Re: DSL and storms
I think the very definition of insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different result. Once saw a motivational poster: If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got. Except with computers. Sometimes repeated restarts solve the darndest problems. Bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: DSL and storms
The area I live in is currently being served by Adelphia Cable. But, we got a notice in the mail a few weeks back saying that they are being bought out by Comcast. There is supposed to be about a year for the transition to take place but I 'think' I'll be happy with Comcast. Tim On Jun 13, 2005, at 10:12 PM, Pacer wrote: My Fellow PowerBook-philes and Tim, Cable Modems would be nice if only we did not have one of the worst iterations of the Comcast Empire where I live. It was formerly known as MediaOne, then later as ATT Cable and Broadband. MediaOne has the dubioius distinction of having the poorest customer service rating of any cable company ever. Ever. It was fantastic. Man I still shudder about MediaOne. Regardless, I will be moving to Birmingham, AL which only has Charter I understand. I had to deal with them in Athens, GA. They are not as technically savvy as Comcast, nor do they know how to run networks in general, plus they do not have as many nifty features, but goodness ... it's like the difference between Sun and Microsoft in cultures. Sure, I'd prefer a Linux or Apple kind of culture, but at least it isn't an uncaring empire. On an aside: Apparently Paul Allen does have a stake in Charter. Eh. Still, business lines are expensive so I won't be able to run any nifty home-made servers from leftover computers running everything from NetBSD, OS 8.5 to RedHat 9. I plan on getting the DreamCast an Ethernet adapter and turning it into something That oughta be funny. If my Mac SE had a larger hard drive I might even network it (G) Good luck with y'alls DSL and/or Cable Modems and watch out for the lightning! :-) Sincerely, Pacer the Loon Tim Collier wrote: I live in South Florida and we have thunderstorms everyday especially in the Summer. I used to have BellSouth DSL and had a similar experience. I use a cable modem now. No more problems. Tim -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: DSL and storms
On Jun 13, 2005, at 10:40 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 13/06/05 22:12, Pacer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in South Florida and we have thunderstorms everyday especially in the Summer. I used to have BellSouth DSL and had a similar experience. I use a cable modem now. No more problems. For what it's worth, I used to have a Linksys router and, after a thunderstorm, I found that it would not boot properly anymore and had to throw it away. That's the first and only time a computer device of any kind went belly up like this. I don't have to tell you that I never bought a Linksys device again... After growing up in the big city, 25 years ago I moved into the middle of rural Ohio where it was possible to make a local call by dialing just 4 numbers and until four years ago, the house I bought was referred to by locals as The Brinkman Place who, I might add, hadn't lived there since the late 1950s. Having moved into the middle of nowhere, I learned a great number of things that, up to then, I had no need or desire to know. For example: A thunderstorm 25 miles away can cause a surge in the phone lines which every phone in the county will survive but will kill a $300 modem that the insurance company won't pay for. (This was 83-84.) Another thing I learned the hard way (and amazingly enough even today too many people are unaware of) is that all surge protectors wear out and should be replaced frequently. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: DSL and storms
For what it's worth, I used to have a Linksys router and, after a thunderstorm, I found that it ...belly up like this. I don't have to tell you that I never bought a Linksys device again... I too live very rurally in NW Indiana, and built this house at the edge of a field where the land mostly huge acreage of soybeans or corn, except for this subdivision which is a sand hill left by theglaciers which followed THE FLOOD. The soil is composed of sand and oak leaves and has a water table which is only about 2 feet down. I think it is an electrical conductor of the most natural kind, its a wonder the moles don't all have curly hair! I blew 3 modems for our dial up service the first summer we moved in until I found THE surge protector for the phone. Now with the totally worthless linksys router, which like I mentioned is being recalled and was mistakenly marketed for the US...I have explored $everal kind$ of fre$h $urge protector$ andhave had to try again 5 times as they keep $ending the$ame equipment at $print$ ex$pen$e!!! I have also contacted the Sprint field office to ask them to find check the grounding of the phone line and use ...something better. Isn't it insanity to keep trying something that doesn't work? I now await their new 2.0 versionof equipment. If I had a choice in DSL service I would take it. Cable TV isn't even offered. I was thrilled to get DSL, as homeschoolers we use technology for online classes, and library like resources. Kristina -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: DSL and storms
There are things you can do to reduce lightning damage odds dramatically. You need a good arrester (protector) with 3-wire gas tubes and/or 'delta modules' at the service entrance. You MUST have a good ground. (Deity Help You if you are on a granite mountain...). You protect the power as well as the phone line WITH THE SAME GROUND POINT. And you install things correctly. Most telco's fall down in that area... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: DSL and storms
And never ever use internal modems, be they DSL or dialup flavor. External ones are good sacrificial lambs for your motherboard's longevity... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Jun 14, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Kristina wrote: Isn't it insanity to keep trying something that doesn't work? I think the very definition of insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different result. Or maybe that's marketing... I have a hard time telling the two apart. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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on 6/14/05 1:19 PM, Timothy Luoma at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 14, 2005, at 10:03 AM, Kristina wrote: Isn't it insanity to keep trying something that doesn't work? I think the very definition of insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different result. Or maybe that's marketing... I have a hard time telling the two apart. heh heh heh... so right. on a bad day insanity is motherhood...repeating the same thing and expecting a result ...or maybe that's overstating the obvious, ...you have peanut butter on your shirt. K -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: DSL and storms
At 10:33 PM -0500 06/12/2005, Kristina wrote: on 6/12/05 9:12 PM, Pacer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the appearance of the thunderstorm outside and the propensity for my DSL to go down in severe lightning, maybe mother nature will stop me . Since I have had the Linksys Gateway G ADSL wireless router...every puff of bad weather blows the modem. I mean Sprint has sent us 5 count em 5 new router/modems...several techs...and 2 different surge protectors...$$$ Last nite another blown wireless modem...and Sprint now says that this particular router is being recalled and it was never supposed to be sold in the USA. The fact that a surge is hitting you so often, either thru your phone line or thru your power line is BAD. VERY BAD. It means your home is improperly grounded. This is a fire hazard. DO NOT ignore it. Fix it. - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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The fact that a surge is hitting you so often, either thru your phone line or thru your power line is BAD. VERY BAD. It means your home is improperly grounded. This is a fire hazard. DO NOT ignore it. Fix it. That's what I thought too...it must be the lines... Thanks for the warning Kristina -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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on 6/13/05 9:02 AM, Bruce Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Palm pilots are generally quite compatible with macs. I know my M500 has never had a problem, OS 9 or OS X. What do you need one to do? Schedule and project plan?...as portable files that fit in a purse... I am not sure what can be done with it I have homeschooled for the last 13+ years and have just 2 high schoolers left, having graduated my first last year. The school thing is a huge planning project 6+ subjects w texts times the 2 dc remaining around my table, who also take 2 instruments, play in an orchestra and a Christian rock band, grimace, take karat. In addition both older girls have private students, piano guitar and violin, amounting to 20 some families traipsing in and out of my home... I need more help memory at my fingertips than my brain can do I want to be able to plan a textbook, plot assignments, projects and tests and have the PDA report the day's event of who's showing up and where do I have to be and what do we have to do. with an alarm. I also want world peace Kristina also the cool gizmo factor appeals to me -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: DSL and storms
I live in South Florida and we have thunderstorms everyday especially in the Summer. I used to have BellSouth DSL and had a similar experience. I use a cable modem now. No more problems. Tim On Jun 12, 2005, at 11:33 PM, Kristina wrote: on 6/12/05 9:12 PM, Pacer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the appearance of the thunderstorm outside and the propensity for my DSL to go down in severe lightning, maybe mother nature will stop me . Since I have had the Linksys Gateway G ADSL wireless router...every puff of bad weather blows the modem. I mean Sprint has sent us 5 count em 5 new router/modems...several techs...and 2 different surge protectors...$$$ Last nite another blown wireless modem...and Sprint now says that this particular router is being recalled and it was never supposed to be sold in the USA. My my my Kristina who would welcome any suggestions as to what I shoulld look for on ebay concerning a PDA which would b compatible with my G3 /PB OS 9.2.2...or at least what to avoid? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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My Fellow PowerBook-philes and Tim, Cable Modems would be nice if only we did not have one of the worst iterations of the Comcast Empire where I live. It was formerly known as MediaOne, then later as ATT Cable and Broadband. MediaOne has the dubioius distinction of having the poorest customer service rating of any cable company ever. Ever. It was fantastic. Man I still shudder about MediaOne. Regardless, I will be moving to Birmingham, AL which only has Charter I understand. I had to deal with them in Athens, GA. They are not as technically savvy as Comcast, nor do they know how to run networks in general, plus they do not have as many nifty features, but goodness ... it's like the difference between Sun and Microsoft in cultures. Sure, I'd prefer a Linux or Apple kind of culture, but at least it isn't an uncaring empire. On an aside: Apparently Paul Allen does have a stake in Charter. Eh. Still, business lines are expensive so I won't be able to run any nifty home-made servers from leftover computers running everything from NetBSD, OS 8.5 to RedHat 9. I plan on getting the DreamCast an Ethernet adapter and turning it into something That oughta be funny. If my Mac SE had a larger hard drive I might even network it (G) Good luck with y'alls DSL and/or Cable Modems and watch out for the lightning! :-) Sincerely, Pacer the Loon Tim Collier wrote: I live in South Florida and we have thunderstorms everyday especially in the Summer. I used to have BellSouth DSL and had a similar experience. I use a cable modem now. No more problems. Tim -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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on 13/06/05 22:12, Pacer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in South Florida and we have thunderstorms everyday especially in the Summer. I used to have BellSouth DSL and had a similar experience. I use a cable modem now. No more problems. For what it's worth, I used to have a Linksys router and, after a thunderstorm, I found that it would not boot properly anymore and had to throw it away. That's the first and only time a computer device of any kind went belly up like this. I don't have to tell you that I never bought a Linksys device again... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] elder days n.: The heroic age of hackerdom (roughly, pre-1980); the era of the PDP-10, TECO, ITS, and the ARPANET. This term has been rather consciously adopted from J. R. R. Tolkien's fantasy epic The Lord of the Rings. Compare Iron Age; see also elvish and Great Worm. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
DSL and storms
on 6/12/05 9:12 PM, Pacer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the appearance of the thunderstorm outside and the propensity for my DSL to go down in severe lightning, maybe mother nature will stop me . Since I have had the Linksys Gateway G ADSL wireless router...every puff of bad weather blows the modem. I mean Sprint has sent us 5 count em 5 new router/modems...several techs...and 2 different surge protectors...$$$ Last nite another blown wireless modem...and Sprint now says that this particular router is being recalled and it was never supposed to be sold in the USA. My my my Kristina who would welcome any suggestions as to what I shoulld look for on ebay concerning a PDA which would b compatible with my G3 /PB OS 9.2.2...or at least what to avoid? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
