dead hd in oven?
At 9:30 AM -0500 10/2/05, G-Books wrote: Your problem sounds like dry bearings, if you're daring try the oven. Um .. . hate to be too conventional here, but if it were me, I'd try the backup drive as a first option. Oven and freezer definitely No 2. :-) Ben PS Had a Sinclair Spectrum once (remember those?) that only displayed in colour if kept in the fridge. Once it warmed up, it reverted to greyscale! -- The VidaVerde Seed Collection 14 Southdown Avenue, Lewes East Sussex, BN7 1EL Excellent Vegetables For the Kitchen Garden: Illustrated Catalogue at http://www.realseeds.co.uk Or call 01239 821107 for a paper copy. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
..so I caved.. (OT?)
could wait no longer, got a 15 inch PB on order from apple, a custom job, just the base 15 with superdrive, but thats just what I wanted are shipping dates usually accurate, earlier, or later then given for a BTO powerbook? I hope that its not too early to get the upgrade option for tiger when it comes out... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Dead HDD in Freezer: Science Project
On 2/12/05 5:33 AM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the Knowledgeable Person, What are the recommendations, if any, to follow when (or should I even bother) using an electric stove? I don't have access to a gas one, and I'm assuming that this oven idea involves the use of a gas stove. I've already backed up the drive, but now I'm just curious to see if this actually makes the drive work without the noisy bearings keeping everyone up in the house. . .and for how long. In otherwords, the data has been recovered, so I've got nothing to lose. Let me know, Sorry, I lost my recipe for baked hard drive, but I could share one for sushi shareware or grilled trackpad. I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
dantz retrospect vs. carbon copy cloner??
hi, i need some advice. i broke down and bought and external firewire harddrive to back up my alu-book to. i had plannedd on using carbon copy cloner, but it came with dantz retrospect bundled. any opinions on which to use??? TIA george ruta *** When I am working on a problem, I never think about beauty. I think only how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong. --Buckminster Fuller -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
On Saturday, February 12, 2005, at 01:53 AM, Timothy Luoma wrote: On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote: Nothing about the update suggested it would help this, but my Bluetooth mouse, which has been acting up for a week or so, is now suddenly back to its old self. Was this the first restart in a week? Hrm. I'm not sure it might have been. If it starts acting up again I'll restart and see if that helps. Known issue? In various reviews of the Bluetooth keyboard and mouse they've mentioned that rebooting fixed problems like poor tracking and such. -- Wherever you go, there you are. - B. Banzai, Ph.D. Bruce Johnson -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dantz retrospect vs. carbon copy cloner??
I would go with CCC after my previous horrible experience with Retrospect. Yes it is few years back when I spent 3 days trying to restore my startup volume only to find note that their first version had a bug and that I lost my data. That is my little story. +-- + e-mail: musiljan (@at@) mac.com + web:www.lesninoviny.com +-- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
On 10-Feb-05, at 5:14 AM, Marcin Wichary wrote: One of the changes in the 10.3.8 update is an issue in which a PowerBook G4 computer would, on rare occasion, wake from sleep with a black screen and not respond to any keyboard, mouse, or trackpad input. Hope this will resolve the problem that affected some of the people here (incl. me)... I used to have that sleeping sickness with my G3 tower, but I finally zapped...something...and it worked. That was while running Jaguar, though. My 12 Powerbook would freeze like that if it was asleep and you accidentally pulled the power cord out of the wall while it was still attached to the machine...is this just how they work and you shouldn't do that, an issue with certain Powerbooks, or something weird with my old machine? I don't know if my iBook will do that, too, I'm afraid to check! -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Wallstreet not behaving
Lately my WS 292, OS 10.2.8 has started doing something weird: It will start ok a few times but from time to time it will not start, it will just make a small click click when the button is pressed. If I try with the battery the clicking is slow, and if is on ac current the clicking will be very fast. I found that the only way to make it re-start is to physically unplug the hard drive and the card where the memoty goes and then re-plug them Does this ring a bell to someone? Thanks .Hector I. Macedo Lord of the Flies Dallas, TX 75248 Piscaro Itaque dicet mendacium Then round his hook the chosen fur he winds, And on the back a speckled feather binds; So just the colours shine through ev'ry part, That nature seems to live again in art. John Gay Rural Sports 1720 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Dead HDD in Freezer: Science Project
On Feb 12, 2005, at 5:33 AM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: To the Knowledgeable Person, What are the recommendations, if any, to follow when (or should I even bother) using an electric stove? I don't have access to a gas one, and I'm assuming that this oven idea involves the use of a gas stove. Whether gas or electric should not matter. The important thing is to make sure the thermostat works so it will maintain this temperature. Stick a thermometer in the oven if you're not sure about reliability of thermostat. Peter -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Frozen Dead HD
Hey, Listers, I can't vouch for notebook HD's, but I have frozen a regular Ultra IDE HD and extracted some, but not all, the data from it. This process can work, but probably not all the time. My two cents worth. . . Scott Birdwell DeFalco's Home Wine Beer Supplies Houston TX www.defalcos.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Mac OS X 10.3.8 update.
On Feb 11, 2005, at 4:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 11, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote: Nothing about the update suggested it would help this, but my Bluetooth mouse, which has been acting up for a week or so, is now suddenly back to its old self. Was this the first restart in a week? Hrm. I'm not sure it might have been. If it starts acting up again I'll restart and see if that helps. Known issue? TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet not behaving
I had that happen to me, I reseated the main connection in the middle under the keyboard and it stopped, Adi -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Dead HDD in Freezer: Science Project
So, Besides all these odd recommendations involving freezers and stoves, I guess nobody ever tried actually opening up a HDD and replace the bearings? Is this one of those things that's simply not done? Are drives made in a way that prevents this? And on that note, wouldn't it be cool if HDD manufacturers could make their drives with a little hole on the top or bottom where the user could plop a dap of oil once a year to keep the bearings in top shape? Just a thought. . . Z -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Dead HDD in Freezer: Science Project
My Reply follows quote. On 12/02/2005 16:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So, Besides all these odd recommendations involving freezers and stoves, I guess nobody ever tried actually opening up a HDD and replace the bearings? Is this one of those things that's simply not done? Are drives made in a way that prevents this? And on that note, wouldn't it be cool if HDD manufacturers could make their drives with a little hole on the top or bottom where the user could plop a dap of oil once a year to keep the bearings in top shape? Just a thought. . . Z Unless you have a certified clean room and the proper tools, you will probably only have limited success. The tolerances are so tight that a small speck of dust can crash the heads and destroy the surface of the disk itself. Not a project of the faint of heart. Ken -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet not behaving
Adi, what do you mean with the mean connection? The one that is under the card? Thanks Hector On Feb 12, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Adrian Carter wrote: I had that happen to me, I reseated the main connection in the middle under the keyboard and it stopped, Adi -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- Hector I. Macedo Lord of the Flies Dallas, TX 75248 Piscaro Itaque dicet mendacium Then round his hook the chosen fur he winds, And on the back a speckled feather binds; So just the colours shine through ev'ry part, That nature seems to live again in art. John Gay Rural Sports 1720 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ..so I caved.. (OT?)
On Feb 12, 2005, at 5:14 AM, Jason Rife wrote: are shipping dates usually accurate, earlier, or later then given for a BTO powerbook? The shipping date was accurate for me, but the FedEx Delivery Date is really an Estimated Delivery Date and mine was a day later than originally posted. That was last April, and I ordered them the day that the new models were announced, a BTO. FWIW TjL ps - not OT at all, IMO :^) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ..so I caved.. (OT?)
on 12/02/05 22:03, Timothy Luoma at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 12, 2005, at 5:14 AM, Jason Rife wrote: are shipping dates usually accurate, earlier, or later then given for a BTO powerbook? The shipping date was accurate for me, but the FedEx Delivery Date is really an Estimated Delivery Date and mine was a day later than originally posted. That was last April, and I ordered them the day that the new models were announced, a BTO. My 17 arrived from Taiwan 1 day before the shipping date they gave me. That was from the Apple Store, BTO... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] frag n.,v.: [from Vietnam-era U.S. military slang via the games Doom and Quake] 1. To kill another player's avatar in a multiuser game. I hold the office Quake record with 40 frags. 2. To completely ruin something. Forget that power supply, the lightning strike fragged it. See also gib. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ..so I caved.. (OT?)
My iPod was the same way, in my hands one day before it was supposed to ship (engraved, shipped from Shanghai). My wife's iPod mini (green, also engraved), on the other hand, shipped when Apple said it would and was in my hands exactly when FedEx's website said it would be. For my PowerBook, I just couldn't wait, so I called every Apple Store in the Los Angeles area until the new ones were in. I ended up getting it February 2nd, and have been loving it ever since. By the way, I know that the larger models have improved keyboard illumination, but is the keyboard itself different? My new 12 keys feel a lot better and are much quieter than my old 12 was, and I already thought that the old one was close to perfection. Andrew On 2/12/05 7:44 PM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/02/05 22:03, Timothy Luoma at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 12, 2005, at 5:14 AM, Jason Rife wrote: are shipping dates usually accurate, earlier, or later then given for a BTO powerbook? The shipping date was accurate for me, but the FedEx Delivery Date is really an Estimated Delivery Date and mine was a day later than originally posted. That was last April, and I ordered them the day that the new models were announced, a BTO. My 17 arrived from Taiwan 1 day before the shipping date they gave me. That was from the Apple Store, BTO... -Laurent. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
I see good and bad to having the ports on the side. Having just sold my Pismo (and still having a Lombard in the family, not to mention a ThinkPad) I do like the rear-mounted ports when sitting at a desk with stuff plugged in. However, when actually plugging something in, like my iPod, camera or other peripheral that is not always there, the side-mounted port is easier to locate and use without disrupting the PowerBook. Duplicate ports would be great, but would make for too large a machine and would also be unsightly. I think I am leaning towards Apple's current side-mounted ports because I usually just use the laptop as-is, and I love the drop-down hinge for flying, making a lower overall profile (bad for neck and shoulders) that is less prone to passenger-in-front-reclining syndrome. Andrew On 2/12/05 8:12 PM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Just wanted to share this little tid-bit. . . I was about the purchase the new 15 PowerBook with the SuperDrive. Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I noticed at the last minute. All of the connectivity ports for the new PB's are on the side, like most iBooks. Why doesn't Apple make a PowerBook like the Pismo, Lombard, etc. and put the ports in the back? The way I've got my Pismo set up at home, every port, with the exception for the audio in, video out and modem, are connected. Granted, my internet is wireless, but still; if I had the new model, I'd have a bunch of unsightly wires sticking out the side. I'm greedy when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. The 17 didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first laptop that had a full sized keyboard. . . complete with a 10 key. There's room on the 17 for this. . .instead the 17 just has odd looking spaces on both sides of the keyboard, not to mention ports on the side. Ugh. . . I'm optimistic though, and not in a rush; at the moment, I have no need for any more VRAM, which to me is the main reason to sell off the Pismo. Plus, with the G4/550 from FastMac installed, my Pismo is zooming. I think I'll wait to see if the new PowerBook G5 models have the features that still sets apart the Pismo and the like from the others. (fingers crossed.) Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
on 12/02/05 23:12, Zoltan Batiz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Just wanted to share this little tid-bit. . . I was about the purchase the new 15 PowerBook with the SuperDrive. Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I noticed at the last minute. All of the connectivity ports for the new PB's are on the side, like most iBooks. Why doesn't Apple make a PowerBook like the Pismo, Lombard, etc. and put the ports in the back? The way I've got my Pismo set up at home, every port, with the exception for the audio in, video out and modem, are connected. Granted, my internet is wireless, but still; if I had the new model, I'd have a bunch of unsightly wires sticking out the side. I'm greedy when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. The 17 didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first laptop that had a full sized keyboard. . . complete with a 10 key. There's room on the 17 for this. . .instead the 17 just has odd looking spaces on both sides of the keyboard, not to mention ports on the side. Ugh. . . I'm optimistic though, and not in a rush; at the moment, I have no need for any more VRAM, which to me is the main reason to sell off the Pismo. Plus, with the G4/550 from FastMac installed, my Pismo is zooming. I think I'll wait to see if the new PowerBook G5 models have the features that still sets apart the Pismo and the like from the others. (fingers crossed.) I went from a Pismo to a 17 and I think I actually prefer the ports on the side. Whenever you make a connection, you don't have to get behind the PowerBook, or stand up above it to see where you're plugging the connector. As for the keyboard, I think it's a big improvement over the Pismo's keyboard. It's seems a little stiffer which I do like since I kinda of punch the keys maybe harder than the average people. Plus, don't forget that the space on each side of the keyboard is used to house the speakers and the microphone. Don't hold your breath for the G5 PowerBooks, you could die of suffocation... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] frag n.,v.: [from Vietnam-era U.S. military slang via the games Doom and Quake] 1. To kill another player's avatar in a multiuser game. I hold the office Quake record with 40 frags. 2. To completely ruin something. Forget that power supply, the lightning strike fragged it. See also gib. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
On Feb 12, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Andrew F. wrote: I see good and bad to having the ports on the side. Having just sold my Pismo (and still having a Lombard in the family, not to mention a ThinkPad) I do like the rear-mounted ports when sitting at a desk with stuff plugged in. However, when actually plugging something in, like my iPod, camera or other peripheral that is not always there, the side-mounted port is easier to locate and use without disrupting the PowerBook. Duplicate ports would be great, but would make for too large a machine and would also be unsightly. I think I am leaning towards Apple's current side-mounted ports because I usually just use the laptop as-is, and I love the drop-down hinge for flying, making a lower overall profile (bad for neck and shoulders) that is less prone to passenger-in-front-reclining syndrome. Andrew On 2/12/05 8:12 PM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Just wanted to share this little tid-bit. . . I was about the purchase the new 15 PowerBook with the SuperDrive. Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I noticed at the last minute. All of the connectivity ports for the new PB's are on the side, like most iBooks. Why doesn't Apple make a PowerBook like the Pismo, Lombard, etc. and put the ports in the back? The way I've got my Pismo set up at home, every port, with the exception for the audio in, video out and modem, are connected. Granted, my internet is wireless, but still; if I had the new model, I'd have a bunch of unsightly wires sticking out the side. I'm greedy when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. The 17 didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first laptop that had a full sized keyboard. . . complete with a 10 key. There's room on the 17 for this. . .instead the 17 just has odd looking spaces on both sides of the keyboard, not to mention ports on the side. Ugh. . . I'm optimistic though, and not in a rush; at the moment, I have no need for any more VRAM, which to me is the main reason to sell off the Pismo. Plus, with the G4/550 from FastMac installed, my Pismo is zooming. I think I'll wait to see if the new PowerBook G5 models have the features that still sets apart the Pismo and the like from the others. (fingers crossed.) Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER Well, for the most part, I agree with you Andrew as far as access goes. But, then I have two USB powered hubs and two Firewire hubs as well. I hardly ever have to give my Pismo a reach around unless I'm taking it with me out in the field. Z -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
I use mine mostly as a portable (hence choosing the 12 over the 15 or 17), and rarely plug anything in at all, except for my iPod, camera or AC power. I never really got the whole desktop replacement thing. If I want to work at my desk, that's what my desktop Power Mac is for, which easily plays nice with my PowerBook using the PB in target disk mode. Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: New iBooks/PB's compared to Pismo's, etc.
on 12/02/05 23:44, Zoltan Batiz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 12, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Andrew F. wrote: I see good and bad to having the ports on the side. Having just sold my Pismo (and still having a Lombard in the family, not to mention a ThinkPad) I do like the rear-mounted ports when sitting at a desk with stuff plugged in. However, when actually plugging something in, like my iPod, camera or other peripheral that is not always there, the side-mounted port is easier to locate and use without disrupting the PowerBook. Duplicate ports would be great, but would make for too large a machine and would also be unsightly. I think I am leaning towards Apple's current side-mounted ports because I usually just use the laptop as-is, and I love the drop-down hinge for flying, making a lower overall profile (bad for neck and shoulders) that is less prone to passenger-in-front-reclining syndrome. Andrew On 2/12/05 8:12 PM, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Just wanted to share this little tid-bit. . . I was about the purchase the new 15 PowerBook with the SuperDrive. Everything was a go. . . except for one little hardware feature I noticed at the last minute. All of the connectivity ports for the new PB's are on the side, like most iBooks. Why doesn't Apple make a PowerBook like the Pismo, Lombard, etc. and put the ports in the back? The way I've got my Pismo set up at home, every port, with the exception for the audio in, video out and modem, are connected. Granted, my internet is wireless, but still; if I had the new model, I'd have a bunch of unsightly wires sticking out the side. I'm greedy when it comes to screen real-estate, so I always have two monitors. The 17 didn't appeal to me due to the poorly designed keyboard. I couldn't believe that Apple never considered making the worlds first laptop that had a full sized keyboard. . . complete with a 10 key. There's room on the 17 for this. . .instead the 17 just has odd looking spaces on both sides of the keyboard, not to mention ports on the side. Ugh. . . I'm optimistic though, and not in a rush; at the moment, I have no need for any more VRAM, which to me is the main reason to sell off the Pismo. Plus, with the G4/550 from FastMac installed, my Pismo is zooming. I think I'll wait to see if the new PowerBook G5 models have the features that still sets apart the Pismo and the like from the others. (fingers crossed.) Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER Well, for the most part, I agree with you Andrew as far as access goes. But, then I have two USB powered hubs and two Firewire hubs as well. I hardly ever have to give my Pismo a reach around unless I'm taking it with me out in the field. That's maybe the reason why we have different opinions; I take my PowerBook to work every weekday. Even if I have a wired Ethernet network of 100Mbits, I almost always use AirPort at home because that's one less wire to connect. I'm pretty much like Andrew. Most of the time, the only thing plugged in is the adapter. Sometimes I'll use the scanner or the iPod or my external FireWire drive so I can just stay sitting and easily plug and unplug those... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FUBAR n.: The Failed UniBus Address Register in a VAX. A good example of how jargon can occasionally be snuck past the suits; see foobar, and foo for a fuller etymology. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
