Re: Burning mad, Firewire problem
Dear G-Books List and Nick, My replies to Nick appear within his questions. At 3:30 PM -0400 5/25/05, G-Books wrote: Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:44:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Burning mad, Firewire problem In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you following the directions properly from Apple? Are you wanting to move files from the Pismo to the Qs? The order should be QS on. Shut down PB. Connect firewire cable. Start the PB while holding down the 'T' key. The PB should appear as a drive to the QS. Then you could drag any files from the PB to the QS. Yes, I'm following the KB instructions. I'm trying to create clone of the Pismo drive in a partition on the QS. Note: that dragging files is not the way to produce a backup since neither invisibles or all system files would be copied. That's why under panther I tried the Disk Utility which can implement a restore. The other apps are supposed to be able to copy everything, although Carbon Copy Cloner is reported sometimes not work from a firewire target disk according to the developer's website. Do you have a non US keylayout? Any key modifiers? Is the keyboard on the Qs on a hub? Are the Firewire ports on both machines good? Is the cable good? I've only done this once and it worked for me, so I'm throwing out ideas. The QS's keyboard is a Matias tactilepro USB connected directly to the QS's usb port. No hub. This is standard US layout. No modifiers or keyboard utility software used. Firewire ports tested with external Firewire/USB external drive, both read and write tests positive. Thanks for this possible troubleshooting list. Another lista suggested going direction by mounting the QS on the Pismo as a FTD. I'll try that unless anyone else has some thoughts. I was trying to keep it simple and avoid buying another external drive big enough to backup to, since my current one is the Pismo's replaced original hard drive. Thanks for the help. Brent .nick On Tue, 24 May 2005, Brent Baeslack wrote: I'm hoping that the combined knowledge of the list can end my firewire torture. I should be able to connect my PISMO 400 mhz 768 MB OS 10.3 in firewire target disk (FTD) mode to a Quicksilver 733 mhz 640 MB OS 10.3 but every time I try to access the FTD for backup purposes it freezes. I installed a second internal 120GB hard drive and created a partition to backup to. What I have experienced is stalls and freezes with Disk Utility application, Carbon Copy Cloner, and Data Backup. To try and recover from these firewire freezes I run Applejack and then Tech Tool Pro 4 to repair the disks. Is there a preference I should trash to stop this pattern? Is this some kind of firewire firmware compatability problem between the Quicksilver Pismo? I'm trying to backup, which is a good thing, but buying an external drive means laying out more money. Ideas, suggestions, and /or free beer appreciated. -- Cheers, Brent -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Burning mad, Firewire problem
On Fri, 27 May 2005, Brent Baeslack wrote: Dear G-Books List and Nick, My replies to Nick appear within his questions. At 3:30 PM -0400 5/25/05, G-Books wrote: Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:44:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Burning mad, Firewire problem In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you following the directions properly from Apple? Are you wanting to move files from the Pismo to the Qs? The order should be QS on. Shut down PB. Connect firewire cable. Start the PB while holding down the 'T' key. The PB should appear as a drive to the QS. Then you could drag any files from the PB to the QS. Yes, I'm following the KB instructions. I'm trying to create clone of the Pismo drive in a partition on the QS. Note: that dragging files is not the way to produce a backup since neither invisibles or all system files would be copied. That's why under panther I tried the Disk Utility which can implement a restore. The other apps are supposed to be able to copy everything, although Carbon Copy Cloner is reported sometimes not work from a firewire target disk according to the developer's website. Oh, your cloning the whole drive. That never worked for me. If I remember it was complaining about not being able to continue because a file was in use or something. I'm thinking I should have booted from the CD and tried it, but I used my regular method below. I tried CCC and it did not work for me either. When I moved from x.2.6 to x.3.5 I made a disk image of my home directory, backed that up to my FWHD, wiped my Ti drive, Installed the new OS, Re-installed my apps, and moved all my files over. Had to reset the prefs for stuff, but it didn't take long. Do you have a non US keylayout? Any key modifiers? Is the keyboard on the Qs on a hub? Are the Firewire ports on both machines good? Is the cable good? I've only done this once and it worked for me, so I'm throwing out ideas. The QS's keyboard is a Matias tactilepro USB connected directly to the QS's usb port. No hub. This is standard US layout. No modifiers or keyboard utility software used. Firewire ports tested with external Firewire/USB external drive, both read and write tests positive. Thanks for this possible troubleshooting list. Another lista suggested going direction by mounting the QS on the Pismo as a FTD. I'll try that unless anyone else has some thoughts. I was trying to keep it simple and avoid buying another external drive big enough to backup to, since my current one is the Pismo's replaced original hard drive. Thanks for the help. Brent Wish I had a solution for you. Good luck. -- Nick http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle therhythmex: AIM, Jabber, and Yahoo Messenger ID So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galations 4:16 [NASB] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Burning mad, Firewire problem
I'm hoping that the combined knowledge of the list can end my firewire torture. I should be able to connect my PISMO 400 mhz 768 MB OS 10.3 in firewire target disk (FTD) mode to a Quicksilver 733 mhz 640 MB OS 10.3 but every time I try to access the FTD for backup purposes it freezes. I installed a second internal 120GB hard drive and created a partition to backup to. What I have experienced is stalls and freezes with Disk Utility application, Carbon Copy Cloner, and Data Backup. To try and recover from these firewire freezes I run Applejack and then Tech Tool Pro 4 to repair the disks. Is there a preference I should trash to stop this pattern? Is this some kind of firewire firmware compatability problem between the Quicksilver Pismo? I'm trying to backup, which is a good thing, but buying an external drive means laying out more money. Ideas, suggestions, and /or free beer appreciated. -- Cheers, Brent -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Burning mad, Firewire problem
Are you following the directions properly from Apple? Are you wanting to move files from the Pismo to the Qs? The order should be QS on. Shut down PB. Connect firewire cable. Start the PB while holding down the 'T' key. The PB should appear as a drive to the QS. Then you could drag any files from the PB to the QS. Do you have a non US keylayout? Any key modifiers? Is the keyboard on the Qs on a hub? Are the Firewire ports on both machines good? Is the cable good? I've only done this once and it worked for me, so I'm throwing out ideas. .nick On Tue, 24 May 2005, Brent Baeslack wrote: I'm hoping that the combined knowledge of the list can end my firewire torture. I should be able to connect my PISMO 400 mhz 768 MB OS 10.3 in firewire target disk (FTD) mode to a Quicksilver 733 mhz 640 MB OS 10.3 but every time I try to access the FTD for backup purposes it freezes. I installed a second internal 120GB hard drive and created a partition to backup to. What I have experienced is stalls and freezes with Disk Utility application, Carbon Copy Cloner, and Data Backup. To try and recover from these firewire freezes I run Applejack and then Tech Tool Pro 4 to repair the disks. Is there a preference I should trash to stop this pattern? Is this some kind of firewire firmware compatability problem between the Quicksilver Pismo? I'm trying to backup, which is a good thing, but buying an external drive means laying out more money. Ideas, suggestions, and /or free beer appreciated. -- Cheers, Brent -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- Nick http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle therhythmex: AIM, Jabber, and Yahoo Messenger ID So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galations 4:16 [NASB] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Burning mad, Firewire problem
I'm hoping that the combined knowledge of the list can end my firewire torture. I should be able to connect my PISMO 400 mhz 768 MB OS 10.3 in firewire target disk (FTD) mode to a Quicksilver 733 mhz 640 MB OS 10.3 but every time I try to access the FTD for backup purposes it freezes. Try the other direction: put the Quicksilver into target mode... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Firewire problem
I have received Panther but not yet installed it. I have a LaCie 400FW Studiodrive I bought in 2000 or 2001. I don't know whether this is equivalent to a d2 drive. So I asked LaCie: product name: StudioDrive serial: 754105180297 6774A purchase date: 2001 interface: Firewire I am upgrading to Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther). Should I apply your firmware update in your Updater 6.4.8a to this drive? their answer was: Yes please do so from an OS9 machine. Also backup any important data on the drive prior to this Wait until you have finished the 10.3 install before you attach the drive. Mike -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
firewire problem after osX install on pismo
well, i finally broke down and installed OSX after getting a larger HD. installed that(IBM travelstar 40 GB - definitely quieter), and put old HD into a firewire enclosure. the old HD reads and writes just fine under OSX, but is not seen when i boot up under OS9 in separate partition (the enclosure power light is on and as OS9 boots the red activity light briefly flashes, but after that it is quiet, and although seen under the system profiler, does not appear on the desktop. any ideas on what i can do to access it from OS9 (where i will be much of the time while i get used to X) thanks -- george ruta - northcountry kayak **sea kayaks for upstate new york and new england** 518-677-3040, http://www.capital.net/com/nckayak -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: firewire problem after osX install on pismo
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 11:56 PM, george ruta wrote: well, i finally broke down and installed OSX after getting a larger HD. installed that(IBM travelstar 40 GB - definitely quieter), and put old HD into a firewire enclosure. the old HD reads and writes just fine under OSX, but is not seen when i boot up under OS9 in separate partition (the enclosure power light is on and as OS9 boots the red activity light briefly flashes, but after that it is quiet, and although seen under the system profiler, does not appear on the desktop. any ideas on what i can do to access it from OS9 (where i will be much of the time while i get used to X) Did format it with OS X? You need to format it so that OS 9 can read it. Having a larger customer base is an indication of market superiority, not of product superiority. http://homepage.mac.com/stmoody -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: firewire problem after osX install on pismo
on 25/09/03 00:25, Steve Moody at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 11:56 PM, george ruta wrote: well, i finally broke down and installed OSX after getting a larger HD. installed that(IBM travelstar 40 GB - definitely quieter), and put old HD into a firewire enclosure. the old HD reads and writes just fine under OSX, but is not seen when i boot up under OS9 in separate partition (the enclosure power light is on and as OS9 boots the red activity light briefly flashes, but after that it is quiet, and although seen under the system profiler, does not appear on the desktop. any ideas on what i can do to access it from OS9 (where i will be much of the time while i get used to X) Did format it with OS X? You need to format it so that OS 9 can read it. If he did format it using the default setting, it will be formatted as HFS+, which can be read by OS 9. However, you have to make sure that you have the OS 9 drivers installed, which is not on by default... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sometimes the majority only means that all the fools are on the same side. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
