing X,
> > right?
>
> No. 9.1 is compatible with OSX.
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Re: Memory problem

[Hector I Macedo]

Andrew said :  That's an OS X kernel panic, and bad or incorrect
memory is the most common cause.
Andrew

Thanks Andrew, thats what I was thinking, this is a new chip that I was 
sent as a replacement for an older one that was not working with 10.2

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Re: Memory problem

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On 24/03/04 12:21, "Hector I Macedo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Laurent, yes, I have in that slot a 64 m  chip which works ok, it
> happens as soon as I install the 232 m memory chip.
> 
> I have swapped them at leas 3 times and its always the same result.
> 
> I should mention that I had before another 232 chip which did not want
> to work on 10.2 so I called OWC and they sent me this one as a
> warranty, but its doing that now.

You probably mean a "256MB" chip? From what you're saying, the chip has gone
bad. I would try to have it exchanged again...

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Re: Memory problem

[Hector I Macedo]

Hi Laurent, yes, I have in that slot a 64 m  chip which works ok, it 
happens as soon as I install the 232 m memory chip.

I have swapped them at leas 3 times and its always the same result.

I should mention that I had before another 232 chip which did not want 
to work on 10.2 so I called OWC and they sent me this one as a 
warranty, but its doing that now.

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Re: Wallstreet bottom

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 24, 2004, at 9:46 AM, Rad Craig wrote:

I want to add some memory to my Wallstreet.  I have removed all of the
screws from the bottom and the CD and battery.  It seems to still be
attached in the front, where the screen latches.  How to I get this 
thing
apart to get to the memory?
First put all of those back in the bottom, then follow the directions 
here 

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Re: Wallstreet bottom

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 24/03/04 11:46, "Rad Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I want to add some memory to my Wallstreet.  I have removed all of the
> screws from the bottom and the CD and battery.  It seems to still be
> attached in the front, where the screen latches.  How to I get this thing
> apart to get to the memory?

You don't need to remove the bottom case. You have to pull the keyboard,
then remove the magnetic shield and you'll have direct access to the
processor daughtercard. If you want to replace the top slot memory, you
don't even have to pull the daughtercard.

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Re: 9.2

[Bruce Johnson]

On Mar 24, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Don wrote:

dan_A wrote:



You must have 9.2 installed first. You cant install an older OS over a
newer one. I bought my Tbook from someone who only had Panther
installed and i had to wipe out the hd to install 9.2.2. It also
provided an opportunity to partition the hd.
dan_A

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So my friend with 9.1 needs to upgrade to 9.2 before installing X, 
right?
No. 9.1 is compatible with OSX.

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Re: Wallstreet bottom

[Wayne]

> I want to add some memory to my Wallstreet.  I have removed all of the
> screws from the bottom and the CD and battery.  It seems to still be
> attached in the front, where the screen latches.  How to I get this thing
> apart to get to the memory?
> 
> Rad...

Rad:

What memory are you trying to get at? The system memory is under the
keyboard which you access the release inside each of the battery/cd
compartments (spring loaded slides, one each side). These pop up the
keyboard and you carefully lift it out of the way (there still is a ribbon
attached). The memory is under a steel plate held down by one screw, it is
in the center, you can't miss it. Once the plate is removed, you will see
the memory card, one stick is accessed from top, if you want to put a second
one, you remove the card and it is underneath. The bottom slot requires low
profile ram to fit.


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Re: 9.2

[Don]

dan_A wrote:



>
> You must have 9.2 installed first. You cant install an older OS over a
> newer one. I bought my Tbook from someone who only had Panther
> installed and i had to wipe out the hd to install 9.2.2. It also
> provided an opportunity to partition the hd.
>
> dan_A
>
> --

So my friend with 9.1 needs to upgrade to 9.2 before installing X, right?

Thanks


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Wallstreet bottom

[Rad Craig]

I want to add some memory to my Wallstreet.  I have removed all of the
screws from the bottom and the CD and battery.  It seems to still be
attached in the front, where the screen latches.  How to I get this thing
apart to get to the memory?

Rad...




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Re: Compare Apple to Orange (err.. I mean Pentium)

[Hal]

On Mar 23, 2004, at 9:26 PM, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Clyde Kahrl wrote:

A long time ago, a P3 had to be almost double the clock speed of a G3
to be equal (in some things).  When the P4s came out, they had to be
double the speed of a P3 to compete with the P3!
You lost me there in that last sentence.  Did you mean P4 or G4?  I 
think
you meant "When the G4s came out they had to be double the speed of 
the P3
to compete with the G4"
No, when the P4 fist came out, various benchmarks showed that the P4 
was slower than the P3 when compared at identical clock speeds. 
Significantly slower. They've ramped up the clock speeds to compensate 
for this.


Check out XLR8  your mac.
As a place to buy a mac or are you suggesting their products?  Sorry, 
my
brain is still a bit lagged I fear.

No, www.xlr8yourmac.com is a great resource for the Mac community. 
Check it out for info on CPUs, hard drives, etc.

-Hal

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Re: 9.2

[kcypher42]

-Original Message-
>From: dan_A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Mar 24, 2004 10:18 AM
>To: G-Books <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: 9.2
>
>On Mar 24, 2004, at 9:10 AM, michael Vogt wrote:
>
>> I have forgot this do you have to 9.2 on the HD before you  put X on 
>> to use classic. or can you x on first then put 9.2 ?
>>
>> Michael & Sharon  Vogt <><
>>
>>
>Michael,
>
>You must have 9.2 installed first. You cant install an older OS over a 
>newer one. I bought my Tbook from someone who only had Panther 
>installed and i had to wipe out the hd to install 9.2.2. It also 
>provided an opportunity to partition the hd.
>
>dan_A

That's funny, I did a clean install of OSX on my iBook and forgot to install OS9 
first.  I booted from my OS9 CD, installed it, then booted back into OSX, and the next 
time I ran a Classic app, it said it was adding something to the classic startup 
config (or something like that, I didn't write the message down), and it's been 
working fine ever since.  Since they're so different, you're not really installing OS9 
over OSX, more like you're installing it next to OSX.

As always, your results may vary,
Kurt




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Re: 9.2

[dan_A]

On Mar 24, 2004, at 9:10 AM, michael Vogt wrote:

I have forgot this do you have to 9.2 on the HD before you  put X on 
to use classic. or can you x on first then put 9.2 ?

Michael & Sharon  Vogt <><


Michael,

You must have 9.2 installed first. You cant install an older OS over a 
newer one. I bought my Tbook from someone who only had Panther 
installed and i had to wipe out the hd to install 9.2.2. It also 
provided an opportunity to partition the hd.

dan_A

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Re: Memory problem

[Andrew]

That's an OS X kernel panic, and bad or incorrect
memory is the most common cause.

Andrew


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> > Wallstreet 292, It will start the normal routine
> and when I try to
> > start any program, a "veil" comes down making the
> screen darker and a
> > dialog on several languages appear, telling me to
> restart the computer,
> > when I do that,  it repeats itself at nauseum.
> > 
> > Any cures? Comments?
> 
> Have you tried to remove that 256MB and is it
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9.2

[michael Vogt]

I have forgot this do you have to 9.2 on the HD before you  put X on to 
use classic. or can you x on first then put 9.2 ?

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Re: Memory problem

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on 24/03/04 07:42, Hector I Macedo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I just received and tried a new 256 megs on the upper slot of a
> Wallstreet 292, It will start the normal routine and when I try to
> start any program, a "veil" comes down making the screen darker and a
> dialog on several languages appear, telling me to restart the computer,
> when I do that,  it repeats itself at nauseum.
> 
> Any cures? Comments?

Have you tried to remove that 256MB and is it happening without it?

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Memory problem

[Hector I Macedo]

I just received and tried a new 256 megs on the upper slot of a 
Wallstreet 292, It will start the normal routine and when I try to 
start any program, a "veil" comes down making the screen darker and a 
dialog on several languages appear, telling me to restart the computer, 
when I do that,  it repeats itself at nauseum.

Any cures? Comments?

Hector I. Macedo  "Lord of the 
Flies"	
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