Re: Lombard snags [signed]
I really wanted it to just work at the OS 9.2. level as my kajillion apps of graphics software match that system...and I can do all I want at that level...i even still use a pencil to draw. As a former Lombard owner I can empathize. It had a serious flaw on wake up and was known as the sleep of death. It would be worth it to send it I own and use a Lombard since 6 years and in my experience, in the pre-OS X days, random freezes and/or crashes were predominantly due to conflicting extensions (third party stuff) and lousy freeware randomly installed. Temporary instabilities also in the sleep/non-slpeep/wake-from-sleep department were also in my case due to the same reason. If you want to tackle your case, you should firstly make sure to the best extent that the basics of the hardware seems ok. That is, as previously suggested, make sure that RAM cards (both), processor daughtercard, hard drive cable, are all properly seated. After that, you have to go through the painstaking process of sorting out extensions and control panels: 1) Boot the Lombard with all extension off (pressing the space-bar? I can't remember...). Run like that, chek for freezes. If not: 2) Use the Extension Manager control panel and select OS 9 only, or something along these lines. Run like that, chek for freezes. If not: 3) Add, one by one (or a few at the time, again from the Extension Manager control panel) additional extensions, taking care of not selecting anything you do not strictly need for your work. Run like that, etc Since this this process will take you some time, I would suggest (if you pass step 1) and possibly 2)), you just back up your data and re-install the OS afresh, after which, make sure you install only the stuff you strictly need for your work. Of course there's also the chance of some hardware fault, but it's advisable you get your software sorted first, unless you have the bits and pieces to check the hardware (like spare RAM, etc...) Lombard with OS 9.2 is a great machine, Finder is way more responsive than my 1 GHz Titanium running Panther and graphics apps work a charm (at least on mine, 333 MHz, 384 MB RAM) cheers, gianfranco -- Geschenkt: 3 Monate GMX ProMail gratis + 3 Ausgaben stern gratis ++ Jetzt anmelden testen ++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail ++ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard snags [signed]
on 17/06/05 07:18, Francesco sciacca at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip!] Lombard with OS 9.2 is a great machine, Finder is way more responsive than my 1 GHz Titanium running Panther and graphics apps work a charm (at least on mine, 333 MHz, 384 MB RAM) There were also cases reported where the Lombard processor was turning bad at some point. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] fish n.: [Adelaide University, Australia] 1. Another metasyntactic variable. See foo. Derived originally from the Monty Python skit in the middle of The Meaning of Life entitled Find the Fish. 2. A pun for `microfiche'. A microfiche file cabinet may be referred to as a `fish tank'. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard snags [signed]
on 6/17/05 6:18 AM, Francesco sciacca at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really wanted it to just work at the OS 9.2. level as my kajillion apps of graphics software match that system. I own and use a Lombard since 6 years and in my experience, in the pre-OS X days, random freezes and/or crashes were predominantly due to conflicting extensions (third party stuff) and lousy freeware randomly installed. Dear cheery, gianfranco, I am in high level talks with my banker, my husband the DELL user, regarding the funds to do the upgrade Michael J. Amato suggested at Daystar...sending it to a tech tho more (pricey for me) ...might be less. Then the techs there can make the daughterboard et al sit down or seat well. I just don't want to get too far down the tech road and find I have left my vintage graphics programs behind. I really liked the OS 8.6 days when I was working (sort of) ..but my digital camera doesn't...so I was finally forced to upgrade to a mere 9.2.2 here in the rustic backfields of Indiana...and the G-Books list is my only line to technology...unless i go into Chicago and I haven't a clue where that would be... On the other hand my AGFA Studio Star scanner, has become con fused and won't rest after trying to calibrate, I guess it has become well...insane. So I am looking to replace that old friend with either: Epson 2580Photo Flatbed Scanner with auto film loader or Canon CanoScan LiDE 500F Color Image Scanner I am well aware of the delicate symbiotic relationships of extensions...and I am thinking what (third party stuff) and lousy freeware randomly installed. have I installed. its not much, as I just replaced the hard drive and loaded just the necessary internet progams, Netscape 7.04 and IE 5.0, Photoshop 4.0, Word 6, Quark 4, my Canon i6000 printer and the Olympus camera...ok BarFly a ABC music notation reader/decoder...but we need that, we play fiddles here on the back porch. In order to seek ones own direction, one must simplify the mechanics of ordinary, everyday life. -Plato preach it Plato! I would suggest (if you pass ...you just back up your data and re-install the OS afresh, ack! and this was summer! Lombard with OS 9.2 is a great machine, so they say Thanks for your advice trying to be cheery Kristina -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard snags [signed]
on 17/06/05 01:55, Michael J. Amato [c] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I aplogize. Is the ban on service manuals infinite ie is there a cutoff point for age of model? I took my Lombard to a local Mac shop and they wouldn't try to repair it saying they can't get parts anymore. Hmmm, Dan never mentioned any cutoff date so I would say the ban is permanent. Sorry, I didn't come up with this! -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] fix n.,v.: What one does when a problem has been reported too many times to be ignored. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard snags [signed]
Lombard with OS 9.2 is a great machine There were also cases reported where the Lombard processor was turning bad at some point. true, the dreaded L2 cache failure, I suppose... That's why I sort of cross my fingers every time something weird happens! (which luckily isn't much often since a long time). So far so good (more finger crossing...) cheers, gianfranco -- Geschenkt: 3 Monate GMX ProMail gratis + 3 Ausgaben stern gratis ++ Jetzt anmelden testen ++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail ++ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard snags [signed]
I am in high level talks with my banker, my husband the DELL user, regarding the funds to do the upgrade Michael J. Amato suggested at Daystar... this looks as an interesting option, although the price is what it is. By all means do a little research before shelling out. Some previous upgrade options from other vendors simply didn't work as hoped and advertised. I'll be keeping an eye on it, in the hope that santa claus would know where to get one for me! cheers, gianfranco -- Geschenkt: 3 Monate GMX ProMail gratis + 3 Ausgaben stern gratis ++ Jetzt anmelden testen ++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/promail ++ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard snags [signed]
And besides, we don't need someone to give us a link, do we? We know how to google, don't we? Well, we figured out how to get the right computer. On 17/06/2005, at 11:07 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 17/06/05 01:55, Michael J. Amato [c] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I aplogize. Is the ban on service manuals infinite ie is there a cutoff point for age of model? I took my Lombard to a local Mac shop and they wouldn't try to repair it saying they can't get parts anymore. Hmmm, Dan never mentioned any cutoff date so I would say the ban is permanent. Sorry, I didn't come up with this! -Laurent. -- == == Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp:// nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] fix n.,v.: What one does when a problem has been reported too many times to be ignored. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard snags [signed]
As a former Lombard owner I can empathize. It had a serious flaw on wake up and was known as the sleep of death. It would be worth it to send it to Daystar - http://daystartechnology.com/ and upgrade. It solves your dvd problem and gives you the altivec engine. Then you'll never have these problems. (I was never able to get Panther on my Lombard -got a kernel panic) I plan on upgrading. There is also a person named Chuck Wright on e.Bay who specializes in Lombards and has scads of parts. I bought a logic board from him and was very satisfied with his handling of the sale. He also turned me on to a website that has the service manual for the Lombard (it's in pdf format) http://www.whoopis.com/computer_repair/PowerBook_G3_Series_Bronze_kbd.pdf Happy sailing, (I really like the old Lomby) BTW, I also remember it being picky about memory ups. = Mike Amato mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Kristina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:50:06 -0500 To: G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: Lombard snags on 6/16/05 2:56 PM, Kristina at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RESTART It looks like it has a serious hardware problem, maybe the hard disk or the memory. Maybe the processor daughtercard or a memory chip has become loose? -- [ SECURITY NOTICE ] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For your security, [EMAIL PROTECTED] digitally signed this message on 17 June 2005 at 01:03:43 UTC. Verify this digital signature at http://www.ciphire.com/verify. --- [ CIPHIRE DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] --- Q2lwaGlyZSBTaWcuAVdnLWJvb2tzQG1haWwubWFjbGF1bmNoLmNvbQBjYW50YWJAY29tY 2FzdC5uZXQAZW1haWwgYm9keQB1BAAAfAB8AQAAAG8hskJ1BAAAegIAAgACAAIAIN 7yqL7+pEtCiMoWjTig3euy8Df3iiIqaGO47uBh28UJAQAJ1di+m9yz7tsr95DjVLmJidz 8xPaUGnOgfDcH5JdIDAopROt6UPzKunPSaJP7fm5N3fiZZSowSA8LBZARwf+GSO2zU2ln RW5k - [ END DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] - -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard snags [signed]
Upgrade? Upgrade to what? I really wanted it to just work at the OS 9.2. level as my kajillion apps of graphics software match that system...and I can do all I want at that level...i even still use a pencil to draw. but I am so glad you sent the service manual site...i don't have one as I bought this Lomby on ebay and have been tinkering it ever since. I did replace the hard drive already. So I am not sure what there is to upgrade...speed? processor? System? Kristina As a former Lombard owner I can empathize. It had a serious flaw on wake up and was known as the sleep of death. It would be worth it to send it to Daystar - http://daystartechnology.com/ and upgrade. It solves your dvd problem and gives you the altivec engine. Then you'll never have these problems. (I was never able to get Panther on my Lombard -got a kernel panic) I plan on upgrading. There is also a person named Chuck Wright on e.Bay who specializes in Lombards and has scads of parts. I bought a logic board from him and was very satisfied with his handling of the sale. He also turned me on to a website that has the service manual for the Lombard (it's in pdf format) http://www.whoopis.com/computer_repair/PowerBook_G3_Series_Bronze_kbd.pdf Happy sailing, (I really like the old Lomby) BTW, I also remember it being picky about memory ups. = Mike Amato -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard snags [signed]
on 16/06/05 21:03, Michael J. Amato [c] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip!] He also turned me on to a website that has the service manual for the Lombard (it's in pdf format) Michael, I know you did this to help out but folks have to remember that it is *STRICTLY* prohibited to post any URL to Apple's service manuals. We certainly don't want to have Apple's legal after Dan, the List Mom because that would mean the end of the G-Books list (and all the other lists, for that matter). I will ignore it this time but posting such URL is supposed to result in a ban. Again, I know you did it to help. If you folks need to post help to disassemble a PowerBook, post the PowerBook FixIt URL instead. -Laurent. List nanny. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] elder days n.: The heroic age of hackerdom (roughly, pre-1980); the era of the PDP-10, TECO, ITS, and the ARPANET. This term has been rather consciously adopted from J. R. R. Tolkien's fantasy epic The Lord of the Rings. Compare Iron Age; see also elvish and Great Worm. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard snags [signed]
I aplogize. Is the ban on service manuals infinite ie is there a cutoff point for age of model? I took my Lombard to a local Mac shop and they wouldn't try to repair it saying they can't get parts anymore. = Mike Amato mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 16/06/05 21:03, Michael J. Amato [c] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip!] He also turned me on to a website that has the service manual for the Lombard (it's in pdf format) Michael, I know you did this to help out but folks have to remember that it is *STRICTLY* prohibited to post any URL to Apple's service manuals. We certainly don't want to have Apple's legal after Dan, the List Mom because that would mean the end of the G-Books list (and all the other lists, for that matter). I will ignore it this time but posting such URL is supposed to result in a ban. Again, I know you did it to help. If you folks need to post help to disassemble a PowerBook, post the PowerBook FixIt URL instead. -Laurent. List nanny. -- [ SECURITY NOTICE ] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For your security, [EMAIL PROTECTED] digitally signed this message on 17 June 2005 at 05:55:21 UTC. Verify this digital signature at http://www.ciphire.com/verify. --- [ CIPHIRE DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] --- Q2lwaGlyZSBTaWcuAVdnLWJvb2tzQG1haWwubWFjbGF1bmNoLmNvbQBjYW50YWJAY29tY 2FzdC5uZXQAZW1haWwgYm9keQByAwAAfAB8AQAAAMllskJyAwAAFAMAAgACAAIAIN 7yqL7+pEtCiMoWjTig3euy8Df3iiIqaGO47uBh28UJAQAJ1di+m9yz7tsr95DjVLmJidz 8xPaUGnOgfDcH5JdIDCXU7wgcn68WQS3xIx4mVWdH7a4+5PavW0kvMjmWGcV//dd+U2ln RW5k - [ END DIGITAL SIGNATURE ] - -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto: Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
