Re: Next Powerbook after Lombard?

[Mary Russell]

I have a lombard 333 running 10.3.7.  Memory is 128 on the bottom and 
256 on the top.
Top was bought at OWC.  It runs fine with no problems.  When trying to 
install updates
to OS10, don't use the combos.  That's the info I got from the apple 
store.  Instead
of 10.2.8 combo, do the 10.2.6 and then the 10.2.8.  I had 10.2.8 
installed on a 4g drive.
I replaced it with a 10g.  No problems with either one.
Mary

Op 29-jan-05 om 15:51 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven:
 

Hi,
I have a Lombard thats driving me crazy.  I really love it but will 
probably
end up getting rid of it because I have struggled way to many hours 
trying to
get OSX on it with no success.  I upgraded the battery, bought two new
"certified mac" chips 256 and 128 from OWC, a new shell, a 10 gig 
drive, etc.  I was
hoping to keep it alive.  I even bought a 2.5 external enclosure and 
installed
10.3 (Panther) on it from another computer and reinstalled it into the
Lombard.  It starts to startup in 10 but then I get a blue screen and 
mouse is
frozen or a kernal panic. Needless to say no success.  Someone 
suggested 10.2 but I
don't have
a copy of that and getting tired of investing $ into it.

Is there away to upgrade the cards inside?  And what would I get?
Or should I get rid of it - and what would be the next step up?  Would 
need
it to handle most graphic programs like adobe, macromedia, office etc 
in the
OSX operating system?
I can't afford a brand new one right now, what would be a step up from 
the
Lombard?

I really love my Lombard and would hate to see it go - wish I could 
find a
way to keep it.
TIA for all your suggestions/answers.
Linda

   

 

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Re: Next Powerbook after Lombard?

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Re: Next Powerbook after Lombard?

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Re: Next Powerbook after Lombard?

[Alan Miller]

On Saturday, January 29, 2005, at 11:26  AM, Dijkwel wrote:
Similar problems over here with our Lombard:
Op 29-jan-05 om 15:51 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven:
I have a Lombard thats driving me crazy.  I really love it but will 
probably
end up getting rid of it because I have struggled way to many hours 
trying to
get OSX on it with no success.
I have both a 400 Mhz Lombard and a 400 Mhz Pismo which my wife uses, 
and we travel with, since it has an airport card. I was able to install 
and have been running OS X.2.8 on both machines for the last year. I 
have had no problem with either.

When I went to install OS X on the pismo (I did it first just to test 
X) I reformatted the drive and reinstalled 9.2.2 and then loaded OS X.2 
on after updating to 9.2.2. With the lombard I just made sure it was 
updated to 9.2.2 and again had no problem doing a fresh install using 
my OS X.2 disc and then using software update to get to OS X.2.8. I 
guess I'm one of the lucky ones since I have no problems with OS X on 
these older laptops.
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Re: Next Powerbook after Lombard?

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On 1/29/05 9:51 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Or should I get rid of it - and what would be the next step up?  Would need
> it to handle most graphic programs like adobe, macromedia, office etc in the
> OSX operating system?
> I can't afford a brand new one right now, what would be a step up from the
> Lombard?
> 
> I really love my Lombard and would hate to see it go - wish I could find a
> way to keep it.

Hi Linda:

There are lots of people on this list who have nursed their PowerBooks and
iBooks through many many years of service and have fixed hardware problems
that I¹d never bother trying to so I¹ll let them advise you there. Don¹t get
me wrong, I admire these guys and when it comes to desktop computers I am
the same. I just tend to view notebooks as (very expensive) disposables and
my work lets me finance them in that fashion. I¹ve owned two G3 based iBooks
and now have a G4 alBook and I use the software you mention so I can give
you a few ideas about what to expect.

The original iBook (clamshell with a 300mHz G3) has enough horsepower to run
OS X 10.3 and the Adobe Creative Suite but there are a few disadvantages.
The two big disads are the screen resolution (800x600) and anemic
video-card. The programs won¹t run fast but I used Photoshop 7, InDesign 2,
and Word X on that computer to put out a monthly full color newsletter for
almost a year. Adobe¹s reliance on screen hogging palettes sometimes made me
scream but even though I had access to desktops with more power and larger
screens the convenience of being able to use the iBook anywhere over-rode
the inconvenience of a slower computer and smaller screen. Speaking of
slower computer, I noticed the speed difference most when booting up the
computer, loading software, and working with large documents. For example, I
once timed my tangerine startup at 4.5 minutes from turning it on to
finishing loading the last start-up application. Thankfully that was
something I didn¹t have to do very often.

I had the opportunity to replace my tangerine with a 600mHz dual USB iBook
and the difference between the two was dramatic. Startup and application
launch times were nearly halved. Everything was peppier - delays that I¹d
never noticed before became apparent - so much so that the beige G3 desktop
I was using at work became nearly intolerable to use. But I think the big
deal was moving from that 800x600 display to the new iBook¹s 1024x768.
Suddenly I could leave a couple palettes on the screen while working in
Photoshop and InDesign. Word¹s text format palette now became really useful.
This had a big impact on my efficiency.

One of the last clamshell iBook models had a 466mHz G3 and I used one for a
couple weeks. It was noticeably faster than my tangerine but the difference
wasn¹t as dramatic as that of the 600mHz dual USB model. For this reason, I
suspect the 500mHz dual USB model wouldn¹t be as good a deal as the 600mHz
model.

Prices on the TiBook are very reasonable at this time but I strongly
recommend against the TiBook for one simple reason: the hinges. The hinge
assembly, more specifically the metal case where the hinge attaches, is
weak. Most of the people I know who have a TiBook that is 2 years or older
have either had to have a hinge (or both) replaced or are now nursing a weak
hinge and putting off the inevitable. The repair is not inexpensive and
since it often requires replacing the bottom case it can be more expensive
the the value of the computer.

The original 12² alBook is also worth mentioning. It shares the dual USB
iBooks form factor but has a G4 processor. There¹s a lot to like about this
computer but when we got one in at work I eagerly put it through its paces
and was disappointed. Its performance was little better than the 800mHz G3
iBook¹s in real world use.

So, this seems to be a very longwinded reply saying take a look at the iBook
with a processor speed of at least 600mHz and as much memory as you can dump
into it.

david




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Re: Next Powerbook after Lombard?

[Dijkwel]

Hi Linda,
Similar problems over here with our Lombard: I was able to install OS 
10.0.3 using the original 64 MB RAM chip the Lombard came with. From 
10.1 up, one needs al least 128 MB but all the RAM upgrades I've 
tested, in various configurations up to and including 512 MB, 
invariable gave me a freeze or kernel panic. So, I would advise you not 
to waste any money on a copy of OS 10.2. Rather, try to locate someone 
with a Lombard who has been able to install Panther, see if you can 
borrow that working RAM chip to install Panther and then swap it for 
the RAM you have (apparently, for installing the Lombard is much 
pickier then for actually running 10.3).

Peter
Op 29-jan-05 om 15:51 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven:
Hi,
I have a Lombard thats driving me crazy.  I really love it but will 
probably
end up getting rid of it because I have struggled way to many hours 
trying to
get OSX on it with no success.  I upgraded the battery, bought two new
"certified mac" chips 256 and 128 from OWC, a new shell, a 10 gig 
drive, etc.  I was
hoping to keep it alive.  I even bought a 2.5 external enclosure and 
installed
10.3 (Panther) on it from another computer and reinstalled it into the
Lombard.  It starts to startup in 10 but then I get a blue screen and 
mouse is
frozen or a kernal panic. Needless to say no success.  Someone 
suggested 10.2 but I
don't have
a copy of that and getting tired of investing $ into it.

Is there away to upgrade the cards inside?  And what would I get?
Or should I get rid of it - and what would be the next step up?  Would 
need
it to handle most graphic programs like adobe, macromedia, office etc 
in the
OSX operating system?
I can't afford a brand new one right now, what would be a step up from 
the
Lombard?

I really love my Lombard and would hate to see it go - wish I could 
find a
way to keep it.
TIA for all your suggestions/answers.
Linda

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Next Powerbook after Lombard?

[Polkadoter]

Hi,
I have a Lombard thats driving me crazy.  I really love it but will probably 
end up getting rid of it because I have struggled way to many hours trying to 
get OSX on it with no success.  I upgraded the battery, bought two new 
"certified mac" chips 256 and 128 from OWC, a new shell, a 10 gig drive, etc.  
I was 
hoping to keep it alive.  I even bought a 2.5 external enclosure and installed 
10.3 (Panther) on it from another computer and reinstalled it into the 
Lombard.  It starts to startup in 10 but then I get a blue screen and mouse is 
frozen or a kernal panic. Needless to say no success.  Someone suggested 10.2 
but I 
don't have
a copy of that and getting tired of investing $ into it.

Is there away to upgrade the cards inside?  And what would I get?  

Or should I get rid of it - and what would be the next step up?  Would need 
it to handle most graphic programs like adobe, macromedia, office etc in the 
OSX operating system?  
I can't afford a brand new one right now, what would be a step up from the 
Lombard?

I really love my Lombard and would hate to see it go - wish I could find a 
way to keep it.
TIA for all your suggestions/answers.
Linda

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