Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-20 Thread Mikael Byström
Did I miss the parts in this discussion concerning that you really can't
run a PB G4 with the lid closed? Or was this assumed from the beginning
and I missed that?


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Re: Wireless keyboard/mouse (was G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-18 Thread Larry le Mac
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Yes it uses the built in bluetooth
What is the movement like of a Bluetooth mouse ?
How precise and how smooth ?
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Re: Wireless keyboard/mouse (was G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-18 Thread larry Zasitko
I have found that it tracks very smooth, as well as the wired optical  
mouse that I was using. Not much is available on specs but you can see  
it here: http://www.macally.com/new/new_btmini.html.

Larry
On Dec 18, 2004, at 2:03 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
From: larry Zasitko [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes it uses the built in bluetooth
What is the movement like of a Bluetooth mouse ?
How precise and how smooth ?
Larry
 

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Re: Wireless keyboard/mouse (was G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-18 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Friday, December 17, 2004, at 08:11 PM, Harry D. Corsover wrote:
Does the MacAlly Bluetooth mouse use the PowerBook's built-in 
Bluetooth, or does it need a transceiver plugged into a USB port?
If it doesn't it's not a bluetooth. There are a number of wireless mice 
on the market that aren't BT...

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Re: Wireless keyboard/mouse (was G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-18 Thread mray
I have used a Logitech KB/Mouse combo (and separately) with no 
problems, also have hooked up a USB Wacom Tablet on occassion works 
just fine.

Go to an Office/Electronics Mega store (if possible) and try a few out. 
Everybody has a different preference for feel and response. I have been 
happy with Logitech and Microsoft products.

I dislike the feel of the Apple keyboard that came with my new iMac so 
the KB and mouse never make it out of the box for long.

The folks at work love the Apple mouse and can't understand how I could 
use a Multi-button mouse or a Trackman.

Regards,
mark
On Dec 17, 2004, at 12:51 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
Further to Andre's question about wireless k/m
1. Does a wireless keyboard and mouse work well with
   using an AlBook as a desktop ???
2. How good are the wireless mice ???
Are there different technologies ? Better/worse ?
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Re: Wireless keyboard/mouse (was G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-17 Thread Harry D . Corsover
On Dec 17, 2004, at 1:51 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
1. Does a wireless keyboard and mouse work well with
   using an AlBook as a desktop ???
Works great for me, with the AlBook on the Pedestal CoolPad to bring 
the screen up to the right height.

2. How good are the wireless mice ???
Can't help you with this one. I haven't tried their wireless mouse, 
since I don't want to give up the multi-button mouse I'm used to (an 
older MS Intellimouse Explorer). I've yet to see a Bluetooth wireless 
mouse (i.e., with build-in bluothooth, not requiring a USB transceiver, 
since my AlBook has built-in Bluetooth) that doesn't cost more than 
it's worth to me. With my setup, if I'm going to plug something into a 
USB port, I may as well use a corded mouse.

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Re: Wireless keyboard/mouse (was G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-17 Thread John C. Swanson
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Subject: Re: Wireless keyboard/mouse (was G4 AlBook as a desktop ???


Can't help you with this one. I haven't tried their wireless mouse, 
since I don't want to give up the multi-button mouse I'm used to (an 
older MS Intellimouse Explorer). I've yet to see a Bluetooth wireless 
mouse (i.e., with build-in bluothooth, not requiring a USB transceiver, 
since my AlBook has built-in Bluetooth) that doesn't cost more than 
it's worth to me. With my setup, if I'm going to plug something into a 
USB port, I may as well use a corded mouse.

Regards,

Harry Corsover
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You only need the USB transceiver if you don't have built in Bluetooth.
Any Bluetooth keyboard  mouse will work with your AlBook with out you
plugging in anything.

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Re: Wireless keyboard/mouse (was G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-17 Thread larry Zasitko
I use a bluetooth keyboard and mouse with my PowerBook and it works  
great. I originally bought a Apple bluetooth mouse but prefered a two  
button mouse and recently bought a MacAlly bluetooth mouse with two  
buttons and scroll wheel, pretty nice except it goes to sleep after  
only a few minutes without moving it, says connection lost and you have  
to double click to wake it and then it takes a couple seconds to work  
again. Oh well, other then that they both work great. If the computer  
goes to sleep the mouse or keyboard will wake it. I was at my brother  
in laws and he wanted to try them on his 17, next morning he just  
turned the mouse back on and it woke my computer that was downstairs.

 

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Re: Wireless keyboard/mouse (was G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-17 Thread larry Zasitko
Yes it uses the built in bluetooth, I did not want anything else to  
plug in and lose I have seen a couple others advertised but these  
were in stock at Westworld Computers in Calgary so bought it there. It  
is a bit smaller than the Apple mouse but so far no problems. If you  
use the Apple mouse it tells you battery status while the MacAlly does  
not. It has a blue led under the scroll wheel that will blink when it  
gets low.

Larry
On Dec 17, 2004, at 8:11 PM, Harry D. Corsover wrote:
Does the MacAlly Bluetooth mouse use the PowerBook's built-in  
Bluetooth, or does it need a transceiver plugged into a USB port?

Harry
 

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Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-16 Thread Larry le Mac
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A much cheaper option would have been to get an iCurve or similar, although 
I wish I had thought to tell my wife that what I really needed was a 19 
monitor ;-)
Price is not an issue (at all), I am limiting it to 19 because I
need space for other things here at work.
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G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-13 Thread Larry le Mac
I have a G4 AlBook 1GHz and I am getting a 19 monitor
in order to sit correctly, looking straight forward at the
screen instead of 30 degrees downwards.
Is it possible to use the AlBook with an external screen only
and the built in screen closed, obviously with an external
keyboard and mouse ?
Are there any particular Energysaver settings required to prevent
it from going to sleep ?
I haven't tried yet as I haven't got the screen yet.
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Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-13 Thread Art Russell
Larry,

I've got an AL15 at 1.5Ghz and routinely use it with an external monitor.
It will work either with the PowerBook lid open or closed. As to Energy
management, simply open Energy Saver from System Preferences and move all
settings to Never. However, if you are using a LCD monitor, I'd recommend
against never sleeping the monitor as you will accelerate degradation of the
illumination lamp. I've worn out several across the past couple of years.

Cheers,

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Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-13 Thread Bill Gau
Larry:

I have a 15 ALbook 1.25GHz that I routinely use as a laptop /
desktop.  Presently, as a desktop, it is jacked into a 22 LCD Cinema
display (via Apple's DVI to ADC adapter) and a USB keyboard / mouse. 
The following will go for an external VGA as well.

Some thoughts on this configuration:

-- Usually when I am ready to use as a desktop, I make sure the system
is already booted up and in OS X.  Then I close the lid, putting it in
pseudo-sleep mode;
-- I then plug in the monitor via the DVI adapter, along with the USB
connector (the keyboard and mouse are plugged into the USB on the
Cinema Display)
-- Then I plug in any firewire devices
-- Then the audio connector
-- And lastly the power connector.

What I have found is that the powerbook does not wake up from sleep
until I do the last step, i.e., plug in the power supply.  It appears
the powerbook WILL NOT allow a docked configuration just running off
the battery.

Also, if you want to span between your monitor and the powerbook LCD
display, repeat the above steps and then open your powerbook and set
up the span feature by opening System Preferences, selecting Displays,
and then choosing Detect Displays.  This should cause your powerbook
to detect both the external display as well as the powerbooks LCD.

As far as the energy saving settings I would recommend, since you must
be connected to the A/C adapter to use it in desktop mode, just set
all settings to never.

FWIW.

Bill

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 15:04:35 +0100, Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a G4 AlBook 1GHz and I am getting a 19 monitor
 in order to sit correctly, looking straight forward at the
 screen instead of 30 degrees downwards.
 
 Is it possible to use the AlBook with an external screen only
 and the built in screen closed, obviously with an external
 keyboard and mouse ?
 
 Are there any particular Energysaver settings required to prevent
 it from going to sleep ?
 
 I haven't tried yet as I haven't got the screen yet.
 
 Larry
 
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Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-13 Thread Timothy Luoma
On Dec 13, 2004, at 9:04 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
I have a G4 AlBook 1GHz and I am getting a 19 monitor
in order to sit correctly, looking straight forward at the
screen instead of 30 degrees downwards.
A much cheaper option would have been to get an iCurve or similar, 
although I wish I had thought to tell my wife that what I really needed 
was a 19 monitor ;-)

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Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-13 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Bill Gau [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- I then plug in the monitor via the DVI adapter, along with the USB
connector (the keyboard and mouse are plugged into the USB on the
Cinema Display)
-- Then I plug in any firewire devices
-- Then the audio connector
-- And lastly the power connector.
The PowerBook is mostly used at work on my desk and I am not too
keen on unplugging/plugging in everything every day.
Will it not work well just left plugged in and then switched off/on ?
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Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-13 Thread Marcin Wichary
However, if you are using a LCD monitor, I'd recommend
against never sleeping the monitor as you will accelerate degradation 
of the
illumination lamp. I've worn out several across the past couple of 
years.
This is new to me, I always assumed that the LCDs should be put to 
sleep as often as possible in order *not* to accelerate degradation of 
the illumination lamp. Could you elaborate some more?

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Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-13 Thread John C. Swanson
In my experience which granted, does not include 'AL'Books nor the new
keyboards that don't have a power key, is that just hook the PowerBook
up to everything with the lid closed and then use the power key on the
keyboard.

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Subject: Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

From: Bill Gau [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- I then plug in the monitor via the DVI adapter, along with the USB
connector (the keyboard and mouse are plugged into the USB on the
Cinema Display)
-- Then I plug in any firewire devices
-- Then the audio connector
-- And lastly the power connector.

The PowerBook is mostly used at work on my desk and I am not too
keen on unplugging/plugging in everything every day.

Will it not work well just left plugged in and then switched off/on ?


Larry

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Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-13 Thread John C. Swanson
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Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 17:57
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Subject: Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

 However, if you are using a LCD monitor, I'd recommend
 against never sleeping the monitor as you will accelerate degradation 
 of the
 illumination lamp. I've worn out several across the past couple of 
 years.

This is new to me, I always assumed that the LCDs should be put to 
sleep as often as possible in order *not* to accelerate degradation of 
the illumination lamp. Could you elaborate some more?
--

Actually that's what he said, he just used double negatives, which makes
it confusing to read.

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Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-13 Thread Marcin Wichary
This is new to me, I always assumed that the LCDs should be put to 
sleep as often as possible in order *not* to accelerate degradation 
of the illumination lamp. Could you elaborate some more?
In a tortured double-negative, what he said was he recommends against 
leaving the monitor on all the time.

Yes, it should be allowed to sleep since the cold-cathode tubes used 
for backlighting have a finite lifetime.
Ah, right, now I see it. :) Thanks and sorry for the confusion.
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Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ??? - Heat

2004-12-13 Thread Larry le Mac
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I was advised to leave the lid of the Powerbook open, all the way to use 
the second screen for palettes and toolbars, or at least partially (about 
halfway) to allow the heat to disipate (from the CPU) not the monitor. With 
the lid closed the heat will rise right into the screen. Made sense so at 
least halfway it was.
Sounds sensible, however, I use a 12V brushless fan (taken from a
PC case) running with a 9V transformer = silent.
It faces the back of the PB and the PB has a couple of Mac IIcx
rubber blocks (keep it in the family eh) at each back corner.
It keeps my otherwise rather hot PB very nice and cool as the air
circulates under the machine.
Having the lid open shouldn't be a problem as I want the ext.
screen quite high to eliminate back problems.
I may stick with the PB keyboard as it is rather nice...
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Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-13 Thread Clark Martin
At 11:12 AM -0700 12/13/04, Bill Gau wrote:
Larry:
I have a 15 ALbook 1.25GHz that I routinely use as a laptop /
desktop.  Presently, as a desktop, it is jacked into a 22 LCD Cinema
display (via Apple's DVI to ADC adapter) and a USB keyboard / mouse.
The following will go for an external VGA as well.
Some thoughts on this configuration:
-- Usually when I am ready to use as a desktop, I make sure the system
is already booted up and in OS X.  Then I close the lid, putting it in
pseudo-sleep mode;
-- I then plug in the monitor via the DVI adapter, along with the USB
connector (the keyboard and mouse are plugged into the USB on the
Cinema Display)
-- Then I plug in any firewire devices
-- Then the audio connector
-- And lastly the power connector.
What I have found is that the powerbook does not wake up from sleep
until I do the last step, i.e., plug in the power supply.  It appears
the powerbook WILL NOT allow a docked configuration just running off
the battery.
Specifically it's the monitor it doesn't allow to be used while on 
battery power.

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Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Dec 13, 2004, at 3:56 PM, Marcin Wichary wrote:
However, if you are using a LCD monitor, I'd recommend
against never sleeping the monitor as you will accelerate degradation 
of the
illumination lamp. I've worn out several across the past couple of 
years.
This is new to me, I always assumed that the LCDs should be put to 
sleep as often as possible in order *not* to accelerate degradation of 
the illumination lamp. Could you elaborate some more?
In a tortured double-negative, what he said was he recommends against 
leaving the monitor on all the time.

Yes, it should be allowed to sleep since the cold-cathode tubes used 
for backlighting have a finite lifetime.

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Re: G4 AlBook as a desktop ???

2004-12-13 Thread mray
Larry:
I used first a Pismo with external keyboard, mouse and monitor (20) 
with the Pismo elevated. Then moved to a TiBook same config.

I was advised to leave the lid of the Powerbook open, all the way to 
use the second screen for palettes and toolbars, or at least partially 
(about halfway) to allow the heat to disipate (from the CPU) not the 
monitor. With the lid closed the heat will rise right into the screen. 
Made sense so at least halfway it was.

Regards,
Mark
On Dec 13, 2004, at 6:04 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
I have a G4 AlBook 1GHz and I am getting a 19 monitor
in order to sit correctly, looking straight forward at the
screen instead of 30 degrees downwards.
Is it possible to use the AlBook with an external screen only
and the built in screen closed, obviously with an external
keyboard and mouse ?
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