Re: XCode / gcc optimization

2004-11-25 Thread raoul reyes
Try the xcode list
 http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/projectbuilder-users
hope this helps.
On Nov 24, 2004, at 3:56 AM, Pete Gregory wrote:
Sorry if this is a liittle off topic.  If it is, pointers in the right 
direction greatfully appreciated

A while back I knocked up some math benchmarks on my trusty G3 Pismo 
under Metrowerks CodeWarrior (a somewhat out of date(vanilla C) 
version which came out for 603/604e era)... and was pleasantly 
surprised to see it performed these tasks faster than a Win2000 laptop 
(1GHz P4) and Sun Ultra60.

I've now upgraded to a G4/450 based Mac and purchased OSX which so far 
is great.  The old compiled code runs OK under classic.  I tried 
recompiling these benchmarks under gcc ( x-code) using the -O3 flag 
and set up for a G4.  The surprise is that these takes FIVE TIMES 
LONGER when recompiled than the old code under classic.

Are there any suggestions to better optimization flags etc or other 
(preferably free/cheap) compilers out there?

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IceBook PowerAdapter trouble (again) ???

2004-11-25 Thread Larry le Mac
Any ideas about the IceBook (500MHz) which runs ONLY
on battery power and not with the Power adapter plugged
in ? The adapter is ok, but when plugged in the iBook
doesn't run, even if it was running fine on battery when
it was plugged in...
???
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Re: XCode / gcc optimization

2004-11-25 Thread Tim Hodgson
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 7:56 pm -0500, Pete Gregory wrote:

I've now upgraded to a G4/450 based Mac and purchased OSX which so far 
is great.  The old compiled code runs OK under classic.  I tried 
recompiling these benchmarks under gcc ( x-code) using the -O3 flag and 
set up for a G4.  The surprise is that these takes FIVE TIMES LONGER 
when recompiled than the old code under classic.

Are there any suggestions to better optimization flags etc or other 
(preferably free/cheap) compilers out there?

No specific suggestions, but you might want to search the archives of a
couple of Apple lists: 

Scitech - http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/scitech

Unix-porting - http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/unix-porting

(I know you're not porting from unix but a lot of compiler discussions
come up there.)

And if you don't come up with anything it's definitely worth posting to
scitech - lots of helpful people.

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Re: XCode / gcc optimization

2004-11-25 Thread Tim Hodgson
Just to add to my first post, I just had a look at snippets I'd saved
from the scitech list: one recommendation is to use -fast rather than -O3.

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Re: IceBook PowerAdapter trouble (again) ???

2004-11-25 Thread hamletusmc
From:   Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

Any ideas about the IceBook (500MHz) which runs ONLY
on battery power and not with the Power adapter plugged
in ? The adapter is ok, but when plugged in the iBook
doesn't run, even if it was running fine on battery when
it was plugged in...

???

Larry

Well when that happened to my 3400 I just had to solder the contacts where the 
power adapter plugs in to the logic board.

...but...  I don't know if I'd recommend taking apart an icebook that far.  I 
had a G3/800 iBook that had the logic board failure after the one year warrenty 
ended but before they issued the recall. 

Before the iBook I never bothered getting Apple Care because I fixed anything 
that went wrong myself.  I had never totally disassembled an icebook so figured 
since it was dead I might as well give it a shot.
Ended up having to drill and use an easy out on the bottom middle screw on it 
which though it worked left obvious scuffing. After tearing that thing apart I 
promptly ordered a new G4 iBook and got the Apple Care. I didn't even bother 
attempting to put that sucker back together.  I just shrinkwrapped all the 
screws and parts in case I ever got another one and needed a battery, keyboard, 
display or other items that would be easily replacable.

Of course then a month later Apple does the recall and it now covers my shrink 
wrapped bundle of G3 iBook.  By that time I was humming along nicely on my G4 
iBook and didn't want to attempt to put that jigsaw puzzle back together again.

I'm die hard Apple Care now with the newer stuff.

Though I'll still perform surgery on my 3400 or iMacs in a heartbeat ;-D

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Re: Dead Wallstreet

2004-11-25 Thread Bob
The National Enquirer reports at 5:28 PM -0800 11/24/04, Clark Martin wrote:

At 4:18 PM -0700 11/24/04, Bob wrote:
 The National Enquirer reports at 4:30 PM -0800 11/23/04, Tom Peterson wrote:
 
 With all due sympathy, My wallstreet does not like to wake from sleep.
 It does however reboot to OS9 when this happens. I have replaced the
 hard drive on my poor beast and that has caused me to recommend the
 following voodoo trick. Take a metal object ( I have used pocket
 knives, watches, tiny magnets be verwwy cawwfull here and pass it
 along the right hand side of the wallstreet while holding down the
 power on/off button. The portion of the side adjacent to the keyboard
 seems to be more significant than the portion of the right side of the
 palm rest, mouse pad. Repeat a couple of times before abandoning. Good
 luck.
 
 Tom,
 I think I can at least help you solve your problem.
 
 I'm willing to bet that you replaced your H.D. with a IBM/Hitachi
 drive. That's not the only brand that has caused sleep problems in
 the Wallstreet, but it's one of the most infamous.
 
 The problem is a magnet within the drive that lines up with and
 confuses the magnetic sleep sensor located on the Wallstreet in the
 area between the Delete and Return keys. Thus the wakeup problems
 with the PB.
 
 Once you understand the problem, the solution is fairly simple. In
 fact, there are 2 or 3 solutions. You have discovered one of them --
 the kitchen magnet swipe. But that's a pain the butt IMPO. I prefer a
 more permanent solution.

I have a  Wallstreet with a 40Gb IBM/Hitachi drive installed and it
has the won't wake from sleep problem.  I use a simple fix.  I open
the lid and rotate the laptop about it's vertical axis while tapping
the shift key.

Would that be clock-wise or counter clock-wise?

The magnet is just barely holding the lid sensor in
the closed state, changing the polarity of the Earth's magnetic field
is enough to clear the sensor.

When do you sacrifice the live chicken? bg

I guess I'm out of touch. After the one-time tape solution, I just 
press the shift key and it wakes right up.

At least the OP has a number of options from which to choose.

Oh BTW do you need to sacrifice a particular kind of chicken? :-)


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Re: IceBook PowerAdapter trouble (again) ???

2004-11-25 Thread Larry le Mac
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...but...  I don't know if I'd recommend taking apart an icebook that far.
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Re: Dead Wallstreet

2004-11-25 Thread Tom Peterson
I have tried this. In Seattle the flux lines appear to be insufficiently
present to accomplish this chicken saving maneuver. It does not work on my
wallstreet. Not that I am not happy for you. Happy Thanksgiving, Y'all.


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From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clark Martin
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 5:28 PM
To: G-Books
Subject: Re: Dead Wallstreet

At 4:18 PM -0700 11/24/04, Bob wrote:
The National Enquirer reports at 4:30 PM -0800 11/23/04, Tom Peterson
wrote:
SNIP

I have a  Wallstreet with a 40Gb IBM/Hitachi drive installed and it 
has the won't wake from sleep problem.  I use a simple fix.  I open 
the lid and rotate the laptop about it's vertical axis while tapping 
the shift key.  The magnet is just barely holding the lid sensor in 
the closed state, changing the polarity of the Earth's magnetic field 
is enough to clear the sensor.
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Re: Lombard and OSX? And Panther?

2004-11-25 Thread Art Russell
An in-law is running a Lombard on OSX 10.2.6 without significant problems.

Will a Lombard support Panther, 10.3?


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Re: Lombard and OSX?

2004-11-25 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 25/11/04 12:58, Rad Craig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am looking at buying a Lombard to replace my Wallstreet so I can run OSX
 without problems.  I don't have very much info on this laptop and am trying
 to find the specs on it.  He said it was an m5343, so I believe it's a
 Lombard.  It's a 400mhz.  I have been trying to find the complete specs on
 Apple, but don't know which one it is, they show a bronze and a firewire for
 this speed, how do I tell which one this is?
 
 Will OSX run without problems on this machine?  I've had nothing but
 problems running it...or attempting to run it on my Wallstreet.
 
 Thanks and Happy Turkey Day.
 
 
 Rad...
 
 

The bronze was considered the Lombard. It doesn't have FireWire, just USB.

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Re: Lombard and OSX? And Panther?

2004-11-25 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 25/11/04 16:00, Art Russell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 An in-law is running a Lombard on OSX 10.2.6 without significant problems.
 
 Will a Lombard support Panther, 10.3?
 

I think it does. If I remember correctly, the requirements for Panther call
for built-in USB, so the Lombard would qualify...

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Re: Lombard and OSX?

2004-11-25 Thread Clark Martin
At 11:58 AM -0600 11/25/04, Rad Craig wrote:
I am looking at buying a Lombard to replace my Wallstreet so I can run OSX
without problems.  I don't have very much info on this laptop and am trying
to find the specs on it.  He said it was an m5343, so I believe it's a
Lombard.  It's a 400mhz.  I have been trying to find the complete specs on
Apple, but don't know which one it is, they show a bronze and a firewire for
this speed, how do I tell which one this is?
Will OSX run without problems on this machine?  I've had nothing but
problems running it...or attempting to run it on my Wallstreet.
Bronze is Lombard and Firewire is Pismo.
Panther or Jaguar will run directly a a Lombard.  I did put Panther 
on one but never used it.

Jaguar works fine on my Wallstreet.
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Re: Lombard and OSX?

2004-11-25 Thread Rad Craig
You are probably right, but I'm only doing this because I can get this
laptop, that will allow me to run OSX, without costing me anything.  I can
buy it for $275 and I think I can get that much out of my Wallstreet, or
very close to it.

Of course if you know of any Pismos for sale for $300, let me know and I'll
definitely get one of those instead.  :)

What is the 'family number' of a Pismo?  Like the m5343 for the Lombards.


Rad...

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 Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 3:36 PM
 To: G-Books
 Subject: Re: Lombard and OSX?


 Hi.
 You should buy a Pismo (FireWire), because the Lombard
 is NOT fully supported on OS X.
 Of course, Apple says it's supported (they SELL
 Software, remember?) but the Video Card is NOT, so you
 will not be able to play a DVD decently or run a
 Screensaver (it looks like a Picture SlideShow).
 The Pismo is fully supported and has better
 performance on OS X thanks to the Video support wich
 helps the processor (in Lombards the processor makes
 Everything).
 Thanks Apple !




 --- Rad Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I am looking at buying a Lombard to replace my
  Wallstreet so I can run OSX
  without problems.  I don't have very much info on
  this laptop and am trying
  to find the specs on it.  He said it was an m5343,
  so I believe it's a
  Lombard.  It's a 400mhz.  I have been trying to find
  the complete specs on
  Apple, but don't know which one it is, they show a
  bronze and a firewire for
  this speed, how do I tell which one this is?
 
  Will OSX run without problems on this machine?  I've
  had nothing but
  problems running it...or attempting to run it on my
  Wallstreet.
 
  Thanks and Happy Turkey Day.
 
 
  Rad...
 
 
 
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Broken pismo questions - white display

2004-11-25 Thread Rad Craig
I found a pismo that has some problems.  I think it may be the video card
portion as he says that it boots up fine, but the LCD and any external
display just display white, all uniform in color.  Any ideas of what could
be the problem with this so that I might find a replacement part for the bad
component?

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Re: Lombard and OSX?

2004-11-25 Thread Mary Russell
Bronze is lombard.  My husband has a lombard 333 and I put 10.3.6 on 
it.  It's running exceptionally
fine. 
Mary

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am looking at buying a Lombard to replace my Wallstreet so I can run OSX
without problems.  I don't have very much info on this laptop and am trying
to find the specs on it.  He said it was an m5343, so I believe it's a
Lombard.  It's a 400mhz.  I have been trying to find the complete specs on
Apple, but don't know which one it is, they show a bronze and a firewire for
this speed, how do I tell which one this is?
Will OSX run without problems on this machine?  I've had nothing but
problems running it...or attempting to run it on my Wallstreet.
Thanks and Happy Turkey Day.
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airport question/assistance needed

2004-11-25 Thread kochkodin
Quick question for the list
I am using the original graphite base station and original airport card 
in this Pismo and my imac SE 400 (graphite)...Also hooked into the 
system is my son's Dell w/a wireless card...All working perfectly...My 
other son is now home with his Gateway and we can't seem to get the 
system to allow the network to allow the gateway to transmit/receive the 
signal...When it does see the network, it will not allow anything to be 
connected..We had this same problem when adding the Dell but somehow got 
it to work perfectly..My son asked about replacing the Airport w/ a 
new PC base station and some other type of wireless card...OBviously I 
would prefer to keep the current setup...Any odeas about what needs to 
be done to get the Airport network to see/work with the Gateway???
Regards and TIA,
Mike K

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Re: Lombard and OSX?

2004-11-25 Thread s_ellem
I am running Panther on a 400mhz lombard and it is fine. Video Fine also

Quoting Rad Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 You are probably right, but I'm only doing this because I can get this
 laptop, that will allow me to run OSX, without costing me anything.  I can
 buy it for $275 and I think I can get that much out of my Wallstreet, or
 very close to it.
 
 Of course if you know of any Pismos for sale for $300, let me know and I'll
 definitely get one of those instead.  :)
 
 What is the 'family number' of a Pismo?  Like the m5343 for the Lombards.
 
 
 Rad...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Alejandro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 3:36 PM
  To: G-Books
  Subject: Re: Lombard and OSX?
 
 
  Hi.
  You should buy a Pismo (FireWire), because the Lombard
  is NOT fully supported on OS X.
  Of course, Apple says it's supported (they SELL
  Software, remember?) but the Video Card is NOT, so you
  will not be able to play a DVD decently or run a
  Screensaver (it looks like a Picture SlideShow).
  The Pismo is fully supported and has better
  performance on OS X thanks to the Video support wich
  helps the processor (in Lombards the processor makes
  Everything).
  Thanks Apple !
 
 
 
 
  --- Rad Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I am looking at buying a Lombard to replace my
   Wallstreet so I can run OSX
   without problems.  I don't have very much info on
   this laptop and am trying
   to find the specs on it.  He said it was an m5343,
   so I believe it's a
   Lombard.  It's a 400mhz.  I have been trying to find
   the complete specs on
   Apple, but don't know which one it is, they show a
   bronze and a firewire for
   this speed, how do I tell which one this is?
  
   Will OSX run without problems on this machine?  I've
   had nothing but
   problems running it...or attempting to run it on my
   Wallstreet.
  
   Thanks and Happy Turkey Day.
  
  
   Rad...
  
  
  
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Re: Lombard and OSX?

2004-11-25 Thread Art Russell
All - Thanks for the word on running Panther on a Lombard.

Here's hoping all had a happy Thanksgiving.
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Re: Lombard and OSX?

2004-11-25 Thread gladys pérez-almiroty
thanks. i am about to upgrade my aunt's lombard and it is a relief to 
know it should run without problems.
g
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I am running Panther on a 400mhz lombard and it is fine. Video Fine 
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Re: Lombard and OSX?

2004-11-25 Thread Dan K
Rad Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks:
I am looking at buying a Lombard to replace my Wallstreet so I can run OSX
without problems.  I don't have very much info on this laptop and am trying
to find the specs on it.  He said it was an m5343, so I believe it's a
Lombard.  It's a 400mhz.  I have been trying to find the complete specs on
Apple, but don't know which one it is, they show a bronze and a firewire for
this speed, how do I tell which one this is?

Will OSX run without problems on this machine?  I've had nothing but
problems running it...or attempting to run it on my Wallstreet.
Easiest way distinguish between Pismo and Lombard is to read the name 
printed on the screen bezel. If just PowerBook then it's a Pismo, 
otherwise it's a Lombard.

A 400 Lombard can run any version of X (so far), the later the better.

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Re: airport question/assistance needed

2004-11-25 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 25/11/04 18:04, kochkodin at kochkodin@verizon.net wrote:

 Quick question for the list
 I am using the original graphite base station and original airport card
 in this Pismo and my imac SE 400 (graphite)...Also hooked into the
 system is my son's Dell w/a wireless card...All working perfectly...My
 other son is now home with his Gateway and we can't seem to get the
 system to allow the network to allow the gateway to transmit/receive the
 signal...When it does see the network, it will not allow anything to be
 connected..We had this same problem when adding the Dell but somehow got
 it to work perfectly..My son asked about replacing the Airport w/ a
 new PC base station and some other type of wireless card...OBviously I
 would prefer to keep the current setup...Any odeas about what needs to
 be done to get the Airport network to see/work with the Gateway???

FYI, I've tried to get a Dell Latitude working with my Snow Base station and
after wasting a few evenings of troubleshooting, I gave up. In my case,
there is no way I'm going to replace my ABS. If a computer cannot connect to
my network without any fuss, then it's probably better that way...

-Laurent.
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Re: Lombard and OSX?

2004-11-25 Thread Bob
The National Enquirer reports at 4:30 PM -0600 11/25/04, Rad Craig wrote:

I got 10.2.8 to run on my Wallstreet, it had it on there when I got it, but
didn't come with the CD, but it was VERY flaky, lots of mysterious lockups
(couple times a day) and other problems.  I thought I'd blow it away, do a
clean install with 10.3 and perhaps solve the problems, but I have never
gotten it to finish the install.  I've tried it probably 30+ times with 4
different XPF versions.

Just for the heck of it, I wonder how much memory you had in your 
Wallstreet, and whether you tried any different mem0ry modules in it? 
OS 9 was picker about memory quality than OS 8.5/6 was, and OS 10.2.x 
was picker than OS 9. I've recently run across some reports that 
10.3.x is even more strict when it comes to memory quality.

It's possible to run into install problems if the memory is not up to snuff.

I know I'm a day late and a dollar (or $275 g) short. But just for 
any future consideration.


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AlBook Wacom Graphire @ startup ???

2004-11-25 Thread Larry le Mac
I have an AlBook (1GHz) with a Wacom Graphire II here at work
and some days when I come in and switch it on the graphics
tablet doesn't work forcing me to restart.
How come it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't even though
everything is left plugged in and unchanged  ???
It's a USB device plugged into the left hand port and no other
USB devices are connected.
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