Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy
From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but knowing the fundamentals stops you from going mental and at least attempt to think at the right end of the problem, knowing very little makes you stumble in the dark. There's an old, old alt.sysadmin.recovery* maxim: down, not across...err...well there IS that, but there's also: Three things that have lead more sysadmins to heavy drink than anything else are the Grasshopper, the Bat, and the Crab ...referring to the engravings on the covers of O'Reilly's manuals for DNS, Sendmail, and TCP/IP networking, respectively... TCP issues are one of the few things I've ever seen my boss swear aloud about. *a.s.r is a Usenet venting place for cynical, tired and overworked systems administrators. Simon Travaglia's BOFH series got it's start on a.s.r... And I thought this list was for informative postings... ;o) Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy
I have a problem with my wife's new TiBook 400MHz and I'm going crazy... We have ADSL and everything works fine with my G4 QuickSilver, but her TiBook (X.3.9) will not receive a valid IP address, 169.smoething... I have run permissions repair and all, no difference. The subnet mask is 255.255.0.0 which is something I recognise from previous instances with this problems with other Macs. I literally take the Ethernet cable from the QuickSilver, plug it in the back of the TiBook, nothing, and then putting it back into the QS, everything works straight away. I have restarted, fiddled, restarted, switched off the IPv6 which I read somewhere could help, but nothing works. Any ideas ??? Also, why can one not set the subnet mask manually while keeping DHCP with automatic IP address assignment ??? Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy
On 04/05/05 11:43, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a problem with my wife's new TiBook 400MHz and I'm going crazy... We have ADSL and everything works fine with my G4 QuickSilver, but her TiBook (X.3.9) will not receive a valid IP address, 169.smoething... I have run permissions repair and all, no difference. The subnet mask is 255.255.0.0 which is something I recognise from previous instances with this problems with other Macs. I literally take the Ethernet cable from the QuickSilver, plug it in the back of the TiBook, nothing, and then putting it back into the QS, everything works straight away. I have restarted, fiddled, restarted, switched off the IPv6 which I read somewhere could help, but nothing works. Any ideas ??? Also, why can one not set the subnet mask manually while keeping DHCP with automatic IP address assignment ??? Do you have a router connected to your ADSL modem? If not, then it probably explains why. Somehow, your provided has registered the MAC address of your QuickSilver and will hand out an IP address only to that machine. If you do have a router, then it is probably misconfigured. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cor, a super quick answer, thanks! Do you have a router connected to your ADSL modem? If not, then it probably explains why. Somehow, your provided has registered the MAC address of your QuickSilver and will hand out an IP address only to that machine. You're spot on, direct to ADSL modem. Is there a solution ? --- If you do have a router, then it is probably misconfigured. The reason why I haven't been using my D-Link DI-604 Router is because I have serious problems keeping it open. It keeps stalling, or dropping the line or something. D-Link suggested lowering the MTU to 1400, but that sounds a bit of a cheap trick, but I'm not an IP expert... ?!? Larry _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy
On 04/05/05 11:50, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cor, a super quick answer, thanks! Do you have a router connected to your ADSL modem? If not, then it probably explains why. Somehow, your provided has registered the MAC address of your QuickSilver and will hand out an IP address only to that machine. You're spot on, direct to ADSL modem. Is there a solution ? --- If you do have a router, then it is probably misconfigured. The reason why I haven't been using my D-Link DI-604 Router is because I have serious problems keeping it open. It keeps stalling, or dropping the line or something. D-Link suggested lowering the MTU to 1400, but that sounds a bit of a cheap trick, but I'm not an IP expert... That's odd because I'm using the exact same router and never had the problems you mention. Have you checked the version of the firmware in it? Maybe there is a newer version? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy
On May 4, 2005, at 8:50 AM, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cor, a super quick answer, thanks! Do you have a router connected to your ADSL modem? If not, then it probably explains why. Somehow, your provided has registered the MAC address of your QuickSilver and will hand out an IP address only to that machine. You're spot on, direct to ADSL modem. Is there a solution ? Resetting the modem will let it pick up the new MAC address, but that gets old fast. --- If you do have a router, then it is probably misconfigured. The reason why I haven't been using my D-Link DI-604 Router is because I have serious problems keeping it open. It keeps stalling, or dropping the line or something. D-Link suggested lowering the MTU to 1400, but that sounds a bit of a cheap trick, but I'm not an IP expert... Try it and see...it can't hurt, and hopefully they know their equipment... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha rmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy
From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] One thought, and I forget the beginnings of this thread...have you swapped out the cables, and tried different ports on the router? I've had flaky ethernet cables that have really tried my patience by making it look like everything else is at fault... Nah, I think cables and all are good, and the router has been behaving so far which is good news. The DI-604 has som features that seem useful if I can just get my head round IP stuff, never studied it or even gave it 2 seconds... Thanks Bruce and laurent for your help. Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ADSL - 255.255.0.0 - going crazy
On May 4, 2005, at 10:20 AM, Larry le Mac wrote: From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] TCP/IP voodoo makes SCSI voodoo look like childs play. Yes, but knowing the fundamentals stops you from going mental and at least attempt to think at the right end of the problem, knowing very little makes you stumble in the dark. There's an old, old alt.sysadmin.recovery* maxim: down, not across...err...well there IS that, but there's also: Three things that have lead more sysadmins to heavy drink than anything else are the Grasshopper, the Bat, and the Crab ...referring to the engravings on the covers of O'Reilly's manuals for DNS, Sendmail, and TCP/IP networking, respectively... TCP issues are one of the few things I've ever seen my boss swear aloud about. *a.s.r is a Usenet venting place for cynical, tired and overworked systems administrators. Simon Travaglia's BOFH series got it's start on a.s.r... ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/faqs/sysadmin-recovery -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Phar macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---