Re: Any instructions on disassembling my Titanium screen assembly?

2004-04-10 Thread Paul Nicholson 
Scott,

Did replace the complete screen assembly, or did you open the screen 
housing and replace just the LCD?

Paul

On Apr 9, 2004, at 8:07 AM, Scott Howe wrote:

Mark,

You are in for one hell of a hard time if you plan on replacing that 
screen
yourself. I've done it twice and it's a long laborious job. If you 
plan on
going ahead with it, email me off-list and I'll send you some info.

As far as what Apple does, they sometimes (depending on current LCD 
prices
and your particular TiBook model) just throw your hard drive in a 
whole new
case. Then charge you $1200 for it.

Scott



On 4/9/04 11:02 AM, "Paul Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Mark,

I've been told the metal covers on the screen are glued together and
you have to use heat to get them apart. It is difficult to do. Apple
just replaces the whole assembly.
Paul

On Apr 8, 2004, at 5:03 AM, Mark Kippert wrote:

I have a 400MHz Titanium with a vertical line running up the left 
side
of
the screen. It's a pixel wide. Sometimes it's two pixels.

If I grab the top corners of the screen and torque it slightly (push
one
corner away, pull the other towards me) the lines clear up. When I
release
they come back. This leads me to believe there is a loose connection.
I'd like to take the screen apart but my service manual doesn't cover
it's
disassembly, only it's removal. Does anyone know of instructions,
perhaps
pictures or text posted online, that might help me with the 
procedure?

TIA,
-Mark
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Re: Any instructions on disassembling my Titanium screen assembly?

2004-04-10 Thread Dan K 
Paul Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've been told the metal covers on the screen are glued together and 
>you have to use heat to get them apart. It is difficult to do. Apple 
>just replaces the whole assembly.
I used a hairdryer as a heat source when I pulled apart a TiBook screen, 
but I've since discovered Apple uses a two part acrylic adhesive which 
probably doesn't soften with heat. I don't know if using heat helped with 
my own take-apart, but I suppose it didn't hurt either.

Biggest problem with the take-apart is avoiding distorting the LCD's 
front bezel, a very fragile, easily bent part. I peeled it off very 
slowly and carefully, using a long thin flat wooden wedge to gently pry 
and peel it loose from the LCD. Even with great care however, once I had 
it off I still had quite a job getting the dang thing flat again (a 
little metal-working experience paying off.) :-)

and Scott Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chimed in with:
>You are in for one hell of a hard time if you plan on replacing that screen
>yourself. I've done it twice and it's a long laborious job.
This is certainly so, Apple didn't plan on TiBook LCD or hinge 
replacement to be Customer Installable Parts. :-)

The OP wasn't looking for this, but here's something regarding the 
adhesive I wrote back when Scott was doing his above-mentioned LCD 
replacements, and hopefully no one will mind if I repost it now:
---
I've wondered what sort of adhesive Apple used in the TiBooks as I 
currently have a pair of disassembled TiBooks and would like to shtick 
'em back together again. Recently I stumbled across some relevant info in 
one of Apple's patents, "patent number 6,574,096 - Use of titanium in a 
notebook computer".

It's got lots of details on the TiBook's design and construction, plus it 
has interesting 'discussions' about Ti glue - go down about 2/3 of this 
page (or just repeatedly search the page for 'glue'):


>From the above page:

"Virtually any type of glue suitable for bonding injection molded 
materials to titanium or titanium alloys may be used. An exemplary glue 
suitable for use in various embodiments of the present invention is 
Lord's glue 201/19 manufactured by the Lord Corporation of Cary, N.C."

Here's on Lord Corporation's web site is their "Engineered Adhesives" 
page:


I had a heck of a time finding just what sort of glue is '201/19', but 
eventually found infos in this doc:


ACRYLIC ADHESIVES - LORD 201/19
Applications - Bare metals, plastics and composites
Working Time - 5-8 minutes
Handling Time - Fast, 12-16 minutes
Full Strength - 2 hours, heat cure typically not recommended
Easy to dispense, Self-leveling
Comments - Minimal surface preparation, fast cure, good environmental 
resistance.
---

Permatex makes something which appears to be a similar product called 
PermaPoxy 5 minute Plastic Weld. I recently bought some in a local auto 
parts store. It does stick very nicely to metals and plastics, but it's 
best used in a well ventilated area as the fumes are ferocious!

Dan K

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Re: Any instructions on disassembling my Titanium screen assembly?

2004-04-09 Thread Scott Howe 
Mark,

You are in for one hell of a hard time if you plan on replacing that screen
yourself. I've done it twice and it's a long laborious job. If you plan on
going ahead with it, email me off-list and I'll send you some info.

As far as what Apple does, they sometimes (depending on current LCD prices
and your particular TiBook model) just throw your hard drive in a whole new
case. Then charge you $1200 for it.

Scott




On 4/9/04 11:02 AM, "Paul Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark,
> 
> I've been told the metal covers on the screen are glued together and
> you have to use heat to get them apart. It is difficult to do. Apple
> just replaces the whole assembly.
> 
> Paul
> 
> On Apr 8, 2004, at 5:03 AM, Mark Kippert wrote:
> 
>> I have a 400MHz Titanium with a vertical line running up the left side
>> of
>> the screen. It's a pixel wide. Sometimes it's two pixels.
>> 
>> If I grab the top corners of the screen and torque it slightly (push
>> one
>> corner away, pull the other towards me) the lines clear up. When I
>> release
>> they come back. This leads me to believe there is a loose connection.
>> 
>> I'd like to take the screen apart but my service manual doesn't cover
>> it's
>> disassembly, only it's removal. Does anyone know of instructions,
>> perhaps
>> pictures or text posted online, that might help me with the procedure?
>> 
>> TIA,
>> -Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: Any instructions on disassembling my Titanium screen assembly?

2004-04-09 Thread Paul Nicholson 
Mark,

I've been told the metal covers on the screen are glued together and 
you have to use heat to get them apart. It is difficult to do. Apple 
just replaces the whole assembly.

Paul

On Apr 8, 2004, at 5:03 AM, Mark Kippert wrote:

I have a 400MHz Titanium with a vertical line running up the left side 
of
the screen. It's a pixel wide. Sometimes it's two pixels.

If I grab the top corners of the screen and torque it slightly (push 
one
corner away, pull the other towards me) the lines clear up. When I 
release
they come back. This leads me to believe there is a loose connection.

I'd like to take the screen apart but my service manual doesn't cover 
it's
disassembly, only it's removal. Does anyone know of instructions, 
perhaps
pictures or text posted online, that might help me with the procedure?

TIA,
-Mark
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Any instructions on disassembling my Titanium screen assembly?

2004-04-08 Thread Mark Kippert 
I have a 400MHz Titanium with a vertical line running up the left side of
the screen. It's a pixel wide. Sometimes it's two pixels.

If I grab the top corners of the screen and torque it slightly (push one
corner away, pull the other towards me) the lines clear up. When I release
they come back. This leads me to believe there is a loose connection.

I'd like to take the screen apart but my service manual doesn't cover it's
disassembly, only it's removal. Does anyone know of instructions, perhaps
pictures or text posted online, that might help me with the procedure?

TIA,
-Mark


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