Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy

2005-05-08 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes, but knowing the fundamentals stops you from going mental
and at least attempt to think at the right end of the problem,
knowing very little makes you stumble in the dark.
There's an old, old alt.sysadmin.recovery* maxim:
down, not across...err...well there IS that, but there's also:
Three things that have lead more sysadmins to heavy drink than anything 
else are the Grasshopper, the Bat, and the Crab

...referring to the engravings on the covers of O'Reilly's manuals for DNS, 
Sendmail, and TCP/IP networking, respectively...

TCP issues are one of the few things I've ever seen my boss swear aloud 
about.

*a.s.r is a Usenet venting place for cynical, tired and overworked systems 
administrators. Simon Travaglia's BOFH series got it's start on a.s.r...
And I thought this list was for informative postings...
;o)
Larry
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ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy

2005-05-04 Thread Larry le Mac
I have a problem with my wife's new TiBook 400MHz
and I'm going crazy...
We have ADSL and everything works fine with my G4
QuickSilver, but her TiBook (X.3.9) will not receive a
valid IP address, 169.smoething...
I have run permissions repair and all, no difference.
The subnet mask is 255.255.0.0 which is something I
recognise from previous instances with this problems
with other Macs.
I literally take the Ethernet cable from the QuickSilver,
plug it in the back of the TiBook, nothing, and then putting
it back into the QS, everything works straight away.
I have restarted, fiddled, restarted, switched off the IPv6
which I read somewhere could help, but nothing works.
Any ideas ???
Also, why can one not set the subnet mask manually while
keeping DHCP with automatic IP address assignment ???
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Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy

2005-05-04 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 04/05/05 11:43, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a problem with my wife's new TiBook 400MHz
 and I'm going crazy...
 
 We have ADSL and everything works fine with my G4
 QuickSilver, but her TiBook (X.3.9) will not receive a
 valid IP address, 169.smoething...
 
 I have run permissions repair and all, no difference.
 
 The subnet mask is 255.255.0.0 which is something I
 recognise from previous instances with this problems
 with other Macs.
 
 I literally take the Ethernet cable from the QuickSilver,
 plug it in the back of the TiBook, nothing, and then putting
 it back into the QS, everything works straight away.
 
 I have restarted, fiddled, restarted, switched off the IPv6
 which I read somewhere could help, but nothing works.
 
 Any ideas ???
 
 Also, why can one not set the subnet mask manually while
 keeping DHCP with automatic IP address assignment ???

Do you have a router connected to your ADSL modem? If not, then it probably
explains why. Somehow, your provided has registered the MAC address of your
QuickSilver and will hand out an IP address only to that machine.

If you do have a router, then it is probably misconfigured.

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Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy

2005-05-04 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cor, a super quick answer, thanks!
Do you have a router connected to your ADSL modem?
If not, then it probably explains why. Somehow, your provided
has registered the MAC address of your QuickSilver and will hand
out an IP address only to that machine.
You're spot on, direct to ADSL modem.
Is there a solution ?
---
If you do have a router, then it is probably misconfigured.
The reason why I haven't been using my D-Link DI-604 Router
is because I have serious problems keeping it open. It keeps
stalling, or dropping the line or something.
D-Link suggested lowering the MTU to 1400, but that sounds a
bit of a cheap trick, but I'm not an IP expert...
?!?

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Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy

2005-05-04 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 04/05/05 11:50, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Cor, a super quick answer, thanks!
 
 Do you have a router connected to your ADSL modem?
 If not, then it probably explains why. Somehow, your provided
 has registered the MAC address of your QuickSilver and will hand
 out an IP address only to that machine.
 
 You're spot on, direct to ADSL modem.
 
 Is there a solution ?
 ---
 If you do have a router, then it is probably misconfigured.
 
 The reason why I haven't been using my D-Link DI-604 Router
 is because I have serious problems keeping it open. It keeps
 stalling, or dropping the line or something.
 
 D-Link suggested lowering the MTU to 1400, but that sounds a
 bit of a cheap trick, but I'm not an IP expert...

That's odd because I'm using the exact same router and never had the
problems you mention.

Have you checked the version of the firmware in it? Maybe there is a newer
version?

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Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy

2005-05-04 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 4, 2005, at 8:50 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cor, a super quick answer, thanks!
Do you have a router connected to your ADSL modem?
If not, then it probably explains why. Somehow, your provided
has registered the MAC address of your QuickSilver and will hand
out an IP address only to that machine.
You're spot on, direct to ADSL modem.
Is there a solution ?
Resetting the modem will let it pick up the new MAC address, but that 
gets old fast.

---
If you do have a router, then it is probably misconfigured.
The reason why I haven't been using my D-Link DI-604 Router
is because I have serious problems keeping it open. It keeps
stalling, or dropping the line or something.
D-Link suggested lowering the MTU to 1400, but that sounds a
bit of a cheap trick, but I'm not an IP expert...
Try it and see...it can't hurt, and hopefully they know their 
equipment...

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Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy

2005-05-04 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One thought, and I forget the beginnings of this thread...have you swapped 
out the cables, and tried different ports on the router? I've had flaky 
ethernet cables that have really tried my patience by making it look like 
everything else is at fault...
Nah, I think cables and all are good, and the router has been
behaving so far which is good news.
The DI-604 has som features that seem useful if I can just get
my head round IP stuff, never studied it or even gave it 2 seconds...
Thanks Bruce and laurent for your help.
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Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy

2005-05-04 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 4, 2005, at 10:20 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TCP/IP voodoo makes SCSI voodoo look like childs play.
Yes, but knowing the fundamentals stops you from going mental
and at least attempt to think at the right end of the problem,
knowing very little makes you stumble in the dark.
There's an old, old alt.sysadmin.recovery* maxim:
down, not across...err...well there IS that, but there's also:
Three things that have lead more sysadmins to heavy drink than 
anything else are the Grasshopper, the Bat, and the Crab

...referring to the engravings on the covers of O'Reilly's manuals for 
DNS, Sendmail, and TCP/IP networking, respectively...

TCP issues are one of the few things I've ever seen my boss swear aloud 
about.

*a.s.r is a Usenet venting place for cynical, tired and overworked 
systems administrators. Simon Travaglia's BOFH series got it's start on 
a.s.r...

ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/faqs/sysadmin-recovery
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