Re: FinderPop like utility for OS X

2005-03-02 Thread Frank Cornew
Response to Bruce:
Fruitmenu WILL do what Finderpop did. Think someone referred to it as 
'Drilling' folders. At any rate, configure the 'fruitmenu' pane of 
the Fruitmenu System Preference panel to permit 'click and hold mouse 
to access contextual menu in finder' to whatever delay suits you. 
Then access the contextual menu pane of the Fruitmenu pref panel to 
include whatever you need in the contextual menu - mounted volume, 
selected folder are good choices. Remove 'dance for me, wash my 
clothes, fix dinner'. Add whatever you like.

I added Moveitems X because it allowed transport of files to the 
drilled folder, in the manner of Popup Folder, which was orphaned and 
stopped functioning after an OS 8.x update. At any rate both Popup 
Folder and Finder pop were very elegant and easy to use. Can see why 
fruitmenu doesn't appear to be a replacement, as it does do a lot 
more and requires some persistence to configure. I also have folders 
that pop out of the apple menu, for instance.

Response to Laurent:
(with great humbleness and respect to the listnanny)
Think that Finderpop's developer drifted away from the mac - or he 
wasn't a full time developer. At any rate Finderpop was distributed 
as a variation of shareware 'pintware', where satisfied users were 
encouraged to send the author beer/stout money. This might explain 
his lack of progress

F.
on 01/03/05 14:59, Bruce Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Feb 28, 2005, at 9:00 PM, Frank Cornew wrote:
 Fruitmenu coupled with moveitems X has made for a satisfactory
 substitute for Finderpop (which substituted for popup folder)
 It appears from reading the Fruitmenu site that it does everything
 EXCEPT the ONE thing I need it to do (and the ONE thing I used
 FinderPop for)...pop up the contextual menu when I hold down the mouse
 button.
 There is a utility called 'Look Mom, No Hands', also for OS 9 and lower
 that does just this but it doesn't work with OS X either.
 It's all I want.
  I don't need my menus to replace the finder, dance for me wash my
  clothes and fix dinner, I just want them to pop up without me having to
 use two hands...
Bruce,
Do you think such utility would be useful and that a lot of people would use
it? I'm kinda wondering why the other of FinderPop never ported his
application to OS X...
But if there would be some demand, that might be something I could wrote.
I've been doing Cocoa development since basically 1992, so I know a little
bit about developing on OS X...
-Laurent.
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Re: FinderPop like utility for OS X

2005-03-01 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 28, 2005, at 9:00 PM, Frank Cornew wrote:
Fruitmenu coupled with moveitems X has made for a satisfactory 
substitute for Finderpop (which substituted for popup folder)

It appears from reading the Fruitmenu site that it does everything 
EXCEPT the ONE thing I need it to do (and the ONE thing I used 
FinderPop for)...pop up the contextual menu when I hold down the mouse 
button.

There is a utility called 'Look Mom, No Hands', also for OS 9 and lower 
that does just this but it doesn't work with OS X either.

It's all I want.
I don't need my menus to replace the finder, dance for me wash my 
clothes and fix dinner, I just want them to pop up without me having to 
use two hands...

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Re: FinderPop like utility for OS X

2005-03-01 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 01/03/05 14:59, Bruce Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Feb 28, 2005, at 9:00 PM, Frank Cornew wrote:
 
 Fruitmenu coupled with moveitems X has made for a satisfactory
 substitute for Finderpop (which substituted for popup folder)
 
 
 It appears from reading the Fruitmenu site that it does everything
 EXCEPT the ONE thing I need it to do (and the ONE thing I used
 FinderPop for)...pop up the contextual menu when I hold down the mouse
 button.
 
 There is a utility called 'Look Mom, No Hands', also for OS 9 and lower
 that does just this but it doesn't work with OS X either.
 
 It's all I want.
 
 I don't need my menus to replace the finder, dance for me wash my
 clothes and fix dinner, I just want them to pop up without me having to
 use two hands...
 

Bruce,

Do you think such utility would be useful and that a lot of people would use
it? I'm kinda wondering why the other of FinderPop never ported his
application to OS X...

But if there would be some demand, that might be something I could wrote.
I've been doing Cocoa development since basically 1992, so I know a little
bit about developing on OS X...

-Laurent.
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Re: FinderPop like utility for OS X

2005-03-01 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Mar 1, 2005, at 2:36 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
Bruce,
Do you think such utility would be useful and that a lot of people 
would use
it? I'm kinda wondering why the other of FinderPop never ported his
application to OS X...
I know I'd snap it up in a heartbeat.
Turly quit working on FinderPop because he and Apple had a parting of 
the ways (in many senses) when OS X came out.

http://www.finderpop.com  (I don't think the sordid details are still 
there, though)

I know what it's got to do, conceptually:
on button-down-and-hold:
	if the pointer has not moved in settings time then tell contextual 
menu manager to get busy;

The problem, of course is that it involves patching the mouse drivers, 
and that a wee bit deep into the guts for me, but it's a simple thing: 
Look Mom No Hands http://www.toolsandtoys.com/ did it in 90K as an 
classic OS extension.

The ONLY thing LMNH does is pop up the contextual menu after you've 
held down the mouse button without moving for the time defined by the 
double-click setting.  I paid for that, I'd pay for one in OS X.

It doesn't need all the other whiz-bang doodads these other apps need.
But if there would be some demand, that might be something I could 
wrote.
I've been doing Cocoa development since basically 1992, so I know a 
little
bit about developing on OS X...
Good, saves me the hassle of having to a heck of a lot just to do 
this

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Re: FinderPop like utility for OS X

2005-02-28 Thread Mark D. Chapman
Under OS X there used to be a utility called FinderPop, which among a
number of other things, set the contextual menu to pop up when you held
the mouse button down qithout moving it for a time.
FinderPop was never updated for OS X; does anyone know of anything that
does this for OS X?
I use Sidetrack on my laptop. In addition to its 
primary purpose of turning the edges of your 
trackpad into scroll areas it also allows you to 
assign functions to the trackpad's four corners. 
I use the four corners for expose, control-click 
and hide all. A wonderful application.
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Re: FinderPop like utility for OS X

2005-02-28 Thread Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo
On Feb 28, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Mark D. Chapman wrote:
Under OS X there used to be a utility called FinderPop, which among a
number of other things, set the contextual menu to pop up when you 
held
the mouse button down qithout moving it for a time.

FinderPop was never updated for OS X; does anyone know of anything 
that
does this for OS X?
I use Sidetrack on my laptop. In addition to its primary purpose of 
turning the edges of your trackpad into scroll areas it also allows 
you to assign functions to the trackpad's four corners. I use the four 
corners for expose, control-click and hide all. A wonderful 
application.
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The Canadian Society For The Study Of Religion/ Société canadienne 
pour l'étude de la religion

YES! SideTrack does not work on the new PowerBooks - different trackpad 
- so I miss its features. I used it on my old Pismo with lots of 
success! Quite a powerful utility!

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Re: FinderPop like utility for OS X

2005-02-28 Thread themacuser
The new trackpads are USB, the old ones were ADB. The two-finger 
scrolling can actually be enabled on older powerbooks and iBooks, 
basically any PowerBook G4 and any white iBook or above can do it, with 
this http://www-users.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de/~razzfazz/
I have this working, it's really cool...

You can also rightclick by putting two fingers on the pad, hitting the 
button and then releasing both.
On 01/03/2005, at 06:18, Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo wrote:

On Feb 28, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Mark D. Chapman wrote:
Under OS X there used to be a utility called FinderPop, which among a
number of other things, set the contextual menu to pop up when you 
held
the mouse button down qithout moving it for a time.

FinderPop was never updated for OS X; does anyone know of anything 
that
does this for OS X?
I use Sidetrack on my laptop. In addition to its primary purpose of 
turning the edges of your trackpad into scroll areas it also allows 
you to assign functions to the trackpad's four corners. I use the 
four corners for expose, control-click and hide all. A wonderful 
application.
--
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The Canadian Society For The Study Of Religion/ Société canadienne 
pour l'étude de la religion

YES! SideTrack does not work on the new PowerBooks - different 
trackpad - so I miss its features. I used it on my old Pismo with lots 
of success! Quite a powerful utility!

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FinderPop like utility for OS X

2005-02-28 Thread Frank Cornew
Fruitmenu coupled with moveitems X has made for a satisfactory 
substitute for Finderpop (which substituted for popup folder)
F.


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From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FinderPop like utility for OS X
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 13:02:57 -0700
Have a brand (new to me) Pismo, first OS X laptop.
On my desktops I use my Kensington trackballs that have a button set to
control-click, but I am NOT going to lug around a mouse to use with my
new laptop.
Under OS X there used to be a utility called FinderPop, which among a
number of other things, set the contextual menu to pop up when you held
the mouse button down qithout moving it for a time.
FinderPop was never updated for OS X; does anyone know of anything that
does this for OS X?
(I don't need contextual navigations of my hard drive, the internet and
have a dock/desktop/Finder replacement app, I just want the bleep
context menu to pop up.
Suggestions?
Bruce
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FinderPop like utility for OS X

2005-02-27 Thread Bruce Johnson
Have a brand (new to me) Pismo, first OS X laptop.
On my desktops I use my Kensington trackballs that have a button set to 
control-click, but I am NOT going to lug around a mouse to use with my 
new laptop.

Under OS X there used to be a utility called FinderPop, which among a 
number of other things, set the contextual menu to pop up when you held 
the mouse button down qithout moving it for a time.

FinderPop was never updated for OS X; does anyone know of anything that 
does this for OS X?

(I don't need contextual navigations of my hard drive, the internet and 
have a dock/desktop/Finder replacement app, I just want the bleep 
context menu to pop up.

Suggestions?
Bruce

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Re: FinderPop like utility for OS X

2005-02-27 Thread Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo
On Feb 27, 2005, at 1:02 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
Have a brand (new to me) Pismo, first OS X laptop.
On my desktops I use my Kensington trackballs that have a button set 
to control-click, but I am NOT going to lug around a mouse to use with 
my new laptop.

Under OS X there used to be a utility called FinderPop, which among a 
number of other things, set the contextual menu to pop up when you 
held the mouse button down qithout moving it for a time.

FinderPop was never updated for OS X; does anyone know of anything 
that does this for OS X?

(I don't need contextual navigations of my hard drive, the internet 
and have a dock/desktop/Finder replacement app, I just want the 
bleep context menu to pop up.

Suggestions?
Bruce
Bruce:
I recommend FruitMenu http://www.unsanity.com/ which has a Click and 
Hold Mouse to Access Contextual Menu in FInder feature. But of course 
this only applies to the Finder.

Personally, I carry around a small two button scroll wheel optical 
mouse with me anyway and I use USB Overdrive to program my buttons 
(scroll wheel is a button too). I have done this during the four years 
I used my Pismo and continue with my new PBG4 1.5GHz.

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Re: FinderPop like utility for OS X

2005-02-27 Thread Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo
On Feb 27, 2005, at 1:02 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
Have a brand (new to me) Pismo, first OS X laptop.
On my desktops I use my Kensington trackballs that have a button set 
to control-click, but I am NOT going to lug around a mouse to use with 
my new laptop.

Under OS X there used to be a utility called FinderPop, which among a 
number of other things, set the contextual menu to pop up when you 
held the mouse button down qithout moving it for a time.

FinderPop was never updated for OS X; does anyone know of anything 
that does this for OS X?

(I don't need contextual navigations of my hard drive, the internet 
and have a dock/desktop/Finder replacement app, I just want the 
bleep context menu to pop up.

Suggestions?
I forgot to mention that FinderPop was an app that I missed when I left 
OS 9 behind and my new PB is the 1.67GHz. I would love to hear what 
other people use as a contextual menu utility.

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