Re: Airport connection dropouts
In a message dated 11/3/02 1:30:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if other people on this list experience flaky Airport connections. I have a TiBook 667/GB Ethernet Rev B Airport Card and a graphite base station all the newest updates installed. Normally I've got all 4 bars no matter where I have got the TiBook in the apartment but hen suddenly - without moving the TiBook the wireless reception drops completely. Again this happens out of the blue and has no correlation to any particular software I am running at the time. The cordless phone and the cell phone that I have do not change in their activity (unplugging them makes no difference). Once the connection is gone it sometimes comes back on it's own (after a couple of hours) as I can tell from the ErageX error log (I am checking email all 5 mins). If I want to regain connection I need to bring the TiBook right next to the Airport station, then in many cases restart the base station (pulling the power plug) and then change the channel via the airport config utility. After that everything will be ok for a undetermined period of time I have experienced months without failure but also recurring connection failure several times a day. I had already exchanged the Airport card but no difference. I still believe it's probably got something to do with the TiBook, since I never had any trouble with my Pismo. You mentioned that you live in an apartment. You also mention that you have a cordless phone. Is it a 2.4GHz phone? And do you have a microwave oven? Or do neighbors in adjoining apartments? 2.4GHz phones, microwave ovens and Airport are all accessing the same bandwidth. So there may be household appliances, either in your own apartment or in adjoining ones (including above and below you) that may be having an effect on your Airport connection. Michelle --- Michelle K. Wachtel, Apple Product Professional, Inspiration to Information 804/794-6435, [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.carbonus.com/23;www.carbonus.com/23/A or A HREF=http://www.4allnaturals.com/23;www.4allnaturals.com/23/A -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport connection dropouts
On 11/5/02 5:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mentioned that you live in an apartment. You also mention that you have a cordless phone. Is it a 2.4GHz phone? And do you have a microwave oven? Or do neighbors in adjoining apartments? 2.4GHz phones, microwave ovens and Airport are all accessing the same bandwidth. So there may be household appliances, either in your own apartment or in adjoining ones (including above and below you) that may be having an effect on your Airport connection. Michelle That might well be, but the activity in the neighboring apartments is hard to control :-). For my own experience I have not noticed any dependence on the activity of my cell or cordless phone (900 MHz) or the microwave and have also not been able to actively reproduce the connection failure. It is probably just a bad karma on the day it happens ;-). All my talk with the Apple techs did not reveal any new clues (I don't blame them since it appears really cryptic to everyone I have talked about). /h -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport connection dropouts
On 11/5/02 7:37 AM, R. Hannes Niedner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I don't blame them since it appears really cryptic to everyone I have talked about). I have talked about this issue./h -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport connection dropouts
I have a pismo 400 with an airport card (don't remember which rev). I use a Netgear wireless router with cable internet. I also have had some weird dropout problems. Looking at the airport connection bar, the connection would drop out and then reappear repeatedly. It doesn't happen much but when it does, the problem doesn't go away until I change the tcp/ip setup and then change it back. I can't see it being the microwave, or I would have a much more constant problem. I don't have a 2.4 cordless phone. I live in a self-contained house. Weird. Kate I wonder if other people on this list experience flaky Airport connections. I have a TiBook 667/GB Ethernet Rev B Airport Card and a graphite base station all the newest updates installed. Normally I've got all 4 bars no matter where I have got the TiBook in the apartment but hen suddenly - without moving the TiBook the wireless reception drops completely. Again this happens out of the blue and has no correlation to any particular software I am running at the time. The cordless phone and the cell phone that I have do not change in their activity (unplugging them makes no difference). Once the connection is gone it sometimes comes back on it's own (after a couple of hours) as I can tell from the ErageX error log (I am checking email all 5 mins). If I want to regain connection I need to bring the TiBook right next to the Airport station, then in many cases restart the base station (pulling the power plug) and then change the channel via the airport config utility. After that everything will be ok for a undetermined period of time I have experienced months without failure but also recurring connection failure several times a day. I had already exchanged the Airport card but no difference. I still believe it's probably got something to do with the TiBook, since I never had any trouble with my Pismo. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport connection dropouts
It was mentioned in the Apple Discussion Boards that selecting Join a specific network in the SystemPreferences-Network-Airport tab worked around a bug in Apple's networking code that caused a lot of people to experience Airport flakiness. The setting is by default Join most recently used available network. I hope this helps; please share if it does(n't). =- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport connection dropouts
On 11/3/02 11:39 PM, wappling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RE; voltage filters and transformers can be OK for controling spikes or rises in voltage,Im thinking perhaps drops in voltage may be the cause of signal loss at the base station antenae? the easiest way to tell if you dont have a meter,is plug-in and incandesant light bulb fixture to that outlet and see if it dims during use.could even be a bad pluggin socket or bad transformer brick.its going to be hard to spot except when its actually screwing up.hope this helps in your search The ABS is not in the room I am working in, and with the stochastic nature of the problem I am probably going to give it yet another shot instead of watching a light bulb until it hits again :-). I guess next time I am just buying an UPS since it is a handy thing to have anyhow and no waste of money even if it doesn't cure the airport trouble. Thanks/h -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Airport connection dropouts
I wonder if other people on this list experience flaky Airport connections. I have a TiBook 667/GB Ethernet Rev B Airport Card and a graphite base station all the newest updates installed. Normally I've got all 4 bars no matter where I have got the TiBook in the apartment but hen suddenly - without moving the TiBook the wireless reception drops completely. Again this happens out of the blue and has no correlation to any particular software I am running at the time. The cordless phone and the cell phone that I have do not change in their activity (unplugging them makes no difference). Once the connection is gone it sometimes comes back on it's own (after a couple of hours) as I can tell from the ErageX error log (I am checking email all 5 mins). If I want to regain connection I need to bring the TiBook right next to the Airport station, then in many cases restart the base station (pulling the power plug) and then change the channel via the airport config utility. After that everything will be ok for a undetermined period of time I have experienced months without failure but also recurring connection failure several times a day. I had already exchanged the Airport card but no difference. I still believe it's probably got something to do with the TiBook, since I never had any trouble with my Pismo. Any ideas? /h -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport connection dropouts
Just a suggestion...check the appletalk setting in the airport config thing...I have had a similar problem...for whatever reason, the ap connection switches from airport to ethernet and then will only hold an intermittent connection... I haven't figured out why it does this, but when it happens...everytime I check the airport under the apple icon on the tool bar, I find that the ap changed to enet from airport... Hope this helps, Regards, Mike K imac graphite SE 400 9.2.2/Jag Pismo 9.2.2 R. Hannes Niedner wrote: I wonder if other people on this list experience flaky Airport connections. I have a TiBook 667/GB Ethernet Rev B Airport Card and a graphite base station all the newest updates installed. Normally I've got all 4 bars no matter where I have got the TiBook in the apartment but hen suddenly - without moving the TiBook the wireless reception drops completely. Again this happens out of the blue and has no correlation to any particular software I am running at the time. The cordless phone and the cell phone that I have do not change in their activity (unplugging them makes no difference). Once the connection is gone it sometimes comes back on it's own (after a couple of hours) as I can tell from the ErageX error log (I am checking email all 5 mins). If I want to regain connection I need to bring the TiBook right next to the Airport station, then in many cases restart the base station (pulling the power plug) and then change the channel via the airport config utility. After that everything will be ok for a undetermined period of time I have experienced months without failure but also recurring connection failure several times a day. I had already exchanged the Airport card but no difference. I still believe it's probably got something to do with the TiBook, since I never had any trouble with my Pismo. Any ideas? /h -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport connection dropouts
On 11/3/02 11:37 AM, K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a suggestion...check the appletalk setting in the airport config thing...I have had a similar problem...for whatever reason, the ap connection switches from airport to ethernet and then will only hold an intermittent connection... I haven't figured out why it does this, but when it happens...everytime I check the airport under the apple icon on the tool bar, I find that the ap changed to enet from airport... Hope this helps, Regards, Mike K imac graphite SE 400 9.2.2/Jag Pismo 9.2.2 Sorry, I forgot to mention that I run OS 10.2.1. In OSX there is an automatic fallback if the Airport is not available it tries to connect via Ethernet and if this is not available it tries to dial up. /h -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport connection dropouts
RE; if possable try to monitor the voltage at your wall plug, the power company may be your culprit,though there are a number of things that can cause you trouble,if so a ups battery back-up is in order.such are the problems in my area, your milage will vary on 11/3/02 1:29 PM, R. Hannes Niedner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if other people on this list experience flaky Airport connections. I have a TiBook 667/GB Ethernet Rev B Airport Card and a graphite base station all the newest updates installed. Normally I've got all 4 bars no matter where I have got the TiBook in the apartment but hen suddenly - without moving the TiBook the wireless reception drops completely. Again this happens out of the blue and has no correlation to any particular software I am running at the time. The cordless phone and the cell phone that I have do not change in their activity (unplugging them makes no difference). Once the connection is gone it sometimes comes back on it's own (after a couple of hours) as I can tell from the ErageX error log (I am checking email all 5 mins). If I want to regain connection I need to bring the TiBook right next to the Airport station, then in many cases restart the base station (pulling the power plug) and then change the channel via the airport config utility. After that everything will be ok for a undetermined period of time I have experienced months without failure but also recurring connection failure several times a day. I had already exchanged the Airport card but no difference. I still believe it's probably got something to do with the TiBook, since I never had any trouble with my Pismo. Any ideas? /h -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport connection dropouts
On 11/3/02 10:44 PM, wappling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RE; if possable try to monitor the voltage at your wall plug, the power company may be your culprit,though there are a number of things that can cause you trouble,if so a ups battery back-up is in order.such are the problems in my area, your milage will vary Thanks for the suggestion. I always thought that the ac adapter would filter power fluctuations out before they could affect the Powerbook. I always loved notebooks because they have their little UPS built in but I don't really know. The only thing I can tell that after I loose connection to the airport, no reboot of the TiBook help. I really have to bring it almost into physical contact with the airport to regain it and as soon as I move away the connection drops again. So I usually reboot the airport base station and change the wireless channel. So maybe the power fluctuations affect the base station? I guess I buy one of those expensive filters and plug the into the socket before the ABS. /h -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Airport connection dropouts
RE; voltage filters and transformers can be OK for controling spikes or rises in voltage,Im thinking perhaps drops in voltage may be the cause of signal loss at the base station antenae? the easiest way to tell if you dont have a meter,is plug-in and incandesant light bulb fixture to that outlet and see if it dims during use.could even be a bad pluggin socket or bad transformer brick.its going to be hard to spot except when its actually screwing up.hope this helps in your search Thanks for the suggestion. I always thought that the ac adapter would filter power fluctuations out before they could affect the Powerbook. I always loved notebooks because they have their little UPS built in but I don't really know. The only thing I can tell that after I loose connection to the airport, no reboot of the TiBook help. I really have to bring it almost into physical contact with the airport to regain it and as soon as I move away the connection drops again. So I usually reboot the airport base station and change the wireless channel. So maybe the power fluctuations affect the base station? I guess I buy one of those expensive filters and plug the into the socket before the ABS. /h -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:G-Books-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:G-Books-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lemlists.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
