Ethernet WiFi adapters - from AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-04 Thread Frank Cornew
What's the experience been with standalone ethernet to WiFi adapters? 
(beyond that they need external power) Can anyone recommend specific 
units? b or g, OSX or 9

Looks like I need to go that route, and would like to get something 
that works without too much pain... First shot at a Linksys USB 
adapter appears to have been a deadend as I have been stumped in 
attempting to get a mac to network out of the USB port...

F.
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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-04 Thread Mikael Byström
Larry le Mac said:

Anyone have any experience of the difference between
AirPort in the TiBook vs. PCMCIA card with an external
antenna ?

Never mind about makes/models as I live in Sweden and
we probably don't have all the different makes you have,
and I'd probably get a decent make in any case.

I sold my Apple Original Airport Card for $100 (to the US) and got a
second hand Orinoco Gold *with* IOXperts driver for $50 (in Sweden) to
use in my PB G4 / 400. The Orinoco picks up networks that just weren't
there before. Now, if I only could find an antenna to improve this even
further.
Yes, I don't regret this move.


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Re: Ethernet WiFi adapters - from AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-04 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 4, 2005, at 3:55 AM, Frank Cornew wrote:
What's the experience been with standalone ethernet to WiFi adapters? 
(beyond that they need external power) Can anyone recommend specific 
units? b or g, OSX or 9
For the USB ones you need drivers, D-link sells a usb adapter with an 
OS X driver.

for the external boxes, we've used both D-Link and Netgear models; 
they're largely plug-n-play with anything that's got an ethernet port.

One of them's connected to a laserjet in a difficult-to-wire corner.
If you want to access their advanced features, like WEP keys, etc, you 
need to use something capable of running a web browser, but they're 
great.

Any OS will work, since they simply appear to be a ethernet connection.
I used my 540C running 8.1 to configure the D-link ones...
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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-04 Thread Larry le Mac
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I sold my Apple Original Airport Card for $100 (to the US)
You should be seriously pleased!!
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AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Larry le Mac
As people have mentioned in our AirPort discussions, as well
as the seller of my new TiBook (my second to date), the
reception/transmission is not good, especially when one
actually uses the computer (doh!) and covers the case with
one's hands.
What is the best option for wireless ?
At least this computer has a PCMCIA slot which means
802.11g is feasable, with an external antenna!!
Or maybe a USB adapter, memory stick style thing...  ?
Any thoughts ???

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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Andrew
I would try and get your hands on one of the old
Lucent Orinoco cards.  I have one (sold under the
Agere name) in my Kanga and the reception is even
better than my 12 AlBook's.  I believe you can get
the same card on eBay under many names, including Dell
TrueMobile or Proxim, just be careful on the Proxim
cards because their new one won't work at all on a
Mac.

You will need a 3rd party driver for OSX or OS9, but
this is easy to find, and if you go with the Orinoco
card I can email it to you.

Andrew


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 As people have mentioned in our AirPort discussions,
 as well
 as the seller of my new TiBook (my second to
 date), the
 reception/transmission is not good, especially when
 one
 actually uses the computer (doh!) and covers the
 case with
 one's hands.
 
 What is the best option for wireless ?
 
 At least this computer has a PCMCIA slot which means
 802.11g is feasable, with an external antenna!!
 
 Or maybe a USB adapter, memory stick style thing... 
 ?
 
 Any thoughts ???
 
 
 
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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Andrew, a Mac Freak
 Or maybe a USB adapter, memory stick style thing...  ?

If you're looking for cheap, and I mean REALLY cheap, go here and check
this out: http://astro.temple.edu/~moshe/intersil/  I bought a 10 dollar
Syntax USB-400 usb tab, just to try this out, and it works surprisingly
well.  Its cheap, and the drivers that come with it are windows, but no
worries.  D-Link has drivers that you can modify to recognize the Syntax
instead, and it works just like D-Link's, only 1/3 the price.  Its only
802.11b, but the range is pretty good and the price is awesome. 
However, if you aren't using OS X then this doesn't help much...

Andrew

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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Dan K
Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As people have mentioned in our AirPort discussions, as well
as the seller of my new TiBook (my second to date), the
reception/transmission is not good, especially when one
actually uses the computer (doh!) and covers the case with
one's hands.

What is the best option for wireless ?

Best _first_ thing is try your new TiBook's AirPort performance and 
_then_ decide if it's inadequate. I've got one DVI 667 which had rather 
poor AP reception, so I did this mod: 
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/ti_antennae.html A second DVI 667 
however seems to get much stronger signal. Internally, I can't see any 
differences between the two, go figure..

You also asked about the choice between 12 AlBook and TiBook. Hah! Since 
you have 'em both, just try 'em! I've got both TiBooks and 12 iBooks, 
and while I like the handy-ness of the smaller formfactor, the 1024x 
screen is just too small for my daily usage needs.

I trust you won't be shy about announcing the result of _your_ comparo. 
:-)

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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Richard Clark
You just ruined my weekend LOL don't think i could live with such a 
monster, but if it works and your happy that is good.

Richard
On 3 Feb 2005, at 7:51 PM, Dan K wrote:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/ti_antennae.html A second DVI 
667
however seems to get much stronger signal. Internally, I can't see any
differences between the two, go figure..
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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Andrew
I think I would prefer a PC card to all that extra
plumbing.

Andrew


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http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/ti_antennae.html
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  667
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TiBook IrDA ??? (was AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Dan K [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've got one DVI 667
Then you might be able to answer this, why does the
manual say that I have an IrDA port while there's nothing
on the book, while my 550MHz TiBook did...
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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Richard Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You just ruined my weekend LOL don't think i could live with such a 
monster, but if it works and your happy that is good.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/ti_antennae.html
Obviously practicality over... er, pride ?!...
That is one sorry TiBook, but if it does the job...
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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think I would prefer a PC card to all that extra
plumbing.
You took the words right out of my mouth...
Anyone have any experience of the difference between
AirPort in the TiBook vs. PCMCIA card with an external
antenna ?
Never mind about makes/models as I live in Sweden and
we probably don't have all the different makes you have,
and I'd probably get a decent make in any case.
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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Bob
The National Enquirer reports at 7:38 AM -0800 2/3/05, Andrew wrote:

I would try and get your hands on one of the old
Lucent Orinoco cards.  I have one (sold under the
Agere name) in my Kanga and the reception is even
better than my 12 AlBook's.  I believe you can get
the same card on eBay under many names, including Dell
TrueMobile or Proxim, just be careful on the Proxim
cards because their new one won't work at all on a
Mac.

You will need a 3rd party driver for OSX or OS9, but
this is easy to find, and if you go with the Orinoco
card I can email it to you.

Actually, if it is one of the ubiquitous Silver or Gold cards, you 
won't need anything in OS 9 other than the Apple Airport drivers. You 
can also use the Orinoco drivers (v7.2) which is free for the 
download.


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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Andrew F.
I use the Orinoco driver under Mac OS 8.6.  I tried to install AirPort, but
the installer said that my machine (Kanga) was not supported.  I did plug
the card into My wife's Lombard and it just works using OS 9's AirPort
software, but under OS X the Orinoco driver is required.

Andrew


On 2/3/05 3:38 PM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The National Enquirer reports at 7:38 AM -0800 2/3/05, Andrew wrote:
 
 I would try and get your hands on one of the old
 Lucent Orinoco cards.  I have one (sold under the
 Agere name) in my Kanga and the reception is even
 better than my 12 AlBook's.  I believe you can get
 the same card on eBay under many names, including Dell
 TrueMobile or Proxim, just be careful on the Proxim
 cards because their new one won't work at all on a
 Mac.
 
 You will need a 3rd party driver for OSX or OS9, but
 this is easy to find, and if you go with the Orinoco
 card I can email it to you.
 
 Actually, if it is one of the ubiquitous Silver or Gold cards, you
 won't need anything in OS 9 other than the Apple Airport drivers. You
 can also use the Orinoco drivers (v7.2) which is free for the
 download.
 
 
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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Bob
The National Enquirer reports at 3:48 PM -0800 2/3/05, Andrew F. wrote:

I use the Orinoco driver under Mac OS 8.6.  I tried to install AirPort, but
the installer said that my machine (Kanga) was not supported.

You can do it manually. I did. I use the Classic Gold card in OS 8.6 
all the time with just the Airport 2.0.4 drivers.

I did plug the card into My wife's Lombard and it just works using 
OS 9's AirPort software,

That was my point. It's tough enough on new WiFi users without making 
them look for, and install, drivers that they don't have to use. :-)

but under OS X the Orinoco driver is required.

I assume you mean 3rd-party drivers. If so, I have no argument there.


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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Andrew F.
In 8.6 was actually easier to just install the Orinoco driver than to try
and get AirPort installed, for me at least.

Works like a champ either way, with far better reception than any other wifi
card, built in or PCMCIA that I've ever used, including two 12 PowerBook
G4s, a Pismo with original AirPort card, a Lombard with an 802.11g Belkin
card and a PC using a 3Com PC card.

At the opposite side of the house from my AE base station where the 12 G4
is alternating between one and two bars, the Orinoco utility shows a very
strong signal.  Across the street where the 12 G4 is constantly acquiring
and dropping the signal, the Lucent card in the Kanga still shows about half
strength and never cuts out.

To make things better, supposedly you can attach an external antenna to the
little plug on the antenna portion of the card (the plastic part that sticks
out of the machine).  If that's so, I would imagine reception could be
significantly boosted over the already excellent range.

Andrew


On 2/3/05 4:01 PM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The National Enquirer reports at 3:48 PM -0800 2/3/05, Andrew F. wrote:
 
 I use the Orinoco driver under Mac OS 8.6.  I tried to install AirPort, but
 the installer said that my machine (Kanga) was not supported.
 
 You can do it manually. I did. I use the Classic Gold card in OS 8.6
 all the time with just the Airport 2.0.4 drivers.
 
 I did plug the card into My wife's Lombard and it just works using
 OS 9's AirPort software,
 
 That was my point. It's tough enough on new WiFi users without making
 them look for, and install, drivers that they don't have to use. :-)
 
 but under OS X the Orinoco driver is required.
 
 I assume you mean 3rd-party drivers. If so, I have no argument there.
 
 
 Bob



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Re: AirPort in TiBook ???

2005-02-03 Thread Bob
The National Enquirer reports at 4:09 PM -0800 2/3/05, Andrew F. wrote:

In 8.6 was actually easier to just install the Orinoco driver than to try
and get AirPort installed, for me at least.

Not if you have to find the drivers, download them and then install 
them. But it sounds like you already them on a CD or such.

Actually, I tried the Orinoco drivers and didn't like them nearly as 
well as I like the Apple drivers. I suppose it's like most other 
things, we all like different things. But IIRC the Apple CSM was far 
more to my liking than Orinoco's.

Works like a champ either way, with far better reception than any other wifi
card, built in or PCMCIA that I've ever used, including two 12 PowerBook
G4s, a Pismo with original AirPort card, a Lombard with an 802.11g Belkin
card and a PC using a 3Com PC card.

The Orinoco is not the most powerful PCMCIA card available, but it 
should be better than most internal cards because of the built-in 
antenna being on the outside of the PB.

To make things better, supposedly you can attach an external antenna to the
little plug on the antenna portion of the card (the plastic part that sticks
out of the machine).  If that's so, I would imagine reception could be
significantly boosted over the already excellent range.

Yes, you can attach an external antenna to the end of the card. An 
external antenna would help considerably.


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