Re: Lombard won't boot

2006-01-03 Thread James Sanderson
Thanks, Clark.  I'm not sure where I read--or got--the info about  
open firmware.  At the time I was having problems with a WS II.  I  
was never able to open firmware with 9, but could with X.  Maybe me  
fingers waren't workin' rright!  Thanks, again for the info.


J Sanderson
On 2 Jan 2006, at 21:49, Clark Martin wrote:


At 9:02 PM -0600 1/2/06, James Sanderson wrote:

I may be wrong, but Open Firmware is something you can do in X not 9.
To paraphrase the adage, many many problems begin with memory.   
Try swapping out what's in with known working memory or take out  
one of the sticks, to see if it boots. You would need to play  
around with this, but it could be the heart of the problem.


Open Firmware is what controls the boot up of the computer.  It is  
there regardless of what OS you are booting into be it X, 9, Linux,  
etc.

--
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Re: Lombard won't boot

2006-01-03 Thread James Sanderson
ah ha!  Here's the catch!  and the reason for my not being able to  
boot to Open Firmware on the WS II.  And why Kristina can't do it  
either.


Now I know the rest of the story!
Again, ta!

J Sanderson
On 2 Jan 2006, at 22:48, John McGibney wrote:

Isn't the Lombard too old a design for Open Firmware? According to  
Mactracker Hardware Test isn't supported. The Pismo is the first  
Powerbook that is.


John

According to Apple:
Beginning with Power Macintosh computers with PCI slots, Power  
Macintosh computers rely on a firmware operating system called  
Open Firmware for controlling hardware. Open Firmware is a cross- 
platform firmware standard for controlling hardware and is used by  
all PCI-based Mac OS computers.




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Re: Lombard won't boot

2006-01-03 Thread James Sanderson
If this is so, and Clark says he could do this on a WS, I wonder what  
I was doing wrong.
Still, the suggestion in the past has been to start with the memory.   
If it's the L2 cache (which is a memory register--if that's the right  
term), you'll have to swap with a compatible processor card.

Well, I'll just be quiet now and learn from you good folks!

J Sanderson
On 2 Jan 2006, at 23:15, Caleb Cupples wrote:

The Lombard does have OF, because I've used it before. It's a  
NewWorld machine, similar to the Pismo.


HTH,
Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 23:08 America/Chicago, Clark Martin wrote:


At 11:48 PM -0500 1/2/06, John McGibney wrote:
Isn't the Lombard too old a design for Open Firmware? According  
to Mactracker Hardware Test isn't supported. The Pismo is the  
first Powerbook that is.


John



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Re: Lombard won't boot

2006-01-03 Thread Caleb Cupples
If it's the L2, it shouldn't be doing that. To me, it sounds like a 
failing hard drive or a corrupted partition, but that's my just my 
Windoze experience talking. Personally, I'd use the chance to go ahead 
and upgrade to OS X, but that's just what I'd do. It all depends on how 
much RAM you have, though.


James, I've learned a lot from you, as well, so I think it's mutual.

Hope this can be of some use,
Caleb

P.S. Note how there are a lot of Lombard questions popping up over the 
past couple of days, between my wireless pain and her OS 9 troubles? We 
may have to setup a Lombard list...

CSC

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On Tuesday, Jan 3, 2006, at 05:18 America/Chicago, James Sanderson 
wrote:


If this is so, and Clark says he could do this on a WS, I wonder what 
I was doing wrong.
Still, the suggestion in the past has been to start with the memory.  
If it's the L2 cache (which is a memory register--if that's the right 
term), you'll have to swap with a compatible processor card.

Well, I'll just be quiet now and learn from you good folks!

J Sanderson
On 2 Jan 2006, at 23:15, Caleb Cupples wrote:

The Lombard does have OF, because I've used it before. It's a 
NewWorld machine, similar to the Pismo.


HTH,
Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 23:08 America/Chicago, Clark Martin wrote:


At 11:48 PM -0500 1/2/06, John McGibney wrote:
Isn't the Lombard too old a design for Open Firmware? According to 
Mactracker Hardware Test isn't supported. The Pismo is the first 
Powerbook that is.


John




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Re: Lombard won't boot

2006-01-03 Thread Kristina
on 1/3/06 5:11 AM, James Sanderson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ah ha!  Here's the catch!  and the reason for my not being able to
 boot to Open Firmware on the WS II.  And why Kristina can't do it
 either.
 
 Now I know the rest of the story!

 According to Apple:
 Beginning with Power Macintosh computers with PCI slots, Power
 Macintosh computers rely on a firmware operating system called
 Open Firmware for controlling hardware. Open Firmware is a cross-
 platform firmware standard for controlling hardware and is used by
 all PCI-based Mac OS computers.
 

;s'cuse me? Did I miss something?  My Lombard can't do open firmware? I
remember when I first got this machine, some list friend directed me to open
to that grey screen and type reset all and it worked.

I was able to reset whatever it needed and it  read the install disk so I
could reformat the HD. I had bought the PB off ebay...many dollars ago.
Long story/short story... I replaced the HD, the processor added max RAM and
a new CDR drive...

So I am not sure I am using the right  cmd+opt+O+F sequence for the Lombard.

PCI slot? Isn't that where my Orinoco Gold card goes? and my PCIMA card?

Kristina
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G3 Wallstreet CDROM drive tray won't open all the way

2006-01-03 Thread Edward Felberbaum
I recently became the proud owner of an Apple G3 Wallstreet. The CDROM
drive, M2451, has a problem where when the drive is opened, the tray only
slides out *half way*. The tray only extends to the point where about half
of the spindle (the center part that grabs onto the CD hole) is visible.

Out of desperation I carefully removed the top metal cover of the CD drive
and looked around inside but as of yet I do not see what is preventing the
tray from opening fully.

Has anyone had this problem and solved it?

Aside from this problem, the drive works well because I was able to install
Mac OS 8.6. You may ask how did I manage to do this when the drive only
opens half way? Apparently when I first got the machine, the CD tray DID
extend far enough to let me insert a CD - but I don't remember seeing the
tray opening all the way, but it must have because it is almost impossible
to insert a CD with the tray half open, without scratching the CD.

I hope I can fix this problem and not have to buy a new CD drive.

Thanks.

Eddie




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Re: Lombard Wireless Woes

2006-01-03 Thread Art Richard

Caleb,

   When you encounter a web page that has problems in Safari it is 
because the page creater did not follow the standards (Windows and 
Explorer do not follow the standards, Safari does).  There is a 
solution:


In Safari, you can use the Debug menu to display web pages as if you 
were using Explorer.  If you do not see the Debug menu item on your 
menu bar do the following:


Go to Terminal and type in this line:

defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1

Then Debug will appear on your Safari menu line.  Click on Debug and 
you will see a menu item Open Page With.  Moving the curser to that 
entry will display Explorer.  Click on that and you should be able to 
see the page as if you were using Explorer.



   If you want to remove the Debug menu item, go to terminal and type:
defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 0

Art Richard  (St. Petersburg, FL)


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Re: Memory Issues, Sighs and the anguish of helplessness...

2006-01-03 Thread illovox
Nevertheless, the problem sounds like a memory issue, and Wegener is not an
irreproachable concern.  Don't sigh, LEARN.  It's a 5 minute operation and
instructions are posted on the web.
 
 The memory is new...Wegener installed max  memory when we replace the
 processor...in September or  October...
 
 I don't know how to mess with the memory
 
 SIGH
 
 Kristina


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Re: G3 Wallstreet CDROM drive tray won't open all the way

2006-01-03 Thread John McGibney
I had a similar problem with my PB1400, it was the ribbon cable on  
the bottom. There was a kink in it. I had to tape it out of the way.


John

On Jan 3, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Edward Felberbaum wrote:


I recently became the proud owner of an Apple G3 Wallstreet. The CDROM
drive, M2451, has a problem where when the drive is opened, the  
tray only
slides out *half way*. The tray only extends to the point where  
about half
of the spindle (the center part that grabs onto the CD hole) is  
visible.


Out of desperation I carefully removed the top metal cover of the  
CD drive
and looked around inside but as of yet I do not see what is  
preventing the

tray from opening fully.

Has anyone had this problem and solved it?

Aside from this problem, the drive works well because I was able to  
install
Mac OS 8.6. You may ask how did I manage to do this when the drive  
only
opens half way? Apparently when I first got the machine, the CD  
tray DID
extend far enough to let me insert a CD - but I don't remember  
seeing the
tray opening all the way, but it must have because it is almost  
impossible

to insert a CD with the tray half open, without scratching the CD.

I hope I can fix this problem and not have to buy a new CD drive.

Thanks.

Eddie




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HD not mounting on Boot?

2006-01-03 Thread Frank P. Eigler
AlBk 1.5GHz 512MB OS X.3.9

This comp won't finish booting as of last night. Verbose mode shows:

CSRHIDTransitionDriver::start after command - e2ed
//5 more iterations//
disk0s3: I/O error.
//something about not being journaled or not being able to read
journaled//
disk0s3: I/O error.
//9 more iterations//
//comp hangs//

Upon resetting Open Firmware, the above is repeated *except* that after
the initial I/O error I get:

Load of /sbin/mach_init, errno 5, trying /etc/mach_init
Load of /etc/,ach_init failed, errno 2

Disk Repair from CD - HD couldn't unmount

Using FW Target mode - (now stuck) CD and HD initially appear.
I managed to see part of a directory before the spinning ball appeared.

Prior to all of this, life was good. The only recently installed app was
Firefox late New Year's Day. No suspicious activity until last night when
I noticed the brightness keys for the display were not working. Then I
noticed the volume keys not working. The problems cited above appeared on
reboot.

Thoughts?
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Re: HD not mounting on Boot?

2006-01-03 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jan 3, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Frank P. Eigler wrote:



Using FW Target mode - (now stuck) CD and HD initially appear.
I managed to see part of a directory before the spinning ball  
appeared.


Prior to all of this, life was good. The only recently installed  
app was
Firefox late New Year's Day. No suspicious activity until last  
night when

I noticed the brightness keys for the display were not working. Then I
noticed the volume keys not working. The problems cited above  
appeared on

reboot.

Thoughts?


Get Diskwarrior right now. That really sounds like a munged directory  
structure.


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How to open .ASPX files with Safari

2006-01-03 Thread Clem Bacani

Hello Guys,

I am using Safari as my browser but it could not open .aspx files  
except when you have to go to Explorer and save it from there and  
open it with preview.  Safari will attempt to open it in other window  
but it remains blank until eternity.  Is there a plug in that I have  
to install?  How to?  I just hate moving from safari to explorer just  
to accomplish this one simple task.  Aside from the fact that I like  
the safari better than the explorer.


Thanks for your help.

Clem 


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Re: Memory Issues, Sighs and the anguish of helplessness...

2006-01-03 Thread Kristina
I can and do learn...tho our techie abilities on our iPod were
expensive...requiring a trip to the techrestore folks.

I can give it go if the instruction are clear and warnings emphasized.

I did replace my HD in this Lombard myself...preen

Question:  What did you mean by
 Wegener is not an
 irreproachable concern.

and you and I ARE talking about a memory issue in the area of L2cache?

because I did try to reset the PRAM...and it would only chime once
and went on to boot to startup screens...then I got the same

Built in memory test has detected a problem.
Please contact a service technician for advice.

SO is it an L2 cache issue?

Kristina





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 Nevertheless, the problem sounds like a memory issue, and Wegener is not an
 irreproachable concern.  Don't sigh, LEARN.  It's a 5 minute operation and
 instructions are posted on the web.
 
 The memory is new...Wegener installed max  memory when we replace the
 processor...in September or  October...
 
 I don't know how to mess with the memory
 
 SIGH
 
 Kristina
 


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Re: Advice Needed - Wallstreet upgrade

2006-01-03 Thread Frank Dutra
Thanks to everyone who answered usb problem turned out to be a 
bad port on the OWC elite.




At 3:36 PM -0500 1/3/06, Frank Dutra wrote:
Can I use Carbon Copy Cloner to duplicate my G4 desktop (dual 450 
gigabit ethernet) without any problems (missing drivers/control 
panels)?


I don't know.  It might work if you pre install XpostFacto (assuming 
you are talking about 10.3 here).



Anyone else on this one for a series II Wallstreet? It didn't need 
XpostFacto to install OS 10.2.8, being officially supported by Apple. 
I'm hoping to get OS 10.3 from Apple with the iLife suite on DVD 
($54) but won't be able to use the DVD on the Wallstreet unless I can 
clone it from the G4... (lots more $ for the CD with ilife)


Thanks again
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Re: Lombard won't boot

2006-01-03 Thread themacuser
Yeah, the Lombard does have OF. I've used OpenFirmware on a 3400  
before as well.

On 03/01/2006, at 3:45 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote:

The Lombard does have OF, because I've used it before. It's a  
NewWorld machine, similar to the Pismo.


HTH,
Caleb
On Monday, Jan 2, 2006, at 23:08 America/Chicago, Clark Martin wrote:


At 11:48 PM -0500 1/2/06, John McGibney wrote:
Isn't the Lombard too old a design for Open Firmware? According  
to Mactracker Hardware Test isn't supported. The Pismo is the  
first Powerbook that is.


John

According to Apple:
Beginning with Power Macintosh computers with PCI slots, Power  
Macintosh computers rely on a firmware operating system called  
Open Firmware for controlling hardware. Open Firmware is a  
cross-platform firmware standard for controlling hardware and is  
used by all PCI-based Mac OS computers.


PowerBook 3400 and on are PCI based.  I haven't tried it on a 3400  
or G3 but I haved used OF on a WallStreet.  I don't recall if I've  
tried on a Lombard.


You may be confusing OF with NewWorld.  The Wallstreet is Old  
World, I think the Pismo IS New World but I don't know off hand  
about the Lombard.




On Jan 2, 2006, at 11:36 PM, Kristina wrote:




It's Opt+Cmd+O+F, or, at least that's what the Apple site says.


I thot you hold them down all together...

Kristina





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Re: Memory Issues, Sighs and the anguish of helplessness...

2006-01-03 Thread William Ove

On Jan 3, 2006, at 5:26 PM, G-Books wrote:

I did replace my HD in this Lombard myself...preen

Question:  What did you mean by

Wegener is not an
irreproachable concern.


[snip]


Built in memory test has detected a problem.
Please contact a service technician for advice.

SO is it an L2 cache issue?


L2 Cache problems on the Lomard are fairly common. It is not a user  
fixable problem except that you can replace the entire processor  
card. One of the upgrade manufactures will fix the problem for a bit  
over a $100.


A bad L2 cache will impact performance but will not cause any  
stability problems. Our Lombard which has a bad L2 cache is used as  
the family message center and lives on the kitchen counter. It runs  
10.3 and has an uptime of probably around 6 months. It is without a  
doubt the most heavily used computer in the house.




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Re: Memory Issues, Sighs and the anguish of helplessness...

2006-01-03 Thread Andrew in Ann Arbor

From: Kristina mhamster earthlink.net
I can and do learn...tho our techie abilities on our iPod were
expensive...requiring a trip to the techrestore folks.
I can give it go if the instruction are clear and warnings emphasized.

I did replace my HD in this Lombard myself...preen


If you can replace the hard drive you can replace the memory.
Go slow and beware static electricity.
I don't wear my polertec vest over my cotton shirt and I always touch 
the aluminum frame around the hard drive before touching anything else.
The RAM sticks go into the socket at a 45 degree angle, make sure they 
are all the way in then push them down flat against the board.

Try the memory in different combinations, each stick in each slot.
Try just one stick at a time, if it starts with one but not the other 
you've got a good idea where the problem is.
If you can get it started Apple System Profiler will tell you what 
memory it sees and if the external L2 cache is present.


Good luck

Andrew in Ann Arbor
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sticky drawer on Pismo DVD drive

2006-01-03 Thread Andrew in Ann Arbor
I've been trying to sort out a Lombard for my father in law and I have 
a 6x DVD drive that seems to work OK once you get the drive closed.
The drawer binds as I try and close it, sometimes I have to open it and 
clse it several times before I can get it to close all the way.

Once it's closed  it works fine.
There seems to be a lot of friction in the slides so either something's 
jumped the track or something needs lubrication.
If I can't find anything obvoiusly out of line I'm thinking of a little 
silicon lube on the slides.


Any suggestions?

Thanks

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